Idaho police say 2 more roommates were home during murders of 4 college students l GMA
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Authorities and a sister of one of the victims confirmed two other female roommates were home at the time of the attack but cannot confirm if they were witnesses to the crime.
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My roommates in college partied a lot and I always locked my door and slept with headphones on. And anyone who doesn't think that a 20 year old kid can sleep until noon on a Sunday morning...is significantly out of touch with early 20 somethings.
Who cares 🤷♂️
So many college students are out late Friday and Saturday nights and sleep
Exactly what I was thinking.
yea, not the safest place or lifestyle
No freakin way they didn’t hear 4 people screaming…bullshit
My 21 and 18 yr old kids can sleep through everything. My son also sleeps with airbuds in. They both sleep in past noon on weekends. I can easily understand how the roommates may not have known what happened.
Exactly! I am almost 40 and work 6 days a week. On my 1 day off I sleep until noon or later sometimes!
If you let the Leah Lipps phenotype suck you up you will become aware or if you let your bitch suck you up like the Leah Lipps phenotype you will become aware
You really should have a talk with him about it because those things can fry his brain. They are emitting radiation and sleeping with them is the worst thing anyone can do
But isn’t it dangerous to encourage such behaviour? To sleep with head phones? What if there is fire in the house any emergency situation and children are so detached from what’s going on. I think frat houses aren’t safe period so much crimes happen because the style of frat house life is just unsafe,. Partying, other kids put head phones on, no one hears anything.
I used to sleep in too until noon or 1. That was in my younger days. They didn't mention anything about airbuds of the 2 other roommates. I am just still shocked that they didn't hear one scream or crying
I actually feel terrible for these roommates. I find it very plausible that they slept through it, got up, and made it out of the house without seeing the victims. When you are a roommate, you don't wake up and check on everyone in the house. If the victims were killed in their bedrooms (maybe while they were sleeping/passed out), why would a roommate have seen them?
It reminds me a little of the Amanda Knox case in that she came home, took a shower, all the while her roommate was dead in another room in the apartment. She said she saw a little blood in the bathroom but just thought it was menstrual blood (what woman hasn't gotten some on the bathroom floor at some point?). The roommates may have seen things that were a little out of the ordinary, and their testimony may be important in cracking the case, but people don't immediately think - my roommates must have been murdered in the other room.
Agree, but TMI on the blood on the floor...
I do believe the roommates said they always lock their bedroom doors. So if they had not locked the door then there would have been two more dead bodies. I agree with what you said they were each in their room asleep when killed and those other two just slept through it. They had been out on the town drinking and did not get back until after 2 am you going to sleep well are you not? Also was said that knew the girl had some guy stalking her? But that could all be here say.
It's just horrible what has happened it really is, here is hoping the monster is caught asap and these young kids can go back to their studies. It will never be the same again this place people will not feel safe even if and when they catch this monster.
@@22ergiewhy is that TMI? Women have monthly periods where they bleed. Makes sense that it can get on the floor once in a while. Men sometimes pee on the floor by accident, is that TMI? Or is it just female menstruation that you feel is too much to talk about? And why? It’s a completely natural process.
Plausible reason but I and thousands others never believed that Knox woman and no one should use her as an example.
@@msg4141 actually i too am the type to lock my bedroom door and if i had housemates who have the habit of coming back from parties in the middle of the night and making noise, i wouldn't suspect anything if i had odd noises here and there. The fact that this coward slaughtered them in their drunken sleep shows there wasn't any screaming happening. If the roommates heard screams, they would have called the police. So either they killed their housemates or they are innocent.
No matter where you live, everyone should have a lock on their bedroom door. Most bedroom doors will not stop an assailant but the noise from the forced entry will wake you up and alert others in the house.
Or the dog would bark
And a peeping hole to see what’s happening before you confront the attacker
There was no forced entry. And what I find concerning - All four of them stabbed to death..... I'm thinking that they brought someone home with them and that person drugged them all into an unconscious state. Otherwise, how can four people get stabbed to death at the same time, without it waking the other roommates?
@@supportvawa2213 or maybe each of them were in their individual rooms and sleeping or passed out from alcohol intoxication in their own rooms.
@@stellagyan6593 that would make sense.....this is a very creepy situation and leaves a lot of questions - Why weren't the other two killed? Was it a specific targeted situation, like a conflict with the ones who were murdered?
Shame on mayor and spokesman who told everyone right away no one is in danger. Wth
You only say that if you definitively know who did it. Someone with a connection to someone influential in the community perhaps? Begs a parallel investigation.
Yes, exactly!
I didnt believe it when they said it
Absolutely……..total ass clowns
@@SB-se7vb the Mayor is guilty then
I would NOT allow my child to continue going to school there until the killer is caught. AINT NO WAY
Unfortunately, this thing can happen at any campus
Yup!! Look what happened with the Gainesville ripper! I bet those patents wish they would've made their kids come home too
@@hp4415 Yes, it can happen but here it DID happen.
Parents don't care about cold statistics.
He is on the loose! Don't be silly.
@@lillaurap This guy is totally a fuckin' ripper. And old man Child diddler
@@susivarga7303 there are huge different between target killing and random killing. The cop still believe it’s target killing. Of course parents are still going to worry but if it’s random killing, it would be much much scarier. Like it would be much different if a guy kill his ex girlfriend and cop haven’t caught him yet, than a guy who just randomly killing people on street.
They were probably asleep. Hungover college students sleep until 12pm anyways.
This is just perplexing. More questions than answers. I cannot imagine how terrifying it must feel for those roommates who were home. You have to wonder if the killer didn’t realize they were there. Why would s/he take a risk of harming the four and leave witnesses around. It just makes no sense. Surely someone somewhere HAD to have seen something. This is the craziest story I have heard. More than likely it is a lover scorned by one of the girls. I just cannot imagine what in the world is going on. May God be with the families.
I'd they were Ugly black chicks no one would care
The same god that let them get brutally murdered lmao
@@twistedbliss58 that was satan
@@twistedbliss58 is God supposed to save them personally
I live only a couple houses away from this apartment. I feel pretty scared knowing a killer probably walked past my front door last weekend.
When our apartment was burgled, nobody touched my room because 1. It was always locked. 2. The door was parallel with the stairs. People often thought it was a door to a coat cupboard or broom cupboard. I also remember more than once, in more than one dorm or apartment, knocking on other people’s doors to ask them to turn the sound down at 4am and they’d make a “wait!” sign, turn the sound down and come back to the door and say in all innocence, “sorry, I couldn’t hear you.” I routinely used earplugs by the end of it. Sometimes I had good roommates who became long term friends, sometimes I barely knew their names or faces. People lead separate lives a lot of the time.
I have a roommate who sleeps so heavy that you can pound on his door and yell his name super loud and he won’t wake up. Everyone is sus of the roommates who were home, but I honestly think they’re lucky to be alive. I could be proven wrong, but I don’t think they had anything to do with it. They’re likely the two other girls who are in the photo with the four who were murdered, which was posted earlier on the day they died. It would be weird if they all took a happy roommates photo and then one or both of the other girls went knife crazy later that same night.
This. I lived in a similar house; loud noises and music at 4am is not unusual. Not seeing roommates for days at a time is not unusual. One thing no one's mentioning is how often I'd wake up in the morning to find a couple weird dudes in the kitchen that my roommates had brought home from the bar for either a hook-up or an after-party.
I would have to have a lock too. Who knows here.
Sounds of 4 people dying it was most likely heard and them not calling the cops
Never think that young drunken college girls walking the streets at night arent being watched out there by men who may have ulterior motives.
I am a super deep sleeper, at least before I had kids, but really it is not surprising to me at all if the other roommates did not hear what was happening if they were asleep. What a horrible thing to wake up to. Hoping they find the killer soon
My daughters good friend I used to have to shake awake, a couple she scared me, I thought something was seriously wrong with her.
And when i had roommates they may have really been passed out from a little too much
Same I'm lost to the world when I'm sleeping have 6 kids and 16 very noisy grandkids I work nights so I'm sleeping when they are awake making all kinds of noise.
Same, I have slept through an earthquake once 😅 stuff was on the ground, I was so confused.and one time my cousin was screaming and crying right in front of me. When I woke, she was like “you didn’t hear me?”
Same. I'm super grateful my husband is like a sentinel, he jumps at the first thing. Meanwhile I am out like a rock, if it were left up to me to hear the alarm we might die in a fire
Honestly, it's not all that strange to maybe not hear something when you take into account this is a college area. Even when I was in college 30 years ago college kids drank and often didn't get up until close to noon on a weekend. I once slept through a fight near my dorm room door because I worked until 1 AM & drank some Nyquil wen I got back & was knocked out. Also, a lot of people sleep with headphones on & even most newer earbuds come with noise cancelation. I think without knowing the details it's irresponsible to even suggest that they could be suspects because there could be a perfectly reasonable reason why they didn't hear anything.
Thanks for the comment. I think I needed to hear this.
It's not irresponsible to suggesting that. Stop trying to outsmart the FBI.
If the two roommates were males you guys would be quick to blame them so stop the BS
They stated the two other roommates made it out the next morning no one calls the cops until noon and reports an "unconscious person". Not saying it's not implausible for someone not to hear but given the details highly unlikely.
@@bewell6019 while they were sleeping
Just hearing this, sounds as if someone that has been in there before and knew them! So sad that someone takes anyone’s life. Praying they find who and for these families
How is this girls sister able to keep compusure and talk normally on national television? Most people would be hysterical. Strong girl she is
Not everyone has hysterics!
I know the sister being so calm that is strange to me but again I know that everybody reacts in different ways still kind of weird because she's talking as if her sisters were strangers to her maybe she's still in shock don't know but so sad what happened goes to show you you're not safe anywhere.
Pretty sure she means sorority sisters
I couldn't talk for years,the sister talks like nothing happened
Some people are just are able to stay calm in a crisis by nature. I've been through 4 different crisis situations where I was the calmest, most logical person. Even when I was the one who should have been the most frantic, I was actually the most calm out of everyone. Being calm helps you think your way into solving your crisis.
Anyone who has been to university and shared a house or apartment knows that it's very possible to sleep through a party and even leave in the morning without checking in on your roommates especially if you know that they were partying the night before. It's not strange at all! RIP to the victims and my heart goes out to the room mates
They're not resting... they're DEAD. And it doesn't get any more peaceful than that.
Those sluts are dead
Yeah when the FBI thinks the roommates know more says everything
Time to polygraph
@@cathie1234 polygraphs arent accurate i could be innocent and brought in for one, id be nervous sweating and have a high heart rate because of the mere accusation and trauma from the incident and it would say i was lying
More so.. they are easily passable if you know how.
@@5thgearpinned450 polygraphs are quite beneficial- utilized for suppressed knowledge of a witness - increased investigative accuracy.
Yes
There's way more to this story! This a very personal killing.
One more thing, the fact that the killer or killers did not check the rooms in the house means they were not looking to rob otherwise they would have found the 2 other students that were allegedly sleeping. This 100% proves that this attack was personal and targeted!
I kind of think these 4 may have been targeted as why didn't the person kill everyone in the house? Why would they leave 2 roommates alive?
I feel it was a woman too, not a guy. Women tend to on average be more calculating in crimes like this as well as commit from an emotion fueled reason. If I had to guess probably just a girl that was jealous of them or made they weren’t in a sorority etc.
I think too it was targeted too.
@@Wishfull171 so men are not emotional when they kill?? Make it make sense.
Calm your tits, Inspector Gadget.
This is really horrific they didn't deserve this. Usually a stabbing is something personal, this person had something against them and wanted them gone
So you saying they head a gun with a silencer but they used a knife because it is personal.
I know everyone finds it so hard to believe no one would hear anything, but I literally have been thru it so many times with my girls about their ear buds! They even wanna sleep with them in and I'm like what if there's an emergency and I'm screaming for you, I scare the hell out of them all the time "sneaking up" on them, like no lol... I do believe possibly the roommates brought someone with them, who knows... But also Stephanie Crow was murdered in her home and they blamed the brother and were so wrong... Reminds me a bit of that case.. Hope they get the pos quickly.
Several years ago, my neighbor’s daughter shared an off-campus townhouse with three of her friends. She had the ground-floor bedroom, while the other three roommates had the three upstairs bedrooms. While they all were out one evening, the townhouse was entered by an intruder who had climbed a tree and crawled through an open second-story window. Laptops and other electronics were stolen. Fast forward about four months…..while my neighbor’s daughter and another roommate were asleep in their respective bedrooms, the townhouse was entered yet again through the same window, left open by one of the two roommates who were on the town that night. This time, he encountered the girl asleep in the upstairs bedroom. While brutally raping the young woman, he bragged about having robbed the place on an earlier ‘visit’, and decided this visit he’d toss in an extra “you should have known to secure your home” lesson. She didn’t scream out to my neighbor’s daughter, as she had a knife to her throat and was scared that he’d finish with her and rape her friend downstairs. He robbed them again, and escaped the same way he entered. My neighbor’s daughter had slept through the entire incident because she’d fallen asleep wearing her ear buds. The roommate was bruised, bloody, beaten, missing a tooth. She spent two days hospitalized as her parents drove hundreds of miles to be with her, pack up her belongings, and return home. She stepped away from college for a full year as she went through physical healing and support therapy. She finished her final year at a college near her hometown and transferred those credits to the university she’d been attending at the time of the incident, as she couldn’t emotionally step foot in that community without having panic attacks. The sad thing about this whole incident is that the roommate who had left the window open tried to blame the other girls for not checking that all doors and windows (including the one she’d left open in her private bedroom) were closed and locked prior to going to bed.
@Ashley Haynes well not mine I wake them up lol no sleeping until 2 for mine but they're 18 & 14, my 18 year old does get to sleep if her work and school schedule dictates it that's just us personally.. But I'm just saying there could be several reasons.. I've been around drunk and high people and they knock concretely out.. Husband slept thro a tornado in a trailer park when he was a teen.. I was just saying people would be surprised. I've slapped a spider off his face while he was sleeping when we were camping and he just grunted and rolled over lol
@@probablynot1368 o wow that's terrible. As an "overcomer" I wish her peace and healing ✌best wishes
You're just speculating about how hard someone sleeps, YOU DON"T KNOW!
The fact that 2 people were in that house during the murders and several hours after the murders should be seen for what it is.SUSPICIOUS! not a smoking gun but suspicious.
Since they were there, agents need to aggressively investigate the possibility that the 2 roommates murdered the victims. 8 hours is plenty of time to destroy evidence they need to look into that. Simple as that.
FYI I'm super young and I love sleeping till noon and if I'm hungover I'm definitely sleeping past that stop thinking from y'all's dumbass perspective a lot of us don't have a lot of responsibility or kids so we will sleep as long as our bodies will permit us plus women actually need 3 hours more sleep than men do some Google research and grow up everybody's different
Praying for all the families of everyone involved 🙏 And praying they find answers they all need.
And there were no signs of forced entry, very suspicious 🤨.
Yeah. Somebody brought home the guest(s). Meanwhile the two others rolled home and didn’t notice - music or TV still blaring, no reason to go into that room. Went to bed and up at noon, typical students. A food dozen of the roommates I had over the years could have been killed at 2 in the morning and I wouldn’t notice till 6pm next day. Or later if they hadn’t been killed in the living room.
They said key coded entry system, that it may have been a party house, and entry code may have been given out freely.
Not really. Old keys past tenants. Keys taken from pocket and copied. So many ways to get in.
Partied, slept in. Not enough info yet.
@@audreydaleski1067 The lock on the door was a key pad and, evidently, the code to open the door was given to their friends and other people.
Maybe the police are saying it was targetted because a lot of people knew the key pad combo and there was no forced entry so to the police it was someone they knew. I bet it's someone that would be least expected by other friends if this is the case.
It seems at the least to be somebody that either knew the key code to the house or was let in by one of the residents of the house.
I mean kids are kids but it’s so dumb to give out your keypad info. It might’ve been an ex but I wouldn’t even tell just a boyfriend the code lol
To the family of the people of the deceased, sincere condolences,
There's so much not being said- prayers to the families.
My wife doesn't like the idea of the timeline, saying potentially murdered in their sleep, but 2 of them took an Uber an hour or so 45 minutes before what is guessed to be the time of death.
Maybe it's due to the practice of police work , it's not smart to release ALL they know , so theres that.
Yeah bc they’re not stupid and don’t want to give away crucial evidence ???? Wtf is y’all’s problem
Suspect already in the house?
@@doneown503 Yes, the police might have intentionally pretended to not know anything, so that the suspect would be lulled into a sense of security and later did something that the police could then used as confirmation of their initial hunch.
This is just getting stranger and stranger. SIX PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE but two somehow escape being attacked at 4 a.m. but a call to 911 doesn't come in until noon. WTF?
Def getting stranger. Was it announced they escaped or did they just wake up late ?
The two other roommates evidently slept through the murders. They most likely slept in, being it was the weekend and they didn't bother their roommates until it started to get late in the day, and they began wondering why their roommates hadn't gotten up yet. When they finally went and checked on their roommates they found them dead and called 911. Either it was a targeted murder or the murderer(s) didn't realize there were 2 other people in the house asleep.
I would say slept through bc it’s. A knife not a gun which may be loud but they’d have to be killed while asleep and not able to make a sound? Insane
@@shh5627 no one screamed bloody murder? We’re they all stabbed in the throat? Just insane
Nothing strange. Maybe they weren't the targets. Stabbing could mean throats were slit...no noise.
Why would they say no imminent threat and leave it that way for several days after?? That’s dangerous!!! I understand there’s an ongoing investigation but innocent ppls lives should be priority #1 in a case such as this where u don’t know who did it??
Exactly, they are not equipped to handle something like this. It’s been 8 years since they had a homicide in that area.
I believe they know the suspect but they want more evidence. They were confident that there is no serial killer.
I'm thinking the killer later off'd himself and they are just waiting to see if the suicide victim's DNA is at the scene to confirm it was them. They also may have arrested someone and are holding them under some other pretense (invalid license plates etc) until they can confirm they are connected to the crime. I can't think of any other reason why or how they could say this person is not a threat after saying they are still out there....they are either idiots or lying to build a case.
They pay “cops “ in these town peanuts. So you get monkeys.
They would say they bc it’s so OVER the top a crime of passion, it’s personal , times 4 - they may not know a lot, but they can know enough to know it wasn’t a shooting ,’something like a spree killing ,‘there are types of crimes,‘and this one, even though so many questions right now, a few things, to law enforcement,’ are super clear.
This is so sad. I’m literally crying. My daughter and nephew are in college I couldn’t imagine this is my worst nightmare. RIP angels.
That was a targeted crime someone wanted those 4 people dead jealous I guarantee because that’s the only reason those other two people survive because they wasn’t included in being targeted believe me the police will find out and I hate too say it they really doing a private research on the too that Slept through the whole thing it’s only there job
Oh, come on. Crying?
you may want to log off the internet for awhile, protect your energy
@@samueljohnson2270 I suggest you look up all the spellings and their meanings for, too, to, and two. And while you're at it, also look up the correct use of pronouns and verbs, because, "they wasn't" is wrong.
@@judithrandall4690 awe you’re a little ray of sunshine aren’t you? Why don’t you leave people you don’t know alone on?
RIP to the four students. May their soul rest in peace
This has the makings of Scream 6
My family is close friends with one of the victims family. I am about 8 years older than the victim, but I always remember seeing Christmas photos of them over the years and seeing them at functions around town once in awhile. They led a pretty perfect life that was on a trajectory to just get better. I am so sad that this is how their life ended up. Super super strange to see a name I’ve always known be thrust all over the news like this. This is tragic.
Sorry for your loss. Know anything about these two roommates? Jealous of that perfect existence their roommate had perhaps?
@@richardtaylor6341 problably slept with someone or cheated
@@richardtaylor6341 I doubt that the roommates killed them. This was quite brutal and it takes considerable strength to stab someone, especially a male.
@@shantelane2553 I'm not saying they did, but they know who did...and women could pull this off, especially if victims are sleeping. You dont have to have strength to stab someone, just hate
@@richardtaylor6341 I think we just have to wait till all the facts come out. It's good the police haven't had any leaks and they're keeping a lot to their sleeve.
Normally I would be like.."they did it." But something in my gut is saying I don't think it's them. I could be wrong.
What I don’t understand is the 4, two each were sleeping side by side, the two best friends and the couple. How did the other person not wake up and hear the person next to them being stabbed? How does one person stab two people side by side without the other person waking up and start screaming and or fighting back? And how did the two roommates that survived not hear any of this commotion going on? It just doesn’t make sense.
Your questions are on point. I thought the same thing regarding the time of stabbing on two people the same time. Unless the murderer used the chloroform to knock them two out first prior to stabbing. I’m not sure if the chloroform would be detected during the autopsy though.
This story just gets more and more tragic. I had to pray for the families of these kids. You can clearly tell these are good kids who were loved and well raised ❤❤
I'm curious, how can you tell?
Right ...
I live only a couple houses down from this apartment and have so for over 5 years. I've never seen any of them once to my recollection. How do you know anything about them?
White lives splatter
We don't know if they were good kids or not! Looks can be deceiving! I still send prayers to the family and friends!
None of the math is mathing in this situation. RIP to all the victims & sending prayers , love and light to their families.
I have worked extensively in the legal field and taken private investigation courses. This whole thing doesn't add up and getting fishier by the day. Why did the killer ignore the other 2 girls in the house and let them live if they were home during this time? Why pick out only these 4 people? How could the other 2 girls not hear 4 people being stabbed to death in the middle of the night? Why did they wait until almost 12 noon to report the crime when it happened between 3-4 in the morning? Were any of the girls sexually assaulted during this attack? Hopefully, one of the 4 murdered tried to fight off the attacker and may have the killer's DNA underneath their fingernails, etc. I think those 2 other roommates know who did this crime and must have let them in. As sick as it sounds, they may have sat on reporting the attack allowing enough time for the victims to bleed out and die. I used to live in Idaho, and I witnessed in a hotel I was staying at where a group of people attacked a guy in a room breaking out the window and giving him a concussion in a coordinated attack. I saw them running down the walkway after it happened when I looked outside hearing the glass break. Due to witnessing that, I'm beginning to believe this is an orchestrated attack too due to my personal experience.
The two roommates were drunk and woke up with four people murdered in the house.
sure
May they Rest In Peace. I send my condolences to their families and hope justice will be brought 🙏
I live near where the 3 young women lived. Everything I've read shows all four were exceptional young people. What a loss to their families and really to the rest of us!
I am just stunned that someone was there.
So the roommates didn’t hear someone yelling? Something does not sound right. 😢 poor babies died so young
My teenage son slept through a tornado that ripped part of our roof off. Kids can do that.
We dont know if they were screaming, or even awake when they were murdered. For al we know they could have been stabbed in their sleep. Also, when I was a teen/of college age, I could sleep through Hiroshima ior an earthquake. My mum used to vacuum the house and vacuum right in front of my closed door for ages to get me up if I had overslept, and it would never work. Plus, with it being a college "party house", I'd assume most of them would sleep with earbuds in.
Omg yes! I remember when I was a teenager going on a road trip with my family
I ended up falling asleep and when I woke up everyone was freaking out because apparently we got in a car accident earlier that day and they explained how they had to hold my body down during the crash because I was bouncing all over the place and how the cops arrived etc !! I don’t even remember feeling or hearing anything tbh and if they didn’t tell me we crashed I probably would’ve never even known that even happened.
If the other two roommates that were home during the murders were black, they would have already been arrested.
This is soo heartbreaking, prayers for the families involved
If the murders occurred at 4am and 2 more roommates were in the home, why were the Police not notified until noon ???
It's not that strange, FBI dude... It's a college town and there are reports saying the neighbors said the house was a "party house" with activity at all hours of the day or night. They could have just thought it was someone playing around. They could have been passed out in a part of the house that the killer didn't know they were in at the time. There's many different options here that it could have been. Doesn't mean they know anything.
Highly implausible. No killer is going to go to separate rooms and kill 4 people, then just magically miss the other rooms. It’s not like the other two were sleeping in a closet together. Not to mention the back door was open, and they reported it as a unconscious person, not 4 bloody stabbings. Lot of things aren’t adding up
@@johncena-hq1ti how do we know they weren't killed in the living room still partying? The 2 roommates could have been passed out drunk or could have slept with earbuds in. And it's SUPER common for college kids to sleep til noon on weekends!
@@johncena-hq1ti They announced today that the two roommates were home at the time of the murders, but they didn't hear screams. They thought partying was going on so they locked their doors and went to bed. They probably had some kind of noise-canceling headphones on. They also said the 911 call didn't come from the two survivors. Most likely the police woke them up as they were clearing the house.
Another thing that was said was the bodies were found on the 2nd and 3rd floors in their beds. That the killer went past the two roommates' rooms... most likely because the doors were locked and he/she was in a hurry. Another thing that was talked about today was the fact that one of the girls (I believe it was Kaylee) had complained about a stalker several weeks before this happened. So, with this new information, as you can see my theory is plausible.
Call came from roommates phone. They also called over other friends to the house before calling 911. And on the 911 call they only report someone as unconscious not bleeding all over the place
The two other female roommates that were untouched are the key to solving this
Hey 👋
Cops need to investigate their rooms too! I wouldn't trust anyone
@@miatara6078 Hello I think I follow you on TikTok?
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Maybe not, if they were out cold drunk from partying which I suspect they may not have heard anything
College students/ young adults will sleep all day, especially after a night out.
Strange how little coverage this is getting.
Yeah I totally understand if they didn't hear anything, my roommates were completely strangers and came and went whenever and also I used to do stupid things and sleep for hours after so it would make sense if no one called until noon. I also used to stay up for hours doing homework with sound avoiding earbuds and I wouldn't even know if someone came in. College students are just free with a lot of things.
I think the two that lived were passed out blacked out drunk in a back room or something.....
Nah, they were either already asleep with there doors locked or they knew the killer
@@WhatTheHeck1290 yeah.. passed out would constitute as asleep
@@youtubehashandlesnow I think us both can use some sleep 😴
@@WhatTheHeck1290 t-together? 😳
@@youtubehashandlesnow WUT?
I promise you if that was a house full of six black people the two that survived would be in jail but now guaranteed
How can the two survivors NOT be suspects when they were present during and several hours after the murders?
I watched a video from another news channel and when they interviewed a detective, he said at the present time, everyone is a suspect, including the 2 roommates who survived. The detective did go on to say the 2 surviving roommates are fully cooperating with the police.
Ditto
The suspects didn’t even report it until 72 hours later
They were probably fighting for their lives. They must’ve been stabbed¿
@@MsLatrice2 it wasn’t 72 hours it was the afternoon of the murder
They’re college students , on a weekend .. all prob sound asleep hungover , & woke up @ noon . The stabbing happened @ 4am , I’m not surprised they slept thru it.. weee talking bout college students who party here …
roommates are apart of it !!!! idc what y'all think how would those two not get hurt at all??!!??
They knew the killer! Shake the snakes in your circle! Rest In Peace
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@@commiesnzombies what makes you say that?
The sister is so strong to be able to talk about her sister. Rest In Peace Angels ❤️
I found weird...maybe she still in shock, if it is not the case must be investigated.
Yeah very weird her sister talking about what roses they would have at their funeral what is she talking about I think it’s somebody than you or just met at the bar I’m surprised there’s no DNA found or foot prints from all the blood that was there this is just so sad
Angels x
I found it to be pretty strange how the sister was too calm maybe she is in shock still that could be the case everybody reacts differently to tragedy but she's talking about those two sisters as if they were strangers I find that a little odd but then again who knows maybe she's in shock I just know if it were me I would be sobbing I wouldn't be able to talk I'd be a mess.
@@carolsanders3979 It's not odd. Some people are just more calm and logical than others. Being able to stay calm and logical during crisis helped me in 4 different crisis situations. It's similar to the passengers of Fligh93 who were able to devise a plan to stop the terrorists. Some people are just able to stay level-headed and calm and still think straight even during a crisis.
This is bizarre , and it’s seems that the four of them knew something or got caught up in something. Now that two others were there as well without being touched…something was up.
Very strange story. I know a lot of people can sleep through anything but how did so many people in one home sleep through 4 people being killed? I'm really eager to see how this case turns out.
Who made the call and how/why would they claim 1 of the victims was "unconscious" when there was "blood everywhere and the victims were all clearly dead " according to the coroner ?
I wondered that too. Can't say yet though.
@@bewell6019 I imagine if a person is stab to death the person is also covered in blood and not just on the floor or carpet.
@@bewell6019 that's feasible. The only thing I can imagine is that all of their doors were shut if they slept separately or together. Eight hours is just such a long time not to be aware that there are four dead people in your house.
@@bewell6019 mailman didn’t report it though. The other two girls did. They definitely would have seen blood everywhere
This some Scream type stuff here....
My condolences to the family that lost their loved one..
this is out of a friday the 13th movie. a real life jason
This points to the roommates being involved,
If they were not involved they would have been killed also as potential witnesses.
That's the part that gets me. It's a small town and it's the party house. Wouldn't the killer KNOW who lived there. Why would he just ignore potential witnesses? Unless they are super duper dumb or they never seen any type of crime show in their ENTIRE LIFE. Shit don't make sense
In what world are we living. Gosh my heart breaks for them.
Biden’s America
@@rusty1491 Crimes like this happen in our country constantly. This is not a rep or dem, but an our issue. As long as there will be people thinking politics above all else, I guess we will be stuck in a broken world. 😢
That feeling when you are listening to the news and it ends abruptly.
I live in an adjoining state to Idaho. Over and over from one small Idaho town to another their police show themselves to be incompetent.
Yeah, I live in the state of Washington. Very incompetent. With a Governor that is a complete moron, and former mayor who allowed blocks to be taken over in which two young black men were killed. She called it the "summer of love," as many of us were living in fear of being attacked on Capital Hill. Remember, leadership starts at the top. I grew up in Idaho, and I'd take their leadership over this pathetic state in a heartbeat.
Now THAT wouldn't surprise me.
Explain it again, how 2 other ADULT individuals SURVIVED, AND DIDN'T CALL THE POLICE?! And, if I hear that lame excuse "I was scared", NO THEY WEREN'T. They were in on it. Or, they know who killed their 4 adult roommates. WHOEVER THESE 2 ARE THEY KNOW MORE THAN THEY ARE TELLING. IF THE COPS LET THEM GO....THEY MESSED UP. They are not children. Or minors. ADULTS. GRILL THEM.
@Edwin THEY SLEPT THROUGH 4 PEOPLE BEING STABBED TO DEATH? REALLY? I something nick, or cut myself chopping, slicing vegetables or meat....that is always so painful, that when I scream from a tiny cut, slice, puncture the whole house runs into the kitchen, wondering what happened to mommy. Why is she screaming. So, unless these 2 took some good drugs/sleeping pills, I highly doubt they DIDN'T HEAR 4 PEOPLE GETTING BUTCHERED. And, "I was scared", doesn't cut it at 20, 21 years old. You're not a child. Even 4, 5 year olds know to call 911 in an emergency. The 2 remaining KNOW. SAW. HEARD.
King and Queen st are party city at uidaho. There is loud music playing on the block those kids were murdered. Depending on the party you can’t hear a scream or tell if it was a deadly scream. The roommates could have been black out drunk and woke up to their friends murdered. Not making excuses but some reasons as to why no one reported it until way later.
I went to Uidaho from 2014-2020 and been to all the places those kids were. Really tragic and hope PD gets their stuff together to protect the community.
you’re projecting a lot in this post, it’s a 6 bed room house, the house is huge, they were deadass asleep, ur weird.
@@manuelamootsy6871 You’re very naive. You need intact lungs, spinal cord and windpipe to scream. And if a gun was not used, that doesn’t mean nobody had one. And all four may not have been alive in the same room at the same time. Some may have been attacked in their sleep. The attacker may not have known the layout of the house or that there were another two present. Even the four deceased may not have realised the two were home.
It happens more often than you think that people who live in separate rooms use earplugs, its a known 'party house' so Im sure there are girls who live there that don't participate in those activities that keep to themselves. Maybe the two who were there were on a different floor or another 'wing' of the house. In a house with so many people maybe even if you hear a 'scream'? or some scuffling it might just be nothing or you make an excuse for it in your mind. I don't think the normal person would hear some yelling, or some loud bump sounds or whatever and assume someone was being murdrded in the next room. (if anything was heard at all) Remember, knives are silent and if these young adults were already drunk AND asleep (It was 2-4am on a saturday night) I don't want to be overly graphic but imagine if someone came up and just slit y our throat while you were sleeping. Theres going to be no way you can call for help or get help for yourself even.. Ill stop there but you get what Im saying right
Well , In a small town community a crime is more difficult to solve . For example ; A girl got drowned in a lake in truckee california ; i havent herd anything more about it , may the case vanished.
2 other girls in the house and nether one of them contacted Law Enforcement regarding what happened. Pretty suspicious, guarantee these 2 other girls are involved.
Is that policeman a ghoul or what? They need a spokesman who isn't smiling as if he's amused. OMG.
This is really sad and terrifying seeing as my niece is about to go to College out of state does anybody think it's odd that the sister just doesn't seem upset maybe she's in shock I don't know anyway I pray for their families
You asking as for her to be a sus, or just asking for other isue?
@@lionr1470 Now I don't think she's suspicious I just think it's kind of odd but she might just be headstrong trying to figure out what happened so she's not letting her self get upset at the moment
@@lionr1470 If that was my sister I would be completely inconsolable there was absolutely no way I would be able to just sit there and keep a straight face and not showing any emotion at all it's just mind blowing to me how different people are
@@handleher i get you sis, but as Bruce Lee said "under the havens under the sky ther is but one family it just so happens that people are different" peace
I can understand how the roommates wouldn't have heard much, if they were wearing headphones (which you shouldn't ever wear while sleeping btw) but ... four people bleeding out and dying upstairs? The bodies sitting all night? You're going to smell that. I don't understand how they slept through a quadruple homicide and didn't notice any smell or anything for 12 hours. It's suspicious as hell.
The shanquilla Robinson story now this smh I hope they find out what happened this is so sad on so many levels
That sister seems remarkably calm and collected considering her sister along with 3 others were just brutally murdered...
The sister seems calm and collected but all the comments say its very possible that the roommates slept through four murders.... BRUTAL murders
this feels like The Gainsville murders all over again
True .. and a little bit like the Italy Amanda Knox case
Or the Manson case, where the caretaker was there and heard nothing.
I was just thinking about Gainesville. Terrifying. I hope nobody else is killed.
@@marycoleman6963 yeah my fear is that we’ll hear about another murder, really hope that isn’t the case, reminds me a lot of Scream considering the weapon of choice.
So tragic and sad :( I hope they find the killer and bring him or her to justice.
I am a Moscow resident. I have a strong suspicion that the strangeness surrounding this case is a result of the University working with the city to cover this up to preserve their image. They tried to hide the reality about the brutality of the scene initially, with the whole thing about the police being notified about an ‘unconscious’ person.
If the press hadn’t been on the ball with their inquiries, there’d be even less information than there is now. Fry shut down the questions quick at the press conference, and Scott Green came off like a sociopath putting on a thinly veiled act. The real case here isn’t the murders, it’s what is going on behind the scenes with the city and university.
I agree
Trying to protect the image of the school has most likely damaged this case. So heartbreaking for the families.
On Monday they stated that the "community was safe" and then changed their minds today. Again, trying to protect the image of the school. Luckily this has hit the national spotlight.
Please stop with the excuses of drinking and earmuffs. These other roommates know something. They probably were jealous. They saw these girls who were pretty, enjoying life and couldn't take it anymore. Jealousy can lead to killing if you all don't know...
This is strange… you’re telling me those girls didn’t hear 4 people being stabbed to death? That’s hard to believe. Hope they find whoever did this, it’s so horrific and sad.
Sounds like there's a possibility they were stabbed in their sleep .. talk about nightmare fuel ..
I can't understand also how 2 other unharmed students didn't report anything. Strange
How about that school stabbing in that Thai Preschool earlier this year, one little girl was asleep under her blankets in the room where all her classmates were stabbed to death. When people went in to recover the scene they found her sleeping and took her out in a manner that she wouldn't see the carnage around her. She slept through the whole thing
It could be they had ear plugs in and were asleep in their beds.
I find it very odd that the two other roommates didn’t call the cops until noon and when they did they said the victims were unconscious. I can’t believe they didn’t see all the blood everywhere. Who knows maybe the news just reported that part of the story wrong.
The old guy is apparently stymied by the idea that college kids partying until 4am might not call 911 until noon. hahaha. I turn 67 today but I'm not so old I don't remember partying like that. Sometimes I wouldn't have woke up if a hand grenade had gone off in the living room of my apartment. Then there is the earbuds that all my kids wear and wore that have already been mentioned here by others. Stop commenting on stuff when you don't have enough information to make an educated guess.
The roommates still alive are described as being quieter than the ones that were murdered and settled down at 10pm most nights. They likely would do homework, lock their doors, and go to sleep early while the others may have had friends going in and out a lot. I can imagine them sleeping through it.
If those 2 were dating and likely sharing a bedroom, I would wonder how one person attacked 2 people in the same room at the same time. One would probably be awakened and try to fight.
That's true, and then go on to attack another two without being detected. Or vice versa
2 of the girls murdered seem to be more wild. They acted carefree and didn’t pay attention to their surroundings. I would never have drank at that age. Some kids are spoiled and party with no for thought to danger. I had to work and I knew better than to drink or party. I feared God so many young folks don’t know Jesus and it shows.
WHY didn't She or They SAY murdered,when made Call?? Guilty!!! Of Something Like A bloodbath murders, Would HAVE reported Exactly that!! Hiding Something,and law is JUST playing the Public,to STOP panic!!
YES, Exactly!! Other roomates must have had dangerous company Over,that are all involved somewhat! Were They drugged first,with undetectible substance? WHY,report unconsious?? Outright lie,or farfetched truth??? There is reason For Suspect, Right There,With statement Such as that??
My prayers to the family and friends of the victims! This is a truly sad and heartbreaking situation for anyone to go through!
They need to investigate the roommate's dorm rooms ASAP!! Like wth? !!! Just because they say they didn't hear anything dosen't mean anything! They are still part of the crime!
I'm sure the forensic team examined the ENTIRE house
How many people were stabbing these girls?? One person definitely couldn't have had the chance to stab 4 GIRLS to death. The screams alone should have woken anyone up!! ..even 2 people couldn't unless they were all trying to fight back and getting stabbed while fighting. But the sounds of multiple people scuffles should have alerted the other roommates. UNLESS they heard everything and were afraid to come out!
The Moscow Idaho police department is in a competition with the Uvalde Texas police department for the worst police department in America !
Yup. But so far Uvalde has them all beat. I am a Texan. My state has some of the worst LEO'S in history. Texas is the Third Circle of Hell.
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How did this person manage to stab four people? were they caught completely off guard????
That’s my biggest question! You can’t stab 4 people at once easily. While attacking one, the others should have been able to react. At least, that’s how I envision a knife attacker against four young adults. Idk, it’s a really weird story. I hope justice comes soon.
Life with Draco-It sounds like it was more than one person…
@@Mimi-M yeah
I think it's likely they were inebriated from drinking. Perhaps even passed out. Maybe it was more than just alcohol as well? All Possible.
I just hope this case is solved soon and completely. No questions left unanswered. Who the killer or perhaps killers are, and what was the motivation.
Apparently they were all asleep, is what the police press release says today. Still shocking.
I hope they are questioning the two roommates that were unharmed. It's very suspicious that they were not harmed and that they waited hours and hours before calling the police.
Agreed
blame the Scream franchise
Yep something off
@@azul-t6m ok so why they waited so long to call the cops????
@@azul-t6m also why they not dead but everyone else is dead
A sister of the victims said her sister did right to avoid this another say's it was a party house who many had easy code access.
Not odd at all that the other roommates may not have heard or seen. Anyone who has ever lived with multiple roommates or multigenerational family learns to tune out noise and mind their own business to some degree.
They are college students and were probably sleeping until the afternoon. I cannot imagine the trauma involved in losing 4 peers to such a horrible death. The murderer may not have even checked the rooms.
I honestly can't not believe that room mates did not hear a thing. I would suspect the other two room mates in all honesty I'm sorry but I truly think something happened like an argument or something.
Highly unlikely the other two roommates did not hear four people being stabbed to death in that apartment. The fact they waited until noon to call and reported it as an "unconscious individual" indicates they definitely know more.
Can't assume, they could have been drunk or wearing earphones.
Were you ever around college kids? They likely were out stone cold drunk and heard nothing and woke up around noon.
The thing that gives me pause is one of the responders said this was something she had never seen before. I'm thinking bloodbath. Why would the caller not be hysterical and report it as a violent attack?? "Unconscious individual" is questionably inaccurate to describe the scene.
Ok, Mr. Know-it-all, have you ever had a teenager sleep through an alarm? Ever see a college kid with ear buds in and try to talk to them? You have no clue.
1:44 they confirm they "made it out the next morning" but then didn't call 911 until noon. Not saying it's not implausible to not hear but two facts we know they didn't initially come forward and stated that they were home at the time of the murders and that they didn't call 911 until noon and reported an "unconscious person" I guess they didn't see the blood on the victim. I find it highly unlikely that they just slept through four people screaming as their being stabbed to death.
My heart breaks for the families. Such a shock one could never ever imagine would happen to your family.
This is very suspicious!!!!
They will solve this. It is usually an angry ex-boyfriend. It could simply be mistaken identity from the new people living in the house. It could be as simply as some freak thought they was "rude" to him and he followed them home.
04:08 Young people sleep heavy and this is a big house. I can see the other two in the house sleeping through this. They could have been under alcohol or sleeping pills or just running a box fan for white noise.
Maybe it's the two other people's friend/s. They were trying to cover it up, chickened out or realized they can't.
If you’re in a very deep sleep in the early morning and someone comes in and stabs you repeatedly, by the time you try to come out of it, it would be too late. Most teenagers are heavy sleepers especially if they consumed alcohol beforehand. I hope no one left the door unlocked.
The sister is strange.
If i go out drinking and don't come in until after 2:00 am, most of the time I'm not waking up until after 12:00 noon. If they were drunk, it is possible. My daughter use to sleep with her baby's bassinet on the side of her, screaming at the top of his lungs. I would hear him across the house and have to get up and wake her up. She wouldn't hear him and she was sober. Some people sleep hard. They showed pictures of the house and it's pretty big, 6 bedrooms and 3 baths. I wish they would show the layout and at least show what room they were in or where each one was found. It would help people understand a little better.
I get that this is an ongoing investigation and sometimes the police have to keep things quiet to not compromise the investigation, but they are certainly playing things extremely close to the chest to the point that their lack of sharing information is scaring people in the community. When you don't have any information about the murder other than 4 people are dead and the 2 people who escaped don't seem to be suspects and the police are saying they don't have a suspect, if I lived in the area my next question is how am I supposed to trust the police when they say there is no current active threat to the community? If they believe they know who the suspect is that is completely different because they might have a clue as to the potential motive. If they suspected it was a murder-suicide situation or that one of the other two roommates were responsible that is also another thing. I just can't figure out why the police seem so confident that there is no threat, and my first thought is are they just saying that because they don't want mass hysteria and not because they have any actual evidence that there is no threat? My guess is at this point that their evidence that it wasn't a murder-suicide situation is pretty solid. My guess is that although we are confused why the other two roommates didn't call the police sooner they must have given a satisfactory answer to that question to the police. Maybe they knew the crime was happening and were too busy fleeing for their lives to stop and call the police. Maybe as young and relatively naïve students they were threatened by the perpetrator that if they called the police he would kill their families, so they ran and didn't dare call the police because they believed the threat. Whatever the explanation is, I'm sure the police aren't so stupid that they haven't thought about the fact that it is weird that it took so long for them to be called, so I'm sure if they have really eliminated them as suspects they have solid reasons for doing so. Or they haven't eliminated them as suspects but are pretending they have in the hopes that they'll slip up and lead them to more evidence.
Given the Uvalde TX police handling of a mass murder when they sat around for an hour while kids and teachers died, listening to the screams and gunshots, I don't trust ANY police person anymore. They lie, they are indifferent to the community's fears and some are just plain incompetent. Sorry. I know that there are some good LEO'S out there...but I am a Texan and I've seen too much police incompetence.
@@janetritchie7499 I will agree there is something very off in that particular case. I will also say that while I have known MANY good LEO's I have also encountered many bad ones. Some of them are just corrupt and in it for themselves. Some are drunk on their power. Some are just too quick to blindly follow orders even though those orders are at least questionable if not outright illegal. However, the thing that really doesn't make sense to me about the Uvalde situation is that I am convinced there was a massive failure at the top. If you tell me that one officer showed up to an active school shooting and that he failed to act I can easily blame that on cowardice and lack of training and an indifference to suffering. If you tell me two officers did that I can believe it. But the story says there were 376 officers on site. I have always been told that in general 10% of people will do the right thing no matter what and 10% will do the wrong thing if they think they can get away with it, and the other 80% tend to follow the lead of everyone around them. If those officers were randomly selected from the population that means I would still expect around 38 officers to do the right thing no matter what their superiors were telling them and no matter what their fellow officers were doing. So I have to ask myself, why didn't those 38 officers do anything? I can go along with the idea that 38 of those officers were probably actively trying to get out of doing the right thing, and I can even go along with the other 80% standing by simply because that is what everyone else was doing and they weren't personally willing to be the hero that led the way. But the way I see it is there are only two explanations I can think of for those 38 good officers to not go in. Either the police officers on the scene weren't randomly selected from the population and were purposely selected for their cowardice and indifference, or those 38-ish officers had reason to believe that the actions they were taking that day were genuinely the right decisions. Personally, I lean towards the second explanation. I have heard many reports that the police were told that day that the shooter was holed up in an EMPTY classroom and that his plan was to take out as many officers as possible from his heavily fortified position in the school. Imagine for a minute that you believe that is what is really happening in the school. The proper strategies for that situation are very, very different than if you believe the shooter is actively going after victims or if there are victims potentially bleeding out on the floor. Supposedly, the officers that finally did get to him were extremely surprised because when they finally got to the classroom the gunman wasn't alone and there were victims bleeding out. As I said before, I can absolutely imagine 38 officers being absolute cowards, but I can't imagine ALL of the officers being cowards. In general, police officers tend to be MORE BRAVE than the average member of the population. And we are also talking about a group of Texans. Even if it was just a matter of cowardice, there were plenty of parents who were willing to go in that day. They could have just stood aside and let the parents take care of it if it really just came down to cowardice. I'm convinced they didn't want the parents in the way because they didn't need potentially more innocent, untrained victims getting in the way, and if the shooter really had been holed up alone in barricaded classroom intent on taking out police officers it absolutely would be the right call to keep any parents from coming in. I don't believe the Ulvade case was a group of terrible, entitled, cowardly officers. I solidly believe it was a true breakdown in communication.
But that is where I say something feels off. In hindsight we know there were people in the classrooms calling out and telling police what was happening. We also know that police officers on the ground were told that the shooter was alone and holed up in a classroom, but we don't have a single clue as to where that story even came from. In a situation like that, clear communication is absolutely essentially, and this was a catastrophic failure in the communications. Who was responsible for those breakdowns in communications and how on earth did they KEEP happening as additional reports kept coming in from people who were inside the building? That part just doesn't sound believable to me. I have actually heard a conspiracy theory that says the man who was responsible for communications that day was known to be extremely anti-gun and may have deliberately sabotaged the communication to ensure as many people died as possible to support the anti-gun lobby. If that is true, that man is truly despicable. On one hand, I have trouble believing someone could be that evil. On the other hand, it would make sense out of a situation that to me is completely senseless. It also is more believable to me that one evil person had an agenda than that an entire police force just suddenly turned cowards when the lives of innocent CHILDREN were at stake.
Anyway, regardless of the truth of that situation, I have certainly lost a ton of faith in most LEO's over the years. But I also agree that I know some very good ones. Sometimes it is hard for me to know when the police are deserving and in need of real support and when they are being either high-handed or corrupt or are trying to cover up a mistake, etc.
How the 2 survivers did not hear the noise of the victims and no breaking an entrace???? Humm too many questions
I had to pick up a friend once and she slept through her alarms, slept through my multiple phone calls, slept through me ringing her doorbell, slept through me banging on her door. I’ve had other friends fall asleep at parties and stay asleep while we were yelling and laughing right next to her. Some people are heavy sleepers.
Can’t trust anyone.