Most U.S. media is like that. If you really want the truth you need to watch the news in other countries about the U.S. Australian, Germany, English, French , Poland , the Netherlands and even Greenland has more balanced news than the U.S. media. You would be shocked how much you learn.
Absolutely none, just talking and repeating the same thing. If the the autopsies are not out yet, how do they know it is a murder? Craziness, we should stop making up the story but the news is putting stories 🙄
This hits hard for me. I have a 19 year old and a 20 year old attending the same college and I was worried before, but this pushes me over the edge. Who has the right to take these kids away from their parents. I am just in tears.
Melinda the world isn’t the same for your sons . I am so sorry try to remain optimistic. My 3 kids are adults and it’s not the same for them or any generations that passed. Evil is amongst us! Lord have mercy Amen 😢
@@danmoore3660 Why does everything have to be political with you lot? Four college kids were just murdered. This has less than nothing to do with politics. Have some respect & an ounce of common decency ffs
@@danmoore3660 Wow! PoliTRICKS now? MEMO to you, ALL parties are PURE EVIL, ALL parties and the people that vote for them are being led astray including you. 4 college students have parished and you bring PoliTRCKS into this?
With no suspects in custody, how can authorities say that there is no threat? Unbelievable! This is so heartbreaking and I send prayers and condolences to all families and all who love these beautiful youngsters. God knows the truth and may he reveal the truth to the families involved and to authorities. Everything in the dark comes to light, Amen. May God provide their loved ones with strength and comfort to pull through and to overcome such tragedy and obstacles in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen!
Not if it’s a murder/suicide…it didn’t escape notice that it was a man and 3 women. I’ve jumped to my own conclusions here, possibly wrong, but then again, maybe not.
This trend of telling the public NOTHING is not ok. People at least need to know the risk level. If they suspect murder suicide, they need to say that, if they suspect a killer not caught on the run, they need to say that. The public has a right to know how scared they should be for their kids in the surrounding homes etc
Inside Edition just released that it was not murder suicide and that someone killed them in their sleep. Seems like an intruder came in while they were asleep. Also this video just said homicide. So it was not a murder suicide. So scary.
Moscow Police initially said the four students were killed with a "sharp-edged object," later revealed to be a knife. The weapon has not been recovered.
Holy f stk... It took 2 + minutes into this report for them to kind of describe possibly what may have happened.... I'm still 4 minutes into the report and don't really have an idea of what's happened?
Just horrific. I can’t even imagine… I’d assumed it was carbon monoxide poisoning; murder????! If there’s no threat, was it murder/suicide? I’m a 45 yo Texas woman, but I had the BEST time back when I was college, and my heart is just broken for all those kiddos at the university. Praying for y’all, praying for the whole town, praying for the families & friends. All our love, from Texas. 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️
Sounds like murder suicide if no credible threat. I have only heard them say that when one of the dead killed everyone. However, who knows but why say no threat if you don't know the perp. We will see how this turns out. This is so sad no matter the how. Wait, maybe they know who it is and we just dont know and the person is detained. 😭😭
Not if you are a beta male. 80% males usually are resentful during college bc they get rejected by women. Women have the time of their lives during college, hence why 18-24 is referred to as a woman's "prime/party years"
@@thealchemist69666 Lol! Not a frat boy kinda girl, but I did party HARD! 🤣😂 I’m a 45 yo married for 20 years, mom of 2 teenagers & I still party hard! Only now, I party responsibly & not quite as hard… 🤷♀️😂😂
We must pray for their families, our country, and for the world. How does a parent sent their child off to college and get that news? This is just heartbreaking and terrifying at the same time. I'll be willing to bet everyone on campus already know what happened.
It’s one of those statements that people just say now without even realizing they are being contradictory. If there is no one in custody, the public is not safe.
@@Stopthisrightnow560 smh. There is so much vitriol st*pid!ty racism & misogyny oozing out of every corner of RUclips comments.. yet YOUR comment is even hidden on main thread. My guess is the last 2 words..? I’m going to quote you.. click on main thread & lemme know if you see my response there or just in your notifications. The censorship is clearly so pointless. “Mate, your odds of being killed by a random stranger are almost zero. Gr🅾️w u p”
I'm guessing a concerned neighbor, friend or coworker couldn't get in touch with them via phone or text, went to the address and knocked again with no response, looked in a window and spotted one of the victims and called the authorities.
Love this/these comment/questions, Kudos as I had both the wtf RE: the call to emergency services regarding one unconscious individual, and then also came to same conclusion as one above , someone went to find one or all of them after they didn’t show up somewhere or answer phone and so that individual went to the house and saw something through window etc
Maybe the person that killed them. I saw on another station it was a crime of passion. Someone from one of home towns was on the news and he said murder.
I was obviously wrong in thinking that one of the four souls was involved in the murders. The organization that is to blame for the innuendos, rumors, and misleading comments is the Moscow Police. The Police used subterfuge to mislead the public into thinking that the event was an isolated one and the community was safe. Thus, through their mendacity, the Moscow Police kept the people of the town in the dark. By doing so, it put them in a dangerous situation, by allowing the people to think that there was no culprit among them, thus, dropping their guard and not take safety precautions putting them in a state of vulnerability, which is the opposite of what the Police intended. The Police should have come out and proclaimed from the beginning that the town was in a dangerous situation, due to there being a killer in their midst, instead of trying to allay fears via the use of deceit. By saying that, with the 'more truthful' information that the public has at its disposal, we now know the killer/s is still at large, and would almost certainly be dangerous. I still do believe that it was only one killer. And, I believe, A) as I wrote below, that he (it has to be a male) is an individual who had previously approached one of the girls in the house and revealed their strong feelings for her, but the girl did not have the same feelings as him and rejected him. Because of that person's psychological state, due to the rejection, he allows the anger within him to swell up to a point of deciding to murder, not just the one person in that house that rejected him, but all four individuals. Or B) he did not approach one of the girls, but, like a true psychopath, kept constantly watching her, and by realizing he didn't have the guts to approach her, he lived in a dreamworld that one day he would be with her. Thus, via his warped sense of reality he thought she should be his.Thus the night of the murders he must have had some sense that he could never be with her and decided to commit murder instead. Finally, I only hope the Moscow Police are more truthful in future, so the public could be safe until the evil individual who committed the murders is caught. I think there are too many people here with kneejerk reaction opinions on the crime, which they are entitled to. However, I will throw my hat into the ring and try to explain what I think eventuated in that house on the night in question. I might be wrong, but what's it going to cost? We have two strong clues from the Police; 1) The crime was one of passion, and 2) There is no further threat to the community , in the vicinity of the crime. Those two clues allow us to focus on the persons in that house, rather than an individual or two fleeing the scene and being a danger to the community at large. If we focus on the crime of passion we arrive at two answers. Before that, let's look at what a crime of passion means. 1) A crime of passion occurs when: A) a person in a relationship finds out about certain indiscretions that his or her partner has made. By that I mean sexual misconduct with at least one or more individuals. The boy/girlfriend who finds the sexual relations out decides to kill their partner and the sexual partner of their boy/girl friend B) An individual who had previously approached one of the people in the house and revealed their strong feelings for that person, but the person did not have the same feelings as him/her and rejected him/her. Because of that person's psychological state, due to the rejection, he/she allows the anger within him/her to swell up to a point of deciding to murder, not just the one person in that house that rejected him/her, but all four individuals. I would think the answer in this case would be A. I believe a person in a relationship caught wind of the sexual misconduct of their partner and took deadly action. I could only arrive to that answer because of what the police said about the threat to the community. If it were someone on the outside of that house, who went in in the late hours and murdered all four people, he/she would either be on the run now, and the Police would be looking for him/her. 1)If that was the case the Police would not declare that the community was safe, and nothing further would occur in this case. The Police said that the killings came in "an isolated, targeted attack and there is no imminent threat to the community at large." To make that statement, The Police would be 100% certain that the killer/s is/are not a threat. 2)(Unlikely) The Police know who did it and already have the murderer/murderers under surveillance. 3) (Less likely) The Police know that the murderers have left Idaho and are moving to another State. If that was the case, the Police in Idaho would declare that the perpetrator/perpetrators are heading for Washington State, Wyoming, or Montana, that did not happen. That leaves us with the four souls in that house. I believe the murderer was one of them. I think in the late hours when all four people were supposedly asleep one of the individuals went into the room of one of the other individuals and "went erotic" on each other. The boy/girl friend of the individual found out something was amiss, grabbed a knife went into the other room and killed one or two of the individuals. At that moment the fourth individual came in the room and was also attacked, however, one of the individuals grabbed the knife from the killer and stabbed the perpetrator, who died. The person who was seen walking around the house at 3 or 4 am in the morning might have been the person who killed the killer, but with a lot of blood loss eventually succumbed to his/her injuries and died. Thus, the containment within the house, where the Police declare the events happened, would point to the crime being perpetrated in a fashion similar to my thoughts.
Wallace, you don't need to read it all. Actually, the second half of my post where I gave my opinion of the murders was written at the beginning when Moscow police said it was an isolated case and people were safe. My second theory which I wrote after finding out all 4 souls where killed by an outsider is in the first part of my post. I left the second part there to allow the readers to see the previous analysis.
In Missouri most unexplained group deaths in young people are drug related. The public needs to know the causes of death asap to help individuals assess their own risks.
THIS IS RIDICULOUS! By not giving the public any information they are causing unnecessary fear for other students. They could at least let them know if this was indeed a murder or something else. One minute they are saying there is no threat to the public then the next minute they are shocked that something like this could happen in this small community. Something like what?????
@@luv2luv720 He's been on university watchlists for awhile now because of allegations of him purportedly stating he engaged in illegal concealed carry. But the police were forced to drop that investigation because the witnesses "refused to cooperate". How was that allowed by the university???
I'm in NC and when it was first reported on my local station they stated that it was a crime of passion. I've not heard that mentioned as they speak about it daily just that there is no threat to anyone else.
LOl you say Yet religion is behind killing more people than anything else throughout history right up to today. ask a native American what god and religion did for them.
Yes Love, Forgiveness, and Joy are sorely needed in this World. Forgiveness can be difficult but the relief and freedom from whatever anger brings amazing results. 💋
If the police aren't saying it looks like someone attacked them, it makes me think they may have been given something for a good time Saturday night and things went tragically wrong. So heartbreaking.
Is it possible that drug use is the cause of death and because many drugs have other bad substances in it it’s listed as a murder. They may be protecting the deceased students by not letting people know it’s drugs
These students are acting like there’s somebody walking down the main street of their campus shooting people at random. So, they all hop in their cars and drive home on winter roads without fear, texting all the way, where on average 82 people died just today in this country.
Sending 🙏🙏🙏 prayers to all the families of these young babies. Most of us don't have a chance at college and these 4 young adults were in college paving their future an tooken to soon. Rest in heaven 💖
@@spuddy4845 1st of all because you feel that way does not mean that everybody feels that way do not assume that you can say anything about me and how I feel and think, understood! I don't know you, you don't know me, none of the things that I say is hollow, so go troll somewhere else!
Very sad news. I believe there is a threat. Because the authorities don't know exactly what's going on. I like to send my condolences to the families 🙏 R.I.P. 🌺🌺🌺🌺
@@GillAgainsIsland12 ikr..i live in Idaho & they say this regarding every crime. There was a couple murdered a few miles from my home & as always said no threat to the public..case is still unsolved!
I used to be a student there. The usual disingenuous comments from the university president following tragedies like this just make me sick. Everybody is more concerned with going through the motions and protecting the image of the university and the town than they are with addressing the deeper problems that this is symptomatic of. Those students going home early don’t actually give to shits about the victims, it’s just a good excuse to take a break from a toxic institution.
This is very sad. Young adults attending college with the hope of a bright future. Now parents must do the unthinkable and plan funerals. God bless each family with strength, resources and community support to help during this challenging time. Rest In Peace to all who died
There seems to be no urgency to find out who would do this horrendous act? I feel sad for the heartbreak that these parents are going through. No one should loose a child like this! May all families find peace.
Thinking when I was 20 a few years ago and the carefree life I lived. This breaks my heart to no end. So super young! Father God give them justice! Let the degenerates who did this pay!
Sending strength to all those who loved these beautiful students as well as anyone effected by their tragic deaths as they journey through their path of grief. Robbed of the chances to live life, unfair and terrifying.
The call was for an unconscious person.... if the scene was as egregious as some have reported, who in their right mind would see one of the four victims and simply call it in as an unconscious person...??? Was the suspect the unconscious person??? Possibly discovered outside the residence...?? Unconscious from injuries sustained while committing the crime?? Or unconscious from a self-inflicted wound?? Transported to the hospital and now in police custody?? Or deceased, therefore no threat?? Or did the suspect flee the scene and commit suicide elsewhere, leaving a note confessing to the murders therefore no threat??
Fouraome that some boyfriend found out about is what it rings off to me the fact 3 girls one guy no robbery evidence seems like a love crime and witnesses cant talk
The reason for the lack of media communication might be due to foul play. Maybe not a gun crime, but if they think someone killed them (somehow) it's better that the suspect thinks he got away with it.
What an amazing beautiful young lady you can see the love she has been raised with she glows. This is so heartbreaking Four young amazing people trying to start life. Not just for Idaho but for our whole nation. Sending all the love to their families and love ones this has changed their lives forever more.
PBS news hour reported this as a gun violence crime for all four victims. The fact of the police in Idaho saying there is no threat to the community with no one in custody, can only mean one thing if you put all of those things together. UPDATE: Nov 15 2022 7:13pm cst. The New York times has a new article out on this case. Law enforcement now calling these murders " A Crime of passion". The Coroner stating this was NOT A Murder Suicide but said no further info on their deaths without authorization from police investigating. PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE FOR YOURSELF FOR CLARITY.
@@spezkay81 NO. It is not a different story or different school. PBS news hours reported on Moscow Idaho campus school murders of 4 students and the University of VA ex football player killing 3 of his former teammates. The reporter said BOTH college campus school murders were due to gun violence. 2 colleges a total of 7 murders.
@@annie1779 Look up PBS news hour on youtube today. The reporter is CLEARLY REPORTING ON BOTH campus tragedies. Its not misinformation. Research it yourself. Reporter stated a total of 7 murders all due to gun violence from both campuses combined.
They should give any student who wants to stop attending classes this semester and next semester all A's in their classes. They should still make them pay tuition though.
@@jagpilotohio Zero way this is a homicide. If four people were literally muderered there'd be FBI there and way more cops. That counts as a mass killing. This was probably drug related.
very strange? there was a mass shooting at university of virginia just a bit ago and students that new the victims and the shooter came forward and told of alot of bullying and harrasment that shooter had been receiving...wow..finally he lashed out after complaints to the school did not stop his torment...just saying...one guy with three girls and all killed? sure sounds like a case of jealousy or maybe some other thing???..these shootings dont seem to be geared to create panic at schools...just people taking out their frustrations violently
"senseless act of violence" " murder" "no threat to the public" "stabbed" -all terminology used in news reports describing this case but I can only think of literally 1 outcome where that all makes sense.... 3 girls, 1 guy.. gf 1 finds out about cheating with girl 2 roommate and gf stabs the roommate friend and her bf the guy, then 3rd girl roommate rushes in tries to stop it and fights gf for knife. She gets the knife stabs the gf in self defense, only to drop the knife in a scuffle, then gf picks it back up before bleeding out and then stabs her back in retaliation and then all 4 bleed to death. All because no one could talk about their feelings like adults. Makes sense. Ugh I'm hoping I'm wrong but either way, they died a horrific death and it's so dam sad people have to die over ridiculous reasons.
I wouldn't stay there either, how creepy and they are saying there's nothing to worry about? That's crazy, find the killer, put the students on online school this is an emergency!
How does one person stab four people and nobody hears or sees a thing. There were two other people in the house? What about them? What did they see or hear? Who was there? There is weirdness here
What I find interesting is the difference in the way this matter is being reported nationally compared to the University of Virginia shootings. Very little is being reported about what happened in Idaho. This story is not getting the same coverage. Even the way the story is being reported locally is cryptic.
I bet the college is covering up weird they won't say they were shot at least if not they probably hung out and took drugs I bet probably laced with fentanyl
So sorry for the families ' precious loses. Prayers for them & the University fami!y. So young, horny & Happy looking. People shouldn't be jumping to conclusions on what happened. If intentional harm was done let the investigation play out. If recreational -related activities gone wrong they will figure that out...don't malign their characters in any case...this is so tragic regardless. Again my deep sympathy to all affected & God-speed to finding the truth.
Nothing like that ever happens here! Is heard far to often after something like this does happen.All High School Seniors need to attend a required lecture, repeated at the Freshman, and Sophomore levels at College, on Situational Awareness, and Personal Security!
We had a school shooting here in NC where a woman was shot in a parking lot of a middle school in Lumberton NC as an athletic awards ceremony was taking place on the football field. One ten or twelve year old student jumped to cover a teacher during the incident. WRALTV carried the story. A week earlier four or five people were gunned down by a 15 year old student in Raleigh. The Lumberton shooting occurred on Thursday 11/17/2022. The world long gone crazy.
All you hear are eulogies. No information on possible suspects or motives. Terrible reporting. Was it a break-in? Was anything taken? Did any of them have any enemies. Basic questions that could have been answered on day one. Wow, what happened to real investigative reporters?
Doesn't seem like a group overdose, if they mentioned "suspected homicide" and "senseless act of violence" yet, with no risk to the community and no suspect. Doesn't make much sense, unless all 4 got into some confrontation/fight, 1 was armed shot/stabbed 3 of them then off'd themselves after committing this triple murder. Just another average day in 2022 following the trend and increase of people completely loosing the plot....Rip to the victims families/friends...
8 minutes of “reporting” and they haven’t told us anything...
Most U.S. media is like that. If you really want the truth you need to watch the news in other countries about the U.S. Australian, Germany, English, French , Poland , the Netherlands and even Greenland has more balanced news than the U.S. media. You would be shocked how much you learn.
Well…. This news in this video DID tell us to not speculate and wait for info from police, ya know, follow their example
Absolutely none, just talking and repeating the same thing. If the the autopsies are not out yet, how do they know it is a murder? Craziness, we should stop making up the story but the news is putting stories 🙄
You have to get a college degree to do this…
Thank you! Lol Sorry this happenend though
This hits hard for me. I have a 19 year old and a 20 year old attending the same college and I was worried before, but this pushes me over the edge. Who has the right to take these kids away from their parents. I am just in tears.
Melinda the world isn’t the same for your sons . I am so sorry try to remain optimistic. My 3 kids are adults and it’s not the same for them or any generations that passed. Evil is amongst us! Lord have mercy Amen 😢
@@lindatohara6438 you live in a bubble....evil is allowed to exist because love isn't that strong anymore
Women who vote Dem have no right to complain.
@@danmoore3660 Why does everything have to be political with you lot? Four college kids were just murdered. This has less than nothing to do with politics. Have some respect & an ounce of common decency ffs
@@danmoore3660 Wow! PoliTRICKS now? MEMO to you, ALL parties are PURE EVIL, ALL parties and the people that vote for them are being led astray including you. 4 college students have parished and you bring PoliTRCKS into this?
With no suspects in custody, how can authorities say that there is no threat? Unbelievable! This is so heartbreaking and I send prayers and condolences to all families and all who love these beautiful youngsters. God knows the truth and may he reveal the truth to the families involved and to authorities. Everything in the dark comes to light, Amen. May God provide their loved ones with strength and comfort to pull through and to overcome such tragedy and obstacles in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen!
I bet it's drugs
Maybe there is no suspect because it was an accident.
Or maybe the suspect never left the house..
Right unless it’s a murder suicide.
That sounds like cop
pr speak for one of the dead having caused all this.
Not if it’s a murder/suicide…it didn’t escape notice that it was a man and 3 women. I’ve jumped to my own conclusions here, possibly wrong, but then again, maybe not.
I am so sorry for the families of the victims loss. That is so terrible. My heart goes out to them. 😞💖
America is loosing it's culture human to humanity .
@Asain Racist speaks truth at least 117 people. How many people could honestly say that they care about you, though?
@Asain Racist speaks truth lol
@Asain Racist speaks truth
Stop being a fucken idiot! That’s all trolls like you want. Who cares when your momma dies or your stupid ass relatives!!
This trend of telling the public NOTHING is not ok. People at least need to know the risk level. If they suspect murder suicide, they need to say that, if they suspect a killer not caught on the run, they need to say that. The public has a right to know how scared they should be for their kids in the surrounding homes etc
If the murder weapon was not found at the scene, it’s not murder suicide.
Apparently, the FBI steps in now in any high profile case and censors and dictates. It's a script and it's disgusting and wrong.
You mean except for calling every incident "tragic" and making "condolences" and praising law enforcement.
Inside Edition just released that it was not murder suicide and that someone killed them in their sleep. Seems like an intruder came in while they were asleep. Also this video just said homicide. So it was not a murder suicide.
So scary.
Moscow Police initially said the four students were killed with a "sharp-edged object," later revealed to be a knife. The weapon has not been recovered.
Holy f stk... It took 2 + minutes into this report for them to kind of describe possibly what may have happened.... I'm still 4 minutes into the report and don't really have an idea of what's happened?
Holy God, Holy Almighty One have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Same here, I came to the comments trying to find out what happened, Still don't know.
Won't tell you anything, but then they warn of rumors. News people start this crap !
That passes for journalism.
This is so beyond tragic, how and why did this happen to these college kids???
Please God help these families.
Biden, Mayorkas and Obama are very happy and proud their illegal immigrant soldiers killed a bunch of innocent whiteys
Just horrific. I can’t even imagine… I’d assumed it was carbon monoxide poisoning; murder????! If there’s no threat, was it murder/suicide? I’m a 45 yo Texas woman, but I had the BEST time back when I was college, and my heart is just broken for all those kiddos at the university. Praying for y’all, praying for the whole town, praying for the families & friends. All our love, from Texas. 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️
Lol I bet u had the BEST time in college with them frat boys and alcoholic beverages 😆 😝
Sounds like murder suicide if no credible threat. I have only heard them say that when one of the dead killed everyone. However, who knows but why say no threat if you don't know the perp. We will see how this turns out. This is so sad no matter the how. Wait, maybe they know who it is and we just dont know and the person is detained. 😭😭
Not if you are a beta male. 80% males usually are resentful during college bc they get rejected by women. Women have the time of their lives during college, hence why 18-24 is referred to as a woman's "prime/party years"
@@thealchemist69666 Lol! Not a frat boy kinda girl, but I did party HARD! 🤣😂 I’m a 45 yo married for 20 years, mom of 2 teenagers & I still party hard! Only now, I party responsibly & not quite as hard… 🤷♀️😂😂
@Hit and Run Oh my goodness!!!! How can the cops tell locals that there is no threat??! That’s crazy!
So sorry for the loss of those beautiful souls. Praying for all four students families and friends.
I was at the Vigil. I really believe the ex boyfriend did it. I have good reasons to believe it was him
We must pray for their families, our country, and for the world. How does a parent sent their child off to college and get that news? This is just heartbreaking and terrifying at the same time. I'll be willing to bet everyone on campus already know what happened.
It’s one of those statements that people just say now without even realizing they are being contradictory. If there is no one in custody, the public is not safe.
Law enforcement said the same thing about the Delphi murders. Yeah sure.,,,
@ALLisOn e they said all 4 were homicides
Mate, your odds of being killed by a random stranger are almost zero. Grow up.
@ALLisOn e it was a stabbing
@@Stopthisrightnow560 smh. There is so much vitriol st*pid!ty racism & misogyny oozing out of every corner of RUclips comments.. yet YOUR comment is even hidden on main thread. My guess is the last 2 words..? I’m going to quote you.. click on main thread & lemme know if you see my response there or just in your notifications. The censorship is clearly so pointless. “Mate, your odds of being killed by a random stranger are almost zero. Gr🅾️w u p”
How horrifying! Right before the holidays too..I can't even fathom! Prayers for the families and all affected..
im so confused? who called and reported only one person unconcious? so sad!!!!! my heart goes to them.
Yes, good point. I’m asking the same thing
I'm guessing a concerned neighbor, friend or coworker couldn't get in touch with them via phone or text, went to the address and knocked again with no response, looked in a window and spotted one of the victims and called the authorities.
Love this/these comment/questions, Kudos as I had both the wtf RE: the call to emergency services regarding one unconscious individual, and then also came to same conclusion as one above , someone went to find one or all of them after they didn’t show up somewhere or answer phone and so that individual went to the house and saw something through window etc
Maybe the person that killed them. I saw on another station it was a crime of passion. Someone from one of home towns was on the news and he said murder.
@@tansywelsh1636 q
So the news is, there is no news.
Or they make some news up
That's sad that the Ethan kid was a triplet. I can't imagine what his two other siblings must be going through.
I was obviously wrong in thinking that one of the four souls was involved in the murders. The organization that is to blame for the innuendos, rumors, and misleading comments is the Moscow Police. The Police used subterfuge to mislead the public into thinking that the event was an isolated one and the community was safe. Thus, through their mendacity, the Moscow Police kept the people of the town in the dark. By doing so, it put them in a dangerous situation, by allowing the people to think that there was no culprit among them, thus, dropping their guard and not take safety precautions putting them in a state of vulnerability, which is the opposite of what the Police intended. The Police should have come out and proclaimed from the beginning that the town was in a dangerous situation, due to there being a killer in their midst, instead of trying to allay fears via the use of deceit.
By saying that, with the 'more truthful' information that the public has at its disposal, we now know the killer/s is still at large, and would almost certainly be dangerous.
I still do believe that it was only one killer. And, I believe, A) as I wrote below, that he (it has to be a male) is an individual who had previously approached one of the girls in the house and revealed their strong feelings for her, but the girl did not have the same feelings as him and rejected him. Because of that person's psychological state, due to the rejection, he allows the anger within him to swell up to a point of deciding to murder, not just the one person in that house that rejected him, but all four individuals. Or B) he did not approach one of the girls, but, like a true psychopath, kept constantly watching her, and by realizing he didn't have the guts to approach her, he lived in a dreamworld that one day he would be with her. Thus, via his warped sense of reality he thought she should be his.Thus the night of the murders he must have had some sense that he could never be with her and decided to commit murder instead.
Finally, I only hope the Moscow Police are more truthful in future, so the public could be safe until the evil individual who committed the murders is caught.
I think there are too many people here with kneejerk reaction opinions on the crime, which they are entitled to.
However, I will throw my hat into the ring and try to explain what I think eventuated in that house on the night in question. I might be wrong, but what's it going to cost?
We have two strong clues from the Police; 1) The crime was one of passion, and 2) There is no further threat to the community , in the vicinity of the crime.
Those two clues allow us to focus on the persons in that house, rather than an individual or two fleeing the scene and being a danger to the community at large.
If we focus on the crime of passion we arrive at two answers. Before that, let's look at what a crime of passion means.
1) A crime of passion occurs when:
A) a person in a relationship finds out about certain indiscretions that his or her partner has made. By that I mean sexual misconduct with at least one or more individuals. The boy/girlfriend who finds the sexual relations out decides to kill their partner and the sexual partner of their boy/girl friend
B) An individual who had previously approached one of the people in the house and revealed their strong feelings for that person, but the person did not have the same feelings as him/her and rejected him/her. Because of that person's psychological state, due to the rejection, he/she allows the anger within him/her to swell up to a point of deciding to murder, not just the one person in that house that rejected him/her, but all four individuals.
I would think the answer in this case would be A. I believe a person in a relationship caught wind of the sexual misconduct of their partner and took deadly action.
I could only arrive to that answer because of what the police said about the threat to the community.
If it were someone on the outside of that house, who went in in the late hours and murdered all four people, he/she would either be on the run now, and the Police would be looking for him/her.
1)If that was the case the Police would not declare that the community was safe, and nothing further would occur in this case. The Police said that the killings came in "an isolated, targeted attack and there is no imminent threat to the community at large." To make that statement, The Police would be 100% certain that the killer/s is/are not a threat.
2)(Unlikely) The Police know who did it and already have the murderer/murderers under surveillance.
3) (Less likely) The Police know that the murderers have left Idaho and are moving to another State. If that was the case, the Police in Idaho would declare that the perpetrator/perpetrators are heading for Washington State, Wyoming, or Montana, that did not happen.
That leaves us with the four souls in that house. I believe the murderer was one of them.
I think in the late hours when all four people were supposedly asleep one of the individuals went into the room of one of the other individuals and "went erotic" on each other. The boy/girl friend of the individual found out something was amiss, grabbed a knife went into the other room and killed one or two of the individuals. At that moment the fourth individual came in the room and was also attacked, however, one of the individuals grabbed the knife from the killer and stabbed the perpetrator, who died. The person who was seen walking around the house at 3 or 4 am in the morning might have been the person who killed the killer, but with a lot of blood loss eventually succumbed to his/her injuries and died. Thus, the containment within the house, where the Police declare the events happened, would point to the crime being perpetrated in a fashion similar to my thoughts.
Agree
Oh my god man, this guy must be a writer or something!?!?
Very good analysis!
Who can read this til the end?
Wallace, you don't need to read it all. Actually, the second half of my post where I gave my opinion of the murders was written at the beginning when Moscow police said it was an isolated case and people were safe.
My second theory which I wrote after finding out all 4 souls where killed by an outsider is in the first part of my post. I left the second part there to allow the readers to see the previous analysis.
never understand why people say, "it shouldn't happen here"...like Where do you want it to happen????
In Missouri most unexplained group deaths in young people are drug related. The public needs to know the causes of death asap to help individuals assess their own risks.
In this case they're calling it "homicide", which is not usually associated with drug ODs
@@greasesicle Missouri is racist AF. The groups of young people dying with drugs involved are diverse.
It's a homicide not drug related at all!
@@greasesicle In Newark,there is a statue for a confessed convicted felon in front of City Hall.
@@eMegMBea many states will prosecute a drug dealer for manslaughter if they sell drugs to someone and they die.
THIS IS RIDICULOUS! By not giving the public any information they are causing unnecessary fear for other students. They could at least let them know if this was indeed a murder or something else. One minute they are saying there is no threat to the public then the next minute they are shocked that something like this could happen in this small community. Something like what?????
This is sad 😢 sending my condolences 💐 to the families of the 4 victims who lost 😞 their lives in this horrific tragedy May they RIP 🙏
no one is resting, they died
Condolences 💐. Condolences to the 3 college football students at Virginia. 🙏🏾
is it the same man?
@@spuddy4845 good question! I bet they’re all wondering the same thing!
@@AnnaMorris411 no. Virginia man is in custody since yesterday.
@@luv2luv720 He's been on university watchlists for awhile now because of allegations of him purportedly stating he engaged in illegal concealed carry. But the police were forced to drop that investigation because the witnesses "refused to cooperate". How was that allowed by the university???
Grow up
I'm in NC and when it was first reported on my local station they stated that it was a crime of passion. I've not heard that mentioned as they speak about it daily just that there is no threat to anyone else.
How do they actually know the community isn’t at risk and there’s not a threat??
They know that most of the so-called "community" won't be interacting with the drug dealers from the Sigma Chi Frat.
It usually means one is a suicide
Right
They are fake deaths
@@Chad_Max homegirl smoke three of her friends and then herself doesn’t make any sense.
Those kids had a whole life ahead of them. Heartbreaking! This world needs God more in thier lives! Prayers for all!
you are right and all the babies they abort every day!!
LOl you say Yet religion is behind killing more people than anything else throughout history right up to today. ask a native American what god and religion did for them.
amen!!!
Yes Love, Forgiveness, and Joy are sorely needed in this World. Forgiveness can be difficult but the relief and freedom from whatever anger brings amazing results. 💋
this is so horrible, may they Rest in Paradise and them and their loved ones get justice and peace
They never said what happened. Homicide, bad drugs, carbon monoxide, what? Keeping it under wraps, why?
I heard homicide.
Maybe all family wasn’t notified??
Bad drugs is labelled as homicide. So it still could be they purchased bad drugs.
@@itsnotthesamething .Girls are nothing but trouble
Could be anything from murder suicide to tainted drugs. It's best to let the investigation continue.
If the police aren't saying it looks like someone attacked them, it makes me think they may have been given something for a good time Saturday night and things went tragically wrong. So heartbreaking.
Crime of passion I heard on a different news channel.
@Hit and Run 😮😮😮
@@tansywelsh1636 of my word that's so much worse than what I was thinking. I'm sure people are scared knowing that.
@@tansywelsh1636 yeah my guess is another jealous bf or ex
They said they’re homicide victims
No suspects? No threat to the public? How does that make sense unless they think it was murder/suicide? RIP.
Is it possible that drug use is the cause of death and because many drugs have other bad substances in it it’s listed as a murder. They may be protecting the deceased students by not letting people know it’s drugs
@@DeeDee-wx7fi it's possible, but that would be called accidental overdose. I don't think they would call it murder. I heard it was a stabbing.?
How horrible! My condolences to their families and friends. May their memory always be for a blessing.
These students are acting like there’s somebody walking down the main street of their campus shooting people at random. So, they all hop in their cars and drive home on winter roads without fear, texting all the way, where on average 82 people died just today in this country.
*It pays to pay attention - but we won't discuss little matters such as this*
Suspect # 1 fentynal!
Sending 🙏🙏🙏 prayers to all the families of these young babies. Most of us don't have a chance at college and these 4 young adults were in college paving their future an tooken to soon. Rest in heaven 💖
My heart goes out to the victims and all their loved ones... Sending love and prayers to everybody!
you won't pray and you certainly don't love them, hollow words
@@spuddy4845 1st of all because you feel that way does not mean that everybody feels that way do not assume that you can say anything about me and how I feel and think, understood! I don't know you, you don't know me, none of the things that I say is hollow, so go troll somewhere else!
Very sad news. I believe there is a threat. Because the authorities don't know exactly what's going on. I like to send my condolences to the families 🙏 R.I.P. 🌺🌺🌺🌺
Something is off in this case especially the way it's being reported
There is definitely a threat in the community if no one is in custody and these students were killed. Like.. Why would they say there isn't??? Smh
Because they like to treat the public like mindless children.
@@GillAgainsIsland12 ikr..i live in Idaho & they say this regarding every crime. There was a couple murdered a few miles from my home & as always said no threat to the public..case is still unsolved!
Idk bella but they say that all the time. Now he is saying " they don't know" & to be vigilant..im thinking this should of been said rite after!
Law enforcement does that all the time.
American society is a horror show
NY Times is saying it was a homicide, a crime of passion, not a murder suicide and no imminent threat, whatever the hell that means.
Cap’n is so far the mvp of all 300+ of us a-holes
I used to be a student there. The usual disingenuous comments from the university president following tragedies like this just make me sick. Everybody is more concerned with going through the motions and protecting the image of the university and the town than they are with addressing the deeper problems that this is symptomatic of. Those students going home early don’t actually give to shits about the victims, it’s just a good excuse to take a break from a toxic institution.
So true!
What are the deeper problems?
Fentanyl probably
@@wildchick but that wouldn’t be an automatic ‘murder’ situation…
I originally thought the same..
Maybe it was carbon monoxide poisoning 😢
This is very sad. Young adults attending college with the hope of a bright future. Now parents must do the unthinkable and plan funerals. God bless each family with strength, resources and community support to help during this challenging time. Rest In Peace to all who died
This is the worst coverage of crime involving multiple deaths I have ever seen. I wish I could un-see this.
You can never understand the pain in your heart to have a family member murdered. 😢💔🙏🙏🙏
I am so sorry for this tragedy, and how can they make assumptions that this person who is still at large or persons is no threat to the public
So many young people are dying these days, Lord bless the families.,🙏
There seems to be no urgency to find out who would do this horrendous act?
I feel sad for the heartbreak that these parents are going through. No one should loose a child like this! May all families find peace.
How did they die? Homicide? What happened????
It was probably fentanyl . That’s why there saying no threat to the community
Homicide
They were stabbed to death
Thinking when I was 20 a few years ago and the carefree life I lived. This breaks my heart to no end.
So super young! Father God give them justice! Let the degenerates who did this pay!
This is insane, the police need to find the killer. There is still a threat if no one is in custody!!
Praying for the family and friends! Sending condolences 🙏
Fentanyl
The Serial killer could be someone who works in the school, even a cop or someone important in the community or another student.
JESUS, HELP THESE FAMILIES....
Sending strength to all those who loved these beautiful students as well as anyone effected by their tragic deaths as they journey through their path of grief. Robbed of the chances to live life, unfair and terrifying.
The call was for an unconscious person.... if the scene was as egregious as some have reported, who in their right mind would see one of the four victims and simply call it in as an unconscious person...??? Was the suspect the unconscious person??? Possibly discovered outside the residence...?? Unconscious from injuries sustained while committing the crime?? Or unconscious from a self-inflicted wound?? Transported to the hospital and now in police custody?? Or deceased, therefore no threat?? Or did the suspect flee the scene and commit suicide elsewhere, leaving a note confessing to the murders therefore no threat??
why did the reporter throw in "tragic act of violence.." when he didnt say that hmm 🤔and spoke over him why no details
Rub it in your face they know something you don't. - nah - nah na na na
This is bringing back memories of the Gainseville murders. So sad for victims and families and friends.
This is heartbreaking 💔 my sincere condolences to the families 😔 🙏🏾 May they rest peacefully 🕯️ 🕊️
Fouraome that some boyfriend found out about is what it rings off to me the fact 3 girls one guy no robbery evidence seems like a love crime and witnesses cant talk
Hope he got to clap cheeks b4 he got stabbed
The reason for the lack of media communication might be due to foul play. Maybe not a gun crime, but if they think someone killed them (somehow) it's better that the suspect thinks he got away with it.
LAME ....how am I over 3 minutes in and I still don't know what happened other than some people died somehow (?)
Try harder cause this is BEAT
What an amazing beautiful young lady you can see the love she has been raised with she glows. This is so heartbreaking Four young amazing people trying to start life. Not just for Idaho but for our whole nation. Sending all the love to their families and love ones this has changed their lives forever more.
No she was just a spoiled white girl..nothing pretty about that girl. She was probably a narcissistic brat
Her ex boyfriend did it.
RIP to all victims and my condolences
Condolences and prayers to the families of these young people.
Why do people always say, “I didn’t think it could happen here?” I will never understand how gullible and dumb people are.
So sad, all 4 were too young! My condolences
One report I saw said they died from a knife attack.
PBS news hour reported this as a gun violence crime for all four victims. The fact of the police in Idaho saying there is no threat to the community with no one in custody, can only mean one thing if you put all of those things together.
UPDATE: Nov 15 2022 7:13pm cst. The New York times has a new article out on this case. Law enforcement now calling these murders " A Crime of passion". The Coroner stating this was NOT A Murder Suicide but said no further info on their deaths without authorization from police investigating.
PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE FOR YOURSELF FOR CLARITY.
That’s an entirely different case. Different school.
@@spezkay81 NO. It is not a different story or different school. PBS news hours reported on Moscow Idaho campus school murders of 4 students and the University of VA ex football player killing 3 of his former teammates. The reporter said BOTH college campus school murders were due to gun violence. 2 colleges a total of 7 murders.
@@annie1779 no there was 3 victims in virginia, this is true
@@annie1779 Look up PBS news hour on youtube today. The reporter is CLEARLY REPORTING ON BOTH campus tragedies. Its not misinformation. Research it yourself. Reporter stated a total of 7 murders all due to gun violence from both campuses combined.
@@emmalol8411 This comment is saying that this happened in this case (Idaho) which is not true
There's too many demons being released y'all need to start praying we all do
So the halom collider is a portal
Drugs?
They should give any student who wants to stop attending classes this semester and next semester all A's in their classes. They should still make them pay tuition though.
They said “Homicide, but no threat” = Drugs
Absolutely drugs
Send your kids to school and this happens sad
the tragedy is dying without Christ
Eternity is forever
praying for the four students and their families and friends..
What is with the complete silence on how they died? It’s clearly foul play but I’m confused as to why they won’t even mention cause of death. Weird.
Overdose. Duh
@@vanna13v duh? They said it’s being investigated as homicide. That means a deliberate action not pill snorting.
shooting.
@@jagpilotohio Zero way this is a homicide. If four people were literally muderered there'd be FBI there and way more cops. That counts as a mass killing. This was probably drug related.
It can’t be an overdose. LE have already said it’s a homicide. Death at the hands of another, ie murder.
I am so sorry for both the young students and their families...Very sad prayers to everyone 🙏 😢
I’m sorry for your loss.
Yes there is something strange in the neighborhood.
So sorry to hear, may God help the families and friends. My deepest condolences and prayers.🙏
very strange? there was a mass shooting at university of virginia just a bit ago and students that new the victims and the shooter came forward and told of alot of bullying and harrasment that shooter had been receiving...wow..finally he lashed out after complaints to the school did not stop his torment...just saying...one guy with three girls and all killed? sure sounds like a case of jealousy or maybe some other thing???..these shootings dont seem to be geared to create panic at schools...just people taking out their frustrations violently
I feel so bad for the family,
My condolences to all victims family involved.🙏.
"senseless act of violence" " murder" "no threat to the public" "stabbed" -all terminology used in news reports describing this case but I can only think of literally 1 outcome where that all makes sense.... 3 girls, 1 guy.. gf 1 finds out about cheating with girl 2 roommate and gf stabs the roommate friend and her bf the guy, then 3rd girl roommate rushes in tries to stop it and fights gf for knife. She gets the knife stabs the gf in self defense, only to drop the knife in a scuffle, then gf picks it back up before bleeding out and then stabs her back in retaliation and then all 4 bleed to death. All because no one could talk about their feelings like adults. Makes sense. Ugh I'm hoping I'm wrong but either way, they died a horrific death and it's so dam sad people have to die over ridiculous reasons.
I wouldn't stay there either, how creepy and they are saying there's nothing to worry about? That's crazy, find the killer, put the students on online school this is an emergency!
How does one person stab four people and nobody hears or sees a thing. There were two other people in the house? What about them? What did they see or hear? Who was there? There is weirdness here
What I find interesting is the difference in the way this matter is being reported nationally compared to the University of Virginia shootings. Very little is being reported about what happened in Idaho. This story is not getting the same coverage. Even the way the story is being reported locally is cryptic.
Pink vs brown
My deepest condolences goes out to all the families involved 🙏
JESUCRISTO ✝️ BENDIGA TODO VÍCTIMAS Y FAMILIAS Y AMIGOS PARA SIEMPRE AMÉN 🙏 AMÉN 🙏✝️💚😇
Law Enforcement needs to define what happen…!
It was a murder/suicide
I bet the college is covering up weird they won't say they were shot at least if not they probably hung out and took drugs I bet probably laced with fentanyl
@@CocoAvalon who was the murderer?
@Hit and Run so how could they be sure the campus and city is safe?
@Hit and Run that’s being murdered Bro. If you get stabbed to death, that’s murder
Praying for the families of these girl’s families.
😢🙏🏼
So sorry for the families ' precious loses. Prayers for them & the University fami!y. So young, horny & Happy looking. People shouldn't be jumping to conclusions on what happened. If intentional harm was done let the investigation play out. If recreational -related activities gone wrong they will figure that out...don't malign their characters in any case...this is so tragic regardless. Again my deep sympathy to all affected & God-speed to finding the truth.
**HEALTHY
Nothing like that ever happens here! Is heard far to often after something like this does happen.All High School Seniors need to attend a required lecture, repeated at the Freshman, and Sophomore levels at College, on Situational Awareness, and Personal Security!
Stabbed to death is definitely personal. I wonder if it had something to do with the couple.
It's called overdoses
We had a school shooting here in NC where a woman was shot in a parking lot of a middle school in Lumberton NC as an athletic awards ceremony was taking place on the football field. One ten or twelve year old student jumped to cover a teacher during the incident. WRALTV carried the story. A week earlier four or five people were gunned down by a 15 year old student in Raleigh. The Lumberton shooting occurred on Thursday 11/17/2022. The world long gone crazy.
Just horrible..come Lord Jesus, Jesus is our only hope..the world is mad..but Jesus said in the last days lawlessness would cover the land.
Omg could it be a ex boyfriend Rip condolences to family and friends
Such a tragic event and not receiving the coverage by MSM because the murder weapon was not a firearm makes this even more Fd up.
All you hear are eulogies. No information on possible suspects or motives. Terrible reporting. Was it a break-in? Was anything taken? Did any of them have any enemies. Basic questions that could have been answered on day one. Wow, what happened to real investigative reporters?
My guess is Ethan killed the rest..
Ya same that name don’t sound right
You mean Lamal
No, he was a victim. Don't blame the victims.
what we know so far zero
Doesn't seem like a group overdose, if they mentioned "suspected homicide" and "senseless act of violence" yet, with no risk to the community and no suspect. Doesn't make much sense, unless all 4 got into some confrontation/fight, 1 was armed shot/stabbed 3 of them then off'd themselves after committing this triple murder. Just another average day in 2022 following the trend and increase of people completely loosing the plot....Rip to the victims families/friends...