Love this video! It's my favorite of yours so far! You can tell a ton of time went into this to prep for it. You hit a lot of good points to consider when someone is looking to get back into BMX as an adult. I know when I started up again, I had no idea what the 29" was like. I was only familiar with the 20" from back in the day. The 24" back then seemed huge when it really wasn't all that much bigger. As an adult who mainly just rides on a cruise level, the 29 definitely is one of the easiest and most comfortable bikes to ride. I've really been enjoying the 26" bikes too though and so I was excited to try out the 24". I think you are gonna love that Monza when it gets there. Man, that pump track looks awesome! There is talk on our island about building one and I've reached out to the people in charge to let them know I'd like to help out with that. Looking forward to the coming videos and thanks for the shoutout!
Thanks so much Kevin! I'm one of those weird guys who probably has almost as much fun researching a topic as I do participating in it. Whether that's about the bikes themselves, or figuring out how to do animations and effects in Davinci Resolve. It's so interesting to hear everyone's takes on the their favorite size for cruising. I still haven't tried a 29", and I know a lot of guys love those. My intention wasn't to start a bike collection, and I think the 24" will be my sweet spot. But I know myself too well, and I'm sure I'll find a reason to add a 22" and a 29" to the stable within the next year or two. Haha. The news about a potential pump track on your island is fantastic! Your offer to help out with the project is just another example of your dedication to the BMX community. I'm sure your bike experience and passion will be greatly appreciated!!!!
Agree that MONZA 24 is exactly what I wanted to get back into biking again. Thanks for this post. It was informational and nostalgic, just very well done!
29 Subrosa is my choice. I’m 6’4 , 200 lbs 45 years old. I’m hitting neighborhood jumps and working on consistent wheelies . Showing the 12 year old how to be a real kid.
This video is so inspiring! Love it! Thank you so much! My 4y son is getting good at riding his Strider balance bike and I'm excited to put up on the streets again to ride with a Haro Pro 24" racing BMX bike that my brother-in-law left at my house last year. I was looking for "BMX seat post extender" and YT suggested this video. I'm 42, ride BMX in my early teens, got back to bikes in the last decade fixed gear trend, went to road bikes, than gravel, but had to sell everything to pay school bills. The 24" BMX is the only one left. Now it's time to go out and make some memories with my kid. Greetings from Brazil!
Karate Kid had a Mongoose Kos Cruiser. I owned a 26" OG. Today I BMX with an RSD Middlechild with a one speed automatic transmission and 4 pot disc brakes. Gearing is 30:14. Trialsy, you betcha since I require that if I am going to hire a bike. BMX tracks in the area, that is where it gets really good! A bike that fits, has the form and function for a 6' tall rider with loooong arms. 27.5 wheels, 50mm rims and 3" tires that are lighter than most 26, 27.5 and 29's out there perhaps many 24's as well. Still, have to love all of the BMX classes that have raced. They are bringing smiles to many faces and making memories like a smile factory! 4130 makes for better longevity and proper frame flex. Tire pressure is key, don't overinflate for the load. When I looked into the OG Diamond Back BMX'rs that were around way way back in their first couple years, prices were an eye opener. Being up in the mountains, I am always on the lookout for more singletrack, preferably engineered and built by the local deer population. Some of the trails the deer have created have such lovely flow and are a hoot! What I can say is, BMX can bring out the best in people! Taking my pit to the BMX track and having a race and cooking up good food to share with out community is an amazing afternoon of good times.
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood The work the deer do is superior to what hoomahns do! My bikes love going dirtin' and playing. They have also been key players in my fight against cancer recently. They are my therapy!
I'm 53. I raced from 1986 - 2000. I'm gearing up and getting back into it. 23 years on the fence blows. Stoked for the 2024 race season. Buying wethepeople Atlas 24"
Once me and my buddies rode to a BMX racing track that was a 45 minute car ride away, and was over a 2 hour bike ride away. We arrived at the track as it got dark. Had to call the parents to pick us up, they were NOT happy. 🤣 Never got to ride the track!
OMG, bringing back memories. The only BMX track in my area was also a 2 hour bike ride away. I had a blast, but only made that trek 1 time because I was a complete wreck after, still an amazing memory!
20" all the way. 41yo 6'5" no problem. The difference is that the top tube, handlebars, stem, and cranks are all longer. The seat is set higher too. No need for bigger wheels
Thanks for sharing your insights. 🙏 Out of curiosity, what style of riding and/or terrain do you ride on most? And what length top tube do you prefer in this setup?
What a fantastic video. Wonderful days of my childhood. We did it all the same way in Australia. “Get home before the street lights come on!” I’ve just ordered my Monza 24 for all of the reasons outlined in your video. Thanks so much 👌
Thanks so much for the feedback. I love it that even though we're across the world from each other, we have similar experiences and memories from back in the day!!!! You're gonna love your Monza 24. If you don't mind, please come back and share your thoughts with us once you've had a chance to give it a few rides. :)
Thanks for this video. I've been eyeballing Monza for several years now. I'm almost 50, had an '84 Predator back in the day with Dia-Compe, Sugino, and Tange accessories, and that 4130 Chromoly frame, and it was the absolute bomb. Now you've convinced me that I need to invest in a Monza!
This video would have been great before I bought the bike, but I figured it out on my own and did right anyway. Im 54 now 5’9” and 185. Went 4130 Chrome moly frame with 22.25 top tube. I live way out in the desert on a ranch, so Im always on dirt. This bike is perfect for jumps! I almost went with a 26” and Im glad I didn’t! But I cant see someone around 6’ being comfortable tooling around city streets on a 24”. Great video!
Thanks for sharing your insights and experiences. Yeah, the 24’s aren’t quite as comfortable for casual street riding (especially longer distances), but they are great for what you described being around dirt and jumps. Glad to hear you’re loving your bike 👊
5’10” 170, I’m on 20” same as when I started in the 90s. I actually live in a city in Asia now and use my BMX to commute 90% of the time. Keeps me in great shape.
Thank you so very much for such a well made video. My husband and I are 53 years old and not your gung ho athletic type. With that said, my husband is wanting to retire the mountain bike era and return to the BMX,. grown up style. Your video broke down the important info points that should be considered when someone is a gen-Xer like my husband and I .Having a cool looking bike with all it's bells and whistles versus what's practical and most useful for my husband's needs. Keep up the good work.
Wow, thanks so much for the encouraging feedback. 🙏 You just made my day 😎 I’m curious to know what he decides to go with. If you don’t mind, please come back and let us know what he he ended up choosing and how he likes it 👍
Thanks for the video. I got myself a Wethepeople "Audio" 22" for my 50th birthday. Back in the day I had a E.T. Factory Kuwahara (which got me beat up a couple of times).
Great video! My first bike as an adult was he Mona 24" with Tuff ll's. Love it! But I'd recommend some spokes if you're gonna jump it. Skyways can only take Maybe 60 psi. I'd buy an extra spoke wheeset for jumps. I love cruising it in the fall. I then bought a 26" Haro, 29" GT Pro World Tour, then some 20" bikes, but my custom build S&M ATF 22" is the best all around for making me feel like I did as a kid. I'm 47 yrs old 5'11" 225 lbs. Love the 22". I chose the 21.625 toptube but wish I would have chose the 22.125. I bought my wife a FIT series 22 and it has the 22.125 toptube an is way more stable on pump tracks. I want the White Monza with Tuff ll's next!!! When I bought my Monza a few yrs ago they only had the 1" threaded headsets. A little creaky. Haha but now that they offer the 1 1/8 threadless... even better
Thanks for the feedback. You make a good point about considering getting an extra spoke wheel set for jumping. Adding that to my wishlist for down the road! Dang, you're quite a few steps ahead of me in our journey of going down the bike rabbit hole. You've got a nice collection there. I haven't tried a 22" yet, maybe that'll be down the road for me too. I have a 20" S&M Dagger. I like it, but it just feels too small. I sort of wish I had gotten their 20" ATF, but maybe that'll be my 22" bike if I ever get one. That's unless Monza comes out with at 22" 👍. And yeah, those white Monza's white Skyways are beautiful!!!
I recently attended an old school BMX race event was held called "Dirtyfest." It was cool to see so many guys racing 26 and 29 inch bikes. I'm starting to see a big move back to 26 inch race bikes (OM Flyer, for example). 26 was the original cruiser size in the late 70s.
It’s so cool that we’re able to attend that event. I saw it all over social media and in some RUclips videos. It looked awesome 😎 lIt does seem like 26” is the sweet spot for a lot of folks.
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood 24 to me is the new 20. I'm still the same height as I was when I stopped racing in 1985, but 20 inches now seem too small and 24 inches seem about right. I'd like to give an OS20 a whirl though. My next purchase is going to be a 26 incher, either Race Inc, SE, or Supercross.
Very well done! I think you covered just about everything you could cover given the length of the video. I’m looking at getting the Monza also. I’m going to watch your video first, but I’m pretty sure it’s gonna be perfect. I watched a couple other videos online and one guy was complaining about the size of the seat post. But those bikes look amazing! And I have to agree with you for the price they’re probably a really good value. I like to wheelie a lot, but I don’t wanna do too many other tricks. I just turned 59 years old and labor and Industries doesn’t pay worth a damn when you fall on your back.lol but I have to say I am really enjoying these videos in the content especially when it’s coming from an OG! I’ll be waiting to see your unboxing of the new bike!
Thanks so much for all the kind words! I’ve had my 24” Monza for a little over a year now and I still love it. The build quality is fantastic and the geometry is great! 👍
Appreciate the information! I'm an old BMXer from the late 70s early 80s and want to be able to mostly cruise, hop a curb, and hit a lift with a touch of air from time to time and MAYBE even race (the track is two hours away). I just wish USA BMX had a cruiser class for 26" wheels; as popular as they're getting. Anyway, 59 years young now and getting ready to start selling off stuff to get my next bike.
Right on! Glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for watching and commenting. Also glad to see you getting back into riding again. Please let us know what bike you pick out. And good luck with the sales of other stuff to fund the purchase 👊
What a great video. I came across a 24 Monza in offer up, but I knew nothing of the brand, but I loved the way the bike looked, so I decided to do some research . To my surprise, I came across lots of positive reviews l. so I decided to go on their site and buy one . I had no idea how much i was going to like the bike. I absolutely love it, and today, I'm waiting on my 26-inch white one . And trust me, these two won't be the last ones I buy 😊
Awesome! I just got that 24” Monza and I’m really loving the size and geometry. It’s definitely lighter and more nimble than my 26”, but still comfortable. So now speaking from experience, I totally agree with you. 👊👍😎
I set up my 26er colony eclipse for freestyle and cruising, gyro, 4 pegs, planetary free coaster. Works perfect for me, I'm in my 40s. I can still do a few flatland tricks and it's fun cruising around jumping curbs. Keep shredding 🤙
So in depth. I've just Acquired a 1998 GT Performer over the pond here in London. All of those considerations went out of the window when i saw it online for sale....saying that, a lot of the things you highlight to factor in are innate in us old school riders not so much the ethical choices as we were kids and fantastic you have put all of them down like this. A longer seat post definitely needed haha. Supercool, stay rad 😊🚴♀️🤘 David 54, Cricklewood, London.
I want one again. Was a semi-pro skater B.I.T.D, always loving and having a bmx 🙏 In the mood for another one. I'm 47, but still good for it 😬👍🏻 Not had one for arounf 15 yrs, but I want one with Mags and a lightweight frame.
Right on!!! While I always loved BMX too, I got way more into skating back in the day, and while I never stopped skating for more than a few years at a time, I went about 30 years without riding a BMX bike and I’ve been enjoying rediscovering it in recent years. Mags and a lightweight frame sound great 🙌
I'm 53 and have owned a jet XL 24 for a few months. I love it however main issues are 1 it's a race bike, it's cheap, it will break easily and the wheels are already showing signs of failure because they're starting to buckle slightly just from dropping off a roadside kerb. Trust me UK kerbs are way lower than in the USA. 2 seat height is way too low. I have to ride it standing all of the time. I bought a long seat post only to discover the seat on the bike is moulded to the seat post so I need a new seat, and I've no idea what type because the clamp is flat not rounded so maybe a MTB style seat will fit? 3 bar height. Way too low. I'll need to fit taller bars. I don't like having to crouch forward all the time. Apart from these niggles I LOVE IT. I bought a 20 inch Hoffman condor 25 anniversary frame and built it up and it never felt right. It felt too small. I also bought a 27.5 MTB and hated the crossbar height and the crouched forward "thing" and the 24 is perfect apart from having to reassess the seat, the bars, and not so much build quality because that is actually great but build MATERIALS and cheap components. What I want eventually? 2020 haro dmc master. Because it's dimensions, paint, build quality, can take abuse etc and the fact it doesn't look like any other cruiser matter. Now to actually find one...... And the mortgage to buy one!
Yeah, a 24” is a nice blend between a 20” and a larger MTB or bigger wheel BMX. I love my 24” for that reason. I’m learning flatland tricks, so I’ve actually been riding my 20” more lately. Those Haros are rad, good luck with the search 👊
Fab !!!!!! So glad I found you man !! Your content was spot on ...and the fact that we both enjoy Kevin and Bernie .....my next bike is the monza for sure !!
Right on!!! Thanks so much for the kind words. The bike arrived and I'm assembling it right now. Spoiler alert... it doesn't disappoint!!! The overall quality is great and the frame welds are even better than those on my 2017 GT Performer and my 2022 Hutch Trick Star Reproduction. It you get one, I think you'll be stoked too!!!
I'm from N. Va. and Hutch was the most amazing bike you could own. I still remember how many hours I spent custom building my Hutch from the catalog, I could never afford one but I was a kid with a dream. Congrats and thanks for sharing!
I wish I found info like this when I went shopping. As a 6'3" guy who got too big for my bmx young. I went shopping for the bmx fun in my 40's. I got no help at the bike shops at the time. It's been several years since I bought a 26". While I bought a good bike I may of made a different choice with better info like you shared.
Thanks so much, it's been fun making these videos and interacting with everyone. I love how those 29" Big Rippers pay homage to the classic PK rippers from back in the day!
Thank you for this video!! I have been wondering. I'd actually narrowed it down to two, and one of them is the bike you mentioned you're planning on getting. So this video came to me just in time 🙂 now I just have to make the agonizing decision between my two finalists and bite the bullet. Either way I'm getting a 24", because I have owned too many 26" bikes and am still nostalgic about riding the 20" (mine and friends' ) bikes that I rode back in the day, and don't want a cruiser but a true BMX either with a classic or freestyle frame. The only problem I have is getting it, since between the two I like the most, one is out constantly of stock (Monza) and the other only comes in black or green (Haro), definitely not color choices I gravitate to.
I’m 6ft and have been looking for a cruiser for years. Or I should say an affordable cruiser. I found a Stranger Things 24” Schwinn Predator for a really low price and snapped it up and I have loved every ride on it. I also bought a 26” Apollo mountain bike converted to single speed cruiser and it’s really good too, and my favourite is my 26” Snap On Klunker. I really like that style, the ride position, and it’s great for cruising and some quick stuff but the Predator is so racy, it feels super quick and carves in corners. I’ll do a little bit of dirt track riding on this one. I’m having so much fun with my bikes now, but my BMX’s are just to look at now. I bought a new BMX and the riding style just sucks man. Low seat, straight bars, nah. High layback pole and bars forward forever!!
Yeah, I definitely prefer the old school bike setups too, vs. The modern 20” bmx styles. Like your Predator, I like how my 24” Monza is more nimble than my 26”… it’s more fun. But I prefer the 26” for longer, more casual rides. Thanks for watching and sharing your experiences. Good stuff here 👊
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood I had a JmC that I got sponsored on in Riverside ca by a small shop back in 78. I only had the bike 6 months before someone else liked it more....I still make the old bmx number plates and still riding, can't wait for this 1
I'm getting back into flatland and thinking of getting either the Haro Ground Master or the Big Daddy Kevin Jones Frame from Hoffman Bikes. Then again, I would love an overall bike where I can do a little of everything. This video is super informative, Thank you!
Great video with all the break downs. Currently riding a 27.5 se savage flyer. Great bike for cruising around. Stuck between getting a 22 or 24 inch next. Looking for something like when I was a kid just for street riding. Jumping off curbs and doing manual’s. I’m 5’10 230 pounds .
Thanks for the feedback! I hear you on the dilemma between 22 and 24. My take is that if you’re looking to emphasize tricks and jumps more than riding, a 22 would probably be the way to go.
24” is just too small unless you’re on the shorter side imo. I’m 45 y/o and 6’2”, so I really enjoy my Fitbikeco cr26 and SE monster quad 29+. Awesome bike actually. Only had to change out the pedals.
Awesome! I’m 5’10”.. I like my 26” for cruising and going longer distances, but I think the 24” is a bit more fun at the pump track. And I’m starting to get into flatland on a 20”… I can’t imagine using a big bike for that. It’s fun having options 👍
Ha great video, exactly what I was looking for, been looking around for a cruiser to ride to work about a mile away. 24/26 inch choice has been killing be
I'm 47 and still riding 20". My nephew rides a 22" square setup and I like it a lot. That said, anything above 24" is a mountain bike that will most likely live its life being danced on during wheelies. Long live the 20"!!!! My girlfriend pointed out that my $2,400 custom GT attracts dudes like a rare earth magnet.
Thanks for sharing! Yeah, for the avid riders doing tricks, it seems 20 and 22” are still top choices. And the larger ones for cruising around on longer casual rides. I still compare a 20” to a performance sports car, a 24” to an SUV, and 26”+ to a mini van. They all serve a good purpose depending on the terrain, cargo, length of drive, etc. LOL, about your GT being a dude magnet 🤣
Thinking of getting a bmx purely to go to and from work, 10-15 minute ride. I’m 6’1 will a 20 inch wheels and 20 inch frame be ok for me? Or should I at least get a 21 inch frame? Comfort is important but guess it’s as much for the look and nostalgia so since I ride it such a short distance (20 minute ride at the most) lovely video btw 😀 I’m 48, check my youtube out if you like synthwave, inspired and influenced by 80s music 🙂
@@midsummerex if you’re that tall and prefer 20” wheel size, I’d shoot for at least a 21” top tube if you can. My 20” bike has a 20.5” top tube. I’m 5’10” and it wouldn’t be my choice for a commuter bike.
I have 2 29” SE bikes. I love the size but the handlebars I just can’t get used to. They’ve short and way too wide. I understand why they are that way however, they just don’t have the comfort of the old school BMX. I’m planning on seriously looking into the Monza bikes.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I feel sort of like that with my 26” GT Performer, just a bit too wide and too low. I really like the shape of the ones on my Monza, they feel just right. 👍
My cousin is 45 and i got him back to bmx. He thought he could handle the plastic hemorrhoid seat. NOPE! He said he wnts the wide load granny seat now. I replied get the touring seat with the gel cover. But if he wants the granny seat? Go for it! 😂
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, the prices for quality bikes sure have skyrocketed in the last few years. Race Inc. has some good deals out right now, like this 26" with high end parts available at Planet BMX right now. That's a pretty amazing value at $699!!! planetbmx.com/shop/2022-race-inc-ra26-b-retro-bike-w/-bottema-fork-22-0-tt-blue-/-gold.html They have the 26" Haro Slow Ride on sale too for $399. It's not as nice and as retro as many of the other options, but the price is good. planetbmx.com/shop/2023-haro-slo-ride-26-bike-purple.html
@TheNostalgicNeighborhood Just wondering what your height is? Im 5' 6 1/2" and still looking for a cruiser, but confused because its recommended I get a 20.5 Top Tube and they are only available with 20 inch wheels. I know i should go to a local bike shop, but really hate being put on the spot especially if they spend time sizing me up. I just wanna order online and have it done. Thanks.
@@RYAN799 I’m 5’10”. You’d probably be fine on any cruiser style bike, but I suspect you’d enjoy a 24” as it would probably feel more like what you remember from back in the day. But I bet a 26” would feel comfortable too.
Love your channel! Quick question sir, do they make a 24" spoke rim with 1-3/8" -1-5/8" width!? For the Monza 24" that you have!? Again your channel is beyond great! And regardless im sold on the 24" Monza!!
Hi David! Thanks so much for the feedback 👊 Monza currently doesn’t have the 24” with spoke wheels, only the Skyways. I believe they’ve done the 24” with spokes before, but I don’t know if or when they would offer them again. Thomas’s email is on their website, if you shoot him an email, I bet he’d have the scoop for you. And if you do, tell him Matt from the Nostalgic Neighborhood says Hi 😎 Thanks again for watching and commenting 🙏
I’m about the same height as you. If you’re looking to just casually ride around the neighborhood while sitting down, I’d suggest at least a 24” and probably a 26”. But if you want to ride more aggressively and do tricks, a standard 20” size is a great option. I’m currently riding a 20” as I’m learning flatland tricks and a 26” when I go on long, leisurely rides.
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood The Subrosa was out of stock so I got the 24" Sunday model C. I have been riding every day and I love it. It's holding up great so far. I'm still trying to relearn to bunny hop.
I’m not familiar with that Ono bike. It seems “OK” quality, not great. But personally if I was going to get a 29” aluminum bike with gears and disc brakes, I’d just get a mountain bike. But if you want this style of bike, I’d shop around. I think you can still find the 29” GT street Performer bikes for around $500 on sale. I would choose one of those over the Ono without a doubt
47 and just picked up a mint 09 UNUSED FIT Bike Co CR24 with race geometry in chrome for next to nothing. I'm going to take my 12yr old son and his DK Sprinter Pro 24 to the pump track and pump it till the track melts! or I pass-out from exhaustion....😃
Awesome!!! Sounds like a great deal, and an awesome way to bond with your son. I hear you on the pump track. I can ride for about 30 minutes until my legs feel like rubber bands. Definitely gotta work on my stamina this year. Have a blast riding with your son! 👊
Great video! Any recommendations for flatland freestyle bike for a tall old dude? 😀 I'm 47 and 6'5". I bought a Stolen Saint 24" a couple of years ago, but I feel like it's still almost too small for me. I know you mention that the compactness of the 20" is key to doing tricks, but as tall as I am 20" bikes are a no-go. (BTW, I also have a 29" Haro Lineage Group 1 RS-1 as my cruiser. I had an '86 Haro Sport growing up, and it's got similar vibes. Though now I'm hooked and REALLY want to get the Radical Rick 26" or 29".) I'd also LOVE to know how you added those gyro tabs to your Performer. The Saint doesn't have them, and I'd really like it to. Keep up the great work!
That’s a tough call. From what I gather, even the tallest riders prefer a 20” for flatland. I’m no expert, so you might consider emailing or calling Patrick at Flatland Fuel (flatlandfuel.com) and I bet he’d give you more informed advice. He’s super friendly. But if your dead set against a 20”, I would suggest building up a custom bike around the 22” S&M ATF frame, with the longer top tube option. www.sandmbikes.com/product/hardgoods/frames/atf-frame-for-22-wheel/ It would be more of a Hybrid setup than a true flatland bike, but might be a good option. If you remember RL Osborne, one of the best flatland riders of the 80’s, he has a 20” ATF that he does flatland on. I built up a 20” S&M Dagger last year for flatland. It’s a great bike, and building an ATF would be very similar. I’m about to make a bike check video on my dagger, releasing this weekend probably. For the Performer gyro tabs, I drilled holes and then cut the threads with a tap and die kit. Maybe $20 to $25 total in the bit and tapping set. I made a test hole on an old mountain bike and it was much easier than it looked. There are a couple RUclips videos out there that gave me the basic idea. Let me know if you want more specifics.
If you’re just cruising around the house for short distances, it might be fine. I’m 5’10” and I rarely ride my 20” unless I’m trying tricks. But if you’re more interested in longer casual rides, personally I’d suggest you might be more comfortable on a 24”.
I guess it depends on the bike. If it’s a cheap bike from Walmart that’s truly designed for kids, it might not hold up to adult riding. And the geometry might be off too. But there are plenty of 24” bikes that work great for adults out there too 👍
Thanks for the video and information. Very concise and well put together. Edit: Question did you consider the So Cal Flyer 24" BMX Bike in your selection of 24in options? If you did what was your impression of it? I'm torn between the So Cal and the Monza. Thanks for your reply. Cheers mate.
Thanks for watching and the comments. The SoCal Flyer is a great option. It has quality components like double wall rims and 3 piece cranks. SE has a great reputation, so the value is there. I haven’t ridden one or seen one in person, so it’s hard for me to compare the ride/feel between the two, but the Monza’s top tube is about an inch longer and the bars have a taller rise. Depending on your size, you may find the Monza roomier and more comfortable. The Monza comes with a front brake and the SE doesn’t. The SE comes with pegs, the Monza doesn’t. Some people don’t want one or the other, both can be purchased later, so that’s a personal preference. I love the mags on the Monza, but others prefer spokes. Personally, I like the geometry better on the Monza, I like that it resembles an old school 80s bike more than the SE. And I like that Monza is a smaller brand that’s more of my style. The SE brand seems to be more focused on the wheelie guys, who are awesome, just not my personal style. So yeah, the SoCal Flyer is awesome, but for me, the Monza is a slightly better fit. 👊 Very curious about what you decide to go with and how you like it. 👍
I am getting a 22”or 24” soon my bike got stolen (87 schwinn predator) I miss it gotta get something else (edit) I am 35 by the way and never stopped riding.
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood it takes 40 minutes with bike to get to work and I also want to cruise around in my free time, learn some tricks here and there and my budget is anything since I can pay for it monthly rather than full price instantly
@@bearserker2001 If you’re going to be doing 40 minute rides for transportation, given your height, I’d shy away from anything smaller than 26” and would probably look at 29” first. And then something with smoother tires vs. knobby/race tires for dirt. The SE Big Ripper would be a good choice. www.sebikes.com/products/big-ripper-29-23 Also, a 29” GT Pro Performer gtbicycles.com/collections/big-wheel-bmx-bikes/products/pro-performer-29?variant=46480934666537 Of course you could look at contemporary brands like the Stolen Max. www.stolenbmx.com/products/2022-max-29 But I’d encourage you to check out a Big Ripper 👍
I built a 20" with a 21.5-inch top tube frame made by Bombshell, which I bought used for 150 bucks. I admit my very cheap bike is badass after my kind of finish detailing and color themes. I would rather ride my badass made-in-USA BMX than ride an ugly folding bike that will probably break the first curb I jump. I'm a little guy the 20.5 inch top tube bike felt a little small but this size of frame is almost too big for me. It's amazing how much difference an inch makes. I'm keeping it I will get used to it. When I was a kid Schwinn Stingrays were the toughest bikes, that's what we used.
I think every bike I owned is one that I took down to the metal and put brand new bearings in it except for a Gary Fisher I bought new. I put a gas motor on a 79 Schwinn road bike, the motor was the right size but it was too fast to be legal, I had it going about 45mph with just the motor not pedaling. 30mph is the limit. Now I'm doing a BMX and I might do a Schwinn tricycle next year. My uncle had a bike shop he would fix whatever I got to go through hundreds of his bikes and pick one. I didn't pick something worth a lot of money like titanium frames but I got something nice, I gave it new bearings and paint.
My 20” has a 20.5” top tube, and it feels a little small too. I built it up for flatland freestyle and it’s a little large for that. I sort have wished I had gone smaller specifically for flatland, since it feels a little small to me for riding up at the pump track. I think trying to go in between was a mistake. Not a big deal, but just thinking about how I agree with you on just how much difference an inch can make. Sounds like you built a cool bike 👊
I’m 30 I rode park street and flat land for 10/19 years old I won a few comps and achieved abit I could of gone somwhere savage that work and life got in the way , I just brought a 26 inch jump bike I wanted a 20 but I can face that I’m 30 years old and tricks are a young man’s game peg manuals and 180 fakies and crusing is what I’m gonna be doing best thing I did was buying another bike
That’s so rad!!!! I ride my 26” the most, but I have a 20” setup for flatland. I was never that good at flatland back in the day, but it’s been fun revisiting it as a 49 year old. There are some really talented flatland riders here in St. Louis and they’ve been giving me some tips and encouragement. 👍
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood yeah I want another 20inch but I just won’t ride it , luckily I’m from the UK and the legendary southsea skatepark and the main man eframe catlow was my flatland teacher so I have allways been a fan and avid flat lander even tho I would mainly ride street with a group of friends the flat land helped me develop much more complex lines and tricks in park and street I thing all round riders are more satisfying to watch but I’m just watching now , I did a 40ft peg manual down the hill the other day and jumped down a 3 set of stairs on my 26 and I got the massive smile on my face
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood fair play to you for jumping on a bmx at 49 one thing I will say is just be careful with the tricks they are a young man’s game and that’s coming from a 30 year old 😂 much respect bro thankyou for comment back
@@48Volts Right on! I hear you, but I don’t plan on trying anything too crazy. Here’s a short video from the last session with those guys. Believe it or not, there is only one guy in that group who is younger than me 🤯 They captured my very first foot jam tail whip at the end of the video 🤣 ruclips.net/video/iNjjH01dyUs/видео.htmlsi=wp5cjaDkz3FJC6XQ
Height is definitely a factor. Depending on the style of riding and terrain, sometimes frame geometry (especially a longer top tube) makes a huge difference, in other cases, riders compensate with things like seat position, longer cranks (180mm), stem with a longer reach, handle bar angle, etc.
So I just got the Monza 24”, and I couldn’t agree more about the snappy maneuverability. I’ll still enjoy my 26” for longer and more casual rides, but the 24” is more fun because, like you said, it retains more of the BMX feeling we remember as kids. 😎
You’re right! I guess I left it out because I somehow never saw BMX Bandits until I was an adult. But yeah, that one’s such a classic too. So cheesy, but so awesome 🙌
Cool video with nice edits!! I have my 2009 intense pro 24... Bought it brand 🆕 from Dan's Comp online still have it in great condition, I'd like to get a Monza 26" just to try it out I've NEVER ridden a 26" BMX 🤔
Thanks so much for the feedback, I really appreciate it! I'm loving my 24" right now. And the Monza quality in general is great. Even though I have a 26" GT Performer, I sort of want to get a 26" Monza just to see how they compare. I'm betting that the geometry on the 26" Monza will make for a better ride than the GT. Hmm...
I just got a hi-ten bmx with single wall rims, will be upgrading everything over time but would it (specifically the wheels) hold up long from small stairsets and 3-4ft drops with a 150lbs rider?
Since you’re on the lighter side, they would probably hold up OK if you’re landing clean and not banging them on curbs or landing crooked with lateral force on impact. Those bigger 3-4 drops will probably take their toll though.
I just bought a very nice bike from well-known and respected American company. When I unboxed it and started putting it together one thing that quickly caught my eye was a sticker on the underside of the bottom bracket that read, "MADE IN MALAYSIA". It's a very nice bike, but I spent 20 years as a proud union electrician and when I spend my hard-earned money on a well-known American classic product, I am a bit disappointed to find out that this well-respected American company has sold out to the lowest bidder. Has anybody else lost their job because their employer sold your job to a foreign company to turn a profit for the executives. Those executives seem to have forgotten that they started out welding frames and packing bearings at one time to. Americans need jobs. Make American bikes in America by American workers.
I don’t know of too many well known bike companies that still weld their frames in the USA. S&M does, but on a large scale, I’m not sure who else does.
Love this video! It's my favorite of yours so far! You can tell a ton of time went into this to prep for it. You hit a lot of good points to consider when someone is looking to get back into BMX as an adult. I know when I started up again, I had no idea what the 29" was like. I was only familiar with the 20" from back in the day. The 24" back then seemed huge when it really wasn't all that much bigger. As an adult who mainly just rides on a cruise level, the 29 definitely is one of the easiest and most comfortable bikes to ride. I've really been enjoying the 26" bikes too though and so I was excited to try out the 24". I think you are gonna love that Monza when it gets there. Man, that pump track looks awesome! There is talk on our island about building one and I've reached out to the people in charge to let them know I'd like to help out with that. Looking forward to the coming videos and thanks for the shoutout!
Thanks so much Kevin! I'm one of those weird guys who probably has almost as much fun researching a topic as I do participating in it. Whether that's about the bikes themselves, or figuring out how to do animations and effects in Davinci Resolve.
It's so interesting to hear everyone's takes on the their favorite size for cruising. I still haven't tried a 29", and I know a lot of guys love those. My intention wasn't to start a bike collection, and I think the 24" will be my sweet spot. But I know myself too well, and I'm sure I'll find a reason to add a 22" and a 29" to the stable within the next year or two. Haha.
The news about a potential pump track on your island is fantastic! Your offer to help out with the project is just another example of your dedication to the BMX community. I'm sure your bike experience and passion will be greatly appreciated!!!!
shout out to all riders aged 40+!!!
Word! 🙌 👊 😎
Here I am sir
Im 80 i love my bmx
Send it Brothers!
@@IamAwesomeokI'm 91....still going strong ....😂
Agree that MONZA 24 is exactly what I wanted to get back into biking again. Thanks for this post. It was informational and nostalgic, just very well done!
Right on! Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and commenting 🙏🙏🙏
29 Subrosa is my choice. I’m 6’4 , 200 lbs 45 years old. I’m hitting neighborhood jumps and working on consistent wheelies . Showing the 12 year old how to be a real kid.
💯 “Showing the 12 year old how to be a real kid” I love it. We need more of this in the world 👊
@@JAYBODDY spot on that’s what I’m doing I’m 30 on a 26 inch jump bike riding street I’m showing these kids how it’s don’t
This video is so inspiring! Love it! Thank you so much! My 4y son is getting good at riding his Strider balance bike and I'm excited to put up on the streets again to ride with a Haro Pro 24" racing BMX bike that my brother-in-law left at my house last year. I was looking for "BMX seat post extender" and YT suggested this video. I'm 42, ride BMX in my early teens, got back to bikes in the last decade fixed gear trend, went to road bikes, than gravel, but had to sell everything to pay school bills. The 24" BMX is the only one left. Now it's time to go out and make some memories with my kid. Greetings from Brazil!
I love it!!! Hope you have a blast riding with your son. 💥 🙌
Karate Kid had a Mongoose Kos Cruiser. I owned a 26" OG. Today I BMX with an RSD Middlechild with a one speed automatic transmission and 4 pot disc brakes. Gearing is 30:14. Trialsy, you betcha since I require that if I am going to hire a bike. BMX tracks in the area, that is where it gets really good! A bike that fits, has the form and function for a 6' tall rider with loooong arms. 27.5 wheels, 50mm rims and 3" tires that are lighter than most 26, 27.5 and 29's out there perhaps many 24's as well. Still, have to love all of the BMX classes that have raced. They are bringing smiles to many faces and making memories like a smile factory! 4130 makes for better longevity and proper frame flex. Tire pressure is key, don't overinflate for the load.
When I looked into the OG Diamond Back BMX'rs that were around way way back in their first couple years, prices were an eye opener.
Being up in the mountains, I am always on the lookout for more singletrack, preferably engineered and built by the local deer population. Some of the trails the deer have created have such lovely flow and are a hoot!
What I can say is, BMX can bring out the best in people! Taking my pit to the BMX track and having a race and cooking up good food to share with out community is an amazing afternoon of good times.
Oh wow, thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences. Trails engineered and built by the local deer population. 🤣 I love it!!! 🙌
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood The work the deer do is superior to what hoomahns do! My bikes love going dirtin' and playing. They have also been key players in my fight against cancer recently. They are my therapy!
I'm 53. I raced from 1986 - 2000.
I'm gearing up and getting back into it. 23 years on the fence blows.
Stoked for the 2024 race season.
Buying wethepeople Atlas 24"
How cool 🙌 I love to hear it. Good luck in 24 🏁 👊
Ok. You bought the atlas 24”
What’s your height and weight?
I’m 6’ 1” 250 pounds so I’m getting back to riding to get down to 200-215 pounds.
Once me and my buddies rode to a BMX racing track that was a 45 minute car ride away, and was over a 2 hour bike ride away. We arrived at the track as it got dark. Had to call the parents to pick us up, they were NOT happy. 🤣 Never got to ride the track!
Haha! What a bummer, it makes for a great story now! 🤣
OMG, bringing back memories. The only BMX track in my area was also a 2 hour bike ride away. I had a blast, but only made that trek 1 time because I was a complete wreck after, still an amazing memory!
Just took me down memory lane. Ive been wanting ti get a new bike, now I NEED to get a new bike.
Right on!!! Let us know what you decide to go with 👊
20" all the way. 41yo 6'5" no problem. The difference is that the top tube, handlebars, stem, and cranks are all longer. The seat is set higher too. No need for bigger wheels
Thanks for sharing your insights. 🙏 Out of curiosity, what style of riding and/or terrain do you ride on most? And what length top tube do you prefer in this setup?
I came to say the same. 20" is the only way to go. Now, I am smaller than most guys, 5'10" , so maybe that helps. But nothing feels like a 20".
I’m 37 and I have a Sunday Model C (24”) for social group rides and a Sunday Soundwave (20”) for park and track riding ✊🏼 Ride til you die ⚡️
What a fantastic video. Wonderful days of my childhood. We did it all the same way in Australia. “Get home before the street lights come on!” I’ve just ordered my Monza 24 for all of the reasons outlined in your video. Thanks so much 👌
Thanks so much for the feedback. I love it that even though we're across the world from each other, we have similar experiences and memories from back in the day!!!! You're gonna love your Monza 24. If you don't mind, please come back and share your thoughts with us once you've had a chance to give it a few rides. :)
Thanks for this video. I've been eyeballing Monza for several years now. I'm almost 50, had an '84 Predator back in the day with Dia-Compe, Sugino, and Tange accessories, and that 4130 Chromoly frame, and it was the absolute bomb. Now you've convinced me that I need to invest in a Monza!
Awesome!!! Monza’s are a great choice 🙌
I just bought a 24” Predator, which takes me way back to our childhood.
Awesome!!!! I hope you have a blast with it!!! 💥🙌
I just got the same bike, team24 and love it
How do you like that 24" Predator? Is that the re-release with the hi-ten steel frame? Thanks
@@dustinsegers4534 it's a good starting point, frame and forks are nice I have replaced the seat and stem,the stem will be a Monza stem
I had a 86 Predator, now I can have a Predator 2.0 bitchin!!
Great choice! I've been eyeing the 26 inch Monza. I purchased a Kink Drifter a couple of years ago and it's been a solid bike.
Thanks! I’m really digging these Monza bikes and the company itself. I’d love to hear what you think of the 26” if you end up picking one up 👊🏼
Owned a bmx diamond back joker back in the 90's loved that bike
That’s awesome. I love it!!
This video would have been great before I bought the bike, but I figured it out on my own and did right anyway. Im 54 now 5’9” and 185. Went 4130 Chrome moly frame with 22.25 top tube. I live way out in the desert on a ranch, so Im always on dirt. This bike is perfect for jumps! I almost went with a 26” and Im glad I didn’t! But I cant see someone around 6’ being comfortable tooling around city streets on a 24”. Great video!
Thanks for sharing your insights and experiences. Yeah, the 24’s aren’t quite as comfortable for casual street riding (especially longer distances), but they are great for what you described being around dirt and jumps. Glad to hear you’re loving your bike 👊
5’10” 170, I’m on 20” same as when I started in the 90s. I actually live in a city in Asia now and use my BMX to commute 90% of the time. Keeps me in great shape.
That’s so awesome!!! I love to hear it 🙌
Thank you so very much for such a well made video. My husband and I are 53 years old and not your gung ho athletic type. With that said, my husband is wanting to retire the mountain bike era and return to the BMX,. grown up style. Your video broke down the important info points that should be considered when someone is a gen-Xer like my husband and I .Having a cool looking bike with all it's bells and whistles versus what's practical and most useful for my husband's needs. Keep up the good work.
Wow, thanks so much for the encouraging feedback. 🙏 You just made my day 😎 I’m curious to know what he decides to go with. If you don’t mind, please come back and let us know what he he ended up choosing and how he likes it 👍
Peewee’s bike takes the cake! Can’t top that one!
💯 Absolutely! It’s, “the best bike in the whole world! Haha!” (I imagine myself saying that in a Pee Wee voice 🤣)
Thanks for the video. I got myself a Wethepeople "Audio" 22" for my 50th birthday. Back in the day I had a E.T. Factory Kuwahara (which got me beat up a couple of times).
Happy Birthday! That bike sounds awesome 🙌 Those Kuwahara’s were so rad!!!
Great video! My first bike as an adult was he Mona 24" with Tuff ll's. Love it! But I'd recommend some spokes if you're gonna jump it. Skyways can only take Maybe 60 psi. I'd buy an extra spoke wheeset for jumps. I love cruising it in the fall. I then bought a 26" Haro, 29" GT Pro World Tour, then some 20" bikes, but my custom build S&M ATF 22" is the best all around for making me feel like I did as a kid. I'm 47 yrs old 5'11" 225 lbs. Love the 22". I chose the 21.625 toptube but wish I would have chose the 22.125. I bought my wife a FIT series 22 and it has the 22.125 toptube an is way more stable on pump tracks. I want the White Monza with Tuff ll's next!!! When I bought my Monza a few yrs ago they only had the 1" threaded headsets. A little creaky. Haha but now that they offer the 1 1/8 threadless... even better
Thanks for the feedback. You make a good point about considering getting an extra spoke wheel set for jumping. Adding that to my wishlist for down the road! Dang, you're quite a few steps ahead of me in our journey of going down the bike rabbit hole. You've got a nice collection there. I haven't tried a 22" yet, maybe that'll be down the road for me too. I have a 20" S&M Dagger. I like it, but it just feels too small. I sort of wish I had gotten their 20" ATF, but maybe that'll be my 22" bike if I ever get one. That's unless Monza comes out with at 22" 👍. And yeah, those white Monza's white Skyways are beautiful!!!
I've been wanting to try a 22, can't find anywhere close to test ride one
@@BerserkerNick Ray's Indoor MTB park.
Cleveland, OH
Good old days still never got my vampire garbage pail kid.just got me retro 83 bmx. Yea I'm 46 and still got that kid inside👍🏼👍🏼
Right on!!!! Keep that kid inside alive and well 🙌👊
I recently attended an old school BMX race event was held called "Dirtyfest." It was cool to see so many guys racing 26 and 29 inch bikes. I'm starting to see a big move back to 26 inch race bikes (OM Flyer, for example). 26 was the original cruiser size in the late 70s.
It’s so cool that we’re able to attend that event. I saw it all over social media and in some RUclips videos. It looked awesome 😎 lIt does seem like 26” is the sweet spot for a lot of folks.
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood
24 to me is the new 20. I'm still the same height as I was when I stopped racing in 1985, but 20 inches now seem too small and 24 inches seem about right. I'd like to give an OS20 a whirl though. My next purchase is going to be a 26 incher, either Race Inc, SE, or Supercross.
@@IDONTCAREWYT Love it! Once you get the 26", let us know what you think of the bike you went with. 👍
I prefer the 26”
Very well done! I think you covered just about everything you could cover given the length of the video. I’m looking at getting the Monza also. I’m going to watch your video first, but I’m pretty sure it’s gonna be perfect. I watched a couple other videos online and one guy was complaining about the size of the seat post. But those bikes look amazing! And I have to agree with you for the price they’re probably a really good value. I like to wheelie a lot, but I don’t wanna do too many other tricks. I just turned 59 years old and labor and Industries doesn’t pay worth a damn when you fall on your back.lol but I have to say I am really enjoying these videos in the content especially when it’s coming from an OG! I’ll be waiting to see your unboxing of the new bike!
Thanks so much for all the kind words! I’ve had my 24” Monza for a little over a year now and I still love it. The build quality is fantastic and the geometry is great! 👍
Appreciate the information! I'm an old BMXer from the late 70s early 80s and want to be able to mostly cruise, hop a curb, and hit a lift with a touch of air from time to time and MAYBE even race (the track is two hours away). I just wish USA BMX had a cruiser class for 26" wheels; as popular as they're getting. Anyway, 59 years young now and getting ready to start selling off stuff to get my next bike.
Right on! Glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for watching and commenting. Also glad to see you getting back into riding again. Please let us know what bike you pick out. And good luck with the sales of other stuff to fund the purchase 👊
Im almost 60 now and love the 24” bikes, they have the mobility of the BMX with the comfort of larger wheels.
Well said. Even though Im about 10 years younger than you, I feel the same way 👊
Yes sir, come one down to the bmx round up in ATX 🙌🏽🤠👊🏽
Can't make it this year, but maybe next time! It sure seems like you Texas guys have a super thriving BMX community down there. Love it!!!
Picked up a 22” Subrosa Malum a couple years ago, all black WITH the Van Halen striped donuts on the grips.
Awesome, and I'm loving the idea Van Halen donuts on the grips. Gotta add those extra bits of flair!
What a great video. I came across a 24 Monza in offer up, but I knew nothing of the brand, but I loved the way the bike looked, so I decided to do some research . To my surprise, I came across lots of positive reviews l. so I decided to go on their site and buy one . I had no idea how much i was going to like the bike. I absolutely love it, and today, I'm waiting on my 26-inch white one . And trust me, these two won't be the last ones I buy 😊
Thanks for watching and commenting 🙏 Glad to hear you love your 24” Monza and stoked that your getting a 26” too. Awesome 👊👊👊
As an adult my bmx choice is a 24in racing cruiser. You can build em up to be light, super strong and comfortable.
Awesome! I just got that 24” Monza and I’m really loving the size and geometry. It’s definitely lighter and more nimble than my 26”, but still comfortable. So now speaking from experience, I totally agree with you. 👊👍😎
I want a Monza 24 as well, but color choices on frame, mags, and hardware.
Yeah, it would be cool if Monza had some more colorful options. 💯
I set up my 26er colony eclipse for freestyle and cruising, gyro, 4 pegs, planetary free coaster. Works perfect for me, I'm in my 40s. I can still do a few flatland tricks and it's fun cruising around jumping curbs. Keep shredding 🤙
I love that you’ve found a good balance of cruising and tricks in a larger size that still works for you. So cool!! 👊
So in depth. I've just Acquired a 1998 GT Performer over the pond here in London. All of those considerations went out of the window when i saw it online for sale....saying that, a lot of the things you highlight to factor in are innate in us old school riders not so much the ethical choices as we were kids and fantastic you have put all of them down like this. A longer seat post definitely needed haha. Supercool, stay rad 😊🚴♀️🤘
David 54, Cricklewood, London.
Hi David. Thanks for the feedback. 🙏 Hope you have a blast riding your GT Performer 👊
I want one again. Was a semi-pro skater B.I.T.D, always loving and having a bmx 🙏
In the mood for another one. I'm 47, but still good for it 😬👍🏻
Not had one for arounf 15 yrs, but I want one with Mags and a lightweight frame.
Right on!!! While I always loved BMX too, I got way more into skating back in the day, and while I never stopped skating for more than a few years at a time, I went about 30 years without riding a BMX bike and I’ve been enjoying rediscovering it in recent years. Mags and a lightweight frame sound great 🙌
I'm 53 and have owned a jet XL 24 for a few months. I love it however main issues are 1 it's a race bike, it's cheap, it will break easily and the wheels are already showing signs of failure because they're starting to buckle slightly just from dropping off a roadside kerb. Trust me UK kerbs are way lower than in the USA. 2 seat height is way too low. I have to ride it standing all of the time. I bought a long seat post only to discover the seat on the bike is moulded to the seat post so I need a new seat, and I've no idea what type because the clamp is flat not rounded so maybe a MTB style seat will fit? 3 bar height. Way too low. I'll need to fit taller bars. I don't like having to crouch forward all the time. Apart from these niggles I LOVE IT. I bought a 20 inch Hoffman condor 25 anniversary frame and built it up and it never felt right. It felt too small. I also bought a 27.5 MTB and hated the crossbar height and the crouched forward "thing" and the 24 is perfect apart from having to reassess the seat, the bars, and not so much build quality because that is actually great but build MATERIALS and cheap components. What I want eventually? 2020 haro dmc master. Because it's dimensions, paint, build quality, can take abuse etc and the fact it doesn't look like any other cruiser matter. Now to actually find one...... And the mortgage to buy one!
Yeah, a 24” is a nice blend between a 20” and a larger MTB or bigger wheel BMX. I love my 24” for that reason. I’m learning flatland tricks, so I’ve actually been riding my 20” more lately. Those Haros are rad, good luck with the search 👊
To all my older riders, a sealed bottom bracket and hubs are important
Fab !!!!!! So glad I found you man !! Your content was spot on ...and the fact that we both enjoy Kevin and Bernie .....my next bike is the monza for sure !!
Right on!!! Thanks so much for the kind words. The bike arrived and I'm assembling it right now. Spoiler alert... it doesn't disappoint!!! The overall quality is great and the frame welds are even better than those on my 2017 GT Performer and my 2022 Hutch Trick Star Reproduction. It you get one, I think you'll be stoked too!!!
I’m still riding my 20” hutch judge however I do have a 24” floval which I love
Awesome! Love those Hutch Judges ❤️
I'm from N. Va. and Hutch was the most amazing bike you could own. I still remember how many hours I spent custom building my Hutch from the catalog, I could never afford one but I was a kid with a dream. Congrats and thanks for sharing!
I wish I found info like this when I went shopping. As a 6'3" guy who got too big for my bmx young. I went shopping for the bmx fun in my 40's. I got no help at the bike shops at the time. It's been several years since I bought a 26". While I bought a good bike I may of made a different choice with better info like you shared.
That’s a shame that the bike shops weren’t more helpful to you. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I’m 31 next month and I’ve seen those videos. Yet I’m 54 and going for a 26 idk Standard trail boss or DJ
Nice! Those movies are definitely worth a watch! Happy early birthday 🎉
I decided to go with a Haro Hoover last year at a great price. I just bought a second bmx that's on its way to me, and it's a kink switch.
Awesome!!! Enjoy the second BMX 🙌
Great video. I got a few of the newer SE bikes. 29inch Big Rippers. Pretty good bikes. Keep the videos coming 👍🏼🚴
Thanks so much, it's been fun making these videos and interacting with everyone. I love how those 29" Big Rippers pay homage to the classic PK rippers from back in the day!
Thank you for this video!! I have been wondering. I'd actually narrowed it down to two, and one of them is the bike you mentioned you're planning on getting.
So this video came to me just in time 🙂 now I just have to make the agonizing decision between my two finalists and bite the bullet. Either way I'm getting a 24", because I have owned too many 26" bikes and am still nostalgic about riding the 20" (mine and friends' ) bikes that I rode back in the day, and don't want a cruiser but a true BMX either with a classic or freestyle frame. The only problem I have is getting it, since between the two I like the most, one is out constantly of stock (Monza) and the other only comes in black or green (Haro), definitely not color choices I gravitate to.
Yes, tough decision! From my understanding, the next batch of Monza’s will be available towards the end of the year. Good luck with your decision!!
I’m 6ft and have been looking for a cruiser for years. Or I should say an affordable cruiser. I found a Stranger Things 24” Schwinn Predator for a really low price and snapped it up and I have loved every ride on it. I also bought a 26” Apollo mountain bike converted to single speed cruiser and it’s really good too, and my favourite is my 26” Snap On Klunker. I really like that style, the ride position, and it’s great for cruising and some quick stuff but the Predator is so racy, it feels super quick and carves in corners. I’ll do a little bit of dirt track riding on this one. I’m having so much fun with my bikes now, but my BMX’s are just to look at now. I bought a new BMX and the riding style just sucks man. Low seat, straight bars, nah. High layback pole and bars forward forever!!
Yeah, I definitely prefer the old school bike setups too, vs. The modern 20” bmx styles. Like your Predator, I like how my 24” Monza is more nimble than my 26”… it’s more fun. But I prefer the 26” for longer, more casual rides. Thanks for watching and sharing your experiences. Good stuff here 👊
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood I’m having a blast with Klunkers now, they’re definitely my favourite new thing.
This and the 808 guys made my decision for a 26in chrome monza. Being 57yr old og bmx racer from the old days of norco,ymca and Kramer tracks
Nice!! I love the 808 guys 👊 Hope you enjoy the Monza! I’m still loving mine.
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood I had a JmC that I got sponsored on in Riverside ca by a small shop back in 78. I only had the bike 6 months before someone else liked it more....I still make the old bmx number plates and still riding, can't wait for this 1
I'm getting back into flatland and thinking of getting either the Haro Ground Master or the Big Daddy Kevin Jones Frame from Hoffman Bikes. Then again, I would love an overall bike where I can do a little of everything. This video is super informative, Thank you!
Awesome! One of my friends rides a Lineage Ground Master for flatland and he love’s it. 👍
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood I hear so many awesome things about the Haro lineage line.
I started on a big wheel, and went to bmx, and I still ride, Balls out! 😅
Awesome! Big Wheel is where the adventure started for so many of us! 🙌
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood you know it dude!
I'm 38. I race a 20 inch pro xl supercross, my park bike is a 22 inch Fit, and my cruising bike is a 26 inch supercross sx250(radaversary #45)
Sounds like a great lineup 🙌 Those sx250’s look beautiful 🤩. Thanks for watching and sharing what works for your different riding styles 👍
Park bikes are also on the smaller side as far as chainstay length etc
Love these Videos! Thank you for the perspective! Should be helpful information for buyers on the fence.
Thanks so much for the feedback. 🙏🙏🙏
Great video with all the break downs. Currently riding a 27.5 se savage flyer. Great bike for cruising around. Stuck between getting a 22 or 24 inch next. Looking for something like when I was a kid just for street riding. Jumping off curbs and doing manual’s. I’m 5’10 230 pounds .
Thanks for the feedback! I hear you on the dilemma between 22 and 24. My take is that if you’re looking to emphasize tricks and jumps more than riding, a 22 would probably be the way to go.
I’m 40, 6’0”, 225, got a 20” cult control and put 11” bars on it. Love it. Had it 8 months.
24” is just too small unless you’re on the shorter side imo. I’m 45 y/o and 6’2”, so I really enjoy my Fitbikeco cr26 and SE monster quad 29+. Awesome bike actually. Only had to change out the pedals.
Awesome! I’m 5’10”.. I like my 26” for cruising and going longer distances, but I think the 24” is a bit more fun at the pump track. And I’m starting to get into flatland on a 20”… I can’t imagine using a big bike for that. It’s fun having options 👍
Unfortunately, Monza appears to be sold out on all bikes except one. Like your channel!
Not sure when, but they should have another batch coming sometime later this year.
I'm 5'8 and 20 in fits perfectly.
Nice! Glad to hear it.
I'm 511 but only 150lbs. I think 20 w 21tubes should hold up fine
@@jamesadamgleason9471 I have a trail 21 TT with wider bars that's very comfortable and a street 20.5. The 21 should be good.
Ha great video, exactly what I was looking for, been looking around for a cruiser to ride to work about a mile away. 24/26 inch choice has been killing be
Awesome, glad you found it helpful. I’ll be curious what you decide to go with. 👊
I'm 47 and still riding 20". My nephew rides a 22" square setup and I like it a lot.
That said, anything above 24" is a mountain bike that will most likely live its life being danced on during wheelies.
Long live the 20"!!!! My girlfriend pointed out that my $2,400 custom GT attracts dudes like a rare earth magnet.
Thanks for sharing! Yeah, for the avid riders doing tricks, it seems 20 and 22” are still top choices. And the larger ones for cruising around on longer casual rides. I still compare a 20” to a performance sports car, a 24” to an SUV, and 26”+ to a mini van. They all serve a good purpose depending on the terrain, cargo, length of drive, etc.
LOL, about your GT being a dude magnet 🤣
Thinking of getting a bmx purely to go to and from work, 10-15 minute ride. I’m 6’1 will a 20 inch wheels and 20 inch frame be ok for me? Or should I at least get a 21 inch frame? Comfort is important but guess it’s as much for the look and nostalgia so since I ride it such a short distance (20 minute ride at the most) lovely video btw 😀 I’m 48, check my youtube out if you like synthwave, inspired and influenced by 80s music 🙂
I don’t seem to be able to find any bmx with frames as big as 24-28 inch. Will a 21 inch frame look tiny and silly?
@@midsummerex if you’re that tall and prefer 20” wheel size, I’d shoot for at least a 21” top tube if you can. My 20” bike has a 20.5” top tube. I’m 5’10” and it wouldn’t be my choice for a commuter bike.
@@midsummerex 21” top tube on a 20” frame size?
I have 2 29” SE bikes. I love the size but the handlebars I just can’t get used to. They’ve short and way too wide. I understand why they are that way however, they just don’t have the comfort of the old school BMX. I’m planning on seriously looking into the Monza bikes.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I feel sort of like that with my 26” GT Performer, just a bit too wide and too low. I really like the shape of the ones on my Monza, they feel just right. 👍
Thanks for this I have been wanting to get back on the bmx but now I’m 44 😱
I’m 48, so I hear you about getting back into it at an older age 👊
My cousin is 45 and i got him back to bmx. He thought he could handle the plastic hemorrhoid seat. NOPE! He said he wnts the wide load granny seat now. I replied get the touring seat with the gel cover. But if he wants the granny seat? Go for it! 😂
Haha! Granny seat. To each their own 🤣
Good video. Just found your channel. It’s great!
Thanks Jason! Welcome to the Neighborhood 😎👊🏼👍🏼
Pk Big Ripper or Stolen Max .... im just hitting some trails and doing so wheelies
The Big Ripper is iconic!
Thanks for the video. Im 44 and want to get back into it, mainly to get back into shape, but man those prices 👀
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, the prices for quality bikes sure have skyrocketed in the last few years. Race Inc. has some good deals out right now, like this 26" with high end parts available at Planet BMX right now. That's a pretty amazing value at $699!!! planetbmx.com/shop/2022-race-inc-ra26-b-retro-bike-w/-bottema-fork-22-0-tt-blue-/-gold.html They have the 26" Haro Slow Ride on sale too for $399. It's not as nice and as retro as many of the other options, but the price is good. planetbmx.com/shop/2023-haro-slo-ride-26-bike-purple.html
@TheNostalgicNeighborhood Just wondering what your height is? Im 5' 6 1/2" and still looking for a cruiser, but confused because its recommended I get a 20.5 Top Tube and they are only available with 20 inch wheels. I know i should go to a local bike shop, but really hate being put on the spot especially if they spend time sizing me up. I just wanna order online and have it done. Thanks.
@@RYAN799 I’m 5’10”. You’d probably be fine on any cruiser style bike, but I suspect you’d enjoy a 24” as it would probably feel more like what you remember from back in the day. But I bet a 26” would feel comfortable too.
Super useful video man thank you
Right on! Thanks so much for watching and leaving feedback 👊🙏
Love your channel! Quick question sir, do they make a 24" spoke rim with 1-3/8" -1-5/8" width!? For the Monza 24" that you have!? Again your channel is beyond great! And regardless im sold on the 24" Monza!!
Hi David! Thanks so much for the feedback 👊 Monza currently doesn’t have the 24” with spoke wheels, only the Skyways. I believe they’ve done the 24” with spokes before, but I don’t know if or when they would offer them again. Thomas’s email is on their website, if you shoot him an email, I bet he’d have the scoop for you. And if you do, tell him Matt from the Nostalgic Neighborhood says Hi 😎 Thanks again for watching and commenting 🙏
So can I get away with riding a standard bmx bike being 5’10”?thanks!
I’m about the same height as you. If you’re looking to just casually ride around the neighborhood while sitting down, I’d suggest at least a 24” and probably a 26”. But if you want to ride more aggressively and do tricks, a standard 20” size is a great option. I’m currently riding a 20” as I’m learning flatland tricks and a 26” when I go on long, leisurely rides.
47 here just bought the Subrosa Salvador XL. Hope it works out.
Congrats on the new bike. Please let us know how it holds up for you! Hope you have a blast riding it 💥
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood The Subrosa was out of stock so I got the 24" Sunday model C. I have been riding every day and I love it. It's holding up great so far. I'm still trying to relearn to bunny hop.
@@HighPlainsDrifter979 Nice!!! 24” is such a great size for us older guys getting back into it. Glad to hear you’re enjoying it 👍
I have Monza 26..I would covet you thoughts on the Ono BMX 29 -9 speed on Amazon..
I’m not familiar with that Ono bike. It seems “OK” quality, not great. But personally if I was going to get a 29” aluminum bike with gears and disc brakes, I’d just get a mountain bike. But if you want this style of bike, I’d shop around. I think you can still find the 29” GT street Performer bikes for around $500 on sale. I would choose one of those over the Ono without a doubt
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood Thanks for the reply..
47 and just picked up a mint 09 UNUSED FIT Bike Co CR24 with race geometry in chrome for next to nothing. I'm going to take my 12yr old son and his DK Sprinter Pro 24 to the pump track and pump it till the track melts! or I pass-out from exhaustion....😃
Awesome!!! Sounds like a great deal, and an awesome way to bond with your son. I hear you on the pump track. I can ride for about 30 minutes until my legs feel like rubber bands. Definitely gotta work on my stamina this year. Have a blast riding with your son! 👊
Great video! Any recommendations for flatland freestyle bike for a tall old dude? 😀 I'm 47 and 6'5". I bought a Stolen Saint 24" a couple of years ago, but I feel like it's still almost too small for me. I know you mention that the compactness of the 20" is key to doing tricks, but as tall as I am 20" bikes are a no-go. (BTW, I also have a 29" Haro Lineage Group 1 RS-1 as my cruiser. I had an '86 Haro Sport growing up, and it's got similar vibes. Though now I'm hooked and REALLY want to get the Radical Rick 26" or 29".) I'd also LOVE to know how you added those gyro tabs to your Performer. The Saint doesn't have them, and I'd really like it to. Keep up the great work!
That’s a tough call. From what I gather, even the tallest riders prefer a 20” for flatland. I’m no expert, so you might consider emailing or calling Patrick at Flatland Fuel (flatlandfuel.com) and I bet he’d give you more informed advice. He’s super friendly. But if your dead set against a 20”, I would suggest building up a custom bike around the 22” S&M ATF frame, with the longer top tube option. www.sandmbikes.com/product/hardgoods/frames/atf-frame-for-22-wheel/ It would be more of a Hybrid setup than a true flatland bike, but might be a good option. If you remember RL Osborne, one of the best flatland riders of the 80’s, he has a 20” ATF that he does flatland on.
I built up a 20” S&M Dagger last year for flatland. It’s a great bike, and building an ATF would be very similar. I’m about to make a bike check video on my dagger, releasing this weekend probably.
For the Performer gyro tabs, I drilled holes and then cut the threads with a tap and die kit. Maybe $20 to $25 total in the bit and tapping set. I made a test hole on an old mountain bike and it was much easier than it looked. There are a couple RUclips videos out there that gave me the basic idea. Let me know if you want more specifics.
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood Thanks for the advice! Really helpful!
You’re welcome. Happy to chat if you want to bounce around any other ideas.
Great video man. I’m 5’7” 185. Do you think a 20” will be suitable for me? Just cruising with the family. A wheelie here and there.
If you’re just cruising around the house for short distances, it might be fine. I’m 5’10” and I rarely ride my 20” unless I’m trying tricks. But if you’re more interested in longer casual rides, personally I’d suggest you might be more comfortable on a 24”.
Great video. Seems like you did a lot of research fit this video.
Thanks for the feedback!! Yes, a lot of research indeed, but it was a lot of fun too 😎
Can 35 year old adult ride a kids 24inch wheel bmx bike?
I guess it depends on the bike. If it’s a cheap bike from Walmart that’s truly designed for kids, it might not hold up to adult riding. And the geometry might be off too. But there are plenty of 24” bikes that work great for adults out there too 👍
Thanks for the video and information. Very concise and well put together. Edit: Question did you consider the So Cal Flyer 24" BMX Bike in your selection of 24in options? If you did what was your impression of it? I'm torn between the So Cal and the Monza. Thanks for your reply. Cheers mate.
Thanks for watching and the comments. The SoCal Flyer is a great option. It has quality components like double wall rims and 3 piece cranks. SE has a great reputation, so the value is there. I haven’t ridden one or seen one in person, so it’s hard for me to compare the ride/feel between the two, but the Monza’s top tube is about an inch longer and the bars have a taller rise. Depending on your size, you may find the Monza roomier and more comfortable. The Monza comes with a front brake and the SE doesn’t. The SE comes with pegs, the Monza doesn’t. Some people don’t want one or the other, both can be purchased later, so that’s a personal preference. I love the mags on the Monza, but others prefer spokes. Personally, I like the geometry better on the Monza, I like that it resembles an old school 80s bike more than the SE. And I like that Monza is a smaller brand that’s more of my style. The SE brand seems to be more focused on the wheelie guys, who are awesome, just not my personal style. So yeah, the SoCal Flyer is awesome, but for me, the Monza is a slightly better fit. 👊 Very curious about what you decide to go with and how you like it. 👍
Pump track are awesome . I'm riding a 29 big ripper .
💯 Right on. Those big rippers are so cool. 🤩
I am getting a 22”or 24” soon my bike got stolen (87 schwinn predator) I miss it gotta get something else (edit) I am 35 by the way and never stopped riding.
That’s awesome that you’re still riding. Sorry to hear about the Schwinn 🥲 Let us know what you decided to replace it with.
I'm 6´3 and 176lbs, 21 years old and have not ridden a BMX in years. What would you recommend for me?
What type of riding do you want to do (race, freestyle, flatland, dirt, casual cruising, etc.) and what’s your budget?
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood it takes 40 minutes with bike to get to work and I also want to cruise around in my free time, learn some tricks here and there and my budget is anything since I can pay for it monthly rather than full price instantly
@@bearserker2001 If you’re going to be doing 40 minute rides for transportation, given your height, I’d shy away from anything smaller than 26” and would probably look at 29” first. And then something with smoother tires vs. knobby/race tires for dirt. The SE Big Ripper would be a good choice. www.sebikes.com/products/big-ripper-29-23 Also, a 29” GT Pro Performer gtbicycles.com/collections/big-wheel-bmx-bikes/products/pro-performer-29?variant=46480934666537 Of course you could look at contemporary brands like the Stolen Max. www.stolenbmx.com/products/2022-max-29 But I’d encourage you to check out a Big Ripper 👍
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood Thank you very much, I’ll look into them. I really appreciate your help, God bless you!
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood Would 26" suit me? It's more available than 29", maybe it's because I'm in Germany and not in the US
Who remembers the square frame, aluminum hawk ?
I don’t remember that one 🤔
Nice bike
Thanks ✌️
I built a 20" with a 21.5-inch top tube frame made by Bombshell, which I bought used for 150 bucks. I admit my very cheap bike is badass after my kind of finish detailing and color themes. I would rather ride my badass made-in-USA BMX than ride an ugly folding bike that will probably break the first curb I jump. I'm a little guy the 20.5 inch top tube bike felt a little small but this size of frame is almost too big for me. It's amazing how much difference an inch makes. I'm keeping it I will get used to it. When I was a kid Schwinn Stingrays were the toughest bikes, that's what we used.
I think every bike I owned is one that I took down to the metal and put brand new bearings in it except for a Gary Fisher I bought new. I put a gas motor on a 79 Schwinn road bike, the motor was the right size but it was too fast to be legal, I had it going about 45mph with just the motor not pedaling. 30mph is the limit. Now I'm doing a BMX and I might do a Schwinn tricycle next year. My uncle had a bike shop he would fix whatever I got to go through hundreds of his bikes and pick one. I didn't pick something worth a lot of money like titanium frames but I got something nice, I gave it new bearings and paint.
My 20” has a 20.5” top tube, and it feels a little small too. I built it up for flatland freestyle and it’s a little large for that. I sort have wished I had gone smaller specifically for flatland, since it feels a little small to me for riding up at the pump track. I think trying to go in between was a mistake. Not a big deal, but just thinking about how I agree with you on just how much difference an inch can make. Sounds like you built a cool bike 👊
Id personally prefer it too if it was free the Gary turner GT is the best bike Gary still builds them !
Absolutely, they are works of art… but the price sure reflects it 😎
I’m 30 I rode park street and flat land for 10/19 years old I won a few comps and achieved abit I could of gone somwhere savage that work and life got in the way , I just brought a 26 inch jump bike I wanted a 20 but I can face that I’m 30 years old and tricks are a young man’s game peg manuals and 180 fakies and crusing is what I’m gonna be doing best thing I did was buying another bike
That’s so rad!!!! I ride my 26” the most, but I have a 20” setup for flatland. I was never that good at flatland back in the day, but it’s been fun revisiting it as a 49 year old. There are some really talented flatland riders here in St. Louis and they’ve been giving me some tips and encouragement. 👍
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood yeah I want another 20inch but I just won’t ride it , luckily I’m from the UK and the legendary southsea skatepark and the main man eframe catlow was my flatland teacher so I have allways been a fan and avid flat lander even tho I would mainly ride street with a group of friends the flat land helped me develop much more complex lines and tricks in park and street I thing all round riders are more satisfying to watch but I’m just watching now , I did a 40ft peg manual down the hill the other day and jumped down a 3 set of stairs on my 26 and I got the massive smile on my face
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood fair play to you for jumping on a bmx at 49 one thing I will say is just be careful with the tricks they are a young man’s game and that’s coming from a 30 year old 😂 much respect bro thankyou for comment back
@@48Volts Right on! I hear you, but I don’t plan on trying anything too crazy. Here’s a short video from the last session with those guys. Believe it or not, there is only one guy in that group who is younger than me 🤯 They captured my very first foot jam tail whip at the end of the video 🤣 ruclips.net/video/iNjjH01dyUs/видео.htmlsi=wp5cjaDkz3FJC6XQ
@@48Volts That’s so rad!!! Keep it up 🙌
What about height though??? Im 6'2"
Height is definitely a factor. Depending on the style of riding and terrain, sometimes frame geometry (especially a longer top tube) makes a huge difference, in other cases, riders compensate with things like seat position, longer cranks (180mm), stem with a longer reach, handle bar angle, etc.
Pump track is intimidating first dropping in
Yeah, those walls of the corners are pretty steep and intimidating until you realize you just stick to them when you go faster.
20" wheels, something to jump and grind. Longer top tube, more stretched out, 10" bars
That sounds great 👍 👊
I wouldn’t go bigger than 24, you lose the bmx feeling. The snappy maneuverability. Just been riding too long, raced way back for years
So I just got the Monza 24”, and I couldn’t agree more about the snappy maneuverability. I’ll still enjoy my 26” for longer and more casual rides, but the 24” is more fun because, like you said, it retains more of the BMX feeling we remember as kids. 😎
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood exactly
thats my next bike also
Awesome. I’ve had that 24” Monza for about 6 months now, and I’m still loving it!
24 inch is also great if you're in your 40's and you're a very short person. like me,lol.
Right on! I’m also in my 40s… not really short, but I love my 24” too!!!
Anyone recommend a decent FB group for older Bmx fans 😅
There is a group called “Old School BMX” with about 400K members. As far as Facebook groups go, it’s not bad…
Cool
Thanks! 👊
Monza
Yes! 💯 🏅
22 minutes?
Yes… and 34 seconds.
You forgot BMX Bandits with Nicole Kidman.
You’re right! I guess I left it out because I somehow never saw BMX Bandits until I was an adult. But yeah, that one’s such a classic too. So cheesy, but so awesome 🙌
Buy an old school Panda BMX any adult can ride it. Check out Randell Kim Panda BMX on youtube. Panda invented the BMX bike. 1973.
Super cool. Gonna check this out. Are you “the” Randell Kim?
Yes I'm the real Randell Kim The last guy around 80 years old and maybe coming out with the new sport sprint bike, 60 meter drag.
Panda had the first free wheel, 6 in cranks, 120 gauge spokes, anodize aluminum brakes, and much more, i'm the inventor, designer and owner.
20" all day! Go for the gusto. I'm 48 years old 5'11" 230lbs. Haters be hatin!
Right on!!! What type of terrain are you typically riding your 20” on?
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood hey bro.. only on the pavement
Then technology came Had G T Robinson then went to S&m Holmes
I love S&M, I have a 20” Dagger and I love it 🙌
Rad
Thank you 🙏
Cool video with nice edits!! I have my 2009 intense pro 24... Bought it brand 🆕 from Dan's Comp online still have it in great condition, I'd like to get a Monza 26" just to try it out I've NEVER ridden a 26" BMX 🤔
Thanks so much for the feedback, I really appreciate it! I'm loving my 24" right now. And the Monza quality in general is great. Even though I have a 26" GT Performer, I sort of want to get a 26" Monza just to see how they compare. I'm betting that the geometry on the 26" Monza will make for a better ride than the GT. Hmm...
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood yeah I really like the look of those Monza bikes! Total retro throw🔙
@@TheNostalgicNeighborhood yeah you got a nice pair of bikes now!
I just got a hi-ten bmx with single wall rims, will be upgrading everything over time but would it (specifically the wheels) hold up long from small stairsets and 3-4ft drops with a 150lbs rider?
Since you’re on the lighter side, they would probably hold up OK if you’re landing clean and not banging them on curbs or landing crooked with lateral force on impact. Those bigger 3-4 drops will probably take their toll though.
Large front sprocket is for high top speed not acceleration.
Thanks for pointing that out.
I just bought a very nice bike from well-known and respected American company. When I unboxed it and started putting it together one thing that quickly caught my eye was a sticker on the underside of the bottom bracket that read, "MADE IN MALAYSIA". It's a very nice bike, but I spent 20 years as a proud union electrician and when I spend my hard-earned money on a well-known American classic product, I am a bit disappointed to find out that this well-respected American company has sold out to the lowest bidder. Has anybody else lost their job because their employer sold your job to a foreign company to turn a profit for the executives. Those executives seem to have forgotten that they started out welding frames and packing bearings at one time to. Americans need jobs. Make American bikes in America by American workers.
I don’t know of too many well known bike companies that still weld their frames in the USA. S&M does, but on a large scale, I’m not sure who else does.