What the HELL is Elcano & Magellan? (An OFFENSIVE Controversy)
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I don't know why they thought this movie was a good idea
You need to talk about Skylanders Academy
They were probably smoking that nut pack saber
Is any movie you review good
Finally, a true Moana rip-off!
They were dumb to do this, it's absolutely horrible
This movie looks like a feature length ad for a mobile game.
Then it's a kicker game and I die.
J Do lmao it does
One of those cursed ads for mobile games
Ammagon Oh, Gee, what innocent civilization will I terrorize today?
oh my God-
As a Portuguese I can confirm that we are in fact, green in colour
Interesting...
Does this mean you guys are good at gardening?
@@user-fh5ms4wg3w depends. My mom? Mediocre. Everyone else? I done
Azeitonas da Terrinha
Can you give me a history lesson
Looks like El Dorado, Moana, and pocahontas got a little freaky
This is their love child
In all fairness, Pocahontas didn't age will either 😔
thank god im not the only one who IMMEDIATELY thought this upon seeing the aesthetics
@@ShalemAhava I thought most of Pocahontas's faults were pretty clear from the start.
THIS COMMENT MADE ME SCREAM 🤣💀
here's something to understand why we filipinos aren't into this film.
colonizers invaded our country and burned every semblance of our culture and history, made themselves at home, and put us through 500+ years of pain. because of them, we know little of our original language, forcing us to learn the english alphabet and inserting bits and pieces of their own language for us to use. and that's the least most damning thing they did.
now they're trying to glorify those people who started the whole mess, acting as if they're doing us a favor by making this film in the first place.
TLDR, this is pocahontas all over again. if any of you want an actually interesting show that features filipino characters and filipino culture, try Trese. it's an anime, and we filipinos love it a lot, give it a try.
Not only the show, but the original Trese books should also be recommended to anyone interested!
Just wanted to correct you on the 500+ years of oppression. It was only 333 years or so, but your point still stands. Filipinos were put below the Spaniards and eradicated our culture and history.
To be fair this is a Spanish film so I’m not sure why you thought Filipinos would like it.
@@reginaldforthright805 Since when does nationality justify the trivialization of genocide and rape of an entire people?
@@dodgsonwevegotdodgsonhere9970 one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter 🤷♂️ I think it’s fair to say elcano and Magellan were heroic explorers of courage, faith, and daring. Try to look at it from their perspective.
This movie is literally a rip-off of Road to Elderado with the plot of Disney's Pocahontas.
💯
@@viscountrainbows6452 this is big brain time.
Those were actual movies. El Dorado is brilliant, only to be criminally underrated. While Pocahontas is inaccurate, that doesn't mean its not a decent love story with some great songs. Films you can actually enjoy even tho Pocahantas isnt all that devoted to the Powhatan culture. Stephen Schwartz is a total genius btw.
@@mrsinister8978 el dorado is amazing
@@DoReMela yes it is.
To think the Animaniacs song is more structured, historically accurate and interesting than this full length movie...
😅😅😅
so,what episode at 0:30?
Because the writers for Animaniacs actually did research for their shows where needed.
@@Nightweaver1
Agreed unlike the director of alpacoloto.
we're not cavemen tho
As a Filipino...
I am going to stick with El Dorado.
Lol, at least El Dorado showed the audience that the natives were manipulated.
Same
Even doe I don’t know that
Ye that movie was ak
My mom made me stop watching that movie because they said hell LMAO
Yeah me too for both parts
Spanish: wanna know jesus?
Lapu-Lapu: wanna meet jesus?
YES
yes hahahahahahaha!
Underated comment X'D
directors: oh sh*t we offended the Philippines with the poster quick offend the Portuguese
Yeah go offend The portgise if your Satan
@@claireglover1391 portugal doesn't exist!1!1!1!!!!1!1!1!1!1!
@@claireglover1391 did you meant portuguesse
To be fair it's illegal for any western European former colonizer to get offended about anything. They're open targets, like wild pigs in Texas, you can blast any of them you feel like.
@@arthas640
How is it "illegal"? Like, you're gonna get fined or jailed for being offended?
Looks atrocious. The Filipino outfits were not researched at all. I guess they figured one precolonial tribe of brown people looked like like any other. Also just because these were the first Europeans the Filipinos saw it doesn't mean that they were the first foreigners to the archipelago. When the Spanish arrived they noticed that the Filipinos had been trading metals, spices, pottery and other valuables from other sea trading empires like China for decades if not centuries before. And lastly Magellan died because he wanted to show off his bravado to a chief and decided to meddle in Filipino politics. His men left him to die as they watched him get massacred by Lapu Lapu's forces from the boat because by that time most of his crew was fed up with him and just wanted to go home.
true, we Filipinos have a preserved manuscript that shows the ancient dresses. The "Filipino" here looks like damned similar to the Mayans
Damn I didn’t realize they were trading with china
"Fed up with him and just wanted to go home" so even his men hated him? Lmaooooo
@@exudeku There's the Boxer Codex which were filled with illustrations of Filipinos people and other Southeast Asian ad East Asian groups illustrated by Spanish artists. Granted there are some tangents as to how accurate they were, especially their depictions of Chinese clothes, but their artworks of Filipinos definitely shows the movie doesn't resembled them whatsoever.
The fact this men just ditched Magellan during the battle because they were DONE is hilarious
...
In a dark way
WHY DOES HE LOOK LIKE TULIO FROM ROAD TO EL DORADO
Omg he does
I was thinking he looked like Flynn Rider from Tangled, personally.
Because... IT'S TOUGH TO BE A GOD!
@A normal Guy h e l l o!
Both is good
The best takeaway I've gotten from this video is that the first person to actually circumnavigate the whole planet turned out to be a slave who, in the end, not only got to witness his slaver get absolutely annihilated by Lapu-Lapu, but also got to go home.
God, I hope Enrique lived a happy life.
Honestly the story would have been infinitely more interesting from Enrique's perspective.
Lapu-Lapu, a badass man, defending his land to his last breath, seen as a bad guy, **visual confusion**
honestly, the only good thing about this film is that now I want to research about Lapu-Lapu and everything else much more in detail. I'm Spanish and we were never taught about him (i didn't even know about his existence) or anything more than 'yeah so these boats set sail and a lot of people died and then Magallan died and Elcano was the captain and went back to Spain and there were some colonization attempts and massacres and battles in between"
Miriam MP Funfact:
theres alot of misconceptions about lapu-lapu being the one who killed magellan, it was not him but one of his people. He was just the leader
Yandere
I had no idea he even existed... in fact I had no idea who the hell was Magellan... the only guys they teach us about would be the British arriving with the Gayflower... and Christopher Columbus discovering America, while thinking it was India... i mean, what the hell was he drinking besides grog and rum?
@@Dewani90 I guess they were shy to teach because they lost the fight to people that doesnt have armour or guns just swords(Im Filipino so i dont have good english)
Teenager: I wanna watch "Road to El Dorado"
Mom: No, we have Road to El Dorado at home
Road to El Dorado at home:
El Dorado has just as many terrible inaccuracies but at least it’s a great movie 😂
D Double E Nah bro, el dorado exists!
Parker Green just use Netflix
I Snort Ashes r/whoosh
@@DDoubleEDouble El Dorado is supposed to be a mix between Aztec and Mayan while also being its own culture. So, there's really no inaccuracies.
Why the hell would they try to advertise this to Filipinos by making them the villains of the movie
That's like introducing Jesus to a satanist
Like introducing hot dogs as a fruit
Like trying to get your mom to understand the difference between playstation and xbox
It’d be nice if a US company released historically accurate movies about Vietnam and Philippine colonization. Make them animated too!
Bruh, I'm a Filipino btw... (I live in Davao)
as a filipino i have watched many plays that depict this particular part of our history, if i remember correctly. houses before did not have locks because we respected each other's belongings and that woman are treated equally, so when the Spaniards set fire to the houses. if i remember correctly Lapu-lapu said that they were cowards to battle at night when the enemies were sleeping and instead shouldve challenged and fought them at broad day light to show some balls.
@Michelle Yeah, the Aztecs were really big on human rights…
Iirc, I read in another version, he thought to himself that they must be savages from the mountains, (like apes, might I add) doing that in the middle of the night. And then...the rest is history.
As a Filipino, skill issue to Magellan.
@@zackyezek3760 codes of honour still exist in warrior culture regardless of what is done with captives.
I feel like the only accurate part is the green vampire 😎 we Portuguese are all green vampires 👌😔
And here i thought you were pale blue.
@@Raximus3000 no, I think those are Romanians.
Lauren Perfetto No, the Russians are actually all electric blue, they just look paler in different lighting
@@asafupps I thought Russians were red.
What is this? 😂
As a Filipino myself, Lapu-Lapu is a much loved hero. And yes, there was a lot of buzz about this movie in my country.
mobile legends adds to this
Same, I saw the poster of this in an sm mall, and I just went "Ugh oh no"
@@johnncat2277 wait that was released wtf
PREACH
There’s even a fish named after him
came for the controversy, left with a good history lesson
Edit: [insert annoying comment about the likes I got]
Bren Tenkage yes
It's a win-win.
Same lol
I agree.
When a youtuber teaches better than teachers
spain : hey here's jesus
Gigachad Lapu Lapu : no here's a bamboo spear instead
Such a perfect way to describe the badassery of that guy
Lol I saw this comment right at the moment
A Historically Inaccurate Animated film that majorly edits the story for general audiences that isn't made by Disney , now that's a rarity.
*oooooooof*
Shhh don't give Disnazi any ideas.
Sounds like the animated Titanic movie
@@RazorusR3X777 too late, they already made pocahontas
Fruity Cutie we do not speak of that!
Company: oh god we have to fix this poster so it doesn't look offensive *slaps on a dude who looks like an antisemitic political cartoon*
It only gets worse when you discover that one of the insults Spaniards said to the Portuguese during the rule of the Habsburgs was "marrano" (a Jew recently converted to Christianity). I highly doubt the guionists and animators knew this, but still, yikes.
@@MaylocBrittinorum As in pig? Or is it an "original" insult?
I think the fact that you thought of Jewish people when you saw that character probably says more about you than the movie's designers. Lol
@@jeanbethencourt1506 has more to do with how many antisemitic cartoons I've seen on the RUclips profile pictures of weird edgy teenagers, really
@@jeanbethencourt1506 Nu-uh, stop. Go find some anti-semitic cartoons. Look at the cartoons, look at that guy. Look at some of the language used in the movie, look at that guy. Look at the context of the movie and how they handle different cultures, look at that guy. Look at the fact that Spain has a long history of stampin on religions not buddy-buddy with the crown, look at that guy.
Are you seeing the correlation?
All of the characters look like if The Road To El Dorado had toy merchandise that came to life by the souls of the actual characters... /:
Toy Story 5
Except with NO SOULS...
That is an extremely detailed observation that I completely agree with
Jesus christ I low-key thought Tulio was deadass on the poster-
@@shino4242 Toy Story 6
imagine fighting for your land to have a freedom and got portrait as a 'bad guy' 😐
😐
Especially by a guy who had pre-school level manipulation used on him to convince him to kill your entire population
Rules of making a brutal history turning it into a kid friendly animated film:
Rule no.1: Don't Do it
Thank you
This should apply to Pocahontas as well. Sorry if I wrote it wrong. I'm from Latin America.
@@amyd6769 agreed. Unless the plot is interesting and the songs are catchy, it isn’t ideal. I’m with you on that. 👍🏻
actually pocahontas was mostly incorrect as well
Hey Triss! I'll Make You Videos Please!
So no long long holiday
As a Filipino, This was considered as a stain in our history (in our school) because there's a LOT of things that was misleading and historically incorrect... A LOT of people died that day and it wasn't made clear enough and that outraged a lot
@@Spellbook y’all aren’t even trying anymore huh
@@Spellbook
Bait
@@Spellbook which KKK, there are two of em
@@deo. the good one
During that time before the westerners arrived most probably your islets are uninhabited jungles and when native people decided to live there, they are only living on their tiny bubble. Complex society formed when the Europeans arrived and gave you hispanic surnames (which you used to falsely claim you have european ancestry 🤣 but you are 101% austronesian), religion, tax system, education, alphabets, literature, sense of nationalism so that your divided archipelago and people united under one flag. If not for Spain you are one of the province of indonesia and bends 4 times a day to mecca lol 🇪🇸 🇪🇸 🇪🇸
Great, now we have a highly offensive and historically inaccurate rip-off of The Road to El Dorado.
Now with more yikes and less homoerotic subtext and fun.
Sebastian Walker and I’m sure, less memes...
I i :o
0: :O
KougaTintinFan Yeah. At least with Road to El Dorado, we weren’t following the story of historical characters (I mean, Cortés is in the movie, but we don’t really get to see any of his ventures, he’s just a story device for our main characters). Miguel and Tulio are completely made up, and it just so happens that the story takes place in colonial times, that’s it. It’s hard to adapt the lives of these colonizers in a kid’s movie because then you have to sacrifice historical accuracy for the sake of censorship, and nobody wants that.
agreed
im from the philippines and almost all kids have this story memorized in their heads because of filipino schools. and as a filipino,
I declare this movie, OFFENSIVE
Magellan's translator was actually Malaccan slave who was rechristened as Enrique. No local girl stepped up and translated Cebuano to Spanish
Yeah the logic was mind boggling. The tribe never met with Spanish people and suddenly one girl can speak Spanish? Who wrote this movie? Drunk Spaniards?
Needed a cliche romantic interest
@@dakotaadams3418 True, but this is sloppy even with this movie's standards. I had to rewatch that part of the video because I thought I misunderstood something.
They needed to put a love interest somewhere
@@kos2919 you need moana bootleg in your movie bro
Why would you make a child friendly version of this violent story. Its like making a pg version of WW2.
Done and done.
ruclips.net/video/8zjUpjZEqiM/видео.html
There's probably like a lot of those already.
@@autobotstarscream765 Hetalia isnt 100% pg tho, since its for 15+ aged audiences (the mangas and the anime)
Hitler's wacky hijinx
Or giving US soldiers walkie talkies instead of rifles at Normandy.
When a movie is about a historic event but has a comically bad villain in it I assume it's propaganda and obviously not historically accurate.
-*flashbacks in Bolívar el héroe and tiránico *-
To be fair there are a lot of comically evil people in history
@@creed8712 yeah like most of the Roman emperors
AkumaDayo I was thinking more Hitler or someone like Rasputin but they work as well
@@creed8712 they aren't necessarily comically evil as they are stereotypically evil, the Roman emperors have done some weirdly messed up stuff just for fun. Like they were the kind of evil where you're like not sure if they're entirely there in the brain. That kind of mad scientist evil, ya know?
As a spanish person I actually feel so ashamed for what happened in the past and how we stand so proud for what we did regardless Im genuenly sorry to Filipino people
It's okay. Let's all just move forward to a better future.
People conquered other people all the time in history. So why should Spaniards be ashamed of these achievements? It's not that the people of the Philippine islands were warless people dancing around fires every day. What you're doing is presentism at its finest.
@@kogoromori30 yes, because pillaging, murder, and enslavement is an "achievement". Never knew that word had a darker side to it.
@@kogoromori30 I hope you go through the same thing and still be able celebrate your colonizer/rapist/slave-master 🥰
@@wanderer4778 I am the colonizer. So there's no need ;)
As a Filipino, this movie is so historically inaccurate like what the heck?!
as a filipino can confirmed
this level of mockery would be the same as making a movie where hitler is this kind hearted joe who wants nothing more but peace and prosperity in the whole world
@@thatterrariaguidenpc8054 As a german
Please don't make a movie like that
As an Spaniard, im sorry for this shit
ikr
Meanwhile Pocahontas....
“Dammit they still can’t get my nose right”
-Flynn rider
Same, everyone can know🤣
*Spittakes in laughter*
?
those are indeed FACTS
@@Spalbeert it’s because the male in the movie looks like Flynn rider
As a Filipino
My ancestors did not die for this
DAMN! Fair tho XD as a pinky I as well can reason and respect this WAY too much
We Filipinos deserve better
The audacity of these people
Lmao, imagine what our lives could’ve been if we didn’t revolt against the Spaniards...
@@clippygoat Begone, slave
I'm from Spain and I love animation, and I remember going to the cinema, I was going to watch a different movie, but there weren't empty seats.
At the cinema, with my friends, we look out... Is another movie, at these time, at these place... "Elcano y Magallanes" was there.
We stare at the poster, and we just say "it looks boring" "yes, and I don't think is accurate" "ice-cream?" And we left.
Best decision
Why did Lapu Lapu look like a fortnite character on the poster
Lapu Lapu skin when?
I prefer Mobile Legends Lapu Lapu
He's gotta get that dub
Damn he should be a Fortnite Character
Jeiku Hosho What about Raid arrow legends Lapu Lapu
The Virgin: Elcano & Magellan
vs
The Chad: Road to El Dorado
😂
Yes
Yasss
you mean Chel Dorado
The best part about el dorado is that all the white people who watch it with me, the Kiche Mayan, apologize for the colonization of my ancestors. It’s fun to prey on my friends white guilt, only my friends though
*_Clash of Clans, Rapunzel, The Lord of the Rings, the Hunchback of Notre Dame, the Road to El Dorado, and Moana; THE CROSSOVER_*
@Nicolas wait till some one gets wooshed
And Pocahantis (I'll find the correct spelling later)
Honestly, some people might say that us Filipinos are being exaggerated to our outrage, but one can't help but be angry when the hero that fought for our country be portrayed this way.
Not saying that Filipinos were the only one colonized, but I'm sure many will sympathise if their own heroes come off as a villain. And as a quote that I remember, in different perspectives of the victim and the attacker, you can either be the villain or the hero.
(Or maybe they're too evil that even their own countrymen doesn't approve)
Is portrayed like what? Like the guy who killed Magallanes? That's the only thing he did regarding what the film is about. This is not a film about the Philippines, but about the first circumnavigation of the world. The Philippines appears like 10 minutes max. You are outraged by actually depicting your nationalist myths about Lapu Lapu killing Magallanes.
@@goodaimshield1115Did you even watch the video? No matter how accurate or inaccurate this movie was, it’s still a blatant misrepresentation of reality sprinkled with racism
he was a hero that fought for your country as much as spainiards were heroes that fought for europe during the arab invasion or aztecs were heroes that fought for america, maybe even worse. Lapu lapu fought for himself because the spanish demanded he submit to his ally Rajah Humabon, who probably converted to christianism and allied with them precisely for that, he and the battle of mactan are stupdly romanticized. It was all a minor conflict that ultimately didn't change much since spain got most of the archipelago relatively fast anyway.
Like even saying "your people" is colonialist since at the time the philiphines was super disunited with dozens of languages and tribes and like 5 main religions, you were maybe even more diverse than the whole of europe. "Your people" is a concept that exists precisely because of the spanish colonization who united the isles, if it weren't for that you would be 12+ diferent countries. Correct me if I'm wrong but you couldn't even agree to wich name the philiphines should be changed because diferent langauges and ethincs had diferent views that were interpreted as racist by the others and just left it, that's how diferent you were a few decades ago after being united for centuries imagine if no colonization happened.
If you want a "hero that fought for your country" you should look at the people that fought for the independence against USA, japan and to a lesser point spain(to a lesser point because spain didn't put much of a fight since usa crushed them) not a local tribal cheiftain and warlord who managed to win a minor battle against an european expedition that had like 30 times less people than his army.
I was actually surprised when I found out this is about a journey to the Philippines (yeah, I don't know much about Magellan, sorry) because the native characters on the poster look like they're straight out of Road to El Dorado. I mean, most of them don't even look Philippino, they look native American.
YES! im Filipino and history lover so i was realy pissed!
Me too. Filipino people almost look like malay people and they pitcure em like a native american
im filipino but this one is in my reccomendation and i saw lapu lapu as the main antagonist in the movie i was
confused and i dont even know who to trust
Yeah I actually know about Magellan but the design of the filipinos character made me re-think everything and doubt what I learnt about him. I had a "Oh I guess he did some things in central america or something actually" moment.
Just dropping my thoughts and criticism as a Filipino over here. The girl was a babaylan. So she's not just a girl that comes out of nowhere in the 3rd act of the film. She's an important character in pre-historic Philippines. Babaylans are the "messenger" to the spirits because in prehistoric Philippines, they believe in nature spirits and deities. So a babaylan sailing to Spain because of a man is very disrespectful on their move. Babaylans are very important to a tribe. Please for anyone who will be doing historic films, do proper research. And also regarding Lapu-Lapu looking like a villain is very bad thing on their part. They invaded our homeland and Lapu-Lapu and the tribe was only trying to protect the Philippines. Before these colonizers came we have our own culture and women were not looked down upon. Now look what they did? They destroyed a country's diverse culture, art and history because of gold and spices and more territory to flex to other countries.
Edit: Since this has gone (sort of) got a lot of likes, I hope this can be a conversation starter for people to talk about while being respectful to culture, history, and the communities involved.
FACTS KAIBIGAN KO
Tama Ka naman eh
Dapat Magresearch muna sila Bago gumawa ng History Movie....
Ayyy Naku po
Lmao not to mention a few decades later they basically made us slaves in our own country and called us indios (the n word for filipinos before)
And Magellan wasn't even just invading, he was trying to impress the other tribe which was essentially Lapu-Lapu's enemy and flex on him, Lapu-Lapu had every right to attack back lmfao
Babaylan : **exists**
Talim : _hi?_
FACTS. Salamat po dito
the entire movie looks like it was either made in Dreams, or is a really long cutscene in a unity game
True .
And even then I’ve seen better Dreams projects than this. I mean, just look at Elca.
This man is a POGCHAMP
Unity games are actually good
This is why the show Roots still holds it's own as an accurate retelling of historical events. They don't try to cover up any of the brutal gruesome stuff for the sake of "family friendly". They don't paint the colonisers as the good guys. They start off the show with Kunta-Kinte in HIS home, because it's HIS story, and HE'S the hero of the story!
Natives: I don’t want to be Christian
Europeans: Gun go brrrrrrrrrrr
haha gun goes POW
Lol gun go *BOOM BOOM*
GUN GO BOOM
HA COMMUNISM GO BRRRRRRRRRRR
Europeans: so anyways I started blasting
I like how most of that eras travel stories are like,
“I was travelling around the world and I thought I was going the right way... but we got lost... I think? There were natives... we didn’t know what to do about it. So we tried to bully them until they realised they had more people than our voyage crew.”
And was like, but I have guns I should win right? Then gets killed by 10 arrows while reloading
Ya pretty much lol
@@Revanbzn And then they did win.
@@damienthonk1506 not all
@@vf85200 Not all of the specific colonialists won, but colonialism itself won and destroyed many native populations.
I (Spaniard) convinced my best friend (Filipina) to watch this movie together, we were both outraged but still had a good laugh. If this wreck of a movie didn't destroy our friendship, then nothing will.
Anime was right about friendship or something
good power to you, glad to hear some if not a lot of spanish who are in the filipino side in terms of justice
What an amazing friendship, I hope it lasts long!
In some weird way, maybe some of the animators and directors for this movie intended for some cross dialogue between two separate cultures to come about. It’s just…the way that’s panned out maybe wasn’t exactly how they intended. Oh, there’s gonna be a cross cultural dialogue about this movie alright.
What if one of you sleeps with the others significant other
As a filipino, living in the philippines my whole life and having our history taught to us from a very young age(first grade) this movie made me go like "wtf"
Your pronounciation of "Cebu" was more accurate than the entire movie
true HAHAHAH
True hahaahahaha
@@charlotte7015 true hahahaha chain started
True
lol hahaha true
"A port that looks a lot like the one from El Dorado." Saber, they're both in the same city, Sevilla, of course they look the same.
OMFG YOU'RE RIGHT
"I looked through their previous work, and nothing was familiar to me."
Fan translation: "These are more movies for me to review."
I need to see that Mystic one
I know that SaberSpark mainly reviews movies but the way he did that condensed history recap was really entertaining. I would honestly like to hear him narrate more history if he were up to it.
Magellan looks like a fanboy and chum chum character
He looks like budget Flynn Rider 😂
@@LacedWithOreos you're thinking of Elcano you idiot
True
Dont diss Fanboy and ChumChum like that
@@MemeProphet very sorry
I'm so tired of this Pocahontas/Sacagawea trope in movies where an indigenous/native girl shows up whose only purpose is to guide the colonizers and be a love interest to one of them. Also she always has to leave her home because of course she would leave her home to go off with some random dudes instead of stay with her "savage" family.
@Ophelia Tepes they were raped and killed, stop being so delusional
I mean ya that’s how it goes
I know! How terrible that one of the natives is curious, inquisitive, and wants to explore more of the world that these newcomers have just demonstrated existed! Native people should never want anything more than to live and die in the same village their ancestors did.
I want a story where a dude whose like an impressed sailor or indentured servant (basically kinds of temporary slavery) comes to some new land and just decids fuck it. Boy meets girl, boy realizes he loves girl more than he loves Jesus, boy defects and helps the natives kick out the other Europeans out in return for being able to stay.
It might not be super historically accurate, but it think it'd make for an interesting story. Give us a grungier view of the Europeans before they even interact with the natives. Show that the life of many people in europe sucked. I mean a lot of people came to the new world looking for a better life, free from oppressive European society. And show us more of the natives and their culture. Give us more indigenous food and religion. Have some situation where the defector is being taught how to do stuff by the natives.
I mean there was at least one entire english colony that straight up joined a local tribe. So it's not too far fetched.
@@pureevil6047 I believe that's called _Avatar._
Usually, I don’t like social studies class. However, if it was taught in the way Saber showed this, I would be way more interested. It was so neat hearing the true story about this, I had a lot of fun listening and learning more :D
As a Filipino it’s kinda sad how this is the way we’re being portrayed in media (since we don’t get portrayed a lot anyways) this makes me sad
bc uninteresting and nothing to be pulled off either from history or today
Magellan's voyage was the only time Filipinos were truly recognized internationally, since it depicted the death of the one who led the voyage. The only time we were almost close to that same recognition was Manuel L. Quezon's acts in the world wars. It's shit how we're being portrayed yes.
@@matthewbaang8749 I would say EDSA too, kinda
it inspired other similar events around the world shortly afterward
@@zaqareemalcolm Unfortunately, dictator worshippers have rewritten that history so a spoiled brat can be the next president.
Filipino media have done a lot worst tarnishing our nation's reputation than any foreign country. Have you seen the formulaic telenovelas being shat out yearly?
Mom can we get el dorado
We have el dorado at home
The el dorado at home
Bargain bin of a bargain bin!
El Dorado was one of the things that defined my childhood
As a filipino what the HELL but real talk dude MAGELLAN looks like a fan boy and chum chum recall Lol
He does lol
OMG SKSKSKW
Oh my G O D
And as a Brazilian/Porto-Iberian I also think this as Offensive too
Hahaha kanyang-kanya POV lng mga boss
As someone from Portugal: I can confirm that we all look like green malicious goblins
The Madeirana do for sure.
I... I now actually really want a dark HBO series on this where the Spanish scenes are directed and cast my a spanish director, and the Filipino scenes are directed an cast by a Filipino director. That would be cool as shit.
Now I really want that too :0
yoo that would be so cool
Make it happen dude 😌
I don't know if that would work, history is blood deep within us and it would be hard to depict history if the history don't match up or there's something the other party wants to hide.
As a Filipino, I would say we would be really spitting the facts and being shady all about the *shit* we’ve experienced for 333 years with all that injustice, abusiveness, slavery, racism we have experience that without a doubt they have sugarcoated.
Saberspark telling the actual, historical story that this movie tried to tell trough twitter and memes is just *chef's kiss* That's everything I've ever wanted
The actual story sounds better than the movie. I'd watch a dratization of THAT in a heartbeat
@@rac1equalsbestgame853 agreed
@@rac1equalsbestgame853 That's Dramatization.
Robbie Walker I know I typed it wrong 😅
ikr
"Look at this angry, grumpy Phillipino stereotype! He's the villain of the movie!! Wait, you're saying that's really historically insensitive? Um, okay... then... looks at this angry, grumpy _Portuguese_ stereotype instead!! *He's* the real villain now!!!"
I mean, in this situation it's because Magellan was the one who arrived in the Philippines, it was their land so smh
Quoting the video "hey Philippines, remember when we landed on your country and enslaved y'all for 333 years? Here's a movie about it, YEA SPAIN RULES"
Pilipino* btw
@@epiczechachi8328 or Filipino*
@@epiczechachi8328 No greater joy than a correction gone right, and no greater horror than a correction gone wrong.
You know as a Filipino myself, I saw a poster of this film a year ago in a mall theater that wasn't too big. The week after I saw it again, it was shelved behind a dumpster.
Fun fact: I'm Spanish but I've NEVER seen any of this companies works, and they're intended for Spanish audiences!
I'm so sorry for the people of Philipines to even glare at this mess when not even the Spanish knew it's existence
Also another fun fact: I have never heard of Magellan, ever, I'm 21 and maybe it's because I'm on an art career but for real this dude has never been on my history books
@ᜋᜌ᜔ᜉᜄ᜔ᜀᜐ ooooooh that explains everything, my bad
Also wow big respect for Lapu Lapu, the man was fighting till the end at his 70s and then there's me that could be agonizing because my dog slapped me in the face with her tail, how times have changed and not exactly for the good lol
Apology accepted as filipinos we are still grateful for spain for their contribution on our country but that doesn't change the fact that we know our history we know how spain treated it's colonies maybe they treat the philippines worst not as the other colonies.
@@larryjones4760 you are grateful they conquered us and claimed the country and called the locals "Indios" saying that Filipinos aren't the ideal figure of a human?
(Off topic but I love your icon, is it takumi from fe fates by any chance?)
As a filipino, I can confirm that the underwear part wasn't historically accurate.
I think you must have much nicer underwear in PH than standard heart-pattern boxers fresh off the stanky junk of a green man.
Yeah. Lapu Lapu wasn't even a villain at this point. He's just protecting his country since the time Spaniards had been colonized Philippines for 333 years.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 He attacked Magellan because he refused to give tribute. Why would he give tribute to a king he didn't knew? The Philippines as a state and political entity did not exist until the beginning of the Spanish period.
@@mmyr8ado.360 And the reason why Spaniard colonized the Philippines is because they wanted to seek some silver and gold as a treasure. Also, Spain established the country with Evangelism and Christianity. This is where things have changed when the Americans came to educate the Filipinos and civilized them. Americans saw those people as an influence and they're the reason why the Spanish retreated.
As a Mexican, same
Filipinos: (being mocked)
also Filipinos: you entered the shadow realm, paré
must extinguish the heresy
I remember as a toddler my babysitter taught me a filipino nursery rhyme about Lapu Lapu and Magellan
Was it:
- One plus one, Magellan, or
-On March 16, Fifteen Hundred 21?
@@KrabbyPatty99Archive it was 15 hundred twenty one
@@darkmatterburger That's not a nursery rhyme, that's a 1972 novelty song by Yoyoy Villame.
Are you talking about this weird thing?
"1+1 Magellan
2+2 Lapulapu
3+3 Christmas tree
4+4 Bagong bapor
5+5 Voltes five"
@@JcDizon nah .
Additional fact: When they baptised Raja Humabon and his wife, they gave three religious gifts: the crucifix, the image of Mary, and the image of Santo Niño. This is why Santo Niño is the patron saint of Cebu and there is a festival celebrated in the introduction of the Catholic religion, called Sinulog Festival. It's the biggest religious festival in Cebu and one of the most celebrated festivals in the Philippines.
It's interesting because the Philippines a well known country that is dominated with the Catholic religion to this date.
Tama 😁
That baffled me though, if Filipino hated Spanish conquistadors so much why they embraced catholicism that much? I don't remember countries like Malaysia and Indonesia embraced Christianity that much
@@kos2919 I'm a Filipino and I'm not that sure. Though i would guess that it's because we've been a colony of Spain for 300 years and in that time it would've definitely ingrained into our culture.
Also one more thing i just wanted to add, the Philippines has a hodgepodge of cultures ingrained in it because we were colonised & occupied by many different countries. But yet our culture that we are proud of today, is the result of all the different countries that had occupied the Philippines.
@@kos2919 I think that's because Indonesia and Malaysia has already had a strong inclination to Islam which were introduced by the Arab merchants before the colonization happen.
@@kos2919 The Spanish practiced Divide it impera or divide and conquer strategy in their colonial ventures. Basically they took advantage of an existing political feud between the squabbling rajahs of the region. Magellan allied with Rajah Humabon and promised to aid him in fighting Lapu-Lapu by offering their cannons, weapons and manpower. In turn the ruling elite of Cebu were encouraged to convert to catholicism to cement an alliance with the Spanish. It was a conversion motivated by both military convenience and potential political social and economic benefits. Most of the various Filipino ethnic groups however protested this and didn't passively accept conversion. Throughout the history of the island numerous ethnic and religious revolts were waged in order to revert back to the old indigenous animistic religions. These were often led by spiritual leaders called Babaylan. Some notable revolts were the Tamblot uprising of 1621 in Bohol Island, Bankaw revolt of 1621 in Leyte Island, Itneg revolt of 1621, and numerous others. The Filipino masses didn't sit idly by and violently reacted to the imposition of the colonial religion unto the people, since catholicism was associated with the new colonial encomendia order and tax collection imposed on the Natives.
I was not ready for the comparison between Elcano and Finn, but I was even less ready for Magellan and Clash of Clans.
Did you mean Flynn? (As in Flynn Ryder) also, same dude. Magellan= clash of clans shook me
Me: I wanna see The Road To El Dorado
Mom: We have The Road To El Dorado at home.
The Road To El Dorado at home:
Literally what I thought before I saw this comment 😭😂
lol 0-0
fun fact: 4:00 Mummy im a Zombie was on netflix in english back in 2015-2017 i watched it all the time lmao
Historically accurate version:
Magellan lands at Cebu and asks where the windows are. He then hands out toothbrushes and accuses Lapu-Lapu of asking him for money. He is driven out and dies in the West Indies of an unspecified accident involving mayonnaise.
Oh look, a movie people would actually enjoy watching. 😂👍
@Artemis Rose Oh, bless you. 💗
@@autobotstarscream765 Or at least enjoy hate-watching. Unfortunately, the Magellan in this movie had too much neck. 😜
this is propably more acurate than the movie
@@autobotstarscream765 an entire series, let's be honest
When I saw this vid, I didnt read the title and thought "Hey, lets see how this movie royally f*cked up and who they offended" and then I read the title and realized the person they offended was me.
same
i wanna time travel and go back to the time before they even think about this ima say"dont do it if ya do it ur ded"
SAME LMAO
same
Me yes
Also me hey let's start our own movie where Spain ducked us up are you with me Portuguese
Spain: hey here's Jesus
Lapu Lapu: no
Lapu Lapu : Here's my spear
For the record, the Jesuit, Franciscan, and Dominican clergy that accompanied the Conquistadors were VERY vocally upset at the subhuman treatment of natives (there are letters of correspondence between them and the Vatican that go in depth about the matter) but since the church began to back out of politics during the renaissance they couldn't do much since the expeditions were commissioned by the crown.
On one hand people could get pissed that the church didn't do more in spite of this, and on the other people would complain about violating the separation of church and state. It's a lose lose situation, but the church saw Evangelism as the more worthwhile pursuit in the long run. They genuinely wanted to spread the faith, not conversion under threat of violence.
As such, unlike the conquistadors, the clergy STAYED in the colonies rather than coming back to Spain once they "got their spoils". In fact, that's not only a major factor that led not only to Catholicism being dominant in Hispanic countries, but also contributed to Spanish becoming the dominant language. After all, you can't teach the faith if they don't know what's being said or written. Likewise, there are a ton of Hispanic, Latino, and Mixed-Race Saints from said nations shortly afterwards who were readily canonized regardless of race or ethnic background.
It's exactly like the time I went with my friend to his sunday school one day when I was 10.
@@warbossgegguz679 in long term it's still doesn't bring good to the Christianity as a whole though. Younger generations saw what colonialists did to their ancestors and shy away from Christianity. That's also contributed to the raise of atheism in current era
Philippines now: JESUS
Ngl when I first saw the character models the first thing that came to mind was Sea of Thieves with the smooth and cartoony textures. Even the boats and the water looked like it came from Sea of Thieves a little bit. (Obviously Sea of Thieves had better water effects and boat models, but you get what I’m saying if you’ve played the game.)
This movie looks like a mobile game ad
He said that at 7:57
Christopher Wallace nah he just said the guy looked like a person in a mobile game
It honestly does
The comment above you said almost the exact thing XD popular opinion i guess?
Rareinsults
As a Filipino myself this movie just makes me go “oh god no”
Oh god no indeed
My Pinoy, why you acting like you care?
Oh Gordon Ramsey no no no no-
Lmao same
same omg oh god
As a Filipino history lover, this is historically inaccurate:
1) no spy guy from portugese
2) since ottoman blocked the main route for trading, magellan wants to work for portugese but portugese declined and magellan was forced to ask spain for assistance
3) they didnt blow up their ship. I think its because someone poisoned the whole crew (not sure about this one)
4) there was no portugese vs spain action
Sorry if i there is some false information, i forgot some of it because i havent studied the philippine history for years now. Also, sorry if my grammar is not correct (English is my 2nd language).
There was a little portuguese vs Spanish action.
One of the ships that got lost was captured by the portuguese and their crew was arrested.
In my opinion, your grammar is great! It's amazing that you even understand this stupid language AND your grammar is still better than mine, and English is my 1st language lol
@@callmeceleste7070 I'm not sure it's very nice to call a language stupid after this person took so long to learn it. Kinda diminishes his achievement.
Obviously this is not 100% historically accurate this is a child cartoon y'all 🤦
@@CalloftheBlademaster they’re not saying it’s stupid, they’re just saying the English language is very difficult to learn and has many grammatical and spelling flaws :)
The spaniards are the true villains .. the natives are living peacefully that time, and they arrive and claimed that the whole archipelago is theirs.
Well by peacefully, there were still a few tribe battles here and there.
@Michelle Still not living peacefully. Believe it or not, native people were capable of violence and warfare.
Belief in the noble savage is pretty cringe.
a yes the classic a few dozen chad europeans subdued millions of pacifist natives that never did anything bad and also were a single unit and not dozens of diferent cultures that waged war and tradeed with each other. It's not like lapu lapu had a known rivalry with the spanish allied Rajah Humabon and that was the reason of the battle that killed magallanes.
This movie screams "Let's see how much we can offend Filipino Historians"
I watched the trailer for this film (for research paper reasons), and Lapu-Lapu WAS shown in the trailer, except all of his "lines" were just grunts and a bunch of angry gibberish (I'm Filipino and none of those words sounded anything close to what would actually be spoken within the country) . It's almost as if they're TOTALLY not depicting an actual person who was proven to be alive at some point in history and they have an established culture and language.
Oh they just did us dirty
The poster itself
is already
d i s s a p o in t i n g--
Nah it's more this is we can offend the Philippines in general
Yeah one of the well known hero in Philippines is just some caveman who killed some guys for an underwear.
Ur mad we're better than u LOL
So thirty people died of starvation, and the rest survived *without food*
Hmmmm, hmmMmm, HmMMMmMMMmmMmMM...
Cannibalism was my first guess, but then I realized how long the human body can survive without food(it all depends on how well you can keep your body hydrated).....
So both!
Actually they survived on eating the rats and gnawing on their boots.
Vhien lawrence Dela pena gnawing on their boots.....?
@@goobygames1734 Leather, dried hide. Not great, but in a pinch, boil it an chew it. Prolly tastes like your foot though.
Disney's Pocahontas: "we're totally based on a real event that involves Europe meeting natives of another continent"
Elcano & Magellan: "hold our facts"
Shit, most disney movies altogether
Spoilers: Lapu-Lapu kills Magellan
Except pocahontas was pre teen? i believe when john smith met her. And he took her back to england coz he was a dirty old man. Iv see her grave. She burried in gravesend
@@steammachine3061 actually it was john rolfe took her to England, married her when she was 17, paraded her around England as the "civilized savage, and she died of some unknown disease at 21.
Both of them are historically inaccurate but Elcano and Megallan is way much insulting tho.
"Mummy, I'm a zombie" has unlocked a memory.
I haven't even gone five minutes into this and the minute I saw the poster, I felt the blood of my ancestors boil in my veins. *scowls in Filipino*
He did nothing wrong to you asher
@@asher8754 Dude.
I have the same feeling as a fellow Filipino
Sad but true
As a fellow filipino, i can confirm my blood is also boiling
"They make their content for spanish people". I am spanish, I have no idea who they are.
i thougth the same thing. Im spanish too and literally dont recognize any of their movies shown
Same
I mean, I'm Latina, and have seen some of those movies. Maybe their movie distribution per Spanish country is just weird
Cool.
@@niconico486 Or maybe they are just going for actual country of Spain?
As a Spanish person, I want to say that Spain has never had a great history in film making (I think that a Spanish film called "Champions" won some international movie price but don't quote me on that). On another hand, we don't treat Magellan like a great man who did amazing things, most of us are aware of what he did.
I hope this movie doesn't represent us as a country.
The Spanish colonization basically stipped the Filipinos of their pre-colonial identity. I was researching the history of poetry and drama/musicals in my city in the Visayas region only to find out how most of the pre-colonial documents were burned by the Spanish. We're the only South East Asian country that doesn't use their own alphabet at present because the one we had was eradicated by our colonizers. They literally erased our identity yet have the audacity to paint themselves the heroes.
Well, we still have the baybayin script being used in some signs in the Manila Underpass, so…
Most Indonesian and Malaysian also don't use their native scripts so does Vietnamese.
Literally like kicked someone in their face and then said "woe is me"
@Cpt.Frost what?
Another fake information who spreads by deniers that philippines has actually no written pre colonial history. It is so easy to blame Spain that they "burn the documents" but really there is nothing to be burned because you have no tradition of recording events.
Blame your geography it is islands who has its own language, tribe, clans and identity, hard to have centralized form of government that will maintain and establish culture and philippino identity.
The villan looks like a reject Dracula
*TIS I!*
NEVER FEAR, SIMON BELMONT IS HERE!!!
I was thinking a knock off Dick Dastardly
I'm portuguese and I can say we also dont look like green-skin vampires
Speak for yourself, mano!
thats exactly what a green skin vampire would say
The Portuguese might not be green vampires...
Now the french...
Lies.
on tumblr, everybody called him anti-semitic when they were calling out the poster (i know the character is portugese)
13:47 Frick, the "boat" did not even look native. Usually our boats have these extra appendages on each sides to act as balance when sailing out to sea.
I was thinking the same thing
Can't believe saber hasn't heard of "mummy, I'm a zombie" lol I think it's on Netflix
Marshall animations because you’re so much older now lmao
I remember watching that years ago and being confused since it seemed like a sequel
I watched it a while ago but remember nothing
@@PKMNResearcherSkyler Yeah, I was super confused when I first watched it too. It's because Netflix only put "Mummy, I'm a zombie" on there, which is actually the sequel to the first movie, "Daddy, I'm a zombie".
@@kabbiie Thank you. Now that I know that I might give the first movie a try, seemed interesting enough (I was half asleep when I saw the sequel on Netflix)
is anyone else grossed out about the continual and blatant hypersexualization of native women? Of slave women? Of ethnic women in general in these *european meet foreigner* trope movies?
I think a lot of it comes from Pocahontas, which if you actually know anything about it is a much worse and gross story than disney made it out to be. I dont know if it's one of the bigger problems in these movies given they're oind of inherently problematic unless they're handled really well but it certainly isn't good
It's called "Ms. Fanservice", look it up. I'm mostly concerned with it being done to women in general.
@@theprimestskeletron676 Disney was originally gonna make Pochontas the right age.
@@parker-boy98 romanticizing the rape & sexualization of native & African women is fanservice....gotcha....
@@theprimestskeletron676 a lot of it even before the pocahontas film, comes from the fact that when Europeans landed in native lands (whether that's Africa, LatAm, or the Pacific Islands) saw women who largely wore clothing they considered to be unimaginably revealing (bared breasts were particularly shocking to colonizers) and because of this they assumed it meant that native women were simply morally deficit & extremely promiscuous (instead of using their brains & thinking the climate in these regions is hot and they have no need to cover up) .....this in turn lead to colonizers raping native women en masse and therefore the idea that native women (African, First Nations, LatAm indígnas, and Pacific Islanders) are inherently more sexual has bled into the general narrative. Look at Chel from road to el Dorado.
Funny how a non-Spanish related guy is able to tell a more interesting story than a group of Spanish people...
It's sad that this part of history was taught so poorly to us
Wait until you hear about Americans history 😂
We're not really spanish. We can kinda be considered that but we could also be considered asian or pacific islander.
I see my ourselfs more as asian but it differs from diffrent people.
@@azulizachan7595 Of course it was, much of the European colonizer empires like to whitewash their horrid actions as something that was "good for the natives" and "worked out in the end" and "wasn't so bad" or some other malarky. Hell, as a USA citizen myself, our OWN CIVIL WAR has people trying to whitewash slavery and pretend like the south WASNT a rebellious little wretch trying to maintain the horrid institution of slavery. Neo confederates are like a personal taste of the kind of propaganda that European colony empires spit out, as well as the sympathizers.
@@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 Please don't use "European colonizer empires" to refer to colonial and imperialist aplogists, since the aformentioned quote refers to a government and most modern governments are open with the attrocities commited in their education, aka not whitewashing history, like the "and the natives happily moved away so the peaceful settlers could build a new home" that was(I think it isn't anymore...I hope so) in old Canadian history books.
I am Portuguese and we learn how we started the transatlantic slave trade and how we transported thousands upon thousands of African slaves to our colonies in "Negreiros", ships where slaves were stored like cargo, piled one over the other, in a inhumane way.
I'm quite confident the US also teaches how the CSA rebelled to keep their barbarous slave practices, since...ahem, the USA is the victor of that story and why would they beatify the CSA? Again, the biased apologists being the problem.
Magellan forced one of the mutineers to execute two of the others, one of whom was his foster-brother, then had their bodies dismembered and nailed to the rigging of his ships and left them there for months. The whole story is so insanely dark it absolutely defies belief that anyone would think it was suitable material for a kid's movie.
My mom, who is Filipino, watched this with me and, rather than focusing on the obvious problems, just giggled every-time you said his name.
What a Filipino thing to lmao
This movie was made because in 2019 was the celebration of the 500 year of Magalhães trip and i think it should have been mention in the review . An animated film from the Colombus voyage was also made in it's 500year. It was hot garbage.
Was that The Magic Voyage, the German film? It was indeed hot garbage!
@@CandyHatsuneWolff Every movie made about Colombus in the 500 year aniversary was garbage, especially Conquest of Paradise.
Seems like the movies was made by delusional people who think colonialism was a good thing. People like that are dumbass morons
@@kos2919 Well a native person would think that
@@kos2919 but was worse than the english travels to west?
It's bad that I thought "an offensive controversy" was the slogan of the movie 😳
If that was the slogan I would watch it in a heart beat.
Lol it SHOULD be the slogan for this movie
That's a great name for a satire about this exact theme, but that's not what's happening
I mean you're not wrong
It might as well have been
You should do some straight-up history videos, the part where you explained the actual story of Magellan's expedition was really entertaining
This reminds me of those awful Titanic cartoons with the talking animals.
lol, legend of the titanic or whatever?
There is also The Magic Voyage, a historically inaccurate movie about Christopher Columbus featuring talking insects and the medieval flat earth myth.
Really? They both suck, but I see nothing in common.
@@TheGoblinoid the weird villain they inserted, the tasteless reshaping of historical narrative, the shoddy animation, and the trash voice acting. It's one rapping dog or gangster shark away from being as bad.
@@nothamel1467 something like that.