The Furry Franchise from HELL - Alpha and Omega
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Welcome to furry hell folks :*)
Bro why u do this to dumbsy
OwO
but? aren’t you a furry?
O_O
I never thought you would do a video on this movie, but you did!
I get that they’re cartoon wolves, but imagine hating your children so much you name them “Stinky” and “Runt.”
Especially when Stinky is supposed to be the future leader. And all the other wolves have normal names.
Mario: *HEY STINKY!*
Life goal acquired
@@JoltJackelope you just got hey stinky'ed!
Pretty sure one of the bosses in Kingdom Come is named Runt lol
Hes an ugly fecker.
Here’s the thing: Wolves don’t mate in their own packs. The alphas are the breeding pair and build up the pack by producing offspring. All wolves in a pack are related. We basically watched a whole franchise about canine incest
Oh no
No no no!
THAT'S EVEN WORSE WTF
My favorite zoologist : Monkey D. Luffy
It would explain why the children are as they are.
Alpha and Omega as a "darker film" with a 2D art/animation style similar to "Wolf Walkers" would've been a sight to see: definitely would have gotten better ratings.
Edgyness was the way for the franchise, but they chose kids
Wolfwalkers is like that, and a masterpiece
Don't you dare compare this sludge to Wolf Walkers. XD
Thank you for mentioning Wolfwalkers, never heard of that animation
OMG I LOVE WOLFWALKERS
The fact that this franchise could be considered Omegaverse is incredibly funny to me
I am so very glad somebody else mentioned that. I've never even heard of these, so the phrase "Alpha and Omega" immediately made my brain think of something WAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY different. :P
This comment currently has 69 likes. A coincidence that makes this so much more hilarious.
@@lumisherbert5682 Nice
Does that mean Humphrey was the pregnant one?
@@Jules395 Yes
Fun Fact: David Mech, the man who introduced the alpha hierarchy in wolves theory and published a book went out of his way to debunk and disown his research after finding out that he was wrong.
That's pretty honorable that he did that. To not only prove someone else wrong, but to prove yourself wrong for science, is noble. He understood that had to correct himself and he did.
@@spiralgodking9877 It is very honorable.... unfortunately, it was a few years too late.
It was only after the public popularized his study, articles pumping out false information, fake scientists on the internet making wild theories, and the.... unfortunate bloom of the "omegaverse", did he debunk his study. In fact, despite being the researcher, people didn't believe him when he said "hey, this is completely false"; so to this day, there are still articles and theories up about Omegas and Alphas.
He's made history, in an ironic and disturbing way.
Respect. A lot of people wouldn’t have the courage or integrity to admit they were wrong about even simple things, let alone a major scientific fact they discovered they had gotten wrong. Dude’s a better person than most.
Wow! Really good on him. It takes a person who is honorable, humble, and has a true love of science to not only prove others wrong but also prove themselves wrong when they are. Cool on him. I have more respect for those who claim to love science who are willing to admit they are wrong or they don't have all the facts yet.
Same with Darwin actually! I mean, not exactly the same, but he debunked his own theory.
As a biologist, the guy who 'discovered' the alpha/omega will dynamic later went back and discovered the 'alphas/omagas' were the wolf parents and their kids.
It's a TAD more complex than that. What he saw and titled 'Alpha', 'Beta', and 'Omega' were in zoos, or some other captivity(sanctuaries maybe? Either way...), where there were multiple bloodlines in one enclosure, and when he observed them in the wild, he realized that dynamic was completely absent. It's real, but not in nature. Just in captivity, in very unnatural circumstances for wolves.
@@mad_pac-man It's like the difference between living in a house with your partner and children, and being forced to share a house with a bunch of randos who keep taking your stuff. There's a very different dynamic.
Damn.
For a biologist you sure know how to grammar!
@@senbontorii2680 Yep.
The "alpha Omega" dynamic was based on observations done on unrelated wolves that were all placed in the same enclosure, in the wild the "alphas" are just the mom and dad of the pack and the others members are made up of mostly their children.
Yes! And generally the breeding pair are the ones that produce the pups, but despite wolves generally mating for life, there are situations were the mating pair may mate with unrelated wolves, as well as pack members (females) mating with outside males, as our beloved Casanova wolf showed when he regularly got himself involved with female members of the Druid Peak Pack
I actually had the chance to meet Ben Diskin (Humphrey’s new VA) at a Sanrio themed art show in my hometown. He was cosplaying as Haida (character he voices from Aggretsuko) and he was so kind and really talkative. I took a picture with him and we both held onto my Chococat plush that I brought along. Very great guy!
Ben Diskin even went off to voice Caspar and Lorenz in Fire Emblem: Three Houses and Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes.
The thing I find the most hilarious about these movies is the front covers. Specifically Kate. She has this one pose / head pose that they use over and over again but they rotate her or flip her and it’s so funny to me. Theres even a cover where they cropped her head off that image and pasted it onto a different body pose that looks really wonky and off.
Yes! I saw that too, it was bothering me the whole video. They got truly lazy with that one. lol
She reminds me of Paris Hilton and that one pose she always does for the cameras.
@Sabersраrк 🅥 These spam accounts ain’t even trying
@@AaronArtss why r u responding to them then???
Finally someone said it
Somewhere in an alternate reality, Alpha and Omega is a masterpiece of cinematic animation and spawned two full length sequels that live up to the first.
If only, truly wasted potential.
We truly are in a dark timeline.
Please send me there
I actually like alpha and omega
And How to Train your dragon became a scalie hell franchise
Like Morbius
Alpha and Omega had such a direct-to-DVD quality that I'm amazed it was actually shown in theaters. I can't believe they made so many sequels. I was not only a furry but also absolutely obsessed with wolves when it came out, so you can imagine how disappointed I was when I got to see it for the first time.
Okay furry
@@furriesinouterspaceUnitedWhat was the point of saying that? They literally said they're a furry, so saying that is pointless.
@@greenapple9477 okay fury
@@furriesinouterspaceUnitedok furry (derogatory)
@@averagejoessb3110 uno reverse
11:21 wolves are MUCH bigger than that, like you will not believe. Search up “wolf next to human” or “wolf next to Siberian husky”. They are fucking massive.
can’t believe the dinosaur sequel was SO bad that he just went off script to rant about how truly hellish it is.. i think he deserves a long break to recover after this. we owe you one, saber! 😆
Nah just send him out to find an even worse series I want him broken and questioning his morals! Cause we all know SaberFur is one of em and he admits to the search engine!
That was the movie that made me realize “I’m too old for this crap” because before I liked the franchise
Let’s be fair that’s the one that really broke a lot of people like myself because even by the series standards it is just plain ridiculous to the point that even one of the characters (Humphrey) is questioning the sheer absurdity of it.
I don't even know why the Dino one exists 🤣
@@dreamglowwolf20 I can admit, scales on boobs do make me act up.
Wolf packs are essentially families. A male and female Wolf pair up after leaving their respective families and then form a pack of their litter of various years.
A wolf pup will remain in the back between a few months and 3 years.
The idea of Alpha wolves was concieved with unrelated and captive wolves forming an unnatural pecking order. Alpha, Beta and Omega wolves don't naturally exist. Just that some pups may have more dominant personalities. Overall wolf packs are like humans nuclear family but with more kids involved. The guy who created the Alpha, Beta myth later did more research and discredited his previous statement.
Wolf packs are prioritize the weak and sick during feeding.
How about you back it up with a source
@@puck8961 his source: bro trust me
@@cherubvomit his source is the guy who actually invented the alpha dog theory
@@cherubvomit nice
@@puck8961 Simple, go to the source of the original alpha/omega theorist, then read his later own work discrediting it. Surely you know how to Google?
I remember seeing the first movie when I was younger and thinking, straight up, “This is terrible.” And then I was scrolling through my recs one day and saw the words “Alpha and Omega FRANCHISE.” And I felt a twinge of visceral, lovecraftian horror at the idea that they made a sequel. Imagine how I felt when the number “8” was quoted.
The Moonkitti parody, called "Wolves in Space", no longer feels like an exaturation.
I knew there were at least 3. Maybe 4 max. But 8? And with dinosaurs???
Okay call me crazy but I feel like I remember this one scene in one of the sequels where the characters are on a train, and the baby bear needed to go pee, and they held him over the edge of train car and sang him a “tinkle song” to help him and I still distinctly remember being disturbed
Aghh i remember that too it was so awkward and non-sensical
Yes, that was terrible
I'm gonna say, the entire reason that Alpha and Omega was successful was because wolves as an animal was absurdly popular in the 2010's. I used love roleplaying wolf packs on Animal Jam, they were the most popular animal in the game among everyone at the time.
i remember how everyone used to be an arctic wolf on there💀
@@M4R14H_H everyone always had that damn spiked collar too
@@wren_. My character still has that damn Collar on. You made me go check.
Wolves are always popular with humans, for good reason. We love our wild nature doggo friends.
omg same and warrior cat clans
I love how Humphrey and the pups all have different and unique poses for each cover but meanwhile Kate keeps the same pose every single time with like- photoshopped Mistletoe
I actually loved the original movie. The animation style was cute, the storyline was basic but believable, the jokes are still cute even if they're not funny anymore, and the soundtrack was good enough to cover up the crazy physics and other weirdnesses in the film. Then I saw a sequel on netflix, I don't even remember which one, and hated it so much that I have never watched another. But I still enjoy the original now and then. Nice to know I wasn't missing much.
In my country, Humphrey and Kate were renamed as Romeo and Juliet, I found out today that these are not their original names
I love that one of the voice actors actually took notice of you marathoning these movies and was basically like “Dude, you okay?”
Ben Diskin?
I wonder how he feels about how horrible the sequels were and whether he even cares about it. Dude probably just did it for a quick check and wants it forgotten
Ben Diskin is honestly a really sweet guy. I met him at a Sanrio themed art show in my hometown and he was really kind and talkative. I got a picture with him lol
@@SmartyvoyI mean Robert Pattinson is pretty vocal about how much he hates Twilight.
I was like 10 when the first one came out, and being a wolf-obsessed little kid at the time, I LOVED the movie. Then I got slightly older and realized that I would rather die than have to sit through it ever again. Rest in peace, saber, I don't know how you survived the whole goddamn franchise :,)
Same but I think I was younger when I got into it because I grew out of it at 11
Yeah, the movie doesn't grab my attention anymore. I still like some of the howling scenes, and the singing-howling thing was a great concept. It just needed to be done by better people. Some of em slap, but the overall plot and characters are below mediocre and bore me now.
BALTO. You could have been watching Balto!
@@bananonymoussupreme3345 Balto was SO GOOD!!
@@bananonymoussupreme3345 I used to watch both 😭
It's funny that half of the eight movie covers have the same image of Kate in that one side profile pose with her bedroom eyes look, and the cover designers either thought no one would notice or didn't care. Five (out of nine covers) if you count the 8 movie collection cover.
I'm so happy when channels like yours make the point that something is awful, but remember to remind your audience that doesn't automatically mean everyone who worked/works on it is awful as well. Cheers to the artists and voice actors who are literally just working.
I actually thought the first movie wasn’t that bad and kinda enjoyed it but they never should have made those other movies. They should have just made an actual sequel movie after the original. I actually wished we could have gotten to see a lot more of Garth and Lily because I believe they deserved just as much screen time as Kate and Humphrey. Especially since Kate and Lily are sisters and both of their stories focuses on their romance.
U r actually fan good on u . Go exist happy
That's my take on it as well, I really didn't mind that first movie, I liked quite a few characters. The biggest crime to me (at the time) was the design of the wolves was just so... weird and wrong. But the story was fine, as a stand alone movie, and the animation wasn't terrible either. (I literally watched the first movie and I knew over time all the rest were being released but I never cared to watch any of the other "spin-offs", as they looked to me.)
Same thought bro 👍👍 I watched the first very often when I was a kid bc wolves are my fav animal
Based+L
My sister and I actually did like Alpha and Omega when we were kids but I seriously didn't know their were sequels tbh
I will say, that me and my bf were wayyyyyy more invested into the relationship between the red wolf who can’t howl and the white wolf who is clumsy trying to learn how to hunt.
They were 10 times more believable as a pair than the dynamic between Humphrey and Kate and I would rather watch them as the main characters instead.
I know I did like them better
I remember distinctly that out of all the characters in the movie, I think I only ever liked the white wolf. But I think that’s just because of here purple eyes
Yes, same. I relate so much to her.
Lili and Garth! Truee!
So true I hate these movies but Garth is pretty cute
24:44
"I'm ✨BASED✨"
Vine Boom sounds effect
12:14
I’ve looked into this as well.
🧐
From what I understand, the Alpha/Omega hierarchy was based on the observed behavior of unrelated wolves in captivity. A pack of wolves in the wild is usually just a blood-related family of three or four generations of wolves, the “alpha” being the oldest and strongest male (the grandfather of the pack).
So basically, the old theoretical Alpha/Omega hierarchy isn’t entirely untrue, but it only applies to unrelated wolves (and possibly other canines) in captivity.
🤔
Just wanted to drop in, I was 10 when the first movie came out, I was in the wolf phase of my art, and me and my best friend were obsessed with wolves. It didn't take much to impress two 10 year olds so we enjoyed the movie, but when we got to see the behind the scenes content for the movie, we were OBSESSED. The concept art for the wolves is seriously awesome and they have a lot of personality, it was a shame that they couldn't match the concept art better.
Is maxy still an otter
The question is... Are you *still* wolf guy?
@@tylern6420 actually, sometimes! That carpet is long gone, but when she has a chance to go outside she likes to roll around in the sun, not as enthusiastically though, she's gotten a lot older since that video haha
@@democard1199 Unfortunately not, I still think they're cool, but my wolf phase has long passed (and I never really got amazing at drawing wolves so I don't tend to draw them anymore)
@@LittleParade_ didnt expect that
It is a big misconception that's being more cleared up as days go by. Wolf packs do have an "alpha pair" - the parents. A wolf pack consists of a male and female, and all their offspring. So the "alpha pair", the dominant leaders, are just the oldest wolves who created the rest of the members of the pack. The offspring are loyal to the parents, aid them in hunts, and help babysit future siblings borne from the parents, before perhaps one day leaving the pack to either find their own mate as a lone wolf, or lured away by a lone wolf wishing to mate.
It's pretty cool actually, however the concept of "Alphas and Omegas" has been so overly sexualized in media circles (books, fanfictions ((Omegaverse)), etc) that not a lot of people really focus on the fact Alphas and Omegas aren't a thing, or don't care and just continue on with their horrible, horrible fanfictions.
On the other hand, you have to admit it’s pretty hilarious that there’s two online niches (manosphere and fandoms) where the omegaverse is a thing, and only one knows the other exists
@@girlstor4921 I love the fanfics borderline making fun of the whole thing- or basically just any writing that was obviously just a writer wanting to make a (in the AO3 term meaning batshit crazy writing) “crack-ified” fanfic for a ship they have or feel like making fun of.
Personally love seeing the ones where the author has everyone know that yes they know the whole concept is fake and mistaken for parents, but they want a unrealistic scenario to just see what some characters would possibly do in it.
Most of the time I stay far away from it though, over sexualization and rape apologists reside in the comment sections of those not joking fanfics. Yikes. Big no from me. I’m here for the memes.
@@_PlaceHolderForNow_ true there’s some wierd shit people write with that concept, but I like people who make a complex social system around it and bake it into their world building. I also like the people who studied/study Reproductive biology and make little works about how the body would have to function to support an omegaverse. So it’s a catch-22 imo, and you can find good serious ones if you know where to look
@@girlstor4921 Yeah but its all just in service of stupid porn fantasies about people fucking like dogs, I'm not sure how interesting that can get
Honestly, i find the concept of omegaverse a bit weird sometimes, because i knew the fact that alphas and omegas don't really exist in that way first-
But i also have taken the challenge of writing an universe where there's a hint of the same logic that omegaverse- fanfics usually have, expect it's just not every human ever, just specific ones that are a kind of subspecies and are more animalistic, plus they don't have that....weird anatomy stuff going on with...uhh....Males being able to become preggo and all, i would find it too weird if i went that way lol, anyways, it's definitely a concept that can be written well... But oh man oh boy the times i've seen the horrible stuff that can come out of this idea....ohhh boy
I remember staying at my grannie's and this was what was on before we went to bed, I cringed so hard and had nightmares in my sleep, and to know that there are more of these movies makes me die inside.
Oh no.
Saber I doubt you’ll see this comment but that clip of We’re Back that you played. One of my professors did the backgrounds for that film. That particular song sequence they had to hand draw all the buildings and figure out that crazy perspective. I know it’s not the best movie I just had a fun fact about it!
The concept art being that nicely stylized is heartbreaking when you see just how BAD the 3D models are. If this series had been 2D or come out now, when there's more animation studios specialized in that type of 3D animation, I doubt this serious would be this ugly to look at.
The concept designs look straight out of cartoon saloon movies. They look like the designs for wolfwalkers
@@averyscott9467 That’s exactly what I was thinking! The art style looks pretty similar!
Literally Delgo, that the clay handmade sculptures the artists had on their desks and drawn sketches are a MILLION times better than the final 3D rendered product D:
I mean it, why the pre-production artworks of these B movies are always so gorgeous but their final products so uncanny D:
The Fanarts look better than the actual characters
@@marccamp6376 As a learning 3D artist (college grad of 2022) who is into making stylized 3D work, I have to say it can be tricky to nail down the 2D drawings to transition into a 3D model. I would take my time trying to nail the details down in the base model, and that's not even going into texturing, materials, adding hair, setting up the model that can be posed for animation, etc. Even knowing the process and I finished college, I felt like it wasn't enough so I continue to learn with personal projects, gigs and tutorials online. Edit: Fixed some grammer.
I had a furry best friend in 6th grade who was crazy obsessed with these movies and would talk to me non-stop about this franchise and Wild Kratts whenever she got the chance. I actually kinda miss her
Holy shit I totally forgot about Wild Kratts.
Didn't know it had a furry following
@@marisastoletheprecioussara118 show low key hits different now
@@Hawthorne204 why? Did it change?
GOD, Wild Kratts was my childhood
@@kiroonsmoon wild Krats is still my childhood, fuck anybody who dare says it’s for furries
I have a love-hate relationship with the first movie. It launched me into my wolf phase that I have yet to grow out of. However *I do not like Humphrey and Kate’s relationship.* Something about it just doesn’t seem right for some reason.
You know which relationship did kind of work out? Garth and Lily’s I actually like their relationship and they did the “forbidden relationship between packs thing” right! You know it’s bad when the B relationship has more support than the A relationship lol.
The intro to this video had tears rolling down my face dude! You should do more intros like this!
The original finder of the Alpha idea then found out he was wrong and wrote a book to debunk his findings. Unfortunately his second book wasn't as popular. What was actually found was that it was a family dynamic.
So it's still basically sort of true, as family structures tend to have a loose hierarchy anyways. "'The adults are simply in charge because they are the parents of the rest of the pack members. We don’t talk about the alpha male, the alpha female and the beta child in a human family,' Zimmermann said." Oh, we don't talk about it, but these roles do exist.
Wasn't the "alpha make" just the mother of the other wolves?
makes me wonder if real wolves are offended and not happy to hear that we humans are saying they have some sort of status hiearchy when they just wanna be a happy family
@@majorpwner241Except they don't. Because the wolves aren't treating packs as a social status among themselves of who's the strongest/leader, they're just following their parents. They treat their family as a parent - child, provider - receiver relationship type of way, not in a dominant - submissive type of way like the article suggested.
Then it’d be a small family pack. It’s still a pack with a leader. Usually the one willing to risk itself - the male. Not to mention the fact wolves hunt in that pack to teach their young. It’s basically the same thing I thought it was prior to hearing about any second research. I was here like “duh! Why else would there be a group? Cavemen had a similar structure.”
Literally a 10 year old me was able to conclude that. Hilarious he needed to re-research to figure it out.
Actually, all three of the pups got screwed with their names since the name Claudette is primarily a female name of French origin that means “Lame”… *Fitting For Her Character*
Man, the writers really hated those pups
@@willop6591 Who can blame them?
Funny he should mention Jimmy Neutron, since Jimmy's Voice actor, Debi Derryberry, voices Runt since the third movie.
Wait wait wait. [0:45]??!
I clicked here expecting you joking about contents of the _two_ A&O films I've seen years before (first one and that Christmas'y short). Just happened like this, the experience of watching it was pretty ok. No critical thinking required, I even liked it somewhat.
But you're saying that there's at least *SIX* films of _that kind_ out there? o_o I'm... eh, flabbergasted. That's the best way to put it.
Edit: Ok, now that I've seen a few clips of the first one, the sealed memories of those horrors come back to me. XD
But yeah, just "don't think, mind empty". I'm not sure if it works for anything other that the two I remember, but those two weren't remembered as bad experiences afterwards. Maybe it was because we watched it with our family, so most of it comes from that feeling of bonding with your family, but I don't think bad about those two.
I knew a guy who, unironically, was in love with Lily from this series... I think it was the white one. He was convinced that this wolf was not only real but, and this is the disturbing part, she and he were going to be married in the future... along with 6 other non-human "wives" including a dragon, Krystal from Starfox and an actual real life dog.
I said that's nice, walked away and never spoke to him again.
plz protect Lily from him💀💀💀
Based
@@Mzaleyao thx
Unfathomably based
Absolutely based
12:32 The Alpha Beta wolf thing was based on observations of captive wolves. When in their natural habitat, packs are led by the mother and father and the rest are their offspring who stay for a few years before they eventually wander off to form their own packs. In their natural environment, what mom and dad say goes otherwise they’re free to hit the road.
It’s only in an unnatural environment such as captivity, where wolves who are all not related are forced to live together, there will be a fight for dominance and a pecking order.
To put it in simple human terms: alphas and betas only exist in prison.
Wow thanks
The same scientist that performed the first experiment has now dedicated his life to undoing the harm he did.
It's not just parents who lead the pack, if they pass one of their remaining offspring can take up the mantle and while the now leader does take on a mate often times the leaders siblings can stay if it keeps the pack strong - they do take in the occasional unrelated wolf but it is less common
The dynamics varies from pack to pack but overall its more a family group
@@forgenorman3025 I have no idea who the scientist was, but it's nice that they are trying to actually fix it instead of just continuing to spread misinformation.
Thank you for explaining! I was curious as to the story.
16:10 Fun fact: Chris Bacon's middle name is Paul and he used to be credited as "Chris P. Bacon". He also did the music for Wednesday.
23:03
(Sarcasm) Oh yeah!
That sounds NOTHING like one of the Land Before Time sequels!
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You are taking on the challenge Dumbsville took on and you are brave for doing it
No he's not, he's just saberspark doing what he does
@@STICKOMEDIA this franchise is how dumbsy got as popular as he is. I think there is a correlation there. Not a strong one mind you, just a little bit
Also the challenge of Bobsheaux, who could eventually stand out from the popular opinion of Wizards of Waverly Place (that it’s the greatest Disney sitcom since That’s So Raven even though for the low standards of teen sitcoms, That’s So Raven actually turned out a breath of fresh air) giving it a (mixed but mostly) negative review, especially because of Mason Greyback being the Humphrey (not to mention that Humphrey LITERALLY has a grey back) of the franchise by being the main male lead (at least in season 4) with his toxic masculinity mainly centered around him as a teenage boyfriend.
The trial of the furry hell
Oh my god the S C A M S P A M
the concept drawings looked so good, if they made it a 2D movie i feel it would have a lot more potential.
Agreed, I remember at end of the movie, seeing all the concept and 2d art, and thought it genuinely looked so good. Would've been way better if it was in 2d
Agreed!
Probably would have been cheaper in the long run too lol. WolfWalkers was only 2/3rd the budget of A&O
Yeah fr! I think there was some art of the wolves dogsledding in the credits and it looked like disneys old style, it would have worked much better.
They don't look that bad in 3D, but if I was the character designer for the movie, I'd definitely make some tweaks (namely, make the characters less scrawny and their eyes somewhat smaller)
My friends and I binged the series for Christmas last year and we got to like 5 or 6 and havent finished since. ✨
1:07 he sounds like that priest from the vinyl track in the movie Evil Dead Rising 😂
wolf packs are just a family; two parents with their wolf pups. it's quite wholesome, actually. the parents care for their children until they grow up and are ready to leave the pack, find other wolves and start their own families/packs.
in other words: hamphrey and kate are siblings. i can see why they were forbidden to be together and looked down upon by the entire pack.
Damm no wonder their kids look absolutely hideous they are the result of *I n c e s t*
Similar concept with lions, except there's one male lion and tons of lioness. So, in The Lion King, Simba and Nala are cousins. People need to start doing their research 😅
@@jazzyangelflower3344 Half-siblings
@@chrisbuttonshaw2088 Thanks for the correction, I don't know what I was thinking earlier, lol
@@jazzyangelflower3344 Nah, they’re not cousins of half siblings.
In The Lion Guard, this spinoff show on Disney Jr, it’s revealed that Nala’s dad is a different lion, who’s not Mufasa or Scar.
But ok, to each their own.
Quick Wolf lesson:
Basically the first person to write about the pack structure of wolves and proposed the idea of Alpha and Omega roles in the hierarchy, David Mech I believe, later disowned his own idea. Wolves were very misunderstood from the colonial years all the way to the 1900s, people only starting to learn about and protect wolves somewhere around the 90s. As we have learned more about wolves it has been discovered that there isn't a hierarchy based on what wolves are strongest, the so called "Alpha" wolves at the head of the pack are the parents of the rest of the wolf pack. So yes there are no Omega or Beta wolves they are all just young wolf siblings who listen to the pack leaders because that is mom and dad.
Also, a lot of the observed behaviors like resource hoarding and whatnot that led to the assertion that the strongest and most ready to be violent wolves were the pack leaders was only observed in wolves in captivity; wolves that grew up in a natural family environment did not usually display these behaviors to the extent that wolves taken from nature and placed into a non-family captive group did
Chad 2.0
@@Lardbeane some would say that it indeed is humanity in it's purist form.
@@purpleguy319
Yep, both the best and the worst.
Yeaah im not sure about that man. There are those on top that are more assertive - aka "alphas", those somewhere in the middle, and those on the very bottom that are absolute pushovers. That HAS been observed. In captivity and out of it. People are so weird with labels nowdays... yes the hiarchy exists. No a pack is not always strictly family members. Yes otherw breed as well but out of sight of alphas.
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Richard Rich was also the director of The Fox And The Hound, The Black Cauldron, and The Swan Princess!
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I feel like I've seen the first movie as a kid. The only thing I remember was a few seconds from a specific scene where I think the two main characters were going down a snowy mountain on some kind of sled. I watched the movie in Spanish, and that scene helped me figure out left from right in Spanish.
The saddest thing about these movies is that they actually had some potential at the start. World was interesting enough, had some fairly solid visuals, and I personally liked the designs. Original story was basic, but it worked pretty well, and overall it wasn't a _bad_ movie. Just kinda simple
And then the writers decided to see if it was possible to create Hell on Earth, and we got the monstrosity we have today. Let's just hope we don't get a ninth film to beat the name further into the ground. Just let the poor wolves rest, they've earned that much
That's the unfortunate part; had they actually cared and played their cards right, it had potential. However, they wanted a quick cash grab hence the terrible sequels we got instead.
i remember being young (like really young, so i cant be held accountable) and really liking the first one. so naturally when i heard a second one was coming, i was excited to see where they took the storyline.
you know it’s bad when a literal child is disappointed thoroughly in the quality lol
My thoughts exactly, as a kid, I loved the first movie- adored it. Watched it many times. The next? Holy crap, childhood over. So glad I haven't watched others.
@@polecatpaws Oh boy, let me tell you; The sequels are all over the place and barely add anything of value to the lore/story of the original movie. Another criticism of the sequels is that it focuses a lot more on Kate & Humphrey pups rather than Kate & Humphrey themselves. It is usually the pups get into some sort of trouble and it is up to their parents to bail them out.
The sequels, if you do decide to watch them, are watchable but you can tell they were made with very limitied budget and resources.
Exactly exactly what I feel too. Loved the first movie so much as a kid. But then when the new stuff came out, I was worried about how well it was going to be made…. and I was rightfully worried. My siblings and I only watched them to make fun of them, but everything was so repetitive and boring.
• Kid A likes to be a leader.
• Kid B likes to be independent.
• Kid C can climb but is small or weak or something.
• Mom and dad argue a lot. Mom and dad had learned nothing and continue to have no lessons learned throughout the movies (I hate when movies do this, especially when they ‘resolve’ a problem just for it to come back the next time as if they didn’t just learn and become a better person).
• Little to no scenes with the girl’s sister and her partner, the guy’s best friends, the girl’s parents, the other tribe’s leader, etc; the few scenes they are in, no character development and their personalities either seem bland or over the top, and unlike themselves from the first movie.
To be completely honest though, watching the first movie as a kid, and watching the rest as an older teen, that probably made a difference too.
The guy who originally made up the alpha and omega shit went back years later to revise his theory.. But as it turns out he realized there were no such thing and that the "Alphas" and "Omegas" he originally looked at were actually parents and their wolf pups. He tried to retake everything he said but it was too late since people began loving the idea of alphas and omegas.. idk if he's still alive or not but he hates and absolutely regrets ever conceiving the idea.
correction. he realized it was flawed because of of his research came from studying wolves in captivity who were brought together precisely for the purpose of the study. which meant he wasnt studying a wolf pack as much as a collection of strangers trapped together.
he did research to get yhe truth and tried to get his original study discredited and stop it from continuing to be published. but unfortunately it is now a misconception held even to this day
I'd say the analogy in terms of human relationships is alright, but the original research and theory is indeed bunk.
@@ismellmandude6401 ... I think it has so much potential for toxicity and general horribleness when attached to human relationships, so yeah, nah... for the sake of my sanity, I'll just consider it bs.
@@ismellmandude6401 Not really. Human relationships and social standing are fluid and far too complex to be labeled as alpha, Omega, etc. You may be top of the food chain in one social circle, but if you're put into a completely new group of strangers you're not going to become a leader of that group by fighting or pushing others around. The closest thing would be something like prison.
@@concernednoiseo1909 in other words, in captivity. Just like wolves!
Brilliant commentary as always 👌 Glad I found you 😆
I've seen 1,2, and 4 and I was pretty young so I really loved it for some reason. Anyway, I have a soft spot in my heart for this movie now.
The idea that wolf packs are led by a mating pair of "alphas" is a misinterpretation of the fact that the pack is a family unit. The alphas are usually the parents of the rest of the pack. The reason the rest don't mate is because they're siblings. When they get old enough, they leave the pack to go start their own. "Lone wolves" aren't really a thing either, for the most part. They're just young adults looking for mates.
Yeah, the researcher whose paper spawned the whole "alpha/beta/omega" thing has spent the entire rest of his life trying to tell people it's totally false. Or at a minimum get the publisher to stop selling the book he wrote and subsequently debunked. Bit of a tragic tale, really.
@@PhysicsGamer Sadly it's now so welded into social and popular culture that it now seems practicaly impossible to change that perspective form said culture, really odd.
@@PhysicsGamer To expand on that in case people are interested, the issue with that study is that the researcher - David Mench - looked at a group of unrelated wolves in captivity and assumed that wild wolves in family packs are the same. However, taking any animal out of its natural habitat will change its behaviors and a wolf would react differently to unrelated wolves than it would to its family.
A common misinterpretation of this, though, is the idea that wolves do not have a social hierarchy. They absolutely do! All social animals do, monkeys, orcas, horses, even us humans. Some wolves are at the top, some at the bottom, and some in between. In a family unit consisting of parents and their offspring, the parents are naturally going to be at the top, because the young instinctively respect their parents. Here's a quote from one of Mench's studies: "Calling a wolf an alpha is usually no more appropriate than referring to a human parent or a doe deer as an alpha. Any parent is dominant to its young offspring, so "alpha" adds no information."
@@PhysicsGamer what's he think of Sigma wolves?
@@PhysicsGamer coincidentally, the author of the original Jaws book is doing the exact same thing for sharks after an increase in shark hunting began after the movie was released. Really shows the impact popular media has on human perception and the real world harm it can cause.
I remember loving this series so much when I was little...my poor parents.
xD yeahh.. definitely makes sense why my brothers would make fun of me for watching it😭
YEAH I WATCHED ALL OF THE MOVIES i liked wolves. that's all i can say.
oh so this is where omega verse comes from
So did I lol but I remember hating the dinosaurs one
EVEN LITTLE ME KNEW HOW HORRIBLE THAT ONE WAS
I feel blessed to have only liked the first one as a kid
Bro hitting it with the journal post apocalyptic journal entry! Lmao oh my soul is eroding too!
excellent deployment of the Videogame Dunkey voice clip sir XD
"Yeah could you lighten it up for the kids."
Yeah THIS is why you DO NOT want a Warrior Cat movie. They're trying. They're still trying. But the books especially the first six, are VIOLENT. One cat gets slaughtered by dogs, another cat gets eviscerated, and because they were leader, they die OVER. AND OVER. AND OVER. Nine times before they're dead. Because in that world, the whole "cats have nine lives" thing is taken literally at least for leaders. Cats die of infection, disease, there are BLOODY battles over territory....if Warriors were to have a movie it would NEED to be like Felidae or Watership Down. BUT because it would be animated, it would have to be geared towards kids because THAT'S ALL ANIMATION IS GOOD FOR RIGHT?! ugh.
Teen or R Rated animated movies are possible. However, like you said, people automatically believe that just because something’s animated, it must automatically mean it’s for kids!
Even a Warrior Cats movie happens and the rating says R or 13+, parents will still end up taking their little kids to the movie because “iT’s AniMated! ThAt meAnS iT’s fOr KIds!”
That preconceived notion is something that needs to disappear before a Warriors movie can ever be made. I’m tired of people believing that animation is only for kids when really, it’s so much more than that.
Just go watch Felidae for that experience
@@fightinggamegeek9238 absolutely. Have you seen the WC Animated channel? they're legit taking the books and bringing them to life! They have voices even for a lot of the cast already and the designs OHHHHH so GOOD especially loving Tigerclaw's look. I like that he doesn't just look BIG but like...the largeness comes from FLUFF. Also like that his claws aren't OVERTLY long either. And OH MY GOD Spottedleaf having a LEAF shaped tail is genius.
crying and screaming
Yeah, I've read a lot of those books. A Warriors movie (a Chinese-British one) _is_ in the making and I think they're planning a more realistic look, but it seems it's gonna take a looong time to finish that one.
This also makes me think of the Wings of Fire show about dragons that was being created for some years, but Netflix unfortunately cancelled it this year before it was even released. It looked promising and serious based on some concept art.
That series can get really violent too and I wonder how they would've portrayed that, because the book series is also very popular with kids. Like in the very first book, one character commits suicide by burning alive because he had no hope against a seemingly invincible opponent who was going to kill him slowly for gladiator entertainment. And basically acid gets dropped on another one's head and eye, which burns through his eye socket and skull.
I find it hilarious that the female wolf has practically the same facial expressions for almost every movie cover
I was hoping somebody noticed she was exactly the same just resized or flipped for every single one
One look? ONE LOOK?! I don’t think so!
Oh, no, wait. Wrong franchise.
There are only few that she looks different in, even the pose is the same so I suspect that they just used the same image over and over again
After the ghost one, I didn’t think there were any more.
And I’d like to keep it that way in my head. The first movie is good, the second movie, I liked it, same with the third one. The fourth one (ghost one) that was good, I loved it. Then the next one. It’s just memories from the first four… and everything went downhill from there…
I will only watch the first four and only the first four
Edit: I’m a person who watched alpha and omega as a child and it’s just a story about wolves to me who live in Canada like me. I’m also a person who watched Rio, Happy feet, and Spirit stallion of the cimmreon(?) on repeat
i just realized, as a kid, i had watched all of the alpha and omega movies on disney channel and survived the furryfection of it
and yet i *almost* caught it with Animal Jam.
damn you WildWorks
Edit: No i dont hate furries, They are fine since I even drew furry characters from games
mlp and littlest pet shop turned me into a furry without even realizing...later on aj
@@-mystery-. I also loved mlp and Lps so can relate, though I never tried to make a Mlp or LPS oc so guess thats how i avoided it (Also no i dont hate furries, I have drawn some furry characters from games before)
@@chaotronic_plays3368 cool ( ty for not hating)! I only had a lps oc growing up then i moved on and made my own no fandom ocs and then it hit me and i realized im a furry
@@-mystery-. Oh lmao! Thats how it happens mostly 😂
@@chaotronic_plays3368 xD
When you're designing characters, knowing what medium they're going to live in is very important. The character designs they showed in the bts would absolutely look great 2D, but that type of stylization is hard to translate into good-looking 3D models. This is why working as a team that can communicate and say "hey boss, this is gonna look weird in 3d, I promise" and trusting that person so that the designs can be reworked into something salvageable.
This is why when you see DreamWorks movies that are based on books, like The Bad Guys for a recent example, they keep to the spirit of the style the story was illustrated in (if there were illustrations) but they modify it to make it more appealing in 3D (and also marketing, hard to market a movie if people think your movie is ugly)
@AT Productions Oh yeah I definitely agree. Everything just fit right in
It really makes me wish the 2D animation isn't considered so unmarketable nowadays.
The style would have worked so much better with these characters but of course they couldn't make it on a nothing budget like 3D.
The biggest problem is they simply don't care, it's about cranking out a product not about making a good one.
Wait, The Bad Guys was based on a book?
@@DarleneVoidDragoncat a lot of dreamworks movies were based on books, surprisingly! It's an interesting rabbit hole to jump down, i recommend it
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu it's funny, because 2d absolutely is seen and considered marketable, but not for movies and/or not in America. There is a lot of examples of 2d animated *shows* that are highly marketable, and you don't have to look too much farther than Anime. The market for both manga and anime is HUGE, even in america, but for some reason american based companies do not see that it's not the medium but the story that's important (and good marketing, but that only gets you so far). tbh, we are seeing people get more and more frustrated at 3d movies that are lackluster, no longer won over only by visuals, so hopefully the pendulum starts swinging the other way a little bit
When I tell you I was OBSESSED with these movies as a kid, I mean it. I made countless of my own wolf characters based on the franchise. It was an... interesting period of time.
i was like this too, seriously ur not alone
@@dumbina33 very glad to hear it lmao
we all have that phase as a little kid, i was obsessed with WALL-E.
I was obsessed as well
@@bread-muncher WALL-E was awesome tho
Dude, Justin Long pops up on the most random stuff. Fun fact, he's literally my English teachers brother.
That's so whacky tbh. Small world
Saber have you ever thought about doing a video on some of the PBS kids cartoons, some of them are really really good, especially the ones made after books, if you ever do I'm sure lots of people would love that.
When it comes to movies abandoning their initial protagonists, I thought Tinkerbell did it very well in the Legend of the Neverbeast - it switches perspectives to an established character with her own chaotic personality and gives a good reason that Tinkerbell doesn't have faith in her judgement (therefore putting the normal protagonist in the role of ANTagonist which is a cool switch tbh) so while you are following someone else if feels like the same franchise. It's just Tinkerbell's turn to let her biases affect her judgement. also even in the franchises weaker movies there are some fun character moments like the Garden Fairy's arc in the short Fairy Games movie as she finally gets over her dirt phobia.
Also the finale of the neverbeast movie looks terrifying if you don't know what the beast is doing, so the other fairies' trepidation towards it unfolding makes sense.
I loved the neverbeast and wanted there to be movies for the other fairies in the group…
The Tinkerbell movies, I feel, are unnecessary add-on sequels done right. Some of them are really high-quality (such as Legend of the Neverbeast!) and delightfully surprisingly fun kids movies.
Oh my god I loved the tinker bell movies as a kid! Saber should definitely do a video on tinkerbell and all the movies lol
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I think Tinkerbell also did somewhat well when Tinkerbell wasn't the protagonist for once. She had her skepticism, but she wasn't totally against the new ideas either, she understood what it was like to believe in something when no one else did, she just warned extra caution. Actually, it's been over a year since I've seen it, and I've only seen them each once, so my memory is a bit foggy, but I think this is how it was.
I'll be honest. I was only aware of the original, and the existence of one of the sequels with the Cubs. Two movies. How the ****** did this series push out *EIGHT?!?*
There’s a theory that it’s money laundering
One of life's mysteries better left unsolved.
Same
"And I'm looking for new competitors for next year!" *During the day it's a place of joy*
10:01 “So folks, use my link, or go to hell-“
Alpha and Omega 1: It's so weird for our pack to separate us! It's wrong to think of all Omega's as weak and stereotype them :(
Alpha and Omega 2: Anyways our son is an Omega so we named him Runt lmao
Garth and Lilly should’ve been the main characters. Their awkwardness is actually kind of cute, while Kate and Humphrey are mostly irritable and unlikable.
Tbh, yeah. They’re more interesting characters.
Lilly was my fav as a kid, thats right i was the "not like the other girls" kid
yep and agreed.
Yeah, we all agree on that, they had cute and believable chemistry and they went through a character arc where they help each other improve their flaws while simultaneously falling in love, while Kate and Humphrey are obnoxious, have little to no development and spend most of the movie disagreeing and dissing each other in a tone that's less playful and more mean-spirited and yet they're the main focus and the main love story? It says a lot that Lily and Garth eventually disappear from this franchise, we can't have good things, apparently. Although considering that the movies get worse and worse, I'm kinda glad Lily and Garth vanish from the later sequels cuz at least they weren't part of those awful movies. XD
@@cintronproductions9430 well lily made a return to the legend of the sawtooth forest.
I remember going on a cruise that started in Floride and went down around Mexico and a kid tv channel had the Alpha and Omega movie playing twice a day everyday...
I am surprised I even watched alpha and omega as a toddler. I had nightmares of that movie as a child… I only watched 1-3 though. Never really remembered the second to third movie. Had no idea there was a full on series.
The reason for the confusion about Alpha wolves is that they originally looked at wolves in captivity and not in the wild. In captivity it’s a bunch of unrelated wolves shoved together in an inclosure. In the wild it’s a literal family with the mother and father at the top and all the children bellow. Their “hierarchy” is the same as in your family with your parents.
Not really though because wolves don't have nuclear family structures. Instead, it's just two wolves who are the main breeding pair at the top. An example includes how a daughter wolf overthrew her mother and became the 'leader', and a very ruthless one at that, who was then overthrown by one of her sisters.
Friendly reminder that the dude who played the lead wolf guy in the sequels did some voice acting for a few Fire Emblem characters, is the English dub of Joseph Joestar, and is Numbah One from KND. Dude carried the series
Okay, you need to be more specific about the part with Joseph, since Richard Epcar has also voiced Joseph. The difference is that Ben Diskin voiced Joseph in Part 2 (known as Young Joseph), and Richard Epcar voiced Joseph in parts 3 onward (known as Old Joseph).
EDIT: To prevent some apparent confusion, I am merely clarifying the specifics of Joseph Joestar's voices. Everything else mentioned is accurate.
What’s even funnier is that Ben EVEN KNOWS ABOUT SABER reviewing this absolute hellhole of a franchise and even reached out to Saber on Twitter and said the only “””good”””” one was the first.
Ben Diskin has become quite the Furry himself, thanks to him also providing the voice of Haida from Aggretsuko and Jack from Beastars.
EDIT: He also voiced Shirou from BNA too! (Another Wolf)
HUH
Lol
16:02 I almost choked on my drink, that’s the same “YAYYYY” they used in FNAF
I remember my sister introducing this to me when we were little
though not many episodes
Captive wolves laid the basis of the "alpha wolf" myth--it's like basing your idea of "normal society" around incarcerated inmates.
Actual wolf society is not headed by "strongest man and strongest woman", it's literally just "mom, dad, and the kids".
‘Tough guys’ who brag about being an alpha are not an alpha or even a beta.
Characters like Steve Harrington, now that’s an alpha.
@Sabersраrк 🅥 THEY'RE LEARNING.
It's sad that the entire alpha/sigma male movement is based on this one debunked theory on wolves, but seems particularly popular with right-wing ideologues that otherwise wouldn't trust science or experts in general precisely because scientific theories like "alpha wolves" are likely to get debunked as more tests are performed and humanity knows more than it did in the past.
And either way, a human being, a supposed member of the Earth's "dominant species," not making any attempt to resist the worst of our species' instincts and be a better person is pathetic. Even if "alphas" and "betas" were real and you were a "beta", that doesn't mean it's your unshakeable destiny and you might as well give up, and "alphas" should be aware that strength can come in more-responsible ways than saber-rattling and causing violence in general. At the very least, we shouldn't be slaves to instinct like wolves and dogs, why do you think we were given brains as humans?
@Sabersраrк 🅥 lmao
Alpha and Omega is a perfect example of how some movies should only ever be 2D. Those concept designs look SO GOOD but the 3d design look God awful. Also it has always killed me how bad this series is, because wolves are my favorite animals and it's so hard to find decent movies where they aren't the villains with the exception of a couple movies (Wolfwalker's my beloved). Like if they had better animation and a tad bit better writing, the first movie COULD have been good. (not the sequels though, those are a lost cause).
As a 3D artist, I loved making stylized 3D work but honestly it can be hard, trying to transition from 2D into 3D without making it look creepy by accident. It's like trial and error for me. I have made some ugly models but I learned from my mistakes. I also watch people/professionals who have more knowledge in this skillset and they are able to successfully create some nice looking stylized 3D models, and I try to replicate that so I know what works for the character design and how to successfully reproduce it myself. I think the tough part is that on the base many 3D programs try to aim for realism (for example the lighting) but I want to go the stylized route.
Watch The Bad Guys
Even in 2D it wouldn't look good
The sad thing is 2D is way more costly and takes more time..so move movie studios have stopped doing it for the most part as why waste time and money on 2D when you can do 3D and make more money via the cheap work-arounds and saves?
@@abstraction6212 i feel like it would've looked a little bit better.
I can't believe I actually liked this movie as a kid 😭😭 at least the first one, then it got hella weird for me and I left it behind. I'm glad I didn't continue this series. Ty Saber for suffering for us, and apologies for making you suffer
I remember really liking the first film (i was the target demographic when it was released in theatres)! Its.... wild to see what happened after that.
But i remember really liking Lily because i was also really shy and liked to hide myself behind my hair like she did.
To clarify that point on Alpha wolves: the concept came about from Rudolph Schenkel who originally wrote about it in his study "Expressions Studies on Wolves", and then was popularized by David Mech when he wrote “The Wolf: Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species,” in 1968. In fact Mech himself studied them further and came to a shocking discovery that actually disproved Schenkel's observations. The pack and their supposed "Alphas" were all blood relatives. The supposed "Alphas" just happened to be the rest of the pack's mother and father. Just a bunch of younger pups following their parents. Once Mech discovered this, he plead with the publishers of his book to stop printing it so he could correct this mistake. But unfortunately the damage was done and the "Pack Alpha" concept was popularized in media. He has been fighting to rid the world of it ever since.
And this is why you do research yourself before making a book off another's work..he didn't look into it, spread false info, and when he went to correct it the damage was too massive.
and unfortunately due to the concept of alphas we have a bunch of questionable ABO fics and the rise of male astrology with the whole alpha, sigma, and beta thing lmao
@@mookiess ABO fics are harmless and merely a fantasy that has nothing to do with real biology or animals. Those men on the other hand... they're just full on insane lol.
The concept of alphas is not irrelevant just because the wolf pack is a family unit. Its purpose is to help describe social heirarchies. A family is a social heirarchy where the parental figures are typically the alphas.
@@Frenchaboo well yeah i used to read them too lol. It's a fault on my part. I should've clarified i find nothing wrong with the concept itself, i'm moreso referring to the really weird ways people use it, which can actually cause harm, especially to the impressionable demographic. From where im from, ive often seen ones where consent is well, dubious at best, or ones that glorify/romanticize abuse and toxicity. While these are fantasies (and i do know that certain kinks exist), there is a level of danger that they can pose to young impressionable kiddos that might find these things attractive and try to seek it in reality. Again, nothing wrong with werewolf romance but if its trying to glorify something like r*pe in a place where young impressionable readers can see, that's when i think it crosses the line a bit.
And, idk if im just being dumb but i thought ABO always incorporates some form of real biology in wolves. Pheromones, knotting, are things present in wolves and are heavily used in ABO.
But anyways before i digress, i just wanna clarify i have nothing against ABO fics, but rather how its often used.
PS: Something ive noticed is how the common (and at times toxic) tropes used in ABO are revered in the Alpha-Sigma-Beta astrology, and its concerning with how their followers are trying to act like those Alphas that i often see in the books. Lowkey getting our own ABO universe here lmao
The whole "Alpha/Omega" thing was a misconception because of bad research. It was a conclusion drawn while observing non-related, captive wolves. The reason for the aggression and submission dynamics is because the animals flat out WEREN'T in their normal social groups.
Turns out when you force a group of unfamiliar wild animals into a stressful situation they get aggressive, who knew lol
it wasnt studying wolf behavior. it was studying what is effectively woof prison culture
I agree
I liked the show when I was younger, but now I realize how unrealistic the wolf social structures are in this movie...
@@thesatelliteslickers907 *Woof prison culture.* I like that term. :D
Didn't expect the Revengence Status at 5:08, Well played. Well played indeed.
Ngl I have childhood trauma from how bad those wolf pups and baby bears danced at the end of the 8th movie.
The wolves studied in the Alpha and Omega theory were originally different teenage wolves that were raised in a cage with other alien wolves in zoos.
He who made that theory discovered the error and did not ask them to print more books with that theory, but they refused.
So really, they are Brother and Sister, because the wolf pack is controlled by the parents.
Yeah the original alpha study really only has merit in prison populations. Real wolf packs are families; "real alphas" didn't fight their way to the spot, they're just the mom and dad
On the subject of eyes, have you seen the ones in The Bad Guys? The eyes are done using a very different shader to the rest of the characters. You'd think that would be terrible, but it actually came out looking great - they must have spent a great deal of time just refining that technique to make it work so well. It lets them use eyes that have the expressiveness of 2D animation in a 3D environment.
The Bad Guys is absolutely awesome. ;)
mr wolfs eyes makes him look so fuckable ohh i want him so bad
Speaking of Bad Guys (great movie) I also hope he does Rock Dog, the first one is great. Two good movies that are Furry movies and not just bait :D
Not just the eyes! There are lots of little 2D lines and details if you really look, but the style works so seamlessly!
Eyes ARE very important to relate to characters
If they are too far apart or too close it looks uncanny.
And big eyes arent as bad as is related to babies who have small head and big eyes, making it "cute" in a way.
Apart from that if you check eyes design you would see how just a milimiter of diferent in position or zise changes the expresion severily, from surprise to focus, fromtired to sexy, etc.
16:07 bruh that is literally the exact same sound effect used in FNAF when you reach 6am
Oh god
I watched alpha and omega, as well as some of the sequels, when I was a child. This is nostalgic and horrifying at the same time.
Imagine a movie with the concept of a wolf ghost protecting her blind daughter with the 2D style from the behind the scenes. What a waste of potential D:
Great video, Saber!!!
Gonna work more on getting good at drawing furries I gotta animate something short with this
@@Fionacle go for it!! You'll do it great :D
That's actually a really good idea I wish they went with.
I actually didn’t mind the first movie, as a kid and I don’t mind it now. Despite the predictable story, cliched characters, and unpolished animation, it’s still a pretty cute love story about a guy and a girl who are polar opposites, but learn to bond and trust each other. Marcel and Paddy are charming comic relief and they never get on your nerves too much and the relationship between Garth and Lily is a fun B plot, too. Overall, a serviceable kids’ movie that I have a certain nostalgia for. 🐺🌕
Same here, the first movie still holds up.
Yeah I think the first one is decent but after that, hoo boy. It just gets worse, worse and worse. O_O'
same i enjoy the first one now like i did when i was a kiddo
I didn't even know there were sequels. The whole thing screamed bargan bin movie that noone knows and fades into obscurity.
Turns out there's... so much...
Yeah I really enjoyed it as a kid and thank god I didn’t see any of the sequels.
I remember every single one of these from my childhood. My mother put them on to have us disassociate lol. My mother enjoyed the series since she felt it was similar to a show she watched back in the 80s.
I genuinely don't know why but when I was younger, alpha and omega (the first one) was my favorite movie ever.
I now see the error of my ways
This entire franchise just made me realise how bad Chris Bacon has it. Dude seems like a genuinely talented composer but he's stuck writing music for this crap
Man going full Beethoven for garbage movies. He deserves so much better.
@@DeadpanVT sounds like dollar store John Powell which is still better than most direct to dvd composer
@@DeadpanVT gotta have something for his resume I guess.
I just learned his name is literally chris p. bacon this poor man
@@DeadpanVT yeah, holy shit that's so funny
I must say, I only ever saw the first one, but I feel like it is worth mentioning that Kate's mother was a WONDERFUL character. She made me laugh. Because she was randomly bloodthirsty
Eve! Yes I actually loved her!! 😂
She was one of the best parts of the first movie
Same! Didn't even know the movie had sequels, let alone SEVEN up until now!
ah yes Karen wolf 😌
"If you harm my daughter, I will rip out your eyes and shove them down your throat so you can see me rip you to pieces first-hand!"
Love that wolf mom
I have discovered the Alpha and Omega movie had seven sequels thanks to this video... and now I wanna watch the rest of the others!