Danny Murphy INSISTS Graeme Souness Would Have THRIVED In Modern Football & Been One Of The Best 🤩
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- TalkSPORT's Danny Murphy agrees that Graeme Souness would have been one of the best footballers if he was playing in the modern game.
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Souness was one of the greatest midfielders in Europe & would walk into any team then/now. In 7 years at Liverpool he won 5 leagues, 3 European Cups & 5 League Cups
@matthewjamison This is simply not fact...
And you can tell Souness is being disingenuous, because he says modern players couldn't cope with his hardships...
I'm sorry...a tractor may beat a Ferrari on mud, but a Ferrari beats a tractor on tarmac...
@@MuhammadImHardBruceLeecmon you know what he means. If souness lives in an era of pamperedness and private jets, he’d do just fine imo.
@@MuhammadImHardBruceLeePlayers and coaches today cry about “load management” whilst being flown everywhere and being pampered by physios, chefs, masseuse etc.
Within a handful of games they’d be crying and begging to be returned to 2024.
@@jimsim8736And Souness would be complaining about the pace of the game, tactical demands, and the fact you actually have to be good instead of hacking people down all day
@@Antonio-hb8rd Yeah the modern pace of the game really held back players like Pirlo, Busquets, Kroos, Jorginho, Muller etc... however will Souness cope!
Souness played for my arch rivals but honestly he was an absolute monster of a player technically mentally and physically his passing range his touch his influence on games he was also extremely nasty with it that was needed in that era
I'm the same. I'm anything but a scouser but I have to admit he was a wonderful footballer.
I played against Danny when he was at Blacon as a youngster then with him at Crewe... he doesn't get the plaudits he deserves. What a player. He could do it all... and that's coming from a Manc
The question of what player is the modern equivalent of Graham Souness was great, it shows how good he was but also what the modern game is missing.
For me the mix of athleticism, technique, aggression and individualism were at the absolute sweet spot back 20-25 years ago. Back then you had players who could do what Souness could do:
( Gerrard, Vieira, Keane, Ballack, Totti to name a few off the top of my head ) you had some of the best technical players we have ever seen in (Zidane, Bergkamp, Rui Costa, Ronaldinho to name a few)
you had players as fast as anyone today if not faster ( R9, Henry, Cisse, Rommedhal, Kaka, Eto'o to name a few)
you had the guys who could run all day ( Makelele, Gerrard, Essien, Gattuso, Cafu, Carlos, to name a few)
and you had more world class defenders playing than today.....too many to name - lets just mention Maldini shall we since no one currently in world football currently is anywhere near the level he reached.
Bruno Fernades (at MU) is a like for like with Souness. Also attitude wise
@@TantricBioHacker .............you got a bad batch mate , please return to your dealer ...............
@@TantricBioHackerwhen do I stop laughing. Not even close.
@@JG-us9lu Same kind of petuelance and look of annoyance
he meant it would be a doddle because of the quality of the pitches, the care they receive, the number of subs available, the ease of travel, the not getting kicked - all those challenges he had are not there, so that makes it easier
you still have to play
Souness and Brian Robson would walk it
Doing a Ray Wilkins…….Ray used to pass sideways. We all used to say it in the 80s
I hate whenever this topic comes up, because it turns into everyone bashing everyone else when we should be celebrating greatness, both the greatness of the past and the greatness of today. Souness was one of the absolute best players to ever put a pair of boots on, full stop.
I think 80-90% of the great players from the past would be great today, they’d just play differently and adjust. 80-90% of the greats today would be great back then, they’d also play differently and adjust. Some guys from the past couldn’t handle athleticism or the media scrutiny of today, some guys today couldn’t handle the physicality and the shoddy facilities/travel accommodation. But the vast majority of the greats would be great and adjust to the differences. Souness might not play the exact same role today, but he’d be great nonetheless and he’d be a winner.
Souness is one the toughest men to ever step foot on a football pitch. But you’d be a fool to think that was the only thing he brought to the game.
He could tackle, pass, lead, control the pace of the game, and had a great engine on him.
Yeah, he was pretty complete.
That said…..VAR means he would be suspended for most of the season 😂
He's referring to the 'Crab', Ray Wilkins, I think? (re: passing sideways)
Ray was class though. Remember him killing it at times for QPR in the early 90's with Andy Sinton, and Sir Les up front.
Declan Rice
@@kol9382 behave, declan rice wasnt even born when Souey played.. hes reffereing to the crab, that is ray"butch" wilkins
I think Souness coild play today. I would say the likes of Charlton, Law, George Best and many others could too
100% and Kenny and Emlyn, greats slow it down in their heads, today its called 'flow state', they did it with casey's and Guiness. Those pitches were mud baths, not putting greens.
All the celti/ lrish fans trying to dis Souness because of his elegance to Rangers. But, ultimately Souness was a monster and Liverpool legend.
Souness rules. Speaks the truth too.
VAR would ruin it for Souness😂
He was tough (borderline dirty) but that was part and parcel of it then. He was not a fool and would adapt now.
not borderline dirty he was disgusting
@@kaidenhall2718 No he wasn't. There was maybe one incident in his career that can be called "disgusting" and things were way different.
@mojebi3804 I can recall two shocking tackles in a Scotland jersey, against Siggi Johnson and Peter Nicholas. Another on a Rumanian player for Rangers. Then there was the George McCluskey "tackle" on his Rangers debut. I could go on.
Not if he played for one of the Manchester teams.
I had the great fortune to watch Souness at The Rangers - he was still a magnificent footballer. Of course, I was already aware of his brilliance from his career before Rangers - one of my all-time favourite players.
Jordanite, Souness & Murphy = Top LADS Proper Clobbers 💯 Facts
I wonder if footballers of yesterday sometimes think if only? For the success, pleasure and money they did get then what would they achieve in this day and age. The skills some of them had playing on muddy pitches with divots every yard.
The players had to change their kits at half time because they where that dirty. I remember Franny Lee and others with beer belly's.
The Liverpool teams of the late 70s and early 80s would beat any premier league team today👊💪
Serial winner - proper alpha of the liverpool wolf pack.
Proper boss team that was, that's what we call domination
The way he walked out in Rome 84, Godlike
@@DjDown1984and ran the show
Imagine dalglish,and keegan in todays game and hoddle
I could listen to those 3 guys all day long
There’s no one like souness now!
Liverpool have never replaced him with anyone as good.
Souness, would destroy modern day footballers...literally!
First time ive seen you say something credible 😂👍
Talking sense for once I see.
@@docholiday-lm4vf I've lot of respect for Souness. PROPER footballer. STILL hate Liverpool, though!
@@lfcspectre4335 I have total respect for the likes of Dalglish, Souness, Rush etc. Brilliant players. It's their minority of self entitled fans I can't stand.
@@garywallace5602 Fair enough, but I am not entitled fan that includes any fans from all football clubs including your own Newcastle Utd.
Talent never fades ❤
Souness would be sent off every game in today's game
Imagine how Vinnie Jones would have ended up.
no he wouldn't, stop talking shite
He would have adapted to how the game is played and run today. But on your rationale, every player from then would be sent off now.
Elite is Eltie......Of course Souness would of adapted,. Danny Murphy would of been a great no. 8 in the current Spurs system btw.
Why didn't he work out at spurs? I was young when we signed him, thought he was a good player but sort of faded away after not being used correctly at all
@@acidtwin Was kinda bad timing, he turned us down when he left Liverpool to join Charlton of all places and then the fans never really took to him because of that.....A very good player but much better suited to being a big fish in a small pond tbh.
@@martinwalton9307He's actually addressed that & said that he moved cos Charlton offered him more money, but he regrets it to this day.
@@acidtwinSame reason Salah and De Bruyne didn't make it at Chelsea.
He would have the same diet and training as a footballer today.
I would like him as a technical advisor for Chelsea 😺
I'd love him as an ambassador to the next LFC manager
Did Souness mean doing a Wilkins? 😀⚽️🥅
Love hearing Millennials talking about football. Spouting about sports science and athleticism. Bottom line, is that a good footballer needs skill. Anyone can acquire athleticism. Not everyone can acquire skill, though!
Players now are over coached. That is why loads cannot play the ball forward. They did not learn to kick a ball on roads, back alleyways, housing estates and local parks.
Obviously they would be peak athletes doing the same training and diets as they would today
Hey! Don't get bringing your logic and common sense here. You know this is a chance for the dinosaurs to reminisce "when men were men" etc, etc...
😉😅
The true pros of any era would adapt. Souey, Robson, Der Kaiser, Maldini: no sweat.
Souness comes from the men era … now itself kids era … absolutely he would kill it!
Ah! Found the dinosaur guys...
@@gillie-monger3394Haha, is that all you've got junior.
@@JG-us9lu Here we go boys, the heard is gathering...
@@gillie-monger3394 You mean the herd?
Be a walk in the park for the likes of souness , Robson, hoddle, currie and Devonshire and many many others ! Modern football is overrated
I wonder what Gazza wud do in todays football. He wud be exceptional
Why is this even controversial in anyway? Souness would walk into the Liverpool midfield NOW! He'd be even better with all the sports science around today. One of the best midfielders ever to play the game.
No doubt about it
Anyone who says souness would have struggled now is either wrong or wrong .
@docholiday-lm4vf Why?
He would be a Henderson or Rice in today's game...but he acts like he'd be KDB.
@@MuhammadImHardBruceLee He'sone of the most successful men in world football history. A million miles ahead of Henderson and Rice. What are you talking about? Lol
@jhpfdijtuiweruot Are you a Liverpool fan?
@@MuhammadImHardBruceLee Nope a United season ticket holder for many decades. What's that got to do with anything?
@@MuhammadImHardBruceLee Which specific part of my undeniably factual comment did you mistake for opinion, and made you cry?
Yaya Toure was Souness type
As was Kante, Deschamp, Makelele, Gerrard...they were just tough but very skilled...
Wish Hojberg would listen to Souness. Sick of his negative passing..
he doing tricks on it
With VAR he would be suspended for 80% of our games, he was brutal great but brutal.
Of course he could have played in any era, the only problem these days he'd get sent off in the warm up !
Why is it no other nation talks about Souness being a top player apart from UK...
UK over-hyped their players, and the rest of Europe under rate them.
Because in the uk being “hard” was the only thing valued until recently. The foreign teams liked good players
@@Antonio-hb8rdsure thing, gentile,qoicoxea etc, I've never heard of a British player keeping the boot that broke someone's leg
In Italy, Souness was in the Serie A team of the season alongside Platini, Maradona and Zico. He is well known by the old legends.
he's respected in Italy for sure.
People seem to think football players of today are some kind of super humans. Oh my God, they eat rice and chicken and they have better exercise equipment nowadays. Get tf out of here.
Today's game is much easier - absolutely no doubt
And the money they get is absurd.
Souness would be a Steady Eddie, he would be fine 👍 nothing special, not bad, steady Eddie 👍
He would be a modern Pogba 😂
"oh yea"
Spot on...Skill is no longer part of being a pro just be fit and learn basic passing....Football is awful now...Compare the top 20 players from lets say the year 2000 to now....Think about it apart from messi nobody can dribble anymore,Take corners, Cross the ball the list goes on and on....Football is Trash now its awful to watch sideways passing garbage
KDB :) will be one of the greats
Is
All the goat lovers stick up for pogba!
The closest player to Souness in today's game is Rodri
Yes, mentioned Rodri, maybe Kante then at Chelsea, Makelele at Real, Casimero and his type would hide away...
Science has improved...players havent simple really if messi played in the 50s 60s hed of been the best then ....best garincha later marradona play now theyd be the best just technology and medical science has sky rocketed technique hasnt
There is no technique today except push and run. More about fitness and.sprinting than skill. All we need is for the game to be reduced to 30 mins for average attention span of the modern fan.
Should rename this channel "talk sport gold" every discussion is a repeat from a few days before
Nah.....he'd never stay on the pitch, he'd be too easy to wind up, just bait the hook and watch him go.
At Liverpool, he was never sent off. No-one wound him up.
He did suffer from not having a manager at Rangers which led to some recklessness on the pitch though.
In his era you could commit murder on the pitch and only get a talking to.🤣@@botany500kojak
He would never play a full 90 minutes in todays game. He would be sent off in the first 15/20 mins in every game. You cannot tackle anymore.Even a good challenge in todays game is a possible booking.
He wouldn't be putting in the same tackles if the rules were different. He had more weapons in his armoury than just being a hard tackler
@@matthewjamison COURSE HE WOULD! A good challenge is a good challenge. He was a top player no doubt about it. But in today’s game you cannot tackle anymore.
@@lizard4997 So you think he would get sent off in the first 20 minutes of every game & not learn from it? He's not ret@rded
Clearly weren't born at the time if you think that his hard tackling was the only part of his game that made him one of the most successful men in world football history
They called him the iron fist in a velvet glove. It would be more velvet glove in today's nonsense.
The best british holding player . Period.
So much more than that!
@donaldrussell9406 'Best British anything' is a low bar...
@@MuhammadImHardBruceLee as an American, I love frying the English but fact is fact. I mean he's everything you'd want in a "sitting" player.
@@MuhammadImHardBruceLee The LFC team that he captained was one of the all time greatest sides in world football history. Sorry that doesn't fit into your anti-British narrative
@jhpfdijtuiweruot This hurts my head.
A Nokia was great 20 years ago... Everything as good as a Nokia was great 20 years ago... But it's not anymore...
The bar has been moved, and rather than respect it, people insist the past would also be great today but that's simply not fact.
Why did neither England nor Scotland win anything with these great players?
disagree. the game is played too fast for midfield generalship of souey's style. u can't hold up the ball anymore.
It’s played quicker for a reason….The pitches are like bowling greens. Loads of players from the 80’s would piss todays game. No problem.
Souness would spend most of the season suspended, these days.
No he wouldnt
Graeme, "The President of his own fan club!". Simon, stating facts for a change!
Not many players can match his trophies as a player. He has a right to be cocky
Imagine being so self-absorbed as to think you'd be even close to as good as he thinks he was and then say it out loud for the world to hear. Utter nonsense
People seem to forget ! Sourpuss was the dirtiest player in football ! 😂😂😂
Nobody forgot that and so what?
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot it seems by a lot of comments that people most certainly have dipstick ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@TopGun69 Dipstick? Is that weak playground insult supposed to hurt my feelings? Lol.
So what that he was a tough player? What's your point?
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot big difference between tough and dirty ! 😎
@@TopGun69 He was tough and dirty. So what? What's your point?
Does Simon drop some milk tray after the show finished
I cannot be the only one wondering who 'that' player was 😂
Souness would own Pogba on a pitch.
Correct and right, the lads played on ploughed fields and were drinking inbthe pub after matchs with fans, imagine, Greaves,best,law,hoddle,moore,Gazza,ardiles,dalglish playing now they would dominate
Souness was a psycho! But what a baller.
These kind of players should be given the England job. Not Southgate he is a wimp 😢
He would have been sacked for being a bully and not stay on the pitch for more than 5 minutes without getting sent off 🤦♂️
A bully? Lol. It's football not the playground
@jhpfdijtuiweruot I agree. But football has changed. It's full of primadonna's prancing around. Also the laws are getting stricter on physical contact as well.
@@dom6140 You agree with me for laughing at you? Lol
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot it ain't my fault you were dropped on your head as a baby...
C U Next Tuesday!
They spend way too long talking about Souness regardless of how good a player he used to be, he is a boring pundit.
Doing a Declan rice then
Rice, Casimero, Fernandes wouldn't fancy it....even McAllister at Liverpool (whom I support) wouldn't like to face him...
His moustache wouldnt live in this era
nor that velcro perm 🤣
Sorry to break it to ya lads but neither of these female conversation points are relevant to playing football
@@DjDown1984 footy is a female sport. Rugby is a man's game
@@roathripper again, severe lack of relevancy
@@DjDown1984 if you were around in the eighties, you'd get the references
The bore fest that is Murphy, sucking up to a Liverpool legend.....shock 😮
Thats like saying carl lewis could have run 9.58 if he raced usain bolt in 2009. Maybe. But would he find it a doddle. Only someone as arrogant ss souness would say something like that. The conditioning of the modern playerr is a level above those of the mid 80s and so is the technique of the average premier league player. The equivilent today of an 80s player is a top notch non league player. Christ do they think that the players from the 1930s were as good as those from the mid 1960s. Get over yourself and realise that their has been a steady progrssion in the quality of top tier footballers.
He wouldn't be fit enough. I'm not saying he couldn't be fit enough, but football played then compared to now has changed dramatically. Look at the average distance covered in the 70's, which was between 4 - 7 km, and the modern game is between 7 - 12 km. He would also pick up a red card every game he played in the current game. Prime Souness wouldn't work in today's game; he would have to adapt just like modern KDB would if he went back in time to play in the 70's.
Ridiculous and embarrassing "argument". If he had the same sports science and fitness training as today's players, of course he would be fit enough.
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot It's a perfectly valid argument unless you are a nostalgia merchant who doesn't know how to accept reality. And if you think it's just as easy as getting a sports scientist and extra training, I would argue that your comment is more embarrassing than mine. Anyway, I did state that I was not saying he couldn't be fit enough, so maybe read my comment again slowly.
@@keyjones1678 Well done for continuing with the embarrassing and illogical meltdown. Keep digging >>>
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot Nice attempt at a comeback while saying nothing to prove the contrary. Try harder.
@@keyjones1678 Please continue to obsessively cry about me on the internet instead of saying something logical and interesting about football >>>
I hate this kind of thinking, it's a total waste of energy and time.
I think Pele had a smaller ego than Souness.
Having an ego is an important part of being a successful footballer. Weird thing to be crying about
Glorified scott brown 😂
He wouldnt have thrived. Theres players who will be amazing in any period of time, messi ronaldo Ronaldinho r9 maradonna etc. Not souness gatusso keane type players. Games changed. Players sent off more easy and teammates taking the huff more easy
Pele, wouldn't be any good in the modern game...too slow apparently! 🤔
Maybes aye, maybes naw
Souness is his own biggest fan😂😂😂
Overated is the word that comes to mind
Souness was a great player. Not overrated at all
He was good, but would be sent off every second game
True, he'd have to rein in his game, he'd be told to hold back due to the snowflakes that profilerate the game...
Lol tiki taka bunch of side and back passes
Love Souness, but he'd be sent off nearly every game..not a mans game anymore.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
GOOD ONE 😂😂😂😂
Clearly u dont know football or didn't watch souness. He would be unbelievable in this era.
@@Giri-bp6zj um, no.
@@Giri-bp6zj clearly you are partial to sheep mentality and assume he would be good because someone said he would, good day kiddo👍
@@Giri-bp6zj and don't claim to know anything about souness, giri " 1999 "
what a lot of bull!
Great player, but he always seemed to only assault physically weaker men than himself on the pitch.
No question he'd be an incredible player today.
So he was smart as well as skilful then...
Souness was a thug,,,He was slow . He was and is a Dinosaur with rather Dinosaur thoughts . The Rangers fans did not like him.. He has a track record as a manager. He is better writing for the SUN,,,
Considering Graeme was a top player and a Premier League manager, it's amazing how little he knows about football. It absolutely staggers me!!
He was not a good manager at all.
A proper true great player but average manager at best
@@docholiday-lm4vf 'and a Premier League manager'..
@@docholiday-lm4vf11 trophies as a manager says otherwise
@@docholiday-lm4vf He won around a dozen major trophies as a manager. Nowhere near as bad as you desperately need him to be
He is invariably spot on with his analysis. He couldn't have been more accurate if he tried with his predictions and warnings about Paul Pogba. What do you mean?
No technical ability at all just a brute.every player back then could pass the ball on tht surface.
In 7 years at Liverpool he won 5 leagues, 3 European Cups & 5 League Cups. You don't win all that just being a "brute"
I'm anything but a scouse red but he was a wonderful footballer
No technical ability? Have you seen Souness goals for Liverpool
I have no time whatsoever for Souness - a bully and at times his play was cowardly, but to say he had no technical ability is nonsense. Check his assists for Dalglish ECF 78 and Scotland at Belgium in 80s. Top scorer in EC one season. Also played 2 years in Serie A.
Clearly weren't born at the time and just started watching football recently on your phone
They there so unathletic back then...and played with and against weaker opposition.
Ridiculous comparison. The "slow" Brazil team of 1970 would demolish the Argentina 2022 team. Skill beats speed, anyday!
And played in heavy leather boots and a heavy leather ball on pitchs that resemble sunday league pitchs nowadays also dont forget what happened off the ball and fact wingers would be kicked black n blue. Modern pros would struggle to play game in yester year especially with fact u can actual tackle unlike modern game. old players would thrive using todays boots/balls etc.
@garywallace5602 How has Brazilian football fared in the era of athleticism over skill?
@scottmeehan2422 The modern game is multiples more competitive... Souness is a Nokia, and would have been one of the best Nokias...but he never had to face speed, power, and stamina they have today... He just assumes he'd could.
They were nowhere near as "unathletic" as you desperately need them to be. Can't beleive there's still so many grown men crying about this on the internet