Get rid of the "clear and obvious" nonsense, and get rid of this idea that refs need to "manage the game". Their job is to simply enforce the rules, nothing else. If it means 5 red cards, so be it.
Gary's sales approach: "I breathe air, throughout my career I breathed air and learned that breathing air keeps me alive. Make sure you breathe air at this moment in time, as it will stop you from dying"
Nobody can make me dislike Wrighty. Man spreads nothing but love and positivity. Always goes out of his way to show love and acknowledge staff and crew.
Whatever you think about prem refereeing, its impressive to see how well Howard articulated answers to those questions for over an hour. They were all technical and difficult to answer, and he took every one of them. Seems like a decent, honest bloke
Well done for realising why he got the job. He is a great front man...however, his refs are the worst in Europe. Podcasts and interviews is the least important part of his job.
I had one the other day with a slice of bread, but I sort of warmed the bread up so it was a bit crispy then put butter on it and it all melted in to it... Have you ever warmed up bread? You should try it.
The main issue I have at the moment is “mate” - Webb kept saying don’t want to throw Mate under the bus. Other ex refs have said didn’t want to overturn at VAR due to mate. VAR needs to have specialists that are just VAR and not connected to the refs on the field
100%. They need to make an independent decision. In the instance it's a penalty call that the ref missed, they need to call the ref over to review, the ref will still have the ultimate power to overturn var
@@LAndrewNext But that's re-refereeing the game. If that happens, the ref will be going to the monitors 4/5 times a game, and most of the time won't be changing his decision. Waste of time, slows the game down, and pisses off the crowd
What they say doesn't even make sense. If my mate made a mistake I would help him and sent him to var so he corrects himself and then people wouldn't moan but just because they ignore the mistakes then the ref gets all the criticism. They are adding pressure to their mates themselves instead of protecting them
Well spoken, yes. However, you cannot overlook that broadcasters are covering inconsistencies in referees decisions and not critiquing them. The same issues are ever present each season. This likeable chap and his incompetent group of ‘mates’ are destroying your leagues reputation. Such issues are not overly present in other leagues. Wonder why…
Making referees more relatable is definitely a move forward! Admitting mistakes, recognising mistakes will happen, and explaining how rules are applied. Especially the yellow card difference in Rice/Trossard vs Szoboszlai occasions. Not everyone will agree, but the explanation needs to be given. In a relatable, simple way. 💯
6:38 anyone notice Roy's look over to Gary after Howard webb said 'its never a yellow' 😂 Roy remembering that tackle he did on haaland and still blaming gary for it being a red card 😂😂
@@bbergin45 This isn't "all workplaces" This is the biggest league in the world with hundreds of livelihoods and trophies at stake...its a startling admission and something that ought to be investigated.
As a life long United supporter I've always liked Gary but his media carreer and, more specifically, bringing something like "The Overlap" and now the "Stick to football" podcast to life has got to be his biggest achievement. This is so much fun and an insight we just can't get anywhere else. Please keep it up because it is a gem. Cheers.
This is incredible content. When do you ever get the chance on TV to hear such an in-depth conversation covering everything we’ve wondered about regarding refereeing?
Howard did something similar on talksport last season. It was about 40mins of him giving analysis about decisions and what they needed to do to improve the game. You should look it up
The thing about all this is that at least one (typically more than 1) of all these elaborate rules will be broken within the first 30 minutes of the early kickoff Saturday game.
*Sponsors* : "Gary, at 17:25 we'd like you to open one of our drinks right next to your microphone. Don't worry, the sound engineer will leave it in. Just take a sip. After that you won't need to drink it again." *Gary* : "Absolutely no problem."
I don't want VAR gone Gary! Don't speak for all of us. I personally just want it to be faster more clear with understanding of the rules and a better quality of ref in the VAR Cockpit!
The Diaz question was not answered, I dont hear them asking how Referees are allocated for the big games, how one specific referee is handed 22% of a team's matches in a season compared to others ..this panel never asked real questions
Seeing Gary give the explanation re the Kyle Walker incident was interesting. Perhaps an example of where understanding the game a bit better might help referees.
I think the old United are seeing and getting to enjoy the other side of Roy now. When he was captain I think there wasn't much room for being so relaxed and funny. It's really special.
Really don’t get why VAR isn’t like video ref in rugby league. It’s clean it’s clear to the fans in the stadium and those at home , voice commentary of the decision making process so we understand what they are looking for. Why is VAR so so mechanical and cold?
Ex players saying “we don’t want to see yellow/red cards for kicking the ball away”, but for once Howard’s got it right with “just don’t kick the ball away”. Also more need to be done with goalkeeper time wasting. I disagree with Howard’s viewpoint of ‘judge the decisions by the time within the game”. If a team are time wasting from the first minute to try and get a draw or steal a win then they should be cautioned for it. Goalkeeper wasting time in the 10th minute is the same as time wasting in the 88th minute. Yet it’s never cautioned early on.
I always think that’s a strange part about refereeing. How many teams have you seen a blatant yellow not given because it’s the first 5-10 minutes of a game.
Rooney is spot on with Veltman and I am glad someone in the media finally said it! He meant to kick Rice and should have been sent off for violent conduct!
27:43 Right. I don't know what he's complaining about. Kyle Walker was back on time and was right there with Martinelli when he kicked the ball to Calafiori for the goal.
@@jackiemukolwe9122 I mean he gives a really detailed explanation of it. Walker wasn’t fully back in position and set so wasn’t able to do his job fully.
@@rikachu571 Yeah, but it was detailed explanation of a not so controversial moment, referees have for years been calling players over, this time it led to a goal but not even directly from the mistake of Kyle Walker?! Martinelli literally ran forward and passed it back towards the direction of Arsenals half to a left back lol Howard Webb even said no one thought that would be as controversial as it came out to be. Fairly small thing to be crying over by Gary
@@rikachu571so everyone should wait for walker to turn around,speak to dias and akanji then go back to the touchline before play restarts? He did two of those as well 😂
Neville: 'why are goalkeepers allowed to waste 6 seconds'... Also Neville 'every player should be allowed a few mins to get into position. Maybe check they are OK and don't need a wee before the kick is taken'.
What law change would you like to see? 🤔
A law that says you can only eat custard creams if you dunk them in tea first.
No more Wazza.
Get rid of the "clear and obvious" nonsense, and get rid of this idea that refs need to "manage the game". Their job is to simply enforce the rules, nothing else. If it means 5 red cards, so be it.
A law to ban referees from going on podcasts.
VAR not being able to intervene on 2nd Yellows
Gary's sales approach: "I breathe air, throughout my career I breathed air and learned that breathing air keeps me alive. Make sure you breathe air at this moment in time, as it will stop you from dying"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I read that in his voice lol
😂😂😂😂
So accurate 😂😂
You forgot to add "whereby"
Gary Neville's advertising skills.... Sounds like he's reading a "please release my family" plea given to him by detectives one minute earlier.
Hostage vibes all over lol
Thought the exact same 🤣
Still way better than Butt and Scholes 😂
@@davidgerrard8661those two charisma vacuums....
😂😂😂😂😂 brilliant 👏
Always great to see old team mates like Gary, Wayne, and Howard link up
🤣
That old chestnut
😂
This tickled me
You should do stand-up. Cutting edge comedy
Nobody can make me dislike Wrighty. Man spreads nothing but love and positivity. Always goes out of his way to show love and acknowledge staff and crew.
Great human being, never forgot his roots and treats everyone the same. He's a great guy
Also talks over everyone
He said he doesn’t care if he breaks the cameras lol
He's annoying actually.
Whatever you think about prem refereeing, its impressive to see how well Howard articulated answers to those questions for over an hour. They were all technical and difficult to answer, and he took every one of them. Seems like a decent, honest bloke
Well done for realising why he got the job.
He is a great front man...however, his refs are the worst in Europe.
Podcasts and interviews is the least important part of his job.
He used to be a copper too, so his communication skills are second a nature.
Articulates contradictory statements you mean. He’s a waffler basically and you fell for it
Agreed til we got to “honest”…
Anything but honest!!!! The man spouts lies
Has anyone ever dunked a custard cream in a cup of tea? Aye Gary, 99% of the UK population I’d imagine.
id say 80%..the other 20% pulls it apart and scrapes the cream out with their teeth..dont tell gary though, it will blow his mind
I like to have mini periods of rest, whereby I go away for a few days or a week, and just unwind and relax. It really helps keep you fresh.
@@詹姆斯-k2kWoah,bro goes on holiday
@@詹姆斯-k2k Like a mini-retirement?
Has anyone ever breathed oxygen? Oh my god, unbelievable.
"Have you ever drunk a glass of water? Has anyone ever done that?. Unbelievable"
Just tried it , bit mushy at the bottom 0f the tea, I thought you got more dunk time with CCs, but mission completed 😁
Incredible comment.
I had one the other day with a slice of bread, but I sort of warmed the bread up so it was a bit crispy then put butter on it and it all melted in to it... Have you ever warmed up bread? You should try it.
@@Vandalle. They need to give that a name. "Crispy warm bread" maybe.
@@simonc4077 I can't think of a single better thing to call it. You've nailed it.
Gary Neville thinking he’s the only one to ever dunk a custard cream
U have to dunk custards mate
All professional footballers live in a bubble
"Unbelievable" 😂😂 rest of us were busy making ourselves prediabetic idk about you Gaz
He is such a rebel. Complete knob
Has anyone ever had salt on chips? Unbelievable that.
You see Kieran just walk off quietly after they’ve all forgotten to answer his question 😂❤
Na his question got answered, and I was happy to hear it. They might open up comms. for Fa Cup games
Love this podcast, makes me forget my cancer for a while
Stay strong and keep the faith ❤
❤ stay positive. Hope it all works out ❤🙏🏾
Stay strong dude 👍
Please go read the new studies about Ivermectin. Then find the protocol. I wish you all the best.
💙💪🏻
Its like the 2000s again. Man utd players all round the ref 😂
That's a good one.
Brilliant
😂😂😂😂
yer exactly all around their *2nd DADDY*
That’s a winner 🏆
Why do all referees seem to have that copper vibe about em? Howard Webb would deffo be CID if he wasn't VAR
Pretty sure he’s an ex-copper. Reeks of it!
@@danieldefoe7590 South Yorkshire Police.
Yes, *them*.
He was a copper that’s why 😂
True dat
Ellery was a school principle or something.
Going to try dunking a custard cream. I've never, ever thought of that in my entire life. Always learning
😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's a revelation 😂
Steady on lad, you’ll be needing a mini-retirement after that level of excitement
😂😂😂😂
Something you need to try at this moment in time
When Roy said "What's funny about that?" I thought he was going to do a Joe Pesci in Goodfellas from the scene in the restaurant 🤣🤣🤣
Funny how!?
Look up "Roy Keane Goodfellas"
@@TheflamingP take my like good sir 😂
He does kinda look like a younger version of Joe Pesci too lol
The way I look? Do I amuse you? Am I a clown too you?
Gary having an issue with the Kyle walker free kick situation but then suggesting rolling subs is comical. Glad Rooney called him out on it
The main issue I have at the moment is “mate” - Webb kept saying don’t want to throw Mate under the bus. Other ex refs have said didn’t want to overturn at VAR due to mate.
VAR needs to have specialists that are just VAR and not connected to the refs on the field
100%. They need to make an independent decision.
In the instance it's a penalty call that the ref missed, they need to call the ref over to review, the ref will still have the ultimate power to overturn var
@@LAndrewNext But that's re-refereeing the game. If that happens, the ref will be going to the monitors 4/5 times a game, and most of the time won't be changing his decision. Waste of time, slows the game down, and pisses off the crowd
@darraghoconnor9072 off sides and penalty calls only. The forth official could review. And play can continue
@@LAndrewNext You mean the guy on the sideline holding up the board for substitutions?
What they say doesn't even make sense. If my mate made a mistake I would help him and sent him to var so he corrects himself and then people wouldn't moan but just because they ignore the mistakes then the ref gets all the criticism. They are adding pressure to their mates themselves instead of protecting them
He actually reffed this conversation 😂
he fkn did lol. he played well, solid 8/10
Roy's mantra at his new role as a FIFA executive "Just do your job" 🤣
I like Howard, great personality, well spoken, articulate and a likeable chap, glad you got him on.
Well spoken, yes. However, you cannot overlook that broadcasters are covering inconsistencies in referees decisions and not critiquing them. The same issues are ever present each season. This likeable chap and his incompetent group of ‘mates’ are destroying your leagues reputation. Such issues are not overly present in other leagues. Wonder why…
Making referees more relatable is definitely a move forward! Admitting mistakes, recognising mistakes will happen, and explaining how rules are applied. Especially the yellow card difference in Rice/Trossard vs Szoboszlai occasions. Not everyone will agree, but the explanation needs to be given. In a relatable, simple way. 💯
6:38 anyone notice Roy's look over to Gary after Howard webb said 'its never a yellow' 😂 Roy remembering that tackle he did on haaland and still blaming gary for it being a red card 😂😂
Its crazy how they're not willing to say something because you dont want to offend your mate, if it's wrong you should correct them.
They've acknowledged it and are trying to improve it. This happens in all workplaces.
4th official can't change a refs decision in the moment. Has nothing to gain by telling a manager during the game that it was the wrong call
@@darraghoconnor9072 It's like these guys can't understand basic English. Just looking for reasons to complain.
be honest would you slate your mate on a podcast which is going to be viewed by millions
Gary will ya ever get Denis irwin on the show!! Get him to see this. Keano would love it and everyone else
Please don't
Gary has seen it. We did it loveeeeee it 👍
@@Seanklp120 yeah right, The Overlap account was run by Garry 😂
@@SongofIceandTea garry who's that ?
Would love it to see more united tears in the comments😂
This is one of the most interesting episodes I have ever watched. Brilliant. Thank you GN and the team
Great episode, Howard was very articulate and informative, made for a great discussion.
Why can’t the referees request their own review of the monitor if they have doubts
Would take all day
Roy is so incredibly respectful when he asks questions with Howard, but Gary is always confrontational!
@@uc6115 totally agree!
Love this show its lowkey therapy to have it playing in the background whilst you doing chores
Chores? What, like watching Man Utd?
My chore is playing FM24 looool
“ you can see how forgiving we are” - Roy… really sums up his sense of humour. love it!
Brilliant. One of my favourite episodes, a really good insight and look behind the curtain. Webb came across really well.
Howard Webb more assists at Old Trafford than Neville does!
🤣🤣
So original, that's a great mind you have. Smh
🥱🥱 yeah so he reffed every United game did he ?
Belter
Not a chance
The other projects are interesting, but nothing beats the Roy & Wrighty Show!
One of Webb's opening lines: Don't want to throw your mate under the bus as a 4th official. Is this not undeniable proof of the issues in referring...
Its extraordinary that a comment like that is glossed over by these ex-pro's.....I'd have expected better of Wrighty at least...
@@dontbewoke It’s absolutely crazy isn’t it
Yes, this happens in all workplaces. He acknowledged it and is trying to make it better.
@@bbergin45 This isn't "all workplaces" This is the biggest league in the world with hundreds of livelihoods and trophies at stake...its a startling admission and something that ought to be investigated.
@@dontbewokeit's football it's not someone getting sentenced to death row, chill out on the overreaction
Glad to see an interview of a referee, very interesting to hear their point of view
As a life long United supporter I've always liked Gary but his media carreer and, more specifically, bringing something like "The Overlap" and now the "Stick to football" podcast to life has got to be his biggest achievement. This is so much fun and an insight we just can't get anywhere else. Please keep it up because it is a gem. Cheers.
Gary Neville “has anyone ever tried breathing oxygen?”
What a unique comment.
Well original that mate, give yourself a day off you've won a whole internet point
Some people should try stopping
Does anyone know what it's like when you get up in the morning, get dressed then go to work? Has anyone ever done it?? Its unbelievable.
This is incredible content. When do you ever get the chance on TV to hear such an in-depth conversation covering everything we’ve wondered about regarding refereeing?
You don't which is why it's a dead media format
Well done Overlap team!
Howard did something similar on talksport last season. It was about 40mins of him giving analysis about decisions and what they needed to do to improve the game. You should look it up
"I won't send you off if you give me your jersey" Roy Keane must live forever 😂😂
The respect they all have for Wayne personally and his career is so good to see.
Loved this debate brilliant watch. The overlap is a great watch. Fantastic to have more content on this season.
Gary, a treble winning right back AND a biscuit dunking pioneer. Incredible contribution.
The thing about all this is that at least one (typically more than 1) of all these elaborate rules will be broken within the first 30 minutes of the early kickoff Saturday game.
22:11 so Rice’s sending of was justified by “it being to the letter of the law” but the letter of the law justification is thrown out the window here…
Womp womp
No way Arsenal fans are still in tears about that
@@Jamesss16tbf pointing out hypocrisy and inconsistency isn’t a bad thing.
Really enjoyed this episode. Good to see an explanation from the official’s perspective 👍🏻
Good to see howard webb having a catch-up with his old team mates roy, wayne and gary
Gill’s got skills
Only decent thing she’s ever done on the show
@@crimsonknightuk Where's your international tournament trophy?
You should be a poet
@@yungen_leem He said "on he show".
@@crimsonknightuk finally someone said it
*Sponsors* : "Gary, at 17:25 we'd like you to open one of our drinks right next to your microphone. Don't worry, the sound engineer will leave it in. Just take a sip. After that you won't need to drink it again."
*Gary* : "Absolutely no problem."
Perfectly timed for when web mentioned BT sport.
Keano not impressed
22:23 - I’m sorry the city player was down on the floor so no delay to the restart
Oh, it's okay, you don't need to apologise
I don't want VAR gone Gary! Don't speak for all of us. I personally just want it to be faster more clear with understanding of the rules and a better quality of ref in the VAR Cockpit!
RK's comment "No, this is the real low!" was a brilliant critique on this episode - with a referee 🙃
Cracking episode, always good to hear the perspective from the "other side".
Respect your referee, or there would be no game to play.
Say it louder brother
Harder to respect bad decisions every single week
0:18 that’s not a jammy dodger that’s a fox’s jam cream
fantastic vision
Prime messi
Which are far superior to Jammie Dodgers anyway. Jammie Dodgers are too doughy.
Noticed too. A travesty.
😊 b NZ 0:29 @@joebridgeman5922
First 5 mins and Howard Webb is already talking about refs not wanted to throw their mates under the bus
Of course they don't that's how life works mate
@@makintageBasically we should all keep quiet and applaud corruption🤣?
100% It's what fans have been saying stinks about Var!
@@makintageit’s a job not a mates club.
You sound like B-hatch who's grassing on everyone to HR!... and you know what snitches get.
Fantastic guest,always rated Howard as a ref and seems to be the right man for the the job as far as VAR is concerned ..great insights and chat.
Big man. Love that he stood up and did that. Makes it respectful between the two. Love it.
Would’ve liked to hear Carragher ask Webb about Ryan Babel.
The Diaz question was not answered, I dont hear them asking how Referees are allocated for the big games, how one specific referee is handed 22% of a team's matches in a season compared to others ..this panel never asked real questions
What happened?
@@steffanjones3159yh
Had Wrighty banging on about the Pedro yellow/non yellow
@@steffanjones3159 Ryan Babel once shared a photoshopped picture of Webb in a man utd shirt on twitter and he got fined.
Gary is a real living Alan Partridge..... Flogging brands on his own show ...🤣🤣🤣 Car brand driving gloves incoming...
He was literally in India flogging tyres today
The fact that Coogan can't hide his Manc accent when he's playing Partridge only makes them sound more similar.
They need to do a night time version of this. Bottles of Peroni and pub snacks
And Charlie
@@ste2442 lol
@@dontbewoke Charlie Adam , great player 👀😂
@@ste2442 exactly what I thought you meant 😉
@@dontbewoke sound 😂😂
Howard Webb is very well spoken. Expresses himself clearly without equivocation.
Really good episode. Need to get him on once every now and again. Comes across very well.
Nobody asked for the delaying the restart rule just add more time on. Unless the broadcasters are saying no
Ahhh the lads back together again... They achieved so much back in the day 👏😅
Kieran has the patience of a saint! 😜
Very good to hear Howard speak like he has done for this and really interesting thoughts and stories.
Howard Webb came across very well here, personable, admits to human error and can be witty.
If ye can’t find a guest some week, do a podcast with Kieran
Seeing Gary give the explanation re the Kyle Walker incident was interesting. Perhaps an example of where understanding the game a bit better might help referees.
Surprised it took this long to get this United agent on.
I think the old United are seeing and getting to enjoy the other side of Roy now. When he was captain I think there wasn't much room for being so relaxed and funny. It's really special.
Gary describing the 30 second injury rule literally is what happened with de ligt at the weekend
Really enjoyed this episode!
Really don’t get why VAR isn’t like video ref in rugby league. It’s clean it’s clear to the fans in the stadium and those at home , voice commentary of the decision making process so we understand what they are looking for. Why is VAR so so mechanical and cold?
So nice to see all the former Utd legends back together
Great idea to have Howard as a guest, brilliant episode.
This was excellent! One of the best guest they’ve had. 🙏🏾
Gary knows about biscuits; he is such a normal bloke isn’t he.
This feels like when the teacher tries to hang out and relate with the Students on a school trip
Howard spoke really well and intelligently, great listen
Extraordinary program and guest..informative and entertaining..many many thanks
This podcast keeps getting better 👍🏼
I don't care if these were filmed when league football was on break 😂, management is clearly Wayne Rooney's side hustle 😂
What because he's recording a podcast for a couple of hours every few weeks? Helps Plymouth's profile even more if anything
Ex players saying “we don’t want to see yellow/red cards for kicking the ball away”, but for once Howard’s got it right with “just don’t kick the ball away”.
Also more need to be done with goalkeeper time wasting. I disagree with Howard’s viewpoint of ‘judge the decisions by the time within the game”. If a team are time wasting from the first minute to try and get a draw or steal a win then they should be cautioned for it. Goalkeeper wasting time in the 10th minute is the same as time wasting in the 88th minute. Yet it’s never cautioned early on.
I always think that’s a strange part about refereeing. How many teams have you seen a blatant yellow not given because it’s the first 5-10 minutes of a game.
3:37 podcast starts
Starts @ 3:38 mate
You’ve edited from you previous claim of starting at 10:00.
Glad I ain’t the only one lol 🤣
@@callumlucas4444 bro what are you on about
Every time the guest is a United legend... Let's change it up a bit guys!!
This show has filled a massive hole in the game, brilliant stuff.
Rooney is spot on with Veltman and I am glad someone in the media finally said it! He meant to kick Rice and should have been sent off for violent conduct!
Only Gary Neville would think that strike from Calafuri from 25 yards should be chalked off 🤣🤣🤣
27:43 Right. I don't know what he's complaining about. Kyle Walker was back on time and was right there with Martinelli when he kicked the ball to Calafiori for the goal.
@@jackiemukolwe9122 I mean he gives a really detailed explanation of it. Walker wasn’t fully back in position and set so wasn’t able to do his job fully.
@@rikachu571 Yeah, but it was detailed explanation of a not so controversial moment, referees have for years been calling players over, this time it led to a goal but not even directly from the mistake of Kyle Walker?! Martinelli literally ran forward and passed it back towards the direction of Arsenals half to a left back lol
Howard Webb even said no one thought that would be as controversial as it came out to be. Fairly small thing to be crying over by Gary
@@rikachu571so everyone should wait for walker to turn around,speak to dias and akanji then go back to the touchline before play restarts?
He did two of those as well 😂
Neville: 'why are goalkeepers allowed to waste 6 seconds'...
Also Neville 'every player should be allowed a few mins to get into position. Maybe check they are OK and don't need a wee before the kick is taken'.
The real United Legend is here
Loving this session❤❤❤. Please invite more referees to this show 🎉 great to see the views from Mr Webb, as I’m a referee myself
Speaks really well Webb seems a good bloke
41:10 Every introvert at a party
One of the best episodes
Howard Webb is very well spoken
Fair play to Howard Webb for coming on the show!
this programme always makes me fancy a cup of tea
51:42 De Ligt a couple of days later vs Brentford. 👀 Luckily it didn't impact the result.
Neville has proclaimed himself as the official spokesman for football.
Hes getting anoying
Arguably the biggest United legend they’ve ever had on.
They add Howard to the panel full time!
I really enjoyed this episode, very rarely do we get to hear the ref side of things, nice to hear a different perspective.