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This is completely off topic. I just wanted to tell you what an excellent communicator you are. I think creating RUclips content really suits you and I enjoy your videos.
I agree, He has many talents and is very mechanical as well he fixes just about anything and could easily open a solar shop or just about anything. He could be a mobile mechanic but that means always traveling and a 9-5
I looked in to work camping a few years ago, for something to do when I retired. The one con that made me not chose to do it was being locked to one location. Now that I'm retired, I love the freeness of being able to just strike camp and move on to someplace new.
Great articulate video. You're certainly gifted. You hit the nail on the head with the co-worker drama. My wife and I worked the summer of 2022 from our RV in a national park. It was fun getting to know all the co-workers, but we also experienced a couple of blowups and people leaving. I guess it goes with the territory. Thanks for the thoughtful content.
Good insight. As you say, everyone's experience is different. Here's ours. For the last four years, we have camp hosted at a State Park in MD. It works for us. Being retired military with a 30 year pension, we are ok with hosting in a purely volunteer manner. We get a free site and we consider it the best site in the camp. No sites next to us and we back up on a small creek. The one con is we only have electric at the site. The nearest water point is about 30 feet away, so we fill up about once a week, use the bath house as much as possible and dump with a blue boy every two weeks or so. The work is perfect for us. Cleaning sites, greeting and helping the campers, filling the wood shed, preparing the day's permits and other basic maintenance and landscaping as needed. We don't have to clean the bath house, just check the consumables and report any "messes". Another pro for us working here is we are close to our two adult daughters and still do all of our medical out of the National Capitol Area. We usually stay for anywhere from a month to three months. After that, our nomadic spirit kicks in and we must move on and do other things. Our requirement for the site is 20 hours of work a week. We will keep doing this as long as they keep having us.
I was a camp host in sisters Oregon a couple summers ago. My position was known as a roving camp host. I was given a Deschutes county company truck and I drove to five different campgrounds and checked the iron horses for payment and cleaned up campsites and bathrooms. Oregon minimum wage is a little higher than in most states so I think it was 13 or 14. It was a great summer. Having multiple campgrounds to play with and socialize was awesome. I think less popular places might be more beneficial than you might think.
Well David, for me the cons heavily outweighed the pros. I know you tried to present both sides but for me, I would never work in a situation like that. But it was eye-opening.
I appreciate your ability to articulate so clearly what you are experiencing and share it with the many of us that end up watching! Keep up the good work!!!
Great video and information. I had previously thought that work camping might be a good option in retirement but this has made me think again. Really liked all of the scenery changes and the mic sounds fantastic.
Great review of what most of us would consider a "typical" workcamp type of positions. Hope you find the community you both need along with the work opportunities that allow you to continue travelling. Appreciate the work you put into your content - thank you.
Hello again David. My wife and I have been following your channel for 5 years. We appreciate your honesty! We have work camped for the past 3 years. We're full-time also. Heading to Rocky Mountain National Park in the Spring 2025 for a new work camping job and opportunity to visit and explore the wilderness in Colorado. We do experience the very same things of everyday living where you work. But in life, there is pros and cons to everything. One huge pro with work camping imo, it's temporary. If it's terrible, you can leave. If it's just okay, the season is short and there's an endpoint. We love this. You don't have this option when you have a mortgage with bills and a full-time job. You also show how much you love your wife to find compromise with what she needs. You're a good man! Have a great rest of your stay and you both enjoy your next adventure together! 😊
@AllthatMatters-g6c I do not idolize them. A compliment is not idolizing. From the perspective of the viewers, he loves his wife. We do not know the facts of their marriage, we are not family or personal friends. You hearing that he cheated on his wife is just gossip. Please know the facts before making judgmental comments.
Great work camp review👍🏻 life in general has its pros and cons and cons and pros not just work camping. I’m 💯% like you I can camp out in the middle of nowhere and be as happy as a tornado in a trailer park. But my wife not so much, her idea of camping is full hookups swimming pool, tennis courts, restaurants, and shopping nearby.😞 😂 even marriage has its pros and cons and cons and pros. I really enjoyed that you were honest and laid it all out there 👍🏻 it would be nice to pay monthly camping and get a part time job in town for the season making better money and still have a great adventure, I’m retired and have a income… I’m not sure what the pros and cons and cons and pros of that would be for a young couple like you guys. Wish you guys the very best.
I'm working right down the road from you. It’s the workcamping campground. Been fun but everyone is working so not much so little socializing. I'm getting ready to go to my next gig. Then who knows!!
I haven’t work camped before, but my wife is a travel nurse, so it would need to align with her contracts. I’ll tell you though, after listening to your review, most of the cons didn’t even sound that bad. And forget working at McDonald's-been there, done that. I lasted two days when I was 15, and the drama was unreal. Honestly, what matters more than a few extra bucks per hour is the lifestyle. I’d much rather work at a campground in the woods outside Yellowstone for $13 an hour (which, by the way, isn’t terrible considering Wyoming’s minimum wage is around $7.25) than at McDonald’s in the city. Why go through that only to return to a cramped RV park that’s basically a parking lot? The whole point of getting into this lifestyle for most of us is to break away from the city grind and live closer to nature. But Hey David, great review and enjoyed listing to you perspective!
Great and thorough perspective, David. Well said. Thanks for the insight. I've often thought about work camping but of course have not transitioned to full time yet so it's a bit of a moot point.
A good benefit the owner could have extended was a free week at the end of the season so you could enjoy the park. If that's not possible, then the Con's out way the Pro's, in my opinion.
Hi David, thanks for the video. There are many types of work camping positions with various responsibilities and hours required per week. The trick is to find the sweet spot that gives you the pay commensurate with the duties expected and enough time off to see the local sites. I can see $13/hour would be ok for just collecting fees and cleaning the bathrooms a few times a day but not for someone skilled in mechanics and electrical issues. Those are highly skilled positions and worth a lot more. Life is nothing but a learning experience and you and Roe have certainly learned from this experience. More sweetie please. Take care
Great video, we have been volunteer host for 5 years , we decided to not take paid positions, our compensation is a free spot. Nice thing about that is hours are a lot less, so this lets us visit the area. Our current gig is three days on four days off. Sorry to hear about the bad experience with fellow workers.
So did you guys get rid of your Lectric bikes? Seemed like you were riding them a lot… or did you part with them when you moved back into sticks and bricks?
In my nearly four years of work camping in various states you’ve described similar situations and circumstances. This year was the first summer gig that was actually great, I got paid a great wage and received benefits. I’d like to suggest looking for seasonal jobs with state parks & become an employee. Look into it. Thx for sharing your pro & con experience.
I am not surprised at the discoveries, for one this campground considers it a full time job as some camp grounds are not as large nor as demanding and don't require the amount of daily time put in. Retired friends of mine ( well actually of my dads and his age at the time ) did a couple of summers of "camp hosting" up in northern Washington by a lake and I believe they put in 4 to 5 hours a day but I can't claim they got paid anything as I think it was more about covering their campsite. They were not doing it for money, it was just to be in a place that was not hotter than hell like Phoenix area of Arizona during the summer and they also were originally from Washington anyway. The husband got the short end of the stick though, his job was to mow the whole grass area and with all the dirt around of skimpy grass areas he would be black with dirt and the front mount mower had seen better days so was always messing with it to keep it running. On the plus side they were both people persons so had a good interaction with those that came to camp there and make the campers feel welcome.
I can see workkamping being pretty challenging. Just like any other form of employment I'm sure some places to workkamp are better than others. Keep the good stuff coming David and say hey to Roe.
Sounds like a regular job. My husband worked for decades 50-60 hours a week. That is called work. Sorry i do not feel bad for your 40-45 hours. 401k for not permanent work? I can’t imagine getting 401k for work camping. I do admire your maintenance work that you did. I enjoyed watching that. And there is always work drama at work. All you can do is let it pass over your head. The weather…..think about all the outdoor people who work…construction, traffic monitors. Pouring rain. Love your dog though. What a sweetie
I work camp in the reservations office. I’ve actually had campers come to our site when I’m not working and ask me to go to the office and check availability for them. That’s a big con for me.
Try the other side of the lake. Camp for free.Learn how to fly fish and You're evenings will be well spent. When you two are done there head to the lower Colorado ,Picacho SRA,. We camp Host there, I'll set two up with a camp sight. Take Picacho Rd to the Colorado river and the campground, 18 miles of desert Rd NOT INDIAN PASS RD
We stayed at that campground 2 summer's ago. The road was a terrible, very washboard . Is it any better now? And we were sad when we got there and were told we couldn't leave our dogs in the rv when we go. So we followed the rules, and since we were with our son and daughter-in-law, we stayed there and watched their dogs while they went to Yellowstone, but one night, a big class A that was right near the office had dogs and they were in the rv alone and barking like crazy. So we decided we would go to Yellowstone. Also, nobody said anything about the dogs being left behind. Is this still their rules ?
Wyoming doesn't have a state income tax while Montana doesn't have a sales tax. But West Yellowstone Montana created a sales tax. Running to Bozeman is time consuming.
What is the actual daily work being done? (I would assume trash collection, perhaps checking campers in and out? Maybe trail clearing? - What other types of things make up a typical day? For example, litter pickup for an hour, collecting trash for 2 hours, working the entry gate for an hour, etc? Thanks
Cleaning fire pits, bathrooms & showers (campers can be NASTY with personal habits), cleaning cabins, yurts, moving logs & downed branches, plumbing, mowing, weed whacking, tree trimming, raking, blowing leaves, picking up trash, cleaning porta potties, being on call after your official shift ends, etc. and you work in the rain, heat, cold. The campsite isn't free. It's considered part of your compensation package. That's why wages are so low. Sometimes there are no wages as hosts work as volunteers. Sometimes there aren't enough work campers and you may end up doing the work of two, four or more people while you wait for help to arrive. For the most part, it sucks. Some places are better than others, but they are hard to find.
@@CeruleanSky1111 Wow - Thanks for the skinny on this. After learning the details, I think it would take a certain type of person to wait in line to do the gig. Definitely not for everyone it sounds like. Of course, if folks would just not sign up to do it, these sites would have to choose between paying more money, doing things themselves, or closing down. Sounds like any one of those options would work out.
Surprised you didn't mention a wifi range extender as an option to reach campground wifi. About 2 months of ATT data would pay for that extender device.
for me this video fell flat. you talked about work but never showed what you do. I have enjoyed your videos in the past but for me , this was not memorable. sorry.
@@glendalab7567 right, my wife told me right after. RUclips notifies us when subscribed on some sights and forget others when they have a new video . Just glad I did not give the video a hands down .
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This is completely off topic. I just wanted to tell you what an excellent communicator you are. I think creating RUclips content really suits you and I enjoy your videos.
I agree, He has many talents and is very mechanical as well he fixes just about anything and could easily open a solar shop or just about anything. He could be a mobile mechanic but that means always traveling and a 9-5
Well said, Janna! I completely agree 😊
I looked in to work camping a few years ago, for something to do when I retired. The one con that made me not chose to do it was being locked to one location. Now that I'm retired, I love the freeness of being able to just strike camp and move on to someplace new.
You are NEVER locked in. We do one month at a time at Florida State parks then go home when we want.
And we only volunteer 24 hours a week for the site
Great articulate video. You're certainly gifted. You hit the nail on the head with the co-worker drama. My wife and I worked the summer of 2022 from our RV in a national park. It was fun getting to know all the co-workers, but we also experienced a couple of blowups and people leaving. I guess it goes with the territory. Thanks for the thoughtful content.
Good insight. As you say, everyone's experience is different. Here's ours. For the last four years, we have camp hosted at a State Park in MD. It works for us. Being retired military with a 30 year pension, we are ok with hosting in a purely volunteer manner. We get a free site and we consider it the best site in the camp. No sites next to us and we back up on a small creek. The one con is we only have electric at the site. The nearest water point is about 30 feet away, so we fill up about once a week, use the bath house as much as possible and dump with a blue boy every two weeks or so. The work is perfect for us. Cleaning sites, greeting and helping the campers, filling the wood shed, preparing the day's permits and other basic maintenance and landscaping as needed. We don't have to clean the bath house, just check the consumables and report any "messes". Another pro for us working here is we are close to our two adult daughters and still do all of our medical out of the National Capitol Area. We usually stay for anywhere from a month to three months. After that, our nomadic spirit kicks in and we must move on and do other things. Our requirement for the site is 20 hours of work a week. We will keep doing this as long as they keep having us.
I was a camp host in sisters Oregon a couple summers ago. My position was known as a roving camp host. I was given a Deschutes county company truck and I drove to five different campgrounds and checked the iron horses for payment and cleaned up campsites and bathrooms. Oregon minimum wage is a little higher than in most states so I think it was 13 or 14. It was a great summer. Having multiple campgrounds to play with and socialize was awesome. I think less popular places might be more beneficial than you might think.
I stayed at the head of the metolius several years ago and lived in Bend. It is an amazing area.
Thanks for the clarity on the pro’s and the con’s of workcamping.
You're welcome!
Well David, for me the cons heavily outweighed the pros. I know you tried to present both sides but for me, I would never work in a situation like that. But it was eye-opening.
Valuable info; thanks! And I'm going to look into the offerings of your sponsors; they looked really good.
I appreciate your ability to articulate so clearly what you are experiencing and share it with the many of us that end up watching! Keep up the good work!!!
Great video and information. I had previously thought that work camping might be a good option in retirement but this has made me think again. Really liked all of the scenery changes and the mic sounds fantastic.
Very clear pros and cons for your venture here. Great info. Thanks for the vid! Stay warm.
This was a wonderfully informative video, thanks David! I love the way you moved locations every few minutes and love the new wireless mic. Well done!
Great review of what most of us would consider a "typical" workcamp type of positions. Hope you find the community you both need along with the work opportunities that allow you to continue travelling.
Appreciate the work you put into your content - thank you.
Thanks for the honest review David. We actually just got the Hollylane Lark M2 mics and love them too. Great sound- Kyle and Michelle
Hello again David. My wife and I have been following your channel for 5 years. We appreciate your honesty! We have work camped for the past 3 years. We're full-time also. Heading to Rocky Mountain National Park in the Spring 2025 for a new work camping job and opportunity to visit and explore the wilderness in Colorado. We do experience the very same things of everyday living where you work. But in life, there is pros and cons to everything.
One huge pro with work camping imo, it's temporary. If it's terrible, you can leave.
If it's just okay, the season is short and there's an endpoint. We love this. You don't have this option when you have a mortgage with bills and a full-time job.
You also show how much you love your wife to find compromise with what she needs. You're a good man!
Have a great rest of your stay and you both enjoy your next adventure together! 😊
@AllthatMatters-g6c
I do not idolize them. A compliment is not idolizing. From the perspective of the viewers, he loves his wife.
We do not know the facts of their marriage, we are not family or personal friends. You hearing that he cheated on his wife is just gossip. Please know the facts before making judgmental comments.
@@AllthatMatters-g6c Well, that's disappointing.
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Once again you knock it out of the ball park....great video and nice sponsored advertisement. Smooth and to the point.
Great work camp review👍🏻 life in general has its pros and cons and cons and pros not just work camping. I’m 💯% like you I can camp out in the middle of nowhere and be as happy as a tornado in a trailer park. But my wife not so much, her idea of camping is full hookups swimming pool, tennis courts, restaurants, and shopping nearby.😞 😂 even marriage has its pros and cons and cons and pros. I really enjoyed that you were honest and laid it all out there 👍🏻 it would be nice to pay monthly camping and get a part time job in town for the season making better money and still have a great adventure, I’m retired and have a income… I’m not sure what the pros and cons and cons and pros of that would be for a young couple like you guys. Wish you guys the very best.
I’m surprised it’s not just an even trade, free camping for doing chores. I think you found a great deal to be getting paid some cash too.
I'm working right down the road from you. It’s the workcamping campground. Been fun but everyone is working so not much so little socializing. I'm getting ready to go to my next gig. Then who knows!!
I haven’t work camped before, but my wife is a travel nurse, so it would need to align with her contracts. I’ll tell you though, after listening to your review, most of the cons didn’t even sound that bad. And forget working at McDonald's-been there, done that. I lasted two days when I was 15, and the drama was unreal.
Honestly, what matters more than a few extra bucks per hour is the lifestyle. I’d much rather work at a campground in the woods outside Yellowstone for $13 an hour (which, by the way, isn’t terrible considering Wyoming’s minimum wage is around $7.25) than at McDonald’s in the city. Why go through that only to return to a cramped RV park that’s basically a parking lot?
The whole point of getting into this lifestyle for most of us is to break away from the city grind and live closer to nature. But Hey David, great review and enjoyed listing to you perspective!
@@AllthatMatters-g6c Rumors are rumors and not with repeating.
Great and thorough perspective, David. Well said. Thanks for the insight. I've often thought about work camping but of course have not transitioned to full time yet so it's a bit of a moot point.
A good benefit the owner could have extended was a free week at the end of the season so you could enjoy the park. If that's not possible, then the Con's out way the Pro's, in my opinion.
Hi David, thanks for the video. There are many types of work camping positions with various responsibilities and hours required per week. The trick is to find the sweet spot that gives you the pay commensurate with the duties expected and enough time off to see the local sites. I can see $13/hour would be ok for just collecting fees and cleaning the bathrooms a few times a day but not for someone skilled in mechanics and electrical issues. Those are highly skilled positions and worth a lot more. Life is nothing but a learning experience and you and Roe have certainly learned from this experience. More sweetie please. Take care
Thank you for your candor!
Great video ... thanks for sharing 👊🏻
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
@@AllthatMatters-g6c Haven't heard that ...
Great video, we have been volunteer host for 5 years , we decided to not take paid positions, our compensation is a free spot. Nice thing about that is hours are a lot less, so this lets us visit the area. Our current gig is three days on four days off. Sorry to hear about the bad experience with fellow workers.
So did you guys get rid of your Lectric bikes? Seemed like you were riding them a lot… or did you part with them when you moved back into sticks and bricks?
Great information on camp hosting. I wouldn't want to do it full time. Maybe 2 to 3 days. Good job!!
It is always amazing to me that my fellow Europeans left for the Americas and f^6ked it up to have green water
In my nearly four years of work camping in various states you’ve described similar situations and circumstances. This year was the first summer gig that was actually great, I got paid a great wage and received benefits. I’d like to suggest looking for seasonal jobs with state parks & become an employee. Look into it. Thx for sharing your pro & con experience.
I had great fun watching you both.
Great video, of your work camping job. Don
I am not surprised at the discoveries, for one this campground considers it a full time job as some camp grounds are not as large nor as demanding and don't require the amount of daily time put in. Retired friends of mine ( well actually of my dads and his age at the time ) did a couple of summers of "camp hosting" up in northern Washington by a lake and I believe they put in 4 to 5 hours a day but I can't claim they got paid anything as I think it was more about covering their campsite. They were not doing it for money, it was just to be in a place that was not hotter than hell like Phoenix area of Arizona during the summer and they also were originally from Washington anyway. The husband got the short end of the stick though, his job was to mow the whole grass area and with all the dirt around of skimpy grass areas he would be black with dirt and the front mount mower had seen better days so was always messing with it to keep it running. On the plus side they were both people persons so had a good interaction with those that came to camp there and make the campers feel welcome.
Maybe you could find a niche in bringing improvements to parks upgrading their wifi and solar systems...work travel.
Thanks for sharing your experience
I can see workkamping being pretty challenging. Just like any other form of employment I'm sure some places to workkamp are better than others. Keep the good stuff coming David and say hey to Roe.
Love your videos always informative. Did I see a blurry telephone both in the background by the building with the flag?
Interesting perspective
Did Roe have the measles ??
Sounds like a regular job. My husband worked for decades 50-60 hours a week. That is called work. Sorry i do not feel bad for your 40-45 hours. 401k for not permanent work? I can’t imagine getting 401k for work camping. I do admire your maintenance work that you did. I enjoyed watching that. And there is always work drama at work. All you can do is let it pass over your head. The weather…..think about all the outdoor people who work…construction, traffic monitors. Pouring rain. Love your dog though. What a sweetie
I wonder why that one couple has gone back 4-5 years in a row. They must really love the nature and the area
I work camp in the reservations office. I’ve actually had campers come to our site when I’m not working and ask me to go to the office and check availability for them. That’s a big con for me.
Unfortunately, Sounds like a job!
Guess that's why they call it work Camping 😮
Try the other side of the lake. Camp for free.Learn how to fly fish and You're evenings will be well spent. When you two are done there head to the lower Colorado ,Picacho SRA,. We camp Host there, I'll set two up with a camp sight. Take Picacho Rd to the Colorado river and the campground, 18 miles of desert Rd NOT INDIAN PASS RD
We stayed at that campground 2 summer's ago. The road was a terrible, very washboard . Is it any better now? And we were sad when we got there and were told we couldn't leave our dogs in the rv when we go. So we followed the rules, and since we were with our son and daughter-in-law, we stayed there and watched their dogs while they went to Yellowstone, but one night, a big class A that was right near the office had dogs and they were in the rv alone and barking like crazy. So we decided we would go to Yellowstone. Also, nobody said anything about the dogs being left behind. Is this still their rules ?
Wyoming doesn't have a state income tax while Montana doesn't have a sales tax. But West Yellowstone Montana created a sales tax. Running to Bozeman is time consuming.
I can’t imagine Jenny staying there the entire summer under those conditions.
What is the actual daily work being done? (I would assume trash collection, perhaps checking campers in and out? Maybe trail clearing? - What other types of things make up a typical day?
For example, litter pickup for an hour, collecting trash for 2 hours, working the entry gate for an hour, etc?
Thanks
Cleaning fire pits, bathrooms & showers (campers can be NASTY with personal habits), cleaning cabins, yurts, moving logs & downed branches, plumbing, mowing, weed whacking, tree trimming, raking, blowing leaves, picking up trash, cleaning porta potties, being on call after your official shift ends, etc. and you work in the rain, heat, cold. The campsite isn't free. It's considered part of your compensation package. That's why wages are so low. Sometimes there are no wages as hosts work as volunteers. Sometimes there aren't enough work campers and you may end up doing the work of two, four or more people while you wait for help to arrive. For the most part, it sucks. Some places are better than others, but they are hard to find.
@@CeruleanSky1111 Wow - Thanks for the skinny on this. After learning the details, I think it would take a certain type of person to wait in line to do the gig. Definitely not for everyone it sounds like.
Of course, if folks would just not sign up to do it, these sites would have to choose between paying more money, doing things themselves, or closing down. Sounds like any one of those options would work out.
Surprised you didn't mention a wifi range extender as an option to reach campground wifi. About 2 months of ATT data would pay for that extender device.
If I had to stay all summer at a campground in Yellowstone it’d feel like punishment. The dispersed campsites outside the Park is way better
how is Rose
David, I think you meant to say 40 hrs not 40 weeks.....Just saying
Since it is considered seasonal work are you able to get unemployment now for a time?
No I don't think so but I'm not sure, I hadn't looked into it.
Shaking my head and rolling my eyes when having to pay for things and not enough free time is a con…obe la di…
Who decides job assignments?
Some people just don’t play well with others. Some people are just never satisfied. Sometimes I think they are BOTS 🤖 😂 and not even human 🤷🏼♂️
Idaho Falls, UTAH?
Cons wins, never gonna do that
Dude that is the easiest job ... i could do it with one arm. Work a construction job, have kids, a house and still do stuff after work every day
You have no idea until you do it. Go do it with one arm and then let us know how it went for you.
Love that sweety
Sounds terrible
for me this video fell flat. you talked about work but never showed what you do. I have enjoyed your videos in the past but for me , this was not memorable. sorry.
He did a video earlier in the summer showing what a typical work day was like. Go back and check it out!
@@glendalab7567 right, my wife told me right after. RUclips notifies us when subscribed on some sights and forget others when they have a new video . Just glad I did not give the video a hands down .
hey David, this is Faith, please check your email, thanks a lot
Hi Faith, I just checked my email and do not see any new messages from you.
@@FateUnbound Hi David, sorry for that I may made mistake. Please check now, I m sure I sent the contact this time, thanks you my friend 🧡