The Black Ghost is Over Shadowed by the RTS Cuda at Mecum
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2023
- Mecum Indy 2023 definitely didn't disappoint by bringing the Black Ghost Challenger and RTS 'cuda to cross the block.
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RTS 'Cuda is magnificent!
Thanks for posting this video but wanted to mention that Chuck Miller built the Cuda and also the 1971 Roadrunner . The Duster was built by Byron Grenfel and the 1970 Roadrunner was built by Romans Chariot Shop. The Cuda sold for more than the other 3 RTS cars combined selling prices ! Wondering what the selling price would be if all 4 cars were together again and put up for auction as a lot ?
i sat in the SOX and MARTIN CUDA in the 1980s when i was outside a wrecking yard full of mopars looking for a front end for my brothers 65 and 66 cuds , it was crazy there was over 50 e bodies 3 or 4 gtx s and 20 or so road runners most big block cars all for sale cheap,,, it was in SOUTH CAROLINA , i asked the guy if the sox cuda was for sale ,,, he laughed and said no way. most of the ebodies had there motors yanked . earlier that week we had seen 2 dodge police cars for sale both for 800.00 dollars, still had their markings on them 1968 and a 1969 polaras rust free and had 383 super commando and the other a 440 magnum, and a 1971 charger with a 400 that had bullet holes in it as it was stolen and used in a bank robbery,,rust free for 2500 bucks,, I MISS THE GOOD OLD DAYS,,,, I BOUGHT MY RUST FREE 1971 CHALLENGER RT 383 MAGNUM WITH THE DANA TRACK PACK FOR 5,000.00 PERFECT CONDITION 58,000 MILES ON IT
Uncle Tony's garage did a video about the black ghost Challenger saying it was the biggest scam to ever cross The Auction Block. Citing that the story must have been made up, because the car was nothing special other than a 14-second challenger, and it didn't rule the streets at all.
You ever hear of nick of nick's garage, the guy ran a Cuda, a geniune Hemi, that thing is an 11:39 monster and he used to rule the streets with it
look up the 426 cuda replica video he's got, as Uncle Tony, is full of Uncle Shit.
hey life at speed I just found something interesting, apparently a 426 does a number on the front of a challenger, not sure if its from wear or tear but might be something to look at on the 360
videos titled Restoring a 1970 Dodge Hemi Challenger the owner never saw and jump ahead to 8 minutes in
I mean it makes sense, the Ford's had the monte Carlo bar for a reason, and its a unibody, and I remember the resto of the last 71 charger hemi, that was white and is now yellow weirdly, and the build quality could be abit off, but not twisting the front like that, like it torqued the damn thing
could be the gauging was off or it got a knock, which would make more sense, but it might need a looking at to see if it needs any extra bracing.
also what was the story with the black ghost underperforming like that, i thought it would have been 3 to 4 million and there was some Uncle Tony thing bashing it
like what caused the story to cool off, as for that I would have kept the thing, I was figuring 3 4 5 million
not that, like that's what the guy in Cuda Grace Offers Nash for the Cuda' if you count for inflation, like are the challengers far more common than the cudas?
also I need to get a model of that 71 GTX Rapid transit car, like I wondered what the hell that thing was when i found that, didnt figure it was a model of the showcar, and its amazing how close the concept was to the factory offering.
Yeah the weight and torque of the hemi can definitely do a number on these unibody cars and that's why a lot of people now add extra bracing if they aren't doing a concours level restoration.
As for the Black Ghost, imo it overperformed at the price it did hammer at. There is no way that's a multiple 7 figure car. Sure it's rare, but the story surrounding it isn't well documented and even if it were, Challengers never bring the kind of money 'cudas do. Without the marketing of the story behind that car, based on condition and options it's really only a $250k car. A much nicer and arguably more desireable survivor 70 hemi Challenger recently sold on Bring a Trailer for around $400k for perspective.
Now referring to the episode of Nash Bridges, you need to remember Nash Bridges was driving what was supposed to be a 71 hemi cuda convertible, whoch is the most valuable musclecar on the planet and those sell between 3 and 6 million depending on condition and options. But comparing a 71 hemi cuda convertible to a 70 hemo Challenger hardtop is comparing apples and oranges.
@@LifeatSpeed oh I figured their both E bodies, they have the 426, I mean, huh, although in looking at the cuda and the challenger, the cuda's always had the cleaner lines
like theirs almost sort of a step in the bodywork I picked up on that kind of looks almost like a fin, I noticed it when looking at the Jeff Foxworthy Clip of him on Jay Lenos garage
like his challengers a little bit too low, like the suspensions going and then I noticed it, like what is that
like not to knock it but I've always been the cuda guy when it comes to the choice between the two
and I cant help but think the ultimate is a 70' 340 AAR with a pistol grip, like maybe that just remade as a 71 convertible
also the rideheight amongst the cuda's the hemi's seems to be all over the place, some are higher, others are way lower, like maybe that shock towers abit more prevalent than i thought lol
kinda funny actually that would mean both of don john's cars have fatal flaws in them, the frame on the Daytona, the replica
that generation of Corvette has a wield that needs to be checked around the engine mount, where the front suspension can tear off if the wield wasnt done proper, and they left holes in the frame so water can collect in the frame rails and rot them out from the inside, so you actually need to do like an offroader and of all things check it with a hammer
like that guy on vinwiki said with the I think S1 Range Rover, the old 50's/60's one, and actually drill in drain holes so it doesnt collect, either that or seal them up, as theirs two in the upper part of the frame where the thing slopes down from the engine cradle
that were ment to help with mounting side pipes would you believe, its just they left them on and never closed them.
and if you dont beef up the diff and put in offset trailing arms, and traction arms in the case of the baldwin motion kamakazi versions the axels can break from strain of the larger tires, something that still happens even on the latter C5 ones, hence the conversion to a solid ford 9 inch for racing
like they were just never ment for slicks, which is why that baldwin motion had custom made traction bars on it and the big block springs
and if theirs one thing you learn about muscle cars, their never as well built as you think they are.
which is why finding such a good one is a nightmare lol
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