Legendary Original 1970 Black Ghost Brings Massive Money at Auction
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- I give you my thoughts on the recent Mecum Auto Auction event where the original 1970 Dodge Challenger RT Black Ghost sold for almost 1 million dollars. This is a piece of Mopar History that Dodge decided to build a special edition of 53 years later. What do you think of the original Black Ghost?
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Let's set the record straight on the original "Black Ghost". I'm 71 years old and lived 3 miles from Woodward Ave. in Royal Oak, MI. I was on Woodward racing at least 5 nights/week in my '69 Diamond Racing built 396 Camaro. It would run low 11's at Detroit Speedway. Yes, this Challenger is a very rare and sought after car but a legend? Terrorizing Woodward? Hardly. Never heard of that car. People's memories are lacking and the stories coming out are probably about a car called Silver Bullet a bonafide factory sponsored Hemi beast. This car that just sold is a stock Hemi and there were lots of cars on Woodward that could leave a stock Hemi in the dust - mine being one. This so-called legend is completely made up to promote the movie the guy made about it. Maybe his Dad raced it but it was not a legend. Take it from someone who was there at the time. I still build and drive muscle cars...always have, always will. My current ride is a '66 Buick GS 462 Stage 2 ruclips.net/video/DD8vLrAMoho/видео.html
Exactly!!!
So who concocted it old man? Lets say names and make videos....the son? The people interviewed? You know abour every racer and car on woodward and you say you never heard of it BUT there are many people who talk about it////make it make sense sir......we will wait......
@@NOLAZACK Do your own research and don't be a dick
@@NOLAZACKit was concocted by a photo op publisher. The owner provided the car for a photo shoot and to go with it a story was brought into the shoot.
@@NOLAZACK The son is said to have embelleshed his father's stories.His father seemed like a good man.
A whopper of a story about a car that "could beat anything" in bone stock trim, as told by an aspiring Story teller and movie maker nets him a cool million, minus auction fees. The movie is coming! Gotta love a free market. I need this guy to sell a few of my old cars for me
Real car. But made-up stories.
Issue about this car is this- it's loaded with options & stock. No headers, stock cam, stock wheels & tires, front swaybar on it, no trick head work, and a stick...it is neat, the original buyer was a vet & cop. But a Dart with a built 340, headers, auto, 4.10's, and tires would beat it. Sorry, it may have beat some other stock offerings, but it's wasn't a threat to a lot of vehicles in that era
That’s crazy money for that car. A fool and his money….
*their money (could be her as well, a real Her not today's Instagram Her)
@@wileecoyote5749 wow that's real (woke) of u..
No way a bone stock 14 second car was a legendary Detroit street racer 😂
I'm sure it won it's share against cars similar to itself. Aside from that it's a very nicely optioned car and a survivor. Too m much money by far....
You must’ve watched UTG’s post lol 😂
@@niccocowboymetoyer2972 He's got a point... Silver Bullet was way more known and a legend and that was definitely a of the time legit street race car. But as Uncle Tony said Stock Headers on a Hemi thats a 14sec car. No, ok, maybe it had head work and intake porting, but nothing obviously to it basically was "unbeatable" or whatever the lore is on it. Before the Hagerty doc thats on their YT channel I NEVER heard of the BG. Though it didn't have the press coverage via Hot Rod Mag nor had the secret backing of the after hours Dodge techs the the Bullet did. $975k for a numbers matching Hemi Challenger survivor, eh we didn't squawk as loud about the 1.2mil for a Hemi Plum crazy Cuda convert 4spd back in 2014?
Story is total bullshit made by a guy who owns a media company.
This was a bad ass ride back in the day! Going fast is easy today because of the technology!
Really neat survivor car. but its a bone stock hemi challenger. maybe ran mid 14s on a good day. Listening to some of the kid's videos on things his dad did wouldn't have done much to make it faster, he added a hotter coil, advanced the timing and supposedly welded the distributer so it had power all the time and hacked the exhaust up. It really smells like a great marketing tool by dodge. And what bothers me is that his dad asked him not to sell it. Cash grab and dodge is cashing in as well with their new challenger.
Exactly!
Hagerty and Mecum first, Dodge got the leftovers as a "Sticker pack" since they couldn't be bothered to gator skin the roof.
I feel like I could order a blacked out hellcat and add the stickers and have a better car for less 💰.
All the 6 special edition cars are bullshit badged up crap!! That stupid people with money are drooling over lol!!!
There is no way that a fully optioned stock challenger "owned the street scene" when cars like the Silver Bullet were also there...
Very cool car, completely bogus Hollywood screen writer fictional street racing back story.
Bone stock 14 second cars would never have terrorized the 70s Detroit Street Racing scene, not even close.
Please see Uncle Tony's great video on this, and then just do the math.
A legend that no one has ever heard of. The original is a 14-second car, maybe into the 13's on a good day..But there were some documented 10-second machines prowling Woodward at the time. When the car first surfaced a few years ago I had never heard of it so I reached out to some old-school Detroit runners I knew for the story. Most had never known of the car and only one who had said it was never a serious street contender. The story is marketing hype and it seems to have paid off. But the truth will eventually get out. Tony DeFeo just did a video on it and exposed some interesting facts. Don't get me wrong. It IS a very rare car in it's own rights. But it's legend status is fabrication.
They said it won a bunch of races. Those races must have been against bone stock chevelles and nova.
Wow. Imagine what I could get for my '85 Dodge Aries K? The audacity for Carmax to offer me $64.18. Glad I turned them down.
Do you have a good story to go with it? Maybe you can make one up like this guy.
😂😂
lol, 14 second car back in its day. prolly high 14 or low 15 now. Every car has a story, it's just how you dress up the story. the buyer got suckered. son, dodge, mecum, new owner are all in on the scam for the next car movie. the son is a story teller and a film maker.
Hold up, this car would beat everyone and "disappear" but Godfrey drove it every day? Detroit is a big city but not that big. Nobody ever recognized him? No one went to high school with him? He's driving it every day. Also, wasn't this guy a cop? Isn't having a cop.street racing a HUGE problem?
Sorry but the story of the “Black Ghost” is just a story. Lots of people have had suspicions and Uncle Tony’s Garage has called them out. Buy the car not the story.
Let you tell it is just a story I knew some guys in Detroit at that time it was a beast. But real drag races know what it was on the streets of Detroit
Yup.
@@392scatpack3 nice car but not a street race. its stock look at the build do the math.
@tigerber I agree I thought that when I saw the original video. But it's a cool story and it's definitely a really cool survivor. But it's definitely a scam and dodge is taking it to the bank now lol
@@tigerber why do people keep saying not a street racing car I grew up in the 60s and 70s every car wasn't cam and head work and gear. Straight off the showroom floor these cars with running
$975,000 for a bone stock 14 second Challenger.
I would have to agree with the previous posts. This was a two ton fully optioned car. 14 second car all day long when the fastest cars in Detroit were 10 second cars. I suppose the Black Ghost could have come out at night and picked on a few small blocks but a LEGEND? On the plus side, the car by itself without this "story" is still a very rare vehicle.
nothing like grifting off a BS STORY!
Stop .. please 🤦🏼♂️
Problem is if it was just a made up story someone could be in a lot of shit.
Who else can back up the stoty that Gregory told?
People do your homework
Just shows how much hype people will buy into . No way it was a dominant street racer
Watch the documentary dumbass
It’s amazing how much some of the old mopar cars go for nowadays . Im sorry for the loss of the original owner and wish his son all the best, great video 👍
The silver bullet would have gapped that…
Uncle Tony's Garage has an episode on how this whole black ghost thing is just an internet legend in that no bone-stock Hemi Challenger would have been competitive on the streets in Detroit during that period.
The whole black ghost is a complete bullshit story, 14 seconds on a great day it is a very heavy stock car its not beating allot of other racers in that era. Not happening.
Sucker Fest.
The myth lives on !
Story seems suspicious. If he daily drove it how did no one know who owned it? You would recognize the spec if you saw it on the street.
You all got scammed, that is just some guys old challenger. Not a street racing legend(maybe in his own mind)
It’s hilarious that Dodge bought into this fable. Outstanding example of the dangers of losing one’s intuitional memory.
Why are there ZERO mentions of the Black Ghost going back further than 3 years? Not. A. Single. Mention. Weird…
This whole thing is a total SCAM. The car is real, but there is certainly nothing "legendary" about it. It is a beat up bone stock 1970 Hemi Challenger. It never won any street races, unless it was against something akin to a 350 Chevy Nova. It's all a complete joke. I can't believe Dodge (I mean Stellantis, Dodge is long gone), Hagerty, Mecum, MGM, and who knows who else, would get involved in something like this.
Gregory is a good car salesman
I was at Mecum yesterday and saw the original, it was in really horrible shape.
Was it really? Describe in more detail what you saw please.
@@lagerbeer1974 paint was really swirled and top was really weathered and cracked. I know this car is more about legend than anything but with that being said legend or not I wouldn’t have paid 5k for it. I was really amazed at how many of those high money cars had bad door & hood gaps , I would never buy one over the phone.. all of this is just my opinion.
@@listenerjimdamn.. just think, about the fk’dup Business Decision a man would’ve soon realized he made, tho! 😭
I’d rather have a ‘70 Chevelle “SS” 454 4spd or a old 454 vette with 4spd & side pipes!
Why do people say this is a 14 sec car? They ran 13 sec easy with the right driver. With some mods they were in the 12sec range.
The car didn't even have headers, the car was fully optioned, 4000 lbs. The story is a myth, a myth people believe as true. 10 second cars were on Woodard at the time. That's why.
It’s a 14 second car on a good day.
On an actual street with street tires, it’s a 14 second car.
@@ThisValiantAdventure The Black Ghost ran slicks and a 4:10 rear so I would still say a solid 13 sec car and an easy 12 sec car with simple mods.
Legend has it that my 71 Monte Carlo SS prowled the streets of Anytown, USA eating hemis and Boss 409’s for lunch… any offers? Mecum are you listening?
If that Black Ghost is Legendary, then my Dakota that I raced ONCE in High School is Heroic. After watching the UTG video on it, I have less respect for what they've made the stock Hemi RT/SE into...a marketing stunt via the original owner's son.
In no universe alternate or otherwise did a 14 second car in a good day win every street race in Detroit. The car didn’t even have headers. Ask people that were really around in Detroit racing in the early seventies. It’s the greatest scam in history.
Tons Of Stories. You do realize the seller of the car owns a company that states. "Our goal is to be mission driven Story Tellers who Pioneer, AUTHENTIC State of the art visual content with the Goal To Invoke an Emotional Response. We ARE a diverse collective of Creatives, Visionaries, and Artist, READY to Capture the MOST Compelling Stories that FOcUS ON IMpACT. So you are saying the Million dollar car was bought by a shell company and it is just a sham for the multi MULTI MILLION DOLLAR Movie. OK NOOOooowww I SEE It!
As soon as Godfrey Qualls took his last breath, Gregory Qualls quickly saw dollar signs.
SCAM ALERT ! SCAM ALERT !! SCAM ALERT !!!
The Black Hoax. Most of the older street racers in Detroit have never heard of this car. Stock trim Hemi R/T SE is hardly a terror against most of the modified stuff from the 70's (The Silver Bullet). Truth be told, it was just like so many other muscle cars out there hotdogging with a fairytale story line tagged on it. If it's such a legend, how come there is no one out there talking about how they raced and lost to this challenger? Street cred goes way beyond a fabricated story line.
Black Ghost story is a myth. A 14 second car at best. Coming out and owning races at night never happened. 10 second cars were on Woodward at the time. A sucker bought this car with a tall tail. When does the movie come out? A movie based on a true story, lol.
Turns out the whole story seems to be a marketing scam. Fake story about a car dominating the streets. A Mopar guys channel just exposed it
The final sale price was 1 million 72,000.00 dollars according to Hagerty. All original, 2 build sheets and more. 46k original miles.
UTG debunked this car's "legendary" history in the most humble way possible.scam.
Dad said don;t sell my car....... very sad.....
How's it going Racer X? I don't think there's a happy person in the comments section today. Sorry about that.
I know, right? Haters gonna hate. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what they think. The original owner made nearly 1 million, and the haters did not. Long live the Black Ghost.
The whole Black ghost story is pretty sketchy, wonderful marketing my the son who sold it who by the way owns a marketing and videography company 🤔 real hemi car not so real story real deal street racers from Detroit have shot holes in this story but you tell a big enough story enough times people will believe it...
It's a BIGGEST SCAM that car is not a street race car and I feel sorry for the person you paid that munch. There's no evidence to back this story. 250k 300k car.
Yes, super nice car, in this day and age I would expect it would go for about $1 million, the new black ghost is bad ass. Also, you must drool a lot walking around that place those cars look amazing, makes me feel like pulling the hellcat out and going for a drive on this nice day with my daughter, but with that said another great video!
I know exactly how that guy feels. My dad bought a car before I was born and keep it until his passing. I inherited the car and couple years ago I sold it. It somewhat bitter sweet but it was time to let it go. Some days I kick myself for selling it. Just got an offer to good to pass. It was the exact number my dad said he would take before he passed. 🙏
I thought I'd go for a little bit more maybe a cool one million. But this also illustrates a Dodge mess up. Not only has the gator vinyl roof, but it's also supposed to have a shaker scoop.
What a story!! a 14 sec car was a ghost- bogus
Great homage Racer X👏
Love your videos but can’t believe you fell for the black Ghost bullshit story just to sell new Hellcat tributes. Uncle Tony has the only real review of the car but he’s right.
Scam car. Definitely wasn't dominating street racing in Detroit in the 70s.
I believe the Black Ghost because of its history should've sold north of 2 million. This car will sell again in the near future for double the auction price as it gains notoriety. I think Barrett Jackson would've done much better on the sale price. The Black Ghost is the epitome of street racing history! To my knowledge, an automobile manufacturer has never built a car in tribute to one person's car, therefore adding a ton more to its value. I'd be curious if someone could shed some light on this.
Interesting observation
Bro it's a fake story to pump the value, there's going to be some law suits and it'll never sell that high again.
Chance of the Black Ghost ever running a race…..0%.
It’s a cool fictional story.
That's great for Gregory and his family.... memories last a life time
This scam proves you can fool all of the people some of the time.
The only legend of this car was the legendary story his son told about this stock 14 second car being a legit street racer.
1 of 23 black on black on black 4spd 70 hemi rt / se
It is mentioned that the 2023 Black Ghost was 100K but failed to mentioned that dealers sold the car for 60K + 80K over sticker .
The car sold with commission was just over 1.07 million dollars. The seller got 975.000 of it. He had a 1,000,000 reserve on it but they lowered their commission percentage to get it sold.
That was really cool to learn. Thank you!
Nobody has ever heard of this Bone Stock street race car . Absolute fabricated BS to make more money .
Long Live Black Ghost! And as far as the new one goes they could have made a better wheel choice.
Alot of money to pay for a story. Not at all worth that money or commemorating a fable. Someone should feel foolish.
Surprised it wasn’t more. The backstory is incredible. When they make a movie about it the price will go up.
Waaaaaaaaay beyond baffling for how low the car went for. The buyer got a great deal for an original car with a nationally known history. Wouldn't surprise me if the car is put up for auction again it would go for many times more.
That "known history" is apparently a lie.
Saw that car at Mecum in Kissimmee, its worn out with a made up story. Nothing fast about it. Absolutely ridiculous anyone would pay for that car without documentation, newspaper articles etc ..
There's one born every minute....
This car is great piece of automotive history!
Dodge baby!!
Tons of stories? Where? No one, and I mean no one has ever heard of this car racing anyone! Quit spreading b.s.
In the height of the muscle car Era in the king of muscle car cities, this bone stock smoked all comers? Hahaha. Jesus, people believe anything that's on the internet.
The Story is True !! It was Authenticated by the Historic Vehicle Association. It was Chronicled on Lou Costabile You Tube Channel over 5 Years ago with the same exact story. There are comments on the vehicle racing in Detroit on Mac's Motorcity Garage from 2014. Cletus T Rickenbacher 3rd on October 9, 2014 at 10:03 am said:
There were everything from stock 4 door sedans, motorcycles(1 of the fastest there was a pink Sportster) and borderline Pro Stock cars that would run down close to 9 seconds. Most races were for bragging rights, but on many occasions money changed hands. I watched one go for $1500 between a 454 Camaro and a Hemi Challenger (Challenger won by a 1/2 car length)."
The Historic Vehicle Association, MECUM, and The US Library Of Congress. Authenticated The Story !!
-Sarge
Shame, should have stayed with the family.
Would be epic.
🏆Racer X 🏆Very cool sure miss my 🍀Challenger😎✌️
I grew up in the 70’s. First car was a 318 72 Duster with a manual 3 speed. 8 3/4 rear end. 3:23 gears. Stock it was slow. But with headers, aluminum 4 bbl. intake, carter 750 avs carb and cam dynamics cam. Recurved distributor and 340 heads ported. It would run the quarter mile at 13.8 @ 102 mph. So I believe with the right da and temp. This 426 Hemi Challenger would run better than 14 seconds. Stock it was for sure not owning the street. But in the 70s would of held its own against stock big block cars of the time. Cudos to the kid who sold the legend. It’s now history and will be told as such. Win. Win situation.
I told people a million and I was told I was crazy. I was dead on.
I think Dodge owes the family some money for using that name
Bone stock survivor car. Cool car regardless but the whole story is bs. Big stories create big reactions which leads to big business. If you REALLY think that dodge, mecum, hagerty, the owner, and movie studios arent all interwoven into making this spectacle happen, I have some ocean front property in Kansas for sale.
One of the best car stories ever. Awesome family with a awesome car
Fake news , someone got screwed on that thing lolol
1969 L/88 vette would have murdered the ghost!
A part of me is pissed that son sold the car but the other part of me understands why he sold the car
Im bothered that dodge made the same mistake again by not installing the shaker as Godfrey ordered. Even a dummy shaker, given all the restrictions and hassles theyd have to go through to produce a few one-offs. But nope
Fair price for a legendary mopar
Says who😂
That TRX in the background looks way better than that challenger with stickers...
It’s all made up.
Don’t waste money in this crap. Get a brand new hellcat and enjoy it.
damn that was a steal on that price i was thinking like 2.5
A fool and his money are soon…
Personally, that's way more than I expected the car to sell for. This wasn't a movie car like the Steve McQueen's Bullet Mustang that sold at auction for over 3 million dollars. This is a 1970 426 Hemi Challenger RT SE with a gator roof which apparently was a factory error and a Detroit street racing story attached. I would be interested finding out how many people were aware of this car before Dodge used it to sell their Black Ghost final edition.
Wayyyyy too much money
Dude u will belive anything 😅
I heard the son bought a 2023 Black Ghost? Pretty good trade off.
Yes Gregory is a big fan of the channel
That new black ghost doesn’t even look exciting to be honest . I’m wondering how much dealer up charged to order that crap edition. Black ghost is a made up concept
Poppycock how long are we going to go with the story the main word story Fairy Tail
Raced motorcycles? Lawd they jumping the shark now!
NO ONE has ever heard of this car PERIOD. Cool car yes......doing anything other than going to church. No
Well it is a rare Mopar do like rare Shelby's and Vettes they bring top dollar.
Tribute to stone stock 14 sec car.
Would never have sold it no matter how much total money greed
The biggest scam and hype to sell a car I’ve ever seen. They didn’t have real gator skin on the roof either. Come on man!
62,599 max 60min
What a great story!
BS Car .
Any chance to purchase a vent with that logo?
It's a ghost story alright, and a scam.