i LITERALLY said 'i miss plumbella when is she coming back' as i searched for their channel and found out they posted this 1 minute ago. love my power of manifestation
That’s not manifestation (not saying that condescendingly at all) you may honestly just have insane good intuition for people you care about :) not parasocial but since you miss her maybe you picked up on her energy.
The llamas are iconic to the sims franchise because in the Sims 1, the creators needed to create behavior patterns for the sims in their game. Originally it was an architecture program and the sims were only there to test the houses. So they used a real book on real llama husbandry. Which means, canonically, sims were never humans, just llamas with human skin.
I always assumed they based the llama idea on The Llamatron game which came out in 1992 and was a massive hit on the Commodore ad Ataria machines. It was a multi-directional shooter with llamas. I'm old enough to remember that it became a meme (before modern meme's) across the industry and appeared as a secret or bonus in many other games in respect to Jeff Minter the Creator.
The tarot cards contain a lot of references to The Sims Medieval! The guy you didn't know who was on The Chariot is Demetrius Landgraab, ancestor of the Landgraabs. Him and his son appear in the Pirates and Nobles expansion. I also think The Emperor might be a reference to that pack as well, not Cats & Dogs, but I might be wrong. Justice is the executioner, The Fool is a jester, and The Magician is wearing an outfit and hairstyle you can unlock in Medieval. Also the fireplace in The Tower is in Medieval. There might be more I didn't catch, I just thought it was really cool and interesting!
And also people who just want more options. Dude, when I saw one of the hair styles that's coming in this pack, I audibly gasped with joy. It's not super duper different than some things we already have, but it's different enough that I was so please. I had literally been thinking a few days before I saw it, "I wish we had a long straight hair with bangs that went over the shoulders and didn't cover the ears" while I was doing a sim makeover. Lo and behold, we're getting one!!
And that's fine for the basics, but new gameplay objects shouldn't be as rare as they are. I just wish they'd make more restaurants instead of having it be exclusive to dine out. A restaurant would have fit in perfectly in the dating pack.
I don't disagree with you, but I wish the pack items weren't so samey because when you have quite a few packs you realize it is not a very diverse selection of items and it's a little frustrating.
@@naryainc I really hate that the only objects we have for specific features lack different non-custom content styles. I am quite glad that we get repeated objects. It may seem like filler if you're only looking at it a gameplay perspective, but as a builder, it really changes things when you can have a swing that fits well in a Victorian style.
3:36 "If the Sims ever released a cannibal pack...", The celebrity tie in for this one would not be Chappell Roan, but would instead be Kesha. Kesha has an entire album called "Cannibal", which is full of bops, and she has a number of similarly morbid-sounding pop songs. "Cannibal", "Die Young", "Supernatural" (that one is about having sex with a ghost), "Backstabber", "Drop Dead", "Out Alive", "Raising Hell", etc. All very upbeat sounding songs with some dark humor in the lyrics.
As an occult girlie, I am already obsessed with this pack. Paranormal stuff didn’t have enough to me, I feel this will add perfectly together. Plus I can finally build a haunted library. I swooned over the CAS items too. lol Oh and I got super excited for tarot, since I use tarot myself. 🖤
Honestly shocked that you of all people have this take, I thought it would be right up your alley! If I ever did see someone blinded by grief. It’s a buy on sale for me, but definitely a pack I’ve needed them to make for a long time, as a generational player. Been praying for graveyards and proper tombs for years.
i get that this pack has a lot of stuff other packs also had but for me ,as someone who doesn’t buy all the packs that come out, this is exciting. id much rather buy this ep instead of buying idk romantic garden for that wishing well. however i do see how repetitive it would feel if you already have all of the packs.
@@suedaa31 it also kinda reminds me of how things worked in ts3. If im not wrong there were multiple different ways to get things across different packs - like foosball tables you could get in university or generations or smth? I forget. But i like the idea of packs sharing things because it means we aren’t limited, if you want the specific well you can get romantic garden stuff or you can get it as an added bonus in this pack. Too many times have packs been limited because one feature is another pack’s feature and its nice getting some connection so that you can get bikes that arent university exclusive, etc.
@@robynbrown1154 yes exactly. for example i really liked that we could get the changing table and the playmat with the new kit because growing together wouldnt be a top pack to buy for me. so i really dont mind it if theyre giving us good content honestly. but i get that if you’re someone who has everything it gets repetitive. im glad they gave us a similar well tho i think that well was the only good part of romantic garden hahah
As someone with all but the Star Wars pack, I highly disagree with Plumbella about the repetition of objects. I want the pack for the world and gameplay first and foremost. I like more options for objects and it’s not like this pack is like anything the sims has so far
I love so much about this video, the analysis, the costumes, but the best is Edward's one-sided beef with the Grim Reaper. He's treating Grim like he's a poser instead of an undead, eldritch being that guides souls to the underworld. Like, how dark can you get, sir?😂😂
We did not have holes in roofs that you can also use on the floor. Cemeteries we did have, but we couldn't go there and work there as a mortician. We had horror books, but not the Ghost Historian career. And the lore, the lore! This pack has twice the lore of other packs.
36:03 don't know if you're being ironic or not, but, this is Guild Lord Demetrius Landegraab from The Sims Medieval Pirates and Nobles Edit: just to note 'cause I think it's funny, they certainly changed The Devil tarot card to The Evil 😂 and all these cards have references to The Sims Medieval, I love that
@@Plumbella play Medieval again girly I’d love to see you do a play through! (I know the old save is lost but it’s been long enough now you could start a new one) 💜
Oh but the the sims lore specially the good ones was always like that Macabre family with the mother missing to apparently aliens after she was in a roof with the hot guy I'm the neighborhood????
31:22 i would like to think that, since sims 4 is on a different timeline, this is an alternate universe where olive really takes care of nervous and nervous doesn’t accept to be a subject for money and lives happily ever after as nyon thus never becoming nervous subject
Yes we can all play pretend that we are in a cemetery, that we are a funural, or even that we are in the beach, that we have family drama, that we made a apartment for rent, even that we are in a Japanese style town. But there's a difference between playing pretend and working around (hours cause it envolve building stuff that doesnt exist) to do stuff because the game doesn't have it, and no need to pretend, it's right there. And having stuff that other packs introduced is GOOD, not only because it adds variety, but because it reduces the need to buy multiple packs. If I want to build gothic-like I can buy the pack with the gameplay I use and ignore the rest instead of being forced to buy the one with the unfun one for me. Not just build mode, but cas items too
"He's using evil powers. Why is he feeling uncomfortable about evil powers?! HES EVIL" *Plumbella missing the fact she also has his traits open and listed as one of his traits is that he is Good*
More like Chappell MOAN sheeeesh. Ya so ICONIC QUEEN. EDIT: Jess dressing as Chappell Roan is true manifestation bc Fulov + Edward are giving “Good Luck, Babe!”
yay more plumbella! i love jeese's look today. this pack is so extremely up my alley, im super excited for all the early access content then playing myself! im working halloween dressed as spiderpunk but as soon as im off it's spooky sims time
You may not have read Poe, but its been referenced loads in media (Wednesday, Gilmore girls, Fall of the house of Usher etc) so you probably know more than you think you do 😊 The Simpsons reference the 'Tell tale heart' loads. If you do read Poe I recommend Masque of the Red Death 👺📚
I have been DESPERATE to hear you talk about this pack! NERVOUS SUBJECT AND OLIVE ARE BACK, BABE!! But...wild to me to hear you say you were kinda underwhelmed?? It adds SO much to the game. And I mean, I'm kinda surprised that YOU were surprised to find out there will be no Sims 5. If there were gonna be a Sims 5, they'd have done it YEARS AGO now - people have been huffing hopium for a TS5 for years now, and it's like...what made you think they were just waiting 10+ years to make another entry? They just confirmed what most of us already knew - no new entries. Only pumping TS4 until it's a dead and rotted horse corpse. And as a tarot girlie? They must have a tarot person on staff, because so many of these are so close to the real counterparts! I love the Strength one, ha! Strength depicts a woman and a lion, usually - the lion is the strength, this raw primal power...and the woman is the gentle, guiding hand of all that strength. Here, instead of standing over the lion, she's feeding him a gnome! HA. They said justice is from Sims Medieval, which cracks me up - but I LOVE the cowplant image! I would buy this deck in a heartbeat - they really nailed how intuitive tarot cards are, while still holding meaning in every little thing on the card. I love how all the hands reach, eager for what the cowplant offers...hungry for judgement, even if it should strike them down, they can't help themselves. Tarot info/insights below: (And yes, it says she saw these things on the cards flashing by on his tablet - the 'glowing book') Evil here is no doubt 'The Devil' in tarot, which isn't about being evil, per se - so much as it can be about being addicted to something, or someone. It depicts the devil, with the lovers from the lovers card chained and bound to him, usually. So it could be drugs, it could be a bad boyfriend or girlfriend, etc - but there is an outside force that has you in its thrall. You have to break your chains, and put you first. The advocate I love...I wondered if he was supposed to be the Magician/Hierophant? But that doesn't seem so...But he's about giving and receiving. The children are presenting him with gifts, as he readies to gift them in kind. (I bet the chariot is also referencing Sims Medieval.) I'm drawing a blank on the Advocate and which card they're riffing on, here...I'll have to look at one of my decks, lol. Emperor/Empress are often evocative of father/motherly energy, respectively. The Empress is also about motherhood, and fertility. It's often a white, blonde woman who is heavily pregnant, sitting on a throne...usually with wheat near her. Fertility of the land, and the home - so they nailed it with the Empress card for SURE. I LOVE that they evoked not just traditional tarot themes, but also sims lore in these...like the fruits nearby in this card representing the ones that can change the sex of your baby in the sims. And rabbits, since they're also a sign of fertility and luck...this card is loaded with lore and evocative images. The Tower card is basically the worst card in the deck - even Death is a peaceful card, and could mean the death of something more metaphorical. With the tower? Whatever is in question will come tumbling down...in a terribly painful way. It often depicts a skyline showing a medieval tower being hit by lightning and cracking in half, sometimes with people falling out of it even...so it is destruction as a force. But! Even the Tower can be good - sometimes you have to burn a forest to have healthier growth in the future! Sometimes, things must come tumbling down so we can start anew. The Sun is often almost exactly this card but reversed to face the other way - just a baby riding a white horse under a big sun. I love that they used almost the same imagery, but made it a plant baby! That makes it even more evocative of how important the sun is, here! This is always a nice card to get. I also really love their version of the Lovers! That's so sweet, and tragic - but in their own way, totally valid to the way tarot is read. This is a couple who has loved each other in life, and even on into the afterlife! This is a love that is built on solid foundations - an unshakeable bond. I also love that the moon card is basically exactly the moon card! But normally...those are just two wolves howling at the moon, so the werewolves work perfectly!! (I get why the suits are one card each...there would be a TON to animate otherwise, but what a fun tarot deck! I'd buy this IRL in a heartbeat.)
What are you talking about (no disrespect)? Most simmers were actually expecting a Sims 5, especially with all the other lifesim games that are about to come out. There are no deadlines when it comes to new entries to this franchise and, if something, reaching the 10 year mark made everyone expect even more that the new game would be announced.
@@Gxylord after years (I think?) of people, including gamechangers, referring to project rene as TS5 they recently announced it isn't actually. I still feel weirdly gaslighted by the tone of "whaaat? no, it was never sims 5, who said that?", after they didn't deny it even once in these past years. But yeah, anyway, project rene is apparently gonna be a new game in the universe, like mysims and the mobile games, but isn't the sims
"Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary, Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten LORE- While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping, As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door." - excerpt from The Raven by Edgar Allan Poe
But I want more swings and coffins and a new haunted house a lot trait. I want to. ADD all of these things to what I already have. I don’t want to make a bootleg cemetery with the stuff I already have. I want to use the stuff they specifically designed for cemeteries along with the stuff I already have and then upload that to the gallery and in a way that’s easier for other people to find.
Yeah, wild to me how stupid she sounded, for the first time in all the years I have watched her. Does she want me to use the bright, happy colored swingset in the spooky, macabre town?? Should I use only the coffins in Vampires, or would I maybe like more styles? It's like getting mad that someone got you a sweater, because you already own a t-shirt. "I already have a t-shirt, and that covers my torso perfectly! Why are you giving me another style of shirt? I already have one single shirt that works!" Like...the logic is entirely missing.
@christabelle__ yeah, I definitely don’t know if it was the best decision to start the video off like that. Those swings are some of the best swings we’ve ever gotten, and we could always use more rocking chairs. Sometimes more is better. For me personally, I would buy every single spooky lot trait or challenge they add to the game, even if they add dozens of them. 😂
Everyone still has the option to buy. I agree with her criticism that they (EA) gathered the same type of gameplay objects from other packs instead of adding new gameplay objects. I like different styles as well but would want to see new skill objects maybe considering how limited free time objects are and the price of an expansion pack. They could add a poetry skill and add a town poetry competition similar to debating in the uni pack if they want to recycle content. The new coffins and swings etc are just basically new skins for the exact same thing (which isn’t necessarily a bad thing but a bit underwhelming). Or a mini skill like knitting but you’re making dream catchers and those objects could help you with the scared moodlet
When it comes to the macabre, I am a one dimensional simp (Not for nothing I'm using this handle on all my socials), so the in-depth lore overview is _amazing_ thank you so much. You truly went above and beyond, and I am here for every second of it 😍
I feel like I'm the only one that gives a shit about this, but i don't like that they lightened Olive. She was a dark skinned black woman in ts2. Nervous being darker skinned than ts2 makes sense since in ts2 he was just a clone of Grim and Grim looks different in ts4. But it feels Gross to me they made her pale.
the same with bella too!! i thought with the townie rebrands they would fix it but they didn’t?? if you look at her skin tones from ts1&2 compared to now the difference is staggering
I always thought Olive was cursed, like when she liked someone, they ended up dying. This is why she was able to have a connection with the grim reaper. It would go hand in hand with her having the hopeless romantic trait in thus pack
She has a very suspicious room in her original home. Potentially a murder room. I also believe she killed more than lovers. There are graves of service Sims too. I think maybe one maid? Then a pizza delivery girl? This is from previous games. I think Jessie covered it a loooong time ago if you go back into her lore playlist.
So excited for the pack and really happy to have a lore breakdown from you! Also, please can you add close caption? Really helpful regarding accessibility for a wide range of people
its crazy they named the town ravenwood when its been the base location in wizard101 for over an entire decade AND is the title of a wizard101 story game
i wasn’t very interested in the lovestruck pack so i haven’t bothered to update my mods and whatnot in a while but this??? TRUST i will be acquiring it the second it becomes available (shoutout to our lord and savior anadius 🙏)
i am beyond thrilled for the comeback of the mother, the matriarch plumbella herself for probably one of the most promising eps. love, abignervoussubjectfan
Maybe, but by non occult do you include things like ghosts and rebirth as occult gameplay? Because it seems like it would limit the value of the bucket list. 🤷🏼♀️ Could still give some fun storytelling though.
Tbh I don’t believe the sims 5 is dead, it’s just not going to be project Rene or come out in the foreseeable future. Eventually the sims 4 will become even more outdated than it kinda is and I don’t see EA letting such a successful franchise die.
Yeah, everyone’s been shocked that Sims 5 was “cancelled” but honestly I think it’s just not been started or even planned yet. Renee was never Sims 5. 🤷🏼♀️
I mean I feel like that’s pretty certain, but because the sims 4 is their cash cow and we know ts5 hasn’t even started production, it’s probably so far into the future that it’s not even worth thinking about anymore. So it’s more like the dreams and hopes for sims 5 anytime soon are dead
As someone whose neuron-crushing special interest involves tarot, a plague doctor whose familiar is a crow, AND an OC for it who is a mortician.... unfortunately this pack is FLIRTING with me.
This was so absolutely and utterly worth the time. You, my dear, are a gem among gems and really the only Simmer I 100% trust with all aspects of a review.
omg i have genius idea. In game should be something like ancestry, dna test. Sims would take test and find theirs distant relatives in npc/townies. That would be so much fun!
I’m only like 4 minutes in but you slayed the Chappell look!!!! Also genuinely thank you so much for the in-depth review, as someone who can’t afford every pack I really appreciate it
i adore how i can go to kayla for one type of review (points, and going through the basics and form of the pack and some goods and gaffs) and then i come to jess and get a full breakdown of lore and a whole halloween costume party
11:25 don't know if it's the autistic sense of humour striking, but that quote is literally the funniest thing I've ever heard!! "...smog-tinged sadness, beautiful piece of alliteration right there. Love That! That's not alliteration though; that's just Emphasis." 🤣🤣
Oh, the tarot cards are so cooll! This deck seems to be all the major arcana in tarot (though some are renamed) with what looks like a single card to represent each of the minor arcana instead of their usual 1-10+Ace. Many of the cards actually use the Rider Waite tarot deck designs as a basis to build their artwork out of; several of these got a huge laugh out of me seeing how they sims-ified the Rider Waite designs. As for the Tower; The tower represents total destruction, total devastation. So it totally makes sense that the scene they used to show it involves the meteor coming. The Rider Waite design has people falling from a burning tower being struck by lightening, so it's cool to see they've kept that composition, just made the central piece a long vertical fireplace.
Love this deepdive! It was most definitely appreciated! Though, I feel like this pack is right up my alley. It makes my little witchy, macabre-obsessed heart so, so happy. Literally have never foamed at the mouth over a Sims expansion release before (or any pack, really), but this one has me begging for Halloween already. My Sims stories are going to get so, so much more interesting and fun!
Plumbella releasing a video??? On the life and death pack???? Which includes olive spectre????? During ace awareness week???????? *chef’s kiss* everything I’ve ever needed
I also have to tack on in a shorter message...well, I'll copy and paste what another commenter said: "But I want more swings and coffins and a new haunted house a lot trait. I want to. ADD all of these things to what I already have. I don’t want to make a bootleg cemetery with the stuff I already have. I want to use the stuff they specifically designed for cemeteries along with the stuff I already have and then upload that to the gallery and in a way that’s easier for other people to find." This. Does you want me to use the bright, happy colored swingset in the spooky, macabre town?? OR maybe the new, spookier themed one...that fits the aesthetic? Should I use only the coffins in Vampires that I've had for years, or would I maybe like more styles? It's like getting mad that someone got you a sweater, because you already own a t-shirt. "I already have a t-shirt, and that covers my torso perfectly! Why are you giving me another style of shirt? I already have one single shirt that works!" Like...the logic is entirely missing. In a spooky pack, I want spooky versions of things - yes, even things we already have, because I have waited a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG time for a more goth/macabre themed pack, and everyone else has all kinds of aesthetics and cas and BB to suit them...but what about me? I'm in my goth era late in life, sure, but I doubt I'll ever not be goth, now. I'd like that spooky swingset. I'd love more variety! Why are people mad we're getting lots of stuff? Do they think we should all eat one style of food and wear one pair of pants and one shirt and never have more styles of things so EVERYONE can be represented.
the sims team must be so ecstatic watching this video, seeing someone trying to figure out the whole story that they planned all around the world, it must be so fulfilling!
The "Flusher" book Isa probably Edgar Allan Pies "House of Usher" when a guy goes back to his friend's childhood home and it's delapitated and his friend is dying.
I watched the dev livestream and as soon as I saw Olive I immediately though "Oh, Plumbella's gonna flip" Regarding Nyon's name - maybe he wouldn't tell the Beakers his name so THEY named him Nervous, or that was his callby in their science notes for "anonymity"
13:15 I love this reference to “the fall of the house of Usher!” theres a Netflix series directed by Mike Flanagan (who also directed Haunting of Hill House) and its definitely a good watch
i LITERALLY said 'i miss plumbella when is she coming back' as i searched for their channel and found out they posted this 1 minute ago. love my power of manifestation
same haha
That’s not manifestation (not saying that condescendingly at all) you may honestly just have insane good intuition for people you care about :) not parasocial but since you miss her maybe you picked up on her energy.
Thank you for summoning her
You did us ALL a favor! 🙏💋
We appreciate your manifestation ❤
The llamas are iconic to the sims franchise because in the Sims 1, the creators needed to create behavior patterns for the sims in their game. Originally it was an architecture program and the sims were only there to test the houses. So they used a real book on real llama husbandry. Which means, canonically, sims were never humans, just llamas with human skin.
I always assumed they based the llama idea on The Llamatron game which came out in 1992 and was a massive hit on the Commodore ad Ataria machines. It was a multi-directional shooter with llamas. I'm old enough to remember that it became a meme (before modern meme's) across the industry and appeared as a secret or bonus in many other games in respect to Jeff Minter the Creator.
Old Maxis games loved llama Easter eggs. I miss Maxis fr. I grew up on those games.
They evolved from llamas 😂
I am even more confused by this comment. What does llama husbandry have to do with it? 😂 my brain cannot comprehend
@@MsLilyPicklesllama behavior
The tiny desk concert costume is DEVOURING
Chappell Groan and her hit ROT To Go! 3:31
ROT TO GO IS TOO GOOD
The tarot cards contain a lot of references to The Sims Medieval!
The guy you didn't know who was on The Chariot is Demetrius Landgraab, ancestor of the Landgraabs. Him and his son appear in the Pirates and Nobles expansion. I also think The Emperor might be a reference to that pack as well, not Cats & Dogs, but I might be wrong.
Justice is the executioner, The Fool is a jester, and The Magician is wearing an outfit and hairstyle you can unlock in Medieval. Also the fireplace in The Tower is in Medieval.
There might be more I didn't catch, I just thought it was really cool and interesting!
that was SUCH a deep cut that when the sims team said it in the live I had to pause the video to process that.
Yup, they definitely meant to make TSM reference there, they mentioned the pit monster during the stream, I think
Medieval was so great, I miss it :( best graphics in the series too imo
@@Kabotynkayes, the justice card have the pit monster on it ❤
@@drizzetb I didn't even notice that! Griselda being on Justice with the executioner makes a lot of sense!
While I agree it’s annoying when packs repeat items, this definitely benefits the people who can’t afford/don’t have every single pack
And also people who just want more options. Dude, when I saw one of the hair styles that's coming in this pack, I audibly gasped with joy. It's not super duper different than some things we already have, but it's different enough that I was so please. I had literally been thinking a few days before I saw it, "I wish we had a long straight hair with bangs that went over the shoulders and didn't cover the ears" while I was doing a sim makeover. Lo and behold, we're getting one!!
And that's fine for the basics, but new gameplay objects shouldn't be as rare as they are. I just wish they'd make more restaurants instead of having it be exclusive to dine out. A restaurant would have fit in perfectly in the dating pack.
In the meanwhile new gameplay objects are becoming rarer and rarer.
I don't disagree with you, but I wish the pack items weren't so samey because when you have quite a few packs you realize it is not a very diverse selection of items and it's a little frustrating.
@@naryainc I really hate that the only objects we have for specific features lack different non-custom content styles. I am quite glad that we get repeated objects. It may seem like filler if you're only looking at it a gameplay perspective, but as a builder, it really changes things when you can have a swing that fits well in a Victorian style.
I can’t believe chappell roan was plumbella this whole time
3:36 "If the Sims ever released a cannibal pack...", The celebrity tie in for this one would not be Chappell Roan, but would instead be Kesha. Kesha has an entire album called "Cannibal", which is full of bops, and she has a number of similarly morbid-sounding pop songs. "Cannibal", "Die Young", "Supernatural" (that one is about having sex with a ghost), "Backstabber", "Drop Dead", "Out Alive", "Raising Hell", etc. All very upbeat sounding songs with some dark humor in the lyrics.
Chappell Roan, Kesha and Ethel Cain crossover episode?
Whenever I hear the name I just think of the awful Pretty Little Liars spinoff Ravenswood 😂
I thought the exact same, too😂
we need to get Mike's Mic onto this
@@wissert omg yes
Ohhh this is why it sounded familiar
i thought it was just me HAHAH
Not gonna lie, I came here specifically for the deep dive into the lore and a Perfect Plumbella response to Nervous Subject revival/rebranding
As an occult girlie, I am already obsessed with this pack. Paranormal stuff didn’t have enough to me, I feel this will add perfectly together. Plus I can finally build a haunted library. I swooned over the CAS items too. lol Oh and I got super excited for tarot, since I use tarot myself. 🖤
Literally only just noticed the flag in the background. 🍉 Every time I think you couldn't possibly be cooler, you surprise me!
That's been there in the last few vids, I want to say! She's such an ally to those in need.
Supporting terrorism is not cool
Honestly shocked that you of all people have this take, I thought it would be right up your alley! If I ever did see someone blinded by grief.
It’s a buy on sale for me, but definitely a pack I’ve needed them to make for a long time, as a generational player. Been praying for graveyards and proper tombs for years.
I was so close to making my own but I didn't know how 💀
i get that this pack has a lot of stuff other packs also had but for me ,as someone who doesn’t buy all the packs that come out, this is exciting. id much rather buy this ep instead of buying idk romantic garden for that wishing well. however i do see how repetitive it would feel if you already have all of the packs.
Exactly my thoughts. I don't have Romantic Garden or Paranormal Stuff so this is great for me. I'm really excited about it.
It's only "repetitive" if you focus on those few things, it's being nit picky.
@@suedaa31 it also kinda reminds me of how things worked in ts3. If im not wrong there were multiple different ways to get things across different packs - like foosball tables you could get in university or generations or smth? I forget. But i like the idea of packs sharing things because it means we aren’t limited, if you want the specific well you can get romantic garden stuff or you can get it as an added bonus in this pack. Too many times have packs been limited because one feature is another pack’s feature and its nice getting some connection so that you can get bikes that arent university exclusive, etc.
@@robynbrown1154 yes exactly. for example i really liked that we could get the changing table and the playmat with the new kit because growing together wouldnt be a top pack to buy for me. so i really dont mind it if theyre giving us good content honestly. but i get that if you’re someone who has everything it gets repetitive. im glad they gave us a similar well tho i think that well was the only good part of romantic garden hahah
As someone with all but the Star Wars pack, I highly disagree with Plumbella about the repetition of objects. I want the pack for the world and gameplay first and foremost. I like more options for objects and it’s not like this pack is like anything the sims has so far
A 2 hour Plumbella video? Discovered just before I go to bed? Babe I don't know what to do 😭
Ironically Plumbella costumin Chappell Roan WAS on my 2024 bingo card, but its like the only thing that I’ve got checked so far 😂😂
One of the first things I said to my partner about the Sims4ever announcement was: “oh no Plumbella is not ok”
I love so much about this video, the analysis, the costumes, but the best is Edward's one-sided beef with the Grim Reaper. He's treating Grim like he's a poser instead of an undead, eldritch being that guides souls to the underworld. Like, how dark can you get, sir?😂😂
We did not have holes in roofs that you can also use on the floor. Cemeteries we did have, but we couldn't go there and work there as a mortician. We had horror books, but not the Ghost Historian career. And the lore, the lore! This pack has twice the lore of other packs.
36:03 don't know if you're being ironic or not, but, this is Guild Lord Demetrius Landegraab from The Sims Medieval Pirates and Nobles
Edit: just to note 'cause I think it's funny, they certainly changed The Devil tarot card to The Evil 😂 and all these cards have references to The Sims Medieval, I love that
OH MY GOD i didn’t know that!!! i haven’t delved that far into medieval
@@Plumbella play Medieval again girly I’d love to see you do a play through! (I know the old save is lost but it’s been long enough now you could start a new one) 💜
i do sort of like how the newer packs seem to embrace the lore more, even if it comes across in a fanfic-y way
Oh but the the sims lore specially the good ones was always like that
Macabre family with the mother missing to apparently aliens after she was in a roof with the hot guy I'm the neighborhood????
Sims lore has always been so cheesy and wacky that it just fits. I'm happy to see it too.
"Grim Reaper? More like Grim Working Conditions!" 🤣💀 Also the glee at the thought of flirting with Grim is so good and correct
we been needing this
FUNDIE FRIDAYS!?
feels right seeing you here
@@isabelsmith watching this video is my reward for finishing my own video lol
welcome back monarch
31:22 i would like to think that, since sims 4 is on a different timeline, this is an alternate universe where olive really takes care of nervous and nervous doesn’t accept to be a subject for money and lives happily ever after as nyon thus never becoming nervous subject
No Circe in ts4 to abduct him lol
@@pluutonius So far… 👀
Yes we can all play pretend that we are in a cemetery, that we are a funural, or even that we are in the beach, that we have family drama, that we made a apartment for rent, even that we are in a Japanese style town. But there's a difference between playing pretend and working around (hours cause it envolve building stuff that doesnt exist) to do stuff because the game doesn't have it, and no need to pretend, it's right there.
And having stuff that other packs introduced is GOOD, not only because it adds variety, but because it reduces the need to buy multiple packs.
If I want to build gothic-like I can buy the pack with the gameplay I use and ignore the rest instead of being forced to buy the one with the unfun one for me. Not just build mode, but cas items too
Re "Already got a coffin"
We do, in vampires. AND base game with Reaper's Rewards!
Vampires you can’t whoohoo in it, without them.
I still don't own the vampire pack, so I'm very stoked to be getting some actual coffins (despite the one from the RR event)
the stone face in the hill reminds me of that face of Will Wright you could put down in the neighbourhood in sims 2
I love the energy of these pack reviews! This is a creative video darling!
"He's using evil powers. Why is he feeling uncomfortable about evil powers?! HES EVIL"
*Plumbella missing the fact she also has his traits open and listed as one of his traits is that he is Good*
“We have so much content” and yet black hair and makeup is still limited
or anything else vaguely alternative (outside of two kits)
More like Chappell MOAN sheeeesh.
Ya so ICONIC QUEEN.
EDIT: Jess dressing as Chappell Roan is true manifestation bc Fulov + Edward are giving “Good Luck, Babe!”
“That’s like calling myself a Joe enthusiast after my dad” is so funny
listening to the Edward Talon Crow lore, I'm wondering if Grim may have had him as a one night stand......after all, we CAN woohoo him now
In Bridgerton the whole family where’s bee accents in their clothes like a bee didn’t take their dad out 😀😀
yay more plumbella! i love jeese's look today. this pack is so extremely up my alley, im super excited for all the early access content then playing myself! im working halloween dressed as spiderpunk but as soon as im off it's spooky sims time
this pack seems so perfect for plumbella im surprised she didnt like it
You may not have read Poe, but its been referenced loads in media (Wednesday, Gilmore girls, Fall of the house of Usher etc) so you probably know more than you think you do 😊 The Simpsons reference the 'Tell tale heart' loads.
If you do read Poe I recommend Masque of the Red Death 👺📚
"If I wanted to go to hell that would be my perogative" is SO powerful, slay Grim slay ✨
I have been DESPERATE to hear you talk about this pack! NERVOUS SUBJECT AND OLIVE ARE BACK, BABE!! But...wild to me to hear you say you were kinda underwhelmed?? It adds SO much to the game.
And I mean, I'm kinda surprised that YOU were surprised to find out there will be no Sims 5. If there were gonna be a Sims 5, they'd have done it YEARS AGO now - people have been huffing hopium for a TS5 for years now, and it's like...what made you think they were just waiting 10+ years to make another entry? They just confirmed what most of us already knew - no new entries. Only pumping TS4 until it's a dead and rotted horse corpse.
And as a tarot girlie? They must have a tarot person on staff, because so many of these are so close to the real counterparts!
I love the Strength one, ha! Strength depicts a woman and a lion, usually - the lion is the strength, this raw primal power...and the woman is the gentle, guiding hand of all that strength. Here, instead of standing over the lion, she's feeding him a gnome! HA.
They said justice is from Sims Medieval, which cracks me up - but I LOVE the cowplant image! I would buy this deck in a heartbeat - they really nailed how intuitive tarot cards are, while still holding meaning in every little thing on the card.
I love how all the hands reach, eager for what the cowplant offers...hungry for judgement, even if it should strike them down, they can't help themselves.
Tarot info/insights below: (And yes, it says she saw these things on the cards flashing by on his tablet - the 'glowing book')
Evil here is no doubt 'The Devil' in tarot, which isn't about being evil, per se - so much as it can be about being addicted to something, or someone. It depicts the devil, with the lovers from the lovers card chained and bound to him, usually. So it could be drugs, it could be a bad boyfriend or girlfriend, etc - but there is an outside force that has you in its thrall. You have to break your chains, and put you first.
The advocate I love...I wondered if he was supposed to be the Magician/Hierophant? But that doesn't seem so...But he's about giving and receiving. The children are presenting him with gifts, as he readies to gift them in kind. (I bet the chariot is also referencing Sims Medieval.) I'm drawing a blank on the Advocate and which card they're riffing on, here...I'll have to look at one of my decks, lol.
Emperor/Empress are often evocative of father/motherly energy, respectively. The Empress is also about motherhood, and fertility. It's often a white, blonde woman who is heavily pregnant, sitting on a throne...usually with wheat near her. Fertility of the land, and the home - so they nailed it with the Empress card for SURE. I LOVE that they evoked not just traditional tarot themes, but also sims lore in these...like the fruits nearby in this card representing the ones that can change the sex of your baby in the sims. And rabbits, since they're also a sign of fertility and luck...this card is loaded with lore and evocative images.
The Tower card is basically the worst card in the deck - even Death is a peaceful card, and could mean the death of something more metaphorical. With the tower? Whatever is in question will come tumbling down...in a terribly painful way. It often depicts a skyline showing a medieval tower being hit by lightning and cracking in half, sometimes with people falling out of it even...so it is destruction as a force. But! Even the Tower can be good - sometimes you have to burn a forest to have healthier growth in the future! Sometimes, things must come tumbling down so we can start anew.
The Sun is often almost exactly this card but reversed to face the other way - just a baby riding a white horse under a big sun. I love that they used almost the same imagery, but made it a plant baby! That makes it even more evocative of how important the sun is, here! This is always a nice card to get.
I also really love their version of the Lovers! That's so sweet, and tragic - but in their own way, totally valid to the way tarot is read. This is a couple who has loved each other in life, and even on into the afterlife! This is a love that is built on solid foundations - an unshakeable bond.
I also love that the moon card is basically exactly the moon card! But normally...those are just two wolves howling at the moon, so the werewolves work perfectly!!
(I get why the suits are one card each...there would be a TON to animate otherwise, but what a fun tarot deck! I'd buy this IRL in a heartbeat.)
what's the worth of having olive and nervous back if theyre just shells of the actual characters :/
What are you talking about (no disrespect)? Most simmers were actually expecting a Sims 5, especially with all the other lifesim games that are about to come out. There are no deadlines when it comes to new entries to this franchise and, if something, reaching the 10 year mark made everyone expect even more that the new game would be announced.
@@EricaDLucas+ project rene which was lowkey sims 5 (i think ea has cancelled it now tho?)
@@Gxylord after years (I think?) of people, including gamechangers, referring to project rene as TS5 they recently announced it isn't actually. I still feel weirdly gaslighted by the tone of "whaaat? no, it was never sims 5, who said that?", after they didn't deny it even once in these past years. But yeah, anyway, project rene is apparently gonna be a new game in the universe, like mysims and the mobile games, but isn't the sims
wym nobody expected S5. girl you do not speak for all of us 😂
"Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten LORE-
While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door." - excerpt from The Raven by Edgar Allan Poe
I wasn't convinced I'd want to watch such a long video, but here I am 2.5 hours later, wishing it was longer. Such a fun watch. Ty for all the lore ❤
"He fell off" when talking about the man's tombstone haha ❤😂
But I want more swings and coffins and a new haunted house a lot trait. I want to. ADD all of these things to what I already have. I don’t want to make a bootleg cemetery with the stuff I already have. I want to use the stuff they specifically designed for cemeteries along with the stuff I already have and then upload that to the gallery and in a way that’s easier for other people to find.
Yeah, wild to me how stupid she sounded, for the first time in all the years I have watched her. Does she want me to use the bright, happy colored swingset in the spooky, macabre town?? Should I use only the coffins in Vampires, or would I maybe like more styles? It's like getting mad that someone got you a sweater, because you already own a t-shirt. "I already have a t-shirt, and that covers my torso perfectly! Why are you giving me another style of shirt? I already have one single shirt that works!" Like...the logic is entirely missing.
@christabelle__ yeah, I definitely don’t know if it was the best decision to start the video off like that. Those swings are some of the best swings we’ve ever gotten, and we could always use more rocking chairs. Sometimes more is better. For me personally, I would buy every single spooky lot trait or challenge they add to the game, even if they add dozens of them. 😂
Everyone still has the option to buy. I agree with her criticism that they (EA) gathered the same type of gameplay objects from other packs instead of adding new gameplay objects. I like different styles as well but would want to see new skill objects maybe considering how limited free time objects are and the price of an expansion pack. They could add a poetry skill and add a town poetry competition similar to debating in the uni pack if they want to recycle content. The new coffins and swings etc are just basically new skins for the exact same thing (which isn’t necessarily a bad thing but a bit underwhelming). Or a mini skill like knitting but you’re making dream catchers and those objects could help you with the scared moodlet
i see your point actually ☝️
@@christabelle__calling her stupid for not licking EA’s ass is certainly a choice
When it comes to the macabre, I am a one dimensional simp (Not for nothing I'm using this handle on all my socials), so the in-depth lore overview is _amazing_ thank you so much. You truly went above and beyond, and I am here for every second of it 😍
I started watching this, then tapped the screen and say 2HOURS? icon. I’ll be SAT!
I feel like I'm the only one that gives a shit about this, but i don't like that they lightened Olive. She was a dark skinned black woman in ts2. Nervous being darker skinned than ts2 makes sense since in ts2 he was just a clone of Grim and Grim looks different in ts4. But it feels Gross to me they made her pale.
the same with bella too!! i thought with the townie rebrands they would fix it but they didn’t?? if you look at her skin tones from ts1&2 compared to now the difference is staggering
The EA gallery version of Olive (in connection to the Strangerville) has darker skin, too!
I always thought Olive was cursed, like when she liked someone, they ended up dying. This is why she was able to have a connection with the grim reaper. It would go hand in hand with her having the hopeless romantic trait in thus pack
She has a very suspicious room in her original home. Potentially a murder room. I also believe she killed more than lovers. There are graves of service Sims too. I think maybe one maid? Then a pizza delivery girl? This is from previous games. I think Jessie covered it a loooong time ago if you go back into her lore playlist.
THE OUTFIT THE VIBE THE EFFORT!!!
You have been so missed. As soon as this EP was announced I was waiting to hear from you 😊
So excited for the pack and really happy to have a lore breakdown from you!
Also, please can you add close caption? Really helpful regarding accessibility for a wide range of people
this !!
it's always so refreshing to see you being so honest even being a ea game changer
i was WAITING to hear your thoughts on this pack ever since i first heard of it. i was like OH JESSE MUST BE SO EXCITED!!!
its crazy they named the town ravenwood when its been the base location in wizard101 for over an entire decade AND is the title of a wizard101 story game
i wasn’t very interested in the lovestruck pack so i haven’t bothered to update my mods and whatnot in a while but this??? TRUST i will be acquiring it the second it becomes available (shoutout to our lord and savior anadius 🙏)
also as a lowkey tarot enthusiast, 💳💥💳💥💳💥
NEED THESE SIMS TAROT
Unpopular opinion but I miss the shorter videos. 2 hour vids can be a bit much. I like being able to watch something in one sitting
i am beyond thrilled for the comeback of the mother, the matriarch plumbella herself for probably one of the most promising eps. love, abignervoussubjectfan
Honestly that shade of red looks so good on you 3:54
The bucket list would be good for non occult players.....right?
Maybe, but by non occult do you include things like ghosts and rebirth as occult gameplay? Because it seems like it would limit the value of the bucket list. 🤷🏼♀️
Could still give some fun storytelling though.
It still gives you goals to do aside from the aspiration/wants, which add more variety aside from the whole rebirth/ghost stuff
Am I insane for thinking that Edith dying in a well and being an angry ghost is a nod to The Ring???
I haven't gotten through the whole video yet but I wanted to thank Plumbella. They're the only sims youtuber I can trust for a thorough pack review
Gonna have to watch this twice cause I’m just too distracted by how much you are slaying this Chappell Groan costume queen ❤
Tbh I don’t believe the sims 5 is dead, it’s just not going to be project Rene or come out in the foreseeable future.
Eventually the sims 4 will become even more outdated than it kinda is and I don’t see EA letting such a successful franchise die.
Yeah, everyone’s been shocked that Sims 5 was “cancelled” but honestly I think it’s just not been started or even planned yet. Renee was never Sims 5. 🤷🏼♀️
I mean I feel like that’s pretty certain, but because the sims 4 is their cash cow and we know ts5 hasn’t even started production, it’s probably so far into the future that it’s not even worth thinking about anymore. So it’s more like the dreams and hopes for sims 5 anytime soon are dead
As someone whose neuron-crushing special interest involves tarot, a plague doctor whose familiar is a crow, AND an OC for it who is a mortician.... unfortunately this pack is FLIRTING with me.
"but it could be a Crow and a Goat. A Croat!" Made me laugh so hard, aha thanks for that!
This was so absolutely and utterly worth the time. You, my dear, are a gem among gems and really the only Simmer I 100% trust with all aspects of a review.
omg i have genius idea. In game should be something like ancestry, dna test. Sims would take test and find theirs distant relatives in npc/townies. That would be so much fun!
I had hopes for the release of ts5 just for the chance of the return of the timeline 😭 now we're stuck with ts4 lack of lore and mess of a storyline
I’m only like 4 minutes in but you slayed the Chappell look!!!! Also genuinely thank you so much for the in-depth review, as someone who can’t afford every pack I really appreciate it
The intro is exacly why I love you so much!!! Great job Plum!!!
i adore how i can go to kayla for one type of review (points, and going through the basics and form of the pack and some goods and gaffs) and then i come to jess and get a full breakdown of lore and a whole halloween costume party
The darker hair looks amazing!
You look absolutely phenomenal as Chappell Groan! Honestly, you should get out there and do more drag inspired looks.
Glad I’m not the only one who wants The Sims tarot cards.
11:25 don't know if it's the autistic sense of humour striking, but that quote is literally the funniest thing I've ever heard!!
"...smog-tinged sadness, beautiful piece of alliteration right there. Love That! That's not alliteration though; that's just Emphasis." 🤣🤣
YOU ATE THE CHAPPEL ROAN FIT DOWNNNNNNN BOOTS
Take what you will with this opinion : the new world reminds me of Auradon and the Isle of the lost
Like, the gaming mermaid would’ve loved this map
Just last night I was moaning there were no new videos. Here you are as Chappel Roan, what a delight. Ilysm! (And it's my birthday!)
Happiest of birthdays to you ❤🎉
Happy birthday!! 🥳
Jesse you look incredible dressed as Chappell Roan!! That tiny desk concert look is iconic♥️
I love when you do your own deep dive!!! It’s so creative and fun! 💀🖤👻
OMG!! that chappell groan makeup and outfit is *chefs kiss* it really suits you!!
i clicked play as soon as i saw chappell groan and clapped my hands with excitement
Oh, the tarot cards are so cooll! This deck seems to be all the major arcana in tarot (though some are renamed) with what looks like a single card to represent each of the minor arcana instead of their usual 1-10+Ace. Many of the cards actually use the Rider Waite tarot deck designs as a basis to build their artwork out of; several of these got a huge laugh out of me seeing how they sims-ified the Rider Waite designs.
As for the Tower; The tower represents total destruction, total devastation. So it totally makes sense that the scene they used to show it involves the meteor coming. The Rider Waite design has people falling from a burning tower being struck by lightening, so it's cool to see they've kept that composition, just made the central piece a long vertical fireplace.
Love this deepdive! It was most definitely appreciated! Though, I feel like this pack is right up my alley. It makes my little witchy, macabre-obsessed heart so, so happy. Literally have never foamed at the mouth over a Sims expansion release before (or any pack, really), but this one has me begging for Halloween already. My Sims stories are going to get so, so much more interesting and fun!
Plumbella releasing a video??? On the life and death pack???? Which includes olive spectre????? During ace awareness week???????? *chef’s kiss* everything I’ve ever needed
Time to watch and listen to this 7 times over while baking Tomorrow❤
I was already excited for this pack but there’s something about watching how excited you are that makes me insanely more excited. 😭
I died with the Chappel Groan costume, which is ironic given the theme of the pack
I also have to tack on in a shorter message...well, I'll copy and paste what another commenter said:
"But I want more swings and coffins and a new haunted house a lot trait. I want to. ADD all of these things to what I already have. I don’t want to make a bootleg cemetery with the stuff I already have. I want to use the stuff they specifically designed for cemeteries along with the stuff I already have and then upload that to the gallery and in a way that’s easier for other people to find."
This. Does you want me to use the bright, happy colored swingset in the spooky, macabre town?? OR maybe the new, spookier themed one...that fits the aesthetic? Should I use only the coffins in Vampires that I've had for years, or would I maybe like more styles? It's like getting mad that someone got you a sweater, because you already own a t-shirt. "I already have a t-shirt, and that covers my torso perfectly! Why are you giving me another style of shirt? I already have one single shirt that works!" Like...the logic is entirely missing. In a spooky pack, I want spooky versions of things - yes, even things we already have, because I have waited a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG time for a more goth/macabre themed pack, and everyone else has all kinds of aesthetics and cas and BB to suit them...but what about me? I'm in my goth era late in life, sure, but I doubt I'll ever not be goth, now. I'd like that spooky swingset. I'd love more variety! Why are people mad we're getting lots of stuff? Do they think we should all eat one style of food and wear one pair of pants and one shirt and never have more styles of things so EVERYONE can be represented.
I love how all the ghosts were possessing the chairs at afterlife anonymous
i really wish there were captions for this video
Our diva Olive Specter is BAAAAACK!!!!!!!!!
I am so excited to see Olive!❤😂
I wish she actually looked like Olive. ts4 premades are allergic to having unique faces
@@pluutonius Me too. That's why I'm going to make her over as soon as I get ahold of the pack.
Its a pack i want but i decided years ago i will only buy packs on sale, half price or less 😅
I know! I keep arguing with myself about just buying it.
loveeee the dark hair!! missed your content plumbella❤❤
the sims team must be so ecstatic watching this video, seeing someone trying to figure out the whole story that they planned all around the world, it must be so fulfilling!
The "Flusher" book Isa probably Edgar Allan Pies "House of Usher" when a guy goes back to his friend's childhood home and it's delapitated and his friend is dying.
I watched the dev livestream and as soon as I saw Olive I immediately though "Oh, Plumbella's gonna flip"
Regarding Nyon's name - maybe he wouldn't tell the Beakers his name so THEY named him Nervous, or that was his callby in their science notes for "anonymity"
The chariot is Demetrius Landgraab, from the pirate EP for sims medieval!
13:15 I love this reference to “the fall of the house of Usher!” theres a Netflix series directed by Mike Flanagan (who also directed Haunting of Hill House) and its definitely a good watch
"♪♫The time is nigh to don a robe♪♫" 💀 killed me, oh my God 😆 sooooo goooood