+ Julie-Anne Teresa Lanham When it comes to the "Electric Universe" Wal's the one I like to go to. P.S. One of the members of the thunderbolts/electric universe team that Wal mentioned, Dr. C J. Ransom just published a new book, (Auroras, Petroglyphs, and Pagans) which is available at Amazon and Barnes and Noble and fits right in with what we're talking about.
I have studied and read cosmology and related sciences for a lifetime now. The last 40 years or so have been disappointing and I was beginning to doubt the entire concept as it stood. The Electric Universe has revived my interest. Now I have been able to renew my quest. Thank you so much Wal Thornhill for your imagination and perseverance, you have given me new direction. I believe that there is a huge amount of successful research on aircraft and space vehicles that has not been revealed to us. We may find that the great void where science has been bogged down for years was just another red herring. Such a pity; so much waste of human endeavour caused by false education. It seems the science fed to the masses does not match that which is occupying the secret research of governments. I also believe we are about to have much of it revealed to us. Had we harnessed the power of so many young minds we would have been much further advanced. I have always doubted the theory of gravity and also the speed of light. There can be no force without an equal and opposing force so that puts the accepted theory of gravity in question not withstanding the theory of light. It also must have an opposing force. I assume that the secret research of governments has been based on principles of an Electric universe for many years now.It has been in front of our eyes all this time. We only had to send up a wire extending down from a balloon and tap into the electric field differential to see a new direction for our research. We have had that technology for a couple of hundred years now. I am very interested in information showing the capacitor effect in anti gravity research. I believe it is called the Biefield-Brown effect. It will not be too long now until much is revealed to we humans who have been kept in the dark for the last seventy years or more. Such an exciting time to live for.
The Grand Canyon exhibits all the features consistent with an electrical scar, and explains all the inconsistencies and contradictions that plague mainstream hypotheses in this regard. It is the corollary of Valles Marineris on Mars.
WOW....... that was awesome. Thank you. I can not believe that mainstream planetary science has not taken this on board in a major way..... it is so obvious once you have the data.
"Mystery of the Sphinx". Came out in I think 1992. Basically proves that the Sphinx has massive water erosion and could not be any younger than 8,000 years old. I bring that up because your statement "it is so obvious once you have the data" made me think of it. You will ALMOST never have the data unless you make the conscious effort to find it which means your thought process is already in line with the discovery, its like some kind of paradox, I dont know. "Most" of the truth is available, but your thought process has to be in line with it to find the data...
That old Menken quote about a man's paycheck being dependent on his ignorance comes to mind. It's more than just ignorance though, it's also ego and status. Spend your career teaching outmoded ideas and see how eager you are to accept the news that you are a dinosaur. The faster science advances, the sooner the old guard needs to be replaced for the new truth to be accepted.
@@velikovskysghost A fool is born every minute... Every generation is like a conquering horde of barbarians to be civilized... They go to better schools and have better food. They are taller and stronger. The new generation wrests the power from the last ever more quickly. Each of us wields the tools provided by the life's work of our ancestors like so many discarded cell phones - with unconscious disdain and little real understanding of the potential in our hands.
Indeed, Thank You EU, TBP! My day is made when a Wal Thornhill presentation comes out. I am not of a science mind, but very interested nonetheless. I shall view and review, broadening my understanding. Wal knows how to make the complex clear and precise. I gave up on science as a teen when I came to understand what the Big Bang represented; the death to verifiable science by religious philosophers usurping science and free speech and thought.
+ Bob Backway I have a friend Nick who teaches welding in four classes and he said the very same, "I see these patterns and scars in my work everyday" and I've heard many welders say the same as well.
Wal, thank you for all of the effort and work you have put in over many years to make the truth available and easily understood, even by those of us who do not have an intellect which would be considered impressive. I am sad to say you seem worn-down, (tired even), and sound rather uninspired, possibly even depressed. I hope everything is okay, and that you are able to come back to showing the passion I know you inhabit! Again, thank you for all you have done and accomplished.
+ Darren Hudson Wal is doing fine and although he seems a bit tired in this one it was because he had traveled all the way from Australia and anyone of us would show a little bit tired if we did the same. For the most part the work Wal's involved in is some of the most exciting work anyone can be involved in and is truly exhilarating! The energy I get when I see someone's light go on when the finally get it is electrifying for sure.
*Boom!!!* Im pleased to see that visually Thornhill seems in a better Health. There is but one problem with accomplished, productive researchers, they not here long enough. Velikosvky would be 124 years old, Alfven would be 109, Arp would be 92, Juergens would be 93. Humans are proved to have lived older with retaining their spirit. Can you imagine if thoses guys had the longevity of the Bama county or Kargosock residents? *CAN YOU IMAGINE A EU CONFERENCE WITH SUCH AN ATTENDANCE?* that would be pure madness, in a good sense. We was robbed from seeing them as much they were from seeing us. Try to imagine how it woulda felt.
Can you imagine before the Flood, villages of people hundreds of years old? The Ark has been found and studied. It contains at least one metal not made today. RUclips, Ron Wayatt.
I had never thought about the similarity between Earth's ocean basins and Mars' excavated hemisphere until this video... We have no way of knowing when it happened, nor, in my broadened estimation of planetary longevity once we are freed of accretion disc formation theory, what star we were orbiting when it happened.
Very informative videos from Thunderbolts Project, & their theories make more sense than the current impact & gravitational theories. My only quibble is that I believe Immanuel Velikovsky, in his "Worlds in Collision", claims that Venus was ejected from Jupiter, hence the red "spot" on it's surface; I think something similar is also mentioned in one or more of David Talbott's videos. Jupiter is, too, considered a protostar, hence also be positively charged...
+ follyaga61 And the debate goes on, regarding both Jupiter and Saturn and their positions before, during and after the events in question. Dave Talbott does indeed postulate a variation as did Velikovsky however there is no real consensus as yet, but this conversation is really great and being in on it and or even knowing about it is exhilarating, very exhilarating indeed!
I’m almost 100% on board the Electrical Universe Model and I have a huge amount of respect for Wal Thornhil and his work. However, is public speaking is incredibly dull and hard to sit through. If it wasn’t for the incredibly compelling info he is presenting I have serious doubt I’d be able or willing to sit through the entire speech. And I’ve watched dozens of his presentations. That aside, keep up the great work guys. The EU(not the one that’s destroying Europe) will completely destroy and eventually replace the current standard model of the universe.
c. 4:50 in -- Dr Brian Ford: "If you can't explain your theory to your grandmother then you don't understand it." That's actually paraphrasing Einstein who said: "If we can't explain our science to a complete layman, then we don't fully understand it ourselves."
I also have a high voltage 'garage' experiment from 2013 where I place a wet piece of clay from a riverbank between an anode and cathode connected to a high voltage pulsed DC transformer. The video has been unlisted for at least 4 years now but I've made it public here ruclips.net/video/ol8VJJew1g8/видео.html because Wal Thornhill's presentations of the Anode Scar experiment with Rod Browitt always brings me back to my own video, and although the video is amateur, I'm sure some would take interest in the several phenomena that take place in it.
I really miss Wal's no-bullshit presentations. Question: why wasn't Mars re-FLOODED the same way Earth is supposed to have been flooded 12,000 BCE? Thanks TBolts.
Would you folks be willing to look at some ground formations in Madagascar to determine if they're possibly formed by electric conductivity? Latitude: 17°49'16.94"S Longitude: 47°24'22.13"E is the center of one of the raised vaguely roundish terrain formations. Nearby are a whole series of "scars" in the landscape, with one of them at Latitude: 17°43'39.69"S Longitude: 47°18'20.90"E ...Someone proposed a viewpoint that these sites look like gargantuan tree trunks and remnants of fallen branches, akin in shape and appearance to cedar trees...but if so, the scale is, well, unbelievably huge. (Plantlife does not scale nearly as well as electricity does, not at orders of magnitude where the "tree trunks" would be literally 5-6 miles across in diameter.) The idea was proposed that these tree growths formed during the Carboniferous (the era when there wasn't anything in existence yet that could devour & break down the lignen in woody plants, "allowing" them to grow to gargantuan proportions), that subsequent mineral deposits caused the trunk sections to be buried and eventually harden into petrified wood, and that other mineral deposits caused the branches either to mineralize but be of a much softer, more easily eroded material, or to be buried and then later exposed to lignen-devouring sources, either way causing imprints of the giant limbs to be left behind. While these "fallen branch impressions" do appear to look that way, it occurred to me that these same branch-like fractal geometries could also be explained as plasma etchings. Certainly, plasma discharge machining would explain why so many of these depressions in the earth have such clearly defined rims even after so much exposure to wind and rain. I'd like to pass the idea to the Thunderbolts Project for investigation and review. Other "tree trunk" formations can be found at sites like Latitude: 17°12'11.69"S Longitude: 47°17'32.01"E ...and Latitude: 18°50'40.76"S Longitude: 46°13'9.75"E (plus a few others). The "fallen branches" are literally all over the region around these "tree trunk" uprises, scarring the landscape. The "branches" sections are almost always found with very clean-cut, sharp rims above their rounder-shaped ravines--both in terms of outline as well as cross-section profile--as opposed to the more sloped sides of other rainwater runoff ravines with more traditional V-shaped valleys and non-sharp terrain features found far more predominantly toward the coastlines and the southern reaches of the island. It is these rounded-cut shapes, with their still very crisp escarpments, that make me think of the electrical scarring found on the surface of Mars. If anyone could investigate that, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would appreciate it, as it's quite the visual mystery as to what the true source is for these rather different-looking mesas and ravines.
Part of the cause to Mars South Hemisphere were “scaled” but its north is because Mars share a common axis with earth in our northern sky. When Mars visit earth it’s Southern Hemisphere will closest to earth and get strike first. That also explain our grand canyon is in our northern hemisphere.
+ John Syrmis The planets that were involved in these events have moved into equilibrium and therefore would no longer be in close enough contact to cause such scaring, however when a comet comes in contact with a difference in electrical potential there is some scaring going on. In my opinion this is one of the most exciting conversations to be in on, so cool!
Can anyone direct me to a talk that explains the theory about how Venus came from Saturn and how it ended up where it is now? I'm familiar with Velikovsky's theory but I missed this one.
+ Tony Stokes Go to either of Wal's sites info@holoscience.com and or holoscience.com and either look it up and or with the first site you can ask him a question/s excellent reading material and its science that makes sense.
Dr. Thornhill, if the Earth has a highly conductive nickle/iron core covered by a relatively non conductive stone mantle, and then by a crust covered in a liquid electrolyte, (salt water oceans), and is connected to the sun via Birkeland currents connected at its polar regions, would not the Earth be, generally speaking, a resonant RLC, (resistor/inductor/capacitor), network load? The resistance would come from the combined overall resistance of the Earth's core, mantle, crust, atmosphere, etc..., between the poles. The inductance would come from the large mass of nickle and iron comprising the core. And the capacitance would come from the fact that you have a conductive core covered by an insulating dielectric mantle, and then the mantle covered in a conductive crust, especially one covered in electrolytic salt water oceans. All RLC networks have specific resonant frequencies that depend on the resistance, inductance, and capacitance of the circuit, so would not the Earth and other celestial bodies act in the same way? I realize that while we haven't found much liquid water on other celestial bodies, as long as their cores, crusts, and atmospheres are more conductive than their mantles, then they would still act as RLC networks. Also, if planetary bodies do exhibit the characteristics of a capacitor due to their conductive cores being covered by dielectric like mantles, and then being covered by conductive crusts and atmospheres, then just like any capacitor, could they not be "blown out" by a current and voltage overload? Perhaps this is what might have happened to Mars and perhaps Venus during the period of the formation of Olympus Mons and Valles Marineris, which might have had something to do with the degaussing or demagnetization of Mars' and Venus' magnetic fields? Or, even if Mars' and Venus' spherical RLC networks weren't specifically "overloaded", I still think that it could be a possibility that the events during the formation of Olympus Mons and Valles Marineris, as well as the massive scaring on Venus, might have had something to do with the disappearance of their magnetic fields, as there's not many ways, that we know of at least, to demagnetize something, and other than physical shock or non-electrically generated heat, you only have electromagnetism, which is electricity and/or magnetism, as they are just two forms or aspects of the same thing. Also, as inductors can store and discharge current, and capacitors can store and discharge voltage, could not the inductive and capacitive properties of planetary bodies contribute to the electrical charging of planets, and occasional catastrophic discharging of massive amounts of electrical power should these giant charged RLC electrodes come too close in proximity? Anyway, Dr Thornhill, or anybody else reading this, what do you think?
Great work from Wal - again. However, I have noticed a lapse in diligence from Wal in more recent presentations that those from his earlier days in careful choice of language when claiming evidence provides proofs etc. Is he getting tired of playing to the academia game or doesn't he care anymore? I sure hope it's not just laziness because he has always been quite thorough in the past and what he has to offer is extremely valuable and shouldn't be discounted due to incoherence.
+ DLee 1100s Don't fret to much about how Wal does on this video or any other for that matter just know that he's thrown dome the gauntlet for us to pick up and run with and I for one have been sharing this information with as many as I can and will continue to do so for as long as I'am able and I know Wal will be doing the same, so lets show this old gentleman what we're made of and kick some butt in 2018 by welcoming more friends and family to this "Electric Universe".....
I suggest that in saturns heliosphere we lived to be hundreds of years old as recorded in genesis because our current suns radiation damages and ages us rapidly. And the sign of the rainbow, i suggest rainbows weren’t possible in saturns heliosphere. It also states now you will have seasons. Hot and cold. Day and night. Further confirming the mega change in environment. I also suggest the radiation/frequency change disrupted our natural harmony with the animals. Hence we are told in genesis the animals would now be afraid of us.
+ Clint Steel Perhaps 100+ years and perhaps even much longer. Many animals, humans plants etc would have been subjected to varying radiations in Saturn's blanket atmosphere. Once we left that warm and comfy zone we were subject to all hell breaking loose and it is surprising that anyone even survived it. Great comment Clint, James
James Kenyon I also suggest that the story of jacobs ladder is from the same cataclysm. Ladder looking plasma seen in the sky during the cataclysm. And that under saturn where we evolved, our ‘third eye’ worked perfectly. Thats why jacob called that place penial. The penial gland. Of course they spell it with EL. Peniel. Because gods name was originally EL. Which is why everyone in the bible wanted to have EL in their name
+ Clint Steel Works for me and open up doors that most religious types have refused to open, and in a way I don't blame them. The total conversation depends on a keen observation and an open mind, rely on facts, and be prepared to accept where they lead. Your idea of "Peniel" to have the "El" in one's title makes sense. I've been through the (Star Series) from the late Dwardu Cardona, "A must read" according to Wal, and Dwardu goes over a lot of what your referring to in them. Many of the concepts about our life under Saturn's influence is now, I believe, coming into the minds of those who are willing to do the research. It would be interesting to see if other religions used the same process with their supposed gods concepts. Interesting comment.
+ Clint Steel Wal is definitely the man, or at least the most comprehensive on the subject of the thunderbolts/electric universe paradigm. I know for a fact that he has 60 years involved in research. The (Star Series) by Cardona are expensive but well worth it with prodigious references, photos and illustrations. On the note of books, Dr. C J. Ransom who has been a regular guest speaker for thunderbolts and can also be seen on the 1972 (Worlds in Collision) video with Velikovsky, has also written a new book titled,(Auroras, Petroglyphs, and Pagans.) which I now have, am reading, and highly recommend. There are a few others who's comments,like your's, reach beyond preconceived concepts and are willing to examine the information at hand and are willing to discuss things in an adult and intelligent manor, Jan Hoyle, Jon Mallary, Mhk el, Ronald Small, Werner Schopf, just to name a few. I'd like to think that this group along with a few from the senior thunderbolts team can possibly help solve many of the mysteries at hand, this is so cool!
Could such an 'arc' have caused the mass dinosaur extinction credited to a ''comet collision'' or is that too massive a deformation?? Exciting images of the rilles and 'stuff'... Looking forward to more exciting 'stuff'...
Something occurred to me regarding a possible connection between EU and "global warming/climate change". Imagine the effects on CO2 levels and the climate if there was a massive inter-planetary electrical discharge to the Earth in a location with a lot of coal, oil sands, natural gas, tundra or oil deposits! There would be immense burning and release of all those tons or gallons of fossil fuels thus reuniting the CO2 with their atmospheric origin. Yes, I'm stating that they started out in the atmosphere, became plant matter and then were catastrophically encapsulated as fossil fuels and burning them in such an imagined electrical flash would simply be the repetition of a previous life cycle.
+ Robert Lefebvre One of the best sources for information on this topic is Dr. Velikovsky's book (Earth in Upheaval) 1955, which gives an account of what very likely happened and the results geologically and geographically, good stuff and the reprinted paperback copies are less expensive.
What are the chances all that oil and coal, so far below the earth surface, existing in so relatively small locations, in such huge reservoirs, was produced by plant life? Between .0000000000001 and 0.
A collision of two objects formed the moon? Who's ever seen collisions of rocks forming perfect balls of rocks? No demonstrations have ever shown this.
Concentric craters or bull’s eye creators could be a symbol signifies the Bessel function of Birkeland current concentric sheath of charge flow. It should be point out and well recognized that Birkeland current isn’t any current in its purist energy form. Since static charge DONOT migrate and it needs a “carrier” to do so and that carrier is space particles. Without charged particles there WILL be no migrating static charge ie (Birkeland) current. Non concentric craters, such as relativity large crater and cannon scaring, were created by sudden discharge, since Birkeland current needs time - to establish and to build crater. Suddenly discharge is more associate with interplanetary discharge.
Wouldn't the exploding planet hypothesis proposed by astronomer Tom Van Flandern explain at least some of the electrical discharge machining? The energy wave and embedded debris would no doubt have profound effects on any other body encountered as it's blast wave expanded. I don't recall what the EU has to say of this theory. It would definitely fit the bill for such an event.
+ Kreg Hines I met Tom Van Flandern at the 2000 Kronia conference in Portland, Kronia was thunderbolts.info before its name changed, and Wal pointed out to Tom that before we can have an exploding planet we need to have a reason for the planet to explode and as Wal also points out when any big planets with electrical potential they will separate from each other before colliding although they would pass electric arcs back and fourth.
You have to wonder if the asteroid belt, which is right outside Mars orbit, between Mars and Jupiter, is filled with electrically excavated debris from Mars northern, or “scalped” hemisphere. 22:32 Link: i.ytimg.com/vi/LWMHIkIFwEQ/maxresdefault.jpg
Most geologists agree that the Grand Canyon is only approximately 5 million years old, a mere blip on the radar of time geologically speaking. How does this line up with your theory of electrical formation as apposed the the current theory of erosion? I could see that the truth could lie in a combination of these theories.
The Grand Canyon exhibits all the features consistent with an electrical scar, and explains all the inconsistencies and contradictions that plague mainstream hypotheses in this regard. It is the corollary of Valles Marineris on Mars.
+ dj33036 .dj63010 Most geologists are repeating, or parroting, what they were taught in school/college etc, based on how long it would have taken nature to slowly carve and or build up these Earthly features i.e, erosion, wind, etc,however if these formations are tied to electrical scaring then the features could have happened in a day or even much less and in my opinion that's precisely what happened as the majority of evidence shows. The work of the late Dwardu Cardona in his (Star Series) recommended reading, goes into detail on how many of the features we now see came about + a lot more of an historic nature.
GCR penetration skews molecular decay dating. Decay varies with the sun's polar magnetic field strengths, and through them, the energy imparted to our magnetosphere and our systems heliosphere. The further back one looks, the more adjustments are required, and the more uncertain the results. Beyond ten or fifteen thousand years, all bets are off, because of things like the Charlemagne Event, and the sun's heliosphere's and our magnetosphere's varying abilities, to redirect incoming Galactic Cosmic Rays away from Earth. Geology was an art, like astrology is, before molecular decay dating rendered it quantifiable. In many respects, it still is an art. Today, finding precious metals for example, requires insight and a forensic eye. Just as it has always required. Technology has improved the tools but the mainstream interpretations of geological history and timelines, rarely if ever, result in such finds. Even the age of the Sphinx is in question precisely because of the rift between molecular decay dating and the artful application of geological force interpretations. Specifically, water erosion evidence and time of exposure to the elements as opposed to being shielded while buried. Geology was called upon to determine its age. It cannot artfully nail it down yet, and molecular decay dating does not help. Archeologists use 100 year old consensus geology opinion, to base timelines on it's creation and that, is used for establishing timelines for other archaeological finds on earth. The standard belief on the formation of our Grand Canyon, is based on flawed theory. Consequently it, as well as subsequent theories based on that timeline, are as well. The only proof of its age resides in long held belief. Just as the mainstream consensus on the process our sun uses to function is based upon. Flawed foundations! What we do have, that you'll never hear about in a college geology class, are rational alternatives we can seriously consider, based upon far more rational ideas than the vague, unfalsifiable theories of timelines spanning millions of years of pressure, water, and heat. Kinda like astronomy's dependence on explosions, collisions, and gravity. At some point it becomes nonsense, when alternatives exist. That's why Aarp's work is not taught to astronomy students, and why John Casey's work is not taught to budding climate scientists. Certainty excludes doubt. Alternatives encourage it. One road advances understanding. One does not. Politics and competition for funding does the rest, as the layman rests confused. ✌
+ Jon Mallary Beautiful! and spot on as well! If it matters that our intelligence is the most valuable thing we have then I'am truly happy that I stand with the the thunderbolts/electric universe team. Best always Jon, James
Page 21:00 Let me stand on Velikovsky’s shoulder to say this. The fact that American Indians can read the scars on Mars without telescope by naked eyes was because Mars was a visiting planet to earth past. If not of interplanetary static charge equalization between Mars and earth there is no Valles Marineris today.
Page 15:00 Interplanetary arcing did so with opposite charge polarity, and hence, the exchange was direct current and not alternating current. So do our experimentalist set your generator in direct current mode. We will fail our experiment to represent electric machining of landscape.
Venus streamers when first born look like those on the head of the Statue of Liberty? Also I think it's pretty safe to say Halloween is about Venus judging by the pumpkin looking image of her @ 30:47.
Is it possible planets could be like giant geode's, Hollow inside with varying forms of crystals. As the crystals are pinched and squeezed by the centrifugal spinning motion of the planet they produce electricity thus producing magnetism and positive and negative poles. Somewhere in this mix gravity is formed. Various types of crystals produce various levels of electricity which could also explain different levels of magnetism and gravity on planets of different composition.
how could you look at a photo of Venus and not see electricity? who doesn't see lichtenberg (?) trails like those from sending a current through a saline-soaked wood plank 🤯
When will the facts finally catch up with the "science" community? I am not a scientist, just someone who has always been interested in it, but this is so obviously the explanation of evidence that they have to be akin to ostriches.
+ Tom Laddus Spot on Tom, spot on. Nw when they do get their heads out of the sand and or wherever they have it stuck in the world of science will get a great shot in the arm and hopefully it is sooner then later.
Alright. Let's say for the moment that you're correct about Venus coming forth from Saturn. Here's my question: how and why, and where did the solid matter that composes Venus come from? How do you pull a terrestrial planet out of a gas giant?
A gas giant is not made of gas only. As far as we know, they could have huge rocky cores hiding beneath the gas, Jupiter was even hypothesized to have a diamond made core. Of course there are issues with the calculated density of such planets, but that's a story for another day. The "when" is supposed to be roughly 10k years ago, related to the younger dryas event and, in the full story, to the entry of Saturn into the Sol system. Venus was supposedly born out of Saturn's South pole in full view of humanity, as a result of the violent attempt of Saturn to adjust to the new electrical environment, which involved a violent flare (the "fiat lux") and the ejection of a highly charged body (Venus and maybe others too), which radiantly discharged for a very long time. Connected to the same event there was the emanation of the spiralling "Word of God", an example of which can be seen in the picture taken by the Alma telescope of the star R Sculptoris. And the story goes much further ;)
If our moon was constructed by gravity with debris on an orbit where our moon is today we can find that gravel field in our country side full of moon size spheres.
"Rebound", but doesn't the material sink back and then you would have flat center? Had any idiot of the mainstream seen a shell impact with central peak?
21:32 - known to the "American Indians"...Having a small % of Blackfoot in my ancestry I would be interested in knowing which tribe? Did ALL NA tribes believe this?
+ Brian Martel My friend Nick is of the Lakota Sioux tribe of Original Natives, as he likes to call them, and he is well aware of the commonality of his tribes old stories and those of neighboring tribes. I myself being related to 3 Native Peoples Navajo, Blackfoot, and Iroquois can tell you that from my early teachings from my grandmother's Jessie and Zeana that at least these three have similar stories. I'm reading the late Dwardu Cardona (Star series) of books and reading the last (New Born Star) and can tell you that the work of Dave Talbott, Ev Cochrane, and Dwardu himself show that these stories are not only nationwide but worldwide and so, yes, all of the ancient people's believed this.
@james kenyon all of no people believe all of anything. And no substantial evidence has been presented. And having a percentage of heritage or race proves nothing whatsoever. Being a rifleman in WWI doesn't make a WWI scholar.
Sorry, but I don't agree. 1) you explain the moon craters are of electric origin and you cite Dr. Ford. In your words, he compares the moon craters with craters made my electric sparc machines. These machines are made to machine parts. My question is: Where is the cosmic sparc machine which creates the craters on the planets and moons, and who has used them. First of all: An electric sparc machine drills holes not by a single spark, but by thousands and millions of individual sparks which are between an shaped electrode and the item you want to machine. And the gap between this e.g. cylindric shaped electrode is only a fraction of the diameter of the hole which will me made by these sparks. Just saying oh the look is similar to the craters on moon, makes absolutely no sense for someone who has an idea how spark machines work. A single stroke can not produce a crater like the ones we see at moon. 2) Where does the electricity flow? Electricity always flows in a circle (Kirchhoffs Laws of Electricity), where is the second conductor? The way back to the electric source? 3) The whole capacity of earth is about 900µF This capacitiy is often a nice calculation example for students of elecricity in the first semester. However, a 900µF capacitor quite small, the capacitors inside your stereo amplifier ar often in the range of 10000µF. The only way to generate sparks of the size which would be necessary to make craters with kilometers (or miles) of diameter, would be possible if you charge a planet or moon to billions of billions of volt, but then the electric attraction between this body and his next body would be much larger than the attraction generated by gravity. And after the dischage, both bodies will have the same potential against the environment (e.g. the sun). Here again is my question, how can a solar system work, when electric charges appear and disappear (because of discharges) and these radical changes of charges leads to radical changes in forces which push or pull on the position of the planets and moons? If these charges exist, they would have destroyed the whole solar system within short time.
+ Arjan Plantinga It is quite possible as it is also quite possible that many of the features we see on Earth are indeed electrical scars, we're just not aware of it because we're just getting introduced to the electric universe thanks to Wal Thornhill, Dave Talbott and the entire thunderbolts team. Great stuff to study.
As I said before we know right now that the solar winds push Venus electromagnetic field so far back it forms a tail that is close or barely touches earth with not really any side effects!! Now today the same thing happens to earth with solar winds push earth's electromagnetic field forming a tail that sometimes touches Mars and sometimes cause dust storms!! Now it Venus etectromagnetic field is hit by a very large cronia mass ejection well it will push Venus's electromagnetic field back touching and or engulfing earth! Now Venus electromagnetic field would be supercharged and create massive lighting volts and massive destructive storms. Earth engulf in Venus massive tail it electromagnetic feild is pushed back and super charged creating massive lighting volts and massive storms! Some of the massive lighting volts send debris high up in the air exchange between planets! Both planets are super charge filled with powerful destructive power and no relief!! Well relief that is to they find a ground or rather a ground found them Mars. Mars saved earth by calming it down and calm down Venus!! So in a way Venus did become both a comet and a dragon!! And it was the hero Mars that saved earth and drove the bad venus back!! The myths was correct which is quite a way to pass down HISTORY! But how did they know about Mars scar or that venus has a tail all the time!! Over 200,000 years of history of there being modern man and perhaps civilization that come and go in all that time!
has anyone ever realised the 2D flat moon we observe is a negative, a hologram on the edge of our atmosphere after reflection or bouncing off of the real 3D far moon..... i think we are looking at a negative of a projected image, where the darks and lights are inverted making holes appear as heights, and height appear as craters... yet still appearing as 3D depth... same as when people put their face in the snow which results in a 3d looking depth map but is yet inverted image. holograms only have one side you can see.... holograms have no lack of density.... holograms are made of light entirely and have no back side..... think about it, space can only be projected through, not on. the first matter met by light is around the earth.... anyways if we invert the moon's captured image again ourselves, then the electrical scarring might fit perfectly, like is seen on earth scarring examples. the martian rilles are also inverted light as recorded by us here, i think they are IN the surface, not ON the surface, and when they are IN the surface, they could just as easily be made like riverbeds from flowing water for instance. light comes to us...... we must invert the images to observe reality. once you realise this, from this line of thinking you can prove many new things from what you already know to be electric. try it... the ridges are probably mountains, and nasa depth map probably fake as they only have the same images we ave from earth in a higher resolution... reverse th anode and the cathode, see if that makes any sense with the inverted image.
The Electric Universe is so eloquent with no "black matter" "blacks holes" and all the other kind of weird stuff to make it fit their equations.
Wal Thornhill thankyou for introducing me to the electric universe..
+ Julie-Anne Teresa Lanham When it comes to the "Electric Universe" Wal's the one I like to go to. P.S. One of the members of the thunderbolts/electric universe team that Wal mentioned, Dr. C J. Ransom just published a new book, (Auroras, Petroglyphs, and Pagans) which is available at Amazon and Barnes and Noble and fits right in with what we're talking about.
Thank you, Thunderbolts Project, for your wonderfully informative videos. Always a treat !! New and true knowledge is simply the best.
Neat. Always neat to hear Wal Thornhill do a lecture.
I have studied and read cosmology and related sciences for a lifetime now. The last 40 years or so have been disappointing and I was beginning to doubt the entire concept as it stood. The Electric Universe has revived my interest. Now I have been able to renew my quest. Thank you so much Wal Thornhill for your imagination and perseverance, you have given me new direction. I believe that there is a huge amount of successful research on aircraft and space vehicles that has not been revealed to us. We may find that the great void where science has been bogged down for years was just another red herring. Such a pity; so much waste of human endeavour caused by false education. It seems the science fed to the masses does not match that which is occupying the secret research of governments. I also believe we are about to have much of it revealed to us. Had we harnessed the power of so many young minds we would have been much further advanced. I have always doubted the theory of gravity and also the speed of light. There can be no force without an equal and opposing force so that puts the accepted theory of gravity in question not withstanding the theory of light. It also must have an opposing force. I assume that the secret research of governments has been based on principles of an Electric universe for many years now.It has been in front of our eyes all this time. We only had to send up a wire extending down from a balloon and tap into the electric field differential to see a new direction for our research. We have had that technology for a couple of hundred years now. I am very interested in information showing the capacitor effect in anti gravity research. I believe it is called the Biefield-Brown effect. It will not be too long now until much is revealed to we humans who have been kept in the dark for the last seventy years or more. Such an exciting time to live for.
The Grand Canyon exhibits all the features consistent with an electrical scar, and explains all the inconsistencies and contradictions that plague mainstream hypotheses in this regard. It is the corollary of Valles Marineris on Mars.
As always, appreciate this lectures
Hope you will be uploading more of the lectures & workshops from the conferences soon .. These more lengthy discussions really are the best ;)))
Thank you so much for helping me understand the world around me more clearly!
WOW....... that was awesome. Thank you. I can not believe that mainstream planetary science has not taken this on board in a major way..... it is so obvious once you have the data.
"Mystery of the Sphinx". Came out in I think 1992. Basically proves that the Sphinx has massive water erosion and could not be any younger than 8,000 years old. I bring that up because your statement "it is so obvious once you have the data" made me think of it. You will ALMOST never have the data unless you make the conscious effort to find it which means your thought process is already in line with the discovery, its like some kind of paradox, I dont know. "Most" of the truth is available, but your thought process has to be in line with it to find the data...
+ ian fenn That's the biggest question i.e, how much info in the positive has to be shown before they do get it?
That old Menken quote about a man's paycheck being dependent on his ignorance comes to mind. It's more than just ignorance though, it's also ego and status. Spend your career teaching outmoded ideas and see how eager you are to accept the news that you are a dinosaur.
The faster science advances, the sooner the old guard needs to be replaced for the new truth to be accepted.
@@hillsideheathen5267 Indeed! Your making the same point that Einstein did when he said that science requires imagination.
@@velikovskysghost A fool is born every minute... Every generation is like a conquering horde of barbarians to be civilized... They go to better schools and have better food. They are taller and stronger. The new generation wrests the power from the last ever more quickly. Each of us wields the tools provided by the life's work of our ancestors like so many discarded cell phones - with unconscious disdain and little real understanding of the potential in our hands.
Thank you🐢🎈
Indeed, Thank You EU, TBP!
My day is made when a Wal Thornhill presentation comes out. I am not of a science mind, but very interested nonetheless. I shall view and review, broadening my understanding. Wal knows how to make the complex clear and precise.
I gave up on science as a teen when I came to understand what the Big Bang represented; the death to verifiable science by religious philosophers usurping science and free speech and thought.
At 34mins in .... blueberries are often created when arc welding.
+ Bob Backway I have a friend Nick who teaches welding in four classes and he said the very same, "I see these patterns and scars in my work everyday" and I've heard many welders say the same as well.
Thank you
Wal shines again! Thank you!
Wal, thank you for all of the effort and work you have put in over many years to make the truth available and easily understood, even by those of us who do not have an intellect which would be considered impressive.
I am sad to say you seem worn-down, (tired even), and sound rather uninspired, possibly even depressed.
I hope everything is okay, and that you are able to come back to showing the passion I know you inhabit!
Again, thank you for all you have done and accomplished.
+ Darren Hudson Wal is doing fine and although he seems a bit tired in this one it was because he had traveled all the way from Australia and anyone of us would show a little bit tired if we did the same. For the most part the work Wal's involved in is some of the most exciting work anyone can be involved in and is truly exhilarating! The energy I get when I see someone's light go on when the finally get it is electrifying for sure.
Wal Thornill, a giant who will be much missed.
Muy bueno realmente. La imagen comparativa del aislador dañado y la superficie de marte es espectacular. Gracias!!
Wow! This makes so much sense!
*Boom!!!*
Im pleased to see that visually Thornhill seems in a better Health. There is but one problem with accomplished, productive researchers, they not here long enough.
Velikosvky would be 124 years old, Alfven would be 109, Arp would be 92, Juergens would be 93. Humans are proved to have lived older with retaining their spirit.
Can you imagine if thoses guys had the longevity of the Bama county or Kargosock residents? *CAN YOU IMAGINE A EU CONFERENCE WITH SUCH AN ATTENDANCE?* that would be pure madness, in a good sense.
We was robbed from seeing them as much they were from seeing us. Try to imagine how it woulda felt.
+ TheGreen Jarret We're working on it.
Great. Kudos
Can you imagine before the Flood, villages of people hundreds of years old? The Ark has been found and studied. It contains at least one metal not made today. RUclips, Ron Wayatt.
I want to thank Wal for another great presentation and hope all who see this appreciate the work he has done and continues to do.
Superb Presentation
Noice got excited to see this as a notification.
Hey Wal....You Rock !
I had never thought about the similarity between Earth's ocean basins and Mars' excavated hemisphere until this video... We have no way of knowing when it happened, nor, in my broadened estimation of planetary longevity once we are freed of accretion disc formation theory, what star we were orbiting when it happened.
Thank you so much for this.
Very informative videos from Thunderbolts Project, & their theories make more sense than the current impact & gravitational theories. My only quibble is that I believe Immanuel Velikovsky, in his "Worlds in Collision", claims that Venus was ejected from Jupiter, hence the red "spot" on it's surface; I think something similar is also mentioned in one or more of David Talbott's videos. Jupiter is, too, considered a protostar, hence also be positively charged...
+ follyaga61 And the debate goes on, regarding both Jupiter and Saturn and their positions before, during and after the events in question. Dave Talbott does indeed postulate a variation as did Velikovsky however there is no real consensus as yet, but this conversation is really great and being in on it and or even knowing about it is exhilarating, very exhilarating indeed!
Spectacular! Could take another hour of this stuff!
+ Marcin Chyczy I totally agree, and in my opinion Wal is one of the top thinkers in the world!
There are magnetic anomalies in the Mid-continental rift. I wonder if that's and ancient "lightning" scar :p
I’m almost 100% on board the Electrical Universe Model and I have a huge amount of respect for Wal Thornhil and his work. However, is public speaking is incredibly dull and hard to sit through. If it wasn’t for the incredibly compelling info he is presenting I have serious doubt I’d be able or willing to sit through the entire speech. And I’ve watched dozens of his presentations. That aside, keep up the great work guys. The EU(not the one that’s destroying Europe) will completely destroy and eventually replace the current standard model of the universe.
sadly this makes a difference to most. Noticed how the best known and revered scientists today are entertainers?
Try messing with the speed setting. 1.25x fits pretty well for Wal's voice.
another magnificent video thank you for the education!
c. 4:50 in -- Dr Brian Ford: "If you can't explain your theory to your grandmother then you don't understand it." That's actually paraphrasing Einstein who said: "If we can't explain our science to a complete layman, then we don't fully understand it ourselves."
What a tremendous video! I watched -almost- breathlessly! Science should always be open-source and without ivory towers.
I also have a high voltage 'garage' experiment from 2013 where I place a wet piece of clay from a riverbank between an anode and cathode connected to a high voltage pulsed DC transformer. The video has been unlisted for at least 4 years now but I've made it public here ruclips.net/video/ol8VJJew1g8/видео.html because Wal Thornhill's presentations of the Anode Scar experiment with Rod Browitt always brings me back to my own video, and although the video is amateur, I'm sure some would take interest in the several phenomena that take place in it.
I really miss Wal's no-bullshit presentations. Question: why wasn't Mars re-FLOODED the same way Earth is supposed to have been flooded 12,000 BCE? Thanks TBolts.
Amazing work being done here.
Would you folks be willing to look at some ground formations in Madagascar to determine if they're possibly formed by electric conductivity? Latitude: 17°49'16.94"S Longitude: 47°24'22.13"E is the center of one of the raised vaguely roundish terrain formations. Nearby are a whole series of "scars" in the landscape, with one of them at Latitude: 17°43'39.69"S Longitude: 47°18'20.90"E ...Someone proposed a viewpoint that these sites look like gargantuan tree trunks and remnants of fallen branches, akin in shape and appearance to cedar trees...but if so, the scale is, well, unbelievably huge. (Plantlife does not scale nearly as well as electricity does, not at orders of magnitude where the "tree trunks" would be literally 5-6 miles across in diameter.)
The idea was proposed that these tree growths formed during the Carboniferous (the era when there wasn't anything in existence yet that could devour & break down the lignen in woody plants, "allowing" them to grow to gargantuan proportions), that subsequent mineral deposits caused the trunk sections to be buried and eventually harden into petrified wood, and that other mineral deposits caused the branches either to mineralize but be of a much softer, more easily eroded material, or to be buried and then later exposed to lignen-devouring sources, either way causing imprints of the giant limbs to be left behind.
While these "fallen branch impressions" do appear to look that way, it occurred to me that these same branch-like fractal geometries could also be explained as plasma etchings. Certainly, plasma discharge machining would explain why so many of these depressions in the earth have such clearly defined rims even after so much exposure to wind and rain. I'd like to pass the idea to the Thunderbolts Project for investigation and review.
Other "tree trunk" formations can be found at sites like Latitude: 17°12'11.69"S Longitude: 47°17'32.01"E ...and Latitude: 18°50'40.76"S Longitude: 46°13'9.75"E (plus a few others). The "fallen branches" are literally all over the region around these "tree trunk" uprises, scarring the landscape. The "branches" sections are almost always found with very clean-cut, sharp rims above their rounder-shaped ravines--both in terms of outline as well as cross-section profile--as opposed to the more sloped sides of other rainwater runoff ravines with more traditional V-shaped valleys and non-sharp terrain features found far more predominantly toward the coastlines and the southern reaches of the island.
It is these rounded-cut shapes, with their still very crisp escarpments, that make me think of the electrical scarring found on the surface of Mars. If anyone could investigate that, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would appreciate it, as it's quite the visual mystery as to what the true source is for these rather different-looking mesas and ravines.
Doesn't shooting electrons to a planet make it grow? -
those scares collapses back together perfectly ...
Part of the cause to Mars South Hemisphere were “scaled” but its north is because Mars share a common axis with earth in our northern sky. When Mars visit earth it’s Southern Hemisphere will closest to earth and get strike first. That also explain our grand canyon is in our northern hemisphere.
can anyone tell me is this still happening today as the craters on the moon seem to remain the same ?
No, they have remained the same for all modern history.
Yes but not on our moon it's still Happening to some moons on Jupiter!!
"moons around Jupiter" I mean
John Syrmis There is minor electrical activity currently. This relative equillibrium is punctuated periodically by cosmi plasma discharge episodes.
+ John Syrmis The planets that were involved in these events have moved into equilibrium and therefore would no longer be in close enough contact to cause such scaring, however when a comet comes in contact with a difference in electrical potential there is some scaring going on. In my opinion this is one of the most exciting conversations to be in on, so cool!
Can anyone direct me to a talk that explains the theory about how Venus came from Saturn and how it ended up where it is now? I'm familiar with Velikovsky's theory but I missed this one.
+ Tony Stokes Go to either of Wal's sites info@holoscience.com and or holoscience.com and either look it up and or with the first site you can ask him a question/s excellent reading material and its science that makes sense.
Dr. Thornhill, if the Earth has a highly conductive nickle/iron core covered by a relatively non conductive stone mantle, and then by a crust covered in a liquid electrolyte, (salt water oceans), and is connected to the sun via Birkeland currents connected at its polar regions, would not the Earth be, generally speaking, a resonant RLC, (resistor/inductor/capacitor), network load? The resistance would come from the combined overall resistance of the Earth's core, mantle, crust, atmosphere, etc..., between the poles. The inductance would come from the large mass of nickle and iron comprising the core. And the capacitance would come from the fact that you have a conductive core covered by an insulating dielectric mantle, and then the mantle covered in a conductive crust, especially one covered in electrolytic salt water oceans. All RLC networks have specific resonant frequencies that depend on the resistance, inductance, and capacitance of the circuit, so would not the Earth and other celestial bodies act in the same way? I realize that while we haven't found much liquid water on other celestial bodies, as long as their cores, crusts, and atmospheres are more conductive than their mantles, then they would still act as RLC networks.
Also, if planetary bodies do exhibit the characteristics of a capacitor due to their conductive cores being covered by dielectric like mantles, and then being covered by conductive crusts and atmospheres, then just like any capacitor, could they not be "blown out" by a current and voltage overload? Perhaps this is what might have happened to Mars and perhaps Venus during the period of the formation of Olympus Mons and Valles Marineris, which might have had something to do with the degaussing or demagnetization of Mars' and Venus' magnetic fields? Or, even if Mars' and Venus' spherical RLC networks weren't specifically "overloaded", I still think that it could be a possibility that the events during the formation of Olympus Mons and Valles Marineris, as well as the massive scaring on Venus, might have had something to do with the disappearance of their magnetic fields, as there's not many ways, that we know of at least, to demagnetize something, and other than physical shock or non-electrically generated heat, you only have electromagnetism, which is electricity and/or magnetism, as they are just two forms or aspects of the same thing.
Also, as inductors can store and discharge current, and capacitors can store and discharge voltage, could not the inductive and capacitive properties of planetary bodies contribute to the electrical charging of planets, and occasional catastrophic discharging of massive amounts of electrical power should these giant charged RLC electrodes come too close in proximity?
Anyway, Dr Thornhill, or anybody else reading this, what do you think?
John... • I believe Thunderbolts Project has a video espousing that. And thanks for the coherent explanation.
Fabulous content
Great work from Wal - again. However, I have noticed a lapse in diligence from Wal in more recent presentations that those from his earlier days in careful choice of language when claiming evidence provides proofs etc. Is he getting tired of playing to the academia game or doesn't he care anymore? I sure hope it's not just laziness because he has always been quite thorough in the past and what he has to offer is extremely valuable and shouldn't be discounted due to incoherence.
+ DLee 1100s Don't fret to much about how Wal does on this video or any other for that matter just know that he's thrown dome the gauntlet for us to pick up and run with and I for one have been sharing this information with as many as I can and will continue to do so for as long as I'am able and I know Wal will be doing the same, so lets show this old gentleman what we're made of and kick some butt in 2018 by welcoming more friends and family to this "Electric Universe".....
I suggest that in saturns heliosphere we lived to be hundreds of years old as recorded in genesis because our current suns radiation damages and ages us rapidly. And the sign of the rainbow, i suggest rainbows weren’t possible in saturns heliosphere. It also states now you will have seasons. Hot and cold. Day and night. Further confirming the mega change in environment. I also suggest the radiation/frequency change disrupted our natural harmony with the animals. Hence we are told in genesis the animals would now be afraid of us.
+ Clint Steel Perhaps 100+ years and perhaps even much longer. Many animals, humans plants etc would have been subjected to varying radiations in Saturn's blanket atmosphere. Once we left that warm and comfy zone we were subject to all hell breaking loose and it is surprising that anyone even survived it. Great comment Clint, James
James Kenyon
I also suggest that the story of jacobs ladder is from the same cataclysm. Ladder looking plasma seen in the sky during the cataclysm. And that under saturn where we evolved, our ‘third eye’ worked perfectly. Thats why jacob called that place penial. The penial gland. Of course they spell it with EL. Peniel. Because gods name was originally EL. Which is why everyone in the bible wanted to have EL in their name
+ Clint Steel Works for me and open up doors that most religious types have refused to open, and in a way I don't blame them. The total conversation depends on a keen observation and an open mind, rely on facts, and be prepared to accept where they lead. Your idea of "Peniel" to have the "El" in one's title makes sense. I've been through the (Star Series) from the late Dwardu Cardona, "A must read" according to Wal, and Dwardu goes over a lot of what your referring to in them. Many of the concepts about our life under Saturn's influence is now, I believe, coming into the minds of those who are willing to do the research. It would be interesting to see if other religions used the same process with their supposed gods concepts. Interesting comment.
James Kenyon
Ill check out the star series thank you
Wal is the man
+ Clint Steel Wal is definitely the man, or at least the most comprehensive on the subject of the thunderbolts/electric universe paradigm. I know for a fact that he has 60 years involved in research. The (Star Series) by Cardona are expensive but well worth it with prodigious references, photos and illustrations. On the note of books, Dr. C J. Ransom who has been a regular guest speaker for thunderbolts and can also be seen on the 1972 (Worlds in Collision) video with Velikovsky, has also written a new book titled,(Auroras, Petroglyphs, and Pagans.) which I now have, am reading, and highly recommend. There are a few others who's comments,like your's, reach beyond preconceived concepts and are willing to examine the information at hand and are willing to discuss things in an adult and intelligent manor, Jan Hoyle, Jon Mallary, Mhk el, Ronald Small, Werner Schopf, just to name a few. I'd like to think that this group along with a few from the senior thunderbolts team can possibly help solve many of the mysteries at hand, this is so cool!
Could such an 'arc' have caused the mass dinosaur extinction credited to a ''comet collision'' or is that too massive a deformation?? Exciting images of the rilles and 'stuff'... Looking forward to more exciting 'stuff'...
Something occurred to me regarding a possible connection between EU and "global warming/climate change". Imagine the effects on CO2 levels and the climate if there was a massive inter-planetary electrical discharge to the Earth in a location with a lot of coal, oil sands, natural gas, tundra or oil deposits! There would be immense burning and release of all those tons or gallons of fossil fuels thus reuniting the CO2 with their atmospheric origin. Yes, I'm stating that they started out in the atmosphere, became plant matter and then were catastrophically encapsulated as fossil fuels and burning them in such an imagined electrical flash would simply be the repetition of a previous life cycle.
Robert Lefebvre interesting
+ Robert Lefebvre One of the best sources for information on this topic is Dr. Velikovsky's book (Earth in Upheaval) 1955, which gives an account of what very likely happened and the results geologically and geographically, good stuff and the reprinted paperback copies are less expensive.
What are the chances all that oil and coal, so far below the earth surface, existing in so relatively small locations, in such huge reservoirs, was produced by plant life? Between
.0000000000001 and 0.
A collision of two objects formed the moon? Who's ever seen collisions of rocks forming perfect balls of rocks? No demonstrations have ever shown this.
Concentric craters or bull’s eye creators could be a symbol signifies the Bessel function of Birkeland current concentric sheath of charge flow.
It should be point out and well recognized that Birkeland current isn’t any current in its purist energy form. Since static charge DONOT migrate and it needs a “carrier” to do so and that carrier is space particles. Without charged particles there WILL be no migrating static charge ie (Birkeland) current.
Non concentric craters, such as relativity large crater and cannon scaring, were created by sudden discharge, since Birkeland current needs time - to establish and to build crater. Suddenly discharge is more associate with interplanetary discharge.
Wouldn't the exploding planet hypothesis proposed by astronomer Tom Van Flandern explain at least some of the electrical discharge machining? The energy wave and embedded debris would no doubt have profound effects on any other body encountered as it's blast wave expanded. I don't recall what the EU has to say of this theory. It would definitely fit the bill for such an event.
+ Kreg Hines I met Tom Van Flandern at the 2000 Kronia conference in Portland, Kronia was thunderbolts.info before its name changed, and Wal pointed out to Tom that before we can have an exploding planet we need to have a reason for the planet to explode and as Wal also points out when any big planets with electrical potential they will separate from each other before colliding although they would pass electric arcs back and fourth.
You have to wonder if the asteroid belt, which is right outside Mars orbit, between Mars and Jupiter, is filled with electrically excavated debris from Mars northern, or “scalped” hemisphere. 22:32
Link: i.ytimg.com/vi/LWMHIkIFwEQ/maxresdefault.jpg
Amazing
I love your theorie's but why dont we see it somewhere else in the sky happening right now??
+ Filthje Filth Because the planets that were involved are no longer close enough to cause interplanetary electrical discharges!
James Kenyon And that electric discharge changed their orbits that much ? That seems really odd.
Most geologists agree that the Grand Canyon is only approximately 5 million years old, a mere blip on the radar of time geologically speaking. How does this line up with your theory of electrical formation as apposed the the current theory of erosion? I could see that the truth could lie in a combination of these theories.
The Grand Canyon exhibits all the features consistent with an electrical scar, and explains all the inconsistencies and contradictions that plague mainstream hypotheses in this regard. It is the corollary of Valles Marineris on Mars.
These features resemble those produced by lightning strikes, perhaps better thought of as thunderbolts on this scale.
+ dj33036 .dj63010 Most geologists are repeating, or parroting, what they were taught in school/college etc, based on how long it would have taken nature to slowly carve and or build up these Earthly features i.e, erosion, wind, etc,however if these formations are tied to electrical scaring then the features could have happened in a day or even much less and in my opinion that's precisely what happened as the majority of evidence shows. The work of the late Dwardu Cardona in his (Star Series) recommended reading, goes into detail on how many of the features we now see came about + a lot more of an historic nature.
GCR penetration skews molecular decay dating. Decay varies with the sun's polar magnetic field strengths, and through them, the energy imparted to our magnetosphere and our systems heliosphere.
The further back one looks, the more adjustments are required, and the more uncertain the results. Beyond ten or fifteen thousand years, all bets are off, because of things like the Charlemagne Event, and the sun's heliosphere's and our magnetosphere's varying abilities, to redirect incoming Galactic Cosmic Rays away from Earth.
Geology was an art, like astrology is, before molecular decay dating rendered it quantifiable.
In many respects, it still is an art. Today, finding precious metals for example, requires insight and a forensic eye. Just as it has always required. Technology has improved the tools but the mainstream interpretations of geological history and timelines, rarely if ever, result in such finds.
Even the age of the Sphinx is in question precisely because of the rift between molecular decay dating and the artful application of geological force interpretations. Specifically, water erosion evidence and time of exposure to the elements as opposed to being shielded while buried.
Geology was called upon to determine its age. It cannot artfully nail it down yet, and molecular decay dating does not help. Archeologists use 100 year old consensus geology opinion, to base timelines on it's creation and that, is used for establishing timelines for other archaeological finds on earth.
The standard belief on the formation of our Grand Canyon, is based on flawed theory. Consequently it, as well as subsequent theories based on that timeline, are as well.
The only proof of its age resides in long held belief. Just as the mainstream consensus on the process our sun uses to function is based upon.
Flawed foundations!
What we do have, that you'll never hear about in a college geology class, are rational alternatives we can seriously consider, based upon far more rational ideas than the vague, unfalsifiable theories of timelines spanning millions of years of pressure, water, and heat.
Kinda like astronomy's dependence on explosions, collisions, and gravity. At some point it becomes nonsense, when alternatives exist. That's why Aarp's work is not taught to astronomy students, and why John Casey's work is not taught to budding climate scientists.
Certainty excludes doubt. Alternatives encourage it.
One road advances understanding. One does not. Politics and competition for funding does the rest, as the layman rests confused.
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+ Jon Mallary Beautiful! and spot on as well! If it matters that our intelligence is the most valuable thing we have then I'am truly happy that I stand with the the thunderbolts/electric universe team. Best always Jon, James
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Let me stand on Velikovsky’s shoulder to say this. The fact that American Indians can read the scars on Mars without telescope by naked eyes was because Mars was a visiting planet to earth past. If not of interplanetary static charge equalization between Mars and earth there is no Valles Marineris today.
i think there are some stories written in stone long time ago.. "enuma Elish"
@16:35 I wonder what the ambient temp is in that chamber?
Could they also be battle scars?
+ Edmund Marler Yes, battle between two planets with electric arcs passing between them.
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Interplanetary arcing did so with opposite charge polarity, and hence, the exchange was direct current and not alternating current.
So do our experimentalist set your generator in direct current mode. We will fail our experiment to represent electric machining of landscape.
Yet it hits the cosmologists in their faces and their all clamming for finding the closest black hole to blame what just hit them.
goodbye carl sagan. hello wal.
Venus streamers when first born look like those on the head of the Statue of Liberty? Also I think it's pretty safe to say Halloween is about Venus judging by the pumpkin looking image of her @ 30:47.
Is it possible planets could be like giant geode's, Hollow inside with varying forms of crystals. As the crystals are pinched and squeezed by the centrifugal spinning motion of the planet they produce electricity thus producing magnetism and positive and negative poles. Somewhere in this mix gravity is formed.
Various types of crystals produce various levels of electricity which could also explain different levels of magnetism and gravity on planets of different composition.
anyone who know hows welding works knows about "blueberries" ;)
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how can we make predictions of possible more high magnitude electrical events on earth?
how could you look at a photo of Venus and not see electricity?
who doesn't see lichtenberg (?) trails like those from sending a current through a saline-soaked wood plank 🤯
When will the facts finally catch up with the "science" community? I am not a scientist, just someone who has always been interested in it, but this is so obviously the explanation of evidence that they have to be akin to ostriches.
+ Tom Laddus Spot on Tom, spot on. Nw when they do get their heads out of the sand and or wherever they have it stuck in the world of science will get a great shot in the arm and hopefully it is sooner then later.
Alright. Let's say for the moment that you're correct about Venus coming forth from Saturn. Here's my question: how and why, and where did the solid matter that composes Venus come from? How do you pull a terrestrial planet out of a gas giant?
A gas giant is not made of gas only. As far as we know, they could have huge rocky cores hiding beneath the gas, Jupiter was even hypothesized to have a diamond made core. Of course there are issues with the calculated density of such planets, but that's a story for another day. The "when" is supposed to be roughly 10k years ago, related to the younger dryas event and, in the full story, to the entry of Saturn into the Sol system. Venus was supposedly born out of Saturn's South pole in full view of humanity, as a result of the violent attempt of Saturn to adjust to the new electrical environment, which involved a violent flare (the "fiat lux") and the ejection of a highly charged body (Venus and maybe others too), which radiantly discharged for a very long time. Connected to the same event there was the emanation of the spiralling "Word of God", an example of which can be seen in the picture taken by the Alma telescope of the star R Sculptoris. And the story goes much further ;)
@@giacomostefanoni7634 What picture? Can you provide a link please?
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Now how in the cripes did the Aztecs know to call Mars the "scarface"? Lucky guess?
If our moon was constructed by gravity with debris on an orbit where our moon is today we can find that gravel field in our country side full of moon size spheres.
"Rebound", but doesn't the material sink back and then you would have flat center? Had any idiot of the mainstream seen a shell impact with central peak?
21:32 - known to the "American Indians"...Having a small % of Blackfoot in my ancestry I would be interested in knowing which tribe? Did ALL NA tribes believe this?
+ Brian Martel My friend Nick is of the Lakota Sioux tribe of Original Natives, as he likes to call them, and he is well aware of the commonality of his tribes old stories and those of neighboring tribes. I myself being related to 3 Native Peoples Navajo, Blackfoot, and Iroquois can tell you that from my early teachings from my grandmother's Jessie and Zeana that at least these three have similar stories. I'm reading the late Dwardu Cardona (Star series) of books and reading the last (New Born Star) and can tell you that the work of Dave Talbott, Ev Cochrane, and Dwardu himself show that these stories are not only nationwide but worldwide and so, yes, all of the ancient people's believed this.
@james kenyon all of no people believe all of anything. And no substantial evidence has been presented. And having a percentage of heritage or race proves nothing whatsoever. Being a rifleman in WWI doesn't make a WWI scholar.
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Sorry, but I don't agree.
1) you explain the moon craters are of electric origin and you cite Dr. Ford. In your words, he compares the moon craters with craters made my electric sparc machines. These machines are made to machine parts. My question is: Where is the cosmic sparc machine which creates the craters on the planets and moons, and who has used them. First of all: An electric sparc machine drills holes not by a single spark, but by thousands and millions of individual sparks which are between an shaped electrode and the item you want to machine. And the gap between this e.g. cylindric shaped electrode is only a fraction of the diameter of the hole which will me made by these sparks. Just saying oh the look is similar to the craters on moon, makes absolutely no sense for someone who has an idea how spark machines work. A single stroke can not produce a crater like the ones we see at moon.
2) Where does the electricity flow? Electricity always flows in a circle (Kirchhoffs Laws of Electricity), where is the second conductor? The way back to the electric source?
3) The whole capacity of earth is about 900µF This capacitiy is often a nice calculation example for students of elecricity in the first semester. However, a 900µF capacitor quite small, the capacitors inside your stereo amplifier ar often in the range of 10000µF. The only way to generate sparks of the size which would be necessary to make craters with kilometers (or miles) of diameter, would be possible if you charge a planet or moon to billions of billions of volt, but then the electric attraction between this body and his next body would be much larger than the attraction generated by gravity. And after the dischage, both bodies will have the same potential against the environment (e.g. the sun). Here again is my question, how can a solar system work, when electric charges appear and disappear (because of discharges) and these radical changes of charges leads to radical changes in forces which push or pull on the position of the planets and moons? If these charges exist, they would have destroyed the whole solar system within short time.
I think the reason they hate electricity is because it implies God, if it didnt they would love it
I LOVE this guy but he plods. Speed him up to 1.25.
New Zealand is an electric scar
+ Arjan Plantinga It is quite possible as it is also quite possible that many of the features we see on Earth are indeed electrical scars, we're just not aware of it because we're just getting introduced to the electric universe thanks to Wal Thornhill, Dave Talbott and the entire thunderbolts team. Great stuff to study.
Classic s-shape, carving to the southwest, lifting to the northeast.
+ Arjan Plantinga Michael Steinbacker made references to the same, good comment.
As I said before we know right now that the solar winds push Venus electromagnetic field so far back it forms a tail that is close or barely touches earth with not really any side effects!! Now today the same thing happens to earth with solar winds push earth's electromagnetic field forming a tail that sometimes touches Mars and sometimes cause dust storms!! Now it Venus etectromagnetic field is hit by a very large cronia mass ejection well it will push Venus's electromagnetic field back touching and or engulfing earth! Now Venus electromagnetic field would be supercharged and create massive lighting volts and massive destructive storms. Earth engulf in Venus massive tail it electromagnetic feild is pushed back and super charged creating massive lighting volts and massive storms! Some of the massive lighting volts send debris high up in the air exchange between planets! Both planets are super charge filled with powerful destructive power and no relief!! Well relief that is to they find a ground or rather a ground found them Mars. Mars saved earth by calming it down and calm down Venus!! So in a way Venus did become both a comet and a dragon!! And it was the hero Mars that saved earth and drove the bad venus back!! The myths was correct which is quite a way to pass down HISTORY! But how did they know about Mars scar or that venus has a tail all the time!! Over 200,000 years of history of there being modern man and perhaps civilization that come and go in all that time!
Elon Musk must know something by using stainless steel. Is he absorbing the electricity to help propell the ship?
Please remove the ads from your videos. These people are not promoting science. They are provocateurs and opportunistic.
has anyone ever realised the 2D flat moon we observe is a negative, a hologram on the edge of our atmosphere after reflection or bouncing off of the real 3D far moon..... i think we are looking at a negative of a projected image, where the darks and lights are inverted making holes appear as heights, and height appear as craters... yet still appearing as 3D depth... same as when people put their face in the snow which results in a 3d looking depth map but is yet inverted image. holograms only have one side you can see.... holograms have no lack of density.... holograms are made of light entirely and have no back side..... think about it, space can only be projected through, not on. the first matter met by light is around the earth.... anyways if we invert the moon's captured image again ourselves, then the electrical scarring might fit perfectly, like is seen on earth scarring examples. the martian rilles are also inverted light as recorded by us here, i think they are IN the surface, not ON the surface, and when they are IN the surface, they could just as easily be made like riverbeds from flowing water for instance. light comes to us...... we must invert the images to observe reality. once you realise this, from this line of thinking you can prove many new things from what you already know to be electric. try it... the ridges are probably mountains, and nasa depth map probably fake as they only have the same images we ave from earth in a higher resolution... reverse th anode and the cathode, see if that makes any sense with the inverted image.
U should try some optical device, binoculars, telescope or somerhing when looking at the moon
Lol..
Your lack of grammar, punctuation, and the very clear fact that you've never used a telescope... is very disturbing.
Wordy Thoughts lol fool.
Don't smoke dope before looking up !
Isn't the Eye of Sahara the place of enormous interplanetary discharge as well!?