On the water Gt56 vs Gt54!!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- First I would like to preface this video by saying I haven't had nearly as much time on the water with the gt56 as I have my gt54, so I am still learning the ins and outs of this transducer. With that being said, I LOVE what I am seeing so far and I wish I had a good way to record my screen without glare on these Echomaps! I will definitely have more videos in the future to further cover this topic as I know this is only scratching the surface.
This Video will show you some of the differences between Garmins new Gt56 transducer vs the Gt54 and show you on the water differences over the same structure etc. For more information and specs comparing the Gt56 to the Gt54 check out my other video here:
• GT56 UHD vs GT54 UHD ...
I would also like to point out that some of the screenshots that were posted towards the end of the video have a note stating "Di and SI frequencies are the same Image will be darker" This is because while i was on the water i discovered that when you have both the side imaging and down imaging set on the same frequency (which is possible with the gt56 not the gt54) that the returned image would be darker. Check out my quick tip on that topic here to see exactly how dramatic it can be:
• Garmin Gt56 1 min Quic...
Id also like to give a huge shout out to the guys over at Hennessey Outdoor Electronics as they are the ones responsible for me getting my hands on this GT56 so that i could make this video before the water froze up. If you would like to get your own GT56 please give them a shout and tell them i sent you .
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Thanks for watching and stay tuned for more!
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I bought a 63sv w/ UHD54 for my Hobie Outback and it is way beyond anything I need and light years ahead of what was used when I went fishing with my dad in the 70’s through 90’s. Now I see livescope where you can even see your lure in the water. Way beyond what I need. The 54 is as advanced as I go.
So glad I went with the gt56 in my kayak. So much clearer image. Thanks buddy for for the video.
I mounted the GT56 about a week ago and thought there was quite a difference. It's not a cheap transducer but I was glad I got it. I see shadows of fish and structure better and gives me a better idea of what is there.
Check out my other quick tip on the gt56 and what happens when you run the same frequency on both side and down imaging.
At least on my unit anyways
Overall very impressed so far!
What freq using on reveal fish? In my experience 455khz is best for fish finding, they shines white! 1070khz best for details or obstacles..
Understanding and knowledgeable customer service. Very helpful.
Thanks for the comparison between the two transducers...great job. It appears the GT56 had a slight edge on a couple of those images...however, I’m not too sure it’s worth spending the extra cash for the 56. I’ll have to check out your future comparison videos.
I agree with you totally I just bought a new Garmin and I opted for the gt54 rather than the 56 because I got it for $300 less
Thank you for watching the video. i upgraded the sonar for kayak bass fishing from striker 7sv to ecomap ultra 102sv.
select gt54 or gt56
There was no need for gt56 in lake bass fishing, not deep sea fishing.
He said that the gt56 is only good in deep water than the gt54, but the resolution is a little lower and the clarity is lower.
And only the 800HZ frequency was added, there is no difference, but I chose GT56 after watching your video before purchase. It is expensive, but I hope my choice is a good choice.
Was able to pickup a Echomap UHD 73sv for $500 from Bass Pro Shop and even after seeing this video I am happy with my purchase. This is my first fish finder so I think it will still be a great added addition and much better than if I had gone for a CV model of similar price. The extra $400 for the GT56 is the same cost to upgrade models to get one with it so I can always upgrade if needed. For now I will try and hold out on the GT54 until Garmin inevitably releases a new model that tanks the price of the GT56.
Welcome to the garmin family! With the smaller screens the benefit of the 56 is diminished greatly! I’m your situation you’ll gain more by upgrading the unit over the transducer
very helpful I'm waiting on Ultra 106sv and gt56 to come in now ......thanks
Thanks for posting this...your video convinced me to look at other brands. Not impressed with the 56 (or 54) at all. At this point I would only buy a Garmin for the forward facing sonar (no side/down/2D).
You did a good job on the video, nothing personal!
Hmm that’s strange. A lot of people who have birds that it’s just as good, and I would have to agree.. I’d say the too 3 are birds/garmin then way in the back with lowrance.
Ffs sakes don't buy bird. I hate mine
I've owned Lowrance, birds, and garmins. I haven't used Bords mega imaging but I thought my 93sv blew those out of the water when comparing clarity. Garmin makes some good stuff and imo are leading the pack when it comes to fish finders.
By far the best video for comparison
Thanks bro, I’ve been looking for a comparison of these two transducers.
You are welcome glad you enjoyed
Good stuff, I have a gt36uhd waiting for the ice to melt... excited to see how it performs
I’d be interested to see if there is any difference between the 56 and the 36. I know my 34 was MUCH different from my 54
YEAH-BUDDY...THANKS!!!!!!!!!....THUMBS-UP!!!!!!!!!!
I noticed your livescope on pole when will you be doing some settings for it especially for bass fishing there’s very few out there 90 percent are for crappie Thanks and keep up great content
Hi Craig!
I didn’t really have plans to do livescope settings because there are soo many out there, BUT I did not know they were mostly for crappie fishing!
That is something I can look into doing. What would you like to see?
What a great Christmas present! Many Thanks. I had been waiting a lot for it. There are no comparable videos here in Germany. Also no information about the use of different frequencies. I'm really looking forward to your next tips and trix. Merry Christmas and stay healthy. Greetings from Hamburg / Germany
I will be making a video showing when and why to use the different frequencies so stay tuned for that.
And I’m glad I could help you out! It’s cool to know my videos are making it around the world!
Have a great holiday!
@@MGMarineTech I'm curious
thanks for making!
Dear friend, I asked this question to your competitors, but what is being done to ensure that the Active Target kit shows at least the same as the Garmin Panoptix Livescope? and what do you do to make your
normal 102 with 64 sensor product showed fish in muddy water?
Thank you!
The GT 56 is way clearer. Many of the rocks don't even show up on the GT54. Which makes me wonder how long will it be before Garmin switches to the GT56 in their Force trolling motors.
The gt56 is definitely a better transducer all around. You hit the nail on the head !
I know this is an old video but a great comparison. I’m not sure if it was the difference in bottom structure, but I have seen better images using the 54 than what was shown. Like the ones on you video about the settings for the 54. I have no doubt the 56 is better and I am thinking of buying one. I’m just curious if I’m really going to see improvements with my 93uhd lower screen resolution.
I always tell people the biggest difference between the 54 and 56 is the side imagine range.
The clarify is pretty equal on both.
So if side imaging range is important to you then it’s the way to go.
I have them in stock for 399.99 shipped.
Or if you wanted to upgrade to a larger unit I take trade ins
@@MGMarineTech That’s been my understanding. The 56 does appear to get crisper edges and show more detail. Makes sense with the higher frequency and pushing more hertz. Good to know you have them in stock.
Hey so for down imaging is it the same settings as side imaging. Beside a different frequency on down imaging do 840 kHz vs 1070 kHz. Also what settings do u do for your traditional
Down imaging I use much less brightness and contrast as most of time it doesn’t have as much water to penetrate (being that it’s going straight down and not off to the side) so the returns are much brighter. I don’t know those settings off the top of my head. For the most part they change a lot depending on the bottom structure and water I am in.
As far as 2d I use pretty much stock settings with a auto med or auto high for gain.
@@MGMarineTech k I don’t know too much about fish finders. I just got a Garmin Echomap 7sv with the GT-56 transducer for my kayak. I’m just trying to figure out how to make my image as clear as possible. But I don’t know what I’m looking for in a clear down image or traditional. Thanks to u I do know about side imaging.
Start off by using the same settings that I show for side imaging. Except different frequency for side and down. Then play with brightness and contrast. You want enough of each that you get a good picture without soo much that it washes out directly under the boat.
Another tip for down imaging is to manually set the depth and run it about 10’ deeper than the water you are in. So if you are in 20’ of water set the range at 30 this will show more bottom structure
I have an older Echomap Plus 93sv with a GT52HW. So adding a GT54 or 56 will not give me a better picture? I've read the Plus head unit is still the same spec as the newer UHD units. Or is that incorrect?
The plus units can not drive the uhd transducers properly. Need a uhd or better to take full advantage.
I would HIGHLY recommend the new UHD2. I have them in stock ready to ship!
What’s your depth here? I have the gt56 and if I get into deeper than 50’ the black area (water column) takes up the whole screen if I’m at 100’ range. I have to go out to 200’ to use it. Any recommendations? Seems to do this at all 3 frequencies.
Yes the black area is the water column. So if you have your range set to 70’ and you are in 50’ Of water, you will only be scanning roughly 20’ of the actual bottom.
In 50’ the gt56 will have no issues scanning at 100’ range. I use 100’ range 80% of the time in water from 5’ to 50’ in 1070
@@MGMarineTech ok great! Thanks for the info. So the deeper I go I’ll need to bump the range out further. I wasn’t aware that the depth of the water counted in the range. I thought it was the distance out from under the boat. Probably sound a bit stupid but I’m brand new to side imaging. I really appreciate the time!
@@jw5507 yes, absolutely
So if you were in 70’ and you range was 50’ you would only be scanning water column and it would be all black.
What are the clouds in the water column area in some of your SI images @4:09?
That is prop wash that is dissipating in the water column.
I drove through the section a couple of time and it will do that in the water column when you drive through prop wash.
It takes a lot longer than you would think to totally dissipate.
Can i network a 106svu with two (non uhd) 93sv units? On console will be the 106sv mainly for scanning and one 93sv for map/navigate.
Another 93sv on the bow for waypoints/marking. Thanks
Yes check out my networking video. That’s my exact setup. 126 and two 93 plus’s
I just bought two 106sv’s with GT 54’s from Cabelas. They’re on sale for $999. I’m mainly fishing for Kokanee in deep (sometimes 150’-200’). Will the GT 54 read fish down that far or should I be looking for something else? Not real worried about structure. Thanks for all the great vids!
Yeah in those depths you need good 2d look into a gt51
MG Marine Tech Are the 51’s compatible with the 106sv? Is the 106 capable of getting radar hookups? My goal is to get in to blue water…(North River 21’ Seahawk)
@@stoweman34 the 106 will work with the gt51
The 106 is not radar compatible.
MG Marine Tech Thank you! Appreciate your time!
Too bad there isn’t a way to make the echo map compatible with my Ulterra mega Si
Nice music
Max , how do you set the bottom of your screen so those menus hide them pop up ? Thanks
Hey bob, look through my other videos. I have one labeled something along the lines of “make your screen bigger for free” it will walk you through the steps to auto hide that menu bar
Hope that helps!
Any suggestions on fish finder and transducer to get the best side imaging possible of any manufacturer?
Hi Bob,
The side imaging battle is really between Humminbird and Garmin. A lot of people say the humminbirds have the best side imaging, but from what I’ve seen, the garmins with the gt56 is just as good.
For me it boiled down to ease of use and versatility as well as customer support. Garmin wins hands down in those categories.
@@MGMarineTech We did have a Echomap 94SV 2017. The side imaging was terrible and support did not help me even said it is working. I had excellent support on everything else. I liked the features of the Garmin unit. I could create combo screens, set the order for screens. I also prefer the map recording option of the Garmin which only requires going to the store and buy a standard 32 GB Mini SD Card.
We bought the Humminbird Helix 12 Mega Si GPS G2N June 2017. Humminbird map recording is not all that good plus to save your map requires a $100 SD Card that you can back up data only, card goes bad have to buy a new one. Plus I think the Garmin recorded a wider path for map. I sold the Garmin Echomap 94SV because the main option I wanted was Side Imaging and it was terrible.
The Humminbird had great side imaging first trip on the water. Problem is it isn't always good and works one time and not the next. I showed schools of Chinook and a bait ball of Anchovy one trip and never did that again. I tried everything to get it to do that again and never did. Humminbird support never gave any real answer. I did get good support from Humminbird otherwise. Humminbird unit sent in five times for repair twice replacing circuit board. Last time replaced power head and two transducers.
Does the Garmin have the option to use two transducers like the Humminbird units. I have been running a Sonar and Si transducer with a Y cable that connects the sonar from the sonar transducer and Si, Di temp from the Side Imaging Transducer. Each is adjusted to get the best sonar and side imaging. Wondering if Garmin has a similar option.
@@Askeyb2011 was your echomap 94sv a plus or a Uhd? The uhd units have a much better image, especially with the gt56. For the best side imaging I would recommend a “ultra” unit they come in a 10” or a 12” as far as a budget unit, and then from there the top of the line is the gpsmap units but they are big money.
You can run 2 transducers on a garmin with a ycable. But you only need to do that when you run a separate 2d transducer such as a thru hull for better at speed 2d readings. (If you mount a all in one transducer properly that’s not a issue most of the time)
But yes all in all garmin wins in my book. Especially since the introduction of the gt56 transducers.
I have several videos showing what you can get out of them too.
If you would like message me on Facebook and I can send you pics of my side imaging. It’s very crisp
The diff can’t be that severe. Do you have chart speed setting the same on the 57, or on auto. ?
It’s that severe I promise. Chart speed were the same.
Both were dialed in with my settings,
Ranges were different because the 54 can see pass 60-70’
Is the 93sv w/ gt54 still a good option to pair with the livescope plus system?
Yes it should work better than the original lvs32
I thought the 455 kHz frequency on the GT54 was for longer range visibility. If so would a closer comparison be the Gt54 on 455kHz vs the GT56? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding.
With frequency and side imaging, the higher the frequency the more detailed the image should be,
BUT that comes at a cost. You loose range with higher frequencies.
So a gt54 on 455 compared to a gt56 on 1070 wouldn’t be a even comparison
My gt54 is toast. Should I try to upgrade to gt56? Fl waters are normally under 20ft deep. Main use is side scan. Thx:)))))))
I would say if you are wanting the best side imaging and fish 20’ and under the 56 is the ducer you want!
Love the footage, thinking of updating. Is this the Garmin 93SV UHD model?
No this is a ultra 126
@@MGMarineTech I am thinking of getting the Garmin 93SV UHD model with the gt56 transducer. What are your thoughts? Is it worth it?
100% if you don’t have the unit yet, get it with the gt56 hands down.
Contact my friends over at Hennessy outdoor electronics. Tell them I sent you and I’m sure they will be able to help you out.
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@@MGMarineTech Thanks I will do that. Keep up the good work I enjoy your tips on the Garmin products. I already have a Livescope, but want to add a second Garmin in the back by the tiller motor.
Would this upgrade make a difference as well with the echomap uhd 74sv?
Yes and no. The smaller the screen the less I would say it’s “worth it” and what I mean by that is… the biggest advantage to the 56 in my opinion, is that you can scan further in its highest khz setting for the most crisp picture..
So if you scan 100’ to each side on a 12” screen compared to 100’ to each side on a 7” screen things will be much much smaller if that makes sense. (Both screens are showing 200’ of information but on screens that are vastly different sizes)
Overall length of 56 transducer?
They are very long!
Thank you so much, this helps
Love to see you do a split screen of both at the same time.
You mean on the unit at the same time?
If so I don’t have the ability to do that.
That would be cool though
@@MGMarineTech no I mean like overpay the recordings so from both transducers on your video as close as you can so we can see each item the transducers pick up and compare better. I know with as close as the frequencies are you can’t prolly run them at the same time.
Yeah that’s a good idea. I will try to do that
Thank you
@@The_Garmin_Guru You asked for it so here it is ! studio.ruclips.net/user/videovez37_lF2ZQ/edit
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Is there any setting for the gt54 that will help clear it up some more?
The settings that I showed in this video for the gt54 are what I use 99% of the time. I really only change contrast while I’m on the water depending on conditions.
The main advantage of the gt56 will be the range it can see and it produces better shadows etc .
@@MGMarineTech Ok, Thanks
Will the 54 work alright for just lake fishing?
Yes as long as you know how to operate it and don’t expect it to do what the gt56 can you will be perfectly fine.
Check out my settings videos for the gt54 and that will give you a great start.
What is the overall length of the 56? Bracket mount to to oh transducer? In inches
The transducer is about 8-3/8” long
@@MGMarineTech got 9 3/8 of clearance to work with on my yak. How much longer does the mount bracket make it?
@@dunham562 shoot me a email at mgmarinetech@gmail.com and I can send you more specs tonight.
What model Garmin head unit are you using?
I run a 126 ultra and 2 93’s in my other videos
Do you feel it’s worth the money on buying a new one to replace the 54?
I do yes. But side imaging is crucial to me so I want to best I can get.
Can you do a video of gt56 vs gt51?
Those two transducers are VASTLY different, and meant for two different scenarios. The gt51 is meant for offshore and deep water
The gt56 is a high definition transducer and meant for “shallow” water
Pls Test GPSMAP 923xsv + gt56 😋
I wish I could!! Send me your gps map and I’ll test it! And send it back
How does each transducer work in 90-150 foot depth?
Which aspect are you interested in? Side ? Down? 2d?
@@MGMarineTech I'm sure it god for down. Wondering how the side 3d is in 150 ft depth
@@mikecucinella8781 I was in 150-190’ ish and had to keep it on 455 in those depths to get any kind of reading.
Where I was at there wasn’t much to see.
how comparable is the gt 56 compared to humminbird mega 360 or just humminbird side imaging.
I personally can’t answer that. Others I know that have used both said that are extremely similar now.
Humminbird has been the leader in side imaging for a while now but the gt56 is the best transducer garmin has had yet in my eyes. And from what I’m seeing I would say it’s right there too.
@@MGMarineTech i have 2 93sv echomap plus one on bow and 1 on console. Recently bought livescope. if i was to buy the 106sv uhd does that come with the gt56 ducer? What would be best setup at bow? 106 as the down and side with 93 used for livescope or vice versa. this would be instead of buying a 360.
Sorry I missed part of your other question.
As far as it compared to 360 they are two different tools. 360 is essentially side imaging that spins 360* it’s all still “history” side imaging just gives you off to the side and only really works while you are moving forward.
As far as the new units, they should come with the gt56, but I would verify to make sure . I would personally use the 106 unit at the console for side and down imaging due to its screen size and its screen resolution. Those are two key factors when it comes to clarity in side view and down view.
Then I would either have one or both 93’s up front for live scope etc. if you only run 1 up front then put the other at the console for mapping.
And make sure to network them all together. This way you’ll be able to share waypoints across all screens, and even share all connected transducers to any screen (including. Live scope)
@@MGMarineTech I have the gt52 transducers. So I would need two gt56 ducers if I want clearer pictures at bow and console? Correct?
Hello! How are you? Say gt 56 better than gt 54? If so, how? Should you buy it? Thank you
I think it’s much better. The return from the transducer is much further to the sides of the boat.
@@MGMarineTech Thank you I `m from Russia! Subscribe and like!
@@MGMarineTech Maybe you know Garmin will have new sonar with good screen resolution? And then 800 × 480 is not serious anymore! Thank you
The echomap ultra units have a much higher resolution which is why I recommend them soo much for side imaging etc. (1280x800 pixels!! )
Cool to see my videos making it to Russia! Thank you!
На двух метрах всё равно не работает, чего хорошего?
Contrast was different. 54 was 81 and 56 was 51
Yes I know, I showed that.
If the contrast for the gt56 was the same as the gt54, the gt56 would have been way too bright and you would have lost all the detail especially close to and under the boat.
I tuned both for best results.
It sure isn't a Humminbird Mega SI +
So is the 54 not worth it
The gt54 is still very good but if you are wanting to get the most out of your unit the gt56 is definitely the way to go.
It's on sale for $450. So I went ahead and got it. Should be fine for now.
@@The92ford yeah you can always upgrade later
@@The92ford bro the gt54 transducer is legit you made a good decision and you will be very pleased with it GURANTEED!
@@tbrown737 just got today and have it hooked up. Love the features. Could be bigger. But will work just fine.
Please NO music. Thanks for content!
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Gt56. What are all the frequency ranges that can be selected?
I cover all the technical data on both of these transducers in my first gt54 V’s gt56 videos.
But the gt56 has:
455/800/1070khz side and down imaging as well as high wide traditional sonar.
Thanks I’ll take the 54 for half the price
GT-56
Gt56 looks a little hotter idk if its worth 300 bucks more though but id have to use both a liitle bit to decide ive got the 54 lol
With the gt56 you’d be able to see Slabs out to 100’ compared to 50-60 ;)
@@MGMarineTech that would be nice 👍
The 56 is better in deep water 30’ and deeper than the 54
Yes, for sure.
But the 56 is better in all water depths in my opinion
Where is the fish ???? this sensor does not see fish either ... I love Garmin, but Lawrence is better!!! Helloy from Belarus!!
It definitely does see fish! You can in my other video “fish on side imaging”
Idk who Lawrence never heard of her ;)
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Not too much difference
to me it looks like the 54 was better.
Curious as to why you say that?
Detail wise?
@@MGMarineTech === just seem to stand out a little more but that just me watch the video 3 times.
just watched a video from KansasYouthBass on the 54 and 56 i have to say now the 56 is far better, i been looking into getting a 54 but going with the 56 now.