Dear friend, I asked this question to your competitors, but what is being done so that the Active Target kit shows at least the same as Garmin's Panoptix Livescope? , and what are you doing to make your product show fish in troubled waters?
I am getting a 1243 xsv. Fishing coastal 250 feet or less in the ocean. Would I be better off with the 52, 54, or 56? I won’t want to spend extra if I don’t need it. Thanks!
Thank you! The gt54 is not fully compatible with the plus units. Now if you have the 54 plugged into a uhd unit and the uhd unit networked to a plus unit, the plus will see the 54
I'm looking at the 56 but what can I expect in 250' of water just traditional sonar? looking for either the 74 or 94 depending on what will fit in the space I have
Yeah you will pretty much be limited to 2d at those depths. The 56 might do down imaging and some side imaging at those depths. Take a look at MGMARINETECH.com I have those units in stock
Absolutely!! You will be getting two huge upgrades. A MUCH better transducer that has a dedicated down image element (the cv 52 uses the side imaging elements to make the down image) And a much bigger screen which really helps with the detail in the side imaging. If you want a step up from that look into the echomap ultra units, they have 3x the pixels for a amazing side image picture.
Nice video. I have a 73sv on my bow. I just got a great deal on a 93sv both are Echo Map units. Can I remove the 73 and add the 93 without changing the wires harnessing? or are the wires dedicated to each unit?
Hi thanks for the video. I am new to fishing and have a 4 inch lowrance without gps or sideview or anything. I have seen the Garmin UHD 93sv for $650 with GT54 transducer. I fish in the lakes around Raleigh NC, mostly fishing shallow at the moment. You mentioned that the great thing about the GT56 is its flexibility with all the different frequencies (KHZ). Can you please explain what that means? Does a newbie need that? Thanks!
Absolutely!! So I think the easiest way to describe it would be that each kHz setting has its pros and cons. The higher the kHz the more detail you will get in the image on the screen. But that comes at a cost. Higher kHz frequencies can’t travel as far in the water so the range (out to the sides of the boat and underneath) is limited. The gt54 only had two options for side imaging. 455 and 1120. 455 you can scan 200+ feet off to the side or in deeper water (45’+) but the image wouldn’t have much detail. Now if it was ran in. 1120 kHz it would have great detail but a very limited range (I typically saw that the range was limited to about 50-60’ off to the side after that the image would get dark quickly. and water that was 35-45’ deep depending on bottom structure) So as a rule of thumb you would use lower frequencies to scan wide areas to find structure you are looking for and then get closer to them and switch to higher frequencies to get detail and see if that structure you found Is holding fish etc. Now the gt56 has a couple of benefits. 1 it’s 500watt compared to 350w which helps the range, And 2 it has 3 different down and side imaging frequencies. All these choices of frequencies allow you to pick one that is best suited for what you are trying to do and the water you are in. For example (and this is going to be hypocritical) say you have a gt56 transducer and you are in say 60’ of water and are trying to scan in 1000khz because you want good detail.. but it’s just not providing good returns because the water is too deep for that specific frequency. You could then switch to 800khz that would penetrate the deeper water and still provide decent detail. I hope that helps and I will be making a video in the future that will better describe when and where to use all the frequencies etc Thank you for watching !
@@MGMarineTech hello what head unit did you use? Does it have noticable worst results if i run with echomap uhd93sv it have a screen resolution 800x400..
Bass pro has put a 12 inch garmin echo on sale for 1600 so im thinking of buying it,in ad it says no balck box needed??Does that mean i dont need pan optix for forward facing sonor which is what im looking for,,i have a 9 inch lowrance hook tripleshot that does great job but no forward facing sonor,,,
@@MGMarineTech Reading the info on the finder makes it look like no panoptix black box is needed to view forward facing sonar?Am i to understand that only units withlvs12 transducer will have forward facing sonar,,my goal is to have forward facing sonor,,what do you have in stock,,dont need maps etc,,would like a newer updated version,,i was told the garmin livescopes marked down to 999 are the original ones form many years ago,,as you can see im totally confused ,,want to buy asap but dont want to buy wrong item and not have forward facing sonor,,being able to scan in front of boat would save alot of time wasted fishing areas that arent holding fish,,i live on santee cooper lakes and with all the new boaters/fishermen we need something to find fish in and around brush piles and structre in open water where most dont fish
@@charliesmith9528 I have it all in stock. The lvs12 is a “dumbed” down version of the lvs32 which is what is 999. Both of which are discontinued units. If you want email me at mgmarinetech@gmail.com and we can get you setup with everything you need to get started
Do you think you'll have any live shots before Black Friday? I'm probably going to buy one or the other. I know the 54 will be on sale for a few hundred less than the 56 though.
That is kind of a complicated question.. The short answer is no. The gt54 is not compatible with the “plus” units. And will not operate the transducer to its full potential which will basically revert back to a gt52. However… some have done it and said there was a slight gain in performance. (I have not seen any back to back pictures or pictures at all to prove this) Long story short.. if you already have a functioning gt52 don’t waste the money.
@@MGMarineTech appreciate the quick response and you somewhat answered it in the video as well I realized. Got the 93sv plus last year thinking it was the uhd.. now figuring out what to do with it and if I should run it or upgrade to 54 or 56 unit and transducer. I still want at least one more units so I have two on the boat.
@@uploadtime1780 the plus unit is not a total loss! I personally run 2 on my boat and they are networked with a ultra 126, livescope,gt56, and a gt54. If you purchase a “UHD” unit you can network it with the plus and then share the gt54/56 transducer to the plus unit. More details on that can be found in my networking video.
Hi thanks for the video..... gt56 has 500w power only for si e di....for the chirp has 350 w, the same of gt 54.... the chirp range is the same 150-250, it change for si , i think little bit worste than gt54, but better for di..... this is what i ve intended comparing the specifics from the website. it s interesting to see how it's work on the water..... since now any comparison on the web.... do you think that it's good to abbine with the new gpsmap 923xsv ?
Your videos are great. I am getting ready to order a boat. They will put a GPSMAP 943xsv in the center console, can't go any bigger. I want to put a larger devices on the bow and was thinking a GPSMAP 10x2. Install Panoptix on the trolling motor and use a GT56UHD on the transom. Tie it altogether with a Garmin GMS10 network switch. Wiring wise the GT56 goes into the 943xsv, Pantoptix transducer into its own box. Then network the 2 chartplotters and the Pantoptix to the GMS10. At that point I understand I can run either transducer on either chartplotter at the same time. Am I over complicating it by adding the GMS10? Should I just plug 1 transducer into each chartplotter? And still get my ability to see either transducers on both chartplottes at the same time? Thanks
Hey Paul, thank you! So to see other transducers that are connected to other units they will have to be networked. If only you have a 943xsv, a 10x2, and livescope, then you won’t need a gms10. The reason being that the 10x2 has 2 network ports. You plug the 943 into one and the livescope into the other. Then all 3 devices will be networked and sharing waypoint, maps, and transducers including livescope. Hope that helps
The gt51 is designed for deep water. It has a much lower kHz side and down imaging as well as higher power to be able to penetrate deep water columns. I’ve not used one as I have no need but they seem to be the go to transducer for off shore fishing. The picture they return isn’t the clearest from what I’ve seen, but that is to be expected in the depths this transducer was designed for.
@@nighthunter8596 I don’t know that any transducer would be able to pick up a jig in those depths. The area you would be scanning is huge at those depths and the jig would be so small that it most likely wouldn’t show up? I could be wrong about this just my thoughts. Now fish on the other hand might show up if they are in schools etc.
Thanks for this comparison. I chatted with Garmin asking why the G54 combo isn’t available on Garmin website. He told me that combo is no longer available and they are now doing the combo with the Gt56. He also said the 56 is better at death but the 54 is clearer. Kind of vague but he works for Garmin. I think the GT54 for the $450 I got it for isn’t worth spending $850 for the new GT56 combo. Would like your opinion on that. I also subscribed to your channel now that I’m a Garmin man.
I don’t have first hand experience with the gt56 yet. I should have a new video comparing the two side by side over the same structure as soon as I can get my hands on it. From what I am seeing, the gt56 has a much better range especially out to the side of the boat. My gt54 starts to fall off around 60-70’ to the side where I’m seeing pics of the gt56 with bright clean returns out to 100+ feet. I personally don’t think the gt56 transducer is designed specifically around deep water but that it has more frequencies options than the gt54 which allows it to operate in deeper water better. If that makes sense. I hope that helps and thank you for subscribing!
You have to manually select which frequency you want to use. When your side imaging is full screen hit the menu button and you should see the option to select a frequency. Gt54 will have 455khz or 1120 kHz. The rule of thumb here is the higher the kHz the more detailed the image will be, BUT the less range you will have. This is where the gt56 is suppose to shine. They are saying 20% more range in 1000khz mode. But you also have the option of 455 and 800, so the transducer is very flexible and allows for a lot of adjustment on the water. I plan to do a video on how to setup your unit depending on what you are trying to do as well as the take into account the type of water you are in.
Wanted to say thanks. You helped me understand the Garmin network and these transducers today. New follower. Happy New Year.
Awesome channel. Glad I found it. Keep churning out content.
Hallo, thank you very much for the compaison. I´m looking forward to your experience on the water. All the best from Hamburg/ Germany
You are very welcome! I hope to be able to provide that soon!
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@@larryshepard8556 Sorry its not my Musik. ACDC is my way :-)))
Thanks for all the information great video 👍
Thank you,
Informative video and all the ones that work with it.
Thank you for the info. Great simple video
You are welcome! Thank you for the support and feedback.
Nice video, it is nice to have extra power in the 56.
Great Video
Thanks ☺️😊
Do they make an extension for the 54?
Great video 🤘
exactly what i was looking for. great vid. thank you. cant wait to see the comparison.
Thank you! I should have one soon!!
Dear friend, I asked this question to your competitors, but what is being done so that the Active Target kit shows at least the same as Garmin's Panoptix Livescope? , and what are you doing to make your product show fish in troubled waters?
Great Video
I am getting a 1243 xsv. Fishing coastal 250 feet or less in the ocean. Would I be better off with the 52, 54, or 56? I won’t want to spend extra if I don’t need it. Thanks!
Great Video Content Capt!!! Question: Does the GT54 work with the Echomap Plus 93SV Unit? I know it will with the Echomap UHD 93SV.
Thank you!
The gt54 is not fully compatible with the plus units.
Now if you have the 54 plugged into a uhd unit and the uhd unit networked to a plus unit, the plus will see the 54
Thanks for responding sir.@@MGMarineTech
Very informative . Does the same transducer 10' extender cable work with the 56 and that 54 ? 12 pin or 8 pin ?
Both of those transducers are 12 pin
You lost me at eeee-co map hahah how do you say echo ? 😂 nice review dude just playing around 🤙🏻
Lol I don’t know why my mind sees it as eco and not echo lol
I'm looking at the 56 but what can I expect in 250' of water just traditional sonar? looking for either the 74 or 94 depending on what will fit in the space I have
Yeah you will pretty much be limited to 2d at those depths.
The 56 might do down imaging and some side imaging at those depths.
Take a look at MGMARINETECH.com I have those units in stock
Hi, excellent video. I have an old 72sv with CV52HW-TM , do you think it’s worth upgrading to the new echomap uhd with the GT56UHD-TM ?
Absolutely!! You will be getting two huge upgrades. A MUCH better transducer that has a dedicated down image element (the cv 52 uses the side imaging elements to make the down image)
And a much bigger screen which really helps with the detail in the side imaging.
If you want a step up from that look into the echomap ultra units, they have 3x the pixels for a amazing side image picture.
Nice video. I have a 73sv on my bow. I just got a great deal on a 93sv both are Echo Map units. Can I remove the 73 and add the 93 without changing the wires harnessing? or are the wires dedicated to each unit?
Yes you can use the same wiring. Might have to swap the fuses.
You will however have to change the cradles.
@@MGMarineTech Thanks info. Really appreciate your videos. Good work! Oh yah have the 93sv complete with all it's goodies.
Hi thanks for the video. I am new to fishing and have a 4 inch lowrance without gps or sideview or anything. I have seen the Garmin UHD 93sv for $650 with GT54 transducer. I fish in the lakes around Raleigh NC, mostly fishing shallow at the moment. You mentioned that the great thing about the GT56 is its flexibility with all the different frequencies (KHZ). Can you please explain what that means? Does a newbie need that? Thanks!
Absolutely!!
So I think the easiest way to describe it would be that each kHz setting has its pros and cons.
The higher the kHz the more detail you will get in the image on the screen. But that comes at a cost. Higher kHz frequencies can’t travel as far in the water so the range (out to the sides of the boat and underneath) is limited.
The gt54 only had two options for side imaging. 455 and 1120. 455 you can scan 200+ feet off to the side or in deeper water (45’+) but the image wouldn’t have much detail. Now if it was ran in. 1120 kHz it would have great detail but a very limited range (I typically saw that the range was limited to about 50-60’ off to the side after that the image would get dark quickly. and water that was 35-45’ deep depending on bottom structure)
So as a rule of thumb you would use lower frequencies to scan wide areas to find structure you are looking for and then get closer to them and switch to higher frequencies to get detail and see if that structure you found Is holding fish etc.
Now the gt56 has a couple of benefits. 1 it’s 500watt compared to 350w which helps the range, And 2 it has 3 different down and side imaging frequencies. All these choices of frequencies allow you to pick one that is best suited for what you are trying to do and the water you are in.
For example (and this is going to be hypocritical) say you have a gt56 transducer and you are in say 60’ of water and are trying to scan in 1000khz because you want good detail.. but it’s just not providing good returns because the water is too deep for that specific frequency. You could then switch to 800khz that would penetrate the deeper water and still provide decent detail.
I hope that helps and I will be making a video in the future that will better describe when and where to use all the frequencies etc
Thank you for watching !
@@MGMarineTech hello what head unit did you use? Does it have noticable worst results if i run with echomap uhd93sv it have a screen resolution 800x400..
@@quattro4x463 for side imaging I use a 126 ultra.
One of the key benefits of a ultra is more than 3x the resolution of the 93’s
When upgrading the GT54 to the GT56 is it plug and play or do you have to do a software upgrade?
If your unit is older, then it will most likely need to be updated
Bass pro has put a 12 inch garmin echo on sale for 1600 so im thinking of buying it,in ad it says no balck box needed??Does that mean i dont need pan optix for forward facing sonor which is what im looking for,,i have a 9 inch lowrance hook tripleshot that does great job but no forward facing sonor,,,
That’s ONLY for the lvs-12 transducer.
Im a authorized garmin dealer as well
@@MGMarineTech Reading the info on the finder makes it look like no panoptix black box is needed to view forward facing sonar?Am i to understand that only units withlvs12 transducer will have forward facing sonar,,my goal is to have forward facing sonor,,what do you have in stock,,dont need maps etc,,would like a newer updated version,,i was told the garmin livescopes marked down to 999 are the original ones form many years ago,,as you can see im totally confused ,,want to buy asap but dont want to buy wrong item and not have forward facing sonor,,being able to scan in front of boat would save alot of time wasted fishing areas that arent holding fish,,i live on santee cooper lakes and with all the new boaters/fishermen we need something to find fish in and around brush piles and structre in open water where most dont fish
@@charliesmith9528 I have it all in stock.
The lvs12 is a “dumbed” down version of the lvs32 which is what is 999. Both of which are discontinued units.
If you want email me at mgmarinetech@gmail.com and we can get you setup with everything you need to get started
Do you think you'll have any live shots before Black Friday? I'm probably going to buy one or the other. I know the 54 will be on sale for a few hundred less than the 56 though.
I’ve been told I should have a gt56 here in about a week and a half.
As soon as I get it I’ll be doing some video for you guys.
Thanks for commenting
I’m having a hard time justifying the price difference, any suggestions?
Spend the extra money on a better screen and buy the gt56 later :)
Shoot me a message for pricing !
@@MGMarineTech I just PMd you on your FB page
If I have a 93sv plus with GT52, can I use a gt54 transducer and realize any improvements?
That is kind of a complicated question..
The short answer is no. The gt54 is not compatible with the “plus” units. And will not operate the transducer to its full potential which will basically revert back to a gt52.
However… some have done it and said there was a slight gain in performance. (I have not seen any back to back pictures or pictures at all to prove this)
Long story short.. if you already have a functioning gt52 don’t waste the money.
@@MGMarineTech appreciate the quick response and you somewhat answered it in the video as well I realized.
Got the 93sv plus last year thinking it was the uhd.. now figuring out what to do with it and if I should run it or upgrade to 54 or 56 unit and transducer. I still want at least one more units so I have two on the boat.
@@uploadtime1780 the plus unit is not a total loss! I personally run 2 on my boat and they are networked with a ultra 126, livescope,gt56, and a gt54.
If you purchase a “UHD” unit you can network it with the plus and then share the gt54/56 transducer to the plus unit. More details on that can be found in my networking video.
@@MGMarineTech thanks I'll be watching that next. I just subscribed.as well thanks for the help!
Are both compatible with the garmin striker vivid sv7?
Unfortunately I don’t believe they are compatible
A little
Confused on compatibility
7-9” echomap UHD -UHD2
10-12” echomap ultra -ultra2
Gpsmap
943xsv-1243xsv
8610xsv-8616xsv
Hi thanks for the video..... gt56 has 500w power only for si e di....for the chirp has 350 w, the same of gt 54.... the chirp range is the same 150-250, it change for si , i think little bit worste than gt54, but better for di..... this is what i ve intended comparing the specifics from the website. it s interesting to see how it's work on the water..... since now any comparison on the web.... do you think that it's good to abbine with the new gpsmap 923xsv ?
Your videos are great. I am getting ready to order a boat. They will put a GPSMAP 943xsv in the center console, can't go any bigger. I want to put a larger devices on the bow and was thinking a GPSMAP 10x2. Install Panoptix on the trolling motor and use a GT56UHD on the transom. Tie it altogether with a Garmin GMS10 network switch. Wiring wise the GT56 goes into the 943xsv, Pantoptix transducer into its own box. Then network the 2 chartplotters and the Pantoptix to the GMS10. At that point I understand I can run either transducer on either chartplotter at the same time. Am I over complicating it by adding the GMS10? Should I just plug 1 transducer into each chartplotter? And still get my ability to see either transducers on both chartplottes at the same time?
Thanks
Hey Paul, thank you!
So to see other transducers that are connected to other units they will have to be networked.
If only you have a 943xsv, a 10x2, and livescope, then you won’t need a gms10. The reason being that the 10x2 has 2 network ports. You plug the 943 into one and the livescope into the other.
Then all 3 devices will be networked and sharing waypoint, maps, and transducers including livescope.
Hope that helps
How u raze the gt51m vs these two?
The gt51 is designed for deep water. It has a much lower kHz side and down imaging as well as higher power to be able to penetrate deep water columns. I’ve not used one as I have no need but they seem to be the go to transducer for off shore fishing. The picture they return isn’t the clearest from what I’ve seen, but that is to be expected in the depths this transducer was designed for.
@@MGMarineTech looking at a echomap 92sv uhd and gt 51 m for jigging in 200-300ft of water
@@nighthunter8596 I don’t know that any transducer would be able to pick up a jig in those depths.
The area you would be scanning is huge at those depths and the jig would be so small that it most likely wouldn’t show up? I could be wrong about this just my thoughts. Now fish on the other hand might show up if they are in schools etc.
i have a 93 uhd at 1120 sv i get terrible image return is that common
Not at all. I’ve gotten great returns out of my gt54 as you can see in my other videos.
There are a lot of variables that go into getting a good return. Things like depth and bottom structure are very important.
@@MGMarineTech my 455 sv is good but 1120 is extremely dark with zero clarity .is it possible i'm starving for power
How deep are you fishing?
What range is it set for ?
If it’s too deep, it will be dark.
Same thing with the range.
Also your voltage should be above 12.4~ for best picture
Why the horrible background music??? Thanks for content!
Dear friend, does he have a Russian language and does he support updates in Russia?
Thanks for this comparison. I chatted with Garmin asking why the G54 combo isn’t available on Garmin website. He told me that combo is no longer available and they are now doing the combo with the Gt56. He also said the 56 is better at death but the 54 is clearer. Kind of vague but he works for Garmin. I think the GT54 for the $450 I got it for isn’t worth spending $850 for the new GT56 combo. Would like your opinion on that. I also subscribed to your channel now that I’m a Garmin man.
I don’t have first hand experience with the gt56 yet. I should have a new video comparing the two side by side over the same structure as soon as I can get my hands on it.
From what I am seeing, the gt56 has a much better range especially out to the side of the boat. My gt54 starts to fall off around 60-70’ to the side where I’m seeing pics of the gt56 with bright clean returns out to 100+ feet.
I personally don’t think the gt56 transducer is designed specifically around deep water but that it has more frequencies options than the gt54 which allows it to operate in deeper water better. If that makes sense.
I hope that helps and thank you for subscribing!
@@MGMarineTech Do the frequencies change themselves or do you select what frequency to use?
You have to manually select which frequency you want to use.
When your side imaging is full screen hit the menu button and you should see the option to select a frequency. Gt54 will have 455khz or 1120 kHz.
The rule of thumb here is the higher the kHz the more detailed the image will be, BUT the less range you will have.
This is where the gt56 is suppose to shine. They are saying 20% more range in 1000khz mode.
But you also have the option of 455 and 800, so the transducer is very flexible and allows for a lot of adjustment on the water.
I plan to do a video on how to setup your unit depending on what you are trying to do as well as the take into account the type of water you are in.
@@MGMarineTech Great look forward to that!👍🏽
At this point can’t see paying $400 more for the GT 56
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