I really wish sigma would make a full frame version of this lens, even if it wasn't f/1.8, it would be a great value for people who want a great alternative to the more expensive native wide angle zooms. Great review, and great footage!
i'm surprised nobody mentioned the Tamron 35-150, f2-2.8... it's f2 up through 85mm, which is amazing, obv the fastest FF zoom that isn't that old discontinued 24-35f2... folks just not into Sony? top of the game rn!
Fantastic video - finally managed to find someone with both an R6 and the sigma 18-35 to see how it fared vs other lenses as I was looking to purchase this. Loved Kodak too, great job!
That made my day. Currently im using gh5 but i need R6 autofocus full frame. And i got sigma 18-35. 24-70 costs around 2k $ so i have to wait for IT. Thanks you very much for this video then ;D
2:47 Ah, I was hoping you would illustrate how much coverage the lens has outside the s35 crop. Do you know? Surely, it covers more than 1.6x, but how much more?
Great video. There are not many videos about the R6 crop mode. I recently used it indoors and found it much noisier than the full frame mode, even with the RF 24-70. I was surprised because I've made some tests before and the footage was great, but it was outside. When I used the crop mode indoors it gave me noticeably more noise. But, I still like this mode, it may be useful also for long time recordings as the R6 doesn't overheat in 4k crop mode (at least not so quickly)
Thanks! Yeah I do notice noise is more present in the shadow areas when shooting in crop mode. Outdoors with limited shadows you could barely see any. Still if you able to shoot at 800 or 1600 iso the noise should be manageable.
so on the sofa test the highlights were more blown and the shadows brighter. thats not dynamic range.. that is a different exposure. so maybe the lense have a different T stop or the sensor has a different sensitivity.
Actually you are not cramming more pixels are you when you go crop mode? You just need the middle 8mp of the sensor even for 4k crop. Each pixel stays intact. Perhaps noise should not increase that much?
As Canon R50 and Sigma 18-35mm owner, what do you think is a better investment: Canon R8 or R7? Shooting concerts and street mostly, but leaning towards all-purpose camera.
I used the canon EF to RF adapter. The Sigma APSC lenses still use the same EF mount as full frame Sigma and Canon lenses but the optics are conducive to APSC sensors.
great video, thanx! what's about stabilisation? it does works R6 IBIS with non-stabilised Sigma 18-35? I have RF 24-105 f4 and I'nt choose between this lenses for handhandled simple shots.
Thanks! In terms of stabilization, IBIS remains on, but can’t be turned off like with other third party lenses. Stabilization works pretty good over all but probably not as good as an RF lens with optical stabilization like the 24-105
Didn’t use it in high frame rate when I owned the lens cause I did t shoot in 60fps or 120fps, but I believe in 1080p mode you can shoot high frame rate on crop mode
this is what i was really looking for! thank you for the great video and actually im also curious about, if the full frame 4k image of r6 and cropped 4k image of r6 identical in terms of image sharpness, what do you think? :)
Awesome! Glad you found the video helpful! I actually don’t shoot much 4K. I tend to upscale my footage to 4K in post, so I can’t give you a well tested answer. From brief observation the 4K in crop mode still looks great. Definitely useable. Low light is still pretty good, but it will always be better in full frame than in crop mode.
Great video man! May I ask that in order for you to fully utilise this lens on the Canon R6, you will have to enable the crop mode right? If yes, are there any loss in the image quality for video and photography? Thanks!
Thanks man! I haven’t taken it out of crop mode with the lens on, but if I had to guess if you did you’d probably get some major vignetting on the wider focal lengths, but might be usable around 30-35mm. Honestly the image look great even in crop mode. Just can’t crop in too much
Sorry to hear that. I haven’t had any overheating issues in 1080p in any frame rate both in full frame and crop mode. Might need to call Canon about that
Gotcha! I don’t have an RP, so I’m not sure how to help. I’m surprised it doesn’t give you the option to shoot 1080p, it might be a limitation of the camera processor.
You shot on a 1.8 and a 2.8 Lens and did not adjust the ISO and F stop accordingly ..so the images had to be brighter on the 1.8 plus the lens cannot change the color of the Image..That came from ..you... when you run a test like this one next time you have to put in consideration the ISO and F stop so that your exposure is balanced ..Otherwise the lens can not be responsible for your failure..
Lenses do impact color replication in your images. It comes down to coatings on the lens optics, the number of optic elements and how they refract light into the sensor which then translates that light information. I know there are more elements in the 24-70, but the coatings I am unsure. Next, I shot the 24-70 wide open at 2.8 at ISO 800 and I shot the 18-35 at f2.8 at the same ISO. I should have clarified that info in the video. That’s my fault. Lenses do also impact the contrast of light in your image which can explain why shadows may appear brighter on one lens and darker on another. The exposure and settings are the same though. I made sure of that when filming. Lastly, and this is a courtesy thing. You can give feedback without being passive aggressive. I enjoy conversing with other creatives and I appreciate receiving feedback, but when people try to degrade others, me or anyone, that’s where I draw a line.
@@EricMaloneyFilmmaker i am a film maker for now 18 years...i appreciate your response..my only problem is i think that lens deserves more credit..since i have used it with no problems since april 2013 when it first came out..i have never run into color issues....you are a great PROFFESIONAL camera man but ..the analysis needed more info like ISO,,F STOPS...Lightng...exposure...ETC...just my take i might be wrong too..i think THIS LENS IS ONE OF SIGMAS GREATEST INVENTIONS...i dont work for sigma.....WE ARE ALL LEARNING EVERYDAY..I GUESS.
Thanks man! We definitely are all learning everyday. Didn’t mean to disrespect your experience in any way. I hope you know that. The 18-35 at great lens! I love it a lot. To be honest the color differences really did catch me off guard lol. Could be my lens, but that’s just what I picked up from my tests. I do agree I definitely could have been more clear in my tests on my process/settings, but I’m still figuring out this content creation world here on RUclips.
@@EricMaloneyFilmmaker No worries bro..alot of people out there depend on some of there postings,,,,but i just caught a glimpse of yours and trust me i am subscribing...lol
I use mine with a Meta bones speed-booster with Enhanced IBS. The crop gives me NO Vignette from 18-35mm in 4K CLog. No quality issues. (Standard IBS = Slight Vignette 18-22mm)
I really wish sigma would make a full frame version of this lens, even if it wasn't f/1.8, it would be a great value for people who want a great alternative to the more expensive native wide angle zooms. Great review, and great footage!
Thanks Rocco! That lens would be a dream come true if they made it! It would be perfect for landscape, Astrophoto and vlogging!
They do make one. It’s the 24-35 F2.
@@KaganTech It's not even close to what 18-35mm gives you on aps-c.
Trying to go ff but I can’t leave my sigmas behind and the adaptors horror stories scares me .
i'm surprised nobody mentioned the Tamron 35-150, f2-2.8... it's f2 up through 85mm, which is amazing, obv the fastest FF zoom that isn't that old discontinued 24-35f2... folks just not into Sony? top of the game rn!
Fantastic video - finally managed to find someone with both an R6 and the sigma 18-35 to see how it fared vs other lenses as I was looking to purchase this. Loved Kodak too, great job!
Thanks so much! I’m glad you found some value out of them!
That made my day. Currently im using gh5 but i need R6 autofocus full frame. And i got sigma 18-35. 24-70 costs around 2k $ so i have to wait for IT. Thanks you very much for this video then ;D
2:47 Ah, I was hoping you would illustrate how much coverage the lens has outside the s35 crop. Do you know? Surely, it covers more than 1.6x, but how much more?
Great video. There are not many videos about the R6 crop mode. I recently used it indoors and found it much noisier than the full frame mode, even with the RF 24-70. I was surprised because I've made some tests before and the footage was great, but it was outside. When I used the crop mode indoors it gave me noticeably more noise. But, I still like this mode, it may be useful also for long time recordings as the R6 doesn't overheat in 4k crop mode (at least not so quickly)
Thanks! Yeah I do notice noise is more present in the shadow areas when shooting in crop mode. Outdoors with limited shadows you could barely see any. Still if you able to shoot at 800 or 1600 iso the noise should be manageable.
so on the sofa test the highlights were more blown and the shadows brighter. thats not dynamic range.. that is a different exposure. so maybe the lense have a different T stop or the sensor has a different sensitivity.
Actually you are not cramming more pixels are you when you go crop mode?
You just need the middle 8mp of the sensor even for 4k crop. Each pixel stays intact. Perhaps noise should not increase that much?
Thank you for this test! I love my Sigma 18-35 on my 90D. Subscribed.
Thank you so much! The 18-35 is just a special kind of lens!
As Canon R50 and Sigma 18-35mm owner, what do you think is a better investment: Canon R8 or R7? Shooting concerts and street mostly, but leaning towards all-purpose camera.
Very interesting test, I am about to buy both but I might reconsider some things. Thank you!
"Dyanmic Range" typo
I am confused is this a video for the regular Sigma 18 - 35mm or The Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 DC HSM ART lens?
Great video man! I do own both R6 and 18-35, and you answered a lot of questions I had!
Thank you so much! Glad you found it useful!
You didn't mention how you adapted the lens to a full frame camera since the lens itself is apsc 🤔🤔
I used the canon EF to RF adapter. The Sigma APSC lenses still use the same EF mount as full frame Sigma and Canon lenses but the optics are conducive to APSC sensors.
Do you need an adapter or does it just fit on with out an adapter? Thanks.
You need the rf to ef adapter to add this lens to the R6
Nice video that was very informative. Thank you for posting it.
No problem! Glad you found it helpful!
great video, thanx! what's about stabilisation? it does works R6 IBIS with non-stabilised Sigma 18-35? I have RF 24-105 f4 and I'nt choose between this lenses for handhandled simple shots.
Thanks! In terms of stabilization, IBIS remains on, but can’t be turned off like with other third party lenses. Stabilization works pretty good over all but probably not as good as an RF lens with optical stabilization like the 24-105
Good morning, partner, a question, does the Sigma 18 - 35 1.8 work with the R6, does the high frame rate?
Didn’t use it in high frame rate when I owned the lens cause I did t shoot in 60fps or 120fps, but I believe in 1080p mode you can shoot high frame rate on crop mode
It works with a sigma 18-35 1.8 crop lens (had EF mount not EF-S but the lens work as EF-S lens) with on a full frame canon camera like Canon RP,R6?
why use crop mode and not just crop in post?
Great video!
Thanks!
crop mode uses less of the sensor, there will be a loss in quality overall.
this is what i was really looking for! thank you for the great video and actually im also curious about, if the full frame 4k image of r6 and cropped 4k image of r6 identical in terms of image sharpness, what do you think? :)
Awesome! Glad you found the video helpful! I actually don’t shoot much 4K. I tend to upscale my footage to 4K in post, so I can’t give you a well tested answer. From brief observation the 4K in crop mode still looks great. Definitely useable. Low light is still pretty good, but it will always be better in full frame than in crop mode.
Great videos, can i use 1080p on canon r50 camera. Is there any barrelling effects
Thanks! On a crop sensor the barrel distortion should be minimal at the wider end
thank you!
Can you use slow motion while using the APSC lens? Like 60FPS or 120?
You can use 60fps both in HD and 4K. 120fps is not available in crop mode.
@@EricMaloneyFilmmaker perfect thanks for letting me know!
Great video man! May I ask that in order for you to fully utilise this lens on the Canon R6, you will have to enable the crop mode right? If yes, are there any loss in the image quality for video and photography? Thanks!
Thanks man! I haven’t taken it out of crop mode with the lens on, but if I had to guess if you did you’d probably get some major vignetting on the wider focal lengths, but might be usable around 30-35mm. Honestly the image look great even in crop mode. Just can’t crop in too much
A have issues with this combo. My r6 overheats when I use crop mode in 1080p 50. Had you the same issue?
Sorry to hear that. I haven’t had any overheating issues in 1080p in any frame rate both in full frame and crop mode. Might need to call Canon about that
@@EricMaloneyFilmmaker thank Eric
How much of the sensor does it cover without the crop mode?
Sorry it’s been a while for me to respond, 28mm and beyond doesn’t have vignetting due to sensor coverage on full frame mode
Hello, I have the RP with a sigma 18-35mm, but it only allows me to record in 4k 24 frames, and 1280x720, how could I record in 1080p, please help me
Gotcha! I don’t have an RP, so I’m not sure how to help. I’m surprised it doesn’t give you the option to shoot 1080p, it might be a limitation of the camera processor.
You shot on a 1.8 and a 2.8 Lens and did not adjust the ISO and F stop accordingly ..so the images had to be brighter on the 1.8 plus the lens cannot change the color of the Image..That came from ..you... when you run a test like this one next time you have to put in consideration the ISO and F stop so that your exposure is balanced ..Otherwise the lens can not be responsible for your failure..
Lenses do impact color replication in your images. It comes down to coatings on the lens optics, the number of optic elements and how they refract light into the sensor which then translates that light information. I know there are more elements in the 24-70, but the coatings I am unsure. Next, I shot the 24-70 wide open at 2.8 at ISO 800 and I shot the 18-35 at f2.8 at the same ISO. I should have clarified that info in the video. That’s my fault. Lenses do also impact the contrast of light in your image which can explain why shadows may appear brighter on one lens and darker on another. The exposure and settings are the same though. I made sure of that when filming.
Lastly, and this is a courtesy thing. You can give feedback without being passive aggressive. I enjoy conversing with other creatives and I appreciate receiving feedback, but when people try to degrade others, me or anyone, that’s where I draw a line.
@@EricMaloneyFilmmaker i am a film maker for now 18 years...i appreciate your response..my only problem is i think that lens deserves more credit..since i have used it with no problems since april 2013 when it first came out..i have never run into color issues....you are a great PROFFESIONAL camera man but ..the analysis needed more info like ISO,,F STOPS...Lightng...exposure...ETC...just my take i might be wrong too..i think THIS LENS IS ONE OF SIGMAS GREATEST INVENTIONS...i dont work for sigma.....WE ARE ALL LEARNING EVERYDAY..I GUESS.
Thanks man! We definitely are all learning everyday. Didn’t mean to disrespect your experience in any way. I hope you know that. The 18-35 at great lens! I love it a lot. To be honest the color differences really did catch me off guard lol. Could be my lens, but that’s just what I picked up from my tests. I do agree I definitely could have been more clear in my tests on my process/settings, but I’m still figuring out this content creation world here on RUclips.
@@EricMaloneyFilmmaker No worries bro..alot of people out there depend on some of there postings,,,,but i just caught a glimpse of yours and trust me i am subscribing...lol
I appreciate that man! Thanks! Are you posting videos on your channel? I’d love to see some of your work.
I use mine with a Meta bones speed-booster with Enhanced IBS. The crop gives me NO Vignette from 18-35mm in 4K CLog. No quality issues.
(Standard IBS = Slight Vignette 18-22mm)
Awesome! Thanks for the tip! I’m sure the speed booster also helps with low light as well right?
@@EricMaloneyFilmmaker Yes, makes the lens a 1.2f
That’s pretty sweet!
Can you link it?
FYI: Just updated my lens. No vignette in HD with no IBS. The firmware allows the camera to read/adjust as an APC-S Lens.😎
Hello great video! How come I can’t record 120 FPS on my R6 with this lens?
Thanks! I’m not sure actually… might be the processor can’t handle 120 in Crop mode. That’s my best guess. I don’t use 120 that often
Why show a pancake lens
does it work on 1080p mode? the crop?
Yup! I shot all this footage in 1080p and upscaled to 4K. Cropped 1080 still looks great!
@@EricMaloneyFilmmaker great! that means i can crop lenses on the r6 and still shoot 1080p video, cuz my rp only gives me 4k or 720p
@@EricMaloneyFilmmaker does 60fps and 1080 works with r6?
typo at 03:49
Eh! To late to change it now lol
@@EricMaloneyFilmmakerhow did you focus yourself? When you filmed the movie