Spin, Stands, & Saints - What Counts As A Stand Pt. 2
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2021
- Showing the connections between the various supernatural elements of Jojo, now covering Parts 7 and 8.
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Hamon Beat is doing everything in his power to get a PhD in JoJo
I think hes already got one and is teaching us
Wdym he has one already
Professor Beat
He does tho?
Dr.Hamon Beat PhD in jojology
Other anime: MC gets possessed by demons to upgrade his power
JoJo: JEEEEESSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSS
Jeeesus taaaaaake the wheeeeeeel
The seven deadly suns:MC IS the demon
@@SoMSoMreal"our God is an awesome God"
Sus
Every JoJo: DON'T FUCK WITH ME
I HAVE THE POWER OF *GOD* AND ANIME IN MY SIDE
ORAAAA
"Spin, Stands & Saints" sounds like a title of a movie about crime and justice
FUND IT
Jojo's bizarre adventure: Noir
Spin: manipulation of news media
Stands: public soap boxes
Saints: criminals/justice
So, a movie about corrupt politicians manipulating media to win an election?
@@iiiivvvv9986 wait, there's public soap boxes? I've been using private only.
cheese
Describing the lore of part 7 really makes it sound like the conspiracy theory of some radical Christian cowboy cult
Actually it would be mormans, not christian, the mormans believe Jesus went west and lived with the native Americans.
@@tombolt13thexehanort29 No they did not!!!!!
Tell me more please
@@laxelford3533 that is just a core aspect of mormans, mormans are wild. After jesus' resurrection, the mormans believe that jesus went to preach the word of god in America, there's really not much else to that part (though I'm not morman, so my knowledge of the intricacies of the religion is small). They also believed in polygamy (their founder had 12 wives and brigum young had 20) but were forced to change that doctrine so that utah could become a state.
@@tombolt13thexehanort29 all I know about it is i share a name with Brigham lol
@@laxelford3533 I'm not an expert mormon theologian, but if I remember correctly they also claim that heaven is in space (essentially God is an alien) and you go there when you die, though as I said, take that with a grain of salt as I am not the best versed on mormon theology (i could be misinterpreting some verse). Ask a Mormon or just look it up, though personall, I wouldn't pry too far into it. This is where I will stop.
Hamon Beat will reach a mastery of explaining jojo lore and theories to the point of unlocking a stand ability from that mastery of a craft.
STAND USER: HAMON BEAT
STAND NAME: STARDUST MAN
The idea of dinosaur having connection with the rock humans is so cool
I've a theory that the dinosaurs seen in p7 were in fact a kind of rock animal. This would explain why the the ability to turn others into dinosaurs may also turn them into fossils, as rock humans similarly enter a fossil-like state.
Depending on how far you want to read into this, this can work thematically with how Jesus is prominent. If the dinosaurs were all rock animals then the existing fossils of them wouldn't need to be millions of years old in order to be stone, allowing Young-Earth to be possible in this scenario.
Remember when a meteor was the cause of stands? What was it that killed the dinosaurs?
@@pickyphysicsstudent201 That’s a different universe tho
@@Xenunnaki damn that young earth theory is fucking nut
@@Nick_The_Greek21 no it isn't, we saw the stone mask in part 8. it still is true, silicon based life is the cause and the meteor brought it
So, if Jolyne had learned the Spin, she could spin her lines to create a spin ball?
Probably
*bubble
@@HonerableG B A L L
probably, although that is another universe, who knows if spins even a thing
If she had been able to survive the reset, yes
when he said the similarities between
the corpse and calamity, equivalent exchange, golden rectangle
my mind is low-key blown
yeah i also think these wall eyes are created because of corpse or johnny's own ability.
Same
@@HerMi.T yeah it's definitely the corpse
Mine was the effects after a saint's and sinner's death (miracles and curses)
araki really did think thru it
Ball breaker being SBR's hermit purple actually makes a ton of sense
This is beyond impressive. Parts 7 and 8 are comparatively new and people definitely get thrown for a loop, but you did a good job of connecting the elements that explain the new universe.
Jesus had the ability to summon a small white mouse wherever it is needed
I feel like this is a reference to something, but I can't remember what
@@literallygrass1328 me neither... geez
@@literallygrass1328 I belive it's referencing Danny, Johnny's mouse in the manga- it's very well traveled for a rat (if it's actually the same rat that is), considering that it somehow got from Danville, Kentucky to wherever Johnny and Gyro crossed the Mississippi
@@JohnJohnson-jr6hp i hate to break it to you but Danny was in britan
@@JohnJohnson-jr6hp
Johnny left Danny when he was still in the UK, which means Danny is in the UK
Damn, imagine if vehicles could be used to harness the golden rotation, and JoJolion, taking place in "present day" was written with a subplot where Gappy is also an exceptional driver akin to Baby Driver, and Gappy + Rai spend more time fuckin around in Jobin's Lambo.
I'm not really into /o/ but just imagining aesthetic drawings of all the characters leaning on different cars or motorcycles (as they kinda do already) just screams kino to me. Great vid btw.
But man made objects can't contain the perfect shape, only imitate it, it can only be found in nature.
@@liquidalumina7141 Well aware. I remember the Wekapipo fight. That's why I said "imagine if".
spin drive by
@@richardlionerheart1945 Exactly what I'm thinkin
How about a special pedal bike? The plan is your Legs move in an imperfect Golden Ratio.
Oh boy he's doing part 7, let's GOOO!
part 7 best part
Go to where?
What
It is interesting that Giorno's stand abilities are closest to the 'new' stand concept introduced in part 7. Even in it's name Golden Experience contains key themes of perefection and mastery. There is also connection to the power of nature and righteousness, and later, after attaining the absolute perfection in the Requiem: infinity and gravity of fate. And he is also from Naples, lol.
yeah that is really right.
Furthermore, in the anime, the Stand Stat showcase of Gold Experience Requiem has several golden rotations for its background.
I feel that part of the reason for that is that it’s an evolution of hamon and part of Dios vampirism.
So GIORNO IS JESUS IN OLD UNIVERSE!!1!!!1
@@tuppiee1752 He is son of DIO (god) after all
Do you think that just as Johnny uses his nails as ammunition for his spin, Josuke's bubbles, which have been shown to be "lines" could actually be his hair? And perhaps that's part of why he has never been shown with his hat off?
The bubbles come from the joestar birthmark. Pay attention.
@@literallygrass1328 Only his invisible bubble comes from his birthmark. The others have been clearly shown being fired from his fingertips.
Pay attention.
Nail fibers...
Like a REALLY THIN nail clipping???
@@Unkle_Genny damn when where josuke 's fingernails in his hair?
@@literallygrass1328 fingernails are hair
Seeing someone using the bible as evidence for his JoJo theory is simply too much
edit: It appears that I came across as offended(?) I meant "way too much" as in "way too funny". Nothing wrong with it
You could call it... Bizarre
Since Jesus Christ is canon in the SBR universe, the bible technically counts as supplementary material for JoJo. Add it to your manga collection, JoJo Fans!
@@bentonic4998 hahaha yes
Jesus is God’s Stand
BTW it's not
Honestly one of the most needed things rn especially with me trying to explain what some stuff in part 7 is to my friend.
I would just let him finish the part and link hamonbeat's channel to him after lol
"So Part 7 is about this crippled guy and a cowboy horse-racing across 1880's America with cool spinning ball powers, only it turns out the U.S. President is evil and can travel across alternate universes and their enemies use cool psychic ghost manifestations with wack powers, so the only way to beat them is to master the shiny rectangle defining all existence and find the scattered body parts of Jesus Christ that for some reason also have ghostly guardians that give their own cool powers, also the cripple guy is trying to learn to walk again or something but the cowboy's cooler and tells great jokes so who cares."
@@mrreyes5004 cripple and Italian fight American president because jesus
this is the first hamon best video i watched after catching up to jojo and i’m so happy i don’t have to worry abt spoilers and can just watch a whole video
watch his araki forgots if you are confused with any plot points in jojo part 1-5
@@cjsaunders4737 thanks i’ve been watching them as i was going through the parts although the only part i found confusing was 5
seeing hamon beat in my feed always means it’s going to be a great day
ham on beat lmao
ham on beat meat
ham on beat
ham on beat
unless its araki forgot...
which makes me feel bad because these jojo fans are kinda
"mentally challenged"
I appreciate how you go so in-depth with your explanations and it’s clear you spend a lot of time reading the actual manga for these videos.
Yeah a lot of jojo youtubers only go for a surface level analysis but this guy gets deep in it
The Wonder Of U is visible to people as well and that breaks my mind
It’s because Tooru is using it to further his own goals.
It's because he stole the identity of the original doctor.
@@jean-pierrea5803 Imagine having the most powerful stand and changing his look as you want
People beeing able so see the stand in it's old man form seems to be a very important part on how his ability works
Wonder of U was originally The AU of Surface.
A corporeal, independent and sentient shapeshifter.
All these other powers: Tangibity Control, Calamities, Target Locking (ala Bites The Dust) and Duplication. They are defense mechanisms that were grafted onto Tooru's pre-existing Stand when he assimilated with Johnny's Holy Corpse. Similarly to Ticket to Ride.
When Tooru met Yashuo in 2001, he did *not* have these powers. This was before The Corpse. He only says he will 'impersonate' the real Satoru Akefu. Referring to his sole original ability.
Tooru also has *no* control of what will be/can be a Calamity or when they'll happen. Only that they have an order and are inevitable. As shown when Yasuho asks about what will be her Calamity. He has no manipulation over the Calamities because it isn't his ability, it's sourced from Johnny's Holy Corpse.
The only way I can come up with anything on that level is if I take drugs. Araki is out of this world with his ideas, what a madman(I mean this in a good way)
In the other video you talked about how a mastery over any certain craft could potentially awaken a stand ability and I think that just using spin on the steel balls just counts as another craft that can be mastered.
Spin is different though because spin isn’t like any other skill or ability. Spin actually taps into the power of the universe and reality. It is a skill that is intrinsically linked with stands and other worldly powers
SpectrumTwelve
1) Spin isn't directly linked to the Steel Balls. For Example, Johnny uses it on a cork.
2) OF COURSE IT'S MASTERABLE, BALL BREAKER AND TUSK'S ACTS ARE LITERALLY AWAKENED BY SPIN
@@literallygrass1328 Agreed; just like Tonio and Aya earned Stands by mastering a skill, it would indeed seem like Gyro's Ball Breaker is a result of his mastery of Spin. Just as Hamon Beat explained, Ball Breaker seems to be usable to _anyone_ who is good enough at Spin, and not just exclusive to Gyro the way Star Platinum is to Jotaro or Gold Experience is to Giorno. Shoot, that might even apply to Hamon of the first universe and how Hermit Purple is the manifestation of it; Hermit Purple might just be the Stand that Hamon users get for mastering it, which explains why both Joseph _and_ Jonathan get it as both were excellent Hamon users considered among the best by the end of their stories. Perhaps Pearl Jam is just the Stand that any chef (if they have sufficient spiritual strength, anyway) can get if they master cooking enough, not just Tonio. Same goes for Cinderalla, maybe anyone who masters cosmetology and has the spiritual strength for it can get Cinderalla.
@@mrreyes5004 nobody qaked
@@mrreyes5004 Nice explanation
_Bois, wake up. Hamon Beat uploads another JoJo lore video._
As the corpse of a saint deflects all bad things to happen to its owner (miracles), WoU seems to do the opposite to it's target (curses)
he is just one with the flow of the universe
In my opinion this is probably some of the most interesting JoJo content on RUclips. It gives you a new perspective on the whole series. Or at the very least certain aspects of the series.
Maybe the golden rotation isn’t only limited to horses and humans. Maybe it could just be the harmony of two living organisms working together to produce their own Spin.
I would find it kinda unusual if the golden spin could only originate from humans and horses, since I see them as such specific animals for such a powerful ability
yes that is true. golden rotation is not limited to only human and horse. In my opinion, tusk act 4 is the bigger version of tusk act 2 and 3. In later tusk, it is completely depended on how nail is rotating. So that it can create the phenomenon of infinite rotation. Nails rotate inward at golden ratio to create infinite rotation which can be transferred into other places as highly inward rotating holes which sucked anything which come contact with it. It also create many rotating dimensions because of it's infinitely inward rotating energy which is used as a wormhole for johnny to use tusk act 3. Tusk act 4 is bigger level. It's size is human level. I mean that by rotating your own body at golden ratio. you can create enough energy to infinitely rotate a human sized body or a human sized rotating hole. Because human are unable to do this. Horses are act as a catalyst for human to create golden spiral or golden rectangle (perfect spiral) through their own body. So that they can create enough energy and transferred it to nail or steel ball to achieve tusk act 4 or ball breaker. Johnny literally use his horse to make him rotate or form the golden ratio through his body. So that he can achieve tusk act 4 to defeat funny valentine. yeah it is pseudoscience that this type of energy is created from the run from horses. So that horses and jockey combined with each other create golden triangle or perfect spiral with their body combined to create enough energy (or make nail to spin perfectly in golden ratio with enough amount of energy) to make a human sized body to infinitely spin and finally crumble into pieces when this energy to create infinitely spin is completely consumed by rotation.
It may be the fact that it's considered the human is the peak of biological life-forms, both in biology and mind (also according to the ratio), and, it so happens that the horse, a species known for its closeness to mankind, has the biological potential to physically enhance the ratio of the human in a perfect symbiosis.
I mean, I understand your argument about it being so specific, but in all the observable universe, we just happen to be the only known intelligent race. There are many specific things in real life, but in a fictional level, it can also be done.
@@DeathScorpi0 If it’s an intelligence thing, then maybe two humans could form the golden rotation
@@DeathScorpi0 I actually give this theory in my previous comment because araki himself said,"I often see the phrase 'horse and man as one' in racing magazines or in historical novels, and it supposedly means that the rider can synchronize his or her movements with their horse, so that they're almost one entity. When I draw Gyro and the others on their horses, I feel like I really understand what that phrase means, though I don't ride horses myself. I can't tell you specifically which ones they are, but when I sometimes get a racing panel to look just right, it feels good, because the figures seem to fit well with one another. It just leads me to believe that humans and horses are biologically suited for one another." That's why i call horse as a catalyst for human to create golden ratio rectangle or perfect spiral from their own body to create enough energy to cause infinite spin phenomenon in much bigger human sized level. Sorry this comment is also long as previous one.
@@HerMi.T that's exactly what I meant, there is a perfect symbiosis between horsrs and humans that happened ever since we first domesticated them, that's essentially the reason why it enables the golden rotation
When u realized that ur imaginary friend is ur stand and other can't see it coz they're not stand users.
Just like kakyuin in the anime
So if other people have an imaginary friend too, can they see yours?
@@GoldGalaxy19 yes
schizo meds are the work of an enemy stand!
Just as I was looking for something to watch. Perfect timing for a great topic
In one of the alternate universes, there's another Johnny that has Tusk, so that's one more example of a Stand independent of the corpse in part 7.
Is this topic a valid one: Why the Joestars are seemingly gotten fate reversal since the first part when Johnathan and Dio first fought. Whether theres new evil, a joestar is there to stop it. I know that Dio was almost all the responsible for this but I find one exception; the Pillar Men. Yeah they were the creator of the Stone Mask and all, but picture this. Remove Joseph in the scene and their awakening is still underway and humanity will be doomed for sure if its wasnt for Joseph. I find it that the pillar men case was kind of disconnected to Dio even through the stone mask. Why is that? And connects to part 5. The one arrow would be still at the hands of Diavolo and that event happening was no directly influenced by Dios actions but rather just origin event for the arrow to be scattered to the world by Dio.
I would say that the whole thing about the masks was solved on part 2, but there was still one thing left and it was that bitch ass dio in a coffin. And the other parts are the joestar dealing with its repercussions. Guess the pillar men greater purpose was helping dio attain heaven.
probably just because of plot convenience. Not really another explanation for why they're always fighting bad guys.
I mean DIO just "died" so it would feel really wrong for him to come back in the next episode
good to see appreciation of the fundamental differences between series #1 and #2 of JoJo, not enough people properly cover how the power systems and worldbuilding is fundamentally different and has to be treated as separate like you are with making two videos
I would love if you dug deeper behind the ritual concepts that were at play by creating made in heaven.
Kaleb I.A made a good video about it
He already explained the whole plan
@@megamanxz-fb7oz absolutely, he asked about the concepts of the steps tho. Why those exact 14 phrases for example
New episode to drown my depression in. epic
Someone's 13 lmao
Now this is an epic gamer trad red pilled based wojak gamer moment
@Crazy Idiot
Yeah these videos are nice to just relax to or turn off your brain after a long day
@@KinkyDiamond Ooga booga edge
Speedwagon decides what’s a stand.
Stand user: Robert E.O Speedwagon
Stand name: golden country
Stand ability: golden country can manipulate any concept that Speedwagons allies are aware of.
Stand appearance: a black bowler hat with tears similar to Speedwagons scar
I haven't read "Steel Ball Run" yet but this was very informative! I have a feeling like these things are not talked about enough (or maybe my exposure is small/low) so thank you for making this video! c:
I think horses are actually catalyst for human to create golden ratio through their own body. I always consider tusk act 4 as the more bigger version of tusk act 2 and 3. This technique made human to create spinning energy from their whole body which make this ability more effective in bigger scale or in human sized scale. That hole created by tusk act 4 is more bigger spinning hole created by tusk act 2 and 3. Tusk act 2 uses the pseudoscience of perfect spiral to create a infinite amount of spin energy which make him to use it to transfer this energy in another object as a hole to make that hole spin and follow it's enemies. These hole spin inwards for infinity which create this sucking ability of that hole of tusk act 2. Tusk act 3 just uses the already existing ability of tusk act 2 and explain that how this infinite spin energy create multiple spin dimensions in the hole created by spin energy of nails spinning at golden ratio or Fibonacci number which is directly connected to each other. This spinning hole is exactly similar to real rotating black hole with very high angular momentum with the theory of wormhole to create this ability. It is the more expansion in the already explained ability to create even more powerful ability. Even with this ability, johnny has to think quickly and intelligently to finally defeat civil war stand. Tusk act 4 is simply the previous ability of tusk act 2 and 3 but in much bigger scale. It also activates the energy from your whole body not with small object like nails. Jockey uses horses to create spin energy from every part of their body because we can't use our whole body to spin it like a ball or nail. That's why they uses horses to create this energy from himself and horse combined. They uses horses as a catalyst to create a perfect spiral in golden ratio from their own body. Especially Johnny make his half dead horse to kick him in a way. So that he can create golden ratio or perfect spiral with his own rotating body in a correct shape and correct path of rotation (I mean he make himself rotate in golden ratio) just with his body alone without using his horse as a catalyst which can create multiple golden rectangles at different and multiple angles through his whole body. That's why it can implement the same pseudoscience of nail bullet into his own whole body to create same type of 'hole' in much bigger level which is a whole human body level sized spinning hole. We clearly see this hole where funny valentine is trapped after tusk act 4 pummeled him. That infinitely inward spinning hole always pulled him inside it when he tries to run from it just like nail sized hole.
my god.
@@danielsugrue4958 yeah sorry for this long comment. I am very confused to wrote this thing in a way i wanted. That's why i mistakenly same thing twice.
Can we get a TL;DR plz
Wow I never noticed the parallels of "miracles" in SBR and "curses" in JJL! That's really interesting on a thematic level, it makes the two parts feel more interconnected than they seem to be on a surface level, just like how "fate" was a connecting thread in the original universe.
Armpit Man has arrived with an upload
Armpit man.. nani!!!!
@@TomJerry-ct4ly if you know his secret twitter account ..
man hamon beat is totally a different guy on twitter
Araki forgot: Polnareff didn't give the kid any candy, but before he said that he will
Immediately after killing man in the mirror he went to fight hol horse, rip kid's candy
I never realised that the Speedwagon foundation may actually be plot relevant in part 8
You make me appreciate Araki’s writing more and more with every video
"Was Jesus a stand user?" Is one of the goofiest sounding questions
man i fucking love jojolion and it's great having more content dissecting the themes and ideas presented in it because I think they're some of my favorite in the whole series.
Hamon
Original
Beat
Do the spinny funny thing
My heart and actions, are utterly unclouded....They are those of justice. You experienced it, didn't you? Only things of happiness and beauty gather towards the corpse.
D4C:LOVE TRAIN!
My theory is that prevalence of stands, spin and blessings are a manifestation of fate valuing those who are virtuous. This is a reflection of how civilizations which are built on principles of virtue have withstood the test of time.
"What power did jesus have?" I mean he's literally jesus
*hamon da beat*
Hamon Beat, I'd actually like to add something to the segment about Rock Humans and "respecting the Earth"; *_the Pillar Men._* The Pillar Men's song, "Demon" played at around 23:00 reminded me of this, and I'm somewhat surprised this connection to the previous universe wasn't called out (not be direspectful, of course; and warning, this explanation is _incredibly_ long, my apologies for that).
Back in Part 2, "Battle Tendency", the threat group took the form of the Pillar Men, a group immensely similar to Part 8's Rock Humans - both are able to turn to stone (ESPECIALLY for long periods of hibernation away from human eyes), both are considered higher lifeforms than their human enemies and possess unique traits, and most of all, both desired to usurp humanity using a special item (Super Aja & New Rokakaka respectively), with both those items having a long history with those stone-based groups (with the Pillar Men having experimented with the energy-reflecting Red Stones and the Rock Humans cultivating the equivalent-exchange of the Rokakaka Fruits).
However, I think the most important connection here has to do with the beliefs of the Pillar Men's leader and main villain of Part 2: _Kars._ While the other Pillar Men were big threats, it was really Kars' idea from the start to use the Red Stone of Aja to become an ultimate being and lose all imperfections, with Wamuu and Esidisi more or less just tagging along either as sworn companions and/or to ensure their hard work wasn't in vain, and in fact Kars was the one who invented the pivotal Stone Mask (the objects that basically caused _literally every major event_ in Parts 1-6 all the way to the universal reset). _However,_ one thing that most people don't remember about Kars... is his _respect for the Earth._ I highly recommend watching the video *_"The Beauty Of Kars: A Character Analysis"_* by Meti『Not The Bad Guy』for a deeper explanation of this. Throughout the Part, Kars repeatedly shows an odd respect and care for other lifeforms despite his immense ambition; notably, after falling off a cliff and realizing he's about to crash on a couple flowers, Kars _intentionally_ hits the cliff wall to send himself richocheting off the rock faces like a pinball ball just to protect the flowers. Even more so, Kars is not only one of few villains to not harm a dog, but he even went out of his way to _save_ a dog from a drunk car driver, swiftly slicing the driver's arms off as the car passed to make it swerve and miss the dog it was going to hit.
It's not as explicitly stated as the Rock Humans' reverence for nature, but the Pillar Men (denoted by Kars) also indeed have a respect for the planet as well, tying into Ferdinand's dialogue in the new universe about factions winning or perishing for not respecting the Earth they walk on. Kars only ever is shown killing humans, who in incidents like with the dog could be seen as arrogantly asserting themselves over nature (especially the ever-industrial Nazis represented by Stroheim, whom Kars destroys with unusual anger in a one-v-one fight) rather than accepting that they're all still flawed and thus not objectively "better" than other creatures without the Super Aja. In fact, this theme was even showcased _all the way back in Part 2 WAY before JoJolion was EVER even conceptualized._ Because the thing is, Kars _actually succeeds._ Despite Joseph, Caesar and Lisa Lisa's best attempts, Kars does end up attaining the Super Aja and ascends to an ultimate lifeform, immortal and free of weaknesses, and he's literally only beaten seemingly because of luck. Joseph redirects a blast of Hamon that Ultimate Kars recently acquired (due to no longer being weak to the Sun's energy) into a volcano that then erupts and ejects Ultimate Kars into space forever. However, perhaps this wasn't _entirely_ luck - Joseph's train of thought while fleeing Ultimate Kars on a plane to the volcano was that the planet itself had given Kars life, and his plan to drive Ultimate Kars into volcanic magma to destroy him revolved around the idea that this same planet would then take that life back.
However, because Ultimate Kars' life literally can't be taken back or destroyed, his ejection to space can instead be taken as the Earth _rejecting_ Kars forever. This is actually because of a disgusting yet subtle action Kars took earlier; after finally becoming the Ultimate Lifeform and losing all flaws, the very first thing Ultimate Kars does after having respected the Earth the whole Part... is transform his hand into a squirrel to _needlessly maul an innocent squirrel._ For no apparent reason. Not for food or because he felt threatened by it, literally just for the sake of showing off his new abilities. Again, while not stated, this is likely because Ultimate Kars no longer respects the Earth and its life as he did before. As a Pillar Men before using the Super Aja, Kars was indeed an extremely powerful apex being, but still limited in potential and still weak to the Sun's energy; just as Meti said in the video I mentioned earlier, Kars still wasn't entirely sure he was better than those plants and animals (the flowers and dog). After finally becoming an objectively perfect lifeform, though, Ultimate Kars _does_ now feel for certain that he is now better than all these lifeforms and uses it as an excuse to use innocent plants and animals as mere playthings for him to tyrannically rule over rather than remain grateful for the power granted to him by the Earth. I don't think it's coincidence that Kars managed to succeed in his plan _while_ he was reverent and respectful to nature, and he only failed _exactly_ after he stopped respecting the natural world that granted him that life and strength to begin with. When he revered the Earth, he was able to succeed, but the moment he tossed away that reverence and began asserting his supremacy over it is when the planet itself rejected him to the endless void forever.
I say all of this because the stuff mentioned about the Rock Humans and the pursuit for the New Rokakaka in connection with respecting the planet reminded me greatly about Part 2's Kars and how his attitude to the Earth seemed to dictate his own rise and fall. Much like the comparison of talks about the "righteous path" between Parts 5-6 and Part 8 about Fate favoring the Just path, the dynamic of succeeding or failing to acquire power derived from the ground depending on a character's attitude towards said earth seems prevalent in both Part 2's Pillar Men _and_ Part 8's Rock Humans both seeking power granted in some way by the ground (minerals spawning Super Aja, soil growing New Rokakaka) and supposedly only succeeding if they retain respect for that ground granting to begin with. Perhaps Kars' choice to turn his back on the Earth that had given him everything once he had what he wanted resulting in that same planet taking him down for good may also be mirrored in the Roch Humans' quest for power over the rest of the planet's life; if they succeed and decide they can treat the lives of plants and animals however they wish after getting what they want, the Mother Nature of that universe might also decide to step in and put them in their place.
Underrated comment, bravo 👏
It does feel like Fate taking an active role rather than a passive during the Battle Tendency. Fate respect Kars and allow him to win but was disappointed that he doesn’t respect Earth after gaining power. So fate manipulate Joseph hand to trigger Hamon volcano and throw several things to throw him to space. Sort of like Adam and Eve exile on Eden.
But then again, fate foresaw this so it is still predetermined. I really need discussion on the philosophy of fate
Speed wagon foundation is essentially jojos version of the scp foundation
If hamon beat becomes any more of a virgin it'll become his stand ability
lol
I still can’t get over how amazing the intro
An part 7 is the best. The characters the creative story of catching the corpse of Jesus, the art, the best stands like tusk, scary monsters and d4c and the best fights, as well as great ideas. I think parts like 3 are over-rated and only stand by being weird, but this part is a masterpiece that manages to capture that weirdness perfectly.
Dude, part 7 is more overrated than part 3. I’ve seen multiple comments saying “thank god they’re animating part 6, now we’re one step closer to part 7” or something along those lines.
@@rslashwooosh4964 wtf you talking about bro. Part 7 captured everything good about jojo while still creating its own personality.
@@pedror942 I'm not saying Part 7's not good, I'm just a bit pissed that some people skip all of part 6 just to read part 7. There are probably people that only watched/read 3,4,5, and 7
@@rslashwooosh4964 Ei man I agree on that, part skipers are trash and while I prefer part 7, part 6 is underrated. Just wanted to show appreciation for my favorite part.
Great video. It's impressive how deep you go and how well you explain this things
thank god someone else mentioned what Urban says on the compatibility of the Rokakaka with Rock Humans, that is going to be unbelievably important to the endgame of this story and it's unbelievable that line flies under so many people's radar, it is _beyond_ just being important, it's critical
and then it wasn't.
When I heard the pillarmen theme playing over the image of a rockhuman I felt a shiver down my spine....
Btw, what is that spesific pillarmen theme called?
Same, I never really made the connection between the two but they are pretty damn similar.
its called awaken
It's called Ancientry
And yes, I felt a shiver at that part as well and started laughing because of it
@@namelessnarrator7271 Ah, thank you so much!
Do you think the pillar men exist in the part 7/8 universe?
What if hamon still exists in sbr universe and that's how jesus walked on water
KONO JESUS DA!!!!
i want yall to look at someone in a straight face and say:" jesus courpse gave leaves a stand ability" and remember that it all started with two boys hating each other
Great video as always, I was looking forward to the part 2
Virgin Rock Humans VS Chad Pillar Men
I love watching your videos at work 😌🙏
Jesus is a Hamon user, the way he dropped down from the sky, crossed in a perfect offense and defense state in such a way that no enemy can ever hope to triumph was for him to show his true godhood, however, since plot armour f*cking suck, he passed away, leaving JoJo a burning desire to defeat great evil one and for all.
So, Jesus was a stand user and Moses parted the Red Sea with a Beyblade. That's pretty cool.
23:04 the perfection in the way he edited the music in
Much love hamon been watching for a while but now ill sub
Hamon beat back at it again with the epicness😎😎😎😎
The Rocacaca could actually be some what of a naturally grown corpse part in some sense, as in instead of corpse parts being used to make an area perform equivalent exchange, Johnny's body could've caused the fruits to grow in morioh to perform the equivalent exchange, and the wall eyes to grant stands in a sense. Just a thought
3:28 , bro, bro, bro...
A M O G U S
WHEN THE HOLY POWER IS SUS! 😳
Mom: What are you reading?
Me: I'm reading about these guys trying to find Jesus' corpse and get super powers.
Mom: -_-
WOW Thank you for connecting the spin to stands. I was so confused as to why josuke suddenly had that ability but it makes more sense now.
On the subject of “perfection”, the red stone of aja is described as being a perfect object if I recall correctly… wonder if that had any meaning.
ngl, I would love if part 9 is Battle tendency 2: Kars, Wammu and ACDC booglaloo
It would be pretty cool if the jojo posing aztec gods get stand abilities as well
Now he’s back, he’s gonna make me think again
Since the first video I was waiting for this
I usually don’t like putting to much stake into fun theorycrafting - and yet I can’t help getting hype about the Rock Human connections with Araki’s worldbuilding and it all fitting together to threads from SBR.
It helps that Jojolion has been on a roll in terms of bringing in big changes so answers always seem to be creeping closer.
I think that there are some theories that the fruit from the Tree of Wisdom that Adam and Eve ate from were figs, not sure if that impacts anything in Jojo but maybe.
I think it’s important to note that in real world catholic theology, body parts of saints are believed to give some form of power too, holy power that is. All catholic altars (yes, including your local Catholic Church) have relics of a saint imbedded inside of them, such as possessions of the saint or body parts, which is why it is believed in catholic theology that priests are able to turn bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ through a process called transubstantiation.
I don’t doubt that this has some bearing on what araki was intending when talking about the corpses of saints in SBR
Thank you for sharing
Figues are often depicted as the fruit of the first sin instead of apples, maybe the proximity of the saints corpse and the fruit of the first sin restored it's original power making the true Rokakaka the fruit of knowledge, it would coincides with the fact they the fruit loses its power after the first bite.
I kept on checking to see if I had liked the video, great job
Oh shit banger video coming gonna watch it tomorrow with breakfast.
noooo i cant watch this video yet, im only at middle of part 7 :c
*Stands in part 3* This is my stand, Silver Chariot, He's a silver guy, and has a sword.
*Stands Now* This is my stand, Tiptoeing through the Tulips. It's a spiral of geometric patterns, and it turns your self doubt into talking flowers that comment on your body.
Yoo finally part 2
The mention of subatomic particles in the part 7 bonus chapter is fascinating to me. We're aware of stands/spin and that "energy" that appears and disappears spontaneously, as that's what stand energy is powered by. But where do those particles come from? Where do the things within Josuke's bubbles (subatomic particles, or at least things that cannot be seen) come from? Where does anything supernatural come from?
I believe that these particles appear and disappear from heaven, which give holy power to stands. Think about it, stand users are naturally pulled to each other through the force of gravity. It would make sense that the energy that comes from this attraction is caused by some sort of fate, as if certain particles popped in and out of existence to help stand users get to where they need to be for a reason.
Dio wanted to attain heaven, which he figured out through the power of stands. Kira and Diavolo relied on this fate in order to keep their identities a secret. Pucci was also searching for heaven, which we can equate to a place filled entirely with stand energy. The Holy Corpse eminates these particles that come and go from heaven. These particles appear to aid those who are holy, and grant stands to the natural world.
man holy shit, that whole spiel about "curses" being related to the negative energy that the golden ratio represents really makes me think you're almost unlocking some big secrets in the SBRverse. Like, im not sure exactly what it all means, but everything seems tied together in SOME kinda way. It seems like a lot of stands in Jojolion could be considered a form of "curse," with a lot of passive Stands that latch onto a certain action and pursue the user for doing so. It's also weird how there are so many different forms of equivalent exchange - the Rokakaka, the Walleyes, the combination of them that led to Josuke's existence, and the new Rokakaka. It almost seems related to that "negative" energy, as if the Walleyes are a more 'tainted' place instead of the Devil's Palm being "holy land," or whatever. That could even tie into the Rock Human's and the Rokakaka's origins.
im rambling at this point lol but seriously, there's some weird shit that's all linked together with SBR and Jojolion, and the way that Araki is handling the sheer mystery of it is endlessly fascinating for me. love that you can come in here and pull some of this stuff together lol
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Great video, but I had to quickly pause and click away at the namedrop of head doctor's stand, cause I'm still a few chapters away from that reveal (I think). But luckily "causes calamities to occur" isn't a huge spoiler based on what I've seen it do so far.
Me when daily uploads
you mean monthly right
@@jinkogg7915 r/woosh
@@goofyahhkokushibou6603 there isn't anything that says that it's a joke, you it's not a wooosh, it's just you being an idiot.
Theory: what if the whole rock people and rokakaka fruit are all connected back to johnny? Johnny stole the saints corpse in order to perform the equivalent exchange on his son, who was inflicted with "rock disease". Upon accepting it into his body, he was killed by a boulder crushing his head. He was later given status as a saint with his own power that affected the land, giving sentience to the rocks around the area; once they were made aware, they found strange fruit that would grow from the corpse of johnny that would perform the act of equivalent exchange, which they decide to take and farm away from prying eyes.
In other words, the fruits' effect was the result of the rocks disease and equivalent exchange that johnny had possessed at the time. And by using the holy corpse and the infinite spin, inadvertently created the rock people.
hamon beat: ball breaker is spin through a technique
meti: its the stand of gyro's steel balls
bandai: its gyro's stand
me thinking ball breaker is an evolution of scan:....
Love your content :)
Edit: your
Wake up babe new Hamon Beat
Dr. Hamon beat
Having not read Part 7&8 I have no idea what I just saw and I’m baffled that they managed to make JoJo even weirder but also very hyped to read the new parts now
Did u enjoy them in the end?
stands (other), the manifestation of things that can be transfered due to the corpse parts and can be evolved with other corpse parts, or by use of the golden rotation
spin, hamon but with a horse and a metal ball instead
saints, it's basically someone like jesus
poco loco, he's just a lucky guy
Im just waiting for that moment where everything in part 8 just starts clicking into place.
happy 35th anniversary jojo's bizarre adventure!!! :3