The Most Confusing Stand in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
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"Who shot Johnny Joestar?"
"yes"
Who killed Hannibal?
Damn the already had us with Roundabout but they threw it away by shooting best JoJo
yes yes but the important question is *WHO KILLED CAPTAIN ALEX?"*
*roundabout intensifies*
@@uc3113 yes
“We then cut to Jesus Christ”
Because why not
IgnacioPlays and dinosaurs don’t forget those
@IgnacioPlays and throwing your balls at people
To check in on him, I guess
Cut to Jesus Christ sounds way too normal for Jojo, if we think about it.
And a talking tree
The "Who shot Johnny?" arc is probably one of my favourites in any manga ever. It's so great.
Still can't figure out who really shot him
I don't like it a whole lot. The concept is cool but not only is it confusing, but D4C's ability was retconned from "Allowing neighbouring worlds to coexist" to "I can travel to different neighbouring worlds and pull people in with me".
@@ghost_man101k3 all three but valentine was the only person who did it on purpose
@@ruzgar1372 actually hamon beat has debunked that
@@ruzgar1372maybe it’s both
Imagine the kind of convoluted BS we'd have had to read if Araki stuck with the first ability for the whole part lol
You can always place a limitation on these abilities and make it work. The worst outcome is it coming into conflict with the character or narrative themes.
The original version could require the effected targets have the same desire for the effect to manifest. The problem here is that Wekipipo had no intention of directly killing Johnny at this point. However, he was considering betraying them for staying on the winning side. Therefore, it could be said that D4C's ability is to make the final decision for people who's hearts are clouded, much like a president decides the fate of his country.
Araki had something here, he just decided that the original D4C power focused on having Valentine manipulate people's motivations rather than how the final version manifests his unwavering personal conviction. Hell, it's so strong that literally every other universe's Valentine's have the same personality and conviction.
@@PSNSMANIACALMIND1st What
@@hermosillotramita480 'Napkins.'
I wish it was so, it would have created one of the best villain abilities ever seen
remember when this was all about British people punching vamps
Yes
Remember this show was about saving a daughter and a mom.. and a *MILF*
Rember when it was about finding a serial killer
< sigh >
With portable sunlight
Part 7: Who shot Johnny Joestar
Part 6: Why is everything a snail.
Part 8: why that little boy dressed as a girl in the basement
Part 8 : Why do i have 4 balls?
Part 8: Who put this chair here?
What is your profile 😂
Part 3: resetting stairs
Its pretty simple once you think of JoJo main villain abilities like different functions on a VCR or TV
The World is a pause button
Bites the dust is rewind
King Crimson is the "skip" function
Made in heaven is fast forward
And D4C is the equivalent of changing the channel
What about The Wonder of U (TWOU)
Now that make sense.
@@soulcrossing4310 TWOU is if you decide to throw the remote at the tv
@@soulcrossing4310 Wonder of U is more like picking up the remote, accidentally knocking over something causing a Domino effect that ends with the TV falling on you, your head smashing through the sceeen, electrocuting you to death.
D4c is like changing from the theathrical cut to directors cut
I remember reading this for the first time without knowing D4C's ability, while my mates were laughing at me because I couldn't understand it. One of them knew the ability but hadn't read those episodes yet, so when he did, he looked at me and said that now he understood why I was so confused XD
Lol
Jojo doing its best to confuse people
It took kakyoins death, polnereffs fingers, and Joseph’s blood to figure out dios ability in part 3. Part 7? Johnnys just like: yo this guy is teleporting, he stopping time.
@UltimateAndrew2 yeah and Johnny only fights High Voltage Dio right at the end, what's your point?
The speech bubble shows ringo, implying he figured it out because he'd encountered a time-based ability before.
@@zeal7895 very funny but I mean from a fighting perspective. Kira instantly figured out The Hands ability is to swipe away space which is impressive.
He also said about Star Platinum "that stand is moving as if it is stopping time". This implies he doesnt know that he can stop time but he had the hunch! Kira is a smart fighter and I hope that was just a dry meme for likes.
@@hassanakhtar7874 he is a smart fighter, but not a smart villian im surprised how he managed to hide for 15 years.
Also Kira, he found out when jotaro punched him
DIO: Stops time
Kira: Rewinds time
King Crimson: Erases time
Me: Waste time
Cyril Magsombol xd
Giorno: No
Valentine:Changes time
Cyril Magsombol part 8’s villain: ADDS TIME *DUN DUN DUN!!!!!* (I know what I say it’s fake but...)
Giorno: Shinjetsuu ni totatskurokotowa keshtenai
It took me much longer to understand king crimson, but I eventually fully understood it; but it took me less time to understand most D4C’s abilities, but took me forever to understand the whole “who shot Johnny” part
Honestly what helped me understand King Crimson the best was playing Terraria with the JoJostands mod, for some reason it just clicked
@@Skyfire-qu7ntThat sounds awesome lmao gotta try it out
There's a definitely a retcon in D4C's ability, if they ever make an anime, some of the things in this arc will be changed such as the time for each event will be stretched to allow valentine to have more time to switch everyone up or some of the events in universe 2 and 3 will be changed as to not include corpse parts. Maybe at first before the retcon, the corpse parts existed in every universe and D4C was supposed to exist concurrently in every universe as well, with no base universe at all.
This is still my favorite arc in the entire jojo franchise despite how confusing it is.
Part 6 stands.
I control the speed at which lobsters die
While the crabs go and learn physical anatomy every ten days
Yea
But now you have time to train them to listen to you and get buff
But only when im in bed
I can generate levels of luck to however i want to a certain extent, while also making you realize the greed youve had all along, and erase some of you personality and memories... but like once per person
Can we appreciate that the most confusing thing in JoJo is how three people simultaneously shot a cripple
Correct
Who is collecting all the different parts of Jesus Christ.
@@tomdaniel872 in a horse race, against the president of the united states
The most confusing parts are all the guns are the same
The most confusing part is how that cripple is still survived after getting shot 3 times by 3 different people.... oh wait, he's the main protagonist, so he got a plot armor
i feel sympathy for the animators when this part gets the anime adaptation
Comming fresh from finishing that part, I think D4C has a second ability which works more of an area of effect. Basically, if out of combat and focused, the dimensions are actually fusing and blurring together, maybe if only localized. But when used directy, Funny Valentine can use it to switch dimensions and bring people without their wallets with them. Or, you know, the stand changed when Funny Valentine got hot after closing the door.
The only person around here making any sense
i was thinking you could just imagine it as 2 abilities, it really makes it a lot less confusing ngl
Remember when JoJos was about buff men punching vampires with electric fists?
Good times! When some David Boey looking mf could freeze someone through physical contact, revive the long dead as fellow vampires, created a human headed dog for the lolz and exchanged his head with another person. Ah~ I miss the good ol' days
Imo part 4 was the last good JoJo's. part 5 is decent and then it gets to shit.
@@Nightwalk444
*uses Filthy Acts at a Reasonable Price and yeets you into your alternate version of yourself*
Remember when jojo was about gay Aztec gods with sexy-ass bodies and squirrels for hands?
@@presentmic5233 the good times
I look forward to Part 9 where the audience will need a PhD in quantum mechanics to understand the main enemy's Stand
Araki brings in 3 theoretical physicists, a surgeon, a crytozologist, and 3 quantum physicists to consult on the stands abilities
@@pieV3000 that's..... painfully accurate and I'm hyped 😂
The Main Villain's stand:
Crazy Equals Genius - By entering a separate timeless universe, he can delete things in order to create something with an equal value, but no-one knows how he actually gets the items he replaces things with.
if they do make part 9 who would the protagonist be?
@@utterclown1580 wut
Honestly, I think that D4C's ability in its reveal chapter was way cooler than its power later on. Instead of traveling to alt-dimensions, it could cause multiple events from different dimensions to overlap with one another.
I think I'm just biased against alternative dimension plotlines, as they can get really confusing. (Yes, I'm looking at you, Bioshock Infinite.)
BioShock infinite is peak bruh
Bioshock Infinite's writing is just bad, especially the Burial at Sea part 2.
I doubt even the writers themselves truly understand what the fuck they were writing.
I loved the Schrödinger's box explanation
stands after part 4
i can summon a devil that is unstoppable for one minute only on a tuesday
kuubi 77 yeah lol
P3: I'm fast and can stab people
P8: My money is cursed to drown you in more money
Imagine if a stands ability could only be used while a half mile away from any person named jeff when jeff is eating a ketchup sandwich, and while wearing a blue suit while speaking Gaelic backwards with a piece of gum on their forehead while its raining. Just brainstorming the most convoluted requirements for a ability for no fucking reason.
Knowing Araki if this were to be an actual stand ability, the effects of it would be instantly killing someone and combine it with the 400 IQ package almost every JoJo character has(sorry Okuyasu but you got the 40 IQ package) it'll kill someone
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For those who are still confused after this 23 minute long explanation:
When Wekapipo shot Johnny, and when Diego shot Johnny, those were two different universes/dimensions existing at the same time. However, Only the twins saw Wekapipo shoot Johnny because that’s what they saw in their universe, and the twins only saw Diego for the Same reason. So in short, both universes kind of merged together (I’m also pretty confused still so most of the stuff here would be incorrect probably)
This explanation doesn't work because: Diego and Wekapipo both met after they shot Johnny, without getting "closed" by D4C in between time, so how do they met if they were in two different universes when they shot Johnny? They only got "closed" once when they were fighting "Wekapipo" and Valentine behind the flag.
@@windflier1684 during the shooting they were transported to the base universe,
This could mean the bade wekapipo nd diego were placed in altnernate universes off screen,
or more likely the corpse part being only in the base universe was forgotten or not written yet as it wasn’t a important distinction yet,
Kinda makes more sense rather than the main villains ability changes, a small minor thing is changed that can be easily forgotten
Ok, to make matters short, basically, D4C's ability is to fuse realities by superposing certain regions of said worlds without merging entire realities altogether, because D4C can only use so many mediums to serve as convergence points between worlds (like doors, but in higher dimensions of reality), like a flag or other objects.
The catch is that Funny Valantine is not present everywhere, just anywhere in any given reality, so if he uses his ability, he can only connect a limited amount of realities within a limited space at a limited time, at least from what I understand, and so, he can only use it under specific circumstances that allow him to join two or more worlds, depending on the circumstances.
The topology of said worlds matter as well, as not all objects or people are neccesarily present "everywhere", just "anywhere" in some other reality, so if there is no connection between different realities by which to connect them, the ability will not work and no "pathway" will be created. As such, and because there are as many realities as there are ice cream flavors, only parallel and alternate universes that are associated with the "convergence point" in time and space (in other words, universes where America, Steel Ball Run and characters exist the same exact way, regardless of the "before" and "after" that point) can connect with each other.
This is proven by the fact that Funny Valentine, as far as his ability goes, cannot superpose "a Johnny" with another if they don't exist in the same relative axis of space time continuum, so it's limited to the present time and space within all universes, while the past and future times and spaces cannot be accessed by Valentine because he only lives in the "present" of each reality and not before and after that specific point.
This also explains why he can only specifically choose those characters within certain locations, since the closest ones to Johnny in each and every world relative to their own are the ones that exist at the same time in all worlds that have those specific moments in common, so a dissimilar reality cannot be accessed, and it'd be useless either way, because D4C cannot superpose entire realities since he isn't God. All he can do is temporarily enable certain dimensions to coexist, so even if he were to bring someone else from a completely dissimilar reality/world/universe/timeline, like say, Giorno o Jotaro from Part 3, 4, 5 or 6, the person in question would only be there for a short time until eventually realities diverge in temporal events through time and space (like two versions eating breakfast at the same time, the same way and at the same place, but once they finish eating, both versions go seperate ways, so there is no "convergence point" by which to unite people in a perpendicular dimension, or in simple terms, "you can't shake hands with another if you're 50 meters away from them", just that, instead of being a matter of 3D distance, it's all kinds of higher-dimension distancing).
This explains some things:
1. As long as the events in each universe is, for the most part, exactly the same, any event that happens before and after the "present"of each universe is irrelevant. In other words, it could be that, in different worlds, the order of events is different, but a single moment in time remains majorly the same, like when many people are present in a certain location within multiple realities.
So, for instance, there could be a world that not only has a Diego that took different choices, but that his choices were not the only ones different. So, say for instance, thar Diego saw the the woman being transported at a certain point of time because it was the doctor's decision to mobilize her.
As such, that same exact scenario could happen in an alternate universe relatively before or after. Put simply, the events, to a certain digree, cannot happen "everywhere at every time" when the universe merge, but it can happen "anywhere at any time", so if an event occurs, say, 3 minutes earlier, in another world it happens 20 minutes later, -5, 4, etc.
Basically, each universe has it's own different events as well as the order they happen in, so certain events may be happening before and after the time established within the base universe without actually happening at the same time as the base universe, so from Diego and co.'s perspective, certain events might have already happened by the time they were superposed in a specific point in time common to all three universes at once with the base universe and viceversa (haven't happened yet or at all in contrast).
Also, I believe you are wrong about the whole concept of "superposing universes". Let me explain.
So, for starters, just because certain areas of many worlds are superposed doesn't mean that all characters exist everywhere in a specific location.
What I mean by that is that superposing worlds isn't as simple as saying that they are all "the same" now. All three remain intact. It's only the area of effect that has a direct influence of its surroundings, so just because in one universe, all three possibilities exist at the same time doesn't mean that on the other two universes, thise same events are happening.
For instance, let's say you can look through three different windows which exist right next to each other. You are in a spot centric to all those windows, and as such, you can choose to look through any of the three windows, but not all three at once.
That's basicalky what's happening here, just that it's a bit more complex.
You have U1, U2 and U3. Valentine makes a window on U1 to U2 and U3, and the point between all three windows is in the exact same position, but in different worlds, so if a shooting occurs in U1 within a certain location as U2 and U3, it can then be viewed by any universe, but not neccesarily all of them.
So, say that an event in U2 and U3 is superposed with U1, but U1's events are not visible in U2 or U3, and U2 and U3 can't see what happened within each other.
That would make sense because the focus on where the superposition is projected to is also important, so if it's only visible in U1, U2 and U3 cannot see what happens beyond a certain degree of superpositioning, meaning that in U2 and U3, cain people can see "something"that may be happening in it's universe or U1, but doesn't mean that U2 or U3 are looking at all 3 possibilities simultanously, only Universe 1.
So, if the kids and the artist in universes U2 and U3 only saw one of the three outcomes and in U1, all outcomes are visible, then U1's kids and artist witnessed all 3 events, while the kids in U2 and U3 only witnessed a single event in each.
Finally, about the corpses' parts situation:
It is possible that Araki made a mistake or didn't care. Either way, either the corpse exists in a single universe, or exists in all. We're going with the former.
Going by the logic of the corpse existing in the base universe only, a simple question: Why doesn't it exist in other universes? I believe the answer is simple, and that's because either they were speaking of a corpse different from the base universe, but being the alternate version of the base universe's corpse, it isn't the same, and so, the base universe's corpse remains exclusive to that particular universe, while other corpses that are different exist having th same significance, but as their own seperate thing, and have no relationship with the base universe's corpse.
That, or U2 and U3 don't really exist, and it's really just the "phantom" of U1 made real to a degree, and so, U2 and U3 would just be like a sort of "imperfect replica" that have inconsistancies within is as a side effect of Valentine messing around with superpositions and dimensions so much.
To be quite honest, I made the last one up! XD
But in all seriousness, I do think the former is quite possible, specially considering that in U2 and U3, historical events and people may be different and as such, also the corpses of dead people with the same amount of value as the base universe's corpse, which would make U1 special and distinct from the rest, while also explaining why "the corpse" exists in other universes, and it's simply because the corpses aren't the same. They just have the same or similar values and properties, so it would be strange for peopke to know about it.
You know it's confusing when the "short" answer is a whole ass essay
"To make matters short."
*Creates a novel.*
@@maximusstorm1215 XD
Yiu get a like for effort and execution
That's a much better and more thorough explanation of the events that transpired than what most people have
I have my own explanation that deals with why I think Hamon Beat, Xforts and Bizarre Star Platinum's explanations don't work enough
That explanation (like yours) also tries to make conclusions regarding the extent of the ability of coexistence, enough so that it at least works out at the end
It's a bit difficult to explain as it requires one to talk about 4 different perspectives and possible explanations for everything we see on the pages
But here we go
Here is my central thesis:
Hamon Beat's explanation in Debunking Araki Forgot for Part 7 and Xforts explanation in his most confusing stand video are required viewing for what I am about to discuss
I will attempt to clarify everything but to understand the sheer scope of confusion, perhaps it's best to first look at the eminent JoJotubers
I would also highly recommend Bizarre Star Platinum's video D4C Stand Analysis(though he subscribes to the "retcon" hypothesis)
If D4C's ability is coexistence of parallel dimensions(coexistence), it sort of explains Johnny's experience as he narrates it to Gyro, but would contradict the whole base universe thing as people from neighbouring worlds (I would later go on to elucidate on what neighbouring even means here further later on) would somehow know about
If it is going between and transporting stuff to and fro from the base universe to parallel universe(dimension hop), it could potentially explain all 3 accounts(though it would need to be expertly timed to a ridiculous degree) but would contradict Johnny's perspective he narrates to Gyro
It also seems that it's important to make a distinction between parallel universe(which I would call neighbouring universe, whose overall characters and powers and stuff line up with our own) vs alternate universe (something like DIEGO's THE WORLD universe)
We know that whatever happens, ALL 3 of them HAVE to see Johnny Joestar turn into a hole and leave the sewers
We also know that whatever happens, somehow, someway or the other, the meeting between Wekapipo and Diego has to happen and in Diego's account, Diego has to acknowledge that he did (seemingly) shoot Johnny but the one who shot Johnny was Valentine as explained by Diego's smelling ability to which Wekapipo has to respond that he was the one who shot him
This completely rules out the possibility that Johnny's account of having been shot by both Diego and Wekapipo and seeing Valentine between horses(seemingly only possible provided that both Diego and Wekapipo somehow coexist as per the original D4C explanation) is somehow compatible with the case where all base universe Diego and base universe Wekapipo are transported to parallel worlds(i.e. the later "retconned" D4C power)
Only the base universe has the corpse and so only characters from the base universe can know about the corpse
We know from later in the arc that parts of the corpse can indeed be transported to a different universe using D4C as the left eye is transported from base universe Diego through the flag, so it is not far fetched to assume that Lucy could also be transported provided that there is some way to merge all the corpse parts(let's forget the possibility of corpse parts being potentially forever separated in the case where Valentine might die potentially with some parts being in a different universe)
But since we are told that the corpse parts in the universe are unique and only those from the base universe can know about them in the first place, we know that the Diego and Wekapipo from the arc are most certainly from the base universe, that has been established
Also note that Diego is transported to a different world through the flag later but only his top half, which was supposedly the same as the one he was just in, enabling Diego to be rescued by Johnny in this parallel reality (one with his top half) and later on meet Johnny in base reality(his bottom half). This also explains that Johnny was shot in 3 different realities since both were wounded
Both share the same bullet holes? Could it just be a coincidence? I mean Valentine can't control where Diego and Wekapipo shoot. This does get explained to some extent it seems as Diego states that the world he was transported to was "just the way it was back in the base world"(paraphrased). This leads on to the question of why didn't Valentine transport him to a world with a situation much more different than the situation in the root world as that would've meant that he wouldn't have Johnny and Wekapipo to deal with(such a world certainly exists as Valentine works within infinite possibilities of both alternate and parallel world with the only requirement being the existence of one base world and one D4C) but whatever, I guess he didn't consider doing that because of the sheer domination.
The Johnny we see after Diego was pulled back was from the base world Johnny as he later recalls the death of Wekapipo when talking to Gyro. That is obvious.
The JoJo wiki suggests that Valentine might have 3 abilities which he uses: Coexistence, dimensional hopping and showing people visions of different realities(a necessity when it comes to Johnny's account) limited by a single D4C
Perhaps universe alignment works in conjunction with dimensional hops and that might actually explain what happens in the later arcs as well
As in, Valentine can allow different realities to coexist simultaneously in the same place, make people in certain realities see things of different realities simultaneously, which can be used on Johnny to see the alternate ways in which he was shot and even on Diego to make him see Lucy in the Independence Hall(this might actually not be necessary) and of course, dimensional hops
In this scenario(with some flexibility in the conversation between Wekapipo and Diego), provided that the rules of D4C during the separation into parallel realities to the eventual merger are different than the ones shown later Johnny needs to be replaced and Wekapipo needs to be transported and stuff.
Here is one possible way I could rationalize this(bordering on theorizing even, though this isn't strictly necessary):
I am going to assume a few things: D4C can use one of 2 possible sets of powers, both useful in their own way: Splitting base into parallel reality(used for Diego and Wekapipo) while enabling some people to see different realities than the one they exist and merging them back into a single reality(during a split, there is a base character, so there will be a Diego split and a Wekapipo split, a split is an alternate reality. when a split is merged, OR bringing people from one reality to another). Both are useful in their own right as splitting with can be used to trick someone to see something different from a different reality
Wekapipo was ambushed by Valentine, split into a coexistent reality upon contact with the flag and made to think that he shot Johnny from this alternate reality, then brought to the base through the merger
Diego was in base world and later split off into an alternate reality(I think this happened after Valentine saw Diego infiltrating the Independence Hall and recognized him as we can see from his words later), saw Wekapipo from a different reality, ended up shooting Wekapipo who got replaced by Johnny's corpse definitely from an alternate world(as the base world Johnny saw President come back from the door and also saw Diego come back through the flag) that was shot by Valentine(has to be true as per Diego). I believe that when Diego touched the flag, that was when D4C transported him to the place where there was alternate Johnny for him to shoot, this was also when I think he made Diego see base Wekapipo through the vision ability and after Diego climbed the building, that is around the time the merger happened
Valentine shot base world Johnny and made him see the events in Diego and Wekapipo reality instead, noticed that Diego and Wekapipo were in place and later merged the different realities together before the fight with Diego and Wekapipo began. This merger would explain the sponge analogy as different realities and possibilities, same place, same time were merged together on the same plane as the base world. Valentine also knew that all the pieces were in place as he saw that Diego and Wekapipo having experienced the events that happened in parallel realities have now merged
And base Johnny's claim of being shot by Wekapipo and Diego cause of President's ability is now true in his perspective, his claim of seeing Valentine between horses is also true in this perspective, his claim of the disappearance of Valentine is also true in this perspective(as Valentine would just show him the different realities of Wekapipo and Diego)
Now the fact that all of them shot in the exact same spots, could not be chalked down to either of these abilities, unless we assume that the splits are infinite
i.e. there are infinite Diego splits, infinite Wekapipo splits and that only the splits with the convenient trait that they shoot in the same location are allowed to merge together, else they're disallowed, this once again plays into the sponge analogy of sponges filling just the right holes. Now it is possible that the alternate conversations or the slight changes might just be because some splits might not be merged, so we might be seeing an unused parallel reality here, although this is very far-fetched
He casually just says “gyro eats some horseshit off the ground”
Sock that’s what jojo does to you sometimes
d u s t t a l e s a n s ????
Santiny yes indeed I am too lazy to change it
Because Gyro did casually eat horse shit off the ground lmfao
Fr, the first time I read that panel, I have to read it again, I just can't believe my eyes 🗿
"Who Shot Johnny Joestar" takes place from 3:59 to 4:13
That's 14 minutes
14th of February
_Valentine's Day_
*_Valentine shot Johnny_*
:O
Holy shit....
Naiisu On Araki
OH GOD
@@toomanyeyesjoe1438 you must be a smart one, thinking he was referring to time stamps in the video....
I think a good way to explain it would be with visuals, if you used the 3D models to show from above, with Base, Universe 1, 2, 3. Then you can just drag and drop the characters into the base universe so it’s easier to understand
This hurts my brain and enhances it at the same time
i would have created the streets in minecraft
Lol
Agreed
UnderSTANDable
i would too
I thought the exact same thing. 😂
Ok kids, let's play the game "Who shot Johnny Joestar?" Was it a dinosaur? Men without stand throwing wreckin balls? Or the president?
President?
Skałcik Play correct answer: they all did, but it’s all the President’s fault!
Yes
Everebody and President Only at the same time!
all the above
That animation of Dio putting Polneraf at the bottom of the stairs is hilarious
I got d4cs ability spoiled for me and I still was super confused at that introduction arc
Lvl 1 Cripple vs Lvl 100 Presidents
That's how *D4C* works
Yep
Not funny
Dont become a justin y please
Usuario comun he might not be funny, but he’ll still be our valentine.
... I’ll leave right now
D ick 4 c ock
*D4CS*
Funny Valentine: *Empties revolver into Johnny*
Funny Valentine: "Who shot Johnny Joestar?"
Hey Johnny look at me
*Bitch*
(shoots Johnny)
Why would someone do this?
"who shot Hannibal?"
xDddd
ruclips.net/video/boZamkRMCfg/видео.html
my lovely city of philadelphia is now a jojos reference
when you're so excited at making a character that you forgot its other characteristics and powers.
Everyone: who shot Johnny
Funny: well to answer that we need to talk about parallel universes
With just real world connotations that's already a mind fuck.
Valentine kills Gyro in half an A Press.
Valentine builds up speed for 12 hours to access parallel universes
never though I'd see a pannenkoek2012 reference in the wild.
Lool
This is why jojo take so long before they adapt it into anime.
Araki sensei have to explain it to anime studio about his 200 iq
Araki be like: What I am about to say now contradicts God's teachings
made in japan? did take that name from made in heaven? lol
Golden Wind took 1 week to animate the entire part
@@starrgaze_r fr?
y e s
Okay, so to explain D4C's original ability, it could basically swap out sections of reality with other universes. The reason why the old artist knew that Valentine shot Johnny was it's original weakness, that being there would be certain sections of reality he couldn't swap out, hence why he couldn't affect the old man
I'm sensing factoids????
I remember reading this and I felt so bad for Johnny, like he literally got shot by three people at the same time and it's shown from so many angles and perspectives so you just see him get fucked up over and over again.
If crimson king just works
Then D4C doesn't even work
And that's how it wins
It just works
@@duffinthemuffin5792 OH YEAH YEAH
King Crimson is like when you jump 10 seconds on the video, but Diavolo sees the video without the skip.
It works just better
Basically, the answer to the question "Who shot Johnny Joestar?" Is "Yes".
Guess they won't be the Roundabout this time
Should have said "Dojaynnnnn"
TripledGold-Christian He sure did
valentine shoot johnny ez answer
They all did it actually the flag did it
The animated town and movement reminds me of people explaining jfk conspiracies, and the fact the question is "who shot Johnny" makes it all the funnier.
this video was the reason I started reading part 7, been a year since I finished reading it and still don't understand WTF happened in Philadelphia
Part 5: How did bruno hit his future self?
Part 7:WHO THE HELL SHOT JOHHNY?
@Rahman BRO Part 8 villian is the most powerful of all, but he/she hasn't appeared yet
@@mori7602 Plot twist main villain is the wall eyes
Moreh 00 bet giorno is stronker
Part:10 who tf is the main jojo
@Rahman BRO The head doctor...
Probably
Diego with Scary Monsters is unique to the base world. He was brought into universe 3 without knowing when he was first next to valentine
Thank you so much for this explanation. People always said that the abilities D4C had in this arc wouldn’t be present in the next ones, but I always interpreted the who shot Johnny arc to be Valentine using his stand in wacky ways
How the hell are they gonna show this in an anime
They wont, dp will stop animating jojo so they dont have to pass by that
@@harryvpn1462 wait what? DP won't animate jojo anymore???
@@mohamedelhediissa289 no that was just a dumb joke
They might have to resort to using Necromancy to bring Einstein back to life
@@harryvpn1462 Am i the only one who actually thinks part 7 will never be animated even though its my favorite part and probably one of my favorite things in media ever? The part is so long and requires so much time and money to animate that i think the return in profits will simply be to low. So the higher ups and Warner Bros would probably just invest their money in something else.
I was spoiled on D4C’s ability
But when the D4C introduction arc played out, the spoiler was useless
lmao same for me with made in heaven
i’m glad to hear this because i’m spoiled and i haven’t read steel ball run yet. the thing is with jojo, if you finish the anime, after that, you get spoiled for the manga cause there’s no stopping it. i got so impatient i actually started to read the manga
i ruined 69 likes
@@lenohuuuu i fixed it
@@jh.arturo nice
Thank you for this! I had to reread the D4C arc chapters multiple times to get what was happening. It was super confusing for me 😅
Johnny’s explanation is how I always understood it. I was never confused
Ultimate Remote stand be like:
Star platinum: pause movie
The world: pause movie
King crimson: skip 10 secs
Killer queen bite the dust: rewind movie
Gold experience requiem: rewind a bit
Made in heaven: speed up movie
Dirty deeds done dirt cheap:
Change channel
Basically
Change channel but the other channel can be seen in that channel
Gold experience rewinds to the beginning, bites the dust rewind the movie an hour
u forgot that king crimson can erase bad parts
D4C is basically a crossover episode
Protagonist’s stand: i can uhhh shoot gun and bullet bounce
Antagonist’s stand: *requires a 23 minute video to describe its ability*
And still no one gets it
@@greatvalueblueberries i do
@ige77 both is easy to explain I have explain it to others in 5min 5of those min was about me explaining KC D4C GER
This is until tusk 3
Wait are you talking about hol horse mista or jonny
this is one of them moments where you cant explain it clearly but when araki makes an anime adaptation ur just gonna be like when you get to it you get it
This actually sounds brilliant. I hope there is a movie that can replicate this scene.
or da anime 😢
"Who Shot Johnny Joestar?" Sounds like a title of a crime/mystery novel.
Who shot Mr Burns?
Who Shot Mr. Burns?
Who shot captain alex?
who shot my dad?
Only problem is that I don't think the mystery can be solved...
King Crimson: It just works
Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap: It doesn’t work
no thats GER
@@sachyas Nah, GER is: It didn't work
@@scotcheggable yes, that's what I'm saying lmao
Heavy Weather: I don't know how subliminal messages work
@@scotcheggable GER: It never worked
Removing boundaries between the Universes. Like infinite images stacked, but different details for each image
I literally just tuned out during the explanation. This is too big brain for me.
ngl King Crimson isn't hard to understand, it's just hard to explain with just words
yeah
The simplest explanation I know is that king crimson can erase the cause but keep the effect but i dont know if its fully correct
@@novv5920 king crimson opens a world where he is immune but he can't interact with anyone and he can move in it, in this world everything happens normally but at the end it will be erased so no one, but diavolo, will remember what just happened.
In this moment he will be in an other position, like the others, ready to attack.
Before he erases time he can stop it while predicting the future.
All this in a maximum of 10 seconds.
Hope I was useful and sorry for the bad English.
@@giovannigentili3375 your english all good, dont worry 👍🏽
Ok, what if, (and bare with me I've never watch jojo but I'm curious) king crimson can replace time.
Example, KC gets shot, but he pulls an alternate timeline that the bullet misses, then makes his move, then deletes that time so that no timeloops or paradoxes can happen.
This is just my theory, I barely know anything about jojo but this one stand ability intrigued me
The fact that dio picked up polneroff, moved him, and walked back is hilarious to me
The World has a range of 10 meters and is easily strong enough to lift a swole Frenchman, so I don't see why people assume DIO would take the risk of appearing "laggy" by walking over to Polnareff, moving him, and rushing back up.
If Polnareff knew how to BLJ, Dio would've been dead right then and there.
@@nicholasfallbrook9810 DIO is a vampire, fast and powerful. Yes, DIO can do that
@@givemeanameiwillhate9525 It would still have the issue of DIO needing to pose back in the exact same spot perfectly or else he will look like he's lagging. Plus using the World is just so much easier.
@@nicholasfallbrook9810 why would he need to worry? His "seconds" are not seconds
I honestly understood this for the most part when I first read it. I initially thought valentine had a stand allowing him to teleport between American flags (lol)but the only thing confusing me on first read was when wekapipo shot the man in the flag and it just happened to randomly turned into Johnny and when wekapipo died then it turned into Johnny 😂
My understanding of this is that funny valentine of screen took (from the base universe) diego and lucy steel to dimension two and weakapipo to dimension 3 in order to create multiple scenarios in which he is shot and after the event he also returns Lucy steel.
Jotaro: “ Once a life is taken it can’t come back, no stand can do that”
Giorno: *Laughs in Vento Aureo*
I got bad news for you about Bruno buddy.
@Extreme meme Machine yup
@Extreme meme Machine yes and with DIO's blood too, and speedwagon foundation's help too
@Extreme meme Machine Actually no
HEAD HURTS!!!
CAN WE JUST GIVE THIS MAN A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR MAKING A 3-D RENDER OF A TOWN FROM MANGA CHAPTERS
Thats crazy
@Chonghan L and bizzare
@@verysuperkoolepicperson9790 and in a town
As someone who did a bit of Blender (aka, actual torture) in college, i can definitely say with confidence: i would rather get hit by a car than be forced to do that. Mad respect.
@@LucasF25 bruh you shouldn't have commented it was perfect
Thanks alot for making the model. Or this would feel like he'll to see this twister again
You have another achievement, one more sub. Your content is really nice and very clean.
David production HQ
CEO: We are doing Jojo part 7
Storyboard writer: nO
Doesn't they just animate the manga ?
Or they rewrite the scenario ?
And yeah, In any case, this gonna be hard to adapt
@@love_games_studio they'll have to summon the Aragod to explain the situation frame by frame
Oh god. I doubt steel ball run will be animated
@@maarpevans5781 so never
Stands in part nine be gonna be like: Now introducing my stand, albino rat, when ever someone sneezes my stand moves a random rock in the multiverse and every time a rock has moved it destroys that universe so when that universe is destroyed everything is pushed into jesus hairbrush.
Joeseph
This could actually happen probably
I hope not (also 69th like)
So true
@Hayden Barber (277HayBarb) it in turn causes mini explosions that form time loops on specific objects
2:33 beautiful man
Read up all the way to this arc of part 7 just to see if I could wrap my head around D4C's ability before having it explained to me, and I still needed the video to get it somewhat straight. 🤣
Jojo Anime Fans after watching jojo part 5 : at last there’s no more confusing stands like king crimson
Manga Readers : there is another
Stone Ocean: *snaps* hey baby
Jean Claude Van Dame Sky High just kinda vibin
@@liquidalumina7141 Frog Rain from heavy weather: **Snaps** Hey baby.
@@liquidalumina7141 Underworld arc: Hey baby
Like 4 more lol
You know this whole thing would be so much less complicated if we replaced Johnny with Jotaro.
Readers: Who shot Jotaro?
Jotaro: No one, *the bullet grazed me*
Muhammad Joestar.
Yes! He is!
“The bullet is the same type as my stand”
@@Dr.Yakub22 rock human:(turns into rock)
Jotaro:so it's the same type of stand as star platinum
Mihajlor mc
Suta Rocku
2:33 Beautiful man
Thank you so much I just read this arc and it hurt my head I thought I was rereading pages
D4C is almost basically when a kid makes a character
Like oh he’s invincible
SCP-682 *cough cough*
This is too true. When i was a kid my lil sis and i would play some shitty fights and have magic and shit but she would always use something to make her strong and shit.
Yeet xD
- My character can stop time!
* Yeah? Well mine can move in your stopped time!
- Mine can make yours not move in my stopped time!
* Mine can erase things yours did in your stopped time!
- Okay, but mine can enter a different universe and pull out a copy of you and make you kill yourself with it!
And so on, and so on...
really? been thinking it kind of does nothing(in a open area) and he got killed repeatedly. he relied on a separate and kind of redundant power at the end and a gun
everyone: king crimson makes no sense wtf
d4c: haha lol parallel universe go brrrrrrrr
Why do people do that with their names?
Your name is cool af
Brrrrrrr
Dame Da Ne
@@IX_4
Dame yo
I love to imagine the Dio and Polnareff staircase scene as Dio stopping time and rushing down to polnareff, picking him up, and plopping him at the bottom of the stairs
Dio: Pause
Kira: Rewind
Diavlo: Skip
Pucci: Fast-Forward
Valentine: Opening multiple browsers in a search engine
I think the most confusing thing, is how Xforts doesn't have more people appreciating the good shit he puts out
Agreed
@hahaahaaha lol
@@simplygreen3543 nice name man
@hahaahaaha You can't be serious...
@@greengreengreengreengreen99 Right back at ya buddy!
When you realise if Part 7 gets animated, there will be a rebirth of “IT JUST WORKS” memes
I... shamefully don't read the manga, what's the villain's stand?
@@lemonhead1571 ...............should we tell him?
@@real_maronszewc1 Wait a minute.
lmao
@@lemonhead1571 *boi*
The events in the manga actually do make sense when you think about it for long enough, the hard part is explaining it to others.
Shifting from cowboys battling each other with “cursed” will of power and a confusing set of events to Jesus’ backstory to then say “because it’s JoJo” is the best explication from a JoJo’s fan to a JoJo’s fan explaining JoJo’s
So d4c is mostly like:
: Multi select
: Cut
: Paste
: Files like this already exist
: Overwrite
????????
D4C: *multiple 'doyjaaan's in the distance*
Whaaaat???
that actually explained it quite well honestsly
Not overwrite....annihilate those same "file"
Yup
before the video:
It's freaking King Crimson that wtf
after the video:
Well King Crimson is actually easy to understand
Nah I still think King Crimson is more confusing
King Crimson’s power is easy to understand, it’s rules are just so horrifically inconsistent that trying to come up with one always functioning set of rules is impossible.
@@Chensoman King Crimson erase the cause and leaving the effect or something
@@sincalo What lol no. KC HAS 2 ABILITIES AND LEMME EXPLAIN
Court of the crimson king
Basically the world but everyone and everything moves according to the action they are fated to do basically if you were to throw knives at KC you can't change the action your gonna take
Epitaph allows you to see the future in your perspective. Also everything that is seen in epitaph WILL HAPPEN.
If you use this 2 abilities in tandem is pretty simple you can figure that out on your own.
To me D4C is easy to understand but king Crimson... I am not sure....
Top 3 iconic moments in Philly
3. Signing of the Declaration of Independence
2. The parade after the Eagles won the Super Bowl
1. The complete toppling of theoretical physics
"We then cut to a flashback of Jesus Christ hanging on the cross"
Only this could happen in jojo
To this day I still don't get how people find King Crimson confusing
...Until I remember that one time he erased time to dodge -Mista's- Narancia's bullet.
King crimson is basically lag in video games raw bin alter
Because of the manga's inconsistency.
@@crawlingboy I'm glad more people are using that example. Yeah, it's pretty much just everyone but Diavolo is lagging in a video game online for 10 seconds.
It kinda is.... with the portrayal of King Crimson's skipped time in the manga and especially the anime
@@metal42 Fans don't want to admit that. Like when Evangelion fans pretend that the ending makes sense so they can feel superior.
Or... maybe Stand powers are inconsistent and ill-defined? Like, from the beginning? Even fucking Hamon has "make shit up-itis". Remember how Dio can shoot eye goo out of his eyes like lasers because reasons?
The fandom will get ten times better when all the pretentious douchebaggery ends and people just accept that sometimes Araki makes shit up that doesn't work.
Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap? Don't you mean:
*Filthy acts at a Reasonable Price*
*Emotion where someone laughs at you at a day where you are with someone you love*
Unethical doings executed at an affordable monetary level
Unclean actions performed at a non expensive amount
Unpolite doings at extremly afordable monetary amounts
Grimy exploit executed chintzily
Just ran into this video after finishing that exact SBR arc, the confusion felt like having a stroke.
I love confusing stuff. This makes me wait for every Jojo chapters.
D4C is so confusing that even King Crimson is scratching his head
Now I just imagined King Crimson scratching his head, while a tiny hand scratches the tiny head lol
@@MrPF that's a hand with a hand with a small hand scratching the small head
You are everywhere.
Pedro Fellipe hIS NAME IS EPITAPH
Basically, D4C Ability: Parallel Dimensional Reality Warping
Also you can't bring money because it's..."Done Dirt Cheap".
A reasonable price indeed.
It's kind of wack though, why wouldn't you be able to transport denominations though? Is there some actual reasoning besides the name?
@@bloxer9563 we know that alternate universe has slight differences and the corpse part will be change into something that is equivalent valuable (because corpse part exist in the base one are op) so maybe in infinite universes, there will be one where money becomes the equivalent to the corpse part, meaning that bringing equivalent to corpse part is not allowed in other universes. This can be proven because valentine never store corpse parts in other universe, even tho it wouldn't be destroyed which means that every corpse and its equivalent is the only thing that d4c can't bring
No money, Dirt Cheap, that's genius
@@wirusan4829 So then you shouldn't be able to bring even clothes or bones to neighbooring worlds
hat off to the effort you guys put in
King crimson: erases time by skipping scenes and anything that happened during the scene (that got skipped) isnt inflicted on anyone its just like the skip button on yt
D4C: travels through alternate dimensions, bringing people to alternate universe, combining universes together and inflicts misfortune on other people
No one:
Araki: “The power of my stand, ‘Old Town Road’, changes the arrangement of valence electrons in any given substance, but only on every third tuesday of the Pagan calendar”
Stand: ' yeezus ' makes your senses switch every 2 mins with 5 conditions
Stolen OMEGALUL
@Evan Kearney I checked Twitter with some words form the tweet and couldn't find it
CarbinkMonoxide you’re so unoriginal that you have to steal from other people? Pathetic.
No one :
JoJo Main Villains:
“My Stand YMCA allows me to warp to where a person is standing in an alternate timeline where they had Toast for breakfast instead of cereal as long as they are within a three meter radius of me, However I can only use this ability as long as I am not facing south and as long as something within a 50 meter radius of my stand takes the shape of a Y, M, C, or A”
"Magenta is alive. This is important later"
"We then cut to a flashback of Jesus Christ"
lol
"base universe sponge"
LMAO
Welcome to Jojo where everything just works apparently
Short version, d4c can hop between dimensions by sandwiching his enemy or himself between 2 objects which he uses an American flag for, he later gains the ability "love train" which allows him to protect himself from all forms of damage he may sustain, there is only one d4c across the multiverse which can be transferred between Valentine's
damn this is gonna be crazy to see animated
*D4C didn't actually get retconned, Valentine just found D4C's ability too confusing to use.*
Valentine : What the hell? How in the hell does my stand work... Let's bring copies to myself and shot people that should work
It’s true
Your theory is funny and all.... but it might be true, his stand was so powerfull that even himself couldn't comprehend it and nerfed it. It really could be legit
_"Remember when stands are able to phase through objects?"_
_"But Pesci's main stand ability is to phase through objects?"_
@@itsmegorilla2190 Diver Down at least has crazy skills to alter the objects tho
To be fair Pesci can pull solid objects through others with the pole
@@jerrikko3379 its literally like when Star platinum grabbed jotaro's/ josephs heart
Coda It’s fair if the stand can phase through its own user, maybe it used Joseph’s wounds to get into him
@@chlorox817 Except Star Platinum can't make the heart incorporeal and pull it out without having it have to break through the body, unlike Beach Boy.