The Tragedy of the Stardust Crusaders

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  • @KalebIA
    @KalebIA  8 месяцев назад +144

    Here's the Part 5 Version!
    The Tragedy of Passione: ruclips.net/video/jFXV4xhqxr4/видео.html

    • @deloxlox1635
      @deloxlox1635 7 месяцев назад +1

      What music did you use for jotaro?
      Edit: found it, It's "never meant to belong"

    • @SB-3368
      @SB-3368 6 месяцев назад +3

      Part 6 Version
      ruclips.net/video/fJO-GHb8VPc/видео.html

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 года назад +20270

    The sad thing about Polnareff is that he watched most of his friends die, his sister was raped and murdered, he lost his body, his Stand and he never got to build Polnareff Land. He is one of the most tragic characters in JoJo history.

    • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
      @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 2 года назад +1830

      He literally lost his body, his stand and his friends

    • @dismaned6675
      @dismaned6675 2 года назад +2040

      @@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 but he gets to live a gangstar’s life with Giorno the son of his worst enemy.

    • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
      @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 2 года назад +2356

      @@dismaned6675 That’s cool but he unironically lives in a Turtle’s body while he used to have one of the fastest stands in all JoJo

    • @neoniintention4536
      @neoniintention4536 2 года назад +931

      @@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Literally creating afterimages when armor is detached, like you know how fast you need to create one, and Silver Chariot was able to create fucking 7 or 6 of em.

    • @mortezarazavi8347
      @mortezarazavi8347 2 года назад +534

      I just wish he could meet jotaro again... And maybe with Speedwagon foundation and joske's help he can take his body back or get a new body

  • @fchef8370
    @fchef8370 2 года назад +6068

    It is so sad that Polnareff never got to build Polnareff land. Truly a tragic character

    • @huelid7410
      @huelid7410 2 года назад +54

      Here before this comment blows up

    • @doctorrtd4326
      @doctorrtd4326 2 года назад +12

      @@huelid7410 me too

    • @kevinkahrlpipino4553
      @kevinkahrlpipino4553 2 года назад +139

      Nah, Avdol is far more worse. He never got to see his chickens again.

    • @ducklett01god
      @ducklett01god 2 года назад +75

      @@kevinkahrlpipino4553 Iggy couldn't take the nap he wanted 🥲

    • @samuelflipaclip7415
      @samuelflipaclip7415 2 года назад +44

      @@kevinkahrlpipino4553 no it’s Joseph he never got to say nigendayoo again😢😊😅

  • @tpaplayzstuff7271
    @tpaplayzstuff7271 2 года назад +11052

    The saddest thing about Jotaro is that he was forced to keep himself seperated from his wife and daughter because he killed DIO since there still were alot of loyal followers of DIO. And the time when he does come to see his daughter, he gets his stand and memory stolen.

    • @an3582
      @an3582 2 года назад +350

      Well, he decided to have a wife and kid after defeating DIO... Kinda his fault.

    • @tpaplayzstuff7271
      @tpaplayzstuff7271 2 года назад +1008

      @@an3582 guess he just couldn't restrict his big baby maker huh?

    • @theCookiedOne
      @theCookiedOne 2 года назад +780

      @@tpaplayzstuff7271 he probably just didn't want the Joestar bloodline to end

    • @tpaplayzstuff7271
      @tpaplayzstuff7271 2 года назад +669

      @@theCookiedOne True and was willing to sacrifice himself for it too. Good thing that in the 'new' universe everyone gets to live peacefully without the hindrance of any of DIO's remaining minions

    • @Freepalestine23-p6h
      @Freepalestine23-p6h 2 года назад +68

      @@an3582 he didnt want joestar bloodline to end

  • @ashbarion
    @ashbarion 2 года назад +19064

    It's wild that Joseph outlived all the Stardust Crusaders

    • @12DAMDO
      @12DAMDO 2 года назад +3933

      it's especially wild considering the Joestar Bloodline
      but Joseph was always the exception when it comes to rules of being a Joestar

    • @JJLarge
      @JJLarge 2 года назад +1876

      Jotaro survives because he is reborn in the new universe, as are all the other characters Pucci killed. So Jotaro is still around too

    • @theviscount4622
      @theviscount4622 2 года назад +2

      he has dementia so he probably thinks all of them are still alive

    • @JJLarge
      @JJLarge 2 года назад +269

      @@theviscount4622 no, he's not that stupid and there's no indication of that shown ever.

    • @theviscount4622
      @theviscount4622 2 года назад +812

      @@JJLarge I hope joseph is just trolling, cause that scene where he goes senile Is very sad.

  • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
    @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 2 года назад +6889

    Polnareff literally has the worst life of the Crusaders in my opinion He literally had his sister killed by Hanged Man and it might have implied that Hanged man had violated her, he was also used as a pawn/slave of DIO and after he saw Avdol and Iggy get killed in front of him, he later lost his ability to walk, being paralyzed for years only to be killed by the same monster and be stuck in the body of turtle while also losing his stand and ever since Egypt has never met any of the crusaders so his only friends were far away and unaware while he was paralyzed and lost his body

    • @philswiftdestroyerofworlds1988
      @philswiftdestroyerofworlds1988 2 года назад +645

      Polnareff in my opinion was really underrated and really scratched that itch that Speedwagon did before.
      That one buddy everyone gets along with, a person struck with so much tragedy that he respects and values friendship so much more because of it.

    • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
      @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 2 года назад +234

      @@philswiftdestroyerofworlds1988 He feels more like the main character than Jotaro of Part 3 He has so much character and likability

    • @SuperDababy2
      @SuperDababy2 2 года назад +357

      You forgot to mention that for most of his life and especially after his sister died Chariot was his only friend, and by the end of his life even Chariot had tried to kill him after walking away from him. Oh and there was that one girl he liked in Egypt that he never saw again

    • @ruplalsoren7180
      @ruplalsoren7180 2 года назад +25

      @@SuperDababy2 Just want to remind you that girl was an enemy stand user.

    • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
      @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 2 года назад +199

      @@ruplalsoren7180 He is talking about the girl who got turned into a fetus

  • @shenloken2
    @shenloken2 2 года назад +6716

    I can only imagine the tragedy of Jotaro and Joseph returning to Japan after defeating Dio.
    - Telling Holly that Avdol and Kakyoin gave their lives for her.
    - Telling Kakyoin’s parents about his tragic death.
    - Jotaro probably living in fear that other Stand Users will come after him and subsequently his mother.
    - The fate of Avdol’s chickens Prince, Lionel and Michael now that he’s not there to take care of them.

    • @mrmako
      @mrmako 2 года назад +801

      NOT THE CHICKENS!!!

    • @mooganify
      @mooganify 2 года назад +416

      Tbh Part 3 wrapped up too fast. Idk if 20 chapters worth of people telling information would work too well but they don’t even go home to Holly.

    • @djwksjzj9351
      @djwksjzj9351 2 года назад +62

      I dont think Jotaro lived in fear

    • @dr.funnybones
      @dr.funnybones 2 года назад +203

      i hope joseph took care of his chickens for him

    • @peter42liter93
      @peter42liter93 2 года назад +400

      @@djwksjzj9351 probably not living in fear but he definitely spends the rest of his life with way more of a heightened sense of caution and paranoia than when we’re first introduced to him in his jail cell. just look at him in part 4 and in the beginning of part 5 where hes so paranoid about dio and potentially dios son that he sends koichi out on a mission to basically spy for him. jotaro is definitely not the same man after stardust crusaders, that shit changed him.

  • @raruther59
    @raruther59 2 года назад +1106

    I love the idea that Kakyoin didn’t need the art set to use Hierophant Green, he just bought it to be extra cool brooding emo boy with art powers. Fits so well with his loner character.

    • @rickthebrick200
      @rickthebrick200 Год назад +85

      lonerpilled broodmaxxer depicts jotaro as a soyjak in his epic painting

    • @karameru_xd
      @karameru_xd Год назад +10

      Only thing that I wished was for kakyoin to use the art powers again :(

    • @jjh01harmon38
      @jjh01harmon38 9 месяцев назад +19

      He never had art powers, lol. He was just being dramatic

    • @wren_.
      @wren_. 8 месяцев назад +20

      @@rickthebrick200”Nice argument, Jotaro, unfortunately, I have already drawn you as the loser Wojak and myself as the Chad”

    • @alan_decker
      @alan_decker 6 месяцев назад

      @@jjh01harmon38that’s what he just said

  • @sinnamonski685
    @sinnamonski685 2 года назад +1464

    It's nice that Araki did make note in the part 4 manga that after adopting Shizuka (the invisible baby) he became his old self and gotten stronger mentally and physically again for her.

    • @qwart22
      @qwart22 Год назад +57

      Awwww

    • @dipflop5530
      @dipflop5530 Год назад +152

      Man the anime really skipped the best parts huh

    • @stev009
      @stev009 Год назад +68

      @@dipflop5530 yh least they could do was make a narrator say it

    • @blackm4niac
      @blackm4niac Год назад +43

      soo... he picked up his Hamon training for the baby?

    • @SaiyanGamer95
      @SaiyanGamer95 Год назад +89

      Araki did say that he's likely still alive in Stone Ocean, but "a bit dumber".

  • @il3fortunato664
    @il3fortunato664 2 года назад +7428

    We lost Iggy, Kakyoin and Abdul in part 3
    We lost Polnareff in part 5
    We lost *him* in part 6
    But we never lost Joseph... the one who fought 3 Aztec gods, lost his best friend, lost his mother, saw his daughter suffer, fought dio's minions and Dio himself, he betrayed his wife, had a son with another woman, adopted an invisible child and lost all his companions of the crusade.

    • @ZzIAmNOTLegendzZ
      @ZzIAmNOTLegendzZ 2 года назад +263

      You might want to edit a little more, you call Joseph "her" a couple times

    • @il3fortunato664
      @il3fortunato664 2 года назад +367

      @@ZzIAmNOTLegendzZ
      OH MY GOD! I didn't notice my error, now I fix it

    • @hollow7500
      @hollow7500 2 года назад +95

      Polnareff still alive tho

    • @il3fortunato664
      @il3fortunato664 2 года назад +227

      @@hollow7500
      well yes, but actually no (?)

    • @hollow7500
      @hollow7500 2 года назад +60

      @@il3fortunato664 his soul is alive then

  • @jon8054
    @jon8054 2 года назад +1783

    i’ve never seen my sister cry more at an anime than when she saw the end of stardust crusaders.

    • @SlashinatorZ
      @SlashinatorZ 2 года назад +126

      I actually cried at the end of Part 4 during it's toonami premier.
      Reimi going to heaven, Joseph reminiscing with Jotaro on the boat, etc.

    • @jet_set8648
      @jet_set8648 2 года назад +65

      Yeah, especially near the end I was crying more than Okuyasu on Tonio's mineral water.

    • @seymourbutts5941
      @seymourbutts5941 2 года назад +30

      The end theme hit so differently by the end.

    • @korozom
      @korozom 2 года назад

      When Iggy dead, poor pornalef

    • @kazakhjojo
      @kazakhjojo 2 года назад +13

      but, i never cried at any of parts that hard, like after reading part 6 end...

  • @peanut4831
    @peanut4831 2 года назад +3647

    I think one of the saddest parts of Jotaro's character is this concept of 'without reward'.
    No matter how hard it seems, Jotaro gives it his one hundred percent focus, commitment and time. He never slacks off and jokes around like his grandfather, Joseph, did back when he was young. But he wasn't just some holy force of nature sent by God like his ancestor, Jonathan, was. He was both smart and strong. A deadly pair.
    But for all that, he was a man. And while he was a man gifted with the most powerful stand known to mankind and both the brains and the determined to go with it. He still had weaknesses. He still had his lack of ease, never really showing his emotions until he reaches his boiling points and it spills out. He had his PTSD from the deaths of the crusaders and his constant fear and anxiety regarding his family and friends.
    After losing the crusaders, I believe that Jotaro became very obsessed with this idea that danger is constantly following him due to his heritage and this was further compounded by the fact that when he went to Morioh, another whole set of shenanigans ensued because of the presence of Joseph, Jotaro and Josuke. Now combine that with the fact that he had a daughter. Jotaro now believes that the things he loves: his mother, his friends, his wife, his grandparents and his daughter. They are better off without him in his eyes, and so he goes off to protect them without them ever realising why.
    He goes around the world, fighting God knows what and defeating countless stand users who he deemed as a threat to not only the world at large, but to his family. All the while he brings more attention to himself and more people know who Jotaro Kujo is and what he is capable of. This further increases his fears because he knows people know who he is and now they will target what he loves most to defeat him. So, what does our tragic hero do? He continues. He entrenched himself further in this madness. He carries on.
    All this loneliness, this silent suffering. All for the sake of protecting those he holds most dear to him. Whether it be his mother or his daughter Jolyne. He goes on and keeps protecting them without them ever knowing he does.
    Which is why it is all the more tragic for him when it comes crumbling down.
    Jotaro's biggest tragedy is that, for everything he does. He gets no reward. His daughter never gets to enjoy the promising life she had in front of her and he never gets to finally rest and lift the weight of expectations and duties from his shoulders.
    Instead, he has everything he loves ripped away from him in the blink of an eye by his greatest enemy's friend. The shadow of DIO still haunting Jotaro till the very last moment.
    Even when offered the chance to save the entire planet and himself, Jotaro chooses to save his daughter Jolyne. Not once but twice. Because to him, she is the greatest reward. Because to him, she is what all his hard work is for.
    Because to him, she is The World.

    • @namesdontmattergaming2756
      @namesdontmattergaming2756 2 года назад +521

      I’m not crying…..it’s the work of an enemy stand…..

    • @Obi_The_Guard
      @Obi_The_Guard 2 года назад +341

      Are you sad and crying for a fictional character? - Yes, I am.

    • @shadowagent7361
      @shadowagent7361 2 года назад +89

      When was the second time he chose Jolyne over the world? I am well aware of how the MIH arc went.

    • @aregularguy2083
      @aregularguy2083 2 года назад +144

      @@shadowagent7361 what a wonderful world. It's been a long time since I've read it, so I think that sums up the 2nd save. 1st was when he saved Jolyne from Jongali's bullets leading to his disc stolen.

    • @shadowagent7361
      @shadowagent7361 2 года назад +47

      @@aregularguy2083 I honestly didn't count that one considering Jotaro had no idea about Whitesnake at the time, where as he knew good and well what would happen if he failed with Made in Heaven

  • @animefan77
    @animefan77 2 года назад +1952

    Joseph is defined by tragedy and flaws. He lost his rival due to an argument that could've been resolved if they had given time to look at it from a calmer lens, but due to the argument provoking said rival- it contributed to his death, which weighs heavily on Joseph who feels immensely guilty over trying to figure out what he could've said to be more tactful. That's not even mentioning he's lived long enough to see all of his close allies, even the ones that were Nazis, die either naturally or through combat- with only Smokey and Lisa-Lisa still being around- the case of the latter, it's ambiguous if he's still around by Part 6 and in the latter, she once again leaves him to live her own life after briefly interacting with him, after years of believing she died along with his father- due to being on the run avenging said father. That's just Part 2.
    In Part 3, he loses three of his colleagues, dies temporarily to be brought back, and is under pressure to save his daughter while stopping a homicidal vampire from taking over everything. And what's worse, a lot of it was out of his control this time around due to the enemies being too strong.
    And in Part 4, his flaws come back to haunt him as his infidelity is exposed and he tries to make amemds to his son, which are frankly resolved with a new family member, but even he's not as senile as he pretends to be, he's still far past his prime and would be a burden in the fight against Kira.
    He suffered a lot, but for better or worse, he's a retired old man who at least lived long enough in his old body and identity by Part 6 and if he managed to live past the part, he'd die a natural, peaceful death this time around. He's earned it more or less.

    • @blueflare4139
      @blueflare4139 2 года назад +59

      I don’t think it’s that ambiguous in part 6 he literally just got old and senile which tbh the reason he didn’t practice hamon anymore was most likely he felt guilty still and just decided to let hamon go otherwise he would’ve still been young in 4 and 6 he would probably lost Susie Q though

    • @uainjansun
      @uainjansun 2 года назад +18

      @@waffles5433 he is

    • @honguitoesporado4857
      @honguitoesporado4857 2 года назад +20

      Come to think of it, I wonder if what Joseph did throughout part 3 was a way to "redeem" himself for cheating on Suzie Q and harming her daughter and family.

    • @blueflare4139
      @blueflare4139 2 года назад +4

      @@honguitoesporado4857 nah that happened afterwards what he did in 4 was for that originally it was only for his daughter

    • @aubergineman3491
      @aubergineman3491 2 года назад +8

      Well tbh the stand users weren’t really strong enemies. It was that his stand was ineffective compared to theirs. If he was able to train with It i think it’s confident enough to say he could have probably used it very well like a weapon. I just hate how weak he was portrayed but tbh he had to be nerfed cuz he would have killed Dio. I still think the pillar men were on another level than dio

  • @berrypretty6305
    @berrypretty6305 2 года назад +458

    this, in the manga, is manifest of the Joestar curse. Bringing suffering to themselves and those around them in the name of justice. It's why Part 6's ending is a happy one. Jotaro and Jolyne are finally free.

    • @JimmyPizzaDelivery
      @JimmyPizzaDelivery 2 года назад +39

      Free! GET IT?! STONE FREE!

    • @JodaroKujo
      @JodaroKujo 2 года назад +6

      @@JimmyPizzaDelivery star platinum requiem

    • @starkage9987
      @starkage9987 2 года назад +54

      The joestars drew their strength from their blood but their blood is also their weakness, JoJo! Your daughter is your weakness!
      -somebody on part X to avoid spoiler

    • @Made_In_Heavenn
      @Made_In_Heavenn 2 года назад +3

      @@starkage9987 Damn, i remember that line so well...

    • @joel2749
      @joel2749 Год назад +2

      @@JimmyPizzaDelivery Wait, are you Jojo's Pizza Delivery?

  • @saucevc8353
    @saucevc8353 2 года назад +252

    I love the tragic irony of all the Crusader's eventual fates.
    Avdol, with his fiery stand and personality, is killed in a dark room by a literal void. It also mirrors the time he almost died to Hol Horse before.
    Iggy, despite his initial uncooperativeness, dies out of dogged loyalty to his former rival.
    Kakyoin, introduced as a sneaky and cunning servant of Dio, dies honorably while facing his former master turned enemy.
    Polnareff, whose greatest strength was his chivalry and speed, ends up paralyzed then a turtle because of an honorless crime lord.
    Jotaro, who killed Dio himself, spends the rest of his life failing to kill his shadow.
    Joseph, the most intelligent of all the crusaders, grows old and senile.

    • @ShoulderMonster
      @ShoulderMonster 5 месяцев назад +1

      Satisfying arcs, yes! Definitely A+ character writing!

  • @IQbelowaverage
    @IQbelowaverage 2 года назад +1151

    I think what makes part 3 even more impactful is that when you finish this long adventure, full of action and comedy, when you've grown to love these characters, you're thrown into part 4, with new characters and places. And you get adventures and comedy as well, but this time you get the sense of something much calmer. You go back to everyday life. The crusaders reached their goal and they go back home, and everything is back to "normal".
    Personally, while watching part 4 I was always wondering where the main storyline was. The first episodes lack a main focus, and I think that makes it even more important. It's real. It lets you go through the eyes of a crusader, and wonder if it's all really over, if the most relevant part of life already happened in that trip to Egypt. It makes you wonder what'll happen next, which is how real life goes. I think this is one of the reasons why even the viewer longs the times in part 3, even if they were not there physically.

    • @Starburst514
      @Starburst514 2 года назад +82

      That's the best way to put how I felt about seeing part four for the first time! Part three will always be my favorite but part four is so special because it's like a break. It's more like a slice of life show in many ways, we spend time with young protagonists who act like actual kids, where Jotaro and Kakyion seemed so much more adultish in thier adolescence
      Especially because part four is sandwiched between the first three parts, and then 5 and 6 who are also full of high stakes and actions; part four is like a breather in many ways

    • @mooganify
      @mooganify 2 года назад +24

      Yeah, despite not really liking the second half of Part 3, I just feel like it drags on for way too long which I know isn’t an uncommon opinion, I still miss it whenever I finish it and I remember my time with it fondly. Part 5 tries to do something similar but I just despair most of the time because the characters are nowhere near as endearing even if every other part is better written than Part 3.

    • @supersaiyandio1223
      @supersaiyandio1223 2 года назад +1

      The story is about the town

    • @sarox152
      @sarox152 2 года назад +9

      You said what i wanted to say but, i didn't had the words to say it.. jojo is the best anime in my opinion, i watched over 100+ shounen animes but none had that feeling, i don't know how to express myself.. anyway, jojo have a special place in my heart..

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 2 года назад +7

      @@Starburst514 honestly, Part 4 did have its stakes, but it wasn't "the fake of the world" stuff, but more local.
      Kira was no less dangerous than those 3 or the Pillar Men. Hecould easily have been a major world power like Dio, Diavolo, or Pucci, but he *chose* to a different path. So, sure, the stakes weren't as high, but the danger was just as great and we had more time with the characters as people, not just as champions.
      It was probably the greatest shift in storytelling the series took from part to part, so it was a bit of a shock to say the least.

  • @lunalien8240
    @lunalien8240 2 года назад +596

    It drives me crazy. The Stardust Crusaders is my favorite protagonist party in all of JJBA, and they all ended up horribly. Literally nobody gets a “happily ever after” despite the fact that each and every one of them deserve such an ending. I used to appreciate the fact that at least Jotaro, Joseph and Polnareff survived Part 3, but after watching through the following parts, I really start to think that it’s probably better if they died earlier. It hurts me to see them getting hurt and I feel like dying early for a Stardust Crusader probably isn’t so bad.
    Joseph had lived a long life, but thanks to that he was accompanied by countless goodbyes.
    While the peaceful and happy Part 4 was progressing in Morioh, Polnareff was SUFFERING in Italy. When he finally was able to meet Giorno, he lost his stand and body.
    And finally, my favorite JoJo, Jotaro. He spent the rest of his life getting rid of the remnants of DIO’s forces along PolPol and never truly had his own life. His marriage life was not happy either because he couldn’t even get to stay by the side of his wife and daughter for a while. He gave his life to protect Jolyne, but he probably greeted his daughter in heaven way sooner than he would’ve thought.
    I call the Crusaders a real tragedy. It’s like a puzzle with simply no solution. It’s like whether or not they survived did not matter after all because they would never be happy. It really makes my heart ache whenever I think about the unfair lives that each and every Crusader had to live through.

    • @catdango6079
      @catdango6079 2 года назад +1

      SAME

    • @fururuha
      @fururuha 2 года назад +14

      Spoilers ahead:
      The only happiness i can think is when pucci is finally dead and i like to think that jotaro get to live a peaceful life without worrying about dio's influence anymore.

    • @srkaz8114
      @srkaz8114 2 года назад +46

      @@fururuha This is cannon. Araki said that the souls of the characters got to live on happily in the next universe without DIO and his influence. More than that, they retain the lessons and friendships of their previous lives, which is why everyone was still together, even after eons had passed.

    • @jamalwalker04
      @jamalwalker04 Год назад +1

      "Peaceful happy part 4" lol you didn't read part 4

    • @lunalien8240
      @lunalien8240 Год назад +14

      ​@@jamalwalker04 How many people died in part 4 except Reimi who came out dead and Kira who was the ultimate boss? Like, 3? That's not even enough to account for like 1/3 of the main cast or important characters who died in part 5 lol. Also the first half of part 4 was literally Josuke and friends' everyday life, and the main plot about Yoshikage never started until literally the past half of the entire story. If this couldn't be called happy and peaceful among the JJBA franchise idk what could man...

  • @animefan77
    @animefan77 2 года назад +962

    Polneraff suffers a lot, most of it not even being his fault. He loses his sister to the monstrous son of a sadistic aide to a homicidal vampire with universal aspirations, via the cruelest fate a woman would suffer. He understandably wants payback, and in his overzealous nature, he gets goaded into a situation that gets Avdol killed, leading Polneraff to have added guilt, which is temporarily alleviated with J.Geil's death due to the possibility of no more victims from this monster. Polneraff is then taken advantage of by the enemy for his weakness to consider dying to what he thought were his sister and mentor figure killing him for not helping him the right way- which is partially alleviated through Avdol coming back- still being alive and recovering behind Polnerafff's back due to the others considering him loose-lipped, which is another issue on its own. He then sees Avdol die for real this time and it's something completely out of his control due to the enemy's nature,. Soon after, Iggy dies after finally building a friendship due to the enemy being cruel. And then he learns of Kakyoin's death, so he's lost three friends and has to continue the fight against evil, but at least DIO himself is gone.
    Then his crusade against evil leads to him getting crippled and left for dead. He can't even call for help due to Diavolo's hold over Italy, leading to him carrying the means to defeat the seemingly invincible Stand alone. He then loses his body, his Stand has to be put down to defeat Diavolo, and he's now in the body of an animal who's only good for transport and hiding. And ironically, he's back in the service of DIO- the vampire who took advantage of his guilt to make him a minion- technically through his son, but thankfully the son is on the side of good. Given how long turtles live, he's not getting any peace anytime soon due to being involved with the dangerous world of the mafia.

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 2 года назад +22

      Other that that last bit about working with Giorno being like Dio's minion again, it's pretty solid.
      Giorno is like the best of both worlds between Johnathan and Dio, which is amazing because his childhood was bad like Dio's too

  • @LinneRinne
    @LinneRinne 2 года назад +472

    "A typical seventeen year old kid that just doesn't understand social cues"
    My man it took me like 17 years to figure out that, if people talk to me, it's because they are probably interested in talking to me.

    • @docterbred1813
      @docterbred1813 2 года назад +13

      you good bro?

    • @LinneRinne
      @LinneRinne 2 года назад +27

      @@docterbred1813 Tbh yeah, I'm doing pretty great.

    • @seymourbutts5941
      @seymourbutts5941 2 года назад +21

      17…. Lad, it took me near 30

    • @LinneRinne
      @LinneRinne 2 года назад +8

      @@seymourbutts5941 Gotta respect that, everyone's got their own time.

    • @lasarousi
      @lasarousi 2 года назад +3

      Some people talk to you because they have no other option.

  • @Shellshock39
    @Shellshock39 2 года назад +600

    Kakyoin: Dead
    Avdol: Dead
    Iggy: Dead
    Polnareff: Crippled, died and became a turtle
    Jotaro: Has to live with DIO ptsd and knowing three of his friends are dead.
    Joseph: Cheated on his wife, thus breaking the Joestar family

    • @12DAMDO
      @12DAMDO 2 года назад +134

      Joseph used the ancient technique of running away
      it was very effective

    • @Kira-pv4xq
      @Kira-pv4xq 2 года назад +71

      Well at least he created Josuke and Josuke stopped Kira.

    • @12DAMDO
      @12DAMDO 2 года назад +90

      @@Kira-pv4xq Josuke didn't stop Kira, an ambulance did

    • @NurseAmamiya
      @NurseAmamiya 2 года назад +57

      @@12DAMDO true. Josuke only overpowered and weakened Kira, and then Jotaro incapacitated Kira, with the ambulance delivering the finishing blow

    • @samsausages36
      @samsausages36 2 года назад +2

      Jotaro is also dead

  • @animefan77
    @animefan77 2 года назад +426

    yeah, Kakyoin knew he would never be fully understood for having a Stand with normal outsiders who might hang out with him that would be targetted by Stand users- due to the ironclad rule that Stands attract other Stands- would see Kakyoin's actions with awkward distance at best or alienation of strong discrimination at worse. It's a lose-lose for Kakyoin, so he was isolated due to this inevitable reality. And in spite of his efforts, he was very depressed due to his loneliness, leading to DIO to take complete advantage of it to brainwash him to fight the Crusaders. He joined the group, had mishaps along the way, temporarily lost his eyes, lost two comrades, and then died himself wth his family only really learning about it a little while after his death. It's tragic, but at least with his death, it wouldn't be a pileup of tragedies like the remaining three.

    • @blueflare4139
      @blueflare4139 2 года назад +12

      Well he temporarily lost his eyes it’s not a good thing kakyoin had a tragic life but, I feel like if he was still alive he’d have a lot more friends and still hangout with jotaro and the trip made him grow as a person. so it wouldn’t have been so bad still the only people who dios remnants were targeting was jotaro and tbh he still would’ve died but he would’ve alongside jotaro.

  • @needee5324
    @needee5324 2 года назад +2671

    SPOILERS for Part 6:
    This is just a reminder that Joseph is still alive during the events of Part 6.
    That means when Pucci killed Jotaro, for a brief moment in time, Joseph became The First and The Final Stardust Crusader.

    • @hollow7500
      @hollow7500 2 года назад +58

      Polnareff still alive tho

    • @needee5324
      @needee5324 2 года назад +464

      @@hollow7500 If you haven't caught up to the end of Part 6, don't read this comment.
      Polnareff died at the end of Part 5 and his ghost is inside the room inside Coco Jumbo's shell. His ghost was still lingering at the end of Part 5, but Polnareff was still dead in every meaning of the word. He also said he was intending to pass on one day, but was sticking around inside the shell for just a little bit longer. We don't know if he would've passed on by the beginning of Part 6 or not.

    • @hollow7500
      @hollow7500 2 года назад +30

      @@needee5324 his ghost is alive... Doesn't mean hes dead bro

    • @Xed_13
      @Xed_13 2 года назад +244

      @@hollow7500 how alive can a ghost be? its literally just a floating soul no body or anything

    • @needee5324
      @needee5324 2 года назад +148

      @@hollow7500 I don't think you understand what a ghost is...
      Even if you wanted to argue that his consciousness still existing in the mortal world means he's alive, he still said he was only hanging around for a little while before choosing to pass into the afterlife.

  • @nagihiro1382
    @nagihiro1382 2 года назад +374

    Polnareff is easily one of the best written characters in the entire history of jojo

  • @LucemonFallenAngel
    @LucemonFallenAngel 2 года назад +48

    One of the worst parts of it all is that we saw Polnareff's smile fade away

  • @katzelol
    @katzelol 2 года назад +433

    I always felt so bad for polnareff, atleast let the man build polnareff land 😔

    • @jet_set8648
      @jet_set8648 2 года назад +1

      passione likely has the money to pull it off so its possible

    • @ahmed4363
      @ahmed4363 2 года назад +36

      im not 100% sure if this is true but i heard someone say that Araki said that in part 6, Giorno was visiting Disneyland.
      My headcannon is that he was searching on ways to make Polnareff land a reality.

    • @katzelol
      @katzelol 2 года назад +13

      @@ahmed4363 man I want that to be cannon

    • @KaaneDragonShinobi
      @KaaneDragonShinobi 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@ahmed4363 I hope Disneyland was a Golden Experience for him

    • @omegawimptronic6403
      @omegawimptronic6403 9 месяцев назад

      Giorno: * see’s entire world flip *
      This is fine… I don’t have to cancel it…

  • @lucasaugusto6021
    @lucasaugusto6021 2 года назад +247

    Regarding Polnareff I really find touching what F.F. Voice actress, Mariya Ise said when talking about why he is one of her favorite characters.
    "Polnareff seems less scared of dying than most people, which makes it really sad that those around him keep dying while he survives"

  • @teaganpatel3790
    @teaganpatel3790 2 года назад +472

    It is sad that after all of their travels, only two of the six crusaders got a truly happy ending. And those are the JoJos. Joseph was able to reconcile as much as he could with Josuke, and probably the rest of his family, we just don't see it. And Jotaro does get a happy ending, even if it only came to be through the meddling of Emporio. Which also brings up another thing. Technically, Pucci gave Jolene and Jotaro happier lives. If it weren't for Stone Ocean, and eventually Made in Heaven, Jolene would still resent Jotaro, and their relationship may have never healed. This was never Pucci's plan, but it still happened.

    • @awesome1ru
      @awesome1ru 2 года назад +6

      Is Jotaro still the same Jotaro after part 6 ending or did his name change like Jolene and the prison gang did

    • @blobofmeatwhoexist8460
      @blobofmeatwhoexist8460 2 года назад +35

      @@awesome1ru most likely still jotaro, the part 6 gang cahnge name because the erasure of pucci existence wildly effected their life while it doesn't effect jotaro life (earlier on at least)

    • @Dimassaputra14
      @Dimassaputra14 2 года назад +22

      @@awesome1ru might finally change his name to Qtaro

    • @AureliusLaurentius1099
      @AureliusLaurentius1099 2 года назад

      It is said that Jolyne had a healthier relationship with Jotaro hence why she isn't dating some random asshole

    • @imyourlilac
      @imyourlilac Год назад +1

      @@Dimassaputra14 I would love to see that happen

  • @grap_
    @grap_ 2 года назад +65

    I love your analysis of Jotaro so much. He is my favorite Jojo character and one of my favorite characters of all time, and I feel like you hit the nail on the head perfectly with the burden perpetually on his shoulders. He really does care deeply, he just doesn't feel like he has the time or ability to express it because of how many people are depending on him

  • @siblingstrytoplaynice-comm9029
    @siblingstrytoplaynice-comm9029 2 года назад +92

    The points that have stuck to me on Jotaro’s age shining through in his behavior from off the top of my head was when he was talking with the school nurse, when he pulled the trigger of the officers gun in the jail cell, and when he would do his party tricks for his friends, they always felt off in his character, but had a sense honesty into his character that showed that it’s how he truly is on the inside, a teen with not too many friends. But until you layed it out, it never truly connected for me.

  • @MaxAndStuff
    @MaxAndStuff 2 года назад +74

    Avdol: Dead
    Iggy: Dead
    Kakyoin: Dead
    Polnareff: Dead, became a ghost for a while
    Jotaro: Dead
    Joseph: "Likely still alive, albeit a little dumber"

    • @youyou3172
      @youyou3172 2 года назад +8

      Jotaro: Dead but alive in the reset universe

    • @GorillaFan_32
      @GorillaFan_32 2 года назад +9

      @@youyou3172 Araki confirmed that Joseph is still alive somehow.

    • @Lightdragon773
      @Lightdragon773 2 года назад +3

      @@GorillaFan_32 vampire blood

    • @ello3084
      @ello3084 2 года назад +1

      polnareff is a turtle boi

    • @ankanaguha8713
      @ankanaguha8713 2 года назад +3

      Jotaro is technically alive because of the ireneverse

  • @blackhawk3975
    @blackhawk3975 2 года назад +108

    "He's a typical 17 year old who doesn't understand social cues..." Bro, I'm 24 and I still struggle with social cues...

  • @susie1175
    @susie1175 2 года назад +158

    I almost forgot how tragic these guys are. The somewhat repetitive stand battles and overall mission to stop DIO distracted me the first time, but now that I’ve seen most of the other parts (currently on Jojolion), I realize they’re all been through a lot. Regarding Jotaro, I came to the understanding that he wanted to try and settle down after the whole Egypt incident. But being a stand user, he would risk endangering his family. Granted I don’t like the decision he made in distancing himself from his wife and Jolyne without telling them the truth, it was something that had to be done in order to prevent them from being dragged into the world he’s forever bound to

    • @lordpumpkinhead265
      @lordpumpkinhead265 Год назад +5

      He tried to explain it to Jolyne after she got Stone Free, but he could never truly explain it to his wife without sounding crazy. It's hard to believe that your husband has to leave you because of an entity that you cannot see and perceive attracts other people with the same entity, and these people may or may not have murderous intent.

  • @wheresprototype3507
    @wheresprototype3507 2 года назад +101

    It's sad, half of them died in part 3, iggy got dragged along and gained a respect for the crusaders but he died, Avdol... you said it best, Kakyoin was alone his entire life, Polneraff lost his limbs becoming a shadow of his former self and then died and now barely clings to the living world, Jotaro... he did his best but he couldn't protect everyone and he tried to separate himself from his daughter trying to save her but still failed, and Joeseph and not even knowing and might not even remember anything is simply just a old man, a relic that didn't die, the only living crusader even outliving his grandson... the crusaders became a tragedy

  • @Obi_The_Guard
    @Obi_The_Guard 2 года назад +39

    JoJo's changed my life. Everything from the characters and the story itself just resonated with me. And I think that you just expressed my view in this video as well, I agree with the way you explained the characters.
    Truthfully a legendary part of fiction and anime.

  • @grayphoenix861
    @grayphoenix861 2 года назад +55

    I once watched a video that showed Joseph outliving all of the crusaders, and remaining alone in the end, and I made a connection that was also pretty tragic. Joseph’s tarot card is the hermit, doomed to be forever on his own. Hence why his friends all died and yet he remains.

    • @noahball4671
      @noahball4671 11 месяцев назад +2

      Joseph might have died by part 6 but from what I've heard he took up hamon training again for the baby and is kinda close to his part 3 stats I guess

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 9 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@noahball4671He was confirmed still alive as of part 6, but somewhat mentally degraded again. Hamon sadly only slows aging and does not reverse it and bro is probably turning full senile by then.

  • @EvKindaGoofy15
    @EvKindaGoofy15 2 года назад +433

    I’m sad about Avdol, he was the black guy that dies first, twice. Not to mention my 3rd favorite character in the series

    • @fungamesandstuffwhy2516
      @fungamesandstuffwhy2516 2 года назад +17

      He's not black he's Egyptian

    • @terronaries2077
      @terronaries2077 2 года назад +133

      @@fungamesandstuffwhy2516 if you look up his race, it says Black Egyptian. There are different ethnicities in Egypt

    • @alihorda
      @alihorda 2 года назад +1

      @@fungamesandstuffwhy2516 he is still black lol, not like it is a problem

    • @TransMascTrump
      @TransMascTrump 2 года назад +65

      @@fungamesandstuffwhy2516 Egypt is apart of Africa

    • @asewuibv2
      @asewuibv2 2 года назад +5

      Actually, didn't the Dark Blue Moon guy or whoever die first?

  • @killerblodychuky6
    @killerblodychuky6 2 года назад +29

    i'm gonna say it
    i think the achtung baby arc was the peak of joseph as a character
    a lot of people will usually say one of his cool fights from previous parts
    and maybe i'm bias because my dad was in prison for most of my childhood
    but joseph and josuke coming to this realistic bonding understanding with each other where they care about each other, but for each other as people and stuff gets me everytime

    • @Jjbf006
      @Jjbf006 7 месяцев назад

      Joseph Joestar fought Klavier Gavin?

  • @generic8618
    @generic8618 2 года назад +163

    I don't think Jotaro made the world better, he beat the shit out of it

  • @marywallace3620
    @marywallace3620 2 года назад +38

    Polnareff deservers his own side series that tells what he was up to between Parts 3 and 5 cause just from the few flashbacks Polnareff had in Golden Wind, it seems like him and Jotaro went on another trip or two, investigating the Stand Arrows.

    • @lordpumpkinhead265
      @lordpumpkinhead265 Год назад +5

      Polnareff and Jotaro teamed up after Egypt to investigate the Stand Arrows with the help of the Speedwagon foundation. They both began their search in Egypt, then went to Italy, then Jotaro split off to go look elsewhere while Polnareff stayed behind. While he was in Italy, Diavolo caught onto his investigation and, fearing that it could expose his identity or cause future problems (which it did), decided to kill Polnareff. He miscalculated, however, and Polnareff somehow escaped with the beetle arrow and his life, but is forced to go into hiding without ANY possible way of contacting outside Italy since Passione has tapped the entire phone network in Italy.

  • @Calvin-uk8po
    @Calvin-uk8po 2 года назад +15

    I don’t know why I love the thumbnail so much I just feel like it really brings it all together I can’t stop looking at it

  • @sloth9204
    @sloth9204 2 года назад +80

    In the Jojo spin-off manga Crazy Diamond's Demonic Heartbreak one of the main characters is Kakyoin's cousin whose entire character motivation is to find out what happened to him. The last time she sees him was when DIO abducted him, then a year later she sees him dead on the news, Kakyoin's family had absolutely no idea what happened to him. She also gets Thoth.

    • @neko-love60
      @neko-love60 2 года назад +2

      @@Soupcat42 She's completely Kakyoin but female.

    • @polnareffswifeandgf
      @polnareffswifeandgf 2 года назад +5

      @@Soupcat42 she looks like a twin but she's just a cousin who copies his look

    • @lordpumpkinhead265
      @lordpumpkinhead265 Год назад +4

      Does she ever get the chance to interact with Jotaro or Joseph to learn Kakyoin's backstory?

    • @Ohyeahitsnotme
      @Ohyeahitsnotme Год назад +3

      I didn’t know that spin-off existed lmfao

  • @DinsRune
    @DinsRune 2 года назад +23

    The Stardust Crusaders were true heroes, dedicated to stopping evil wherever they could.
    Nobody ever said being a hero was easy.

  • @eladriladri
    @eladriladri 8 месяцев назад +8

    We need a polnaref spinoff about the full story of what happens between crusaders and Golden wind. That manga would be a gold mine

  • @CashMoneyZoom
    @CashMoneyZoom 2 года назад +142

    fun fact: joseph is the only crusader whos healthy and fine (polnareff is trapped in a turtle that aint fine)

    • @theblah4341
      @theblah4341 2 года назад +6

      *Crusader

    • @ello3084
      @ello3084 2 года назад +5

      idk man take it from someone who is a turtle this life is hella fine

    • @ahmed4363
      @ahmed4363 2 года назад +9

      @umar b after MiH, yes he is fine. but just before the singularity point and after the speed up (jotaros death). There was a moment where Joseph was the only crusader alive (Polnareff did say that he was going to leave the turtle and pass one day)

  • @Monochrome_227
    @Monochrome_227 Год назад +9

    It's sad that Kakyoin fought to the very end until he had nothing left, and at the moment of his death, his closest friends were there to watch him die; letting him see the people loves as he dies. That he lived his entire life without any friends until the crusaders found him, befriended him, and pretty much made him a part of their family. Giving Kakyoin what he wanted and giving him a reason to live. And the entirety of part 3 he fought for reason, he fought for his friends, he fought for what he loved most, he fought until he had nothing left to fight with. He's truly a depressing character.

  • @Alzeal07
    @Alzeal07 2 года назад +22

    jotaro was given huge responsibilities that he took so others wouldn't, gave up his existence trying to protect his most close ones far and safe from him as he knew danger would come, yet failed at this and died at the beginning of part 6 to protect his daughter he loves more than anything else but couldn't even watch grow up. A brilliant character that seems not to care but did more than any other to protect everyone.

  • @harrisontaylor7955
    @harrisontaylor7955 2 года назад +80

    Part 3 is my personal favorite part. I know that most people don’t like it as much compared to the other parts. I often have a hard time explaining why it’s my favorite, but I feel like you summed it up pretty well with this video. Great Job!

    • @Zontar82
      @Zontar82 2 года назад +3

      Part 3 Is the best story wise, stand wise , It has humour and action and the stands were full of originality. Part 4 already showed some creaks, from 5 onward It all went to shit

    • @iruma7277
      @iruma7277 2 года назад +2

      @@Zontar82 7 was good

    • @hate2284
      @hate2284 2 года назад +4

      I would put part 3 and 7 equally good. I love the story telling and character development in part 7, but I like the simple yet quite genius design of stands in part 3

    • @TheFirstCurse1
      @TheFirstCurse1 2 года назад

      It's my least favorite part by far. It feels like watching Dragon Ball. The story feels shoved to the side and it's just Stand battle after Stand battle. Almost every episode feels similar in terms of general layout: enemy Stand user appears! They can't beat them! But oh wait, someone (almost always Jotaro) figures out how to beat them! And down they go! On to the next enemy Stand user!
      I almost skipped halfway through it due to how boring and uninspired it felt. It was just terrible. The only good parts of Part 3 are the Hanged Man arc and the final DIO arc. Everything else was a slog.
      Now don't get me wrong, the story is there. It's just shoved completely to the side along with everything else that isn't just pure Stand combat.

    • @lordpumpkinhead265
      @lordpumpkinhead265 Год назад +2

      @@TheFirstCurse1 There's a reason for the constant assaults by Stand users though: DIO knew they'd be coming to Egypt and put Stand users in their path to try and kill them. He controlled one of the arrows at this point, so he probably made HUNDREDS of Stand users and just spread them out everywhere in hopes the Crusaders would run into one eventually. I think there's anywhere from a few hours to a few days since the previous Stand user encounters as the Crusaders slowly make ground.
      TL:DR There's a legitimate reason why there's an onslaught of Stand users that the Crusaders have to face.

  • @nobody_knows_what_im_doing1097
    @nobody_knows_what_im_doing1097 2 года назад +5

    Thank you so much for this video. I never fully realized how tragic the Stardust Crusaders were until this video, like I knew they didn’t have easy lives but I didn’t know how much they really went through. Because at first and on the surface level, all you see is 5 people (+a dog later on) going to fight someone in Egypt and they have a bunch of enemies to face on the way, but later it sinks in that these fights actually impact the characters more then we see and that they have a long lasting effect on them. Even years later, their 50 day trip would come back to haunt the ones that remain.
    You gave such a beautiful analysis on their characters, so thank you again

  • @myusername3689
    @myusername3689 Год назад +8

    Before Pucci died and all his actions got erased, only Polnareff and Joseph remained in the living world with Polneraff being in this weird bridge between life and death and Joseph being fully alive but degrading due to age.

  • @Pahlavan_
    @Pahlavan_ 2 года назад +15

    also about Jotaro consider how that pressure of having to teach himself rather than his father what it means to be a man expresses itself. Hes rude to his mother and easily annoyed because of that pressure.

  • @ironline6830
    @ironline6830 2 года назад +21

    These characters are always going to be among my favorites honestly they are just people I always wanted to know

  • @williambutcher7429
    @williambutcher7429 2 года назад +7

    “Joseph outlived all of the crusaders”
    My brother in Christ, are you aware of how long tortoises live for?

    • @blistertooth
      @blistertooth 2 года назад +3

      Polnareff is still dead. He’s a ghost inside a turtle.
      That aside, he also says he doesn’t plan to stay in Coco Jumbo forever and does intend to cross over.

    • @williambutcher7429
      @williambutcher7429 2 года назад

      @@blistertooth surviving in the body of a turtle is still surviving, dork.

  • @CartoonFlicker
    @CartoonFlicker 2 года назад +20

    Knowing the fact that Everyone dying in statdust crusaders died makes me feel grief

  • @leeoriba
    @leeoriba 2 года назад +19

    Im not gonna lie I cried when Kakyoin died, and I am not the type of person to cry when there is an emotional scene in a show but Kakyoin's death really hit me emotionally

  • @Beowulfr23
    @Beowulfr23 2 года назад +9

    I would say your analysis was spot on for ever one but hierophant green. I'm pretty sure it was stated he always felt like the odd one out of his family and classmates then his stand formed and he expressed gratitude because he didn't think of hierophant green as a stand but as his friend since the stand upon awakening was always their for him

  • @geoboat_9655
    @geoboat_9655 2 года назад +323

    considering the tangent sequences where your channel logo moves while you talk, are you technically a png tuber? also awesome insightful video

    • @crimsondragon2711
      @crimsondragon2711 2 года назад +42

      Nah,png video usually have gameplay in the background while annoyingly captioning every dumb joke they make lol. Plus his avatar/person isn’t on the screen every second of the video.

    • @purplish_blue
      @purplish_blue 2 года назад +24

      He’s to good to be pngtuber lol

    • @WowNoob333
      @WowNoob333 2 года назад +1

      Kool

    • @SaintOfTheEebyDeeby
      @SaintOfTheEebyDeeby 2 года назад +9

      Judging by the fact that pngtuber to me means a youtuber who uses an image or different images of a character to take their place instead of using a facecam.
      so yes, i thin

    • @mollalama
      @mollalama 2 года назад +4

      Bro just sit down

  • @lazy_biscuits08
    @lazy_biscuits08 2 года назад +10

    I've often seen people saying that they didn't like SC because it's too long and even I was shocked that I got through the 48 episodes without getting bored until I completed the entirety of JoJo and realised that SC has my favourite main cast. The characters were so endearing that I enjoyed every episode even if it had some boring fights.

  • @Xizax41325
    @Xizax41325 2 года назад +6

    Battle tendency is my favourite part just because of Joseph.
    Also that sweet, sweet pillarmen theme.

  • @silvero4472
    @silvero4472 Год назад +10

    The crusaders will always be the main protagonist of the whole jojo universe for me, Jotaro has been important in every damn part after that, Joseph is the reason we have part 4 and Polnareff played a very big role for the events in part 5

  • @ps_prague
    @ps_prague 2 года назад +14

    I consider hol horse as the wild card in the stardust crusaders, he was the only one that even tried to disobey dio, he even tried to fight enya so I think he’s the only that made out ok.

  • @ShadeShaadent
    @ShadeShaadent 2 года назад +8

    Jotaro like Jolene can’t ever seem to catch a break and it breaks my heart to see that in part 6, I havnt finished it but I know how it ends and frankly it’s depressing

  • @TheGreatCeltin
    @TheGreatCeltin 2 года назад +6

    The Songs here:
    Kakyoin's Tradegy:
    Song of Healing (zelda)
    1:30
    Joseph's Tradgedy;
    Zelda's song (zelda)

    • @randomusername266
      @randomusername266 2 года назад

      I’m almost 100% certain that the song used for Kakyoin’s tragedy is Midna’s theme from The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (could also be Midna’s lament idk, one of those two)

    • @TheGreatCeltin
      @TheGreatCeltin 2 года назад

      @@randomusername266 Yeah, I forgot cause I had not played both Majoras and twilight in a long time

  • @permatrago1845
    @permatrago1845 2 года назад +8

    Tragedy of Jotaro: His daughter join to the problem with dio and stands
    Tragedy of Polnareff: He turns into a turtle and so close to die
    Tragedy of Joseph: gets old and can't go with more womens.

  • @daisycutter2978
    @daisycutter2978 2 года назад +3

    just discovered this through recommendations. it was a great series. thanks. i’m going to go watch it again.

  • @VeryMid
    @VeryMid 2 года назад +11

    3:04 sad thing was that his parents (that we know for now) didn't know kakyoin died.. and thats sad as shit..

    • @BokuGlack
      @BokuGlack 6 месяцев назад

      The speedwagon foundation rescued his body and sent it to his parents I believe

  • @artars94
    @artars94 2 года назад +4

    Editor stroke gold with that Bleach OST ("Never Meant to Belong") during the Jotaro's part

  • @kalebdoesthings
    @kalebdoesthings 2 года назад +8

    Glad someone else noticed that the Crusaders kinda got screwed over pretty bad

  • @johnquach8821
    @johnquach8821 2 года назад +17

    This is very nice!
    Stardust Crusaders... it's ending I always felt was sad. DIO was defeated, but at what cost? (Tbf most Jojo endings have a bunch of casualties in the main cast by the end)
    Maybe a "Novel Kars: The most broken Jojo character ever"?

  • @brianjohnson5272
    @brianjohnson5272 2 года назад +10

    For Polnarev, he left everyone behind to find a life to live, apparently he never found it and instead devoted himself to the next generation of users. I feel that Naruto's sorrow and sadness is a good fit for him because he lost his sister, Avdol twice, then never found happiness in life just devoted himself to the duty of preparing the next generations.

  • @Jyoung850
    @Jyoung850 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's interesting I stumbled upon this video at this moment. Good stuff man 10/10

  • @HeavenAboveRtas
    @HeavenAboveRtas 2 года назад +6

    The tragedy of Joseph is how long he lived. Where you watch all your life and death friends die, your relatives... At that point, would you even want to live anymore?

  • @ProbablyHeavensDoor
    @ProbablyHeavensDoor 2 года назад +6

    jotaro and Joseph probably had the most pain.
    Jotaro had PTSD from dio, and not to mention, having the same type of stand as dio makes him realize he’s similar to the very person he hated. He watched the crusaders die, his daughter somewhat hated him for leaving, and it all started at a young age.
    Joseph was always seen as the jokester who’s always happy. When meeting grief he has to keep calm and just care for others. He watches his best friend die, got his hand cut off, watched the crusaders die, and messed up in Japan.
    the time he arrived in morioh is when josuke didnt need him, so you’re left with a sense of uselessness. he’s not even seen as a father there until he’s adopted achtung baby, but that’s extra.

  • @ShellyYum
    @ShellyYum 2 года назад +6

    Unrelated note to the video: I love all the Legend of Zelda music in the background, and the other video game music, too.

  • @joshhobs9257
    @joshhobs9257 Год назад +4

    At least jotaro's mum somewhat understood him to a degree and didn't hold any of the possible cold nature he gave off against him because that's how he is she knows he cared and didn't give up on him

  • @CreepyFrawley
    @CreepyFrawley 2 года назад +6

    Bro, 7:40 is quite possibly the most fabulous thing Polnareff has done

  • @thewarden9284
    @thewarden9284 2 года назад +17

    Whatever y'all say, Jotaro is the definition of Vigilante.

  • @joshnunya324
    @joshnunya324 2 года назад +8

    Shoutout to the 19 Page Kakyoin Backstory we never got
    Also Joseph is my favorite Jojo

  • @pajamapantsjack5874
    @pajamapantsjack5874 2 года назад +13

    This is not a story often told by the Jedi.

  • @DaFoolish1
    @DaFoolish1 Год назад

    I love these channels that actually put the time and effort for their videos this man explains it beautifully and he even edits the captions to make it actually make sense. You can likely tell a good RUclipsr from whether they make the captions make sense.

  • @updog9567
    @updog9567 8 месяцев назад +5

    A bit unrelated, but that's why you gotta appreciate the small things in life. Your everyday may be tiring, sad, unsatisfying, but that's how life is, no matter if you've accomplished a big goal or taken care of a long-lasted problem, new ones will start springing up and seemingly souring your just regained peace and happiness. The key is to find joy in mundane and bad. A little bit of fantasy also helps, but not too much - overexcessive escapism is a thing that will, sooner or later, only make your life miserable. Thats why you gotta have dreams, both big and small, because they're what gives us hope and our everyday duties give us a sense of accomplishment.
    What I mean is something like this: even if Jotaro (who's had it worse imo, alongside with Monsieur 5m haircut) had to isolate himself from his family and couldn't keep the people dear to him by his side due to the possibility of them being hurt, I think he still found some peace and happiness on his tremendous search for other stand users. Like eating good food or maybe going to an aquarium (he probably travelled all around the world so I imagine he'd visit aquariums all around the world to check out all the local species). He probably made some acquaintances, even if the bond wasn't super strong, it always helps to have someone honest by your side. And he travelled with polnareff for a bit after the event of SC, after all. Even if they seemingly lost contact somewhen/where before or after p4, they definitely had lots of fun.
    Don't let tragedy define you and your life. It's nice to let yourself feel sad and miserable, but life's not just about the bad things. Do things you like, reject the excessive escapism, accept the reality as it is and follow your dreams (as corny as it sounds). Be happy.

    • @Kira22558
      @Kira22558 8 месяцев назад +1

      Beautiful.

    • @Mahiii778
      @Mahiii778 6 месяцев назад +1

      True 🙏

  • @jonathanschmitt5762
    @jonathanschmitt5762 Год назад +3

    2:15 I think he was so introvert because he thought the other kids wouldn't understand him because they couldn't see his stand.

  • @nostalgianetwork1225
    @nostalgianetwork1225 2 года назад +4

    In the end, all was left was a turtle, old man and a dolphin loving father

  • @luanberisha8189
    @luanberisha8189 2 года назад +3

    5:20 zelda song, bro i love zelda‘s lullaby

  • @Kayo0Oo
    @Kayo0Oo Год назад

    this video really made me go deep down into my heart, and how many memories i have made along the journey of the crusaders, thank you, sometimes i miss the old stardust crusaders days

  • @imjotalmao
    @imjotalmao 2 года назад +11

    Its very sad that Joseph was the first Stardust Crusader and He turned out to be the last Stardust Crusader.

  • @felixflex4960
    @felixflex4960 2 года назад +13

    I saw a quote once about the crusaders that I really liked but forgot to save it. It described their end in a very poignant way. One of the lines read "the hierophant gave his last sermon." If anyone knows the entire quote please leave me a reply!

    • @Kurogami25
      @Kurogami25 2 года назад +1

      There’s like a poem or something at the bilibili comment section of those related videos, maybe that’s what you saw?(It’s Chinese though)

  • @bennybeck
    @bennybeck 2 года назад +9

    Twilight Princess and Chrono Trigger songs hittin me

  • @strawberrykeiku
    @strawberrykeiku 9 месяцев назад +2

    …imagine how Holly felt. Thank god she didn’t know about Jotaro’s death, that would’ve been heartbreaking

  • @UndertakerLockhartGrimReaper78
    @UndertakerLockhartGrimReaper78 2 года назад +2

    The one that surprised me the most is Jotaro when he begins his journey helping his friends and help his daughter and then dying on the place that he loved the most and makes me think
    An Edgy guy who didn't care about everything became a protector for his friends and family doing the best that he could do

  • @Ey3zJr
    @Ey3zJr 2 года назад +22

    this shit got me in my feels 😞 & the music is all to fitting.. i fucking love JoJos

    • @tjgarner6053
      @tjgarner6053 2 года назад

      Yes the music for the video is very fitting. I recognize it but for the life of me can't remember where it's from

    • @ThurstonWaffles-vg7zq
      @ThurstonWaffles-vg7zq 2 года назад

      The music for Jotaro is bleach. Never Meant to Belong by Shiro Sagisu

    • @tjgarner6053
      @tjgarner6053 2 года назад

      @@ThurstonWaffles-vg7zq thanxs!

  • @Kikidulus
    @Kikidulus 2 года назад +3

    2:35 i rlly can relate to that,but only that i got deppressions and my friends got them too.They share the simmilar problems and can just relate and understand it more then "normal" people.

  • @ninjaape7049
    @ninjaape7049 2 года назад +4

    This is one of those videos that really hurts to watch, Our beloved characters that we spent these 50 days with went from being super bizarre to becoming some of the most loved in the series, in the end most of them gave there lives to protect loved ones and friends, we get an insight later multiple times on how the remaining crusaders feel about there adventures with Polnareff's final moments flashing back to the adventures they had in Egypt, and multiple times in part 5 we see Jotaro looking at the photo of the crusaders and him never being able to see his daughter because he's constantly worried that something might happen because of how bad his PTSD got, Before those 50 days in Egypt Kakyoin states he had nothing and that these were the best of his life, I can only imagine what Josephs brain is like in parts 6 as in part 4 he's clearly going near insane as he's lost everyone, he's lost his best friend, his comrades and he was likely the person who had to be the one to tell Holy that Kakyoin and Avdol gave there lives to save her, Looking through all these moments really does make this a tragedy to think that Polnareff never ever see's Jotaro or Joseph ever again, these characters have lost everything plus more. On a side note I would like to add that one of the sadder moments in the series is when Silver Chariot cries when it dies in part 5, that really got me.

  • @nopwh
    @nopwh Год назад +2

    truly sad for Polnareff! he’s my favourite character in JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure - games too! whilst he used to be one of the only people who can wield 2 (or more) stands at the same time and one of the fastest stand users there are; he’s now one of the slowest animals. what a true tragic story, what a coincidence too.

  • @mossybro9847
    @mossybro9847 2 года назад +27

    The crusaders easily had the most tragic story. Avdol was sucked to the abyss in an instant. Iggy was brutally beaten to death. Kakyoin went without friends for 17 years and died shortly after meeting some. Jotaro had to live with PTSD and constant fear, and died trying to save his daughter (which was technically successful for roughly 2 minutes). Joseph lost every one of his best friends and went senile. Polnareff lost literally everything but his soul.
    None of these characters had a happy ending. While everyone dies at some point, it is terrifying that some of the strongest people we have met were lost so seemingly easily due to just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
    *That* is the tragedy of the Stardust Crusaders.

    • @c_sea1n
      @c_sea1n 7 месяцев назад

      Unless seeing this on a phone screen makes the text look bigger, that is infact an essay

    • @mossybro9847
      @mossybro9847 7 месяцев назад

      @@c_sea1n perchance

  • @Hexmonkey
    @Hexmonkey Год назад +5

    It’s sad cause I believe that the reason that none of them get a happy ending is how popular they were as a protagonist party, the writer just kept bringing them back cause everyone liked them but since they were no longer the protagonists they were relegated to losing over and over to make the new protagonists look better.

  • @jacobmosher-todd4489
    @jacobmosher-todd4489 2 года назад +8

    RIP to the English voice actor for Josuke

  • @thefanwithoutaface8105
    @thefanwithoutaface8105 2 года назад +4

    What sucks worst for Polnareff is if he'd run into Giorno sooner then he could've easily healed him and restored his body to full strength easily. We've already see he can easily recreate eyes, and other organs, plus Polnareff would get his fingers and toes that he'd previously lost as well.

  • @kiryukazuma7960
    @kiryukazuma7960 2 года назад +7

    The saddest thing is that neither Jotaro or Polnareff knew they both died.

  • @smursmur4148
    @smursmur4148 2 года назад +2

    The soundtrack for Jotaro part from 11:00 is Sad Bleach - Never Meant to belong

  • @JoFoAKAForteen
    @JoFoAKAForteen 2 года назад +17

    Man I missed this type of video from you, great video once again 🤧