Why Twitch is Going Through an Existential ADPOCALYPSE

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @MujinOfficial
    @MujinOfficial  24 дня назад +884

    Twitch has always been and will always be a hellhole, and this is coming from someone who's partnered on their website LOL
    Check it out for yourself and follow, I promise I won't invite a terr0rist on my stream: www.twitch.tv/mujinofficial

    • @ricardohoang8452
      @ricardohoang8452 24 дня назад +20

      Let it down more! They couldn't even be nice to vtubers like Ironmouse

    • @galactic6333
      @galactic6333 24 дня назад +3

      E

    • @kostakonomi
      @kostakonomi 24 дня назад +8

      Hay mujin i know its been a while from the last genshin video and you have lots of videos to do but i feel that your content gets a bit numb on the drama and controversies category and i thought if you can bring back the fun of madness and joy of the interactive map as it was considered a standard of your channels charm

    • @Indulgence82
      @Indulgence82 24 дня назад +5

      7:20 Denims was putting the bounty on Mark Kerns (former employee misreported at the breastmilk drinker @ Blizzard) who now reports on DEI in gaming (b/c of his experience firsthand on how it ruined his career) also known as Grummz on twitter/X not Asmongold. Asmongold took it that way because it was the marketable way and her comment was ambiguous but asmon was watching revsaysdesu who was reporting on the bounty put on Grummz head and she wanted to up the amount.

    • @lifelessgamingmy
      @lifelessgamingmy 24 дня назад +1

      It doesnt have to be profitable, it just have to survive so amazon can use it as a way to relief its taxes

  • @SmithOfGear92
    @SmithOfGear92 24 дня назад +2446

    "After giving it careful consideration... *I have decided to become worse."*
    - Twitch, absolutely

    • @ricardohoang8452
      @ricardohoang8452 24 дня назад +21

      For 17 years there! 😂

    • @Hanaaa1
      @Hanaaa1 24 дня назад +9

      Ehem youtube ehem

    • @chanr9531
      @chanr9531 24 дня назад +8

      Twitch is not satisfied with just hitting rock bottom, they’re determined to reach the earth’s core 😭

    • @Hanaaa1
      @Hanaaa1 24 дня назад +5

      @@chanr9531 still too shallow for their expectations.

    • @johnny6187
      @johnny6187 22 дня назад +1

      lol yep

  • @XDDisha
    @XDDisha 24 дня назад +3692

    Best year for mujin, never ending controversies 💀

    • @ricardohoang8452
      @ricardohoang8452 24 дня назад +71

      It also means more teatime for people to enjoy Mujin 😅

    • @kingaxolotl262
      @kingaxolotl262 24 дня назад +31

      mujin when theres a controversy *waits for a lot of info to come out then makes a well edited video about it* here comes the money

    • @lawjef
      @lawjef 24 дня назад +18

      True but 90% of villains have not been cancelled. So a win for Mujin and a loss for the rest of us

    • @nathandwiwidyanto8773
      @nathandwiwidyanto8773 24 дня назад +3

      Welcome to 2024

    • @nutthewhat
      @nutthewhat 24 дня назад

      Mujin's Never-Ending Notepad of Content

  • @jimmytsunami5275
    @jimmytsunami5275 24 дня назад +1444

    There is no favoritism in NIJISANJI? What’s next? There is no sexism on Twitch!? Who the hell allows completely nude women to stream with no problem? Not only that, who the hell shows a cam of a woman’s butt literally shaking while playing Genshin!?

    • @Jes9119
      @Jes9119 24 дня назад +144

      "There is no war in Ba Sing Se"

    • @conq1273
      @conq1273 24 дня назад +46

      "BIG BROTHER is watching you for your benefits"

    • @ectothermic
      @ectothermic 24 дня назад +47

      "The rules are enforced equally on Twitch." is a good one.

    • @localcryptid42
      @localcryptid42 24 дня назад +4

      There is no war in ba sing se

    • @gamingcodexarchives
      @gamingcodexarchives 24 дня назад +5

      "There is no spoon in a spoon kit"

  • @MandoMTL
    @MandoMTL 24 дня назад +1004

    The unskippable ads killed it for me. 30 seconds at the start of every stream and 2-3 min breaks is just nasty.

    • @ZuraJura
      @ZuraJura 24 дня назад +103

      I was watching stream yesterday. The guy multi stream both Twitch and RUclips. He had to pause several times in span of 30 minutes because of ads on twitch.
      He asked youtube chat "you guys getting ads?" And 90% replied a few ads but not a problem and then he said "oh cool because it was on aggressive ads mode" lmao
      Twitch ad is fucked

    • @Nameless_Miku
      @Nameless_Miku 24 дня назад +15

      You know that the streamers has mostly all the control on that right? I am a Twitch afíliate and you have all the options on your hand.
      It even has the option to not have ads at the first minutes of the stream

    • @ZuraJura
      @ZuraJura 24 дня назад +37

      @@Nameless_Miku that's not the issue. Twitch ads is one of the worse ads that ever exist. It's unskippable 30 seconds ads back to back and if you somehow refresh it will start over from beginning.
      Like you said streamer can opt out from showing ads in starts of stream but 90% of streamers won't do it.

    • @magicball3201
      @magicball3201 24 дня назад

      RUclips is also a company that has always been losing money. Twitch only runs so many ads because it desperately wants to be profitable. Google has seemingly accepted RUclips will lose money and has just tried to use it as a PR tool, while Twitch has been using too many ads, scaring people off, meaning they need more ads to compensate.
      It's still fucked, there should be a better solution. Unlike their ban history though, I see the logic in it

    • @rainblue4789
      @rainblue4789 24 дня назад +8

      ESPECIALLY so when the streamer in question isn't supposed to have pre-rolls, but you get them anyway

  • @shaicat
    @shaicat 24 дня назад +580

    years ago I was tempted to print out Twitch's TOS to use as toilet paper, but never did because I could honestly never expect it to wipe fairly.

  • @lks371
    @lks371 24 дня назад +3982

    Twitch not making a profit once in 17 years is crazy

    • @ZayyWithTheKs
      @ZayyWithTheKs 24 дня назад +104

      Are the operations cost that high? How is that possible?

    • @ricardohoang8452
      @ricardohoang8452 24 дня назад +27

      ​@@ZayyWithTheKs Because of ... bezos! Just like NW game 😂

    • @jojosworlds1208
      @jojosworlds1208 24 дня назад +226

      ​@@ZayyWithTheKsYeah, they are. Livestreaming ist extremely bandwidth and processing power hungry and the problem is, if you owning the infrastructure like Twitch does, you need to pay for the whole infrastructure even if not all of it is used, because they need to be ready if a bunch of people would suddenly start streaming. Kick pays for it by not giving a damm about the price, but who knows how long they can afford this.

    • @ZayyWithTheKs
      @ZayyWithTheKs 24 дня назад +28

      @jojosworlds1208 damn...3B revenue but no profit is wild 🤣 guess we know why they've been raising prices then.

    • @kyotheman69
      @kyotheman69 24 дня назад +30

      pretty obvious it no different from RUclips, RUclips is same for Google its money drainer

  • @Homiloko2
    @Homiloko2 24 дня назад +1393

    Everyone blames the unprofitability on the server costs and etc.. But have you ever thought it might just be grossly mismanaged?

    • @Dread2012death
      @Dread2012death 24 дня назад +79

      Like money funneling, nah surely not from mega corrupt companies.

    • @EndoftheBeginning17
      @EndoftheBeginning17 24 дня назад +43

      I go with the latter. They could take steps like create an atmosphere of a positive experience for all viewers, that would keep people on the site. If they got rid of those parts of the site that hurt the site. It seems to me that the negative aspects that existed 17 yrs ago still sit within the husk that is Twitch.

    • @sugarqbs
      @sugarqbs 24 дня назад

      amazon has it’s own web server providing service, so at best there could be some money magic going on where Amazon can claim it makes less profits and that affects its taxes? Idk much about finances or servers so that’s a guess and my only guess

    • @RWhite_
      @RWhite_ 24 дня назад +4

      Apparently there are roughly 2 million hours worth of streams on Twitch every day. That can cost Twitch anywhere from $0.20 to $2.00 per hour, plus an additional hourly fee depending on stream quality as well as how many viewers a stream has, and how long it lasts.

    • @Goosemon-l6n
      @Goosemon-l6n 24 дня назад +11

      Sass services are extremely profitable even considering massive networking costs. This business is mis managed. They dont understand their revenue streams and their risis

  • @thegnome87
    @thegnome87 24 дня назад +2770

    No way Pokimane got a slap on the wrist for opening the hub live and Shondo gets a ban for existing

    • @chaudspieler
      @chaudspieler 24 дня назад +387

      Pokimane gets away with everything because "DUR SHE'S OUR E THOT AND MAKES US MONEY DUUUURRRRR" but she left Twitch so they lost their golden goose already

    • @D4C_LoveTrain1
      @D4C_LoveTrain1 24 дня назад

      @@chaudspieler Pokimane is honestly the farthest thing from an e-thot lol, she just makes bank for them, hit me up when she starts bikini streams 😭😭

    • @Jes9119
      @Jes9119 24 дня назад

      they're just anime racist

    • @This.is.fineyep
      @This.is.fineyep 24 дня назад +15

      What does she do? Shondo I mean

    • @brotherkangaroo9945
      @brotherkangaroo9945 24 дня назад +131

      @@This.is.fineyepshe plays games and asmr

  • @JannieDaMannie
    @JannieDaMannie 24 дня назад +267

    They should stop calling it a ban. A ban is someone getting kicked out, gone, done-zo. While a suspension is getting SUSPENDED for a finite amount of mins/hrs/days/months/years. They should BAN them not SUSPEND them.

    • @goji5887
      @goji5887 22 дня назад +20

      Very true. If they decide beforehand how long the 'ban' is gonna be then it's not a ban, it's a suspension

    • @paroxysm6437
      @paroxysm6437 22 дня назад

      A ban can be for a limited time too, don’t know why you’re pressed about vocab 💀

    • @StochasticUniverse
      @StochasticUniverse 21 день назад +17

      Absolutely. I have always believed in the importance of this lexical distinction, which just got dropped somewhere on the internet about 15 years ago. People have forgotten the heft of the banhammer when it falls; it's a blow that you never rise up from again. It's permanent.

  • @SkullsNightshade
    @SkullsNightshade 24 дня назад +327

    I haven't been banned but I have 100% been subjected to favoritism both before and after becoming a VTuber. 10 years on the platform, I have reached "partner" requirements multiple times for 1-3 months in a row and STILL get rejected for partner with no reason other than the generic message. I hope people keep putting them on blast. AMAZING VIDEO!✨

    • @ectothermic
      @ectothermic 24 дня назад +19

      Good luck with your growing career dude.
      They've got a very clear bias and it's nothing new.

    • @SkullsNightshade
      @SkullsNightshade 24 дня назад +8

      @@ectothermic Thank you friend

    • @ggwp638BC
      @ggwp638BC 22 дня назад +4

      I mean, dude, not to be a dick about it, about if you reached requirements "3 months in a row", that's... not reaching requirements. The requirements are a floor to be eligible to apply, you're supposed to be above that with signs of growth to actually get partnered. I don't mean this to discourage you, I just want to help you contextualize things from a business perspective. Hope your channel keeps growing and you can make it on the platform.

    • @ectothermic
      @ectothermic 22 дня назад

      @@ggwp638BC I've watched several streamers including SmugAlana who took several attempts to get accepted despite growing very quickly. Steady growth, fast growth, scattered, doesn't matter. End of the day they'll give you shit if they feel like it. They even tricked Pyro who had a massive existing audience into being permanently removed from being able to become partnered.

  • @Sp1derBedo
    @Sp1derBedo 24 дня назад +863

    looks like a classic case of "the rules only apply if i don't like how you break them" type of situation

    • @siddharthyanamandra9427
      @siddharthyanamandra9427 24 дня назад +17

      Nooe, the rules only apply if you are not named Hasan

    • @Soulfin
      @Soulfin 23 дня назад

      @@siddharthyanamandra9427 or frogan, or pokimane, or honestly any woman youtuber especially if you are far left and/or shake your ass and fuck people too.

    • @N0TYALC
      @N0TYALC 12 дней назад +1

      See also: every single rule/law ever implemented in the history of mankind

  • @McChery369
    @McChery369 24 дня назад +961

    Dude, I only found you because of the genshin tecton drama. Totally glad I subbed for more, your content is amazing

    • @64siskat96
      @64siskat96 24 дня назад +2

      same here😂😂

    • @YounGenna
      @YounGenna 24 дня назад +1

      Naa fr i should just subscribe at this point he honestly deserves it😭🙏 even tho idc about drama like ts because i dont use twitch i still click on it coz its mujin😭 and ive watched a couple other vids too

    • @fatihaydynly5500
      @fatihaydynly5500 24 дня назад +1

      Was it gayshit vs sonic frontiers?

    • @aiztoh
      @aiztoh 24 дня назад

      @@fatihaydynly5500 I'm not sure what your talking about, yes

    • @iiiiiiiiiiiiililiiiiio
      @iiiiiiiiiiiiililiiiiio 24 дня назад

      I'm glad that pro palestinian like you are unbiased about this issue , mujin

  • @connormarshall1272
    @connormarshall1272 24 дня назад +1026

    Crazy hot take here: maybe racism / xenophobia against any group of people is bad!

    • @Re_V
      @Re_V 24 дня назад

      Except when it's against any race or group who is not mine!

    • @aylaprice5594
      @aylaprice5594 24 дня назад +32

      this tho

    • @marcuscaestus3583
      @marcuscaestus3583 24 дня назад

      All racism is bad, however, if a culture perpetuates a socially damaging practice, such as genital mutilation or genocide, I will not be crying a river if they're met with some xenophobia.

    • @Forumbug74
      @Forumbug74 24 дня назад +53

      Whaaaat. No way.

    • @Ashkihyena
      @Ashkihyena 24 дня назад +118

      Tell that to Hasan.

  • @gold_hampter4017
    @gold_hampter4017 23 дня назад +114

    I have to say as an Egyptian arab, most of these people are the reason our image is ruined in other's eyes. I do not respect the houthi's for injuring innocent people. Saying american soldiers deserve ptsd is also insane and i am disgusted by the people that use our name for insult and hatred. calling ludwig slurs for wanting to support the palestinians is also horrible. Sadly people generalize their acts across all arabs which hurts us to this day. what has twitch become

    • @donutbevil9669
      @donutbevil9669 18 дней назад +6

      The funniest thing is, Frogan and Ludwig were "friends" if I can even call them that now. When she heard he was planning to donate to Palestine, she would have expectedly grateful for such goodwill. Instead, she started saying the worst about him and that they didn't need _his_ money.

    • @michaelmon1337
      @michaelmon1337 18 дней назад +11

      My heart goes out to you bro. Just know even as someone who's family escaped nazi Germany I don't judge ppl any dif until they speak horrible things or do horrible actions. Everyone is just human and isn't responsible for the sins of their ancestors, just their own ability to do right. Imo.

  • @PomeloYT
    @PomeloYT 24 дня назад +81

    How the hell does Twitch keep jacking up the prices of subs and still not make a profit...

    • @RWhite_
      @RWhite_ 24 дня назад +8

      Because streams can cost the platform between $0.20 and $2.00 per hour, with additional costs per hour based on how many people are watching your stream. With an average of 2 MILLION hours streamed daily on the platform, I'm sure you can begin understand why the price of subs will never cover their operating costs.

    • @haoo549
      @haoo549 10 дней назад

      Because they are spend ALL those money to railed those thots

    • @paradoxzee6834
      @paradoxzee6834 8 дней назад +1

      More and more people are using twitch to stream, not only that but the quality of the videos are improving, you can find a 1080p 60fps capture card somewhat cheap.
      There are so many streamers who try to make streaming a full time job, streaming daily between 8h-10h. The cost to run Twitch are always increasing but it doesn't mean they are getting proportionally more money

  • @danielferrieri7434
    @danielferrieri7434 24 дня назад +638

    Mujin should talk about the Recent Pokémon Leak and The Nintendo vs Palworld Lawsuit
    Edit: Also The Funniest Thing Twitch did was allow Artistic Nudity on the Platform only to remove it days later.

    • @MrZithgal
      @MrZithgal 24 дня назад

      Not even a full day passed when they removed it. Even better, they left Vtubers banned for drawing cocks during that incident but unbanned everyone else

    • @beans1325
      @beans1325 24 дня назад +33

      Idk man he might get murked by the Nintendo secret service

    • @RWhite_
      @RWhite_ 24 дня назад +30

      What most people didn't notice, was that they didn't just allow Artistic Nudity, they also allowed a literal strip tease. And when I say they allowed a strip tease, I mean they specifically used Strip Teases as an example of the kind of content that would be allowed under the new rules. That isn't me reading between the lines and interpreting things uncharitably, that's Twitch themselves explicitly stating that you are allowed to livestream a literal strip tease.

    • @craptastic15
      @craptastic15 24 дня назад +1

      Ugh don’t remind me a trans women was the reason why vtubers are always crucified with rules like no showing naked hips in shit I think she was Malissa or Mar-something went all out with having her vtuber model naked sex on the corners of her stream and oh my gawd I think anyone could see the stream kid or no kid

    • @suspicion1352
      @suspicion1352 24 дня назад +3

      "only to remove it days later"
      It was just under 24 hours.

  • @brianwalsh1339
    @brianwalsh1339 24 дня назад +273

    Twitch’s CEO looks like the coomer wojak, and I will not have my mind changed on this.

    • @Artimidorus
      @Artimidorus 24 дня назад +75

      He literally is. He was showing off a new feature of Twitch and couldn't find a single safe video to show. He kept swiping and had to put his phone down because it was nothing but strippers all over 'Just Chatting' and other places they shouldn't be.

    • @BlastHeart96
      @BlastHeart96 24 дня назад +65

      Been saying this for years. Twitch is literally ran by lecherous old men that can’t get with the times. Especially for their vendetta against Vtubers.

    • @chanr9531
      @chanr9531 24 дня назад +30

      @@BlastHeart96yeah, when the coomer culture is top down coming from the literal top in the CEO, are we really that surprised at the double standards observed on Twitch for hot tub streamers and others?

    • @npickle54
      @npickle54 23 дня назад +11

      Once I saw that video of him scrolling through his twitch I realised why the female streamers get zero or little punishment in comparison to males

  • @DarkFrozenDepths
    @DarkFrozenDepths 24 дня назад +347

    Also side note, I honestly don't like Asmondgold.... he tends to say a lot of stuff without fully thinking.
    But to be fair, that $30,000 hit that was placed on him was WAY out of line.

    • @WingedAsarath
      @WingedAsarath 24 дня назад +27

      I agree. I remember when he started streaming Final Fantasy XIV and it caused a load of his viewerbase to try the game. The in-game chats and people you'd get matched with were flooded with toxic people for weeks before they either got themselves banned or quit. It says a lot about him if he attracts that sort of people.

    • @GreenDPS
      @GreenDPS 24 дня назад +62

      @@WingedAsarath speaking of Asmon hit pieces... it's probably not wise to pin the bad actions of others just because a streamer played their game. I happen to be one of those people that now plays FFXIV mostly because of Asmongold, and I still enjoy it to this day. I wasn't a WOW migrant, but I had played EQ for a long while before looking for a new MMO to play. From my personal experience, I didn't see the same 'flood' of toxic people that you say there was; in fact, I only encountered players which were extremely helpful when I was trying to learn the game. I feel like you are also discrediting the game from it's own merit by saying that the flood of new players was solely because of Asmongold - sure he had a bit of an impact, but with the WOW expansion at that time being poorly reviewed, plus a lot of people stuck at home due to COVID, and with the Endwalker patch soon approaching, FFXIV's audience hit the perfect storm of events that would lead to it's boon of players. So, to pin all the bad apples that came with that large boon on Asmongold seems really unfair, and I really disliked how a good portion of the FFXIV player base has that same take.

    • @RKNancy
      @RKNancy 24 дня назад +72

      I like listening to Asmongold. He gives me an insight into how an average American is both smart and stupid at the same time.

    • @AceUkiyoGeatsIX
      @AceUkiyoGeatsIX 24 дня назад

      Nah, he's a subhuman chud who deserves to be removed from the gene pool.

    • @PrincessofKeys
      @PrincessofKeys 24 дня назад +3

      I mean I still don't hate him or anything like that and I know he says stupid shit all the times that I don't agree with very unfortunate he had to say these things when he knew nothing about what's going on. He should've stayed away from anything to do with it.

  • @djinnspalace2119
    @djinnspalace2119 24 дня назад +64

    i dont think "mismanaged" captures the essence of what twitch is.
    the egirls are all basically the CEOs little pets that he keeps around to gawk at.
    the politics of the site are meant to reflect his own opinions.
    it is basically a website designed for the pleasure of one man, and others that think like him.

    • @RKNancy
      @RKNancy 23 дня назад +6

      That just makes this so much worse. I don't know what these women are thinking, tearing away at their own dignity at the first sign of money while the CEO sees them as his own property. Me thinks these women haven't got a person in life that would slap them into oblivion for shaking bobs and boots on stream. I know at least 20 people in my life who will slap me.

    • @wesleyleigh8590
      @wesleyleigh8590 23 дня назад

      this is probably the stupidest string of sentences i've read in a while life tf you even talking about.

    • @djinnspalace2119
      @djinnspalace2119 22 дня назад

      ​@@RKNancy truth is, i have never met a woman in my life that would degrade herself like that. these twitch girls are a tiny minority that have been given a bigger voice due to the platform encouraging their actions and promoting them.
      imo their values are scuffed. they value money above anything else, so as long as they make profit they dont care.
      seen many female streamers start twitch to get away from their corn past and start somewhat fresh, only to get right back into OF after a while.
      once you got the audience, corn is easy money. dirty money, but easy money.

  • @Eversimx
    @Eversimx 24 дня назад +225

    As an Arab and a yemeni I'm insanely disgusted by these people's behaviour and worst part that their mindset is very common between Arabs which makes me sad I don't have a problem with the Jews my problem lies with the government of Israel these ppl are just extremely immature and disgusting (also im not a hoothi or wtv I can't spell😕)

    • @illyaeater
      @illyaeater 24 дня назад +9

      so what you're saying is you're not like luffy?

    • @firstbinguser
      @firstbinguser 24 дня назад +1

      genuinely curious are u in the part of yemen or the government? I know most territory now belongs to the houthis unfortunately

    • @GSAnroedh
      @GSAnroedh 23 дня назад +7

      I hope you are safe and can make end meet given the local circumstances.

    • @axd2155
      @axd2155 23 дня назад +21

      ​@@firstbinguserhello so not all territory belongs to them only the north the south is a hot mess right now and the west is a warzone the east to be honest I am not sure
      (Yes I am from yemen and no I am not a houthi)

    • @firstbinguser
      @firstbinguser 23 дня назад +4

      @axd2155 thank u for informing me I was so curious but never came across any friendly people from yemen.

  • @freespeechisdead7233
    @freespeechisdead7233 24 дня назад +347

    17 years without profit!? How is that even possible!?
    More importantly, how is that even ALLOWED to happen!? 😂

    • @batboy555
      @batboy555 24 дня назад +25

      Have you heard of the wnba?

    • @SlavoidUkr
      @SlavoidUkr 24 дня назад +59

      As long as you can successfully lie to investors that one day you’ll be profitable, it is very possible. But 17 years is really damn impressive. Insane talent right there

    • @rogerelzenga4465
      @rogerelzenga4465 24 дня назад +6

      they get government grants to reach the non-profit level..... cant lose a propaganda machine....

    • @The_New_King_of_America
      @The_New_King_of_America 24 дня назад +21

      RUclips hasn't been profitable for 19 years, and it is still going.
      My guess is dark magic

    • @SlavoidUkr
      @SlavoidUkr 24 дня назад +13

      @@The_New_King_of_America RUclips is basically culturally important at this point. Twitch? Lol

  • @Oceanstalker
    @Oceanstalker 24 дня назад +140

    Hold up, I've been paying my subs and Twitch still has "No Profits?" For 17 years? How da hell is it still standing?!

    • @sapomen1352
      @sapomen1352 24 дня назад +32

      Amazon owns Twitch and Amazon makes like billions and billions without issues so i guess thats why?

    • @Oceanstalker
      @Oceanstalker 24 дня назад +3

      @@sapomen1352 Oh riiiiiiight

    • @almostanarchybro9129
      @almostanarchybro9129 24 дня назад +6

      Tech companies usually need big investors to build and gain profitability over the years. (Amazon took almost 2 decades before making a profit). The early investors of the 2000s at this point would be wondering about profit as it's evident which companies can grow. Twitch is in the same situation as reddit and tumblr, and while rich people own it, they are becoming bigger drains for the owners, so I imagine over the next few years platforms will fall to irrelevence.

    • @crazykim
      @crazykim 24 дня назад

      @@almostanarchybro9129 Nah, if it does some other rich person is gonna acquire it and put it to better use. Even if it was physically impossible for Twitch to be profitable, it'd be relatively easy to use Twitch to make other ventures much more profitable in some way.

    • @StochasticUniverse
      @StochasticUniverse 21 день назад

      @k.s.7919 That's only true if the propaganda helps Amazon sell more merchandise on their website, and I've never once seen a single ad for Amazon on Twitch, so I don't think that's true at all. Twitch is a genuine loss for Amazon, and the patience of top Amazon execs is probably very finite. At some point in the coming years, if Twitch doesn't actually turn a profit, I wouldn't at all be surprised if they just cut it loose, much as Microsoft pulled the plug on Mixer.
      You'll recall that there was a quarter about a year ago where AMZN reported an absolute loss for the quarter and it hit the fan. That's when Twitter first announced that they were going to be rolling out changes in revenue sharing such that most streamers would only get a 50% instead of the previous 70% -- there was obviously institutional pressure being put on Twitch to lose less money. AMZN's willingness to overlook Twitch's losses is inversely proportional to the size of the loss in the overall AMZN business empire. When times are good, they will tolerate Twitch's failure to be profitable, but the first time they aren't good, an avalanche of pressure will fall on Twitch immediately.

  • @codyconnor6981
    @codyconnor6981 24 дня назад +194

    I’m personally glad that RUclips, Twitch, and Kick are finally being pressured to enforce their TOS equally in a meaningful way.

  • @lordkanti8260
    @lordkanti8260 24 дня назад +43

    Scarra predicted that twitch was a money laundering business. He crunched the numbers and when he met to ceos he mentioned this as a joke and he didnt get laugh

  • @zeroanimation3956
    @zeroanimation3956 24 дня назад +236

    doesn't matter if you are Muslim or Jew or any religion, the moment they taste power and high in rank they will become assholes.

  • @nevembra9850
    @nevembra9850 24 дня назад +122

    Anyone else remember when most of the videos here was just about the Genshin interactive map?
    On a different note I'm genuinely grateful Mujin makes these videos cause I have no idea what is happening on the internet. Shit is confusing for me so this is a great way for me to stay informed and I can just listen as I'm doing other things 😂

    • @raihanrusli2720
      @raihanrusli2720 24 дня назад +1

      I think a lot of genshin (drama) content creator starts to branch out to make general drama videos lately

    • @nevembra9850
      @nevembra9850 24 дня назад +12

      @@raihanrusli2720 some streamers have been branching out into variety too, they still play Genshin just that they've added more games to their list. Anyways my point wasn't that he's doing less genshin but more so that it used to be harmless fun and memes.

    • @raihanrusli2720
      @raihanrusli2720 24 дня назад +2

      @@nevembra9850 yeah you are right. CCs tend to add more games if the game that made them famous dry. Its just that some of these CCs are genshin drama farmers (no bracket symbol this time) initially. What makes them famous is their coverage of dramas. Like we see, Mujin is one of them, although I praise him on how he covers it at least compared to general drama CCs, especially like anti wokes and stuff like that
      What makes them famous is not the games, its their drama coverages

    • @nevembra9850
      @nevembra9850 24 дня назад +4

      @@raihanrusli2720 I was talking about cc like BranOnline who prefers not to involve himself in drama and instead just have fun.
      And I do agree that Mujin does a great job of talking about things. He says what happened and while he adds his opinions on something being weird, he isn't trying to change anyone's mind about it.

    • @fendroca
      @fendroca 24 дня назад

      I remember the Yoimiya Body Pillow Vlog days xD

  • @Blackmamba_yellowfit
    @Blackmamba_yellowfit 24 дня назад +87

    17:02 so he’s ok with colonization when China does it? But America does it….

    • @crispi8809
      @crispi8809 24 дня назад +12

      the point is he said about the same thing azmond said no point in bringing other topics to the table.

    • @GOAE7777
      @GOAE7777 24 дня назад

      It's just typical lukewarm ignorance, right? It's like people that support Russia's invasion of Ukraine. They think Russia has a right to do this because Ukraine once belonged to the USSR. But this same logic can easily be applied to America; does Britain have a right to invade America because it once colonized here? Bet such people would get real pissed off if you point out this obvious flaw in their logic. It's ridiculous; I don't know why any change in country borders is permitted by anyone 2024. Well, in Russia's case I suppose it's the threat of nuclear weapons so we can only ever fight a proxy war against them now. This planet sure would be a better place if we could jail every sociopath.

    • @Blackmamba_yellowfit
      @Blackmamba_yellowfit 24 дня назад

      @@nikkonikkoshite I’ve heard plenty of his takes. He hates America. Done.

    • @OptimalToast
      @OptimalToast 22 дня назад

      ​@@crispi8809 Hasan and Asmon aren't even comparable, Hasan's always been a hypocritical racist moron.

    • @BlueBerry2283
      @BlueBerry2283 2 дня назад +1

      And the colonization of Africa was also doing them a service according to the same logic

  • @ArdanaMI
    @ArdanaMI 24 дня назад +198

    As a muslim I hate frogan and twitch should've banned her indefinitely.

    • @shanedoesyoutube8001
      @shanedoesyoutube8001 24 дня назад +10

      I would've thought you should've said something worse than twitch banning her

    • @CeeC_CeeC
      @CeeC_CeeC 24 дня назад +13

      They should ban her for having a cringy name as well…

    • @Voicelet
      @Voicelet 24 дня назад +7

      ​@@CeeC_CeeC idk about cringe, but frog is pretty apt.

    • @illyaeater
      @illyaeater 24 дня назад +6

      Hijabba the gut

    • @ZombieLincoln666
      @ZombieLincoln666 23 дня назад +16

      Yeah it’s terrible that she’s representing Muslims on there

  • @Blewdy
    @Blewdy 24 дня назад +37

    I don't even really like Asmon, but if he gets banned for saying that one thing and someone does something WAY worse that doesn't contribute anything, I expect them to be banned and banned even longer. Twitch's double standards are so stupid. you either punish everybody doing the bad things or don't punish them at all. there is no in between, you shouldn't be making exceptions for your biggest streamers, especially since you aren't even making a profit at all. This is how we get more people doing and saying stupid shit lmao

  • @haz6831
    @haz6831 11 дней назад +7

    In this day and age how do people not realise this is simply a tax write off for Amazon? The education of the general public is scary.

    • @AkameGaKillfan777
      @AkameGaKillfan777 9 дней назад

      Maybe because throwing around another phrase getting butchered by the internet isn't educational at all?

  • @vectory674
    @vectory674 24 дня назад +142

    That's why I don't like twitch. This platform festered toxicity and favoritism for YEARS without any consequences. They will get their due unless they finally stop trying to get away with unethical stuff

    • @vulpex4105
      @vulpex4105 20 дней назад +1

      Need Elon to come buy and destroy another toxic platform

  • @AppleBaron
    @AppleBaron 24 дня назад +164

    All this insanity aside, why do people still watch Twitch in the first place? You can't even go to any point of the stream freely, not to mention the insane amount of ads.

    • @twotruckslyrics
      @twotruckslyrics 24 дня назад +24

      i left twitch after getting an 8 ad long adbreak tbh

    • @thisislame2207
      @thisislame2207 24 дня назад +29

      Well adblockers usually deal with the twitch ads just like youtube ads, so that problem isn't usually a problem.
      As for anything else the main sum up is that Twitch doesn't really have any main competitors...just like youtube. RUclips's streaming platform from what I know still sucks more than Twitch's streaming platform.

    • @refkydarkzero9728
      @refkydarkzero9728 24 дня назад +14

      ​@@thisislame2207 I think it's generally on the west that RUclips streaming platform have been fall of. In my place at least in the SEA RUclips streaming platform are kinda huge here then Twitch.
      So I think it would be based on where your place are living in, if you in the West and probably in the Europe then Twitch are the main platform for streaming but in other places it would be RUclips and in China it would be Tencent video (Yes, Tencent also have a streaming platform).

    • @refkydarkzero9728
      @refkydarkzero9728 24 дня назад +6

      But if I wanted to really criticizing RUclips streaming platform is probably the notification. The notification for streaming platform are basically non existing on RUclips.

    • @joeyghostx
      @joeyghostx 24 дня назад

      Have you ever heard of pron addiction AppleBaron? You'd be surprise how much the loneliness epidemic fuels the machine for pigs.

  • @MelRetro
    @MelRetro 24 дня назад +385

    *Never wanted to join.*
    *Never will.*
    *Disgusting platform.*

    • @RinaRetro
      @RinaRetro 24 дня назад +22

      Seriously 😒

    • @NiJIcolaGirardI
      @NiJIcolaGirardI 24 дня назад +8

      underrated comment

    • @batboy555
      @batboy555 24 дня назад

      It's just a soft core porn site.

    • @shakgotgamez
      @shakgotgamez 24 дня назад +3

      and for those who did joined, it's never too late to quit forever.

    • @TheSutanian
      @TheSutanian 24 дня назад

      Evil staff

  • @irritatorgoner1087
    @irritatorgoner1087 24 дня назад +74

    "My body is a machine that turns controversies into content" -- Mujin, 2024

  • @NaipiaGaming
    @NaipiaGaming 24 дня назад +86

    Another example of how unhinged Frogan is would be her 9/11 baking stream tip donation goal. She planned to make the twin towers and planes with cake to recreate it. She wasn't banned for it either.

    • @bunnini
      @bunnini 24 дня назад +13

      The clip of this was just wild to listen to..

    • @stephenm707
      @stephenm707 22 дня назад +6

      People on the internet are so soft, your really gonna cry about a cake?

    • @Ashen_Night116
      @Ashen_Night116 22 дня назад

      @@stephenm707 I can see how you came to that conclusion, which means you have to be pretty low on the totem pole of intelligence.

  • @kirkshanghai
    @kirkshanghai 24 дня назад +160

    20:28 "you don't need to be a genius to see..." *Zooms in on XQC*
    Fucking lmao. Great video btw. Appreciate your objective take on really sensitive political issues man.

    • @Kenji_Myst
      @Kenji_Myst 23 дня назад +3

      Ngl I did the exact same thing 😂

  • @Primordial27707
    @Primordial27707 24 дня назад +502

    Twitch is becoming to political & worse. ☠️

    • @epictoe7179
      @epictoe7179 24 дня назад +38

      Don’t go full political, never goes well

    • @ricardohoang8452
      @ricardohoang8452 24 дня назад +28

      ​@@epictoe7179 Sadly, twitch biggest partners are ... hasanabi and his uncle! Uh-oh ... 😂

    • @nerrychael
      @nerrychael 24 дня назад +26

      Terrorist content should be deplatformed

    • @BiBiren
      @BiBiren 24 дня назад +3

      @@epictoe7179 a quote also goes well with family reunions. 25 year old me just talk to my younger cousin about just games

    • @chanr9531
      @chanr9531 24 дня назад

      Forget politics, they’re becoming extremists and supporting terrorists 💀💀

  • @RinaRetro
    @RinaRetro 24 дня назад +231

    *This website is an absolute Joke*

    • @MelRetro
      @MelRetro 24 дня назад +15

      It’s bad comedy

    • @kyotheman69
      @kyotheman69 24 дня назад +2

      wish they just shut it down already

    • @ricardohoang8452
      @ricardohoang8452 24 дня назад

      @@kyotheman69 Clancy will lead it 🤣

    • @chanr9531
      @chanr9531 24 дня назад +2

      They’re not even trying to hide the double standards anymore

    • @ricardohoang8452
      @ricardohoang8452 24 дня назад

      @@chanr9531 That's why they always got losses for 17 years 😂

  • @SoulKingdomCreator
    @SoulKingdomCreator 24 дня назад +15

    This is why I don’t like signing up for social media platforms or interacting on them too much. Either toxic communities or gross mismanagement like this.

  • @Eldr1tchGl1tch
    @Eldr1tchGl1tch 24 дня назад +107

    Being in the exact middle of the Palestinian Israeli issue both politically and physically is weird. One of my closest friends is in Israel and my own country is bombing where she lives. And Palestine is being turned into dust. It's awful for EVERYONE

    • @satiricgames2129
      @satiricgames2129 24 дня назад

      At palestinians homes are being ruined because they broke a ceasefire and they took hostages bro I don't know if you've painted Israel but I have and living under rocket fire is normal there imagine if you were living under rocket fire from people who you gave your f****** homeland to palestinians colonize their home land and yet they live in at currently

    • @PoliAstroN
      @PoliAstroN 24 дня назад +23

      Yeah well, maybe they shouldn't have attacked Israel in the first place. There are consequences to one's actions- as they say, fuck around find out. I feel bad for the innocents, but again, none of this would have happened if Israel didn't get attacked from 7 fronts.

    • @AnymMusic
      @AnymMusic 24 дня назад +58

      @@PoliAstroN Yeah well, maybe Israel shouldn't have accepted to take the land post-WWII. Cause let's be real here, Oct 7 wasn't an isolated incident without any reason

    • @Leahcolate
      @Leahcolate 24 дня назад

      @@PoliAstroN yeah maybe Israel shouldn't have displaced Palestinians from their own home land and b0mbd, un@lived and graped Palestinian woman and children prior to 0ct 7th.

    • @crazykim
      @crazykim 24 дня назад

      @@AnymMusic Yeah well, maybe Germany and the rest of the world shouldn't have persecuted the Jews to begin with.
      See what I'm doing here? It's almost like the chain of cause and consequence goes back hundreds if not thousands of years.

  • @catblanc5279
    @catblanc5279 24 дня назад +67

    Damn what a time to be up for a mujin vid

  • @DarkFrozenDepths
    @DarkFrozenDepths 24 дня назад +21

    Twitch honestly needs to get it's act together on many fronts....
    Constant screwups when you try to monopolize a market is only going to invite competition. Cause someone that's mad at them enough will say "I could do better" and actually make something

  • @errenhere
    @errenhere 24 дня назад +27

    if they have Bezos money and don’t have to worry about financial insecurities like other startups but could not capitalize and innovate even though they are the main wave of its industry, idk what to say other than I confidently think even Mujin could take care of the company better

  • @Zerome1997
    @Zerome1997 24 дня назад +80

    Btw an important thing to mention ADL is not a neutral group but it is an Israeli lobbying group

    • @oltimos8888
      @oltimos8888 24 дня назад

      They arent suppose to be neutral muhammad why would they be neutral when the other side want them dead?

    • @Zerome1997
      @Zerome1997 24 дня назад +28

      @@PoliAstroN wow your triggered that much by me stating one simple fact 😂 ,chill bro it's not that deep

    • @Serocco
      @Serocco 24 дня назад +8

      ​@@PoliAstroNThe ADL said Rashid al-Haddad is not a Houthi nor a pirate nor a terrorist.

    • @PoliAstroN
      @PoliAstroN 23 дня назад +4

      @@Zerome1997 People are dying. It is that deep. But I’m not surprised that you don’t care, seeing as that’s your profile picture. And I’m not triggered. I’m disappointed that your upbringing has caused you to behave and think the way you do today.

    • @wirelessbluestone5983
      @wirelessbluestone5983 22 дня назад

      @@Serocco
      Hadad is involved with the Houthis (why would he meet hostages on a seized ship). And Hasan assumed he was a Houthi when he did that interview. There’s a clip of him saying Rashid was media trained and that he was excited to interview a Houthi rebel.

  • @mehfoot8527
    @mehfoot8527 24 дня назад +78

    ADL is a lobby group that influences both political parties in the US, ADL is not ur friend

    • @oltimos8888
      @oltimos8888 24 дня назад

      What are they influencing? To not be a piece of shit? Womp womp adl is based

    • @PoliAstroN
      @PoliAstroN 24 дня назад +1

      And these rabid anti-semites are? What's your point here.

    • @Leahcolate
      @Leahcolate 24 дня назад +14

      Ikr. I don’t know why people are glorifying it so much

    • @yokaioni7863
      @yokaioni7863 24 дня назад +9

      ​@@Leahcolate Because they arent informed nor look into things themselves

    • @GOAE7777
      @GOAE7777 24 дня назад

      Yes, yes. Watchdogs, governments, political parties, companies, unions, charities, and people all can be corrupt and yet the ends can still justify the means as long as they are not rotten to the core. Any large organization containing people will contain some that are sociopaths, it's just probability and unfortunately human nature.

  • @everlynevins
    @everlynevins 24 дня назад +27

    I'm still annoyed that my JustinTv username was erased after it merged with Twitch.

  • @monsterhunteraeos2708
    @monsterhunteraeos2708 20 дней назад +8

    Can Twich remove the pool category? Enough is enough! Ever since it became a thing the system is broken and people are abusing and pushing the limits!!
    Get Rid Of The Pool/Beaches Category NOW!!!!

  • @abelvillalobos131
    @abelvillalobos131 22 дня назад +7

    "But it gets worse" my lord I live for that line drop in a mujin video😩🙏🏼

  • @SpunkMcKullins
    @SpunkMcKullins 24 дня назад +57

    Reminder that, any time you plan on referring to Twitch and anti-semitism, you should be referring to it as "Twitch, an Amazon company."

    • @dezinke3862
      @dezinke3862 24 дня назад

      A Jeff Bezos company who is a Zionist. Polarizing to extend the conflict ?

  • @Symhvileon
    @Symhvileon 24 дня назад +78

    to make a ethnicity tierlist is crazy.

    • @PoliAstroN
      @PoliAstroN 24 дня назад +24

      The craziest part is, like Mujin said in the video, if the tierlist was reversed, immediate action would have been taken. Because it's that side of the aisle, no repercussions.

    • @stephenm707
      @stephenm707 22 дня назад +1

      Good thing they didn't do that.

    • @PoliAstroN
      @PoliAstroN 17 дней назад +5

      @@stephenm707 they had a tierlist with ‘arab’ at the top and ‘jewish’ at the bottom. It is incredibly alarming that you don’t see it that way. You may be part of the problem.

    • @gachathis4858
      @gachathis4858 8 дней назад

      ​@@PoliAstroNthis guy has been through the comments.
      Dude is clearly a triggered something. Can't tell if it's racist or toxic person but he's a triggered Something

  • @karehaqt
    @karehaqt 24 дня назад +124

    It just boggles my mind that Amazon has allowed this to happen, they really need to clean house over at Twitch.

    • @Ashkihyena
      @Ashkihyena 24 дня назад +1

      I’m not surprised at all, why? Cause the people who run Amazon are just like the people who run Twitch.
      Idiots who take sides.

    • @robertdizzle649
      @robertdizzle649 24 дня назад +6

      Yeah, because their house is looking worse than Asmon's house. 😂

    • @curegear9650
      @curegear9650 22 дня назад +5

      In retrospect given that Amazon has plenty of skeletons in Their own closet I'm not surprised twitch is kind of a mess.

  • @kerriekermelcatlover7243
    @kerriekermelcatlover7243 24 дня назад +73

    Twitch needs to be reformed entirely. They need to either get their act together or dissolve entirely. 🤬

    • @kyotheman69
      @kyotheman69 24 дня назад +7

      they can shut it down, it won't be missed, youtube does same thing

    • @ufeelinselfrighteous8470
      @ufeelinselfrighteous8470 24 дня назад

      Nah. Its a garbage product, run by a garbage company, owned by another garbage company.
      Garbage in, Garbage out

    • @wesleyleigh8590
      @wesleyleigh8590 23 дня назад +2

      karen karening on main:

  • @chrisward9218
    @chrisward9218 24 дня назад +25

    It's really hard to feel sorry for Ethan in this situation. Don't get me wrong, what these Streamers are saying is absolutely disgusting and hateful. But they've been saying that stuff for years. Ethan only started objecting when their vitriol starting being aimed towards him. Let's not forget he's said some horrendous stuff as well.

  • @supermold
    @supermold 13 дней назад +2

    Twitch probably makes a profit but Amazon wants the AWS fees and the "losses" can offset gains from other divisions that Amazon also owns to reduce taxable income across the whole company, allowing them to carry forward tax losses to future years so they can reduce taxes in profitable periods... Probably.

  • @AZTARETU
    @AZTARETU 24 дня назад +23

    Lessons learned if you are Gamer streamer you better don't discuss anything that were outside of game topic like Religion, Ethnicity, Politics and genocide. Since you didn't really pay attention that much to the news so you better not say a word about it

    • @runajain5773
      @runajain5773 24 дня назад +4

      Or you have half knowledge about complex topic then do not talk or even mentioned about it

    • @AZTARETU
      @AZTARETU 24 дня назад +2

      @@runajain5773 exactly but I don't know why suddenly Asmongold recently talking about those things

    • @oltimos8888
      @oltimos8888 24 дня назад

      What genocide?

    • @RKNancy
      @RKNancy 23 дня назад +8

      Oh there's this theorycrafting streamer that I don't like at all. His theorycrafting is good, but my god he likes to delve into politics and strawman arguments when he's not gaming or theorycrafting. And even his game opinions outside of gameplay are horrible. People generally ask him to keep his mouth shut outside of theorycrafting.

    • @AZTARETU
      @AZTARETU 23 дня назад +2

      @@RKNancy sooner or later they might gone too far or accidentally saying something that will ruin their career

  • @dainserk
    @dainserk 24 дня назад +27

    I am politically active on socials, and I've carefully followed the development of what is happening in the last sections of this video.
    All. I'm going to say is that this is just the average kind of behavior that has been happening ever since the conflict started in Israel. Extremism of the worst kind on all sides, where both extremist sides just refuse to engage in any kind of positive, and useful political advocacy in favour of who's truly suffering, civilians of several countries.

    • @runajain5773
      @runajain5773 24 дня назад

      Yeh both side become then impossible who is bad or good both group are evil only civilian from side suffering from propaganda and death

    • @PoliAstroN
      @PoliAstroN 24 дня назад +1

      That is partly correct. However. Acting like a civil conversation is possible is horribly naive. You can't negotiate with t****ists. This war started because Israel got attacked, let me remind you.

  • @hoshi314
    @hoshi314 24 дня назад +39

    the funniest thing to me was Maximillian Dood starting to stream on RUclips as well and also 17 YEARS WITH NO PROFIT!? i want to know the reason why Twitch was not shut down AEONS ago!

    • @Violent_Wolfen
      @Violent_Wolfen 20 дней назад

      Probably the same reason why youtube still exists. It's there to keep competition from forming.

  • @echofiresoundwave5407
    @echofiresoundwave5407 24 дня назад +19

    What the hell is happening...
    This year feels like a fever dream I swear

    • @crazykim
      @crazykim 24 дня назад +2

      It's always this bad, we just get the funny man to talk about it now.

  • @michaelferguson1959
    @michaelferguson1959 23 дня назад +5

    Man that would make a lot of sense why music and talk show streams are usually front page

  • @Scarril_VT
    @Scarril_VT 24 дня назад +25

    At this point, cartels have better morals and clearer rules than Twitch.

  • @StudiosStarShine
    @StudiosStarShine 24 дня назад +40

    Who knew 2024 could get even wilder

  • @adamenvoyoftheend
    @adamenvoyoftheend 24 дня назад +8

    It amazes me that it took this long for Twitch to get this kinda uproar.

  • @ruseagull
    @ruseagull 24 дня назад +48

    Mujin, I like watching your videos, but political themes needs to be adressed in more details, depths than that. You stated that you are going to be neutral, but it didnt came off that way, and I would even say it's nearly impossible to be neutral while covering those themes. So honestly I would prefered either more serious in-depth videos or not engaging with subjects like this altogether. Of course, not hate whatsoever, just (personal) opinion

    • @nikielo7975
      @nikielo7975 23 дня назад +1

      Agreed, this video was full on Israel-Zionist perspective... really disgusting to watch.

    • @dalminehoff8985
      @dalminehoff8985 22 дня назад +1

      Let him cook, it feels like a personal stake is in this but not one lie was told. Its not biased to literally just talk about things that are actually happening

    • @nikielo7975
      @nikielo7975 22 дня назад +14

      @@dalminehoff8985 Except it was very biased and a lot of this story was covered with poor journalism and in bad faith.

    • @dalminehoff8985
      @dalminehoff8985 22 дня назад +2

      @@nikielo7975 literally nothing he said was false. Everything in this video is literally out there for you to go find. Its not made up and you could call it bad journalism because It does sound biased but you'd be insane to say it's bad faith. You sound like you're fresh out of a hasan stream

    • @nikielo7975
      @nikielo7975 22 дня назад +13

      @@dalminehoff8985 It is false. Bad journalism + being biased IS bad faith. Hope that helps!

  • @lastpringle8904
    @lastpringle8904 12 дней назад +1

    Can we stop saying "Even though they were friends, he still criticised his behaviour" because you're allowed to criticise your friends. If you don't, you're basically a Yes Man

  • @Otakufrog4ever
    @Otakufrog4ever 20 дней назад +1

    Bros dropping so much content thx for making me smile with your videos and informing me of the cruel world🙏

  • @thesauceguy1809
    @thesauceguy1809 24 дня назад +65

    I wish more people could have intellectual conversations instead of immediately dehumanizing other groups and ignoring underlying issues. I think it's important for people to understand that the US' actions in many foreign countries definitely constitute terrorism. The US is actively sending money to Israel to commit genocide against an oppressed group while simultaneously funding support for Ukraine which is facing a Russian invasion.
    As an American, I don't feel that the word "terrorist" has any weight to it because it's essentially thrown around towards groups that go against the US. I will always condemn violence against civilians, regardless of which side is committing the violence. The US dropping nuclear bombs on civilian cities was wrong; Israel killing massive amounts of civilians and journalists is wrong; Hamas attacking Israeli civilians was wrong; Houthis attacking civilian ships is wrong.
    Both Asmongold and Hasan dehumanize one side while downplaying/ignoring the issues of the other side. This is an easy habit to fall into, especially if you are uninformed. More effort should be put into treating people equally (hot take), solving underlying issues, and accurately informing the public on world events.

    • @emubeepboop
      @emubeepboop 24 дня назад +8

      good comment!

    • @TwistyKitty
      @TwistyKitty 24 дня назад +25

      Most sane comment here.
      I really wish more people would stop treating the conflict as black and white. Innocent people are dying on both sides. Their governments and leaders don't care, and anyone who says "well they voted for them so they are no better" has their head buried in the sand because benevolent dictatorships are a very real thing and a lot of them give their people the illusion of democracy. Citizens from both sides deserve compassion, not hate. They don't want what's happening.

    • @onionsoup3570
      @onionsoup3570 24 дня назад +1

      Facts

    • @thesauceguy1809
      @thesauceguy1809 24 дня назад

      @@TwistyKitty They say it as if the voting argument doesn't apply to the United States as well lol. Should I get attacked by people from another country for the genocide the US is funding?

    • @thesauceguy1809
      @thesauceguy1809 24 дня назад

      @@TwistyKitty The voting argument applies to the US too lol. Should I be attacked by people from another country because the US is funding a genocide? A large portion of Gaza is also very young.

  • @genericyoutuber1056
    @genericyoutuber1056 24 дня назад +16

    Taking backshots on Twitch is wild

  • @nyu1425
    @nyu1425 24 дня назад +10

    I'm not really active on twitch like at all but... Wow... The scale of this is crazy...

  • @Callisto_Arcas
    @Callisto_Arcas 24 дня назад +2

    Thank you so much for this informative video. I had heard things here & there, but didn't have the full scope. I recently closed my Twitch account but only because of the sub price increase. (I only followed a few streamers, 1-Lego, 2-gamers). I will def think twice before going back now, and am currently supporting the 3 channels thru other means, such as streamlabs & paypal donations.
    Thank you again for the info drop.

  • @cooltwittertag
    @cooltwittertag 2 дня назад +1

    Calling someone an extremist isnt an "objective statement". The only way to define someone as an extremist would be for them to partake in whats actually defined as extremism or for them to self define as extremist. I dont think he has done either.

  • @jamesjdog
    @jamesjdog 24 дня назад +18

    I remember the - Artistic Nudity, of December; what a Glorious Mess and Sh1t show that was.
    As do I also remember the - Free Lily and Free Yuniiho, Incident's, Sheeeesh

  • @stephaniejenkins7822
    @stephaniejenkins7822 21 день назад +4

    And this video clearly demonstrates why I won't touch Twitch with a 120ft bargepole, even if it was the last streaming site on the wide wide internet.

  • @HealingInsideMyMind
    @HealingInsideMyMind 18 дней назад +1

    Very informative and interesting! Thanks for posting this! ❤️

  • @doubleodoubleo7368
    @doubleodoubleo7368 24 дня назад +1

    You have a good way of highlighting just how extreme, horrible, catastrophic, and obscene these situations are

  • @marcusharris188
    @marcusharris188 24 дня назад +5

    That tier list is wild

  • @JeremyBX
    @JeremyBX 23 дня назад +4

    tbh it feels like "Twitch and its CEO are currently in MASSIVE trouble" for the past half a decade.

    • @Rodoet001
      @Rodoet001 21 день назад

      It has. Twitch is to the online space like Roman cement is to the history and archaeological community. I'm sure you've heard at some point that we've discovered this "new" formula to how the Romans made cement and it is "groundbreaking." Expect it isn't the first time it's been "discovered" and it has been known for a _very_ long time already, and we have already improved on their formula as our modern cement is better than theirs thanks to us having a more advanced understanding of chemistry.
      But it generates hype and interest in the historical and archaeological community and generates buzz for those outside of it to take a casual interest in those communities. A way to break slower periods, so to speak.
      Twitch is the same. As is X/Twitter. And in the past it was Facebook and RUclips. All of these platforms are "in trouble" and have a ton of drama and malpractice around them. And they do, but nothing is ever done about it. But it generates clicks and buzz so that people talk about it for a while. Helps people stay relevant in the algorithm until they can put out actually relevant content. Twitch just happens to be the latest popular topic that draws in interest.

  • @timeless1882
    @timeless1882 24 дня назад +33

    I agree with Asmongold's ban. What he said was wrong, and I hope he actually uses these days away from streaming to reflect more on himself and take care of his mental health.
    But I also agree that Hasan should be banned for his statements and behavior as well. Even though I'm a leftist, Hasan has gone way too far so many times. It's astonishing that he also has not been banned for his awful comments and behavior as well.

  • @CourtofDreams
    @CourtofDreams День назад

    Very interesting and informative, I don’t watch twitch bc they waste my time with unskippable ads.
    Also i appreciate the outro music, love that song.

  • @barcodedloser
    @barcodedloser 24 дня назад +2

    @24:28 thank you so much for saying that about Ethan. I feel like so many people don't understand his take and yet you said it perfectly!

  • @koizumiizumi5426
    @koizumiizumi5426 24 дня назад +4

    VRChat is in such a weird state for streaming: It's a catagory exempt from the IRL and Vtuber attire guidelines, even when most of the popular vrc streamers are making content more deserving of fansly or onlyfans.
    Seriously, VRChat with people emulating IRL movements more than regular VTubers get a free pass to be more sexually charged than the pools n beach catagory while dodging all the rules that should be applied for attire and sexual content,
    I dont care if people make porn, but keep it to the right places

  • @Kynatosh
    @Kynatosh 24 дня назад +9

    Not gonna lie, I don't believe this video to be that great. The whole first half is very lacking imo

  • @OldKingMaple
    @OldKingMaple 24 дня назад +15

    I would be careful making statements like "[Twitch] shows clear malicious intent," even though I agree that there is a double standard

  • @williscoleman9124
    @williscoleman9124 23 дня назад +1

    Wow this is crazy. Thanks for bringing this up.

  • @Con15
    @Con15 21 день назад +2

    Oh yes, there's no favoritism here. just ignore that a guy almost got a perma ban while a girl got pounded, temp banned and then comes back most likely to chat applauding her. Great

  • @HippieMoshpit
    @HippieMoshpit 22 дня назад +4

    Great video explaining the situation/history with all the needed proof.
    I still can't believe how twitch is so tolerant of literal terrorists and their endorsers.

  • @Crenzus
    @Crenzus 24 дня назад +47

    Watching this video I can't help but notice multiple glaring omissions that help contextualize many of the topics discussed. Viewing the entirety of this situation through an objective lens only helps to simplify the subject matter so that it isn't uncomfortable for people to talk about i.e. black and white, good vs evil, yada yada. I'm going to list out most of the information that was left out in the video.
    Firstly on the topic of the "Houthi Pirate", Rashid Al-Haddad has no confirmed ties to the Houthi movement. This has been reported on by multiple sites including Vice, Newsweek, Telegraph, Firstpost, and more I can list if need be. Even the ADL is unsure about his connection to the Houthi movement, labeling it as "unclear". Hasan also acknowledges him not being an actual pirate in the tweet you show at 13:35. It's also worth noting that Rashid Al-Haddad, 19, has lived out his entire childhood under war. At the start of the Yemeni civil war in 2014 he would have been around 8-9 years old. For over half his life he's only known famine, poverty, death, destruction and loss. I'm just going to reiterate that objective analysis on the situation completely omits ones background and preys on one to be perfect even under such horrific circumstances, lest they be labeled things such as a Houthi Pirate terrorist as discussed in the video. It is devoid of empathy and understanding, only benefiting the facilitation of a faceless evil like "Houthi Terrorist".
    TLDR: Rashid Al-Haddad is not a Houthi terrorist.
    Second on the topic of comparing what Asmon said to what Hasan said, it is disingenuous of Mujin to even insinuate that the two statements are close in terms of content. It is... ✨ *objectively* ✨ clear that Asmon is referring to the religious culture of Palestine, and when using this goes to the obvious extreme of characterizing those being massacred as stereotypical savages, an inferior culture that deserves the genocide they are facing. The clip used by Mujin conveniently cuts off before Hasan says that "abolishing warlords and slavery" *from* the culture is a good thing (2:09:45 on Leftovers #58), which doesn't seem the slightest bit similar to Asmon's "inferior culture as a whole" rant. Now obviously the consequences of annexation, and the conversation of serfdom vs slavery are far too complex to talk about here, but the point is that Hasan didn't even graze the sun when talking about Tibetan culture as a whole. I don't understand how Mujin came to this conclusion on his own beyond people bringing up the clip, but it is what it is.
    TLDR: Asmon said Palestinians deserve to get massacred. Hasan said warlords and slavery are bad.
    Third on the topic of Fr0gan, once again objectivity fails to fully encapsulate the situation. Fr0gan is half-Lebanese half-white (potential cracker pass permitted (joke)), and I believe has family residing in Lebanon, which is an enemy of Israel. Considering such a background, it doesn't take a genius to conceptualize why one would be angered by leniency towards Pro-Palestinian opposition. Calling Ludwig's allowance of opposition a "cracker-ass take" is literally just acknowledging Ludwig taking on a pro-Palestinian stance but also beating around the bush of viewers that would be opposed to that. Ludwig is a very safe content creator. This is an example of him playing it safe. She is commenting on that. It is not that hard. Cracker = White, White = Privilege. It's also weird how she is characterized in this video through the rent goal, painting the picture of a beggar who contributes nothing to the Palestinian movement as if money is the only thing of value for said cause. She's attended multiple pro-Palestinian protests, is consistently talking about the subject matter and is also part of a podcast that focuses on Arab culture. I understand the kneejerk reaction to comments she's made like those in the video, as the entire background of someone was washed away, creating cherrypicked clips devoid of context.
    TLDR: Fr0gan is Lebanese, has family in Lebanon. Israel is destroying Palestine. Israel is now bombing Lebanon. I'd be mad too.
    And lastly, the Ayyrabs live show. Right off the bat it's labeled as an ethnicity tier list by Mujin which was not said once during the entire show. It seems this is where the power of objectivity left the room. As Mujin said it's ranked based on how streamers would react to saying the word Habibi. Everything appears fine until the "Loves Sabra" tier comes in. Sabra, being a popular Middle Eastern hummus brand, and widely regarded as trash hummus. Mujin says it's fairly straight-forward to assume Sabra in the context of the tier list means Jew, but that quickly falls apart if you look at the... *objective*... facts. The final tier list is all over the place with non-Arabs in Arab, Sneako in Loves Sabra (Who converted to Islam, grift or not), non-Jewish people in the Loves Sabra category. Even Denims, one of the participants of the show was put in Loves Sabra. This is probably the only instance in the video where looking at the subject from an objective point of view makes sense, yet it's the only one where that's not the case.
    TLDR: Sabra is shit hummus.
    Overall this video is so disappointing, and objectivity is framed as this do-no-wrong way of interpreting a vastly complex situation with people who are personally affected by the issues abroad. It even goes so far as to source dancantstream who recorded himself asking viewers to personally brigade legal avenues like congressmen, requesting that they report Hasan "for content". If I were to detail everything wrong about Dan, his friends and their communities, this already-nauseatingly long comment would be as long as Destiny's n-word manifesto. If Mujin wants to cover internet communities that are problematic, I'd suggest he starts with Kick.com or the rabbit hole of dancantstream and friends. Though this video was disheartening and had a vague air of bias, given all that I've said.
    TLDR: Do more research.

    • @Serocco
      @Serocco 24 дня назад +19

      Please make a video about this, Mujin needs to be dragged through the coal mines for this

    • @raneemh.3589
      @raneemh.3589 24 дня назад +28

      thank you!!! I thought I was losing my mind because halfway through I thought “hey this isn’t very objective” but everyone in the comments was glazing him 😭

    • @Khazar321
      @Khazar321 24 дня назад +8

      @@raneemh.3589 this isn’t objective either, besides the pirate thing, the only thing you guys are doing, is defending subjectively your own team.
      Your own bias is so extremely obvious it’s not even funny, maybe look in the mirror and realize what kind of person you have become that you are doing anything to make one side look good and the other side bad.

    • @Khazar321
      @Khazar321 24 дня назад

      @@Crenzus you are disgusting hiding your own bias as “objective” and “facts”. Besides the pirate thing, this is nothing but trying your best to make one side look good that you agree with and one side you don’t agree with look bad, good job.
      I absolutely despise Ludwig and yet your points about that situation is just pure bias and has nothing to do with reality.
      If a half white person would have denounced the South Africa killings, you would be first to ape ignorance and racism.
      Absolute pathetic favoritism and bending of interpretation to create “facts” to fit your own narrative. Rules for thee but not for me.
      Do better yourself, before you ask others the same.

    • @raneemh.3589
      @raneemh.3589 24 дня назад +13

      @@Khazar321 I just reread the comment and I can’t see any subjectivity, do you mind elaborating?

  • @DoobiousCreature
    @DoobiousCreature 21 день назад +5

    What is it with Hasans ruining Twitch?
    First Hassan, now Hasan.

  • @kesatoria7176
    @kesatoria7176 21 день назад +4

    the Hassan(and his friends)/Asmongold controversy is insane tbh it clearly showed the website is ruled by peoples with an agenda, if one is banned both should be.

  • @SmokinGoodd420
    @SmokinGoodd420 21 день назад

    I digress from my previous two comments, @mujin thank you for an amazing video! appreciate objective content, regarding journalism. Hope your doing well and will be waiting for your next video soon enough! Cheers!

  • @projectbrs4860
    @projectbrs4860 24 дня назад +19

    Uh oh Dan Clancy might want to get out of his goon cave for 5 seconds and do something

  • @malfegore_7043
    @malfegore_7043 23 дня назад +20

    22:52 I think you're conflating Jews and Israelites because of Sabra. Not all Jews are Israelites, and not all Israelites are Jews. That is how Israel's government protects itself from criticism for doing unspeakable acts on the region.

    • @Amitqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq2qqqq
      @Amitqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq2qqqq 22 дня назад +5

      welp that is wrong, the cases for antisemitic crime skyrocketed since 7.10 even if it's not an isreali but a jew. second, the one who was mentioned next in the love sabra category isn't even isreali xD. he is a American jew who have a isreali citizenship (by isreali law if u are jew u can have citizenship) so no. he is not conflicting them

    • @Rodoet001
      @Rodoet001 21 день назад +2

      I don't think it's him conflating it because that entire panel had strong undertones of doing just that conflation. You are right, but the people in question does not see it that way, they absolutely conflate the two. Doesn't help that most of them have expressed blatant anti-Semitic opinions and rhetoric.

  • @shinypaintf588
    @shinypaintf588 24 дня назад +20

    yo wait that asmondgold thing was for real? like he was saying something so horrible 100% unironically? What the fuck? Even if it was ironic it would be so horrible but the fact that it's unironic is fucking insane

    • @shayneyne
      @shayneyne 24 дня назад +1

      Well, it did happen but before that there was a conversation that sparked that comment. And was omitted here to not be biased towards asmon.

    • @shinypaintf588
      @shinypaintf588 24 дня назад

      @@shayneyne Tbh insane anyway but this video is trash so i don't care either way.

    • @gablam-7947
      @gablam-7947 23 дня назад +5

      He is right about the culture , he fucked up on the generalization of palestinians

    • @justsomelizardwithatophat.367
      @justsomelizardwithatophat.367 14 дней назад

      @@gablam-7947he was always talking about shiara law he even said it earlier he just did a bad job clarifying his point and used bad wording, never say “inferior” when describing a group. It’s a bad look.

  • @MIDO44444
    @MIDO44444 12 дней назад +1

    Say whatever you want about how bad twitter became , you cant deny community notes are mvp in every drama

  • @Nadia1989
    @Nadia1989 24 дня назад +1

    Not to mention the difficulties to get paid, or the constant banning of V-tubers. For example, Dankpods, who is an Australian drummer and teacher turned RUclipsr, moved his streams to Floatplane because he couldn't get his rightfully earned money.

  • @wellread8649
    @wellread8649 24 дня назад +14

    "Twitch and amazon are antisemitic. I have no intention of taking either side." Very classy. Sitting on the racism fence.

  • @StochasticUniverse
    @StochasticUniverse 21 день назад +3

    0:32 "[Twitch] has never been profitable after 17 years of existence"
    That's actually normal for online platforms, though. Snapchat has never been profitable on an aggregate basis, and it famously issued forward guidance to its investors back in 2017 that it would "probably never reach sustained profitability". Twitter had been losing so much money that Elon tried to back out of buying the company after he agreed, but he screwed himself and had to close the deal, anyway. (It has only continued to lose more money since he bought it.)
    The only online platforms that we know for a fact are profitable are Facebook/Instagram (which share ownership), TikTok (which is getting banned in the US in just a few months, which will cost it its most profitable market, though it will probably remain in the black, albeit at slimmer margins), and RUclips. EVERY platform other than those is losing money and has always lost money. The internet isn't paved with gold the way that people imagine it to be.

    • @Rodoet001
      @Rodoet001 21 день назад

      Doesn't youtube also kind of flicker in and out of profitability, but google is big enough it can afford it? I seem to recall reading somewhere that was the case.

    • @sirmel11
      @sirmel11 21 день назад

      Is Tik Tok going to get banned? I doubt it.

    • @AkameGaKillfan777
      @AkameGaKillfan777 9 дней назад +1

      TikTok will only get banned in the U.S. if it doesn't get sold. Even then, you can still access it through VPNs.

  • @anonymous4068
    @anonymous4068 24 дня назад +13

    Twitch doesn't deserve my money. I watch streams since 2015 and I have never bought any subs or bits. I have sinned though, I gifted 1 sub to a girl

  • @farv7596
    @farv7596 21 день назад +2

    Pewdiepie was right all along twitch has double standard

  • @johngrizzard2
    @johngrizzard2 2 дня назад +2

    Dan Clancy Is a champ. Dan all the way or nothing.