The Chapecoense Disaster - LaMia Flight 2933

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    LaMia Flight 2933 was a charter flight of an Avro RJ85, operated by LaMia, on 28 November 2016
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  • @OfficialMuffiin
    @OfficialMuffiin 5 лет назад +267

    The silence of no engines is terrifying, what a preventable tragedy.

  • @davidmoore1253
    @davidmoore1253 5 лет назад +384

    This has to be one of the stupidest crashes ever. No technical problems, good weather, just sheer incompetence and neglect!

    • @davesmith5656
      @davesmith5656 5 лет назад +63

      The chick in Bolivia got my read immediately: she just rattled something off without checking first. But the blame is on the pilot. He should have said he needed a refueling stop because destination was beyond the aircraft's range, and she would have come to reality and arranged it. The second mistake was noted in the official report, late notification of the critical fuel situation. A more aggressive and alert pilot might have throttled w-a-y back at 28,000 and semi-glided down as far as he could, nursing the fuel as much as possible. Socialism strikes again: a passive attitude. People who think being "strong, silent, uncomplaining, disciplined, and routine" is "socially correct", as if everything were a Tweet ... I have learned to steer clear of them because underneath that silence is uncertainty.

    • @AdamHarveyMusic
      @AdamHarveyMusic 5 лет назад +51

      Dave Smith that is quite simply the dumbest thing I’ve read in a good long while. You would appear to know a very little about planes, less about socialism, even less about South American politics and nothing whatsoever about rational argument.

    • @Love-wp6ze
      @Love-wp6ze 5 лет назад +4

      David Moore This is why I won’t ride on planes. We’re too high up in the air for that dumb shit.

    • @johndouglas5712
      @johndouglas5712 5 лет назад +21

      @@davesmith5656 I agree with you . These countries are a disaster and I never seen a more half assed flight ! These clowns even beat the Asians . Delayed to get a video game ? And those controllers ! God help us , I just hope President Trump did'nt get here too late

    • @davesmith5656
      @davesmith5656 5 лет назад +11

      @@AdamHarveyMusic - You and the loudmouths above - I don't see any argument at all in any of your insulting and vacant "comments". Any goofball can roll off bad names he's heard and parrot "You're wrong!!" with no sense at all of what he's saying, and no effort at all to make contact with any reality other than his own isolated excuse for a world. Go take a cold shower, lamebrain.

  • @ichcoolichdani
    @ichcoolichdani 5 лет назад +134

    That poor fuel planning is just unforgivable and infuriating, it's not like there aren't rules and regulations for that. ICAO regulations state that you need enough fuel for, taxi, takeoff, trip, landing, missed approach, the trip to alternate, circling for 30 min + contingency which is 5% of trip fuel. They just ignored it all, hoped for the best and paid for there negligence with there lives and that of innocent passengers...

    • @bonniemcmaken3966
      @bonniemcmaken3966 5 лет назад +9

      I watched a documentary on this once. The airline was notorious for cutting costs by not fueling planes adequately. Despite the other factors, that one came out after this incident.

    • @drew9172
      @drew9172 5 лет назад +6

      And that’s during the day. Here at night they need 45 min. No excuse for this to happen

  • @petetube99
    @petetube99 4 года назад +22

    That poor controller. Given an impossible task she was efficient and professional, even when she lost their radar she tried to estimate vectors.

  • @michaelstern1945
    @michaelstern1945 5 лет назад +362

    A shame it was totally preventable.

    • @harryscrotum007
      @harryscrotum007 5 лет назад +2

      Every crash is...

    • @drteeth7054
      @drteeth7054 5 лет назад +14

      @@harryscrotum007 Not every flight, shit happens! Hindsight is 20:20.

    • @harryscrotum007
      @harryscrotum007 5 лет назад

      @@drteeth7054 how is every crash not preventable? Has their been a plane to spontaneously combust or magically vaporize before? Every crash is preventable...

    • @JerBuster77
      @JerBuster77 5 лет назад +3

      @@harryscrotum007 Well that's stating the obvious. But in reality sometimes shit does just happen. Go ask Captain Sully about that.

    • @illisvellamae9399
      @illisvellamae9399 5 лет назад +16

      Given the reckless and irresponsible disposition by the airline and crew, it was more like inevitable. It´s a standard requirement for the aircraft to have enough fuel to reach the destination plus for the possible deviation to another designated airport plus another 30 minutes worth. These guys were just playing with fire and courting disaster. And a barrage of mistakes, violations and oversights to boot; totally scandalous.

  • @ramoncardinali
    @ramoncardinali 5 лет назад +138

    Chapecoense was also declared champion of Copa Sudamericana 2016. It was one of the saddest days ever here in Brazil (and i guess in Colombia).

    • @jaemelo2693
      @jaemelo2693 5 лет назад +11

      I know right... even worse they came up from serie b to a and looked stronger that season then all the other teams in our league.. If they would've landed they probably would've won anyway.

    • @sparkymax4290
      @sparkymax4290 5 лет назад

      Regular national heroes I guess. Pfffft. Bunch of goddamn soccer players, who cares?

    • @hansyork488
      @hansyork488 5 лет назад

      MauricioPc Channel is the best

    • @adultgohan2498
      @adultgohan2498 5 лет назад +4

      Sparky max bro they were in low L4 which is low level for other team but they worked so hard in 5 years to get upper level. That’s why they should earn some respect and same thing for other people who died.

    • @karenswafford5757
      @karenswafford5757 4 года назад +7

      Sparky max you’re a true piece of shit

  • @Santiago-lb5md
    @Santiago-lb5md 5 лет назад +94

    Man, i remember that like yesterday. Medellín (where i live) went silent for almost a week! Normaly in my city do the "alborada" (that is made in the night of the 1st of december, they trow a lot of fireworks) it was the 1st time in almost two decades that the whole city went silent, and how forget the memorial in the stadium, was full just 15 mins after the doors opened to the public, how sad and mindblowing was that...

    • @claasnorden9909
      @claasnorden9909 5 лет назад +4

      Hey Pablo what's up with the cocaine buissnes?

    • @manuelbonet
      @manuelbonet 5 лет назад +24

      @@claasnorden9909 That's the most disrespectful comment I've read in a while.

    • @claasnorden9909
      @claasnorden9909 5 лет назад +2

      @@manuelbonet i know the guys from Cali make some trubble but your Time will come

    • @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043
      @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 5 лет назад

      SantiGoma • Wow. I imagine that nobody really wanted to play after what happened. I know I wouldn’t.

    • @robertocartomano7734
      @robertocartomano7734 5 лет назад

      Me too, I live in Brazil and I recieved the news from whatsapp, I thought it was fake news but it was from the most famous news website in Brazil

  • @Platyfurmany
    @Platyfurmany 5 лет назад +61

    The moral of this tragedy is NEVER, EVER, pass up a chance to refuel along the way!!!

    • @jtdavis62
      @jtdavis62 4 года назад +3

      It's one of the rules of urban living. 1. Always pee when available. 2. Never buy more than you can carry. 3. Never pass up a chance to refuel.

    • @ajandrewy.1024
      @ajandrewy.1024 3 года назад

      or don't wait to request a priority landing when you have low fuel and you were already put in a holding pattern.

    • @adrianmizen5070
      @adrianmizen5070 2 года назад

      That costs extra money due to the extra fuel used in landing and taking off, plus the extra time for ground crews and flight crews. Certainly in this case it was boneheaded not to stop for fuel since they could only spare a few miles of flight, but it would be understandable for the airline to discourage stopping "just in case".

  • @CaptainFeathersword
    @CaptainFeathersword 5 лет назад +171

    While I agree with the culpability of the all parties mentioned (quite a few) ultimately, the flight crew is the last line of safety. They should have refused to fly higher than FL28. They should have insisted on refueling at Bogota. They should have declared an emergency. Nothing was done until it was too late.

    • @bobrobert1123
      @bobrobert1123 5 лет назад +6

      Fabien Brunner but his decision ended up being more expensive

    • @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043
      @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 5 лет назад +14

      And that’s what gets folks killed. When any of us get on a plane, we’re assuming the pilots know how to get us safely where we’re going. RIP these innocent young lives who had so much to live for!

    • @icemachine79
      @icemachine79 5 лет назад +6

      They probably flew at 30,000 feet to save fuel. In fact, that's probably the only reason they made it as far as they did.

    • @mendez704
      @mendez704 5 лет назад +2

      @@CallMeBrunner And he was trying to avoid a fine

    • @ninamaldonado2285
      @ninamaldonado2285 5 лет назад

      they can't refuse ATC ORDERS

  • @packetattack7437
    @packetattack7437 5 лет назад +172

    2 miles of fuel buffer is plain incompetence and neglect. I also don't understand the holding pattern they requested, so they could burn even more fuel!?

    • @harrisonofcolorado8886
      @harrisonofcolorado8886 5 лет назад +6

      Packetattack actually they had to hold for some weather.

    • @packetattack7437
      @packetattack7437 5 лет назад +3

      @@harrisonofcolorado8886 Got it, thank you!

    • @felinagrimm7538
      @felinagrimm7538 5 лет назад +36

      They should have declared an emergency and then they wouldn't have to be held in a holding pattern. ATC will NOT give priority unless you declare an emergency, or pilots would take advantage of requesting priority.

    • @ladykiri42
      @ladykiri42 5 лет назад +5

      Being considerably overweight also contributed to more fuel being used on the flight. Also, remember they said that they flew higher than they should have been flying.

    • @felinagrimm7538
      @felinagrimm7538 5 лет назад

      That too. There were so many factors.

  • @taraann7753
    @taraann7753 5 лет назад +178

    They were almost safely on the ground, such a shame all those young lives wasted, there were big mistakes made here as well, you could almost feel that pilots fear, he knew he wasn't going to make it.These videos are very tense but unmissable...Thank you.

    • @zoso73
      @zoso73 5 лет назад +13

      ballinacrossrose they weren't even close. The last working engine powered off and they were at a considerable altitude (9,000 feet) and 8 miles from the runway -- the captain knew they were doomed when he reported his fuel was depleted. Really incredible this happened in 2016 when the pilots had all the data on remaining fuel.

    • @taraann7753
      @taraann7753 5 лет назад +5

      bianchi1885..I have to agree, that Pilot made a big mistake by not having his plane refuelled. The pilot was in touch with ATC who were guiding this plane Down, that's what I meant when I said they were almost safely on ground.I know they were 8 miles away, for an aircraft that doesn't seem that far but for this stricken aircraft it was a case of so near yet so far.

    • @felinagrimm7538
      @felinagrimm7538 5 лет назад +6

      These pilots suffered from "get-there-itis."

    • @taraann7753
      @taraann7753 5 лет назад +1

      @@felinagrimm7538 Yes, thats a fair comment.

    • @felinagrimm7538
      @felinagrimm7538 5 лет назад +2

      Unfortunately, many accidents happened for that reason. They want to get there ASAP (especially in this case, because it was a soccer team) and end up with tunnel vision.

  • @nolanbennett2734
    @nolanbennett2734 5 лет назад +46

    Mistake 1- not stopping for gas
    Mistake 2- entering a gold on bingo fuel
    Mistake 3- lowering he gear too early
    A preventable tragedy that took great lives.
    By the way, I have a copy of Fifa 17 and I love that they did a tribute to the players

    • @wjatube
      @wjatube 5 лет назад +3

      Declaring an Emergency was their last hope and it was lost on this crew.

    • @icemachine79
      @icemachine79 5 лет назад +2

      You can't lower the gear or extend flaps on an Avro 146 without engines running to power the hydraulic system. They knew the fuel was almost gone so they did it while they still could. All 4 engines failed shortly thereafter.

    • @rozycantsay3587
      @rozycantsay3587 4 года назад +1

      Mistake 4- flying above 28000 ft
      Mistake 5- wasting fuel while some brat retrieves a video game.
      Mistake 6- cargo over by 880lbs.
      And I’m sure there’s more!

    • @brianwong7285
      @brianwong7285 2 года назад

      @@rozycantsay3587 How about this one?
      Having a flight crew member who also happens to be the co-owner of the airline.

  • @Pat2296
    @Pat2296 5 лет назад +27

    Some boy had to have his video game to play with, even if it delayed the flight? No stopping for refueling? Omg.

  • @carolmorris404
    @carolmorris404 5 лет назад +4

    I remember hearing about this crash with the football team on board. I am so glad you have finally shown what actually happened. Every crash when even one passenger or crew member is killed or badly injured is tragic but this particular one gutted me. It happened 2 days before my daughter and her netball team were due to fly from South Africa to tour Australia. I have never feared flying or being concerned about any of my family flying but I felt literally ill, when I said goodbye to her. RIP

  • @richardmourdock2719
    @richardmourdock2719 5 лет назад +6

    This is just infuriating. Two experienced pilots take off knowing that they have flight planned for the very limit of their fuel range, that the plane is overweight, then accept a holding pattern (all pilots could have refused to accept it and be given emergency clearance). I recall reading shortly after this crash that the plane had not been fully "topped off" fully at Viru VIru Santa Cruz, an airport I have been through several times.

  • @guyguyguy362
    @guyguyguy362 5 лет назад +7

    NOT to dump on Bolivia from USA, another tragic flight had 73 people DIE when the plane ran out of fuel circling a foggy airport in New York area. Avianca 52 crashed in a holding pattern 90 minutes after arriving from Bogota Columbia.

    • @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043
      @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 5 лет назад +2

      Guy Guyguy • I remember that one. The pilot monitoring and doing the radio did not communicate how serious the situation was. The pilot flying kept asking if they understood they were about out of fuel, and the copilot kept saying yes but he never declared an emergency. I think that’s what happened, if memory serves.

  • @TheWatanna
    @TheWatanna 5 лет назад +5

    I remember this happening, it was such a tragedy. The excitement of the team before taking off and whilst in the air only added to the tragedy. So many factors came together to cause this terrible accident, and I am sure that no amount of money could have made up for the loss to family and friends. Thank you for posting.

  • @harbinger686
    @harbinger686 5 лет назад +7

    Such a tragic story, the fact that it was easily preventable makes a disaster all the more distasteful.... rest in peace

  • @reapermonkey4277
    @reapermonkey4277 5 лет назад +28

    You know, I was honestly just thinking that I could do with some X Pilot content. Thanks for making these!

  • @theaviator1152
    @theaviator1152 5 лет назад +14

    Another great video. Excellent content.
    That flight was a disaster waiting to happen...
    But it’s always good for at least a couple of people to survive since they can provide accurate reports of what happened. Better seven than none.

  • @eltonalonsopompeu615
    @eltonalonsopompeu615 4 года назад +1

    A few details and corrections:
    1. Chapecoense was traveling to the first leg of South American cup final.
    2. Chapecoense initially wanted to fly directly from Guarulhos (São Paulo, Brazil) to Medellín, with LaMia. This flight was not authorized by brazilian authorities stating that, by regulations, this flight could only be operated by a Brazilian or Colombian company.
    3. The pilot Quiroga was also one of Lamia’s owners. In order to cut costs he often made flights without refueling and near the aircraft’s full range. His company was often hired to fly for high profile South American teams, including Argentina’s national squad.
    4. After the crash, Atletico Nacional forfeited its participation in the final, effectively awarding the title to Chapecoense. In the day the first leg should be played, Atletico Nacional promoted a massive event at the stadium to honor the victims.
    As champions of Libertadores, Atletico Nacional faced off with Chapecoense months later in the Recopa Sudamericana. Atletico won both legs.
    5. Brazilian clubs, in face of the tragedy, offered Chapecoense immunity from relegation for three years. Chapecoense refused. This year should be the final year of immunity, but Chapecoense is next to last in the standings and mathematically relegated. It will be very hard for Chapecoense, as a very tiny club in Brazil, to regain first division status again.
    6. One of the Brazilian survivors, journalist Rafael Henzel, passed away in 2019 due to a heart attack after playing soccer with friends.
    Wing back Alan Ruschel resumed his playing career and left Chapecoense for Goiás (mid tier first division club). Center back Neto is still in Chapecoense and still rehabbing in order to resume playing. Spare Goal-keeper Follmann lost a leg in the crash, effectively ending his footballing career. He works as an embassador for Chapecoense, as a commentator for Fox Sports (a company that lost workers in the tragedy) and he is singing in a brazilian reality show, making a touching tribute to his former teammates at the third anniversary of the crash. Two bolivian crew members also survived the crash. This info is of december 2019

  • @gamblingaddicttt
    @gamblingaddicttt 5 лет назад +4

    Love watching your videos they always have me in suspense. Thank you for your time you put into these videos.

  • @nabilhamdi3478
    @nabilhamdi3478 5 лет назад +3

    Love your passion, i watched every single video you made, thank you.

  • @Niko-xz5lk
    @Niko-xz5lk 5 лет назад +2

    As a car driver, I refuel at a minimum of 30 miles before empty, and that isn't a life and death situation. Trained pilots should know better than this. It's totally unacceptable to allow no margin for weather, delays, holding patterns, missed approaches etc. Amazing video, thank you X Pilot. I find your videos better than the TV documentaries.

    • @pacmanzz
      @pacmanzz 5 лет назад

      i fill up when im needle red on empty with warnings and the trip computer with ---- :)

    • @Niko-xz5lk
      @Niko-xz5lk 5 лет назад

      @@pacmanzz Well you're just too badass to refuel like normal people :)

  • @AshtonArcher
    @AshtonArcher 5 лет назад

    Thanks for putting the plane details/date in the description! Another great video!

  • @shreyaschakravarthula9689
    @shreyaschakravarthula9689 5 лет назад

    Thanks for the video, I was searching for this in your channel for ever! I can't believe what had happened!

  • @beigemachine549
    @beigemachine549 5 лет назад +21

    Such nonchalant, ho hum incompetance. There was no sense of urgency to get refueled or for the controller to get the plane on the ground quickly. The pilots flew it out of fuel with little worry...unbelievable!

  • @smb226b
    @smb226b 5 лет назад +3

    Great video with plenty of information.
    Looking forward to your next video

  • @oscarjuliangutierrez8071
    @oscarjuliangutierrez8071 5 лет назад +43

    I was waiting for this video a long time ago...it was really a shame. I live near to zone where plane crash. Regards form Medellín.

    • @jefftX
      @jefftX 5 лет назад

      OSCAR JULIAN GUTIERREZ
      How do you like the area?

    • @fuego1915
      @fuego1915 4 года назад

      @@jefftX It's a great area, google Guatape, I lived there 3 months, pretty laid back lifestyle, lots of collectivo-type travelling and in general I found that Colombians are awesome people.

    • @fuego1915
      @fuego1915 4 года назад

      @@jefftX I was actually living there when this plane crashed. I can remember some Colombians I was living with being so angry, how could a plane go down because it ran out of fuel.. I still have a copy of the newspaper the day after this accident happened.

    • @jefftX
      @jefftX 4 года назад

      @fuego1915
      That’s pretty cool thanks for sharing

  • @Special_Tactics_Force_Unit
    @Special_Tactics_Force_Unit 5 лет назад +4

    Absolutely crazy that there were survivors. That's unbelievable

  • @effybin
    @effybin 5 лет назад +21

    Almost 16 minutes? Shaking in excitement! Hope you kept today's passengers safe, X Pilot!

    • @effybin
      @effybin 5 лет назад +4

      I expected them to all be dead from that; 6 survivors is incredible! RIP to the 71 unlucky souls :(

    • @bruzote
      @bruzote 5 лет назад

      Nope. :-(

    • @FrancescoDondi
      @FrancescoDondi 5 лет назад +1

      Guess being out of fuel is a very bad idea if you want to fly, but far from your worst option if you want to crash.

  • @vegasgirl3538
    @vegasgirl3538 5 лет назад

    I've been waiting for someone to simulate this crash! Awesome video, thank you!

  • @MatthewTaylor3
    @MatthewTaylor3 5 лет назад +12

    These sequences of events were all independently avoidable. Eliminating any one or two of these issues could averted this disaster

  • @SamGreeneRacing
    @SamGreeneRacing 5 лет назад +2

    I remember sitting in a lecture and seeing this pop up on reddit and I just sat there and wept as quietly as I could (I was in the back). I dont have any connection to the team but I know so many did. It broke my heart

  • @drstrangelove9851
    @drstrangelove9851 5 лет назад +7

    There should be a series of low fuel warnings, beeps, and lights long before actually running out.

  • @roxannesmith4534
    @roxannesmith4534 5 лет назад

    Really enjoy your channel! Excellent videos!

  • @RetroTintin
    @RetroTintin 5 лет назад +4

    Another great video, keep it up!

  • @Alicia-BG
    @Alicia-BG 5 лет назад +17

    I can't believe so many lives were lost due to these irresponsible people not getting fuel!!!!

  • @henrydenner5448
    @henrydenner5448 5 лет назад

    This is just horrible. Fuel. 😢
    X Pilot - I love your videos and your attention to detail. 💜

  • @1337Menace
    @1337Menace 5 лет назад

    Love your videos, keep it up!
    Greetings from Vienna

  • @Saltee323
    @Saltee323 5 лет назад +5

    Man I don't even give my car a 2 mile fuel buffer. When my range gets near 30 miles, I refuel. And I can just pull over if I run out.

  • @edgardocarrasquillo9
    @edgardocarrasquillo9 5 лет назад +9

    Details, details. Really sad.

  • @samuelvelez9243
    @samuelvelez9243 5 лет назад +4

    Soy de Medellín, también hincha del Atlético Nacional, recuerdo los hechos como si fueran ayer, sin duda algo que te deja marcado, algo muy pero muy difícil de superar... Saludos

  • @JOYOUSONEX
    @JOYOUSONEX 5 лет назад +3

    Especially considering the weather and always the possibility of delays, not stopping for fuel was simply inexcusable.

  • @merrymonarch
    @merrymonarch 5 лет назад

    A very sensitive and respectful film. So tragic and yet frustrating - difficult to believe this happened recently. Almost seemed like it happened in the early days of airline travel

  • @janicesullivan8942
    @janicesullivan8942 5 лет назад +5

    The stupidity is mind boggling, it’s not like you can fill ‘er up at the corner gas station at 30,000 feet.

  • @BrilliantDesignOnline
    @BrilliantDesignOnline 5 лет назад +43

    The pilots did not make clear their situation. I would have been "Honey, we are OUT of fuel and we are GLIDER PILOTS" at night. We NEED VECTORS; screw those other planes..tell them to climb and hold. Stupid accident caused by incompetence.

    • @BrilliantDesignOnline
      @BrilliantDesignOnline 5 лет назад +11

      @@willzimjohn Pilot: "No one will notice. No one will notice. No one will notice. Oops, hit mountain."

    • @gelilawitasefa6247
      @gelilawitasefa6247 5 лет назад

      I'm utterly speechless😳!

  • @lmo7724
    @lmo7724 5 лет назад

    Love your channel!

  • @gelilawitasefa6247
    @gelilawitasefa6247 5 лет назад

    Well done video as always👌

  • @charleslong5373
    @charleslong5373 5 лет назад +12

    The pilots could easily have shut down one engine to conserve fuel. They could also have declared a fuel emergency and asked for immediate landing instead of holding. The pilots could have remained high, not used the speed brakes, and coasted to the airport.

    • @zampieritto
      @zampieritto 5 лет назад +8

      The pilot was a owner of the Lamia. He didn't that coz he doesn't want to be investigated or fined his plane. That's why he didn't call for mayday. That's greediness.
      Other thing is... He didnt want to refuel in Bogota coz he has to pay to land in other airport... Totally greediness

    • @brianwong7285
      @brianwong7285 2 года назад

      @@zampieritto Further investigations revealed that LaMia itself was in financial trouble, with 2 of the other RJ85s grounded and CP-2933 being the only one they could fly.

  • @tomasachaval77
    @tomasachaval77 5 лет назад +1

    I was waiting for this video since it happened

  • @bobrobert1123
    @bobrobert1123 5 лет назад +65

    Why didn’t they insist on the fuel stop?

    • @felinagrimm7538
      @felinagrimm7538 5 лет назад +28

      Because the pilots had "get-there-itis" and wanted to get to Medellin ASAP because they were flying the soccer team. It's not an excuse, though. They already wasted 20 minutes on the ground pre-flight and wasted precious fuel. Not to mention that the plane didn't have the range to get there without making a fuel stop.

    • @ImGolden
      @ImGolden 5 лет назад +5

      If you put yourself in their shoes, simply going with the clearance was the easier thing to do, rather than request a amended clearance for a fuel stop. Obviously a very bad call, but the human error to go with the flow is understandable.

    • @bobrobert1123
      @bobrobert1123 5 лет назад +21

      Samuel Golden , call me a worrier but the knowledge that the flight was the same as the max range of the aircraft would have me shitting bricks the whole way, but I’m not a pilot.

    • @felinagrimm7538
      @felinagrimm7538 5 лет назад +7

      Unacceptable. They should have known the limits of the airplane.

    • @ImGolden
      @ImGolden 5 лет назад +2

      @@bobrobert1123 Absolutely. Performance figures for aircraft are defined in perfect conditions, flown by a very experienced test pilots. So, in the real world they are not to be trusted with that much precision.

  • @cassianoperes2062
    @cassianoperes2062 5 лет назад +5

    One of the saddest days of my life. It was almost 2 years. =(

  • @teddyparker1888
    @teddyparker1888 5 лет назад

    Great video again

  • @WayneM1961
    @WayneM1961 5 лет назад +2

    What a completely preventable accident. First off, if Mr. Average has left his "toy" in the baggage hold it stays there until he can get it back in baggage reclaim on the ground. 2nd if my car has enough fuel to get me 100 miles and the nearest refill point is 90 miles leaving only a 10 mile safety barrier I make damn sure I fill up halfway in case of delays.
    Incompetent crew and incompetent planning. What a tragic waste of young lives. I hope someone went to jail because of this, if they didn't, then someone really should have done

  • @paulkita
    @paulkita 5 лет назад

    Really well done!!

  • @londonaviation6233
    @londonaviation6233 5 лет назад +62

    Kind of snobby how Flight was late because some one on the teamWanted a video game

    • @drummerdude476
      @drummerdude476 5 лет назад +28

      Sure, but to be fair though, it's not like they understood the repercussions.

    • @renasauceman
      @renasauceman 5 лет назад +7

      Shocking that someone with money and power was snobby. /s

    • @felinagrimm7538
      @felinagrimm7538 5 лет назад +7

      It's common sense that the plane is going to be wasting fuel, the longer the engines keep running on the ground. They should have understood the repercussions.

    • @drummerdude476
      @drummerdude476 5 лет назад +6

      @@felinagrimm7538 Once again; sure, but I highly doubt they thought it would force the plane to be running on fumes though. If that was the case, an attendant or ground worker would've surely stopped them.

    • @jessicamedrano585
      @jessicamedrano585 5 лет назад

      Couldn't they just have fueled the plane while they looked for that thing though.....

  • @joey7551
    @joey7551 5 лет назад +2

    Laaaaamiaaaaa! Love this channel.

  • @TexasCat99
    @TexasCat99 5 лет назад +5

    Yeah, kind of hard to have a fire or explosion without explosive fuel in the plane.

  • @TubeAngel
    @TubeAngel 5 лет назад

    I love these videos

  • @VladiJunior74
    @VladiJunior74 5 лет назад +8

    Vamos Chape! 💚 😭

  • @samc4531
    @samc4531 5 лет назад +3

    3:14 "They decide to crash before reaching their destination rather than stop to refuel"

  • @TheGaming727
    @TheGaming727 5 лет назад +3

    I can see some similarities in this crash to Avianca 052, but nonetheless, it was a nice video. Very indepth and I love it.

    • @stanislavkostarnov2157
      @stanislavkostarnov2157 5 лет назад

      here the controllers did not pose any problem, all delays were at the pilots request....
      the only mistake on the ATCs part was giving an incorrect clearance, which they probably assumed was right since it was what the pilots would logically want.

  • @harrisonofcolorado8886
    @harrisonofcolorado8886 5 лет назад

    Great job on this video! Do the Tenerife disaster next!

    • @rayford21
      @rayford21 5 лет назад

      There are many RUclips videos already posted about this Tenerife disaster, enough to make any further video posts about it meaningless.

  • @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043
    @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 5 лет назад +1

    So many things wrong on so many levels. RIP these precious young souls who had so much to live for.

  • @android1617
    @android1617 5 лет назад +1

    I'm flying tomorrow. Why did I choose today of all days to start binging on your videos? Now I'm scared:(

  • @ekinwilliston
    @ekinwilliston 5 лет назад

    Really well done

  • @shazaidi
    @shazaidi 5 лет назад +5

    I guess that video game was worth it.

  • @CWINDOWSsystem32
    @CWINDOWSsystem32 5 лет назад +13

    I bet the pilot had a lot of prior experience pushing his car into a gas station...

  • @Chris-Alia
    @Chris-Alia 5 лет назад +2

    So the pilot filed a plan with higher than normal altitude to save fuel and avoid a refueling. That simple, and sad.

  • @jstenberg3192
    @jstenberg3192 5 лет назад +3

    Hopefully these videos will teach and remind the aviation community valuable lessons. But I see repeat mistakes. For example, sadly, Airbus refuses to alter their control stick design or add impossible to miss alerts that the copilot is cancelling out the pilots inputs.

  • @joaquinperez9146
    @joaquinperez9146 5 лет назад +4

    I wonder how much closer to the runway they would have been if they weren't overweight and the landing gear had not been deployed so early.

  • @nonmihiseddeo4181
    @nonmihiseddeo4181 5 лет назад +1

    Should have declared an emergency and stated the problem clearly, not this "fuel problem" bullshit, and it should've been stated much earlier, so that ATC was aware. I was a fan of that Chapecoense team. I used a selfie taken by Danilo Padiha (goalkeeper) with Alan Ruschel (defender) as my profile pic on Facebook for a long time afterwards. Danilo survived the crash but died later. Alan underwent spinal surgery not otherwise specified, and I don't know what the outcome of that was. Jakson Folman (reserve keeper) had one of his legs amputated. It was reported at the time (2016-Dec-1) he might lose his remaining foot. Helio Zemper Nieto (defender) sustained trauma to his skull, thorax, and lungs. All these footballers were in intensive care at an unnamed hospital(s). Other survivors were Ximina Suarez (flight attendant), Erwin Timiri (flight technician), and Raphael Henzel (journalist). I don't know anything other than they survived the crash. Lives snuffed out in their prime, full of promise and talent, along with those there to support them. AND FOR WHAT??

  • @TheLongIslandRailfan
    @TheLongIslandRailfan 5 лет назад +3

    Thumbs up for X Pilot!
    Request: China Airlines Flight 611

  • @WJack97224
    @WJack97224 5 лет назад +1

    I was taught to always have enough fuel to fly to an alternate airport if the original destination was not open. Sounds like these pilots took off with insufficient fuel to make the trip without the refueling stop but then by not making the refueling stop they condemned themselves. What if Medellin had been closed and they had to divert? These fools killed themselves and most of the crew and passengers; they disobeyed a cardinal rule. They had one last chance and that was to immediately declare an emergency and get the plane on the ground; no delays should have been permitted. They communicated to the ATC too late. This is just plain maddening and painful hear.

  • @Sunburst75
    @Sunburst75 5 лет назад +1

    Absolutely shocking, this disaster should never have happened. Cowboy airlines putting lives at risk by taking on minimal fuel to save money. Although this plane bizarrely didn't land in Bogota to re-fuel. I cannot understand why any pilot would chance he would have enough when it was very clear he may not. If the plane hadn't had to hold for 15m, it would have had enough, but any pilot would know holding was a possibility. 10 days after the crash a report by American media company Univision, using data from the Flightradar24 website, claimed that the airline had broken the fuel and loading regulations of the International Civil Aviation Organization on 8 of its 23 previous flights since 22 August. This included two direct flights from Medellín to Santa Cruz: one on 29 October transporting Atlético Nacional to the away leg of their Copa Sudamericana semi-final, and a flight without passengers on 4 November. The report claimed the 8 flights would have used at least some of the aircraft's mandatory fuel reserves (a variable fuel quantity to allow for an additional 45mns of flying time), concluding the company was accustomed to operating flights at the limit of the RJ85's endurance. Football/sports clubs need to start investigating their team and players mode of transport (as do the public). Emiliano Sala's plane sadly was a death trap with a staggeringly abysmal safety record including many recent fatal crashes.

  • @eltongilchrist7096
    @eltongilchrist7096 5 лет назад +1

    Love it used it for a project!

  • @inspector38
    @inspector38 5 лет назад

    Great video as usual.
    May I request the Yaroslavl Lokomotiv disaster?

  • @DamageLLC
    @DamageLLC 5 лет назад +2

    $165k paid to each victims family? What a joke. Gross negligence here. If that was my family on that flight you can keep the money and give me my loved ones back. Disgusting!

  • @rkrohaan07
    @rkrohaan07 5 лет назад +3

    Some people really deserve what's coming to them. How you can you fly without fuel???? I would INSIST on stopping for fuel or declare an emergency straightaway!! Crazy!!!!

  • @alejandromedina4597
    @alejandromedina4597 4 года назад

    It was a huge and very sad event here in South
    America it was one of the finalist of the second most important football event in the continent. i was casually gaming in the night when a friend send me a link that the plane was missing for 2 hours. at this moment i knew it was very bad news.

  • @twofaceddisk7995
    @twofaceddisk7995 5 лет назад +1

    How do you get the nighttime environment so dark?

  • @bruzote
    @bruzote 5 лет назад +1

    Why didn't they run the APU, especially when the first engines were flaming out? I'm not a pilot and the actual flight crew has pilots, so I am hoping there was a good reason.

  • @zm453
    @zm453 5 лет назад +8

    I would love to know why the survivors survived. Is it because of their seating? Or the way the plane crashed?

    • @AJ-pw8xg
      @AJ-pw8xg 4 года назад +5

      Both. All the survivors were seating in the back of the plane. The back of the plane separated from the rest, the moment it touched the ground, the other parts of the plane went downhill from the mountain, that's why nobody survived on there. But, there were more people was in the back of the plane who didnt survive. So, it's not really clearly how they survived.

    • @dalhousiekid
      @dalhousiekid 4 года назад +1

      @@AJ-pw8xg The rear is the safest place to sit as well as over the wings. NOT the front.

  • @danahsutton101
    @danahsutton101 4 года назад +2

    Very sad and and very preventable.

  • @wossgwuanin8072
    @wossgwuanin8072 3 года назад +1

    “You’re 8.2 miles from the runway”
    Uh oh

  • @michaelkortz912
    @michaelkortz912 5 лет назад +2

    Guess the drugs are more important than refueling. The drugs survived and were sold .. that's insanity

  • @emmettcunninghamjr.5207
    @emmettcunninghamjr.5207 5 лет назад +2

    TERRIBLE DECISIONS BY CAPTAIN AND CREW TO DEPART WITH FUEL TO THE LIMIT, BAD WEATHER, NOT TAKING IN FACTORS OF HOLD PATTERNS AND OTHER AIRCRAFT PROBLEMS THAT MAY OCCUR. EVEN THE AIRPORT CLOSURE TIME. GODSPEED! La MIA FLIGHT 2933.

  • @hexagonist23
    @hexagonist23 5 лет назад

    Can you change the font to the old basic one? This is hard to read fast.

  • @celanis7164
    @celanis7164 5 лет назад

    Crazy that there were survivors! A massive tragedy that could have been prevented.

  • @davedenham8697
    @davedenham8697 3 года назад

    Also sounds like the airport did not have secondary radar which means they would not be able to see the aircraft height once their electrics failed

  • @nenblom
    @nenblom 5 лет назад +1

    Tragic. I'm wondering why they didn't land at El Dorado to refuel. Poor planning is a major understatement.

  • @Tbonemeister
    @Tbonemeister 5 лет назад +1

    Fire services called in for a plane that would never touch down, haunting.

  • @Schrottkralle
    @Schrottkralle 5 лет назад +3

    Very often economic pressure imposed on flight crews by the airline's management can end in fatal accidents.
    A fueling stop en route cost a lot of money. Unfortunately the captain decided in favor of money and risked everybody's life. Including his own.
    The owner of this airline should be imprisoned for the rest of his life.

    • @toshiaki10419
      @toshiaki10419 5 лет назад +6

      The owner of the airline was the captain, though.

    • @Schrottkralle
      @Schrottkralle 5 лет назад +1

      @@toshiaki10419 That explains everything.

  • @knowledgetracker
    @knowledgetracker 5 лет назад

    Really interesting case.

  • @psort3800
    @psort3800 5 лет назад

    I agree, why lower the gear 20 miles out, do a hold pattern and would shutting down 2 of the 4 engines conserve fuel, seems a little obvious.

  • @James-oo1yq
    @James-oo1yq 5 лет назад +8

    No RAM air for electricity? They were literally flying blind, and left it far too late to declare an emergency. Many mistakes that could have been prevented...the worst being the approval of the flight plan.

    • @joethorpe109
      @joethorpe109 5 лет назад +2

      Yeah, what's with that? Why was there no RAM air turbine? Or even a backup generator?

    • @shinseiki2015
      @shinseiki2015 5 лет назад

      i have a question could they turned off 2 engine and made it ?

  • @lightingmc5538
    @lightingmc5538 5 лет назад

    How can u find out every second of the crashes like every action the pilots do... nice vid.

  • @paulbrown1585
    @paulbrown1585 5 лет назад +4

    Fatal decision was not refueling. Period.

  • @TheVirindi
    @TheVirindi 5 лет назад +3

    Tragic. I don't understand the actions of the pilots here though. You don't know where the runway is, you're way up at FL210, and your engines start flaming out from lack of fuel. At that point you should have plenty of glide distance, and yet they were burning as much energy as they could with the gear and speedbrake? If they had maintained best glideslope, maybe they would have had enough time to get oriented and aligned with the runway?
    Though running out of fuel was certainly a large error, it seems like it was the response that doomed the flight.
    Edit: Yes I know that on many aircraft, you cannot raise the gear without any engines functioning, and it is possible they missed their chance to do that. But still, it seems that they were thinking "get down now" before the engines started failing, assuming they could make it, but then never reevaluated that strategy when the engines failed.