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Awesome work as always. I see it as: Critical Disengagements & Honks = Needs to be fixed to have a comfortable stress-free drive Non-Critical Disengagements = Needs to be fixed to allow for true autopilot I'm so f@#king excited for your obstacle testing lol
I recently thought self-driving videos are becoming boring. But frankly : this just was the most exciting, ever . FSD's capabilities, the situations, the editing, your comments. So dense. It nearly seems to be OpenAI Sora, too good. Wow. Just Wow.
@basicallyhuman people don't think twice about it because humans are capable of critical thinking and adapting to situations. Now put yourself in the shoes of the programmer who developed the self-driving algorithm and think of how you would account for all of the cases showcased in the video. There's a lot to cover and I found the video to be a good demonstration of the algorithm's abilities.
Funny because I understand why this isnt allowed in Europe yet. Compared to most European cities I would call this a super easy drive. Driving this slow and cautiously in cities like Paris or Palermo would get you honked at non-stop 😂
Funnily it's pretty much what you can expect in Europe everywhere. There's tougher places but this is basically a normal average city that was established several hundred years ago (so the vast majority of cities - not talking of driving shitholes like above mentioned Palermo or Paris or some special eastern european countries that are more like India driving).
A nice thing would be to have a "friendlier" horn for letting pedestrians know that you are behind them but without to scare them with the loud horn. Should be possible bc tesla only uses a giant loudspeaker for the horn lol.
In Europe we have AVAS for that: The Acoustic Vehicle Alerting System (AVAS) is a required accessory for electric vehicles in many countries. The AVAS system generates sound for nearly silent electric vehicles to improve the safety of vulnerable road users (VRU) such as pedestrians, cyclists, and children. Luckily my 2020 Model 3 is still without. I like the total silence of my car.
@@Majora96 I understand, I'm talking about an inevitable crash situation where it would have to swerve and crash into something else or hit the pedestrian, no other choice. You know, the kind of situation that people talked about since the beginning of self driving cars, the ethics of it etc.
These videos are like gold. I’m ALMOST as excited to get a notification that AIDRIVR posted a video on YT as when @TeslaScope announces a new version of FSD is rolling out.
The best part about this drive is that Tesla achieved this with about 1 year of development, with the least amount of data and compute hardware available. The future looks bright!
@basicallyhuman I think now they must "tune" all the aspects of self drive. Its mix of many pieces and thas why some things which worked in psat versions, now didnt work. You tune one thing and another falls apart.... Its like tuning guitar with billions of strings.
FSD is not going to work - there are lot of scenarios that this tech will fall short in a 'vision only' 1. Can it hear siren of emergency vehicles ? 2. what about different weather conditions - heavy rain/storms/fogs etc. imagine u are in robotaxi and suddenly weather is uncooperative where will the car pull? 3. what about the charging , all super chargers will need to be wireless for robotaxis 4. Parking lots needing human inputs like credit card payment how will fsd handle 5. Reverse is very tricky , they have not figured out how they will handle this 6. cameras cannot distinguish between a white light background and a truck with white back ,it thinks its the same which caused many accidents , same issue with strong sunlight blinding the cameras - Many many such cases where fsd is impractical and we are many years away from a steering free robotaxis that self operates ..
GPT did not hit a ceiling. They only train a new model every 1-2 years and it’s a huge effort. There is little incremental progress in between. GPT5 will likely launch sometime this year. Then we will see. I expect significant progress. Same with this. Tesla just needs to throw more training data and more compute. Then it will soon be much better then humans. The only question is how large they can make their model and still have it fit the built in hardware, especially FSD computer 3. I am sure 3 will never archived FSD because it can’t run the size of model necessary. 4 is also unlikely but has a better chance.
The best FSD videos, by far. No one else has commentary with the technical insight you provide. I don't even bother watching the others anymore - I just wait for the notification to tell me you have a new video :) Hit that bell people!
The cameras see through their disguise, just like they see the ghosts that earlier versions used to stop for. Tesla's camera tech is truly out-of-this-world!
Eighteen minutes in. Fascinating. i've never said this before: I'm impressed(!) [also, as ever, by your narration, thank you] The true value of end to end shines out, what an achievement. Really looking forward to the next six months, or shall we say the next two or three updates. Cheers dude! Edit: also, these roads are exactly like so many here in the UK, and precisely the sorts of situations I have been concerned about: turn taking for oncoming traffic in narrow roads. V encouraging for when the UNECE regs finally permit us to start doing what you do.
I really would not be surprised if the Tesla Self-Driving engineers are watching every one of your videos to get more context. Super high quality stuff. These videos must take a lot of work. Thank you for sharing it so openly with us.
WOW, this is simply stunning progress. Top marks to AI DRIVR for spending so much time and effort finding so many funky edge cases and editing it all down into a very interesting video. Thank you so much 🙂
Thanks for the excellent video and commentary. After 3 years in a model Y plying the streets around Seattle using FSD, I've become a bit frustrated at the slowing pace of improvements. Seeing V12's improvements in handling oncoming traffic on narrow roads is encouraging. My neighbor who drives a '19 Model X says they'll never solve self-driving but after watching your early edition of V12 I think he is wrong. Hopefully, the software team will get the car's behavior to react safely to what the visualization clearly showed at 29:22. I'm looking forward to getting V12!
Thanks bro! THAT was a test that had some of everything in it and v12 will become better because of it. I don’t fret too much of the misjudgments by it because it needs to adjust and learn. That session should really kick the learning database up a notch. Great video!
Thank you very much! I live in Europe and was starting to wonder, whether all roads in the US look like the vids from Omar. Good to see that FSD can do more than driving downtown on wide roads.
Man the visualization in the intro is the funniest thing ever: Reality: Deer, deer, deer. Meanwhile Tesla vision: Dog, dog, dog; Human, dog, dog; Cyclist, dog; Human, human, dog; Cyclist with a trailer shaped like a car; Perpendicular cyclist.
I love your FSD videos-the visuals, commentary, and summary. The latest FSD 11 has been very good for me so far, and I use FSD all the time. I can’t use a car without FSD. I am so relaxed when using it and enjoy the visuals and the scenery so much more. I love taking it through curvy, tight roads like the one you took it through, and let me tell you, it has blown my mind with its capabilities and negotiating skills. I can’t wait to try version 12.
The roads shown here reminds me of the roads in England, Cornwall. Pretty cool to see that in America. I’m used to seeing houses and the roads with them being big and spaced out in America, but here it’s small and compact like you would find in Cornwall. Interesting video seeing how the care behaves too!
Beg to differ. You haven’t had a 16 year old in your car in a while I’d assume They’d die on roads like that. Tight spaces. Construction. 3 way splitting lanes. People in the road. Who has right of way to yield and pull over. No. Not a beginner driver. A beginner driver wouldn’t drive this
@@No_True_Scotsman sorry BS. If you're out in the middle of nowhere, then yes, you're not going to get in the accident, but they can't handle tough driving situations.
@@6681096 You are objectively wrong. You could have looked it up instead of embarrassing yourself. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a well established statistical fact. Your vague feelings on the matter do not override objective reality.
I'm very impressed! Where FSD succeeded in this drive far outweighs where it failed, compared to previous versions. The fact that it excelled way more than it failed, tells me that they have gone up another level. Further, the way it excelled in difficult edge cases, lays the pathway to excel in way more difficult edge cases. Please can you go back to the episode from the start, where people suggested hard intersections and the underpass with multiple entry exit points. Have followed you from the start and would love to see you test that again. Love your work!! It's most important :)
Just subscribed, I think that I have come across your videos before but this time your detailed analysis really hit me, great job! Especially enjoyed the "I think it grew a pair" at he 16:15 min mark...lol.... Cheers
re. 22:51: The destination point was so close after the "except local traffic" area that I (and some others) might consider going through there absolutely reasonable. We have similar access limitations in Germany as permanent traffic control ("Anlieger frei") and _I_ would not have hesitated to enter in the same situation as it is not clear how deep the limitation ("local traffic only") goes - it was reasonable to assume that _you are local traffic_.
I have been wondering why we had not seen more videos from you , but I can now see what you have been doing. What an excellent video. Just the fact you can fast forward through so much because it’s “ unremarkable “ is amazing I’m so hopeful for this approach as it is just doing so much. You have had to up your game so much in trying to find more difficult things to test it on . Just a joy to watch.
I don't know what it is about your FSD videos specifically, but I always find them interesting whereas most, but not all others, bore me to tears. I think there's a certain level of analysis and understanding that comes from your having worked at Tesla, along with a certain positive attitude and enthusiasm about not just FSD or technology as a whole, but life in general.
29:31 it had the creep limit at the center of that road for a split second. I wonder if it thought it had the right of way?.. for some odd reason lol. But yea that's a rough disengagement. Awesome video upload. These videos are becoming super impressive.
Everytime I'm telling myself to just have a quick look but end up watching your video end-to-end. Really well done! And it seems like through all these years, paying attention to nuances you probably become one of the best human drivers as well, learning from the autopilots mistakes/awkwardness :D
@@Mpr47276 I doubt it. Its assertiveness is quite low for much of the places in the world with heavy traffic. Also, the 100% vision system is not yet refined to the level where it could afford to be much more confident. Try googling "Bucharest traffic" and you'll change your mind, trust me.
It would probably handle it much better tbh. FSD was probably trained extensively on that, considering that is one of the most dangerous situations for pedestrians and cars a like. Like in New York.
@@G82Watts how good is it really. I just did a little research on it, and it will only allow you to go up to 37miles per hour😆😆😆 that is pathetic. Also, you are talking mainly about Level 3 driving assist, which BMW has. However, the regular Autopilot in Tesla has had the capabilities of Level 3 forever, even if not recognized as such. This FSD has the capabilities of Level 4, even if considered, for some reason, level 2.
Great effort my friend . i have seen many videos of FSD 12 but you take the testing and the quality of the video edits to a whole new level . Best tester on RUclips by miles . Congrats . keep doing please i love these
It's amazing to see FSD 12 prioritizing smoothness. Which is key to being predictable for other humans in our traffic system. It looks like v12 learned the "go or no go" mentality, and not hesitate endlessly, making the car way more predictable. The best examples being the costco parking lot and the biker here. hesitating in these situations is what causes accidents. Either you stop or you shoot the gap and it seems to do it wonderfully.
Thanks. As always, the best FSD Beta narration. And what a great couple of drives. The improvements are immense. It probably will take 3-4 more months for a wide release and possibly longer. But the progress is amazing.
Absolutely love your video's, the overlap of the screen, your commentary, the sped-up at non critical driving parts and the counting of the criticial and non critical interventions. Top notch. One tip you might add is a color dot counter on the top side of the screen (like a lifebar in fight games) that counts all the critical/non-critical or other kinds of interventions. That way it's easy to compare in the future with other video's, as hopefully these color dots will become less and less.
What an incredible collection of edge-cases in one drive! Fantastic editing, as always. You da best! Once again, failed at some of the simplest, normal scenarios while doing amazingly and surprisingly well at the weird and unusual. Quite baffling! But my god was it impressive the vat majority of the time! SO much smoother than it used to be! That final yield scenario, in particular, was *chef's kiss*
It is a simple fact, admitted by multiple other Tesla fan testers like Chuck Cook and Dirty Tesla, that Tesla FSD will never work as promised. It will never be more than Level 2 because the hardware has zero redundancy (like radar), the computer thinks much too slowly (especially in reacting to fast moving traffic) and the software is endlessly buggy even after 7 years. Getting excited about certain improvements while other aspects clearly move backwards may be fine for some but most people do not enjoy being the victims of fraud.
Great to see the progress V12 has made. The visualizations and commentary in AI DRIVR's videos are next level, better than actually driving the car. In the car, I have to keep my eyes on the road and other traffic, and can only glance at the visualization on the screen occasionally. It would be great to see how V12 does on 40-50 mph suburban streets to see if "lane drift," and inappropriate lane selection to follow route, have been reduced or eliminated.
Wow, that was a VERY interesting drive, filled with lots of edge cases! Thank-you for posting. For me, the easiest of the "critical disengagements" for Tesla to solve would be the stop sign held by the construction worker. The car needs to know that this isn't just a stop-then-go stop sign. Generally speaking, V12 is acting SO much more human-like, and is operating in a way that makes other drivers much more able to predict what it will do.
It’s not difficult at all to solve. It just doesn’t happen often so the amount of training clips is small. I’d expect it to be solved by the end of summer, I mean, road construction season.
The thing that surprises me is that you recognize situations where it's not being cautious enough, but you praise it when that same level of confidence works out and delivers a satisfying experience. I think the true problem that is being overlooked is that with no programming at all for the rules logic, it's going to be very difficult to have perfect confidence that the system will never make a critical mistake. Today, the system usually performs left turns okay. It usually doesn't run red lights. It usually doesn't hit parked cars. But with no programming acting as a safety net to guard against these behaviors, we're seeing exceptions to all of these successes, even with only a tiny number of trials. I don't know how that number gets to 0 just by increasing the data. It seems as if it will become much more rare, but because Tesla doesn't know _why_ it makes the decisions it does, it also won't be able to predict the scenarios that screw it up. You mentioned Cruise here, and I think we should talk about that more fully. Their vehicle screwed up because a pedestrian lying on the ground directly next to the car was not detected by it. The pedestrian was struck by another vehicle and knocked into the path of the Cruise, and after being on the ground, the Cruise no longer understood the pedestrian was there, and it dragged her. I don't think FSD has a solution for situations like this. I think that if we put a child lying on the ground next to the car, start the car and start FSD, it can run that child over, just like the Cruise did with that pedestrian. And yes, that's an absolute edge case. But it's obviously one that happened. So how does Tesla get to a perfect confidence level with its current hardware that enables it to allow these vehicles to start up, drive across town and pick us up?
On the cruise - he is talking about a different video where cruise programmers had to manually code how to handle cyclists- ruclips.net/video/0soagwpOGqs/видео.htmlsi=7HjHAS_dW9T_wEPt
@@aguzman222 Thanks for sharing the video. That's an unfortunately misleading work, but it shows how much misunderstanding there is about all of this. In this video, the line that I'm referring to is when he said, "We all saw how that turned out." Cruise was banned from autonomous operation in California after dragging a pedestrian, and my impression is that he was joking about that. I could be mistaken.
Great video: At 19:05, where Tesla follows the guy and he doesnt have clue you're there - I have a pro tip for Tesla. I drive a 2012 PHEV Chevy Volt and they have a solution for these situations - Chevy has this very slight little tiny honk that you can use for pedestrians awareness
Great drive. Great description. You really tested it in a very difficult situation. Before watching this, I thought true FSD is probably about a year away. Now, I'm thinking six or eight months. We're very close.
I like your videos over all other FSD videos. One suggestion. I know it's not winter where you are, but maybe Canada has a pretty good winter. It would be nice if you took a road trip to some Canadian city where it's winter and there's a lot of snow on the streets, so we could see how the FSD copes with the slightly more demanding conditions.
Brilliant video. I think this also demonstrates why it would be Healy great to clearly mark self driving cars with really clear signage . That way people would know ,not to flash or use hand signals to that car. This would be a great help during the change over period.
Damn I was glued to the screen for the entirety of this video. Great editing with great commentary as always. I'm so fascinated bz this technologz and its fast progress! Thanks for making these videos
Hell I don't even own a tesla but man, watching the fsd evolve like this really feels like they're on track for a best autonomous vehicle. this is amazing
The bike interaction at 15:49 looks totally OK to me (and I've done a lot of bike riding in traffic). The key here is very accurate detection of the bikes speed and position (which is pretty slow, they're going up hill). Would love to see some more testing of bike interactions that are a lot closer or trickier.
Thank you for showing the Safety-Critical disengagements. I’ve seen several other serious issues on other videos. It seems like Tesla is having a lot of difficulty resolving them. FSD v12 has been in test, first by employees, and now by a number of customers, for over 3 months, and still does appear to be ready for a larger release to the experienced Beta testers.
I mean holy crap that's a really tricky environment to drive in. Windy road, cars parked all over the place, lack of lights. It's really impressive to be able to drive itself at all :D
I enjoy watching yur drives in the Brekely Hills. I know how challenging it is, having done it myself. Your videos are always top notch. Very impressive behavior by FSD.
I’m very familiar with all these streets and I’m super impressed with how V12 handled them. So much so that I would purchase it if only I knew I could transfer it to a new car later on…
Re: lead cars. A lead car provides indirect information you don't otherwise have. If they are not slowing down, you can be much more confident there are no surprises around those blind curves. Human drivers rely on this as well, which, since v12 is trained on DWHWD ("Do What a Human Would Do"), means it learned this behavior from us.
At one point you mentioned it was "driving too much like a local". I'll be impressed when I can put it in 'training' mode, take it for a one hour drive, put it in FSD and have it drive like I do as far as speeds, acceleration, politeness and 'local norms'.
It wasn't perfect. Which means I still have a channel, for now...
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Is this HW4? Great video as always.
great work, you're recording / documenting the painstaking making of history.
Awesome work as always. I see it as:
Critical Disengagements & Honks = Needs to be fixed to have a comfortable stress-free drive
Non-Critical Disengagements = Needs to be fixed to allow for true autopilot
I'm so f@#king excited for your obstacle testing lol
It will never be, nothing is perfect. But it is looking damn good already
Its pretty close to perfect.. Certainly a better driver than my girlfriend..
This version gives me so much hope. No one can beat your video editing and narrative.
Agreed
I recently thought self-driving videos are becoming boring. But frankly : this just was the most exciting, ever . FSD's capabilities, the situations, the editing, your comments. So dense. It nearly seems to be OpenAI Sora, too good. Wow. Just Wow.
What a great edge-case area! Well done. Thank you!
@basicallyhuman people don't think twice about it because humans are capable of critical thinking and adapting to situations. Now put yourself in the shoes of the programmer who developed the self-driving algorithm and think of how you would account for all of the cases showcased in the video. There's a lot to cover and I found the video to be a good demonstration of the algorithm's abilities.
@basicallyhuman calling this a "very normal dirivng sutuation" takes away from the real complexity of driving
@basicallyhumanedge case for fsd. Happy now?
I come in peace. Kinda
Very impressive overlays of images in the video. The viewer has the impression he is seeing everything at once....congratulations AIDRIVR.
I live in Virginia and this is 10x more challenging than anything we have out here.
Floridian here. Same.
I live right across the bay and even I'm impressed at how challenging those streets are!
Funny because I understand why this isnt allowed in Europe yet.
Compared to most European cities I would call this a super easy drive.
Driving this slow and cautiously in cities like Paris or Palermo would get you honked at non-stop 😂
Funnily it's pretty much what you can expect in Europe everywhere. There's tougher places but this is basically a normal average city that was established several hundred years ago (so the vast majority of cities - not talking of driving shitholes like above mentioned Palermo or Paris or some special eastern european countries that are more like India driving).
I live in Italy and this is 10x less challenging than what we have here. But this build is still a very impressive step forward and gives hope
A nice thing would be to have a "friendlier" horn for letting pedestrians know that you are behind them but without to scare them with the loud horn. Should be possible bc tesla only uses a giant loudspeaker for the horn lol.
That would be quite cool. Prolly one those white noise reverse ques. That would make people aware of its presence but not shocked by a loud noise
that has been my suggestion ever since I was a small kid :).
@@alexp.6406 the bike bell is brilliant tbh, although that is probably very frightening as well given how many people bike way, way, way too fast.
This would be very nice as electric cars are so quiet, so quite often you don't know they're there unless you see them with your eyes
In Europe we have AVAS for that: The Acoustic Vehicle Alerting System (AVAS) is a required accessory for electric vehicles in many countries. The AVAS system generates sound for nearly silent electric vehicles to improve the safety of vulnerable road users (VRU) such as pedestrians, cyclists, and children. Luckily my 2020 Model 3 is still without. I like the total silence of my car.
Absolutely the best FSD 12 vid I've seen. AI DRIVR is tops of this genre IMO.
People can say it’s late per Elon’s earlier comments .. but to me it’s seeing impossible things happening in reality ..
Just about everyone in the biz underestimated how difficult this was going to be.
@@MrbfgrayNot true at all. Many recognized that AGI is likely necessary for self-driving.
@@TheSpartan3669 5 yrs ago? None of those perusing it did. They've mostly given up since.
It doesn't work
its not going to happen.
It would be interesting to see how it handles school bus stops and emergency vehicles. great video!
I would be curious to see what happens when a pedestrian runs out in front of it, not that I want that to happen to anyone..
Guess he'll have to buy a school bus, ambulance, and fire truck to test 😂
@@MyRealNamethere's video of people testing that. It brakes and stops if someone runs Infront.
@@Majora96 I understand, I'm talking about an inevitable crash situation where it would have to swerve and crash into something else or hit the pedestrian, no other choice. You know, the kind of situation that people talked about since the beginning of self driving cars, the ethics of it etc.
@@MyRealName I might be wrong but from what I've heard it disengages FSD in situations like that
These videos are like gold. I’m ALMOST as excited to get a notification that AIDRIVR posted a video on YT as when @TeslaScope announces a new version of FSD is rolling out.
The best part about this drive is that Tesla achieved this with about 1 year of development, with the least amount of data and compute hardware available.
The future looks bright!
The *rate* of learning is going to become more impressive week by week.
@basicallyhuman I think now they must "tune" all the aspects of self drive. Its mix of many pieces and thas why some things which worked in psat versions, now didnt work. You tune one thing and another falls apart.... Its like tuning guitar with billions of strings.
FSD is not going to work - there are lot of scenarios that this tech will fall short in a 'vision only' 1. Can it hear siren of emergency vehicles ? 2. what about different weather conditions - heavy rain/storms/fogs etc. imagine u are in robotaxi and suddenly weather is uncooperative where will the car pull? 3. what about the charging , all super chargers will need to be wireless for robotaxis 4. Parking lots needing human inputs like credit card payment how will fsd handle 5. Reverse is very tricky , they have not figured out how they will handle this 6. cameras cannot distinguish between a white light background and a truck with white back ,it thinks its the same which caused many accidents , same issue with strong sunlight blinding the cameras - Many many such cases where fsd is impractical and we are many years away from a steering free robotaxis that self operates ..
@basicallyhumanhmmm you are basically saying that the car/a.i must become self-aware.
GPT did not hit a ceiling. They only train a new model every 1-2 years and it’s a huge effort. There is little incremental progress in between.
GPT5 will likely launch sometime this year. Then we will see. I expect significant progress.
Same with this. Tesla just needs to throw more training data and more compute. Then it will soon be much better then humans.
The only question is how large they can make their model and still have it fit the built in hardware, especially FSD computer 3. I am sure 3 will never archived FSD because it can’t run the size of model necessary.
4 is also unlikely but has a better chance.
The best FSD videos, by far. No one else has commentary with the technical insight you provide. I don't even bother watching the others anymore - I just wait for the notification to tell me you have a new video :) Hit that bell people!
So FSD is telling me that those three deer are just two aliens walking a dog.
The cameras see through their disguise, just like they see the ghosts that earlier versions used to stop for. Tesla's camera tech is truly out-of-this-world!
it tried to warn us but we didn't listen. when they take over earth we can't blame but ourselves
😂😂
Eighteen minutes in. Fascinating. i've never said this before: I'm impressed(!)
[also, as ever, by your narration, thank you]
The true value of end to end shines out, what an achievement. Really looking forward to the next six months, or shall we say the next two or three updates. Cheers dude!
Edit: also, these roads are exactly like so many here in the UK, and precisely the sorts of situations I have been concerned about: turn taking for oncoming traffic in narrow roads. V encouraging for when the UNECE regs finally permit us to start doing what you do.
I really would not be surprised if the Tesla Self-Driving engineers are watching every one of your videos to get more context.
Super high quality stuff. These videos must take a lot of work. Thank you for sharing it so openly with us.
You have an amazing channel covering FSD, I always look forward to new video's. Keep it up, you are the best!
WOW, this is simply stunning progress. Top marks to AI DRIVR for spending so much time and effort finding so many funky edge cases and editing it all down into a very interesting video. Thank you so much 🙂
Wow. Great FSD v12 video. You really did good job tested many interesting situations. Can’t wait to see v12 do a three point turn.
Thanks for the excellent video and commentary. After 3 years in a model Y plying the streets around Seattle using FSD, I've become a bit frustrated at the slowing pace of improvements. Seeing V12's improvements in handling oncoming traffic on narrow roads is encouraging. My neighbor who drives a '19 Model X says they'll never solve self-driving but after watching your early edition of V12 I think he is wrong. Hopefully, the software team will get the car's behavior to react safely to what the visualization clearly showed at 29:22. I'm looking forward to getting V12!
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Quality video, sir. I cannot wait to get V12 so I show how it handles Seattle and its challenges. Cheers
Thanks bro! THAT was a test that had some of everything in it and v12 will become better because of it. I don’t fret too much of the misjudgments by it because it needs to adjust and learn. That session should really kick the learning database up a notch. Great video!
Amazing progress. I have already stopped hoping of a real autopilot in the nearest future, but this give me hope :)
Thanks for the video!
Thank you very much! I live in Europe and was starting to wonder, whether all roads in the US look like the vids from Omar. Good to see that FSD can do more than driving downtown on wide roads.
As living in England i would love to see this work in roads like cornwall. Cause those are tight and you need to be confident in small spaces.
Man the visualization in the intro is the funniest thing ever:
Reality: Deer, deer, deer.
Meanwhile Tesla vision:
Dog, dog, dog;
Human, dog, dog;
Cyclist, dog;
Human, human, dog;
Cyclist with a trailer shaped like a car;
Perpendicular cyclist.
The Berkeley hills are really stressful to drive through, this is pretty amazing to see
Haha, the deer moment was so cute!
Thanks for all the effort you put into your videos!
I love your FSD videos-the visuals, commentary, and summary. The latest FSD 11 has been very good for me so far, and I use FSD all the time. I can’t use a car without FSD. I am so relaxed when using it and enjoy the visuals and the scenery so much more. I love taking it through curvy, tight roads like the one you took it through, and let me tell you, it has blown my mind with its capabilities and negotiating skills. I can’t wait to try version 12.
This is a huge leap! It feels so natural and smart, judging the situations so well!
Been waiting for your video clips ever since the very first v12 one. Nicely done bro !!! ❤
The roads shown here reminds me of the roads in England, Cornwall. Pretty cool to see that in America. I’m used to seeing houses and the roads with them being big and spaced out in America, but here it’s small and compact like you would find in Cornwall.
Interesting video seeing how the care behaves too!
watching this version makes me feel FSD is really close. Appreciate how you show us FSD true performance without skipping anything. Thank you!
it feels about as confident as and drives quite similarly to a beginner driver mostly and that’s amazing
Beg to differ. You haven’t had a 16 year old in your car in a while I’d assume
They’d die on roads like that. Tight spaces. Construction. 3 way splitting lanes. People in the road. Who has right of way to yield and pull over.
No. Not a beginner driver. A beginner driver wouldn’t drive this
@@ssing7113 Totally agree.
@@ssing7113 In Australia learner drivers (so 16 year olds) are statistically the safest drivers on the road
@@No_True_Scotsman sorry BS. If you're out in the middle of nowhere, then yes, you're not going to get in the accident, but they can't handle tough driving situations.
@@6681096 You are objectively wrong. You could have looked it up instead of embarrassing yourself. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a well established statistical fact. Your vague feelings on the matter do not override objective reality.
Ah yes, my favourite Tesla ASMR just in for the weekend. Perfect!
I'm very impressed! Where FSD succeeded in this drive far outweighs where it failed, compared to previous versions. The fact that it excelled way more than it failed, tells me that they have gone up another level. Further, the way it excelled in difficult edge cases, lays the pathway to excel in way more difficult edge cases. Please can you go back to the episode from the start, where people suggested hard intersections and the underpass with multiple entry exit points. Have followed you from the start and would love to see you test that again. Love your work!! It's most important :)
Just subscribed, I think that I have come across your videos before but this time your detailed analysis really hit me, great job! Especially enjoyed the "I think it grew a pair" at he 16:15 min mark...lol.... Cheers
re. 22:51:
The destination point was so close after the "except local traffic" area that I (and some others) might consider going through there absolutely reasonable.
We have similar access limitations in Germany as permanent traffic control ("Anlieger frei") and _I_ would not have hesitated to enter in the same situation as it is not clear how deep the limitation ("local traffic only") goes - it was reasonable to assume that _you are local traffic_.
Local traffic means you live on that street that is blocked off with that sign.
@@jessiejanson1528 SRC.?
That's what people here THINK "Anlieger frei" means too.
Man I love these videos
How can filming just driving a car be so interesting?? AIDRVR, you are doing a great job!
This is absolutely my favorite channel to watch when it comes to FSD beta videos, by far!
I have been wondering why we had not seen more videos from you , but I can now see what you have been doing.
What an excellent video.
Just the fact you can fast forward through so much because it’s “ unremarkable “ is amazing I’m so hopeful for this approach as it is just doing so much. You have had to up your game so much in trying to find more difficult things to test it on .
Just a joy to watch.
Best FSD video ever... except I vomited at 22:20 after all the curves in fast forward. 🤣
I want V12 even more NOW!!
This video was hilarious! I definitely enjoyed you picking apart this goofy car's personality
I don't know what it is about your FSD videos specifically, but I always find them interesting whereas most, but not all others, bore me to tears.
I think there's a certain level of analysis and understanding that comes from your having worked at Tesla, along with a certain positive attitude and enthusiasm about not just FSD or technology as a whole, but life in general.
29:31 it had the creep limit at the center of that road for a split second. I wonder if it thought it had the right of way?.. for some odd reason lol. But yea that's a rough disengagement.
Awesome video upload. These videos are becoming super impressive.
Everytime I'm telling myself to just have a quick look but end up watching your video end-to-end. Really well done! And it seems like through all these years, paying attention to nuances you probably become one of the best human drivers as well, learning from the autopilots mistakes/awkwardness :D
Your 3 point turn assessment sounds spot on to me
It would be really interesting to see V12 behaviour in heavy rush-hours traffic
Heavy traffic is prob the easiest problem set for FSD/AP to solve
@@Mpr47276 I doubt it. Its assertiveness is quite low for much of the places in the world with heavy traffic. Also, the 100% vision system is not yet refined to the level where it could afford to be much more confident. Try googling "Bucharest traffic" and you'll change your mind, trust me.
It would probably handle it much better tbh. FSD was probably trained extensively on that, considering that is one of the most dangerous situations for pedestrians and cars a like. Like in New York.
BMW has had this for over a year. Tesla needs to get with the times
@@G82Watts how good is it really. I just did a little research on it, and it will only allow you to go up to 37miles per hour😆😆😆 that is pathetic. Also, you are talking mainly about Level 3 driving assist, which BMW has. However, the regular Autopilot in Tesla has had the capabilities of Level 3 forever, even if not recognized as such. This FSD has the capabilities of Level 4, even if considered, for some reason, level 2.
Thanks again for such a high quality video in every way. The progress Tesla has made is so encouraging.
You should rename your channel the Dusk Project
Great effort my friend . i have seen many videos of FSD 12 but you take the testing and the quality of the video edits to a whole new level . Best tester on RUclips by miles . Congrats . keep doing please i love these
It's amazing to see FSD 12 prioritizing smoothness. Which is key to being predictable for other humans in our traffic system. It looks like v12 learned the "go or no go" mentality, and not hesitate endlessly, making the car way more predictable. The best examples being the costco parking lot and the biker here. hesitating in these situations is what causes accidents. Either you stop or you shoot the gap and it seems to do it wonderfully.
Thanks. As always, the best FSD Beta narration. And what a great couple of drives. The improvements are immense.
It probably will take 3-4 more months for a wide release and possibly longer. But the progress is amazing.
Look VERY promising !!!
Very much enjoying the overlay of FSD, the road and the topview of the car - excellent editing choice !!!
Absolutely love your video's, the overlap of the screen, your commentary, the sped-up at non critical driving parts and the counting of the criticial and non critical interventions. Top notch.
One tip you might add is a color dot counter on the top side of the screen (like a lifebar in fight games) that counts all the critical/non-critical or other kinds of interventions.
That way it's easy to compare in the future with other video's, as hopefully these color dots will become less and less.
What an incredible collection of edge-cases in one drive! Fantastic editing, as always. You da best!
Once again, failed at some of the simplest, normal scenarios while doing amazingly and surprisingly well at the weird and unusual. Quite baffling!
But my god was it impressive the vat majority of the time! SO much smoother than it used to be! That final yield scenario, in particular, was *chef's kiss*
I usually skip sponsored content but I don’t for this channel! You deserve support
Appreciate it, I always put chapters to make it easy to skip. I’m sure everyone already knows what the best VPN is by now lol
It is a simple fact, admitted by multiple other Tesla fan testers like Chuck Cook and Dirty Tesla, that Tesla FSD will never work as promised. It will never be more than Level 2 because the hardware has zero redundancy (like radar), the computer thinks much too slowly (especially in reacting to fast moving traffic) and the software is endlessly buggy even after 7 years. Getting excited about certain improvements while other aspects clearly move backwards may be fine for some but most people do not enjoy being the victims of fraud.
Great narration of a challenging course for V12. The best test of a challenging drive I've seen.
Great to see the progress V12 has made. The visualizations and commentary in AI DRIVR's videos are next level, better than actually driving the car. In the car, I have to keep my eyes on the road and other traffic, and can only glance at the visualization on the screen occasionally.
It would be great to see how V12 does on 40-50 mph suburban streets to see if "lane drift," and inappropriate lane selection to follow route, have been reduced or eliminated.
Wow, that was a VERY interesting drive, filled with lots of edge cases! Thank-you for posting.
For me, the easiest of the "critical disengagements" for Tesla to solve would be the stop sign held by the construction worker. The car needs to know that this isn't just a stop-then-go stop sign. Generally speaking, V12 is acting SO much more human-like, and is operating in a way that makes other drivers much more able to predict what it will do.
It’s not difficult at all to solve. It just doesn’t happen often so the amount of training clips is small. I’d expect it to be solved by the end of summer, I mean, road construction season.
where i live roads like these are very common, this gives me a lot of hope for the future of FSD. great content as always!
The thing that surprises me is that you recognize situations where it's not being cautious enough, but you praise it when that same level of confidence works out and delivers a satisfying experience. I think the true problem that is being overlooked is that with no programming at all for the rules logic, it's going to be very difficult to have perfect confidence that the system will never make a critical mistake. Today, the system usually performs left turns okay. It usually doesn't run red lights. It usually doesn't hit parked cars. But with no programming acting as a safety net to guard against these behaviors, we're seeing exceptions to all of these successes, even with only a tiny number of trials. I don't know how that number gets to 0 just by increasing the data. It seems as if it will become much more rare, but because Tesla doesn't know _why_ it makes the decisions it does, it also won't be able to predict the scenarios that screw it up.
You mentioned Cruise here, and I think we should talk about that more fully. Their vehicle screwed up because a pedestrian lying on the ground directly next to the car was not detected by it. The pedestrian was struck by another vehicle and knocked into the path of the Cruise, and after being on the ground, the Cruise no longer understood the pedestrian was there, and it dragged her. I don't think FSD has a solution for situations like this. I think that if we put a child lying on the ground next to the car, start the car and start FSD, it can run that child over, just like the Cruise did with that pedestrian. And yes, that's an absolute edge case. But it's obviously one that happened. So how does Tesla get to a perfect confidence level with its current hardware that enables it to allow these vehicles to start up, drive across town and pick us up?
On the cruise - he is talking about a different video where cruise programmers had to manually code how to handle cyclists- ruclips.net/video/0soagwpOGqs/видео.htmlsi=7HjHAS_dW9T_wEPt
@@aguzman222 Thanks for sharing the video. That's an unfortunately misleading work, but it shows how much misunderstanding there is about all of this. In this video, the line that I'm referring to is when he said, "We all saw how that turned out." Cruise was banned from autonomous operation in California after dragging a pedestrian, and my impression is that he was joking about that. I could be mistaken.
Great video: At 19:05, where Tesla follows the guy and he doesnt have clue you're there - I have a pro tip for Tesla. I drive a 2012 PHEV Chevy Volt and they have a solution for these situations - Chevy has this very slight little tiny honk that you can use for pedestrians awareness
Great drive. Great description. You really tested it in a very difficult situation.
Before watching this, I thought true FSD is probably about a year away.
Now, I'm thinking six or eight months.
We're very close.
I like your videos over all other FSD videos. One suggestion. I know it's not winter where you are, but maybe Canada has a pretty good winter. It would be nice if you took a road trip to some Canadian city where it's winter and there's a lot of snow on the streets, so we could see how the FSD copes with the slightly more demanding conditions.
Excellent improvement in v12b. I'm on v11 and eager to get hands on (or hands-free!). Very nice demo. Keep up the great work pls!
So impressive!!! It is wonderful to see this progress and despite the 3 critical disengagements, fantastic!!!
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Brilliant video. I think this also demonstrates why it would be Healy great to clearly mark self driving cars with really clear signage . That way people would know ,not to flash or use hand signals to that car.
This would be a great help during the change over period.
Damn I was glued to the screen for the entirety of this video. Great editing with great commentary as always. I'm so fascinated bz this technologz and its fast progress! Thanks for making these videos
Excellent format. Love the tally at the end, agree 100% with approach
the best FSD video I have seen since its inception! very well done!
Wow just wow ! Thanks for making these videos and sharing with all of us - the progress with FSD is real
Hell I don't even own a tesla but man, watching the fsd evolve like this really feels like they're on track for a best autonomous vehicle. this is amazing
The bike interaction at 15:49 looks totally OK to me (and I've done a lot of bike riding in traffic). The key here is very accurate detection of the bikes speed and position (which is pretty slow, they're going up hill).
Would love to see some more testing of bike interactions that are a lot closer or trickier.
Really enjoyed this video, love the fsd overlay and the way you explain things. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for showing the Safety-Critical disengagements. I’ve seen several other serious issues on other videos. It seems like Tesla is having a lot of difficulty resolving them. FSD v12 has been in test, first by employees, and now by a number of customers, for over 3 months, and still does appear to be ready for a larger release to the experienced Beta testers.
I mean holy crap that's a really tricky environment to drive in. Windy road, cars parked all over the place, lack of lights. It's really impressive to be able to drive itself at all :D
The overlays are great! Your editing is always excellent. Keep it up!
Honestly this covers a lot of very challenging situations. But the deer is icing on the cake.
I wish you could see me clapping, what fantastic video editing and explanation.
Super awesome video. EXACTLY the kind of FSD-videos we need!
Great job! Thanks for taking the time and sharing it with the community.
I enjoy watching yur drives in the Brekely Hills. I know how challenging it is, having done it myself. Your videos are always top notch. Very impressive behavior by FSD.
i haven't watched a video since v11 and i must say, this is looking super impressive so far
Great video! I appreciate your opinions and objective critique. Your video production is the best of all the FSD influencers.
Love watching you watch your car drive itself
Best FSD coverage on the internet.
I’m very familiar with all these streets and I’m super impressed with how V12 handled them. So much so that I would purchase it if only I knew I could transfer it to a new car later on…
Didn’t know about any of this until this popped into my feed. Seeing FSD is super cool.
the best v12 video so far. Thank you!
best FSD videos ever, you have earned a new subscriber !
I find this all so fascinating. Thank you for making this video and your expert narration.
Excellent job… WOW, to both you and the FSD. Like someone else said, it gives me hope that we are not too far away from level 4 or 5
Loved to see somewhat acceptable turn signal usage! Even if FSD never improved here, I wouldn't totally hate it.
Re: lead cars. A lead car provides indirect information you don't otherwise have. If they are not slowing down, you can be much more confident there are no surprises around those blind curves. Human drivers rely on this as well, which, since v12 is trained on DWHWD ("Do What a Human Would Do"), means it learned this behavior from us.
At one point you mentioned it was "driving too much like a local". I'll be impressed when I can put it in 'training' mode, take it for a one hour drive, put it in FSD and have it drive like I do as far as speeds, acceleration, politeness and 'local norms'.
Thanks for making these videos! I hope we in europe will get this also at some point in time.