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I want to see an Optimus be roboTaxied into the event, get out of the car, get a package from the back, walk upstairs, present the package to Elon, turn around, wave to the audience, go back to the RoboTaxi, and head off into the sunset.
New info about FSD in europe and maybe info about a smaller, cheaper car. If they show something like a Robotaxi driving, i‘m sceptical, because they faked a FSD video years ago…
My guess is HW5 for the robotaxi-and given they’re no longer advertising Full-Self Driving without the “Supervised” for new HW4 cars, I’m hoping some way to upgrade cars to HW5. Maybe for HW4, all thats needed is a free upgrade to silicon with more ML compute. Since HW3 cars have older cameras with some blind spots, they may offer a “free” upgrade if you contribute your car to the robotaxi fleet when not in use, since HW3 cars by far make up largest share of Teslas on the road. Or more likely, were never getting human-free FSD for older HW models and Elon is laughing all the way to the bank with our FSD purchase :/
It's wild to me that the biggest complaint we have now is that it accelerates too slowly (or more accurately, takes too long to get up to the appropriate speed). It definitely has some things left to implement (parking, reversing, 3 point turns, pick-up/drop-off) and some weird edge cases, but for the most part it's really good.
I think the biggest problem is that they can’t go more than a few hundred miles on average before critical disengagement. It’s not just a matter of time, the current approach will never bridge the chasm. They are literally orders of magnitude away from leaders in the field. It’s amazing what they do with just RGB cameras but given the current state of computer vision technology, it will never be enough.
Why did you add “or more accurately, takes too long to get up to the appropriate speed”😂 That’s just what “accelerates too slowly” means. It’s not a more accurate description; it’s just saying the same thing twice lmao
No need to apologize for the editing on this video. You did great. Providing lots of footage of 12.5.6 in a timely manner, before going to the 10/10 event is appreciated. FSD is really maturing fast now.
As a german I'm often shocked how vague your speed limits are set and how many people ignore them. Here in Germany, most of us only drive 5 - 10 kph over the speed limit on city streets. And seeing limits like 25, 35 and 40 mph is very strange. Here you either have a speed limit of 30 or 50 kph within city limits. On very rare occasions 20 but that's mostly it. Always interesting to see how different our friends overseas live :) Drive safe!
@@gobl-analienabductedbyhuma5387 yeah we take our speed limits very serios hahahaha. Either people drive a bit slower than the speed limit or they drive a bit higher than the speed limit. But no one dares to drive more than 10kph above the speed limit here. And that is already seen as a bold move.
@@gobl-analienabductedbyhuma5387 no offence but I don't think italian driving is much of a comparable baseline, really....same with france... I mean you have nothing on slav countries but christ your driving ain't good.... :'D
Starting to creep on green is massive! It shows intent to the cars behind, informing them you aren’t asleep but have seen the green and is ready to pounce. If all drivers did that it would relieve so much unnecessary traffic pile ups
It uses real ppl data with some influence from its driver (At least, it used to have that 2nd component too). Probably lots of ppl like driving at 69mph so that's what the AI is trained to do.
Can't wait till i get it. I did a road trip from Tucson to Los Angeles and back last week and only took over once, and it was unnecessary. And that was on 12.3 on city streets, but i think it was still v11 on highways. The only time i took over was coming into LA there was an interchange that was backed up nearly a mile and the car wanted to blow past everyone and merge at the last second, but I'm not that kinda driver.
"the car wanted to blow past everyone and merge at the last second, but I'm not that kinda driver." There you are! I found one of the courteous drivers! Interesting point about FSD being 'one of those types of people' in a situation like that, as if it knows it's in LA where it is just trying to fit in with the other a-hole drivers!
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You're the best FSD RUclips channel out there in my opinion. Top-notch comments and I really like the new fast-forward editing as well. Thank you for your efforts to show us all this!
I can’t wait for the Tesla event tomorrow man. I also resubscribed to FSD yesterday and got 2024.32.10 (FSD 12.5.4.1) and holy shit it’s impressive do FSD man. ASS is a huuuuge improvement over the old USS Smart Summon. And FSD itself is doing some major things it couldn’t do before for me, can’t wait for this one now! Tesla is fucking killing it man. 🥳
What did you think of the event Also, did you know you'd get 2024.32.10 when subscribing? I know people that subscribed to fsd this week including a guy that did it yesterday and he's stuck on 2024.32.6 v12.3.6 :/
Videos like these are giving me great joy considering that I paid for FSD in Europe and even Summon here is so restricted that you need to be in the Bluetooth range for it to work (and it works very poorly). My internal idealist part is happy to be sponsoring the move to autonomous driving technology even if I don't benefit it myself directly.
love your videos, this was a quick shot and still just perfect. The way you do it all and comment is the best of all FSD testers by far. Have fun at the event!!!
These nonsense things is the reason why i prefer your videos to any other on the internet. You really see that logic improvements if you pay attention.
Thanks for the heads-up. I live in the UK, where it's not currently legal to have a 100% auto-pilot activated, so it's interesting to see how it works in the real world.
Thank you for producing top-tier videos like this-truly awesome! I agree, aside from the speed limitations, it was very impressive. Congrats to the Tesla AI team! I hope to see End-to-End on highways soon. Have a safe flight and enjoy the event!
Humans are mostly inconsistent at following speed limits, often alternating between going below and above it. It's not strange that the AI adopted the same behavior!
Love your content! Have been following for years! Your demonstrations and progress reports urged me to pull the trigger this year on a model 3 (2018). Watching this texhnology develop is amazing! Great job over the years and great content / delivery !
I look forward to end-to-end on highways. I just did 15 hours of driving in two days with 12.5.4 on HW3, mostly highway miles. The current highway stack is good, but I still had around 6 phantom braking events, and the car kept trying to get into a paid express lane until I set it to minimal lane changes.
The Tesla FSD team work is even more admirable when we consider that they cannot tell the FSD AI simple things in words like "keep the speed at Xx", or "go slow not only for speed bumps, but also for dips" - all they can do as far as I know is to select the correctly performed clips and feed its neural system with it. It does not communicate back like saying, "next time I'll make sure this doesn't happen" or anything like that.
I can't wait for this to be brought to the UK. On an English Motorway, you shouldn't drive in an outside lane if the next inside lane is free. So many dozy people ignore this and hog lanes. FSD seems to have great discipline in being in the correct lane
21:35 You classify it as Outside of Operational Domain, or OOD for short. It's still an intervention, so don't let others tell you otherwise. However, calling it an OOD is more direct in the classification.
I like this implementation of max speed better. Cruise at a speed thats appropriate for the situation but occasionally go faster up to the max for passing. Otherwise if you’re always at max speed, it gets difficult to change lanes with other cars that are going similar speeds
I did experience FSD doing a reverse maneuver surprisingly at an unprotected right turn when it changed its mind as there was an oncoming car. It just backed up a few feet to get out of the way. It’s only happened once so far on 12.5.4.1
Video was great thanks for the getting it out early my model S also has the same speed bump issue over and over so you just have to guard right now for the speed bumps
I think if i was rolling out an update for a new feature (Freeway AI) then I would be cautious with the speed for the first update. It's better that its a bit slower than you want on the freeway than too fast which increases the chance of accidents. Awesome reporting.
I have a few really big issues that looks to be unresolved in FSD 12.5.6 still. -FSD still largely ignores the road surface, including potholes, some/many speedbumps, and likely all kinds of snow and black ice. 98% of FSD videos are in ideal driving conditions. There are no current videos in bad weather or slippery roads. -Still not convinced about the cameras working for FSD in (heavier?)rain and there are very few FSD videos in rain. -There appears to still be short-term desicion making for lane choices, which will be a really hot topic in rush hour traffic. If your car wants to change lane late after driving past a long queue in another lane, the best outcome is other drivers becoming angry (at me and in the long term Teslas) but could also result in being blocked or worse. Not sure what queue etiquette is in the US and other countries though. -Front first perpendicular parking would also be great so I can access the trunk.
I love FSD but it still needs a lot of improvements. 1. it’s not the best at stop signs, the car gets scared when turning especially if cars are going quick. 2.Sometimes on the highway FSD will hit the breaks giving you an unnatural break that you can definitely feel. 3. Reading lanes to the shoulder has an issue and will go super close which is bad when getting off the highway. 4. If too many lights are flashing due to emergencies or road work the car will chose a different route that will go off your destination 5. The speed is not natural in it goes slower then the flow of traffic and lane changes are not smooth in a traffic jam. it will signal to change lanes but if it doesn’t have enough space it won’t take it which is very awkward when communicating with drivers
The last 20% takes 80 % of the time in all software development. Maybe also in NN development. But I think FSD passed that last 20 % a while ago, and we should probably only count time from the start of the end-to-end network development.. Actually, it's pretty hard to know how long time it will take before FSD is better than most drivers, but I guess it will be within a year.
Of all the niggling things that FSD does in my Model Y , the speed it drives is number one on the list. Too fast or too slow and the only way to remedy it is to speed up by depressing the pedal ,or to disengage altogether. I wish you could adjust the speed with the right thumb wheel as allowed by the two auto pilot modes. That would be truly helpful.
Of the many problems, I agree, the speed is the worst. It is ALWAYS too slow in my area. I drive on many 55mph roads and it will vary between 32 to 48 and that's it. Also, if you accel to 60, it will slowly lose speed down to
@@ToledoTerps I10 through NM... anything over speed limit gets ticketed. I was on I40 through Albuquerque (NM) and saw 2 people get ticketed for barely speeding (I was needling the speed limit because of how annoying the highway patrol is in the area).
It started with the oil crisis and to save fuel they dropped the speed limit to 55 nationwide. It took a long time to make the speed limit more realistic and in some areas they still haven't but people got used to speeding over the limit.
12:40 Seems like some of the issues with end to end on highway is similar to the issue that end to end experimental mode with comma ai openpilot currently has (attempting to get up to speed)
Two major major issues I see still, to be able to scale. One is not changing lanes towards the right on the highway when it's completely empty. This is with the thinking of driving in other countries where it's illegal not to move over when able. Two is when stopping behind another car before an intersection, there's always at least space for another car in-between the Tesla and the car in front. Imagine if everyone stopped as far back as the Tesla then there could be issues further back if there is not enough space for cars to clear another intersection or similar. There's no reason not to drive up and stop maybe three to five feet behind the car in front
Great footage and commentary. Your Tesla seems to be engaged in a “ Passive “ drive mode when achieving set speed limits , probably for safety reasons . Amazing how far self driving software is progressing , impressive !
this is the first time watching you. I think maybe you didn't have to talk about you editing or not editing stuff. it seemed fine. I came to watch a AI driving, and thats what it was. thank you.
I love using FSD it’s gone a long ways in just one year. Thank you for submitting snapshots for possible fixes to tesla. I should do that more but I don’t. 😅
the speed increase might be related to battery efficiency, eg being less taxing on the batteries to slowly reach the target speed instead of sudden increase
14:32 I wish FSD knew how to slow down to drop back to make a lane change as opposed to always accelerating as normal and having to sandwich between gaps.
To be fair I've never encountered an edge case where the vehicle actually needed to put itself in reverse. If it got itself into a sticky situation in the first place then that's an intervention, but yeah ASS in particular has a long ways to go. My one experience with it, it pulled out and drove down the wrong direction in a one way parking lane. Totally embarrassing and I'm excited for the future where I can be more confident with it.
@@UniqueApparently of course the car will be able to reverse, and ASS is the proof. They are executing extremely fast, in sure it'll happen soon. Btw, people in other countries are waiting as well...
In regards to complaints about being slow, I think it makes sense if Tesla intentionally tries to prioritize other issues than speed. Because being slow is neither critical nor dangerous - not every driver feels the need to drive at the speed limit! I'm Czech, living in Central Europe, and belong to drivers who prefer being as close as possible to the speed limit. There are many built in areas where we have now the 50km/h speed limit. I try to honor that, but close to where I live and where I know are stretches of the road technically within this limit but in reality they shouldn't be for practical reasons, I go faster, sometimes even by 20km/h as I know there is extremely low chance to be caught. But watching the speed offsets you Americans presume are fine makes me think if you perhaps need a complete overhaul of your system?! Like, what's the point of 55mi/h limit when everyone drives 70 there and feels entitled to it? I remember in Australia towards the end of eighties, the Victoria police chief forced through some tough laws about speed limits. All money they collected on fines were channelled to better equipment like speed cameras, and people were surprised they were suddenly penalized where there was a 60km/h limit and they drove 62 they got a fat fine! But it took just about less than half a year and everyone drove slowly exactly by the rules. Now when I think about it again after these many years, I think it was good. Sometimes I cannot believe I was chasing a company event in Lorne and drove 170km/h to get there in time - but that was over forty years ago. I would never do that today. Nowadays, I live at a place where it is difficult to overtake the slow drivers (on the way to capital, Prague, from my peaceful rural township), and often think the slow drivers are pest, but still, what do I know, it is usually a lady or an older guy, well they have the right to drive slowly, especially when "slowly" means "exactly by the rules". So maybe, just maybe, when there is more autonomous traffic around (I mean in the US), it would make sense to overhaul the speed limits to bring them to reality people are willing to obey, but then make sure these new limits are followed with the risk of fines for speeding basically everywhere? The increase of autonomy should also prompt actions like ensuring the confusing signage is fixed, maybe the autonomous cars could be sending automated information to the DMV for changing the hidden signs etc.? Like sometimes, there could be a temporary signage where someone moves the sign and turns a stop sign 90° to the left, which would mean stopping the car where it shouldn't. This could be easily reported by Tesla cars today if there was a will.
It's a different stack on highway I believe! There was a leak a little while ago about how the v12 e2e model didn't work well on highways, so they were developing a separate model. I think that's why the profiles only work on highways for now but hopefully they bring them to the city streets model
I love these videos and your commentary! It is pretty incredible to see how much FSD has progressed over the years that youtubers, such as yourself, have been testing, documenting, and sharing. I fully believe and agree with the idea that AVs and eventually CAVs will bring a massive sea change in roadway safety. Computers are just better at handling all of this information consistently. One thing I urge you to consider when making your videos; adopting the tendencies of human drivers that make our roadways less safe should not be celebrated. Stop lines are painted on the ground to ensure that vehicles stop before points of conflict to ensure safety. Speed limits have been perverted to essentially becoming the speed minimum and with AVs we have an opportunity to set governors ensuring that AVs on the road are abiding by the speed limit. This is less important on interstates and other controlled access freeways (there actually might be an opportunity to *increase* the speed limits on CAFs), but it is critically important on city streets. The speed limit is 25, AVs should not be allowed to proceed faster than 25. Thanks again for sharing these videos and I hope you find my suggestion worthy of some sort of incorporation into your work. AVs and CAVs are the future, folks like yourself will be called on to help set policy and new rules, ensure that safety of all roads users is front of mind.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience. It has been incredibly valuable to me. I look forward to the opportunity to learn more from you in the future.
Wow! It's really mind blowing. It is also very impresive to see, for example here: 23:19 , how it can guess (or see?) Positions of traffic on the opposite side of the highway, even with a high barrier blocking the view. How is it even possible?
An excellent video thank you. I would say counting a disengagement ,because the car got stuck ,is unfair, as we are well aware it is not something it is allowed to do yet.
I've had 12.5.5 for almost 2 weeks on Long Island and it cuts the corners too close. A couple of days ago it hit the curb making a right turn with a curb that is approximately a 110 degree angle. With other similar wide angle turns it has had indecision, and jerks so I intervene. When exiting a Parkway it waits a little too long to move to the right and if there is traffic, it can't move over and will miss the exit. Otherwise, it's been flawless! 12.5.6 looks like it only added Hurry on the highway.
I have been using the FSD for several weeks. My issue is I have found that the system does not move toward a freeway change soon enough - it waits until the truck is only a 1/4 mile from the freeway change before it starts to move lane to lane toward taking the freeway switch. Twice it did not make the freeway switch. The nav system gives the voice prompt but it does not begin immediately trying to change lanes from the fast lane over to the off-ramp to the next freeway. Next issue is the system stays in the center of every lane - rather than hugging the left lane painted line. On a wide street lane it keeps traffic behind from passing on my right to take a right turn. I don’t agree that it rides in the lane properly. And it needs to start moving lanes to make a change of freeway or to make a hey turn.
I drive Uber full-time, and I have a Model Y 2024 HWV4. I use FSD in almost every trip I do. When talking about speeding, it will maintain whatever speed it needs to keep battery levels stable. It's driving for efficiency not performance. At least in my experience.
Actually really liked the casual reporting in this video :). After the We Robot event, now that there is a Cybertaxi, anything that requires the steering wheel or paddles is an intervention....
9:45 stopping there is correct. When there are no signs, you're supposed to give way to the person to the right of you if there is one. And in turn, if the person to your left, should give YOU the right of way. This is different on roundabouts where it's actually reversed.
We have just seen where Tesla stands when it comes to autonomous driving. I refer to test drives in Jiangxi, China. The Tesla drove straight ahead into a construction site without braking and cleared everything.
10:39 my favorite is when my car does 35mph past my house that’s on a 25 mph narrow bumpy street 😂 Hope they fix that. - also how are you submitting things to Tesla for review? I thought that button just saved video to the local usb. 17:49 21:17 - yeah had that a few times since 12.3.6
Looks like a nice improvement - but it appears to ride the left lane as much as it did before. On the current not AI stack I've noticed it passes cars fine but it rarely returned to the right or middle lane on its own.
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I find myself still taking over all the time on highways, always having minimal lane changes enabled and manually using the stalks to engage a lane change. I'm still on ol' fashioned 12.5.4 HW3 (Even on "advanced" update settings I find myself to be one of the unlucky few to get software updates last) and the highway driving to me has always been no better than autosteer. I would straight up use autosteer instead if it weren't for the inferior visualizations, so I'm definitely excited for the new highway improvements.
I have been using the FSD for several weeks. My issue is I have found that the system does not move toward a freeway change soon enough - it waits until the truck is only a 1/4 mile from the freeway change before it starts to move lane to lane toward taking the freeway switch. Twice it did not make the freeway switch. The nav system gives the voice prompt but it does not begin immediately trying to change lanes from the fast lane over to the off-ramp to the next freeway. Next issue is the system stays in the center of every lane - rather than hugging the left lane painted line. On a wide street lane it keeps traffic behind from passing on my right to take a right turn.
@@logitech4873 ok i get it I just thought that with how careful fsd used to be and tesla being a big corp they would try to avoid letting their self driving software from speeding. but I guess in lots of cars u can set the cc to higher that 70
My biggest problem is when it takes off from a stop or red light. It always wants to go 0 to 40 in 1 second. And today on the freeway it did a lot of breaking for no reason and weird lane changes. Hopefully its better with this update. Ive had my model x for 2 years now and its slowly getting better. And i mean slowly. Lol
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I want to see an Optimus be roboTaxied into the event, get out of the car, get a package from the back, walk upstairs, present the package to Elon, turn around, wave to the audience, go back to the RoboTaxi, and head off into the sunset.
Robotaxi and two other things
New info about FSD in europe and maybe info about a smaller, cheaper car.
If they show something like a Robotaxi driving, i‘m sceptical, because they faked a FSD video years ago…
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My guess is HW5 for the robotaxi-and given they’re no longer advertising Full-Self Driving without the “Supervised” for new HW4 cars, I’m hoping some way to upgrade cars to HW5.
Maybe for HW4, all thats needed is a free upgrade to silicon with more ML compute.
Since HW3 cars have older cameras with some blind spots, they may offer a “free” upgrade if you contribute your car to the robotaxi fleet when not in use, since HW3 cars by far make up largest share of Teslas on the road.
Or more likely, were never getting human-free FSD for older HW models and Elon is laughing all the way to the bank with our FSD purchase :/
It's wild to me that the biggest complaint we have now is that it accelerates too slowly (or more accurately, takes too long to get up to the appropriate speed). It definitely has some things left to implement (parking, reversing, 3 point turns, pick-up/drop-off) and some weird edge cases, but for the most part it's really good.
My biggest complaint is that it runs red lights now when it didn’t used to.
Bears have to repeatedly mention custom street signs and hand signals.
Just tap the accelerator if we want to go faster? 😂
I think the biggest problem is that they can’t go more than a few hundred miles on average before critical disengagement. It’s not just a matter of time, the current approach will never bridge the chasm. They are literally orders of magnitude away from leaders in the field. It’s amazing what they do with just RGB cameras but given the current state of computer vision technology, it will never be enough.
Why did you add “or more accurately, takes too long to get up to the appropriate speed”😂 That’s just what “accelerates too slowly” means. It’s not a more accurate description; it’s just saying the same thing twice lmao
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Wow after fixing the 4 hear old bug, the rendering is extremely smooth with barely noticeable lag! Bravo. Hope it runs just as smooth on older models.
No need to apologize for the editing on this video. You did great. Providing lots of footage of 12.5.6 in a timely manner, before going to the 10/10 event is appreciated. FSD is really maturing fast now.
agreed: really good edits (we dont need to watch uneventful footage in real time anyhow).
Well that event was painful to watch
How do you get an invite to 10/10
Wow mate, that was an awesome video, the overlay, the fast forwarding through the boring bits, the naration, all fantastic.
It's been a long time since an ai drivr video about FSD. Best quality and commentary on FSD
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@@chuckxu5910 hardware is not downloadable lol
@@chuckxu5910 haha yeah I was just being dumb. I’m mad I’m still on 12.3.6 haha
feels weird seeing my everyday commute on videos like these. awesome work!
As a german I'm often shocked how vague your speed limits are set and how many people ignore them. Here in Germany, most of us only drive 5 - 10 kph over the speed limit on city streets. And seeing limits like 25, 35 and 40 mph is very strange. Here you either have a speed limit of 30 or 50 kph within city limits. On very rare occasions 20 but that's mostly it. Always interesting to see how different our friends overseas live :) Drive safe!
I was just in Germany and was shocked having a car in front of me driving 28 in a 30 zone in a village. Not used to it in Italia!
@@gobl-analienabductedbyhuma5387 One of my friends is also from Italy and he was in several accidents already, cause everyone driving crazy lmao
@@gobl-analienabductedbyhuma5387 yeah we take our speed limits very serios hahahaha. Either people drive a bit slower than the speed limit or they drive a bit higher than the speed limit. But no one dares to drive more than 10kph above the speed limit here. And that is already seen as a bold move.
It becomes political, cultural, or a “revenue producer” in some areas. Yes, a more universal standard would be GREAT! 👍
@@gobl-analienabductedbyhuma5387 no offence but I don't think italian driving is much of a comparable baseline, really....same with france... I mean you have nothing on slav countries but christ your driving ain't good.... :'D
Starting to creep on green is massive! It shows intent to the cars behind, informing them you aren’t asleep but have seen the green and is ready to pounce. If all drivers did that it would relieve so much unnecessary traffic pile ups
I think Elon baked 69 mph into the system somehow. My car seems to prefer 69 mph on highways whenever possible.
It uses real ppl data with some influence from its driver (At least, it used to have that 2nd component too). Probably lots of ppl like driving at 69mph so that's what the AI is trained to do.
The names of Tesla car models spell S3XY. It’s no accident😂
nice.
69.420mph 😮😂
I'm kidding
@@brunoaisMaybe, but he's a total troll. Models of cars are sxy ffs. You think he wouldn't do that to screw with people?
personally I really like the fast forward moments. Yes its awesome to see every nit pick but I loved this newer style of editing
Can't wait till i get it. I did a road trip from Tucson to Los Angeles and back last week and only took over once, and it was unnecessary. And that was on 12.3 on city streets, but i think it was still v11 on highways. The only time i took over was coming into LA there was an interchange that was backed up nearly a mile and the car wanted to blow past everyone and merge at the last second, but I'm not that kinda driver.
"the car wanted to blow past everyone and merge at the last second, but I'm not that kinda driver." There you are! I found one of the courteous drivers!
Interesting point about FSD being 'one of those types of people' in a situation like that, as if it knows it's in LA where it is just trying to fit in with the other a-hole drivers!
I drove over 2 hours on Cybertruck FSD with 0 interventions today! Happy 10/10!
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@@erkangorgulu6013 good point, my apologies I misspoke
Man, the editing and gadgets on his video keeps getting more advanced. He even has a geiger counter beeping at 28:13
Bravo, JD. Still amazing production value, and it was the right move to put out a new video.😎
I just wanted to say that I appreciate the time stamps around the advertisement, you respect our time and I'm glad to help with a like and a comment! Thanks for your work!
You're the best FSD RUclips channel out there in my opinion. Top-notch comments and I really like the new fast-forward editing as well. Thank you for your efforts to show us all this!
I can’t wait for the Tesla event tomorrow man. I also resubscribed to FSD yesterday and got 2024.32.10 (FSD 12.5.4.1) and holy shit it’s impressive do FSD man. ASS is a huuuuge improvement over the old USS Smart Summon. And FSD itself is doing some major things it couldn’t do before for me, can’t wait for this one now! Tesla is fucking killing it man. 🥳
What did you think of the event
Also, did you know you'd get 2024.32.10 when subscribing? I know people that subscribed to fsd this week including a guy that did it yesterday and he's stuck on 2024.32.6 v12.3.6 :/
Videos like these are giving me great joy considering that I paid for FSD in Europe and even Summon here is so restricted that you need to be in the Bluetooth range for it to work (and it works very poorly). My internal idealist part is happy to be sponsoring the move to autonomous driving technology even if I don't benefit it myself directly.
I like this editing version, skipping through the boring bits and getting to the nit and gritty..best FSD channel around.
love your videos, this was a quick shot and still just perfect. The way you do it all and comment is the best of all FSD testers by far. Have fun at the event!!!
These nonsense things is the reason why i prefer your videos to any other on the internet. You really see that logic improvements if you pay attention.
Thanks for the heads-up. I live in the UK, where it's not currently legal to have a 100% auto-pilot activated, so it's interesting to see how it works in the real world.
Thank you for producing top-tier videos like this-truly awesome! I agree, aside from the speed limitations, it was very impressive. Congrats to the Tesla AI team! I hope to see End-to-End on highways soon. Have a safe flight and enjoy the event!
Humans are mostly inconsistent at following speed limits, often alternating between going below and above it.
It's not strange that the AI adopted the same behavior!
Love your content!
Have been following for years! Your demonstrations and progress reports urged me to pull the trigger this year on a model 3 (2018).
Watching this texhnology develop is amazing!
Great job over the years and great content / delivery !
5:31 I love pointing out little details like that. Things that seemingly "don't matter" but it does contribute to the entire experience.
I look forward to end-to-end on highways. I just did 15 hours of driving in two days with 12.5.4 on HW3, mostly highway miles. The current highway stack is good, but I still had around 6 phantom braking events, and the car kept trying to get into a paid express lane until I set it to minimal lane changes.
How many times did you have to takeover the car while on the highway?
@theperfectkingcake4374 I didn't ever have to take over, but I did press the accelerator pedal a few times during phantom braking events.
Your videos are just incredible. Great meeting you yesterday!!
my pleasure! are you the gentleman I parked next to? I keep thinking about that and how crazy it was. what are the odds!?
We met in the parking structure. I think there was a guy who was talking to you before me. I was the selfie guy. lol.
Great stuff as always - never apologize about poor editing, this was great!
I thoroughly enjoyed your narration! Look forward to more of your FSD videos.
Well dine Tesla team, incredible work
I got an update this morning, on my 8 years old X90D, in Europe v2024.32.7, and the 3D traffic rederings have been super smooth and fast since.
Question, did you get all of the features mentioned in this video?
@cthrower no, Europe doesn't get FSD (Supervised) yet. I just noticed that the mentioned bug fix also seems to apply to the front display of my X90D.
@@MattCasters Thanks...Keep us updated!
20:51 "Right off to our right right now" is a rather funny sentence.
Right?
Love the video. Not even missing the 360 cam with your commentary, explaining what was behind.
8:00 that's an awful lot of traffic it was holding up in the left lane - it was camping in the left lane when it shouldn't have been.
Bro u can overtake in any lane if they wanted to go faster they have to change lanes. Eu is way different tho. But still.
@@MauritsRuiter While it's not illegal to undertake in the right lane, to obstruct traffic in the left lane is. (these laws vary state by state)
That's an HOV lane. It's reserved for vehicles with more than 3 occupants. It's not the same as the regular left-most lane.
78 in a 65 shouldn’t be holding anyone back
The Tesla FSD team work is even more admirable when we consider that they cannot tell the FSD AI simple things in words like "keep the speed at Xx", or "go slow not only for speed bumps, but also for dips" - all they can do as far as I know is to select the correctly performed clips and feed its neural system with it. It does not communicate back like saying, "next time I'll make sure this doesn't happen" or anything like that.
Amazing. Cannot wait for this in Australia
I can't wait for this to be brought to the UK. On an English Motorway, you shouldn't drive in an outside lane if the next inside lane is free. So many dozy people ignore this and hog lanes. FSD seems to have great discipline in being in the correct lane
I can't wait for it to arrive in the UK myself. It will be awesome and I will be one of the first in line!
it's hogging the leftmost lane a majority of the time though
Tesla FSD is level 2 same as Li auto. Nio, Xpeng are level 4 and BYD is level 3 along with Huawei Avatr. Waymo robot taxi is level 4
That stretch of 4 is a great spot to test how it handles people doing 90 weaving in and out of traffic. Lol
21:35 You classify it as Outside of Operational Domain, or OOD for short. It's still an intervention, so don't let others tell you otherwise. However, calling it an OOD is more direct in the classification.
I like this implementation of max speed better. Cruise at a speed thats appropriate for the situation but occasionally go faster up to the max for passing. Otherwise if you’re always at max speed, it gets difficult to change lanes with other cars that are going similar speeds
I did experience FSD doing a reverse maneuver surprisingly at an unprotected right turn when it changed its mind as there was an oncoming car. It just backed up a few feet to get out of the way. It’s only happened once so far on 12.5.4.1
Video was great thanks for the getting it out early my model S also has the same speed bump issue over and over so you just have to guard right now for the speed bumps
I think if i was rolling out an update for a new feature (Freeway AI) then I would be cautious with the speed for the first update. It's better that its a bit slower than you want on the freeway than too fast which increases the chance of accidents. Awesome reporting.
I have a few really big issues that looks to be unresolved in FSD 12.5.6 still.
-FSD still largely ignores the road surface, including potholes, some/many speedbumps, and likely all kinds of snow and black ice. 98% of FSD videos are in ideal driving conditions. There are no current videos in bad weather or slippery roads.
-Still not convinced about the cameras working for FSD in (heavier?)rain and there are very few FSD videos in rain.
-There appears to still be short-term desicion making for lane choices, which will be a really hot topic in rush hour traffic. If your car wants to change lane late after driving past a long queue in another lane, the best outcome is other drivers becoming angry (at me and in the long term Teslas) but could also result in being blocked or worse. Not sure what queue etiquette is in the US and other countries though.
-Front first perpendicular parking would also be great so I can access the trunk.
I love FSD but it still needs a lot of improvements.
1. it’s not the best at stop signs, the car gets scared when turning especially if cars are going quick.
2.Sometimes on the highway FSD will hit the breaks giving you an unnatural break that you can definitely feel.
3. Reading lanes to the shoulder has an issue and will go super close which is bad when getting off the highway.
4. If too many lights are flashing due to emergencies or road work the car will chose a different route that will go off your destination
5. The speed is not natural in it goes slower then the flow of traffic and lane changes are not smooth in a traffic jam. it will signal to change lanes but if it doesn’t have enough space it won’t take it which is very awkward when communicating with drivers
Great video man! Love your contents! I am hoping one day I see you locally! More power to you!
7:06 You don't feel like the robot car is in a hurry? It's violating the speed limit by 5-12mph.
They should make a new drive mode above hurry called “New York.” You try using FSB even on its highest setting in NY you’ll get honked at like crazy.
The last 20% takes 80 % of the time in all software development. Maybe also in NN development.
But I think FSD passed that last 20 % a while ago, and we should probably only count time from the start of the end-to-end network development..
Actually, it's pretty hard to know how long time it will take before FSD is better than most drivers, but I guess it will be within a year.
We're at least five years from FSD being better than the average driver.
10:40 isn't that called "big city pickup" where there are no spots to stop and if you wait for someone, you need to be constantly driving around?
Of all the niggling things that FSD does in my Model Y , the speed it drives is number one on the list. Too fast or too slow and the only way to remedy it is to speed up by depressing the pedal ,or to disengage altogether. I wish you could adjust the speed with the right thumb wheel as allowed by the two auto pilot modes. That would be truly helpful.
Of the many problems, I agree, the speed is the worst. It is ALWAYS too slow in my area. I drive on many 55mph roads and it will vary between 32 to 48 and that's it. Also, if you accel to 60, it will slowly lose speed down to
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Another great video, and as always, your commentary is spot on.
I've been REALLY enjoying end to end in my Cybertruck on 12.5.5. Very much looking forward to the speed profiles when we get 12.5.6+
Are speed limits more of a suggestion in the US? Like being able to/wanting to go 20% over what is signed feels like a lot.
Yep, especially in Texas and california.
Yeah the word limit apparently means minimum to Americans.
Depends on where you are. Some places care more than others. Don’t speed in school zones for sure lol
@@ToledoTerps I10 through NM... anything over speed limit gets ticketed. I was on I40 through Albuquerque (NM) and saw 2 people get ticketed for barely speeding (I was needling the speed limit because of how annoying the highway patrol is in the area).
It started with the oil crisis and to save fuel they dropped the speed limit to 55 nationwide. It took a long time to make the speed limit more realistic and in some areas they still haven't but people got used to speeding over the limit.
12:40
Seems like some of the issues with end to end on highway is similar to the issue that end to end experimental mode with comma ai openpilot currently has (attempting to get up to speed)
Two major major issues I see still, to be able to scale. One is not changing lanes towards the right on the highway when it's completely empty. This is with the thinking of driving in other countries where it's illegal not to move over when able. Two is when stopping behind another car before an intersection, there's always at least space for another car in-between the Tesla and the car in front. Imagine if everyone stopped as far back as the Tesla then there could be issues further back if there is not enough space for cars to clear another intersection or similar. There's no reason not to drive up and stop maybe three to five feet behind the car in front
Great footage and commentary. Your Tesla seems to be engaged in a “ Passive “ drive mode when achieving set speed limits , probably for safety reasons . Amazing how far self driving software is progressing , impressive !
this is the first time watching you. I think maybe you didn't have to talk about you editing or not editing stuff. it seemed fine. I came to watch a AI driving, and thats what it was. thank you.
I love using FSD it’s gone a long ways in just one year. Thank you for submitting snapshots for possible fixes to tesla. I should do that more but I don’t. 😅
Thanks for the video. You are my favorite FSD content creator.
the speed increase might be related to battery efficiency, eg being less taxing on the batteries to slowly reach the target speed instead of sudden increase
14:32 I wish FSD knew how to slow down to drop back to make a lane change as opposed to always accelerating as normal and having to sandwich between gaps.
ngl, i'm new to the channel, am interested in FSD, but your voice is so calming
0:44 that van is tailgating the hell out of that car
The lack of reverse (or just switching to summon reverse FFS) is getting irritating.
Oh no your self driving car can't do 100% of the way, only 99% 😢😢
To be fair I've never encountered an edge case where the vehicle actually needed to put itself in reverse. If it got itself into a sticky situation in the first place then that's an intervention, but yeah ASS in particular has a long ways to go. My one experience with it, it pulled out and drove down the wrong direction in a one way parking lane. Totally embarrassing and I'm excited for the future where I can be more confident with it.
@@niking92 99% is being very generous. I’d call it 92% fleet average
@@UniqueApparently of course the car will be able to reverse, and ASS is the proof. They are executing extremely fast, in sure it'll happen soon. Btw, people in other countries are waiting as well...
@@niking92 exactly right! They need to get these stitched together already and get this project moving
In regards to complaints about being slow, I think it makes sense if Tesla intentionally tries to prioritize other issues than speed. Because being slow is neither critical nor dangerous - not every driver feels the need to drive at the speed limit!
I'm Czech, living in Central Europe, and belong to drivers who prefer being as close as possible to the speed limit. There are many built in areas where we have now the 50km/h speed limit. I try to honor that, but close to where I live and where I know are stretches of the road technically within this limit but in reality they shouldn't be for practical reasons, I go faster, sometimes even by 20km/h as I know there is extremely low chance to be caught. But watching the speed offsets you Americans presume are fine makes me think if you perhaps need a complete overhaul of your system?! Like, what's the point of 55mi/h limit when everyone drives 70 there and feels entitled to it? I remember in Australia towards the end of eighties, the Victoria police chief forced through some tough laws about speed limits. All money they collected on fines were channelled to better equipment like speed cameras, and people were surprised they were suddenly penalized where there was a 60km/h limit and they drove 62 they got a fat fine! But it took just about less than half a year and everyone drove slowly exactly by the rules. Now when I think about it again after these many years, I think it was good. Sometimes I cannot believe I was chasing a company event in Lorne and drove 170km/h to get there in time - but that was over forty years ago. I would never do that today.
Nowadays, I live at a place where it is difficult to overtake the slow drivers (on the way to capital, Prague, from my peaceful rural township), and often think the slow drivers are pest, but still, what do I know, it is usually a lady or an older guy, well they have the right to drive slowly, especially when "slowly" means "exactly by the rules".
So maybe, just maybe, when there is more autonomous traffic around (I mean in the US), it would make sense to overhaul the speed limits to bring them to reality people are willing to obey, but then make sure these new limits are followed with the risk of fines for speeding basically everywhere?
The increase of autonomy should also prompt actions like ensuring the confusing signage is fixed, maybe the autonomous cars could be sending automated information to the DMV for changing the hidden signs etc.?
Like sometimes, there could be a temporary signage where someone moves the sign and turns a stop sign 90° to the left, which would mean stopping the car where it shouldn't. This could be easily reported by Tesla cars today if there was a will.
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It's a different stack on highway I believe! There was a leak a little while ago about how the v12 e2e model didn't work well on highways, so they were developing a separate model. I think that's why the profiles only work on highways for now but hopefully they bring them to the city streets model
I love these videos and your commentary! It is pretty incredible to see how much FSD has progressed over the years that youtubers, such as yourself, have been testing, documenting, and sharing.
I fully believe and agree with the idea that AVs and eventually CAVs will bring a massive sea change in roadway safety. Computers are just better at handling all of this information consistently.
One thing I urge you to consider when making your videos; adopting the tendencies of human drivers that make our roadways less safe should not be celebrated. Stop lines are painted on the ground to ensure that vehicles stop before points of conflict to ensure safety. Speed limits have been perverted to essentially becoming the speed minimum and with AVs we have an opportunity to set governors ensuring that AVs on the road are abiding by the speed limit. This is less important on interstates and other controlled access freeways (there actually might be an opportunity to *increase* the speed limits on CAFs), but it is critically important on city streets. The speed limit is 25, AVs should not be allowed to proceed faster than 25.
Thanks again for sharing these videos and I hope you find my suggestion worthy of some sort of incorporation into your work. AVs and CAVs are the future, folks like yourself will be called on to help set policy and new rules, ensure that safety of all roads users is front of mind.
Somewhere around the @13:00 you mentioned it being an intervention free drive so far but earlier you did intervene to get it out of the “loop”
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Nuh uh
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience. It has been incredibly valuable to me. I look forward to the opportunity to learn more from you in the future.
Wow! It's really mind blowing. It is also very impresive to see, for example here: 23:19 , how it can guess (or see?) Positions of traffic on the opposite side of the highway, even with a high barrier blocking the view. How is it even possible?
An excellent video thank you. I would say counting a disengagement ,because the car got stuck ,is unfair, as we are well aware it is not something it is allowed to do yet.
I've had 12.5.5 for almost 2 weeks on Long Island and it cuts the corners too close. A couple of days ago it hit the curb making a right turn with a curb that is approximately a 110 degree angle. With other similar wide angle turns it has had indecision, and jerks so I intervene.
When exiting a Parkway it waits a little too long to move to the right and if there is traffic, it can't move over and will miss the exit.
Otherwise, it's been flawless!
12.5.6 looks like it only added Hurry on the highway.
I have been using the FSD for several weeks. My issue is I have found that the system does not move toward a freeway change soon enough - it waits until the truck is only a 1/4 mile from the freeway change before it starts to move lane to lane toward taking the freeway switch. Twice it did not make the freeway switch. The nav system gives the voice prompt but it does not begin immediately trying to change lanes from the fast lane over to the off-ramp to the next freeway. Next issue is the system stays in the center of every lane - rather than hugging the left lane painted line. On a wide street lane it keeps traffic behind from passing on my right to take a right turn. I don’t agree that it rides in the lane properly. And it needs to start moving lanes to make a change of freeway or to make a hey turn.
Video was still great! I hope you captured some footage on your road trip to we robot!
3:20 - that was really poor. It was obvious well in advance that the truck was about to change lanes. It should have just made a nice slowdown.
Yea, this is one of the many reasons I don’t use fsd much. Fsd just makes you look like an asshole far too often for me to wanna use it.
I drive Uber full-time, and I have a Model Y 2024 HWV4. I use FSD in almost every trip I do. When talking about speeding, it will maintain whatever speed it needs to keep battery levels stable. It's driving for efficiency not performance. At least in my experience.
Nonsense.
Safety and comfort seem to be factors as well?
Actually really liked the casual reporting in this video :). After the We Robot event, now that there is a Cybertaxi, anything that requires the steering wheel or paddles is an intervention....
9:45 stopping there is correct. When there are no signs, you're supposed to give way to the person to the right of you if there is one. And in turn, if the person to your left, should give YOU the right of way. This is different on roundabouts where it's actually reversed.
We have just seen where Tesla stands when it comes to autonomous driving. I refer to test drives in Jiangxi, China. The Tesla drove straight ahead into a construction site without braking and cleared everything.
I think your narration is great no criticism here
10:39 my favorite is when my car does 35mph past my house that’s on a 25 mph narrow bumpy street 😂
Hope they fix that. - also how are you submitting things to Tesla for review? I thought that button just saved video to the local usb. 17:49
21:17 - yeah had that a few times since 12.3.6
He was an early original tester, so he has a special button to send feedback in directly. Normal customers can only submit feedback when disengaging.
Looks like a nice improvement - but it appears to ride the left lane as much as it did before. On the current not AI stack I've noticed it passes cars fine but it rarely returned to the right or middle lane on its own.
So is this finally the long awaited Full Self Driving (supervised now almost unsupervised but still passenger guided Beta)?
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Great video - as always on point!
I find myself still taking over all the time on highways, always having minimal lane changes enabled and manually using the stalks to engage a lane change. I'm still on ol' fashioned 12.5.4 HW3 (Even on "advanced" update settings I find myself to be one of the unlucky few to get software updates last) and the highway driving to me has always been no better than autosteer. I would straight up use autosteer instead if it weren't for the inferior visualizations, so I'm definitely excited for the new highway improvements.
The worst part is the minimal lane changes isn't a persistent setting.
I have been using the FSD for several weeks. My issue is I have found that the system does not move toward a freeway change soon enough - it waits until the truck is only a 1/4 mile from the freeway change before it starts to move lane to lane toward taking the freeway switch. Twice it did not make the freeway switch. The nav system gives the voice prompt but it does not begin immediately trying to change lanes from the fast lane over to the off-ramp to the next freeway. Next issue is the system stays in the center of every lane - rather than hugging the left lane painted line. On a wide street lane it keeps traffic behind from passing on my right to take a right turn.
"Haha, it ignores road signs, I love that improvement"
just asking, why do you set your max speed higher than the speed limit? isnt that illegal or are laws different in the US?
It is illegal. He's breaking the law.
@@logitech4873 and the Tesla lets him do that?
@@WetAvacadoGaming Yeah because he's legally the driver.
@@logitech4873 ok i get it I just thought that with how careful fsd used to be and tesla being a big corp they would try to avoid letting their self driving software from speeding. but I guess in lots of cars u can set the cc to higher that 70
People break the speed limit all the time. The real speed limit is the speed of traffic.
Isn't speed limit based on detected road type? With the car then going the speed it feels is safe?
My biggest problem is when it takes off from a stop or red light. It always wants to go 0 to 40 in 1 second. And today on the freeway it did a lot of breaking for no reason and weird lane changes. Hopefully its better with this update. Ive had my model x for 2 years now and its slowly getting better. And i mean slowly. Lol
Can you try one thing? Have very loud music and see if vibrations affect the FSD. Heavy subwoofer music. Please use ear protection.