Pro Nuzlocker Reacts To "Can You Beat Pokemon Platinum Without Taking Damage"

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  • @Smallant
    @Smallant 4 года назад +33871

    he thinks I'm really cool 😮😮😮😮😮

    • @Big_G12
      @Big_G12 4 года назад +953

      You are

    • @zaxtonhong3958
      @zaxtonhong3958 4 года назад +845

      Whoooaaaaaaaaaa it's the cool guy

    •  4 года назад +9537

      I've been noticed 🥺🥺🥺

    • @jackcowan8318
      @jackcowan8318 4 года назад +255

      SmallAnt you need a break from these stupid challenges

    • @smartboy201
      @smartboy201 4 года назад +100

      Yo dawg, I heard he loves you!

  • @charlesbersamin9623
    @charlesbersamin9623 4 года назад +9539

    The whole video is basically him insisting that SmallAnt should’ve chosen Chimchar as the starter.

    • @Blue-fg8vt
      @Blue-fg8vt 4 года назад +515

      Tbh i don't think that chimchar is worth starting with due too it being so hard too get out no hit

    • @imjustryley2197
      @imjustryley2197 4 года назад +534

      He wouldn't have gotten past the first rival battle for a long time if he chose Chimchar, because Piplup has growl, which makes you deal less damage, and it also has 100% accuracy, so he was even wrong in saying that he should use Chimchar.

    • @charlesbersamin9623
      @charlesbersamin9623 4 года назад +361

      @@imjustryley2197 I think what he meant to say was that even though the rival battle wouldve been longer the subsequent battles wouldve required less time because of Infernape.

    • @byrontheusurper6505
      @byrontheusurper6505 4 года назад +116

      A bit annoying but not wrong. Still, hoping for like 8 turns of misses or status moves is insane.

    • @Predated2
      @Predated2 4 года назад +97

      @@imjustryley2197 I mean, whats better? Spending 3 hours on a turtwig, only to be delayed 8 hours later in the game by grinding up your pokemon? or spending 5 hours on a chimchar and only having to train up like 2 extra hours? Its like saying you can earn 5 million $ now and get 5.000$ every single month for the rest of your life, or earn 1 million$ right now, but earn 50.000$ every single month for the rest of your life. Which would you pick? On the short term, the first option is very appealing, but the second option is by far the best option on long term.

  • @Beowulfr23
    @Beowulfr23 4 года назад +4391

    I like the, "he's going to get quick attacked, he's going to get quick attacked" then gets quick attacked for the hilarious amount of 3 damage

  • @emjer7906
    @emjer7906 4 года назад +6100

    I decided to do the math on the odds of beating the first rival battle using chimchar, and the best odds seem to be 1/21065 for chimchar having 4 or more ivs in attack, an attack boosting nature, and getting double crits against a piplup with a negative defense nature using growl, which means an average of about 15000 resets to beat the first rival battle. Assuming each reset takes 10 seconds, that's about 41 hours worth of resetting, which is longer than smallant's entire run, so it doesn't seem like picking chimchar is really any faster than picking turtwig

    • @ashtic9140
      @ashtic9140 4 года назад +209

      Dayyum

    • @iam-geoffreytheelite5275
      @iam-geoffreytheelite5275 4 года назад +1125

      Yeah thanks for crunching the numbers, watching this was annoying every time he’d smugly say “Shoulda picked chimchar” Smallant is very smart and knows what he doing lmao. If he thought the longer rival battle at the start was worth it he would’ve done it.

    • @killuafan4365
      @killuafan4365 4 года назад +201

      I think he does everything from title load screen since he doesnt get a save pre first gym, hed have to do cut scenes if im not mistaken. I think poke challenges didnt know about the rules as clearly as he thought.

    • @kasyu1101
      @kasyu1101 4 года назад +461

      so, the answer to 2:56 is yes. also, if you actually look at the timer, it actually took smallant about a minute between attempts, meaning it would actually take over 300 hours to get past the rival battle. in other words, just take the turtle and dont ask questions.

    • @The_Mang
      @The_Mang 4 года назад +112

      yeah I dont think that PC accounted for the fact that each turn that you successfully didn't take damage, you would be losing attack so every crit would deal less and less damage

  • @ian_velez
    @ian_velez 4 года назад +2307

    Smallant1:loses hours worth of time after grueling amounts of training.
    This guy: *laughs*

    • @theatomicbob9067
      @theatomicbob9067 4 года назад +31

      Smallant1:I'm not trying to waste my life away

    • @jacobbau8328
      @jacobbau8328 4 года назад +67

      It was funny, admit it.

    • @cassio_real
      @cassio_real 4 года назад +26

      Who's SmallAnt1?I only know SmallAnt.

    • @strogonoffcore
      @strogonoffcore 4 года назад +15

      as we say in Brazil, "pepper on someone else's butt is a refreshment for some"

    • @sr.piedra3802
      @sr.piedra3802 4 года назад +1

      This guy: *C H I M C H A R*

  • @zeezeyhd1412
    @zeezeyhd1412 4 года назад +5527

    i absolutely love how he skipped Small Ant killing the Shiny buisel🤣🤣

  • @xavierbehrens3015
    @xavierbehrens3015 3 года назад +290

    Buizel: is shiny
    Smallant: kills it
    Also smallant: catches a buizel later in the run.

    • @estebanvelazquez353
      @estebanvelazquez353 2 года назад +8

      He's doing a Speedrun so he doesn't want a time waster like a shiny. The animation takes more time

    • @yoshimatt09
      @yoshimatt09 2 года назад +88

      @@estebanvelazquez353 this isnt a speedrun he just put the timer there so youtube knows how long it is, but if theres a speedrun category for this then i want to see it

    • @steventhecookielover
      @steventhecookielover 2 года назад +50

      SmallAnt actually explained that it was too risky to throw a Poke Ball since he didn't have access to the Net Ball to catch Buizel easily, so he decided to kill it since he didn't want to risk it, still hurts to watch a little tho lol

    • @Crxsseyed1
      @Crxsseyed1 2 года назад +9

      It was too risky, he just spent a ton of time to train, and if he didn’t catch it, he would need to spend even more time

    • @BurgoYT
      @BurgoYT Год назад +7

      @@estebanvelazquez353no, it’s because he’d already done heaps of grinding since a gym so catching it would be very risky if it failed and he got attacked

  • @patrickl671
    @patrickl671 4 года назад +5643

    You should try this challenge with chimchar

    • @shine-ub6eb
      @shine-ub6eb 4 года назад +75

      I would watch for sure

    • @RomanTorchic
      @RomanTorchic 4 года назад +219

      That would be epic. And he can try to beat SmallAnt’s time of 39 hours

    • @justapancrepe8455
      @justapancrepe8455 4 года назад +11

      He really should!

    • @BenStonememe
      @BenStonememe 4 года назад +50

      As long as PC resets the entire game instead of the latest gym if he takes damage ;)

    • @alexperper6390
      @alexperper6390 4 года назад

      No

  • @PokemonProfessorNebula
    @PokemonProfessorNebula 4 года назад +2007

    When pokemon moves say they hit 80% of the time, they really mean 50% of the time, lets be honest.

    • @EskChan19
      @EskChan19 4 года назад +78

      Xcom and Fire Emblem agree.

    • @woozlegamer8253
      @woozlegamer8253 4 года назад +337

      If it’s not 100% accurate, it’s 50% accurate.
      MandJTV - All the time

    • @NormalWeeb.
      @NormalWeeb. 4 года назад +101

      And 30% accuracy sheer cold feels like 100%

    • @dylancross1039
      @dylancross1039 4 года назад +100

      @@NormalWeeb. Only if the AI uses it

    • @taiderscoliosis7258
      @taiderscoliosis7258 4 года назад +5

      Now im asking how my sleep powder never misses

  • @darrellwillis4871
    @darrellwillis4871 4 года назад +992

    For the gen 5 version, I feel like the 'pick your starter' that would be awful. You'd have to beat BOTH starters without getting hit once.

    • @erfegxD
      @erfegxD 4 года назад +16

      Ikr

    • @darrellwillis4871
      @darrellwillis4871 4 года назад +57

      @@erfegxD I want to do B2/W2 no damage.
      I also did a run in Pearl (I want to do plat. and Gen 5 status only run)

    • @erfegxD
      @erfegxD 4 года назад +26

      @@darrellwillis4871 B2/W2 is hard i havent even beated it i only reached the elite four
      so gl with your run

    • @darrellwillis4871
      @darrellwillis4871 4 года назад +15

      @@erfegxD I think I'm gonna either start with oshawott or tepig. Water for aqua jet or fire for arm thrust to break sturdy users.
      If oshawott, get riolu because Lucario is a good fighting type that probably gets a multi-hit. They're also early game.

    • @erfegxD
      @erfegxD 4 года назад +8

      @@darrellwillis4871 oshawott is decent just catch a riolu train it up until it learns force palm its only a few levels up and then crush cheren
      and sandile is great too when you get to nimbasa city catch one asap they are good for the elite four catch one with the ability "moxie" its very useful since krookodile is good for sweeping teams

  • @Marowak31
    @Marowak31 4 года назад +731

    I love SmallAnt, his challenge runs are so unique and fun

  • @carlosx8603
    @carlosx8603 4 года назад +386

    Something that hurts the use chimchar argument is that you eventually have to train a normal type pokemon for fantina's duskull, and a pokemon with a priority move for fantina's haunter as Infernape would only have mach punch. So in the end you'd catch Staraptor and Floatzel regardless.

    • @doubleace11554
      @doubleace11554 11 месяцев назад +1

      Floatzel yes, but not necessarily Staraptor, at least for Fantina, you could train Floatzel to outshot Duskull

    • @carlosx8603
      @carlosx8603 11 месяцев назад

      @acemerceramv8561 true enough, if one wanted to get a chimchar run off the ground, then that would be an option.

  • @Gallentecitizen1
    @Gallentecitizen1 4 года назад +650

    Smallant's video: **exists**
    Everyone reacting: "Oh I didn't know Hail makes Blizzard bypass the accuracy check I thought it was just set to 100%. "

    • @billybobbobson3797
      @billybobbobson3797 4 года назад +80

      I’m honestly sick of this new RUclips trend of someone dumping hours into a video and then other youtubers watching it and leeching views off of it

    • @AlightBlaze
      @AlightBlaze 4 года назад +8

      Im not much of a pokemon player whats the difference?

    • @Gallentecitizen1
      @Gallentecitizen1 4 года назад +136

      @@AlightBlaze If a move has a listed accuracy of "100%" it can still miss if the user's accuracy stat is lowered (e.g. by getting hit by Sand Attack) or if the target's evasion is raised (e.g. by using Double Team or being in Hail with Snow Cloak) but a move that "bypasses the accuracy check", like Aerial Ace or Blizzard in Hail, will ignore the user's accuracy and the target's evasion and hit regardless.

    • @AlightBlaze
      @AlightBlaze 4 года назад +6

      @@Gallentecitizen1 ah thank you

    • @M4x_P0w3r
      @M4x_P0w3r 4 года назад +95

      @@billybobbobson3797 New? Pal, reactions have been a thing for a long, long time

  • @TheRMJQandA
    @TheRMJQandA 4 года назад +978

    Take a drink every time he mentions should of started chimchar/monferno

    • @Firetrigger2110
      @Firetrigger2110 4 года назад +55

      Imagine not being the definition of a ZA WARUDO TURTLE.
      This post was made by the Turtwig Gang.

    • @ricardoj376
      @ricardoj376 4 года назад +17

      I don't wanna die.

    • @trfinnila6074
      @trfinnila6074 4 года назад +19

      I don’t know that I have enough water

    • @GoodHunter9
      @GoodHunter9 4 года назад +5

      had to go get my stomach pumped

    • @Wauly
      @Wauly 4 года назад +12

      Hate me if you want, but it's "Should've"

  • @ericdissing
    @ericdissing 3 года назад +90

    I still have fond memories of the daycare leveling stat. I wanted lopunny to be my main Pokémon for a run when I was 10, and I remember going to the factory wrapping a rubber band on my ds so it presses left and I’m pressing left towards a panel that spun me to the right. I would wake up before school and see my lopunny gained 15+ levels every night and it was so satisfying.

  • @stevendeng6720
    @stevendeng6720 4 года назад +328

    This challenge would be next to impossible on set mode, no? You’d have to set up one Pokémon that can sweep every team imaginable because switching would just get you hit in 99% of situations.

    • @janelle57759
      @janelle57759 4 года назад +37

      Maybe moves like Roar, Baton Pass, and U-turn would have to be implemented just for a decent chance

    • @boianko
      @boianko 2 года назад +6

      I guess you could get a Shedinja (if that's even possible in DPPt) and use that as a safe switch to most moves, then sweep dark, fire, flying and rock types directly.

    • @psychopathicporo
      @psychopathicporo 2 года назад +18

      You'd have to tryhard with pivoting to pokemon who aren't affected by whichever move you bait out

    • @poisonedmaple6874
      @poisonedmaple6874 9 месяцев назад

      @@boianko shedinja is not available until post game

  • @SilharaTheChosen
    @SilharaTheChosen 4 года назад +800

    A lot of people throwing shade over the "best nuzlocker in the world" bit, but honestly have you seen his videos? Man isn't wrong imo.

    • @siren6245
      @siren6245 4 года назад +158

      God but he's so boring in his nuzlock videos smallant keeps my small goober brain stimulated

    • @mendia43
      @mendia43 4 года назад +254

      @@siren6245 idk man, he is just super chill and I really apreciate that specially nowadays when everything is way too exagerated.

    • @siren6245
      @siren6245 4 года назад +27

      @@mendia43 to be fair I'm kinda retarded I pretty much only watch paymoneywubby because of it

    • @ezio934
      @ezio934 4 года назад +65

      Yeah he is the only nuzlocker who play difficult rom hacks with set mode + no item in battle + no overlevelling. There is marilland but he does not play any hard rom hacks.

    • @sirbrokkoli5309
      @sirbrokkoli5309 4 года назад +6

      @@ezio934 Doesn't Mr Ding Dong Games do that as well?

  • @orphen923
    @orphen923 4 года назад +221

    Choosing Chimchar is the exact same outcome as if he were to choose Piplup... Its a stupid decision. Though it works in the endgame, you'll inevitably spend more time trying to get through the first battle than if you were to just pick Turtwig

    • @flallana18
      @flallana18 2 года назад +5

      Turtwig learns a defense raising move, which makes it take longer to kill, which increases the chance Piplup will get hit

    • @betonamu7514
      @betonamu7514 Год назад

      Crit ignores with defense boost and attack drops so the odd is not as bad as you think

    • @betonamu7514
      @betonamu7514 Год назад +4

      It’s not as bad as you think. The key is we need to leer until we can crit while needing piplup to growl. The reason for this is the chance for pilup to growl is 1/2, and the chance to crit is 1/16, which means leering into crit kill is always beneficial. We do not care about growl attack drop, since crit ignores attack drop. Since chimchar goes first, the math would be:
      1/2 ^ (# num of lear) * 1/16 * (chance to OHKO)
      Worst case (-atk nature 0 atk iv chimchar and +def nature 31 iv piplup), we need to lear 5 times into crit to have a 30% chance to KO
      (0- Atk Chimchar Scratch vs. -5 0 HP / 0+ Def Piplup on a critical hit: 18-22 (85.7 - 104.7%) - 31.3% chance to OHKO )
      which means piplup has to hit 5 growl so the chance is:
      1/2 ^ 5 * 1/16 * 0.3 = 1/1536
      And this is the WORST case scenario
      The average case should be:
      neutral nature with 15iv each and we need 4 lear into crit:
      0 Atk Chimchar Scratch vs. -4 0 HP / 0 Def Piplup on a critical hit: 22-26 (104.7 - 123.8%) - guaranteed OHKO
      So piplup will growl 4 times
      => clear chance is (1/2)^4 * 1/16 = 1/256 which is not bad at all
      Best case scenario we get a chimchar with 31iv +atk nature and a piplup with 0hp 0def iv -def nature. Now we only need to lear twice to have to KO:
      0+ Atk Chimchar Scratch vs. -2 0 HP / 0 -Def Piplup on a critical hit: 20-24 (100 - 120%) - guaranteed OHKO
      Which means piplup get to roll growl twice. Which brings the math to:
      1/2 * 1/2 * 1/16 = 1/64
      Remember that we can also check the chimchar’s stat so we can reroll for at least neutral nature and average attack iv

    • @doheonlee6703
      @doheonlee6703 Год назад +2

      @@betonamu7514yes, a ridiculously lucky chance to roll a 1/64 huh? That isn’t accounting for the fact that small ant could miss catching starly and redo the rival fight AGAIN (like he did in the video)

    • @betonamu7514
      @betonamu7514 Год назад +2

      @@doheonlee6703 infernape line has priority mach punch so u dont need quick attack from starly

  • @zylena8004
    @zylena8004 4 года назад +128

    Ushijima: yOu shOulD'Ve cOmE tO sHirAtOrIzAwA
    This guy: yOu shOuLd'Ve chOsEn chImChar

    • @bruv7521
      @bruv7521 3 года назад +11

      What i didn't expect a Haikyuu comment in pc's comment section. Col

  • @CalamitasDeus
    @CalamitasDeus 4 года назад +286

    So, I don't know if Pokémon Challenges realizes that this wasn't a time trial. This was strictly a no-damage run. How much time it takes isn't relevant, so picking Chimchar isn't actually a helpful tip necessarily.

    • @joegod9488
      @joegod9488 4 года назад +20

      it was in reference to turtwig being picked to save time whereas chimchar would have saved more overall time on the run

    • @FlandrionScarlet
      @FlandrionScarlet 4 года назад +113

      @@joegod9488 yeah spending 42 hours for 1 try instead of 16 minutes would save more time

    • @dylanh8163
      @dylanh8163 4 года назад +35

      i'd also factor in not wanting to spend his whole life doing the run. In theory he could reset every fight until a quick attack crit on a speed tie is how he wins, but smallant doesn't because a million resets doesn't seem fun. also the chimchar thing definitely seems like it just became a meme in his stream during this.

    • @dathunderman4
      @dathunderman4 4 года назад +61

      @@joegod9488 he’s just wrong tho. Someone did the calculations and it’d take 48 hours in the best case scenario if you picked chimchar to get thru the first battle alone. That’s longer than what small ant spent actually playing the entire run. Not to mention that small ant didn’t allow saves until after he beat the gym, and the first gym would be really hard with chimchar

    • @Korow-
      @Korow- 4 года назад +3

      @@joegod9488 No it wouldnt. u gonna be at the first battle for about 300h. even speed up thats no time save

  • @kafkeinated
    @kafkeinated 3 года назад +15

    SmallAnt: *does this challenge*
    MandJTV: YOU SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE SHINY BUIZEL!
    PC: YOU SHOULD'VE CHOSEN CHIMCHAR!

  • @Saviarai-Dravolika
    @Saviarai-Dravolika 4 года назад +109

    I love SmallAnt and Pokemon Platinum without taking damage is awesome.

  • @YakoSWG
    @YakoSWG 4 года назад +66

    Starting with Chimchar with average luck would take about 5-6 hours to beat the first fight. It might save time in the long run but being stuck on the first fight for over 5 hours is super demoralizing.

    • @Luis-gz3oo
      @Luis-gz3oo 3 года назад +24

      About 40 hours* if contents above are correct

  • @goose5200
    @goose5200 3 года назад +62

    You may be the best nuzlocker ever, but SmallAnt is the patient man in the universe.

  • @caseabase
    @caseabase 4 года назад +197

    21:18
    I like how you censored the first one, but not the second one right after, lol.

    • @Ricci9170
      @Ricci9170 4 года назад +7

      Well, 2 different meaning

  • @bluegg996
    @bluegg996 3 года назад +124

    I understand that for the rest of the game picking chimchar is clearly the best choice, it’s a much faster Pokémon and a better sweeper, but getting trough the first battle would probably take you more time to do then the rest of the challenge with torterra dude.

    • @betonamu7514
      @betonamu7514 Год назад +1

      It’s not as bad as you think. The key is we need to leer until we can crit while needing piplup to growl. The reason for this is the chance for pilup to growl is 1/2, and the chance to crit is 1/16, which means leering into crit kill is always beneficial. We do not care about growl attack drop, since crit ignores attack drop. Since chimchar goes first, the math would be:
      1/2 ^ (# num of lear) * 1/16 * (chance to OHKO)
      Worst case (-atk nature 0 atk iv chimchar and +def nature 31 iv piplup), we need to lear 5 times into crit to have a 30% chance to KO
      (0- Atk Chimchar Scratch vs. -5 0 HP / 0+ Def Piplup on a critical hit: 18-22 (85.7 - 104.7%) - 31.3% chance to OHKO )
      which means piplup has to hit 5 growl so the chance is:
      1/2 ^ 5 * 1/16 * 0.3 = 1/1536
      And this is the WORST case scenario
      The average case should be:
      neutral nature with 15iv each and we need 4 lear into crit:
      0 Atk Chimchar Scratch vs. -4 0 HP / 0 Def Piplup on a critical hit: 22-26 (104.7 - 123.8%) - guaranteed OHKO
      So piplup will growl 4 times
      => clear chance is (1/2)^4 * 1/16 = 1/256 which is not bad at all
      Best case scenario we get a chimchar with 31iv +atk nature and a piplup with 0hp 0def iv -def nature. Now we only need to lear twice to have to KO:
      0+ Atk Chimchar Scratch vs. -2 0 HP / 0 -Def Piplup on a critical hit: 20-24 (100 - 120%) - guaranteed OHKO
      Which means piplup get to roll growl twice. Which brings the math to:
      1/2 * 1/2 * 1/16 = 1/64
      Remember that we can also check the chimchar’s stat so we can reroll for at least neutral nature and average attack iv

    • @betonamu7514
      @betonamu7514 Год назад

      @@andy-utop where

  • @olibassily2967
    @olibassily2967 4 года назад +54

    "Do you know it changes colour when you subscribe?" Ah, learning from Ludwig I see

  • @cocomoch5392
    @cocomoch5392 3 года назад +73

    Alternate Title: I keep making reasons why SmallAnt should have chosen chimchar.

  • @tempsxt
    @tempsxt 3 года назад +71

    When you realize SmallAnt's Staraptor has Brave Bird which does recoil damage. 11:52

    • @TiggySL
      @TiggySL 3 года назад +30

      Yea that tends to happen when you leave Pokémon in the daycare

    • @coyolord8031
      @coyolord8031 10 месяцев назад +1

      i think he just made sure to never click brave bird

  • @Macie-Jay77
    @Macie-Jay77 3 года назад +35

    The reason he didn’t use chimchar was because if he did, in the rival battle against piplup, the piplup would have to use growl to not deal damage, which would reduce his chimchars damage, resulting in him needing to hit more and the rival to miss more attacks. The chance of this happening is much lower than just picking turtwig.

    • @LoKing1337
      @LoKing1337 3 года назад

      Or just get some crits since they don’t care about stat changes

    • @leonel392
      @leonel392 3 года назад +16

      @@LoKing1337 trusting in crits is super inefficient

    • @LoKing1337
      @LoKing1337 3 года назад +2

      @@leonel392 that is why this run is a test of patience

  • @alexshablovsky8864
    @alexshablovsky8864 4 года назад +15

    14:42 somehow it was quite satisfying then they said "Ice Beam" at the same time

  • @tiltmasterflex7220
    @tiltmasterflex7220 4 года назад +151

    There's a Blue run of this by Gamechamp that's always worth watching.

    • @doohresarf321
      @doohresarf321 4 года назад +10

      gen 1 nonsense makes that run particularly good imo

    • @CinanzonRoll
      @CinanzonRoll 4 года назад +2

      It's also the video that made me discover Pikasprey, and I'll always thank it for that.

    • @simohayha6031
      @simohayha6031 3 года назад

      @@doohresarf321 y

  • @bryanloo4116
    @bryanloo4116 4 года назад +85

    "Chimchar this monferno that"
    All bark thou

  • @yasminchan7425
    @yasminchan7425 3 года назад +308

    Was I the only one who kept thinking "he picked Turtwig get over it already!" whenever he mentioned "should've picked Chimchar, monferno better"? 😅

    • @MAT_DoesStuff
      @MAT_DoesStuff 3 года назад +17

      Nop, I did the same lol

    • @JWZhang94
      @JWZhang94 3 года назад +23

      Yah that was annoying lol, it would've taken much much longer to start

    • @Rattus375
      @Rattus375 3 года назад +41

      Especially because it was so objectively wrong. He would have spent longer on the first battle than he did on the entire run if he had picked chimchar

    • @paanazmi8062
      @paanazmi8062 3 года назад +7

      true..they should try this run with chimchar to prove their theory

    • @Sammy_The_Umbreon
      @Sammy_The_Umbreon 3 года назад +3

      Yeah, i got tired of it soon

  • @ThePhantomKerbecs
    @ThePhantomKerbecs 4 года назад +178

    Imagine a no damage nuzlocke by the greatest nuzlocker in the world

    • @r3io4mf
      @r3io4mf 4 года назад +2

      that is basically what nuzlocks is

    • @ThePhantomKerbecs
      @ThePhantomKerbecs 4 года назад +37

      @@r3io4mf you usually take a hit or two every battle on a nuzlocke. I said no damage at all

    • @r3io4mf
      @r3io4mf 4 года назад +15

      @@ThePhantomKerbecs taking no damage is basically a nuzlocke but harder since nothing will faint if they take no damage

    • @diegolarrea7932
      @diegolarrea7932 4 года назад +3

      gamechamp3000 did one where he cant take damage and if he does he has to restart the run.... not the save... the entire run

    • @ricardoj376
      @ricardoj376 4 года назад +2

      @@diegolarrea7932 Sounds boring. I think they meant that, if a Pokémon takes damage, it's considered fainted. All other nuzlocke rules remain standard

  • @levy9595
    @levy9595 4 года назад +41

    the difference between turtwig and chimchar winning the first battle is 1/16 for turtwig and over 1/1000 for monferno. Grinding for that complete with restarts and all isnt worth getting chimchar. There are no optimizations you can make other than just getting insanely lucky and resetting over and over again. took him 40 mins of real time for 1/16 odds imagine the time itd take for over 1 in 1000

  • @wetalktothewind6275
    @wetalktothewind6275 4 года назад +58

    Your videos have inspired me to do my first nuzlocke, which I've always been very much against. I've played Pokemon for a very very long time, but only casually, and I don't have much competitive knowledge. I literally play to form emotional connections with my Pokemon, and keep them for a very long time. I'll be attempting Pokemon Firered. Everyone pray for me before I absolutely dickslapped, please and thank you.

  • @dank_tank4725
    @dank_tank4725 4 года назад +174

    Here’s some Jan lore for the RUclips comment crowd:
    Jan actually thinks pineapple on pizza is okay.
    That’s a pokemoWeird from me personally.
    Have a good day everyone!

  • @paydaydallas6615
    @paydaydallas6615 2 года назад +21

    I'm doing this challenge in platinum and I can confirm chimchar is not the right choice, you need to generally get lucky to beat piplup with him using growls and missing his attacks, turtwig was the correct choice

  • @cadhlakai
    @cadhlakai 4 года назад +17

    I never thought I'd enjoy watching people react to Lets Plays but I keep coming back... I sometimes wish I knew more about Pokemon like you do. I just started playing Pokemon Shield, and my last pokemon game was Pokemon Red... so it's been a while and I feel like I probably make a lot of mistakes that just make the game harder for me

    • @ElbowDropMO
      @ElbowDropMO 4 года назад +4

      It depends on the context for me. Someone like this giving an informative spin on things while also being entertaining (along with SmallAnt being entertaining as well) is a good combo. Some reactor yelling like a hyena at an LPer yelling like a hyena sucks.
      If you're coming into Sword/Shield from 1st gen of all things, first of all, welcome back! Second of all, this might as well be a whole new franchise now. The amount of stuff you have to adjust to is staggering.

    • @cadhlakai
      @cadhlakai 4 года назад +1

      @@ElbowDropMO so much stuff...

    • @zan1971
      @zan1971 4 года назад +2

      Bruh it's pokemon, there's nothing wrong to do. You choose a monster and mash 'A' till you win. Literally that's it. If you're going for competitive pokemon on showdown then you have to know stuff but if you just want to play the main game then there's pretty much nothing.

  • @leragefish4944
    @leragefish4944 4 года назад +86

    I REALLY want him to react to Mr ding dongs nuzlockes

    • @CreditableHulk
      @CreditableHulk 4 года назад +2

      Same lol

    • @noname-tw4mm
      @noname-tw4mm 4 года назад

      no pls

    • @leragefish4944
      @leragefish4944 4 года назад +1

      @@noname-tw4mm why?

    • @noname-tw4mm
      @noname-tw4mm 4 года назад

      @@leragefish4944 idk man, i watching ding dong for quite a long time but just dont want it to happen

    • @leragefish4944
      @leragefish4944 4 года назад +3

      @@noname-tw4mm no reason soooooo

  • @hydrocheese4122
    @hydrocheese4122 4 года назад +86

    14:50 “ the fastest way to do this is to fight the”
    What was the word? It can’t be THAT bad. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was nothing at all, YT bots just buggin maybe. I need to knooowww

    • @rub8252
      @rub8252 4 года назад +7

      AHHHH that’s the only reason I’m in this comment section it’s killing me, if you find out please hook a homie up and reply yo

    • @mrwaffleman8732
      @mrwaffleman8732 4 года назад +10

      I assume it's the same rich kids that ant talks about right after

    • @otiliagabriel1382
      @otiliagabriel1382 4 года назад +22

      @@rub8252 "the fastest way to do this is to fight the snoby rich kids"

    • @researchinbreeder
      @researchinbreeder 4 года назад

      He just cut it off bc SmallAnt was literally about to say the same thing

    • @garrettreven5144
      @garrettreven5144 4 года назад +4

      21:17 he curses just after a censored curse

  • @Killrbladez
    @Killrbladez 4 года назад +103

    Kinda to do with the "speedrun" aspect you kept bringing up through the video, I'd honestly say Turtwig would be the better choice if timing starts on New Game. At least until the speedrun would need to get optimized that much. While you could cut out the requirement of Starly completely with Chimchar, the early part is the most likely for resets, which means more relying on double crits for chimchar.

  • @HoneyAnimates
    @HoneyAnimates 4 года назад +26

    Yes I’ve been waiting for you to react to this lol

  • @becausesakamoto5938
    @becausesakamoto5938 4 года назад +19

    Just watched Wolfey react to this again and thought that Jan should as well, lmao

  • @levisokshow2333
    @levisokshow2333 4 года назад +9

    I find Smallant’s challenge impressive and beyond everything I could ever do, but if he had access to trading, he should’ve got a scizor for bullet bunch which would definitely deal with Candice. Technician would also make the calculations better in his favor.

  • @NoodIndigo
    @NoodIndigo 4 года назад +23

    Just call this video "But monferno tho"

  • @bopplemcnuggets4387
    @bopplemcnuggets4387 2 года назад +2

    tbch, the constant insistence that chimchar would've been the better choice drags this video down a lot when you know that it'd never be worth it from the first rival battle

  • @finalbossgamer5481
    @finalbossgamer5481 4 года назад +103

    Ok this video is good but I can't help but get annoyed that he kept saying chimchar was the better choice.

    • @kohinoorbanerjee4009
      @kohinoorbanerjee4009 4 года назад +9

      Yeah, after all, it is much easier to comment about it than do it yourself

    • @EXRDaBeasta
      @EXRDaBeasta 4 года назад +19

      He aint the smartest, just the loudest.

  • @Carolanne17
    @Carolanne17 2 года назад +1

    I knew something Jan didn't? HYPE (blizzard hitting in hail 100% and thunder also hits 100% of the time in rain)

  • @Danny_Deleto
    @Danny_Deleto 4 года назад +8

    I just lost my first Renegade Platinum Nuzlocke run to the first Mars fight. I hate that first Mars fight so much.

  • @zoruamaster2495
    @zoruamaster2495 3 года назад +7

    The thing is, chimchar even taking 5 hours at best doesn’t account small ant would’ve had to try get chimchar MULTIPLE times

  • @weskintime4177
    @weskintime4177 2 года назад +3

    Everytime you said “should have picked Chimchar” was a facepalm.

  • @whisennandalex7821
    @whisennandalex7821 4 года назад +5

    piplup knows growl,, so good luck beating the first rival battle with chimchar

  • @Sonyatakashi97
    @Sonyatakashi97 3 года назад +5

    I heard the word “Monferno” at least a billion times today

  • @zanelost
    @zanelost Год назад +1

    Omg the self-proclaimed PRO NUZLOCKER

  • @riol2_
    @riol2_ 4 года назад +6

    It’s funny that you reacted to this immediately before he uploaded his second pokemon platinum challenge run

  • @captainnwalps6689
    @captainnwalps6689 2 года назад +2

    No one:
    No one at all:
    Jam: Hey you should use chimchar

  • @alittlelaurbard
    @alittlelaurbard 4 года назад +16

    Love smallant, love his interaction with chat. Need to catch one of your streams pokemon challenges.

    • @alittlelaurbard
      @alittlelaurbard 4 года назад +2

      I agree you should run this with chimchar but also with level caps. Overlevelling makes things easier.

    • @Sir-Vesh
      @Sir-Vesh 4 года назад +5

      @@alittlelaurbard dude chimchar won't be able to pass first rival battle due to piplups growl

    • @Mqstodon
      @Mqstodon 3 года назад +3

      @@alittlelaurbard without overlevelling it's literally impossible, what are you talking about?

  • @ssr8555
    @ssr8555 2 года назад +1

    19:23 for anyone interested, pointcrow did gen 5 with no damage/1hp. Though no yt video yet, just vods

  • @paanazmi8062
    @paanazmi8062 3 года назад +8

    You should try no damage run with chimchar to test your theory..so far nobody did this

  • @sgt.garrick
    @sgt.garrick 2 года назад +4

    He had a 1/16 chance of getting past the very first battle without taking damage with Turtwig, and it took him 40 minutes. He has a 1/1024 chance of getting past the first battle with Chimchar without taking damage, and if we just run a calculation, that would take about 2,560 minutes (42.6 hours roughly). Chimchar would not be worth any time saves later on in the game. It would be interesting to see a Chimchar run, though.
    Edit: Yes, this is probability we’re talking about, so anything could happen. However, that number (which is given to us by Jan) is as accurate of a calculation that we can make right now. Either way it would still most likely take multiple hours. Now, this doesn’t include the chance of crit or other standard Pokémon battle factors in an effort to keep the calculation as simple as possible.

    • @Fox_Olive
      @Fox_Olive 2 года назад

      thats without crits. you only need two crits with chimchar and two growls with piplup. calculating without crits in a game with such high crit chance doesnt make sense

    • @sgt.garrick
      @sgt.garrick 2 года назад +1

      @@Fox_Olive yes but also take into account weakness policy, plus damage rolls, it would still take a lot longer. Also, you need more than 2 crits. I just did a rough calc, bro

  • @brocksteele7475
    @brocksteele7475 4 года назад +12

    I loved Smallant's video and its condensed-but-still-illustrative editing/pacing.
    Now I'm loving your nuzlocker mindset, analyzing his choices and giving some solid insight on potential optimization.
    But I'm mostly just commenting for the algorithm, carry on.
    P.S. Also, Monferno plus Mach Punch at level 14?!? Holy SHIT that's so early. Never knew Chimchar was so broken.

    • @Luis-gz3oo
      @Luis-gz3oo 3 года назад +2

      Still he would not be able to pass the first battle

  • @roberthansen5727
    @roberthansen5727 3 года назад +3

    It's so wholesome to see PChal simping for Smallant.

  • @konoegiatanez3754
    @konoegiatanez3754 3 года назад +5

    Man I got sick of him saying "Shoulda gone for Chimchar" within 8 minutes already. Like, we get it, Chimchar is the better starter holy shit, pack it in

    • @paanazmi8062
      @paanazmi8062 3 года назад

      it will be more convincing if pronuzlocke try this challenge with chimcar..so far he havnt done that to prove his theory

  • @endercode1164
    @endercode1164 4 года назад +4

    The thing is that it doesn't matter if monferno is better for everything else since all your pokemon will out lvl other pokemon by so much to the point you will oneshot everything that didn't have priority moves. So the only reason that he choose turwig is to get through the first battle. After that you only use staraptor and floatzel to use priority move, turwig is just there for type cover.

  • @amberco21
    @amberco21 2 года назад +8

    you straight up said yourself that it would be practically impossible to get past the first fight with chimchar unless you get extremely crit lucky.
    and then spent the entire video saying he should have chose chimchar… bruh

  • @Necrohart
    @Necrohart 11 месяцев назад +2

    Not Jan simping over small ant in the beginning 😭😭

  • @tacostastegood3720
    @tacostastegood3720 4 года назад +24

    Nice vid, I just want to note you can do those damage calcs better. In the stats you assumed both pokémon had 31 iv's, but you don't know that. Personally I always tend to calc for the worst case scenario. Putting my own iv's on 0 with defences of the opponent on 31 and giving them a beneficial defensive nature

  • @mjm3091
    @mjm3091 Год назад

    19:35 To be fair later gens actually give you a lot of nice tools to do this.
    Kanto - you can just sweep through anything. Same with Johto, which is actually kinda easier early on, as you get access to a lot of early priority moves and Pokemon they always give you Pokemon that is SE against the leader.
    Hoenn brings Fake Out, but it also brings Shedinja, which helps with a lot of issues.
    Shedinja also appears in 6th and 8th generation.
    7th Gen can be done using strong priority moves and it's also a generation that brings Psychic Terrain and Psychic Surge, which can be utilised even more in Gens 8 and 9, with Indeedee.
    Kalos has Mega-Kanga, Alola also has Mimikyu. Galar has Eiscue. Most of the later games actually have Sylveon with Pixilate Quick Attack as well. And Bibarel also at some point becomes a Double STAB priority overlord.
    Which pretty much leaves you with Gen 5 and that has Unfezant super early on and that's a solid priority STAB user. Unless you can Dream World Nincada somehow early on as well.
    19:45 Good part about Sturdy - those Pokemon don't really get Priority moves and their spread is limited. Mold Breaker, Skill Link and Parental Bond can also help with that. And obviously multi-hit moves are standard ever since gen 1.

  • @MagikCode
    @MagikCode 3 года назад +8

    He chose the right starter, you’re not always right, chill out

    • @LoKing1337
      @LoKing1337 3 года назад

      He didn’t tho

    • @leonel392
      @leonel392 3 года назад +8

      @@LoKing1337 Chimchar would take forever almost literally

  • @jakquinn4207
    @jakquinn4207 Год назад

    I’d like a Rom Mod where every gym leader has end game 6 stacked teams.
    The plot twist is you’ve got to explore the world and do missions fight team rocket etc and only once you’ve got a team strong enough (maybe through a renown) mechanic you can challenge the gym leaders.
    You should keep the option to challenge them whenever but there’s very little chance obviously.
    It’d be a great challenge for vets like me to complete the game, but the bigger challenge is for the Nuzlocke boys to beat the gyms in order as they go past them with a shocking team in comparison.

  • @awkwardvulpix3085
    @awkwardvulpix3085 3 года назад +8

    Assuming no crits, it'd be a 1/6400 chance to beat Piplup using Chimchar. Assuming you actually do get 2 crits in a row, it's a 1/4 chance. But... that's 2 crits in a row. That's a 1/256 chance. So if you add those together, a 1/1024 chance per reset. Let's give the benefit of the doubt and assume all the in betweens make it a 1/1000 chance to beat Piplup without taking damage. With him showing it took him roughly a minute per reset since he started from scratch, only saving at gyms. This would take a little over 16 hours for 1k attempts. Now THOUGH he did take 40 hours according to his timer, he'd still need to grind his entire team to level 100, and like you said a couple times, his Chimchar would have to be significantly higher leveled than his Turtwig was. Aka the "need to grind less" arguement was just dumb. It saves nothing but him needing to catch Staraptor. On top of that, you basically shit on the run at the end because he doesn't have to worry about higher priority and he doesn't have it to set battle style. Top this off with the fact that you introduced yourself as the best nuzlocker in the world, and I have no clue why I watched through this video, because you come off as EXTREMELY full of yourself constantly, as if you had the willpower to try this yourself. I'm not seeing a no damage run on your channel 8 months later

  • @Kain_Highwind_
    @Kain_Highwind_ 2 года назад

    PC's intro: "I can't make a decent RUclips intro."
    PC's real intro: "hey, guys, I'm Pokèmon Challenges, I'm -probably- the best nuzlocker in the world!"

  • @BuywithTyOMS
    @BuywithTyOMS 3 года назад +6

    Yes, Monferno would get Mach punch, assuming it beats the Piplup (who has growl) which would be the same issue as picking Piplup in the first place.

    • @LoKing1337
      @LoKing1337 3 года назад

      Growl doesn’t matter if you just get some crits

    • @AlphaFX-kv4ud
      @AlphaFX-kv4ud Год назад

      ​@snusmumriken7764 same applies for withdraw and you saw how long he tried with piplup, it would take even longer than that to actually beat the piplup with chimchar

  • @Mr_Spaghetti
    @Mr_Spaghetti 2 года назад

    10:05 “Click here to watch it”
    [Nothing there to click]
    God tier content creator

  • @ind0minusr3x51
    @ind0minusr3x51 4 года назад +4

    "Should've choosen Chimchar"
    We are not plebs m8

  • @darkdudironaji
    @darkdudironaji 4 года назад

    "A lot of you fuckers that watch my videos don't fucking subscribe. Don't do that"
    That has got to be, BY FAR, the best pitch I've ever heard to get subscribers.

  • @thwompu3206
    @thwompu3206 4 года назад +3

    SmallAnt:
    PC: Yeah if he had Mach Punch that would've been easier

  • @neb6705
    @neb6705 Год назад

    That wingull quick attack set smant back FOUR HOURS, this man has the mental fortitude of a tibetan monk

  • @Plankner
    @Plankner 4 года назад +3

    Commenting for the algorithm I guess. Good shit, dude. You deserve more subs.

  • @aliesterus1.023
    @aliesterus1.023 4 года назад +2

    If anything, speedup can possibly worsen your decision making, either by not accounting for the speedup and accidentally hitting a direction key too many times(or alternatively, the system you're using is too sensitive), or because you start to just... Stop thinking, and make a misplay.

  • @Dukstless
    @Dukstless 4 года назад +14

    7:07 "Moves have the same level of priority"
    This isn't actually true, there are priority moves that can outprioritize priority moves. Though to be fair, in G4 the only damaging move that has priority higher than +1 is Feint, other +2 or better moves were status stuff like Helping Hand or Protect.
    ...Funny how Fake Out was just +1 priority at the time, and then G5 it gets boosted to +3.
    On side note, there's also Gamechamp who did similar thing in Red/Blue... except there's no checkpoints; take damage and it's all the way back to start. With all the cool G1 stuff in the mix, like the 1/256 miss!

    • @dylancross1039
      @dylancross1039 4 года назад

      We forgetting that Extremespeed exists? Or was that not Gen 4?

    • @Dukstless
      @Dukstless 4 года назад

      @@dylancross1039 Even that was just +1 in Generation IV.

  • @bryantbodnar
    @bryantbodnar 2 года назад +1

    You could also fight the Pokemon Center Trainers for money. They refresh everyday. Everybody seems to forget their there.

  • @tirelessfrog916
    @tirelessfrog916 3 года назад +15

    Even the start clip has to have this guy asserting some kind of dominance because that's all this channel is

  • @blacky_Ninja
    @blacky_Ninja Год назад

    You just gotta love all these High-tier RUclipsr and Streamer fangirling each other 😂

  • @Crxsseyed1
    @Crxsseyed1 2 года назад +3

    Chimchar (as a legend who did the math here in the comments stated) would seriously not save time, unless you were one of the luckiest people on the planet, by the time you would normally beat the rival with chimchar, smants run would be over, several times

  • @KuroShurei
    @KuroShurei 4 года назад +3

    I tried a nuzlocke and, I didn't... It's just... CYNTHIA'S GARCHOMP IS SO MERCILESS

  • @Elite_JSM
    @Elite_JSM 4 года назад +22

    It’s funny how he thinks everyone has a second monitor

    • @Tree_-wp5zn
      @Tree_-wp5zn 3 года назад +2

      Small is a RUclipsr mate..it won't make sense if he doesn't.

  • @SilverShinyCharizard
    @SilverShinyCharizard 2 года назад +1

    if he had chosen chimchar, his opponent would have been piplup, who not only lowers your attack every time if it doesn't attack with pound, meaning the battle takes longer just like with piplup vs turtwig, but also can't even miss the attacking move pound
    that would've been straight-up stupid of him ngl

  • @Wally-mz8yr
    @Wally-mz8yr 4 года назад +3

    There is also a b/w run of this by ChaoticMeatBall and a hg/ss one by zwiggo btw

  • @VirtualMarmalade
    @VirtualMarmalade 4 года назад +1

    0:50 its easy to spend a lot of hours in gen 4 because every battle takes 100 years

  • @shivsankarbanerjee5675
    @shivsankarbanerjee5675 2 года назад +3

    The 1st few minutes was about why he fucking can not use chimchar

  • @dauntlesstark9850
    @dauntlesstark9850 4 года назад +14

    Hey PC I was wonder when you are grinding out for levels do you plan for EV'S and IV'S or do you not have time for that ?

  • @marmalademagnus4174
    @marmalademagnus4174 4 года назад +9

    SmallAnt1, you, and RTGame are my favorite streamers.

    • @justjoannak
      @justjoannak 4 года назад

      He just goes by SmallAnt

  • @curator3539
    @curator3539 2 года назад

    That is insane to be. To do no damage is already crazy and I love how your brain was like, 'but how to make harder??' LOL!

  • @arceususedsplash300
    @arceususedsplash300 4 года назад +62

    Yes. I ve been waiting for someone calling himself the best in something that hasnt got a leaderboard
    Oh yeah. You should link the video you react to

    • @thijswent1483
      @thijswent1483 4 года назад +8

      Wait are you being sarcastic or do you actually have a problem with him calling himself a pro nuzlocker

    • @Thagann
      @Thagann 4 года назад +13

      he does nuzlockes for a job , and he nuzlocked the hardest kaizo , so I guess he's really the best.

    • @sandrocampos-benitez4487
      @sandrocampos-benitez4487 4 года назад +21

      Lol what a weird passive-aggressive comment?
      Do agree with the link part tho :)

    • @notscorchingsands9718
      @notscorchingsands9718 4 года назад +3

      You don't need a leaderboard lmfao

    • @dawsonp8809
      @dawsonp8809 4 года назад +1

      Well I mean it isn’t that hard to search up one thing, so yeah

  • @angelotorres1
    @angelotorres1 4 года назад +1

    the intro is purely chaotic evil. the quick attack and the hahahahhaha
    I loved it

  • @bradynbrunson6038
    @bradynbrunson6038 4 года назад +16

    Dude... you have inspired me to try a nuzlocke... and wish me luck on my first nuzlocke challenge, doing Sword, cause wanted to replay it

    • @TanoTuesday
      @TanoTuesday 4 года назад +3

      Be prepared for Opals gym. She killed my nuzlocke the first time

    • @veeeter8402
      @veeeter8402 4 года назад +1

      how do you even nuzlocke swsh? the pokemon appear on the overworld

    • @TanoTuesday
      @TanoTuesday 4 года назад +4

      @@veeeter8402 ez first pokemon you see in the wild is the one u catch

  • @Semor-bn1lh
    @Semor-bn1lh 3 года назад +1

    What is the "hacking music" at 2:22 ? I swear I've heard it before. I want to say its from Made In Abyss but I'm probably wrong