00:00:00 NM v. Hannah Gutierrez 00:37:43 STATE WITNESS #17: CORPORAL ALEXANDRIA HANCOCK - LEAD CASE AGENT WITH SANTA FE COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE (Continues) 00:38:27 Police Interrogation Video Continues 02:05:44 LUNCH BREAK 02:43:09 Testimony Continues 02:55:12 Technical issues in court 04:32:04 Police Interrogation Video continues 05:18:08 Cross-Examination of Lead Case Agent Corporal Hancock 07:04:50 Redirect 07:19:48 STATE WITNESS #18: GABRIELLE PICKLE, LINE PRODUCER FOR 'RUST' #CourtTV Catch up on the facts of the case against #HannahGutierrez in the #BaldwinMovieShootingTrial. MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/trending/nm-v-hannah-gutierrez-reed/?
Wonder what Hannah was saying after Gabrielle Pickle left. Gabrielle smiled at her as she was walking by, Hannah was casting a death stare, the camera came back to her sitting there and one of the words was ‘fu@k’ it was very tight lipped so to me she seemed upset.
Her step-father thought that he trained her well, I wonder if he feels that way now after hearing about how careless, unorganized, irresponsible, and unprofessional she was.
"Her step-father thought that he trained her well," He might have said that for PR purpose. Same with families of the accused always saying "but he/she is a wonderful person..." In reality he might be in the same chain of thought, that his name and having her around his workplace would be enough "training" already.
It’s not what her father taught her it’s the fact she was high on cocaine. The whole set was clownery and the ones taking their jobs seriously were the ones who got shot at. Absolutely infuriating. She will be found guilt and I hope Alec too. That guy is just as worse as Hanna.
In the last video she was putting her leg up over the arm of the chair and completely slouched back, like she was at home. So nonchalant for murdering a woman.
It is so crazy to me how different she looks sitting in court as opposed to what she looked like the day of the shooting. I know we aren’t here to judge her looks but it’s just such a stark contrast!
The way this court has functioned is beyond reproach. The lawyers and the judge exhibit zero professionalism, particularly the prosecutor. Halyna Hutchins family is not getting the justice they deserve.
Yeah I agree. Im not even a lawyer and honestly I could have done a better job questioning this witness 🤷♂️ . I fell asleep during the 3 hour lunch break. Bring judge Dorow in she will sort things out quick smart
I think that Hannah was doing Coca-Cola which is why she needed so many bathroom breaks and was frequently off the set. It would also help explain why she was disorganized, scatterbrained, and why she didn't do her job well. Then again... she could also just be disorganized, scatterbrained, and completely incapable of doing the duties of her job because she's unqualified and inexperienced. Who knows?! I'm just a person with an opinion.
She seems so unprofessional and unsophisticated and immature, you expect an armorer to be ex military or police or a former fire arms instructor not someone who comes across as a Saturday girl in Hot Topic.
I am convinced that's why they hired her, inexpensive and she didn't know enough nor was ever given the ability to be in charge of this and make these people slow down. Money, money, money, and ignorant older men thinking they know best.
it seems strange to me that Hannah has this detached sort of defensive and relatively unemotional disposition given the tragic situation; even if you felt completely confident that it wasn't your fault most people would still feel pretty fucked up about the situation I'd imagine
She can’t admit guilt tho- or feeling guilty or weak. That window closed for her in about 5 minutes time. Sadly. She just cannot afford to do that. Even if that’s how she feels deep down.
I get what you're saying and I agree that her mind potentially went to that place so we're not seeing hr authentic reaction at that point, but I don't think that displaying sadness over the death of a co-worker on a set you worked on does show guilt, inversely actively trying to not display the appropriate emotional reaction connected to grief might imply guilt @@missychelle33
During the police interview, she showed no remorse, empathy, or concern for the two people shot. Wasn’t asking how they were doing. Didn’t seem to be upset.
@@missychelle33She did briefly as the police arrived. She was only concerned for herself still, but she was aware how much she had f***ed up and expressed as much in her panic. Later she got it together a bit. And then there is a stark contrast in her second interview as she hangs her arm casually over the back of her chair and laughs a lot about it all.
I can't figure out her personality. Youthful arrogance? Substance abuse issues? Denial or ignorance of how serious the situation is? I just can't fathom complete apathy, I want to explain it somehow.
She has the demeanor of someone explaining stolen equipment from the set to an Insurance Adjuster rather than the unaliving of the beautiful talented Halyna Hutchins by her own negligence. I am stunned by her lack of remorse or at the least for compassion. She does deserve a sentence because she truly doesn’t think she has done anything wrong and her lack of accountability is mind blowing.
Beautiful talented Halyna Hutchins? You didn't even know who she was until she died. And you would've never known who she was. You have no idea or understanding of her supposed "talent." What made her so talented? You have no comprehensive knowledge of her talent. Odds are you've probably never seen a movie she's worked on. And if you did, you wouldn't be able to pinpoint what exactly she did, and explain her talent. I get it, it's a tragedy. But let's not act like she was some super famous beloved public figure when she was alive.
So, are you undead? How long do plan to be undead?😂😂😂😂. You can be undead longer by listening to your armorer on set than you can be spending all your time slamming them and playing with their toys without asking or told not to.
@@I_WANT_MY_SLAW “Some super famous beloved figure”? Wow! Is that what you need to be to be beautiful, talented, and loved… I’m sure her husband and child saw her as a famous beloved figure. Your comment is shallow, are you 12?
@@shanonnunn4128 because he's not her family. It's actually shallow to say that about someone you didn't know or care about while they were alive. Her death is a tragedy, but to act like you knew her, and were a fan of her work, or even knew what she did, is shallow.
I'm still shocked they had someone like this had been hired, but not after reading the back story. I thought only a licensed professional did a job like this.
Ok.. what the hell is wrong Ms big lips? She remembers everything that she seen/said from the over confident prosecutor but plays stupid with Defense lawyer? Ohhh.. and why would get huge lip injections right before you are to testify on national tv? Just a question?! IMO it’s just too much!
Agreed. Those lip injections have her sounding like a half lit frat girl. Couple that with her complete lack of competence in any part of the investigation and she has handed the case over to the defense.
She remembers everything she's being shown when it's clear what it is and which part of the case it is. She struggles when defence grabs random evidence out of context and tries to make a statement about it in the form of a loose question. She's correct not to guess and make the defence ask a proper question with context. "Say you remember this photo so that I can say a bit about what I think" is not appropriate from defence. They got there in the end when he was made to present evidence using the proper process. But yeah, her lip filler is repulsive.
This is what happens when they ask you to talk to the police without your lawyer... You end up an exhibit as a criminal defendant. Next time.. stop. Get a Lawyer.
Right!! I feel like Hannah would be in a lot better spot if she got a lawyer and kept her big mother shut. Talking to those investors like it was cocktail hour in a tiny ass room that’s built to make you spill the beans.
Is a “special” prosecutor less experienced!? If I had acted this way in my high school mock trials, I would have failed the class! She seems to be coaching witnesses, disrespecting the judge, and having toddler fights with the defense attorneys! It’s absolutely insane that any court would allow a prosecutor to act like this.
I think so and I think mister Bowles is having the opposite Fact I like listening to him, He sounds intelligent He goes about things in a very deliberate manner it's not off putting or overly antagonistic but still seems to have killer instinct I think we're seeing prosecutor really act like a rake and lose her cool Cause he's gotten the better of her today And I think as far as the proceedings he's drawn 1st blood
I cannot believe the attitude and audacity of her in that police interview. Unbelievable, sat there like shes completely innocent trying to dis her boss and insinuate shes the bad one! Saying shes stupid for a misfire but she done the exact same and also on the Nic cage set. That girl is a liability, i wouldnt believe one word thst comes out her mouth, shes full of it! She loaded the weapon and didnt check it before giving it to the actor, at least her boss knew the difference between a dummy and a real bullet. The brass neck on her 😳😳😳
Because she didn't check it. I agree. Let's pretend there is a mass conspiracy. Every single person on the set swapped out all the dummies for live rounds in order to frame the defendant. The point of this trial from the state is to show the defendant caused the death through recklessness and negligence. She was the armourer and she was supposed to check each round before giving the gun to anyone. She was also supposed to ensure her weapons and rounds were kept locked away when not in use. She herself has claimed to hand off the gun without checking on the assumption that it had been checked before lunch, even while admitting others had access to the safe. She herself admitted that she dumped the weapons and ammo loose on the cart. Defence is trying to cause doubt by hinting at conspiracy, inexperience, pressure, jealous exes. While I don't think this happened, It is true that anyone could have placed anything anywhere at any time and led to this. That is because the defendant was negligent in her handling of the weapons and rounds and that is what prosecution is arguing. Even if she had continued to lazily defer handling of these things to others and had rounds all mixed up in bags in her car and various pockets, this could all have been avoided by doing that extra check after lunch. She didn't. The things defence are arguing actually all go against her because they indicate a dire need to check each round and each weapon repeatedly and thoroughly, even if that was not her normal practice - which it damn well should have been.
@@JHJHJHJHJHNononono. She dumped the ammo on the cart AFTER the gun went off on Alec. At lunch break they lock the guns up in the gun safe at the other end of the set and go to Chow. Did she dump them in the cart before Chow? And she loaded the same 5 when they came back from Chow. Pretty sure she checked them then. That would be kinda obvious. So let's say someone switched one on her while they were at chow and she didn't check so closely? Is she still liable if someone screwed up her game plan and handled things without permission??
@@JHJHJHJHJHof course she's going to have things all mixed up in boxes.shes the only armorer on the set. With 22 guns to maintain and at least three different calibers. And four or five types. That's 12-15 round styles to maintain. So she loads a box with what she needs for the day and a fanny pack with a couple pockets. Sets up the guns as soon as she knows what they're going to shoot for scenes and what they're going to need. Sounds like she kept blanks in the fanny pack. .45LCs on one side, .44-40s on the other. 12ga. In back. How many pockets in a fanny pack? 4? She should have had a van for this job. Did she have a car? Heard people bitchin because she kept ammo in the trunk.😮.
What distasteful behavior from this Prosecutor- sure it might not be her responsibility to assist the defense attorney’s with working video equipment but I’ve never seen a Prosecutor refuse to help like she did here. It’s called common courtesy.
So far we've gathered the ammo was sourced from different sources including from another film, there was no inventory and it is unclear whether the boxes were thoroughly checked even before any of the ammo had to be used. I understand the boxes may have had mixed ammo before they even got to the set. Also, something about different manufacturers & reconditioning --which I did not fully grasp. In short, no rigorous sourcing, checking & following of procedures. And 3 people handling the guns, a prop truck not locked & a basic carte accessible to anyone --with twi young women with little experience & no authority.
I really wish people in comments can limit their opinions to the actual trial and not judge everyone’s appearances. Are we adults in here? Just so you know, it’s pink shirt day in Canada and this is just bullying, let’s set an example for the kids.
People have always judged as much by appearance as evidence. In Roman courts the defendant would wear cheap low class clothes to make themselves look sympathetic. If they did not it would go against them. Cicero tells us about it. So many things about human being have not really changed much in 2,000 years.
Any request for training no matter the age of a person should NEVER be denied let alone for insurance reasons-because it would cost a little more.. so what! Pay that extra…
I know, right? It's like, so what if the kid doesn't have to hold a gun. Maybe he's got a habit of picking up stuff and playing with things when he's not reading lines. Some kids just weren't raised properly. Ever seen someone have an "accident" when told to do something that they don't want to do? Like their job? Happens All the time.
My understanding is that it was specified that the minor would not be expected to or allowed to handle a real firearm. So he simply wasn't in need of the training to begin with.
There are so many red flags going off in this interview, it’s actually cringe worthy. They didn’t push her hard enough, in my opinion. How could she not know there were live rounds all over the set ? Her casual, nonchalant attitude is alarming and the fact she is trying to shift blame anywhere else but herself is also a major red flag 🚩 This interview is pretty damning tbh and she might want to eat as many home cooked dinners as possible over the next few weeks 🤷♂️
I wanted to know what the armorer’s education, training, and experience was prior to starting work on the movie Rust. What I found is listed below: She studied film at Northern Arizona University and graduated in 2020. Gutierrez-Reed's coursework included cinematography and lighting-design classes, as she wanted to become a cinematographer, per the outlet. Gutierrez-Reed had just a handful of other film gigs on her résumé before Rust. This is important because she was trying to train and govern actors in a field in which she knew nothing. This is a great example of the blind leading the blind. It makes this a real tragedy because qualified armorers can be found…if nothing else…get a prior service military armorer. That’s not a perfect solution, but it’s better than nothing. They acted like the position of armorer on the movie was a feel good position, and that simply isn’t true. So, the actors were suspected to trust and rely on someone who lacked the life experience, maturity, certifications, education, training, and experience. She wants to train them, but she does not have their respect because she does not have the qualifications. This is the most important aspect of the shooting, and nobody is talking about the armorers lack of qualification. This does not mean she was not a nice person…she just wasn’t qualified to do the job; college class is on cinematography or film mean nothing on this subject. The accident happened because she was not qualified, was sloppy, was not respected, had no authority, and lacked the education, training, and experience. This was an accident waiting to happen. Your thoughts… TrainWreck
I agree with you that it has become pretty apparent from court testimony that she didn’t have the experience or the maturity to be head armorer on such a gun heavy set however, I don’t agree that she “knew nothing” about ammo & gun safety. It sounds to me like the bulk of her training came from her father who is a leader in this industry- he said he began teaching her “everything [he] knows” when she was a child & gun safety was a huge part of that. IMO she no doubt had the knowledge but I believe her inexperience in this role combined with her immaturity were large contributing factors in what happened here. She stated Alec was not showing up for training & was on the phone when he did show up & that it was too difficult to tell this big star actor what to do. That could very well be true but it also further speaks to her inexperience. One would expect a Head Armourer to possess the skills necessary to take control of every weapon on the set and every person whose hands are on them no matter how famous they are. And if her statements are true- she could have called her father for advice on how to handle the Baldwin situation. Shame on her for accepting & remaining in a position she wasn’t ready for & shame on the Rust personnel responsible for hiring her when they ought to have known she wasn’t experienced enough.
@@kk3940 I understand…nothing…was a bit harsh. However, when I said that I had no idea who her father was…so nothing was a bit harsh. That said, the job requires so much more than just school work….life experience, leadership, authority…etc.
😂 the defense attorney in this case is hilariously awful. He missed half the of the witnesses answers and makes them repeat themselves endlessly. Feel kind of sorry for Hannah having that for her defense
Objection - Would council please refrain from snorting/clearing his nose directly into the microphone in between repeating the same questions to the lead detective in the case..? Lol.
This LEO has lost all credibility for me after this cross!! Although I still believe Hannah Reed was responsible for every weapon every round,dummy or other wise on that set and is indeed guilty of negligence. Unfortunately she couldn’t or wouldn’t stand up for herself and the lives of those put in her hands by demanding a clean organized space that NOONE touched but her. As the Armorer she is responsible to make those firearms safe and should have never handed them to anyone except the person who was holstering it. A check then should have been done with that actor if they didn’t want a check then they shouldn’t have received the weapon. Alec Baldwin or an unknown actor no difference. If that secondary check was done there would have been no death. She should have been the only person loading those weapons. As an Armorer she would have known there was a live round if she was paying attention. Alec Baldwin not only as a gun owner but as the writer,director and producer should have demanded the check of that weapon in front of him and only then she should have declared that weapon “safe or cold” Hannah was cocky and over confident I believe bc her father has been a film Armorer for 30 yrs and he trained her (my opinion) there are actors such as Keanu Reeves and Nicholas Cage who have said they do not Allow any cutting of corners when it comes to gun safety on their sets.
The whole set was careless, throwing Hannah as the new person to take the fall. They been doing careless acts way before she was hired, ignored her asking for more training
Yes, the set was a mess yet it doesn’t take culpability away from the defendant, as the soul person given the job for the care,safety and maintenance of those firearms. They charged the right person.
The only training day denied was because it was requested by Hannah to train a minor who would not even be handling a gun in the film. It was completely unnecessary.
Everyone else could be careless. It was only Hannah being careless that mattered. She brought live ammo. If she wasn’t doing drugs then she could focus more on her responsibilities. No live ammo = no death. Hannah’s responsibility = her fault.
This defence guy is just constantly plucking at straws. You did this did you not? No. Are you sure? Yes. Are you positive? Yes. Are you absolutely positively sure? Yes. How many times??? The Corporal held herself extremely well. Very confident. I believe she walked all over him!
I think that this detective, being rather new to being head of an investigation, is doing a good job and is well spoken and deliberate under questioning.
She's so laid back she's horizontal, i wouldn't have let her go to the shops for me let alone be an armour, she has no fkn clue what she was doing, she's acting like these guns are hot at all times and ppl fire live bullets all the time, she's a sociopath and i think she hoped to do this and get away with it, the crew threatened to quit as there was 2 misfires before the 1 that killed Halyna and look at her reaction to her 1st interview compared to Baldwins.
I think I am going to overlook the detective’s looks and see how smart she is, as I am still waiting for the defenses cross on her. To come to her defense, if she even had a tiny bit of lip filler put in, as I had had it myself when I was younger, sometimes your lips swell up the first few days after injections then settle down into a nice average volume.
@@gaganorthofthe49th62no, your lips don’t “swell up” like this if you have a good injector who knows what they’re doing. She’s overfilled and had the filler done by a strip mall worker.
1:12:23 She remembers to open up and clean out that one cavity in the Rust gun at the cart just before it was needed, and when she was shaking the bullet again to make sure she could hear the rattle, Dave was at her ear saying hey we need that gun it here, she puts it in the chamber so Dave’s fault, then when she shows Dave the gun in a gun chamber check Halyna and Joel is talking to Dave so it’s also their fault as he says can you just hurry it up. Wow I am stunned by her lack of complete accountability. I wouldn’t be surprised if she isn’t deep down blaming Halyna for unaliving.
I think you're kinda transferring responsibility here. Everybody is. She wanted time to train Alec in the cross draw. You know what training is? That's telling and showing someone how to do something. How to do it, how to make it look right, how to do it safely. What happens if the gun is loaded with blanks and the hammer is resting on a hot chamber and the hammer catches his coat lapel on the way out?? BOOM!!! Some ammos will go off dropping them on the floor. Or sitting on a cart in the sun on a hot day.
O BTW. That cavity is called a chamber. It's in a thing called a cylinder. Six chambers to a cylinder. Shells slide into the chamber when you load the gun. She was loading dummies, which look like a real live bullet for the most parts, except that they don't go boom. Often made out of live ammo that has gone boom and makes the casing a little larger so it doesn't always fit in every chamber. But, just to make sure that was it she cleaned the chamber and probably tried a different dummy round. Or, she's just making this up so she doesn't have to explain the real reason that she left the chamber empty so she wouldn't have to argue with someone that thinks that they know more about guns than she does. What do you think it is?
Isn’t it interesting that the production crew would hire an Armorer for a western film who has zero gun training skills and licensing except for what her father taught her? This was young inexperienced person who wasnt drug tested and allowed to be under the influence during her time employed to provide real guns in a movie. Absolutely a recipe for an involuntary manslaughter!! Its is clear the production crew were all as liable if not more than the Armorer. Like leaving a teenager in charge of a firearm
Nor does his client. Armorer department and Properties are extremely specific to the script and rehearsal; often things are categorized, date stamped, photographed if you're on a time crunch and best form of documentation if there are any questions at all, which is a constant on set. Further armory and prop truck are inventoried each night to cover last minute script changes, rehearsals, turning camera around and essential and keep on top of script changes!--If you know how to do the job and run 2 departments. There are clean sentences that get to the heart of the matter not clever innuendo, if properties and armorer dept wanted to handle the brass on set.
@@Lisa-io6pr the whole thing is a mess. And tbh I like Alec and was trying to be “it’s not his fault” until I saw that video the other day of him shouting at everyone to hurry up and all that. Completely unprofessional especially when there are firearms involved. He added immense pressure to every single person on set. It’s just not necessary. He was 100% part of the problem- even if it hadn’t been him who pulled the trigger.
What's wrong with that? People die on set every minute. According to her. It's like putting stamps on a letter. Happens all day. She's as cool as a cucumber.
She could have autism and handling serious situations whether it’s sad or exciting. Example she may cry way more at a funeral of someone she doesn’t know and cry very little to none at all at someone she did know very well. The way she is reacting to this is underwhelming. She most likely hasn’t processed fully what’s going on in both interviews. Still fresh. Not saying she’s not guilty of negligence but her reactions should be taken with a grain of salt until we see more.
Why in God's name did Hannah submit a receipt to get reimbursed for an inertia puller? An inertia puller a.k.a. bullet puller is only used to remove bullets/projectiles from the casings of fully assembled rounds. It's typically used by people to reload live ammo or dissemble live ammo for a number of reloading reasons. It does make perfect sense for an Armorer to have one, since it can be used to confirm without a doubt that a dummy round has no gun powder in it, or has BB's, or check to see if the primer is inert, etc. But she never mentions doing any of these types of procedures. IMO She doesn't seem to have the expertise to even know what an inertia puller is. I shudder to think of the alternate explanation for her possessing that tool.
She handed the gun to Dave. Dave handed it to Alec. They haven't even proved that was the gun that fired the shot. No powder tests. No fingerprints. FBI said Hannah's DNA didn't show up on the handle. What's the difference between a Baldwin gun, and evidence gun, and an exemplar? This is not question for kindergartners or first graders. Mrs. Pickle is a time planner/scheduler/keeper that isn't even on a set. Not sure how she time studies these things. Going by how long it takes to hunt ghosts, I suppose. 10 years of ghost busting with a couple of 9mm's doesn't really qualify anyone for anything.
Maybe they’re natural. Before lip fillers there were people with big lips. And who cares anyway? We aren’t talking about the defense, attorneys waxed giant dome
Wow, this prosecutor is massively rude and unprofessional. The detective is clearly practiced and was also rude. Both are unlikable. Wondering if the jurors feel the same way!
Lead investigator - 'There's circumstancial evidence the live is from Hannah's so forget checking anyone else, and don't even bother speaking with the guy whose initials are on the box.'
Hannah in first interview was hungover , on cocaine hence tampering charge , in second video you can clearly see she’s cleaned up off the drugs . She gave a 11 year old actress a unsafe gun , she misfired on Nicolas cage set . She doesn’t even have 1 license for anything she doesn’t even have a permit to carry . She was negligent and neglectful.
All I can say is you gotta be sleeping or in drugs not to see the inconsistencies in the prosecution witness testimony. They haven't proved anything in this trial except that the FBI screwed up a perfectly good Pietta .45LC by shock testing it. It's probably failure analysis. How hard do you have to drop a Pietta .45LC with the hammer cocked to get it to discharge? Turns out it's pretty hard.
I must say, though, for that shock testing to be fair and accurate they should have done it with one of those live rounds from the box, not off the shelf FBI standard rounds. Those are probably Federal and not what was in the gun at the time of discharge.
Correct. His only defence is to trying to make every witness look bad by discrediting everything they’ve said. Nothing he can say will change the fact that Hannah loaded the live round into the revolver and then failed to notice, regardless of where it came from. Gross negligence. That is beyond reasonable doubt.
The Corporal's smugness and coincidental lack of memory for every question she does not want to answer on cross is so irritating. Along with the abrasive, sarcastic demeanor of the DA during cross is very off-putting to me. I do believe HGR's lack of organization and apathetic attitude towards her armorer duties lays some culpability at her feet. BUT I cannot stop thinking that after HGR handed the gun off inside the church and left - anyone that touched the gun could have loaded a live round into the cylinder. I'm not saying it's probable, just saying it is possible.
This Prosecution attorney has the most nastiness off putting attitude I’ve ever seen! There is no need for her to be so rude and hateful. It’s off putting to everyone in the court room!
Frightening 2nd interview with GR,no actual records just” I THINK and yeah…” WHERE ARE THE PRINT OUTS OF EACH USE?!!!” The bullets were in her bag… along with her lip gloss
She's immature for LOTS of jobs out there, let alone being responsible for weaponry in a filming set. The way of talking (lots of cursing), the age, her baby-like reaction when confronted by the first officer... She must be held accountable, but so does whoever hired her as well. It was crystal clear she was not fit for the job, regardless who was her father and all.
Baldwin did not hire her or anyone his producer title was creative fluff his role as producer did not involve such things as crew hire location etc he helped on the script and would get back kick money from profits as a “producer” both the director and jenson ackles have tried to explain this yet everyone keeps saying Baldwin hired her or cut costs. Nope the department heads hired their own people keeping within their allocated budgets given out via the actual REAL producers who are in charge of money etc so Baldwin can’t actually b touched as a producer as he wasn’t a “real” producer and as an actor well he was told the gun was cold as in even if he pulled the trigger 100x it would not go off as safe so he was lead to believe all was safe and was instructed by halayna herself to take the gun out and position it in such a way that they can c the dummies in the barrel and get the specific shot they want I believe even in one clip you hear a male voice tell him to take the gun out and point to which Baldwin confirms you want me to whip it out …. Yes…. Ok and point it at which side of the camera left or right camera B?……males voice “yes” soooo he was told gun was safe had no reason to lie about pulling trigger cause that still would not have put him at fault as told gun was cold and only pointed in at camera side as A. He was led to believe cold gun no harm can come from it and B he was instructed to do so. Tbh I don’t see how they are going to get a jury to find him guilty.
I think she is responsible for the death, but I feel sorry for her. Who hires a young, inexperienced person to do such a complicated job involving firearms? I feel like they wanted to save money and hired the least expensive person they could get by with. They wanted to fulfill the need for an armorer with someone they could push around. Baldwin wanted to play cowboy, and didn't want anyone to tell him what to do. That is the impression I'm getting.
100% was a budget issue, she was not ready. It does put her in a hard spot to have to stand up to someone like Alec Baldwin, but if she doesn’t have the leadership to do so, she shouldn’t take the job.
This prosecutor and judge are making me not like them. And I think she needs to be held accountable but man the states behavior is making me feel bad for Hannah! Don’t screw this one up prosecutor!
Watching it late… I like this prosecutor, she seems to know her stuff. I was definitely not thrilled with the way she was laughing today. The defense lawyer seems so genuine to me, so far and that seemed so unnecessary. Just gave me an ‘ick’ feeling about the whole scene.
The Prosecution isn’t doing herself any favors by being so snide & laughing. She’s an embarrassment to the legal system. So far the lack of professionalism during this entire ‘investigation’ has been horrible. The State has dropped the ball and in doing so it has become nothing more than a witch hunt. THE STATE IS NOT YOUR FRIEND--innocent or not
Defendant ,,,,, must have been told to try to present herself as a normal individual.,. Wonder if she still has the same tendencies to curse every 3 words ? Blames everyone on set ,,, but none of it was on her ?
The fact that the defense is trying to blame someone from days before the homicide, off the set, for what Reid did and didn't do ON the set, is pathetic. Can you spell REACHING?
00:00:00 NM v. Hannah Gutierrez
00:37:43 STATE WITNESS #17: CORPORAL ALEXANDRIA HANCOCK - LEAD CASE AGENT WITH SANTA FE COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE (Continues)
00:38:27 Police Interrogation Video Continues
02:05:44 LUNCH BREAK
02:43:09 Testimony Continues
02:55:12 Technical issues in court
04:32:04 Police Interrogation Video continues
05:18:08 Cross-Examination of Lead Case Agent Corporal Hancock
07:04:50 Redirect
07:19:48 STATE WITNESS #18: GABRIELLE PICKLE, LINE PRODUCER FOR 'RUST'
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Wonder what Hannah was saying after Gabrielle Pickle left. Gabrielle smiled at her as she was walking by, Hannah was casting a death stare, the camera came back to her sitting there and one of the words was ‘fu@k’ it was very tight lipped so to me she seemed upset.
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Her step-father thought that he trained her well, I wonder if he feels that way now after hearing about how careless, unorganized, irresponsible, and unprofessional she was.
Well said
As someone who worked in a safety environment, I’m shocked at the lack of professionalism from her.
"Her step-father thought that he trained her well," He might have said that for PR purpose. Same with families of the accused always saying "but he/she is a wonderful person..." In reality he might be in the same chain of thought, that his name and having her around his workplace would be enough "training" already.
It’s not what her father taught her it’s the fact she was high on cocaine. The whole set was clownery and the ones taking their jobs seriously were the ones who got shot at.
Absolutely infuriating. She will be found guilt and I hope Alec too. That guy is just as worse as Hanna.
@@shesomadelinejust as worse? Just as bad! What back hills do you live behind? Assumptions. You weren't there.
Her demeanor during interview is very odd considering someone died and another was shot! Boggles my mind.
In the last video she was putting her leg up over the arm of the chair and completely slouched back, like she was at home. So nonchalant for murdering a woman.
My thoughts exactly. A little too comfortable. That is a child that doesn't realize they are about to be in a world of trouble.
She’s an immature spoiled brat.
This is what happens when you get a job by who you know and not experience. She’s way too young, immature and NOT experienced. Shameful.
Drugs
I am guessing that the camera crew that walked off is very grateful that they chose to do so. L
It is so crazy to me how different she looks sitting in court as opposed to what she looked like the day of the shooting. I know we aren’t here to judge her looks but it’s just such a stark contrast!
From leftie lesbian to assistant manager
The way this court has functioned is beyond reproach. The lawyers and the judge exhibit zero professionalism, particularly the prosecutor. Halyna Hutchins family is not getting the justice they deserve.
She's not on trial agianst the family. They filed a wrongful death suit, and it was settled.
@@I_WANT_MY_SLAW a criminal trial is never brought by a family it’s always by the state. What’s your point?
Yeah I agree. Im not even a lawyer and honestly I could have done a better job questioning this witness 🤷♂️ . I fell asleep during the 3 hour lunch break. Bring judge Dorow in she will sort things out quick smart
@@brianam7471 are you trying to get punched in the face? Why adding in the rude snarky snarky what's your point. Say that to my face.
She’s charged with involuntary manslaughter, not murder.
Interesting demeanor and language for a police onterview
She seemed shy but then was very sure of herself
Interesting!??? Seriously!??
This “Detective” is TOTALLY
OUT TO LUNCH!
@@katet3327 this is "my lawyer is babysitting me" effect.
The real crime is the Dr. who did those lip injections.
Yeah but she’s still a babe.
Not funny. You're not here to judge people.
Hahahahahahaha
Reminds me of fat Albert....
They may not be fake
I think that Hannah was doing Coca-Cola which is why she needed so many bathroom breaks and was frequently off the set. It would also help explain why she was disorganized, scatterbrained, and why she didn't do her job well.
Then again... she could also just be disorganized, scatterbrained, and completely incapable of doing the duties of her job because she's unqualified and inexperienced. Who knows?! I'm just a person with an opinion.
Excellent assessment
💯…Getting the powder off the cart
EXACTLY 💯
It's called entitlement, coming from "my dad IS the industry."
Little rich girl would never have got the job were it not for her father
The corporal needs to cut back on the botox.
and a weird head movement tick. like she is shaking her hair
Nah the Botox looks good she’s just gone overboard with the lip injections
...and fix her damn hair. The flipping is so annoying!
Right!! She got all done up for her public appearances
I don’t know if her lips are real but her hair looks beautiful and seems natural
She seems so unprofessional and unsophisticated and immature, you expect an armorer to be ex military or police or a former fire arms instructor not someone who comes across as a Saturday girl in Hot Topic.
I am convinced that's why they hired her, inexpensive and she didn't know enough nor was ever given the ability to be in charge of this and make these people slow down. Money, money, money, and ignorant older men thinking they know best.
You would think. but they are trying to save money and she is much easier to push around.
it seems strange to me that Hannah has this detached sort of defensive and relatively unemotional disposition given the tragic situation; even if you felt completely confident that it wasn't your fault most people would still feel pretty fucked up about the situation I'd imagine
She can’t admit guilt tho- or feeling guilty or weak. That window closed for her in about 5 minutes time. Sadly. She just cannot afford to do that. Even if that’s how she feels deep down.
I get what you're saying and I agree that her mind potentially went to that place so we're not seeing hr authentic reaction at that point, but I don't think that displaying sadness over the death of a co-worker on a set you worked on does show guilt, inversely actively trying to not display the appropriate emotional reaction connected to grief might imply guilt @@missychelle33
During the police interview, she showed no remorse, empathy, or concern for the two people shot. Wasn’t asking how they were doing. Didn’t seem to be upset.
@@missychelle33She did briefly as the police arrived. She was only concerned for herself still, but she was aware how much she had f***ed up and expressed as much in her panic. Later she got it together a bit. And then there is a stark contrast in her second interview as she hangs her arm casually over the back of her chair and laughs a lot about it all.
I can't figure out her personality. Youthful arrogance? Substance abuse issues? Denial or ignorance of how serious the situation is? I just can't fathom complete apathy, I want to explain it somehow.
She has the demeanor of someone explaining stolen equipment from the set to an Insurance Adjuster rather than the unaliving of the beautiful talented Halyna Hutchins by her own negligence. I am stunned by her lack of remorse or at the least for compassion. She does deserve a sentence because she truly doesn’t think she has done anything wrong and her lack of accountability is mind blowing.
Beautiful talented Halyna Hutchins? You didn't even know who she was until she died. And you would've never known who she was. You have no idea or understanding of her supposed "talent." What made her so talented? You have no comprehensive knowledge of her talent. Odds are you've probably never seen a movie she's worked on. And if you did, you wouldn't be able to pinpoint what exactly she did, and explain her talent. I get it, it's a tragedy. But let's not act like she was some super famous beloved public figure when she was alive.
Maybe she didnt do anything wrong?? What a concept. Thats why the trial,
So, are you undead? How long do plan to be undead?😂😂😂😂. You can be undead longer by listening to your armorer on set than you can be spending all your time slamming them and playing with their toys without asking or told not to.
@@I_WANT_MY_SLAW “Some super famous beloved figure”? Wow! Is that what you need to be to be beautiful, talented, and loved… I’m sure her husband and child saw her as a famous beloved figure. Your comment is shallow, are you 12?
@@shanonnunn4128 because he's not her family. It's actually shallow to say that about someone you didn't know or care about while they were alive. Her death is a tragedy, but to act like you knew her, and were a fan of her work, or even knew what she did, is shallow.
I'm still shocked they had someone like this had been hired, but not after reading the back story. I thought only a licensed professional did a job like this.
I think that's why they liked her.
My lips hurt for some reason 😮
Don't get lippy. 👄
I know! A little to much injections!
Expect more if they need her back!
😂😂😂😂
Ok.. what the hell is wrong Ms big lips? She remembers everything that she seen/said from the over confident prosecutor but plays stupid with Defense lawyer?
Ohhh.. and why would get huge lip injections right before you are to testify on national tv? Just a question?! IMO it’s just too much!
Agreed. Those lip injections have her sounding like a half lit frat girl. Couple that with her complete lack of competence in any part of the investigation and she has handed the case over to the defense.
😬 you weren't lying either.😳
She remembers everything she's being shown when it's clear what it is and which part of the case it is. She struggles when defence grabs random evidence out of context and tries to make a statement about it in the form of a loose question. She's correct not to guess and make the defence ask a proper question with context.
"Say you remember this photo so that I can say a bit about what I think" is not appropriate from defence. They got there in the end when he was made to present evidence using the proper process.
But yeah, her lip filler is repulsive.
This is what happens when they ask you to talk to the police without your lawyer... You end up an exhibit as a criminal defendant. Next time.. stop. Get a Lawyer.
Right!! I feel like Hannah would be in a lot better spot if she got a lawyer and kept her big mother shut. Talking to those investors like it was cocktail hour in a tiny ass room that’s built to make you spill the beans.
Same with Alec Baldwin, all the interviews he did, should have got a lawyer and zipped his trap.
I believe that is Hannah’s lawyer sitting in the interview room with her, I could be wrong though.
@@ryanblow5260After the fact
The bald guy is her lawyer. He’s hardly saying anything. It’s insane.
Is a “special” prosecutor less experienced!? If I had acted this way in my high school mock trials, I would have failed the class! She seems to be coaching witnesses, disrespecting the judge, and having toddler fights with the defense attorneys! It’s absolutely insane that any court would allow a prosecutor to act like this.
Couldn’t agree more. It’s mind blowing that this behavior is acceptable in the courtroom. I feel she is intimidating to the witness.
YES
Prosecutor is so snarky, hostile and overly confident, I wonder if the jury dislikes her as much as I do
I think so and I think mister Bowles is having the opposite Fact I like listening to him, He sounds intelligent He goes about things in a very deliberate manner it's not off putting or overly antagonistic but still seems to have killer instinct I think we're seeing prosecutor really act like a rake and lose her cool Cause he's gotten the better of her today And I think as far as the proceedings he's drawn 1st blood
I totally agree with you "crimeinyc"...
Right
Honestly the way she looked at the judge was shocking! And she laughing at the defense lawyer in front of everyone was pathetic and I hope she loses
@@johnscott6481 He's a freaking clown...
I like the prosecutor ,she's doing a good job , getting the evidence out, nipple head defense is hurting his client being so argumentative and petty.
Poor dude it’s all he’s got
I cannot believe the attitude and audacity of her in that police interview. Unbelievable, sat there like shes completely innocent trying to dis her boss and insinuate shes the bad one! Saying shes stupid for a misfire but she done the exact same and also on the Nic cage set. That girl is a liability, i wouldnt believe one word thst comes out her mouth, shes full of it! She loaded the weapon and didnt check it before giving it to the actor, at least her boss knew the difference between a dummy and a real bullet. The brass neck on her 😳😳😳
She may be a sociopath. She has no feelings at all. Scary.
how did she become a judge?she's lost
Agreed. Who’s running the show, the judge or prosecutor??🤔
Whether the live ammunition came from her or someone else doesn't change the fact that she put it in the gun.
Because she didn't check it.
I agree. Let's pretend there is a mass conspiracy. Every single person on the set swapped out all the dummies for live rounds in order to frame the defendant. The point of this trial from the state is to show the defendant caused the death through recklessness and negligence. She was the armourer and she was supposed to check each round before giving the gun to anyone. She was also supposed to ensure her weapons and rounds were kept locked away when not in use. She herself has claimed to hand off the gun without checking on the assumption that it had been checked before lunch, even while admitting others had access to the safe. She herself admitted that she dumped the weapons and ammo loose on the cart.
Defence is trying to cause doubt by hinting at conspiracy, inexperience, pressure, jealous exes. While I don't think this happened, It is true that anyone could have placed anything anywhere at any time and led to this. That is because the defendant was negligent in her handling of the weapons and rounds and that is what prosecution is arguing. Even if she had continued to lazily defer handling of these things to others and had rounds all mixed up in bags in her car and various pockets, this could all have been avoided by doing that extra check after lunch. She didn't. The things defence are arguing actually all go against her because they indicate a dire need to check each round and each weapon repeatedly and thoroughly, even if that was not her normal practice - which it damn well should have been.
They came from her
@@JHJHJHJHJH exactly
@@JHJHJHJHJHNononono. She dumped the ammo on the cart AFTER the gun went off on Alec. At lunch break they lock the guns up in the gun safe at the other end of the set and go to Chow. Did she dump them in the cart before Chow? And she loaded the same 5 when they came back from Chow. Pretty sure she checked them then. That would be kinda obvious. So let's say someone switched one on her while they were at chow and she didn't check so closely? Is she still liable if someone screwed up her game plan and handled things without permission??
@@JHJHJHJHJHof course she's going to have things all mixed up in boxes.shes the only armorer on the set. With 22 guns to maintain and at least three different calibers. And four or five types. That's 12-15 round styles to maintain. So she loads a box with what she needs for the day and a fanny pack with a couple pockets. Sets up the guns as soon as she knows what they're going to shoot for scenes and what they're going to need. Sounds like she kept blanks in the fanny pack. .45LCs on one side, .44-40s on the other. 12ga. In back. How many pockets in a fanny pack? 4? She should have had a van for this job. Did she have a car? Heard people bitchin because she kept ammo in the trunk.😮.
What distasteful behavior from this Prosecutor- sure it might not be her responsibility to assist the defense attorney’s with working video equipment but I’ve never seen a Prosecutor refuse to help like she did here. It’s called common courtesy.
If that prosecutor doesn’t figure out what to do with her glasses, get contacts!!
Got to be subscribed for an hour to chat is insane
Why in the world were there any live rounds anywhere near the set or the surrounding area?
I was wondering the same! Why live rounds on a movie set. How is that even legal?
So far we've gathered the ammo was sourced from different sources including from another film, there was no inventory and it is unclear whether the boxes were thoroughly checked even before any of the ammo had to be used. I understand the boxes may have had mixed ammo before they even got to the set.
Also, something about different manufacturers & reconditioning --which I did not fully grasp.
In short, no rigorous sourcing, checking & following of procedures. And 3 people handling the guns, a prop truck not locked & a basic carte accessible to anyone --with twi young women with little experience & no authority.
"They yelled and starred at me" geeze its only like my one job to keep people safe from firearms!
I have never seen a bald head with such a shine on it.
Who wants to draw anymore attention to a bald head ?
😂 true.....my cat would have a blast with this baldie 😅
@@8TheOry 😂 I saw him talking to the judge yesterday and his head is huge when I saw it from behind.😯
Are we in another break? Are they coming back?
I really wish people in comments can limit their opinions to the actual trial and not judge everyone’s appearances. Are we adults in here? Just so you know, it’s pink shirt day in Canada and this is just bullying, let’s set an example for the kids.
People have always judged as much by appearance as evidence. In Roman courts the defendant would wear cheap low class clothes to make themselves look sympathetic. If they did not it would go against them. Cicero tells us about it.
So many things about human being have not really changed much in 2,000 years.
That’s one wasted wish ..Never gonna happen in a chat of this size.Many different types of people and therefore many different opinions.
Any request for training no matter the age of a person should NEVER be denied let alone for insurance reasons-because it would cost a little more.. so what! Pay that extra…
I know, right? It's like, so what if the kid doesn't have to hold a gun. Maybe he's got a habit of picking up stuff and playing with things when he's not reading lines. Some kids just weren't raised properly. Ever seen someone have an "accident" when told to do something that they don't want to do? Like their job? Happens All the time.
I was surprised the defense lawyer didnt followup with. So you cared more about time and money then savety? ( sorry if english is bad )
My understanding is that it was specified that the minor would not be expected to or allowed to handle a real firearm. So he simply wasn't in need of the training to begin with.
The counsel on both sides are arguing like a bunch of babies. It's getting out of hand.
Daycare brawl🤣
It's so obvious the prosecutor doesn't want the truth just the win!
I agree, and she got a bad attitude. All about winning her case
There are so many red flags going off in this interview, it’s actually cringe worthy. They didn’t push her hard enough, in my opinion. How could she not know there were live rounds all over the set ? Her casual, nonchalant attitude is alarming and the fact she is trying to shift blame anywhere else but herself is also a major red flag 🚩 This interview is pretty damning tbh and she might want to eat as many home cooked dinners as possible over the next few weeks 🤷♂️
THERE IS NO ONE THAT HAS REMORSE FOR WHAT HAPPENED, A WOMEN DIED ALL FINGER POINTERS WTF
I wanted to know what the armorer’s education, training, and experience was prior to starting work on the movie Rust. What I found is listed below:
She studied film at Northern Arizona University and graduated in 2020. Gutierrez-Reed's coursework included cinematography and lighting-design classes, as she wanted to become a cinematographer, per the outlet. Gutierrez-Reed had just a handful of other film gigs on her résumé before Rust.
This is important because she was trying to train and govern actors in a field in which she knew nothing. This is a great example of the blind leading the blind. It makes this a real tragedy because qualified armorers can be found…if nothing else…get a prior service military armorer. That’s not a perfect solution, but it’s better than nothing. They acted like the position of armorer on the movie was a feel good position, and that simply isn’t true. So, the actors were suspected to trust and rely on someone who lacked the life experience, maturity, certifications, education, training, and experience. She wants to train them, but she does not have their respect because she does not have the qualifications. This is the most important aspect of the shooting, and nobody is talking about the armorers lack of qualification.
This does not mean she was not a nice person…she just wasn’t qualified to do the job; college class is on cinematography or film mean nothing on this subject. The accident happened because she was not qualified, was sloppy, was not respected, had no authority, and lacked the education, training, and experience. This was an accident waiting to happen.
Your thoughts…
TrainWreck
I agree with you that it has become pretty apparent from court testimony that she didn’t have the experience or the maturity to be head armorer on such a gun heavy set however, I don’t agree that she “knew nothing” about ammo & gun safety. It sounds to me like the bulk of her training came from her father who is a leader in this industry- he said he began teaching her “everything [he] knows” when she was a child & gun safety was a huge part of that. IMO she no doubt had the knowledge but I believe her inexperience in this role combined with her immaturity were large contributing factors in what happened here.
She stated Alec was not showing up for training & was on the phone when he did show up & that it was too difficult to tell this big star actor what to do. That could very well be true but it also further speaks to her inexperience. One would expect a Head Armourer to possess the skills necessary to take control of every weapon on the set and every person whose hands are on them no matter how famous they are. And if her statements are true- she could have called her father for advice on how to handle the Baldwin situation.
Shame on her for accepting & remaining in a position she wasn’t ready for & shame on the Rust personnel responsible for hiring her when they ought to have known she wasn’t experienced enough.
@@kk3940 I understand…nothing…was a bit harsh. However, when I said that I had no idea who her father was…so nothing was a bit harsh. That said, the job requires so much more than just school work….life experience, leadership, authority…etc.
😂 the defense attorney in this case is hilariously awful. He missed half the of the witnesses answers and makes them repeat themselves endlessly. Feel kind of sorry for Hannah having that for her defense
Objection - Would council please refrain from snorting/clearing his nose directly into the microphone in between repeating the same questions to the lead detective in the case..? Lol.
Who was in charge of the drugs ,pot ,cocaine and live bullets WOW
This LEO has lost all credibility for me after this cross!! Although I still believe Hannah Reed was responsible for every weapon every round,dummy or other wise on that set and is indeed guilty of negligence. Unfortunately she couldn’t or wouldn’t stand up for herself and the lives of those put in her hands by demanding a clean organized space that NOONE touched but her. As the Armorer she is responsible to make those firearms safe and should have never handed them to anyone except the person who was holstering it. A check then should have been done with that actor if they didn’t want a check then they shouldn’t have received the weapon. Alec Baldwin or an unknown actor no difference. If that secondary check was done there would have been no death. She should have been the only person loading those weapons. As an Armorer she would have known there was a live round if she was paying attention. Alec Baldwin not only as a gun owner but as the writer,director and producer should have demanded the check of that weapon in front of him and only then she should have declared that weapon “safe or cold” Hannah was cocky and over confident I believe bc her father has been a film Armorer for 30 yrs and he trained her (my opinion) there are actors such as Keanu Reeves and Nicholas Cage who have said they do not Allow any cutting of corners when it comes to gun safety on their sets.
The whole set was careless, throwing Hannah as the new person to take the fall. They been doing careless acts way before she was hired, ignored her asking for more training
Yes, the set was a mess yet it doesn’t take culpability away from the defendant, as the soul person given the job for the care,safety and maintenance of those firearms. They charged the right person.
The only training day denied was because it was requested by Hannah to train a minor who would not even be handling a gun in the film.
It was completely unnecessary.
I think her doing coke over-rides those issues lol
Everyone else could be careless. It was only Hannah being careless that mattered. She brought live ammo. If she wasn’t doing drugs then she could focus more on her responsibilities. No live ammo = no death. Hannah’s responsibility = her fault.
This defence guy is just constantly plucking at straws. You did this did you not?
No.
Are you sure?
Yes.
Are you positive?
Yes.
Are you absolutely positively sure?
Yes.
How many times???
The Corporal held herself extremely well. Very confident. I believe she walked all over him!
I think that this detective, being rather new to being head of an investigation, is doing a good job and is well spoken and deliberate under questioning.
What’s bizarre is she’s like the same age as Hannah
What Trial are YOU watching!!???
@@marybryner5562the trial of deez
Jesus this was more breaks than testimony.
She's so laid back she's horizontal, i wouldn't have let her go to the shops for me let alone be an armour, she has no fkn clue what she was doing, she's acting like these guns are hot at all times and ppl fire live bullets all the time, she's a sociopath and i think she hoped to do this and get away with it, the crew threatened to quit as there was 2 misfires before the 1 that killed Halyna and look at her reaction to her 1st interview compared to Baldwins.
This judge appears bias in favor of the prosecutors side.
There are really few cases where the state doesn't really team up.
She has such a strange, entitled demeanor. And she sure likes talking about going to the bathroom a lot.
The lead investigator looks like she took a curling iron to her lips.
I think I am going to overlook the detective’s looks and see how smart she is, as I am still waiting for the defenses cross on her. To come to her defense, if she even had a tiny bit of lip filler put in, as I had had it myself when I was younger, sometimes your lips swell up the first few days after injections then settle down into a nice average volume.
@@gaganorthofthe49th62no, your lips don’t “swell up” like this if you have a good injector who knows what they’re doing. She’s overfilled and had the filler done by a strip mall worker.
1:12:23 She remembers to open up and clean out that one cavity in the Rust gun at the cart just before it was needed, and when she was shaking the bullet again to make sure she could hear the rattle, Dave was at her ear saying hey we need that gun it here, she puts it in the chamber so Dave’s fault, then when she shows Dave the gun in a gun chamber check Halyna and Joel is talking to Dave so it’s also their fault as he says can you just hurry it up. Wow I am stunned by her lack of complete accountability. I wouldn’t be surprised if she isn’t deep down blaming Halyna for unaliving.
I think you're kinda transferring responsibility here. Everybody is. She wanted time to train Alec in the cross draw. You know what training is? That's telling and showing someone how to do something. How to do it, how to make it look right, how to do it safely. What happens if the gun is loaded with blanks and the hammer is resting on a hot chamber and the hammer catches his coat lapel on the way out?? BOOM!!! Some ammos will go off dropping them on the floor. Or sitting on a cart in the sun on a hot day.
O BTW. That cavity is called a chamber. It's in a thing called a cylinder. Six chambers to a cylinder. Shells slide into the chamber when you load the gun. She was loading dummies, which look like a real live bullet for the most parts, except that they don't go boom. Often made out of live ammo that has gone boom and makes the casing a little larger so it doesn't always fit in every chamber. But, just to make sure that was it she cleaned the chamber and probably tried a different dummy round. Or, she's just making this up so she doesn't have to explain the real reason that she left the chamber empty so she wouldn't have to argue with someone that thinks that they know more about guns than she does. What do you think it is?
Isn’t it interesting that the production crew would hire an Armorer for a western film who has zero gun training skills and licensing except for what her father taught her? This was young inexperienced person who wasnt drug tested and allowed to be under the influence during her time employed to provide real guns in a movie. Absolutely a recipe for an involuntary manslaughter!! Its is clear the production crew were all as liable if not more than the Armorer. Like leaving a teenager in charge of a firearm
She was 24 tho. Not a teenager
It was a low budget film, it was only her second job so I’m sure she was cheap. It’s seeming like Alec Baldwin is trying to cut alot of corners.
Defense attorney wants the prosecution to do his work? Pull up a video for him? A long video at that- does HE even know the time stamp? lol
Nor does his client. Armorer department and Properties are extremely specific to the script and rehearsal; often things are categorized, date stamped, photographed if you're on a time crunch and best form of documentation if there are any questions at all, which is a constant on set. Further armory and prop truck are inventoried each night to cover last minute script changes, rehearsals, turning camera around and essential and keep on top of script changes!--If you know how to do the job and run 2 departments. There are clean sentences that get to the heart of the matter not clever innuendo, if properties and armorer dept wanted to handle the brass on set.
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@@Lisa-io6pr the whole thing is a mess. And tbh I like Alec and was trying to be “it’s not his fault” until I saw that video the other day of him shouting at everyone to hurry up and all that. Completely unprofessional especially when there are firearms involved. He added immense pressure to every single person on set. It’s just not necessary. He was 100% part of the problem- even if it hadn’t been him who pulled the trigger.
What time is court today please
Hannah’s behavior is shocking! I’d be an absolute mess! Wtf is wrong with her?!
What's wrong with that? People die on set every minute. According to her. It's like putting stamps on a letter. Happens all day. She's as cool as a cucumber.
@@smurf902 she really is!
You ask “WTF is wrong with her?”
Answer: EVERYTHING
100 percent shocking!!!!
She could have autism and handling serious situations whether it’s sad or exciting. Example she may cry way more at a funeral of someone she doesn’t know and cry very little to none at all at someone she did know very well. The way she is reacting to this is underwhelming. She most likely hasn’t processed fully what’s going on in both interviews. Still fresh. Not saying she’s not guilty of negligence but her reactions should be taken with a grain of salt until we see more.
Why in God's name did Hannah submit a receipt to get reimbursed for an inertia puller? An inertia puller a.k.a. bullet puller is only used to remove bullets/projectiles from the casings of fully assembled rounds. It's typically used by people to reload live ammo or dissemble live ammo for a number of reloading reasons. It does make perfect sense for an Armorer to have one, since it can be used to confirm without a doubt that a dummy round has no gun powder in it, or has BB's, or check to see if the primer is inert, etc. But she never mentions doing any of these types of procedures. IMO She doesn't seem to have the expertise to even know what an inertia puller is. I shudder to think of the alternate explanation for her possessing that tool.
Could just be getting freebies on expenses to make the most of the situation.
She didn't, she said under the circumstances it wasn't appropriate
Hannah is guilty and also when Mrs Pickle walked out of the courtroom Hannah gave her an evil look!
AGREED. So guilty.
Exactly. A woman died here it's serious, you bet she's going for it to get justice.
She handed the gun to Dave. Dave handed it to Alec. They haven't even proved that was the gun that fired the shot. No powder tests. No fingerprints. FBI said Hannah's DNA didn't show up on the handle. What's the difference between a Baldwin gun, and evidence gun, and an exemplar? This is not question for kindergartners or first graders. Mrs. Pickle is a time planner/scheduler/keeper that isn't even on a set. Not sure how she time studies these things. Going by how long it takes to hunt ghosts, I suppose. 10 years of ghost busting with a couple of 9mm's doesn't really qualify anyone for anything.
Shocking how blasé she is about all of this.
I can’t stand this prosecutor! 🙉
How many lies has Hannah been caught in-Many!
Oh no……the judge has lost her sticky notes🤣🤦♀️
Jeezus what's with this investigator's lip injections? It's ridiculous.
Maybe they’re natural. Before lip fillers there were people with big lips. And who cares anyway? We aren’t talking about the defense, attorneys waxed giant dome
breaks interrupted by a trial
Wow, this prosecutor is massively rude and unprofessional. The detective is clearly practiced and was also rude. Both are unlikable. Wondering if the jurors feel the same way!
I hope so.…
So are they still having technical issues????
Lead investigator - 'There's circumstancial evidence the live is from Hannah's so forget checking anyone else, and don't even bother speaking with the guy whose initials are on the box.'
This defense attorney is excellent
I think you are confused
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Hannah in first interview was hungover , on cocaine hence tampering charge , in second video you can clearly see she’s cleaned up off the drugs . She gave a 11 year old actress a unsafe gun , she misfired on Nicolas cage set . She doesn’t even have 1 license for anything she doesn’t even have a permit to carry . She was negligent and neglectful.
I think the prosecuting attorney is going to win this case.
wow the way hannah look at the girl at the stand says guilty
Her defense attorney's strategy is to intimidate and confuse every witness. He thinks if they all sound tripped up it'll create doubt. Might work.
and the reflection off his head is mesmerising!.
All I can say is you gotta be sleeping or in drugs not to see the inconsistencies in the prosecution witness testimony. They haven't proved anything in this trial except that the FBI screwed up a perfectly good Pietta .45LC by shock testing it. It's probably failure analysis. How hard do you have to drop a Pietta .45LC with the hammer cocked to get it to discharge? Turns out it's pretty hard.
I must say, though, for that shock testing to be fair and accurate they should have done it with one of those live rounds from the box, not off the shelf FBI standard rounds. Those are probably Federal and not what was in the gun at the time of discharge.
Correct. His only defence is to trying to make every witness look bad by discrediting everything they’ve said. Nothing he can say will change the fact that Hannah loaded the live round into the revolver and then
failed to notice, regardless of where it came from. Gross negligence. That is beyond reasonable doubt.
Alec is CHEAP!!
The only way a dummy bullet can be "bad" is if it's a live round!
The Corporal's smugness and coincidental lack of memory for every question she does not want to answer on cross is so irritating. Along with the abrasive, sarcastic demeanor of the DA during cross is very off-putting to me. I do believe HGR's lack of organization and apathetic attitude towards her armorer duties lays some culpability at her feet. BUT I cannot stop thinking that after HGR handed the gun off inside the church and left - anyone that touched the gun could have loaded a live round into the cylinder. I'm not saying it's probable, just saying it is possible.
Finally some fireworks
She went to the bathroom to get a cokeacola from the pop machine.
What a power house this women is thats on the stand. mr clean could not crack her
What's wrong with her lips? 👄
To many lip injections
About $10k of fillers
Stung by a bee?
@@JojoCano-ix9cu lmao like amber heards dog 😂
So, does anyone know where that cabin was on set where the Henry .44-40 went off?
This Prosecution attorney has the most nastiness off putting attitude I’ve ever seen! There is no need for her to be so rude and hateful. It’s off putting to everyone in the court room!
Frightening 2nd interview with GR,no actual records just” I THINK and yeah…” WHERE ARE THE PRINT OUTS OF EACH USE?!!!” The bullets were in her bag… along with her lip gloss
i dunno how hannah and her handler can sit and smile
Her bangs completely covering one eye is so high school. Not professional at all.
I think she might be intentionally hiding the one eye. It seems one is a little lazy or something
The Prosecutor has a nasty attitude, even to the Judge..very rude.
I cannot stand her. I don't like Hannah Gutierrez very much but I am rooting for her defence lawyer/
@@ER-ec4uq What a bizarre way to dole out justice.
The female prosecutor is definitely very rude and condescending at times... and it's crazy that it's happening to her own witnesses.
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She's immature for LOTS of jobs out there, let alone being responsible for weaponry in a filming set. The way of talking (lots of cursing), the age, her baby-like reaction when confronted by the first officer...
She must be held accountable, but so does whoever hired her as well. It was crystal clear she was not fit for the job, regardless who was her father and all.
Why did Alec Baldwin hire this young girl to do this job??? Could he get what he wanted for less money & control conflict ?
Probably her father asked him to do so.
Baldwin is cheap....
Baldwin did not hire her or anyone his producer title was creative fluff his role as producer did not involve such things as crew hire location etc he helped on the script and would get back kick money from profits as a “producer” both the director and jenson ackles have tried to explain this yet everyone keeps saying Baldwin hired her or cut costs. Nope the department heads hired their own people keeping within their allocated budgets given out via the actual REAL producers who are in charge of money etc so Baldwin can’t actually b touched as a producer as he wasn’t a “real” producer and as an actor well he was told the gun was cold as in even if he pulled the trigger 100x it would not go off as safe so he was lead to believe all was safe and was instructed by halayna herself to take the gun out and position it in such a way that they can c the dummies in the barrel and get the specific shot they want I believe even in one clip you hear a male voice tell him to take the gun out and point to which Baldwin confirms you want me to whip it out …. Yes…. Ok and point it at which side of the camera left or right camera B?……males voice “yes” soooo he was told gun was safe had no reason to lie about pulling trigger cause that still would not have put him at fault as told gun was cold and only pointed in at camera side as A. He was led to believe cold gun no harm can come from it and B he was instructed to do so. Tbh I don’t see how they are going to get a jury to find him guilty.
During police interview…. The attorney is leading
I can’t believe that her lawyer just let her keep yapping and yapping in her interrogation
Are we done for the day???
I think she is responsible for the death, but I feel sorry for her. Who hires a young, inexperienced person to do such a complicated job involving firearms? I feel like they wanted to save money and hired the least expensive person they could get by with. They wanted to fulfill the need for an armorer with someone they could push around. Baldwin wanted to play cowboy, and didn't want anyone to tell him what to do. That is the impression I'm getting.
100% was a budget issue, she was not ready. It does put her in a hard spot to have to stand up to someone like Alec Baldwin, but if she doesn’t have the leadership to do so, she shouldn’t take the job.
This prosecutor and judge are making me not like them. And I think she needs to be held accountable but man the states behavior is making me feel bad for Hannah! Don’t screw this one up prosecutor!
Watching it late… I like this prosecutor, she seems to know her stuff. I was definitely not thrilled with the way she was laughing today. The defense lawyer seems so genuine to me, so far and that seemed so unnecessary. Just gave me an ‘ick’ feeling about the whole scene.
The Prosecution isn’t doing herself any favors by being so snide & laughing. She’s an embarrassment to the legal system. So far the lack of professionalism during this entire ‘investigation’ has been horrible. The State has dropped the ball and in doing so it has become nothing more than a witch hunt.
THE STATE IS NOT YOUR FRIEND--innocent or not
Defendant ,,,,, must have been told to try to present herself as a normal individual.,. Wonder if she still has the same tendencies to curse every 3 words ? Blames everyone on set ,,, but none of it was on her ?
Sarah, Sarah and Sarah
Could anyone figure out what Hannah said when Gabrielle left the courtroom, at the very end of the video? If looks could kill!
"Maybe not checking them (the bullets) because I'm not putting them in things". Hannah admitted she didn't do her job.
The fact that the defense is trying to blame someone from days before the homicide, off the set, for what Reid did and didn't do ON the set, is pathetic. Can you spell REACHING?
The glasses up and down all the time are distracting.....
She knows one person is dead and another injured , she totally lacks empathy. She is a totally immature 24 year old.
The way the defense team is questioning lady detective feels like an episode from Better Call Saul.