00:00 DAY 3: NM v Hannah Gutierrez 09:24 Kelly Krapf: 3 Biggest Moments 21:50 Actor John Schneider Joins Show Catch up on the FACTS here: www.courttv.com/tag/hannah-gutierrez-reed/?
Why did you hire Kelly KRAP ?, who sounds like an adult film star with all her heavy breathing and sharp intakes of breath ? And her all around, eye-batting, breathless, ridiculous personality ? What a joke.
Were you aware that John Schneider was on air this week saying racist political statements. Ridiculous that you are having him on your show. I won’t watch. Please don’t have him back. There are many who were and would be offended by the sight of him.
Day 2 is missing because the Judge scolded you for conduct that was unlawful. Did you apologize yet to the courts and the Jury for this? Gauging this why you removed the airing of day 2, but hard to point fingers without being accountable and was wrong to do as the Jury is paid by tax payers and lawful conduct must be abided by. Owning errors or not is a reflection upon your company in the law industry and it’s not a good look from here.
@@nadagabri5783. Yes it’s murder. I just heard something today that blew me away. Nicolas Cage got Hannah fired or tried to (not sure which) from a film, and she also gave her motorcycle keys to a boyfriend who was extremely drunk. He died in a wreck on the motorcycle. Seems like Hannah could be a sociopath who sets things up to go wrong.
@@angelwings7930 I feel ALEX B is the murderer & HG is also responsible for the death, (many sympathize with him (AB), I guess because he was a movie star yet he hired her and he pulled the trigger etc etc etc (I knew about the Nic Cage incident not about the bf, motorcycle and his death)
I was a background actor on a recent Western filmed at Bonanza Ranch. Seconds after a scene was shot, the armorer came and snatched back the fake knife I used in my costume. I only had it for about a minute before shooting, and a minute after. It was impressive.
if the movie shot was only about drawing the gun out of his shirt, why did they need to put in bullets (real or fake) into the gun in the first place!!??
cos you can see that a revolver is empty, thats why they have fake bullets inthere. Theres three types; fakes, blanks and real. It shouldve been fakes here.
It's just baffling to me that in this day n age, that real guns are being used in the first place. Is it honestly just cheaper to use an actual weapon instead of a prop? Coz that's insane if you think about it. It's just so absolutely unnecessary, all of it
When I was 12, my father taught me about guns. He said, “I don’t care who might pass a gun to you - never trust that gun until you have checked it for yourself that it is unloaded.”
Yeah checking the chamber (or cylinder in this case) is basic stuff, they should have all known they were using real guns and should have been checking them every time they get handed one. Its crazy these so called "professionals" cant practice basic gun safety.
Yes. You don't get more with less. You get less with less. Why was HGR a part-time armouror? This is a series of negligent decisions, and although HGR is definitely culpable, I think she is just one of many who share responsibilities.
@@jasonchambers1679I absolutely agree. It’s easy to point the finger at her, but so far, production looks to be at fault. They intentionally hired an inexperienced girl so they could check off a box, then pushed her around until she was doing multiple jobs for the same pay, and didn’t allow her to really do the job she was hired to do. I don’t feel it’s fair to place all of the blame on her.
@@maybememory1 I'm with you. Although I'd like to know more about what she was doing with that gun, who had access to it, when and how it was checked. I still don't understand why there we so many live rounds on that set. I think somebody could have intentionally put the live rounds in the gun.
@@maybememory1 Even the alleged drug consumption is consistent with someone who is working long hours and overtaxed. Cocaine + Weed and Alcohol, uppers and downers.
It’s telling that no one would say anything to Alec Baldwin. It’s also telling that 6 people walked off the set claiming it was not safe, yet production went forward with no changes. There must be some reason that it wasn’t checked out, for example some financial deadline? As he said, it’s never an accident when a gun goes off. It’s a negligent accident.
They intentionally hired an inexperienced armorer to save money, basically just because they were required to have one, then had her doing multiple jobs for the same pay, and didn’t allow her to do the job she was hired to do. Yes, clearly she has responsibility in this, but so far I’m seeing reasonable doubt.
Alec was a producer and the one with the most social power or respect. If he had said "hey let's stop and recheck this, something is wrong", other people would have listened and agreed just because of his fame and power on set. Unless he secretly wasn't respected by the people. It's a sad story but it's completely intriguing and a mystery that I've never seen any other case like it. I think a lot is going to come out and it could destroy Alec Baldwin's life. Even if he is found innocent based on the info in the case it could still completely destroy his career.
@@maybememory1She could have collected the firearms and walked off if she had concerns. The fact that she didn't shows she didn't care enough about the safety of others, maybe because she's the cause for most of the issues to begin with.
baldwin trying to get out of being responsible is sickening. HE HAS RESPONSIBLITY IN THE TRAGEDY! the entire set was slothful, unthorough, & slipshod operation. AFTER neglect misfiring's wow
Hannah said her daddy is one of the best in the world about Guns and taught her well. 🤔 Hannah is on body cam saying she fkd up.. and that was the truth she did. She was negligent. Period ..
@frelnc "Gross negligence is a lack of care that demonstrates reckless disregard for the safety or lives of others, which is so great it appears to be a conscious violation of other people's rights to safety." An actor was handed a prop he told was clear by the person responsible for the props, and started practicing his lines. Sorry, but words have meaning.
Low Budget was not really the issue, it was THE CREW !!! If I saw Gutierrez walk in to manage "guns", I would have walk off, just like the crew whom did... That save their life.
@@chriswong9158 Hannah is cooked. Very surprised she did not take the deal. OTOH, I can see why Alec wants to fight. He relied on people to do their jobs so he expected the tool to be safe. His failure to hire competent people and then his failure to supervise them after two on set accidental discharges are going to be a big problem.
The only thing I can think of is that he misspoke and that he meant to say that the armorer is not the only one responsible, since he just said that each of the 3 people failed in their duty to check it.
The armorer didn't aim then fire an unchecked gun at the cinematographer, at close range. Only Alec performed those actions. Only Alec decided to break every gun rule and ignore film set protocols for gun handling. The armorer wasn't even allowed in the church to perform her job. Blame Dave Halls for his part because he ordered dummy rounds that were not required for the rehearsal. Hannah turned the barrel to show Dave the rounds then he claims not to have paid attention. Then Dave, not knowing whether the rounds were safe, called out "cold gun." Dave, taking over armorer duty neglected to demonstrate the rounds for Baldwin. Alec should have insisted on the inspection. Everyone is assuming the armorer is guilty because she is a scatterbrain but two people handled the gun after her who also had opportunity to insert a live round. In the end though, only Alec decided to fire a gun at Halyna.
@@mondobear22She pretty clearly didn't do her job, that assigns at least a portion of responsibility to her. There was a chain of failures and it appears to have begun with her.
"They talk as if she was bad at her job" She was bad at her job. The production didn't care enough, they are at fault too, but she is definitely guilty of negligence. Also, she was the boss of her department, so she supervised herself.
I read an article about the armorer. She was a newbie to the trade. Vinny's question is well put. Who in Hell was responsible for the guns AND AMMO on the set? There should NEVER have been any live rounds anywhere near that set. And apparently someone on set was playing - PLAYING - with a gun loaded with live rounds. Crazy.
She mentioned her dad was also in the profession though? I wonder if she got the job through nepotism? She just mentioned her dad and they were like oh sweet we can pay her dirt cheap but she’s got experience. Allegedly they purchased dummies from a disorganized shop…I feel like production took advantage of her, but also she bragged about being around guns her whole life. You can’t say that and then claim ignorance when you miss live rounds mixed in with dummies, and fail to check them while you’re loading the gun.
Hannah is sitting in the courtroom like she's in 5th period social studies. Completely disengaged.That will not go over well with the jury. It makes her look remorseless & entitled.
I have worked on various TV sets, not as an armorer, but as a production assistant, including on the set of the very popular police TV show Chicago PD, where the entire cast uses real, and various weapons non-stop, from various types of pistols to machine guns, and from my experience I can say that It's best when everyone on a film set has to check their guns, both armorers and actors. For extra security, just to be sure. The best-case scenario is also to hire actors who know how to handle weapons in real life. And I must say that the cast of Chicago PD is a shining example here. The Chicago PD cast is highly trained in weapons and some of the guys there know weapons incredibly well, almost as well as professional armorers and police officers. For example, actor Jesse Lee Soffer, who plays an Afghanistan veteran and cop on the show, Jay Halstead, is an accomplished& excellent shooter in real life, knows his way around almost every gun and ammunition, and is generally very athletic, and one of the real-life veteran cops from Chicago, Brian Luce, who is the expert and producer on the show, told me that Jesse is the only one out of the cast who could be a great cop in real life. So, it's best to have well-trained actors in movies and TV series that require using a lot of firearms, then there's nothing to worry about. And such actors exist, and still, they are later additionally trained, just like on the set of Chicago PD. The only difference is that since it's a police procedural/cop show, there were real police officers and weapons experts from Chicago working there as experts and armorers, so the training was top-notch. Rust definitely had a very chaotic, unprofessional production department and an unprofessional, irresponsible armorer. Such a tragedy would certainly not have happened if the best, most experienced weapons experts had worked on this set.
Baldwin heard multiple misfires the day before, he knew the situation with the guns in set was VERY out of control. Knowing that, he pointed a loaded gun at a woman and pulled the hammer back (and possibly pulled the trigger). He knew the situation with the guns was insanely bad and he still did that.
There were two accidental discharges within an hour of each other, many complaints from the crew about the lack of safety, the 6 crew that walked off....even Hannah, who should face consequences, told her superiors that if she has to do two jobs, one in props and one as the armorer, said that her attention diverted from her armorer duties will end up with her making mistakes and look what happened? The management was willfully ignorant including Baldwin.
Yeah but those were negligent discharges with blanks. His gun was supposedly loaded with dummy rounds. Apples and oranges. In my opinion, he could not foresee what happened. With Hannah it was a different story. Without her negligence that accident would have never happened.
Right! He should not have. He shouldn’t have pointed it at anybody. Even people who don’t know how to handle guns or who aren’t in the industry knows better than that.
Young people on drugs goofing around and target shooting cans. Amo got mixed up & Hannah carelessly put real bullets in the prop gun. She is totally to blame
Filming movies is mostly just waiting time for the crew, until the actors and set is ready. I’m thinking they just spent that time playing with the guns and shooting at things on the set to kill the time.Someone just left the life rounds in, in a rush… It’s not an accident it’s negligence
The man who gave antique guns to shoot was very clear no live rounds were to be fired from that antique 6 shooter and the crew did use it with live rounds in impromptu target practice so already they were not being safe that's why live rounds were around. No one checked all six cylinders were blanks. The live rounds have a silver center.
I agreed with Fojbe, that the gun was probably used earlier for Plinking and Alec had no clue that the rounds in the gun were real , maybe even Alec was plinking with the gun earlier, but looking at this nut so-called armorer I bet she was the cause of the row of dominoes to all fall. I would not trust her to check the oil in my lawn mower.
Hannah AND ALEC were responsible. He was the executive producer. He was in charge of safety of the production along with a myriad of other things. He cut safety meetings, he had an entire camera crew walk off set and quit the day before the death. He was notified by Lane Looper, and he told Lane to kick rocks, he didnt need him and he didnt care about why they were leaving. He reached out to EXPERIENCED ARMOROURS VERY SHORTLY before production instead of doing it earlier, they ALL told him NO WAY because of the amount of guns he wanted and it being such a short period of time, not to mention he didnt want safety meetings for them, found Hannah, TOTALLY INEXPERIENCED, and the EXTREMELY EXPERIENCED ARMOROURS SAID NO because it wasnt safe, so he goes around them and hires this inexperienced drug addict, Hannah, to do TWO JOBS when even doing the ONE JOB for experienced armorours was too much, held an inpromtu run through without the armorour present and even though the ENTIRE CAMERA CREW QUIT THE DAY BEFORE OVER SAFETY ISSUES REGARDING THE GUNS AND POSSIBLE LIVE AMMO, the man STILL takes a gun THROWN TO HIM by Dave Halls, doesnt fkin check it AT ALL, just assumes Halls knows wtf he's talking about, takes the gun, AIMS IT, AND PULLS THE TRIGGER ALMOST KILLING 3 PEOPLE (a cameraman, Joel Souza, Halyna) and DOES KILL Halyna. 16 SAFETY VIOLATIONS that if he had followed JUST ONE OF THE SAFETY PROTOCOLS SHE'D BE ALIVE PEOPLE!!! THEN gets on TV and LIES about pulling the trigger which we now know he's a fkin liar. They have FOOTAGE of him with his finger on the trigger moments before he kills her. IF ANYONE SAYS HE IS INNOCENT, YOU MUST BE ON CRACK.
The lack of professionalism of this girl is absolutely unbelievable… one would think one would represent themselves in such a manner with having such a high responsibility and especially with just starting out with a career in a business that so many would love to have the opportunity she was given. I would also think she would want to make her Father proud and represent herself with the same standards of his career.
Hello John, thank you for your view of things. You are so experienced in this business and are a good judge of the situation. Sending you love from Germany and hope your heart can heal.🌹🕊
Someone probably contaminated the ammo supply just to stop this project... Anyway this story is more interesting than the movie would have been, showing us how ridiculous the film industry is
It's conspiratorial but I also wondered if someone handled gun during lunch and put live round in as sabotage. First AD didn't check weapon. 3 people never checked the Colt single action revolver missed the life round. But we now know live rounds were on a movie set with real guns and there never should have been live rounds on set - period.
Alec Baldwin is an actor! Not an armorer. The armorer is the armorer. Why hire an armorer, when everyone is expected to do an armorers job? Is the armorer expected to act in the show? Everyone has their jobs. The armorer is guilty 100%. The rest of the crew IS NOT culpable for the mistakes, oversights, ineptitude of the armorer.
@@loadedhot1034 That's 100% a lie! A production company hired her! "On Oct. 14, the film’s line producer, Gabrielle Pickle, scolded Gutierrez Reed in an email reviewed by the Los Angeles Times, saying the production office had received complaints that two shotguns had been left unattended on the set. Pickle also took Gutierrez Reed to task for allegedly not doing enough to support the film’s prop master, Sarah Zachry. “We hired you as both Armor and Key Assistant Props,” Pickle wrote in the Oct. 14 email, according to a copy shared with The Times.
Loaded guns do not kill people. Aiming it at a person, cocking the hammer and pulling the trigger DOES. Hannah is an absolutely terrible armorer, not a killer.
Drug use in Hollywood is by nature negligence waiting to happen... "studies have found that regular cocaine users demonstrate poor memory, lack of concentration and have attention deficits." and "difficult to understand the mental perspective of others, demonstrated less emotional empathy, found it hard to detect emotions from the voices of others etc". Social concern and sense of acute responsibility would likely be affected by cocaine use.
When the dust settles the insurance company of Rust will be out a lot of money. Alec can appeal any trial outcome for years. He is determined to finish this film for distribution.
Watching this trial makes me think of a movie such as Saving Private Ryan where bullets and armor is a plenty and yet, zero incidents. Money talks in Hollywood
@@cathnathaniel1549 I have no clue anything is possible. why would they make such a mistake! maybe the target was to destroy Alec Baldwin's life 🤔 it's a strange case to me🧐
Quite a few people are guilty of negligence, Gutierrez, Baldwin and David Halls. Gutierrez for the obvious reason for loading a live round, Baldwin and Hall for ignoring the safety issues. Less so for Baldwin pulling the trigger if the armourer told him it was a blank.
Also a point nobody has made, Alec Baldwins father was a gun instructor while Alec and his brothers were growing up. If any actor knows guns, it’s him. Zero excuse for not checking that weapon or aiming it towards a person.
Incredibly sad when someone goes to work and does not come home. Accidents don't just happen. Firearm safety is not the only violation of basic work place safety going on here. The managers in charge clearly did not care about the safety of their employees or take their crews safety seriously. People quit due to safety concerns yet nothing was done.
When referring to the previous events of firearms going off unintentionally, "negligent discharge" is different than an "accidental discharge". They're not interchangable terms, Law and Crime. These are negligent discharges.
I'm third of hearing about the poor kid 24 year old, who had som much put on her shoulders. We send young men and women into combat, who are less than 21 years old. We have police officers in perilous situations at a far younger age. Health care workers, who are less than 21 years old. And we're supposed to feel sorry for 24 year old armorer?
It seems like this entire movie set was filled with a Wild West party mentality! No one forced Alec to pull the gun directly at the camera crew. I think he thought he was being funny.
As Alec was practicing his cross draw the gun went off and the two camera crew were in alignment with the camera just behind it. The one bullet fired went straight through first person into second. Alec claimed he didn't pull the trigger but the FBI ballistics tester said the gun had to be cocked and trigger pulled to shoot weapon. No other way was possible to make gun go off by accident except if gun hammer was broken. Tragic. The family of the woman killed have a video of a computer simulation of the scene as it went off - you can watch it to see what he was doing, how close they were what happened. Alec was insistent that guns be real on set not rubber props. It never should have happened. But several people making mistakes led to this event happening - not just one.
I was an AD. Safety was ignored. Protocol was ignored. All involved were grossly negligent, the armorer particular. Most importantly, there should never have been live rounds on site. Not on set. Not on the truck. Not on anyone’s possession. PERIOD.
It’s suggested that she was high on drugs during the filming. The defense attorneys were fighting to keep her drug use out of court but it was in her text messages.
@@WagTheDog_813 Even Kari Morrissey said it wouldn't have made a difference. Hannah assumed those were all dummy rounds so if she rechecked the gun she wouldn't have identified the live round. The big problem was that she was using all different types of dummy rounds. Some with holes, some without that look almost exactly like live rounds. She wasn't very organized.
@@lpr5269 when she’s first being interviewed at the police station and she empties her pockets it is such a hot mess. All this unorganized ammunition comes tumbling out on the table. As someone who has ADD it kind of looked like we have something in common.
Money. They offered it to a veteran armorer but they didn't want to pay that much. He was told he would have to be a prop person, too and he refused thinking it would be too dangerous.
Hannah was unprofessional and reckless. The was exactly the same on the set of "The Old Way" in Montana and she should have been fired then. She got a second chance and blew it. Literally. I've been at both sets and left. Yes- this is normal behavior for a low budget western, but this led to a death. I hope they learn, but I am doubtful.
That box being on set is very telling. I think she assumed her Dad, who taught her, would “never” mix things up. The rest is lazy egos. All should be charged.
Alec Baldwin said that he would never point a gun at someone and pull the trigger. So he knows how dangerous it is to do that, yet he did it. Even if you believe he didn't pull the trigger, he aimed a gun and pulled the hammer all the way back, then let it go. Incredibly dangerous to do that. He was negligent.
Someone in charge didn't call a meeting on safety because half the crew had walked off set due to safety concerns and there was stress due to COVID protocols to get scene in the can. Dave Hall only saw three depressed primer dummy rounds in chamber not all 6. If he had seen all six he would have noticed. So several people had to have made mistakes for this to happen.
I think the Armorer Hannah was intimidated by Baldwin and probably didn’t want to stand up to him but besides that… she still didn’t take her job seriously… And remember…. 99.9999% of the time it’s a “Negligent Discharge”… not and accidental discharge. It’s negligent because someone had their finger on the trigger 99.9999% of the time when they should not have.
Dr. Jasson Piccolo just nailed it saying when single action revolver hammer is fully cocked, only pressure on the trigger is required to fire. I believe the difference between the double action revolver and the single action revolver is important in this case. The position of the trigger in a double action is center of trigger guard and requires about 3/4 inch pull to fire. With single action revolver the trigger is fixed or tight near rear of the trigger guard and requires only slight pressure to fire. Recently I saw a video of Baldwin rehearsing a scene where he repeatedly fires a double action revolver dramatically pulling the trigger rapidly firing multiple shots. In the fatality he is using a single action revolver and states as he did the cross draw he cocked the gun. I believe this shows neglect and why Baldwin thinks he didn't pull the trigger.
According to an interview with the prop master one of the unintentional discharges was a stunt man handling the gun which had blanks in it. The second was done by the prop master (person being interviewed) when she was trying to un-cock a gun loaded with blanks. None of those were live rounds. Note that the term ''misfire'' is being used totally wrong in this case. A misfire is when you pull the trigger and expect something to happen and it doesn't. Note that the prop master said that she has never fired a real gun with a real bullet. So she has very little experience with guns yet she was handling the guns.
No he didn’t she brought live rounds on the set from her home because she got them mixed up with the dummy’s that has already been proven. She was careless as hell and it proves it. Everyone said she was careless. And Why would he knowingly fire live rounds on set on purpose? So that he will go to jail and have to go through all this court stuff? And his life would practically be over? Absolutely not. The woman in charge of the armory is 100% at fault because she is the one that “accidentally” brought the live rounds on set from her home. If anyone Knowingly brought live rounds on set is her and only her. She is the one that had the job of taking care of the guns and dummy rounds she is the one that was careless she is the one that handed him the gun with live rounds in it whether she m Knew it or not to be live rounds she is the one that failed miserably . I’m not a fan of Alec but right is right and wrong is wrong.
I propose that from this point forward all actors are properly trained on how to handle firearms since PROFESSIONAL EXPERTS are unable to keep sets safe. Actors will need to be trained to understand that there is no cold gun and every time they fire a weapon on set they need to be the ones to make sure the rounds are dummy rounds and not rely on armorers that clearly are unable to do that simple job.
@@jefferyk.spellerberg176 the actor will have to be trained to make sure that those are still dummy rounds. Otherwise the risk to the actor of being charged by Law Enforcement is too high. I don't disagree with you regarding who is really at fault here but apparently Law Enforcement and many people commenting on these videos feel that Baldwin should be charged for murder.
It is a bit ridiculous, there was no higher safety standards in place. I mean, even as a nurse, we need 2 signatures to take out narcotics (that are locked up.) We have many safety protocols for high risk medications. Why do they not require that for a movie production? Two armors should be double checking everything. Hollywood can afford it!
she’s unprofessional. doesn’t mean everyone in her field is. the irony of your post is your job description was exactly hers. all things gun/weapon safety were her job. she should of pulled alec aside and informed him of gun safety. 😂
I'm sorry but who tf hired a TWENTY FOUR YEAR OLD amorer? She barely had 3 years of legal experience, so how did she even get the job? 😅 it's not funny but it is kind of comical, you would have thought it would be a professional who's been in the business for at least 20 years to handle weapons on set
after the first negligent discharge production should have been shut down. then a second one. yikes safety. rules of firearms assume all are loaded. don t point any firearm at someone.
I bought a .44 Magnum revolver and picked it up from the FFL dealer. On the way home I looked at it and realized how incredibly lethal that gun was. It left me with a lot of responsibility and consternation owning or possibly using that someday against another human.
Schneider has chimed in on this many times about standard well known gun safety was just not followed. The three principle rules: never point a gun at a person, always assume a gun is loaded, always check if a gun is loaded after being handed one. Never assume a gun is not loaded with a live round if it in your hand you always check. The live rounds in a six shooter had silver centers. That poor woman who was shot and killed and her family and the other man was shot and injured. The movie is intending to be finished and released due to contractual obligations.
The titanic levels of sheer incompetence in this tragic (but EASILY avoidable) situation, just boggles the mind. There are no excuses for it. None. The lies told by Alec Baldwin are childish and utterly unbelievable by ANYONE with even the most basic knowledge of how revolvers work. He DID pull the trigger. PERIOD. EVERY video of him pulling the pistol from the holster, clearly shows his finger on the trigger. He's just an idiot actor, not a real firearms user. One would expect him to be ignorant of proper pistol usage. The armorer is a pathetic excuse for an "expert" in firearms. She was a politically correct, CHEAP hire. She knew just enough to be horribly dangerous. Allowing live rounds anywhere NEAR a movie set is absolutely unheard of. Negligent homicide is actually too mild a charge, but the most they can do. It wasn't murder, in the strictest sense of the word, but it's pretty close. Doing things on purpose that caused a fatality, is SO close to murder as it can be and not be. Somehow, some way, Baldwin will get away with it, with only a slap on the wrist because he's famous and that's just wrong.
00:00 DAY 3: NM v Hannah Gutierrez
09:24 Kelly Krapf: 3 Biggest Moments
21:50 Actor John Schneider Joins Show
Catch up on the FACTS here:
www.courttv.com/tag/hannah-gutierrez-reed/?
Why did you hire Kelly KRAP ?, who sounds like an adult film star with all her heavy breathing and sharp intakes of breath ? And her all around, eye-batting, breathless, ridiculous personality ? What a joke.
Were you aware that John Schneider was on air this week saying racist political statements. Ridiculous that you are having him on your show. I won’t watch. Please don’t have him back. There are many who were and would be offended by the sight of him.
Day 2 is missing because the Judge scolded you for conduct that was unlawful. Did you apologize yet to the courts and the Jury for this? Gauging this why you removed the airing of day 2, but hard to point fingers without being accountable and was wrong to do as the Jury is paid by tax payers and lawful conduct must be abided by. Owning errors or not is a reflection upon your company in the law industry and it’s not a good look from here.
Not accidental. NEGLIGENT.
Murder
@@nadagabri5783. Yes it’s murder. I just heard something today that blew me away. Nicolas Cage got Hannah fired or tried to (not sure which) from a film, and she also gave her motorcycle keys to a boyfriend who was extremely drunk. He died in a wreck on the motorcycle. Seems like Hannah could be a sociopath who sets things up to go wrong.
@@angelwings7930 I feel ALEX B is the murderer & HG is also responsible for the death, (many sympathize with him (AB), I guess because he was a movie star yet he hired her and he pulled the trigger etc etc etc (I knew about the Nic Cage incident not about the bf, motorcycle and his death)
Or intentional😏
@@chrisstevens-xq2vb👎
I was a background actor on a recent Western filmed at Bonanza Ranch. Seconds after a scene was shot, the armorer came and snatched back the fake knife I used in my costume. I only had it for about a minute before shooting, and a minute after. It was impressive.
if the movie shot was only about drawing the gun out of his shirt, why did they need to put in bullets (real or fake) into the gun in the first place!!??
cos you can see that a revolver is empty, thats why they have fake bullets inthere. Theres three types; fakes, blanks and real. It shouldve been fakes here.
It's just baffling to me that in this day n age, that real guns are being used in the first place.
Is it honestly just cheaper to use an actual weapon instead of a prop?
Coz that's insane if you think about it.
It's just so absolutely unnecessary, all of it
@@nevadatan7323 3D printing anyone??
Ridiculous that they couldn't afford a really good replica (with millions of dollars budget) in order to make everyone safe?
@@nevadatan7323live ammo on a movie set just blows my mind
When I was 12, my father taught me about guns. He said, “I don’t care who might pass a gun to you - never trust that gun until you have checked it for yourself that it is unloaded.”
Yeah checking the chamber (or cylinder in this case) is basic stuff, they should have all known they were using real guns and should have been checking them every time they get handed one. Its crazy these so called "professionals" cant practice basic gun safety.
My father did the same.
Baldwin and his fake crying is suss asf.
Ah, so we're just going to ignore that it was literally her job to prevent this from happening.
Ok.
.. did you ever check your food to check if it was poisoned, or did you trust your dad to look after things like that?
If you keep cutting costs, things that don't usually go wrong, will go wrong.
Yes. You don't get more with less. You get less with less.
Why was HGR a part-time armouror?
This is a series of negligent decisions, and although HGR is definitely culpable, I think she is just one of many who share responsibilities.
@@jasonchambers1679I absolutely agree. It’s easy to point the finger at her, but so far, production looks to be at fault. They intentionally hired an inexperienced girl so they could check off a box, then pushed her around until she was doing multiple jobs for the same pay, and didn’t allow her to really do the job she was hired to do. I don’t feel it’s fair to place all of the blame on her.
@@maybememory1 I'm with you. Although I'd like to know more about what she was doing with that gun, who had access to it, when and how it was checked. I still don't understand why there we so many live rounds on that set. I think somebody could have intentionally put the live rounds in the gun.
@@maybememory1 Even the alleged drug consumption is consistent with someone who is working long hours and overtaxed. Cocaine + Weed and Alcohol, uppers and downers.
It’s telling that no one would say anything to Alec Baldwin. It’s also telling that 6 people walked off the set claiming it was not safe, yet production went forward with no changes. There must be some reason that it wasn’t checked out, for example some financial deadline? As he said, it’s never an accident when a gun goes off. It’s a negligent accident.
They intentionally hired an inexperienced armorer to save money, basically just because they were required to have one, then had her doing multiple jobs for the same pay, and didn’t allow her to do the job she was hired to do. Yes, clearly she has responsibility in this, but so far I’m seeing reasonable doubt.
@@maybememory1excellent points
Alec was a producer and the one with the most social power or respect. If he had said "hey let's stop and recheck this, something is wrong", other people would have listened and agreed just because of his fame and power on set. Unless he secretly wasn't respected by the people. It's a sad story but it's completely intriguing and a mystery that I've never seen any other case like it. I think a lot is going to come out and it could destroy Alec Baldwin's life. Even if he is found innocent based on the info in the case it could still completely destroy his career.
@@maybememory1She could have collected the firearms and walked off if she had concerns. The fact that she didn't shows she didn't care enough about the safety of others, maybe because she's the cause for most of the issues to begin with.
Could be premeditated murder for all we know. Baldwin’s fake crying looks bad.
who brings live ammo to a movie set
Same person who brings cocaine on a movie set - haha. I guess they all do that!
That girlie did
Same girl whose father has a box of dummies at home with live rounds in it.
Why have real guns at all they make dummy guns of every gun in existence
Uuhm...Alec Baldwin?
baldwin trying to get out of being responsible is sickening. HE HAS RESPONSIBLITY IN THE TRAGEDY! the entire set was slothful, unthorough, & slipshod operation. AFTER neglect misfiring's wow
And he cheaped out by hiring a part-time armorer/prop girl.
Yep, say it louder!!
a duty of care to his team for sure
Hannah said her daddy is one of the best in the world about Guns and taught her well. 🤔 Hannah is on body cam saying she fkd up.. and that was the truth she did. She was negligent. Period ..
When she accepted the job, she bragged about being around guns all of her life. Charged with gross negligence: Uh, I don't know nothin'....
This is the definition of gross negligence with depraved indifference for human life
You act like it was a gun range, not a movie set
Agreed.
@frelnc "Gross negligence is a lack of care that demonstrates reckless disregard for the safety or lives of others, which is so great it appears to be a conscious violation of other people's rights to safety."
An actor was handed a prop he told was clear by the person responsible for the props, and started practicing his lines.
Sorry, but words have meaning.
Jail time for both Gutierrez and Baldwin....
Put them both in jail 2 years
You never wanna work on a low budget movie with lots of guns.
True that.
Low Budget was not really the issue, it was THE CREW !!! If I saw Gutierrez walk in to manage "guns", I would have walk off, just like the crew whom did... That save their life.
@@chriswong9158 Just listening to her in her interview, she as a weak grasp on the language of gun handling.
there were Live ends every where....
How many low buget movies have been made and nothing has happened?
Hall’s should NEVER have been offered a deal! He should be on trial as well!
Sad, but Hall made the right deal, he is walking. fyi, both Baldwin & Gutierrez offer same, but want to go to court.
@@chriswong9158 Hannah is cooked. Very surprised she did not take the deal. OTOH, I can see why Alec wants to fight. He relied on people to do their jobs so he expected the tool to be safe. His failure to hire competent people and then his failure to supervise them after two on set accidental discharges are going to be a big problem.
@@encinobalboaAnd he didn't check the gun, he pointed it right at her, and HE PULLED THE TRIGGER!
They offered everyone a deal. Halls was the only one who took it.
How can the guest say the Armorer isn’t responsible at all? That’s ridiculous.
Exactly if that’s their duty
The only thing I can think of is that he misspoke and that he meant to say that the armorer is not the only one responsible, since he just said that each of the 3 people failed in their duty to check it.
the “adults” in her entire generation aren’t responsible for their actions-don’t you know that?
The armorer didn't aim then fire an unchecked gun at the cinematographer, at close range. Only Alec performed those actions. Only Alec decided to break every gun rule and ignore film set protocols for gun handling. The armorer wasn't even allowed in the church to perform her job.
Blame Dave Halls for his part because he ordered dummy rounds that were not required for the rehearsal. Hannah turned the barrel to show Dave the rounds then he claims not to have paid attention. Then Dave, not knowing whether the rounds were safe, called out "cold gun." Dave, taking over armorer duty neglected to demonstrate the rounds for Baldwin. Alec should have insisted on the inspection.
Everyone is assuming the armorer is guilty because she is a scatterbrain but two people handled the gun after her who also had opportunity to insert a live round. In the end though, only Alec decided to fire a gun at Halyna.
@@mondobear22She pretty clearly didn't do her job, that assigns at least a portion of responsibility to her. There was a chain of failures and it appears to have begun with her.
They talk as if she was bad at her job. If she wasn't doing her job properly then why didn't they fire her?
Because it was during a union strike and she was low paid and willing to do two jobs on set.
She's a nepo baby. She didn't even know proper terminology
Alec Baldwin wanted to pay as little as possible or maybe he was friends with her father? There’s definitely some reason Alec let this happen.
"They talk as if she was bad at her job" She was bad at her job. The production didn't care enough, they are at fault too, but she is definitely guilty of negligence. Also, she was the boss of her department, so she supervised herself.
$$$ and she was a diversity hire.
I read an article about the armorer. She was a newbie to the trade. Vinny's question is well put. Who in Hell was responsible for the guns AND AMMO on the set? There should NEVER have been any live rounds anywhere near that set. And apparently someone on set was playing - PLAYING - with a gun loaded with live rounds. Crazy.
For sure. She was high on drugs which was horrific.
She mentioned her dad was also in the profession though? I wonder if she got the job through nepotism? She just mentioned her dad and they were like oh sweet we can pay her dirt cheap but she’s got experience. Allegedly they purchased dummies from a disorganized shop…I feel like production took advantage of her, but also she bragged about being around guns her whole life. You can’t say that and then claim ignorance when you miss live rounds mixed in with dummies, and fail to check them while you’re loading the gun.
I like Vinny.
Hannah is sitting in the courtroom like she's in 5th period social studies. Completely disengaged.That will not go over well with the jury. It makes her look remorseless & entitled.
Awful! She looks bored as though it’s nothing to do with her, a woman died ffs looks as if it’s an inconvenience to her 😡
She sits there respectfully for hours. What is she supposed to do?
@@vickithomas179 what ! You think she looks respectful
@@vickithomas179Plead guilty and show accountability
@@dawnatkinson7704God forbid!
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“Even if it was a low budget film, safety is free.” - John Schneider.
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I have worked on various TV sets, not as an armorer, but as a production assistant, including on the set of the very popular police TV show Chicago PD, where the entire cast uses real, and various weapons non-stop, from various types of pistols to machine guns, and from my experience I can say that It's best when everyone on a film set has to check their guns, both armorers and actors. For extra security, just to be sure. The best-case scenario is also to hire actors who know how to handle weapons in real life.
And I must say that the cast of Chicago PD is a shining example here. The Chicago PD cast is highly trained in weapons and some of the guys there know weapons incredibly well, almost as well as professional armorers and police officers. For example, actor Jesse Lee Soffer, who plays an Afghanistan veteran and cop on the show, Jay Halstead, is an accomplished& excellent shooter in real life, knows his way around almost every gun and ammunition, and is generally very athletic, and one of the real-life veteran cops from Chicago, Brian Luce, who is the expert and producer on the show, told me that Jesse is the only one out of the cast who could be a great cop in real life.
So, it's best to have well-trained actors in movies and TV series that require using a lot of firearms, then there's nothing to worry about. And such actors exist, and still, they are later additionally trained, just like on the set of Chicago PD. The only difference is that since it's a police procedural/cop show, there were real police officers and weapons experts from Chicago working there as experts and armorers, so the training was top-notch. Rust definitely had a very chaotic, unprofessional production department and an unprofessional, irresponsible armorer. Such a tragedy would certainly not have happened if the best, most experienced weapons experts had worked on this set.
Great explanation of the safety protocols that were never followed from John Schneider!
And he said the armorer was not at fault.
Will the crew members who walked off set because of the safety issues testify?
I hope so.
Yes, if DA cover their cost & time, but really not needed in this case... But NM v Baldwin YES !! I would as DA.
No.
Great interviews! And thank you John Schneider for bringing truth and experience regarding protocols!
Baldwin heard multiple misfires the day before, he knew the situation with the guns in set was VERY out of control. Knowing that, he pointed a loaded gun at a woman and pulled the hammer back (and possibly pulled the trigger). He knew the situation with the guns was insanely bad and he still did that.
well lets wait for the testimony to that before we call it fact
There were two accidental discharges within an hour of each other, many complaints from the crew about the lack of safety, the 6 crew that walked off....even Hannah, who should face consequences, told her superiors that if she has to do two jobs, one in props and one as the armorer, said that her attention diverted from her armorer duties will end up with her making mistakes and look what happened? The management was willfully ignorant including Baldwin.
It also apply to cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, had she follow the crew walk off, it would not have happen to her
And walked past a dying woman, not realising he shot her for 45 mins, apparently. Freak.
Yeah but those were negligent discharges with blanks. His gun was supposedly loaded with dummy rounds. Apples and oranges. In my opinion, he could not foresee what happened. With Hannah it was a different story. Without her negligence that accident would have never happened.
What justifies having live rounds on a set
Play real gun on a western cowboy studio back drop... with no adult on site....
Defense lawyer was so rude to the camera guy… unacceptable
There are no "accidental" discharges. Only negligent discharges.
They had 2 warning shots and didn't heed to safety. Very reckless
Why was Alec Baldwin aiming that gun at the camera lady in the first place?
He was practicing his cross draw during a practice scene.
Right! He should not have. He shouldn’t have pointed it at anybody. Even people who don’t know how to handle guns or who aren’t in the industry knows better than that.
It was a movie, he was drawing with gun facing camera, she was near the camera (behind it, off to side).
Young people on drugs goofing around and target shooting cans. Amo got mixed up & Hannah carelessly put real bullets in the prop gun. She is totally to blame
Exactly!
Love court TV! Awesome channel. Small note, the music mixing here 7:36 is off, it’s really hard to hear what they’re saying :)
Why wasn’t this safety person Dave charged also?! It sounds like all three are negligent.
He took a deal already
So…this girl didn’t even have a concealed weapon permit? Wow. This is a case when ignorance is NOT bliss.
Excellent!
excellent commentary, this is a train wreak i cannot stop watching
Filming movies is mostly just waiting time for the crew, until the actors and set is ready. I’m thinking they just spent that time playing with the guns and shooting at things on the set to kill the time.Someone just left the life rounds in, in a rush… It’s not an accident it’s negligence
Good point !
The man who gave antique guns to shoot was very clear no live rounds were to be fired from that antique 6 shooter and the crew did use it with live rounds in impromptu target practice so already they were not being safe that's why live rounds were around. No one checked all six cylinders were blanks. The live rounds have a silver center.
I agreed with Fojbe, that the gun was probably used earlier for Plinking and Alec had no clue that the rounds in the gun were real , maybe even Alec was plinking with the gun earlier, but looking at this nut so-called armorer I bet she was the cause of the row of dominoes to all fall.
I would not trust her to check the oil in my lawn mower.
Hannah AND ALEC were responsible. He was the executive producer. He was in charge of safety of the production along with a myriad of other things. He cut safety meetings, he had an entire camera crew walk off set and quit the day before the death. He was notified by Lane Looper, and he told Lane to kick rocks, he didnt need him and he didnt care about why they were leaving. He reached out to EXPERIENCED ARMOROURS VERY SHORTLY before production instead of doing it earlier, they ALL told him NO WAY because of the amount of guns he wanted and it being such a short period of time, not to mention he didnt want safety meetings for them, found Hannah, TOTALLY INEXPERIENCED, and the EXTREMELY EXPERIENCED ARMOROURS SAID NO because it wasnt safe, so he goes around them and hires this inexperienced drug addict, Hannah, to do TWO JOBS when even doing the ONE JOB for experienced armorours was too much, held an inpromtu run through without the armorour present and even though the ENTIRE CAMERA CREW QUIT THE DAY BEFORE OVER SAFETY ISSUES REGARDING THE GUNS AND POSSIBLE LIVE AMMO, the man STILL takes a gun THROWN TO HIM by Dave Halls, doesnt fkin check it AT ALL, just assumes Halls knows wtf he's talking about, takes the gun, AIMS IT, AND PULLS THE TRIGGER ALMOST KILLING 3 PEOPLE (a cameraman, Joel Souza, Halyna) and DOES KILL Halyna. 16 SAFETY VIOLATIONS that if he had followed JUST ONE OF THE SAFETY PROTOCOLS SHE'D BE ALIVE PEOPLE!!! THEN gets on TV and LIES about pulling the trigger which we now know he's a fkin liar. They have FOOTAGE of him with his finger on the trigger moments before he kills her. IF ANYONE SAYS HE IS INNOCENT, YOU MUST BE ON CRACK.
It was Hannas Job ALONE
The lack of professionalism of this girl is absolutely unbelievable… one would think one would represent themselves in such a manner with having such a high responsibility and especially with just starting out with a career in a business that so many would love to have the opportunity she was given. I would also think she would want to make her Father proud and represent herself with the same standards of his career.
Exactly!
Hello John, thank you for your view of things. You are so experienced in this business and are a good judge of the situation.
Sending you love from Germany and hope your heart can heal.🌹🕊
Someone probably contaminated the ammo supply just to stop this project... Anyway this story is more interesting than the movie would have been, showing us how ridiculous the film industry is
It's conspiratorial but I also wondered if someone handled gun during lunch and put live round in as sabotage. First AD didn't check weapon. 3 people never checked the Colt single action revolver missed the life round. But we now know live rounds were on a movie set with real guns and there never should have been live rounds on set - period.
She has green and purple hair. Who TF hired her to be in charge of deadly weapons. Hire a veteran or a guy who wears a cowboy hat. Wtf
Diversity is our greatest virtue lol
Exactly!
Alec Baldwin is an actor! Not an armorer. The armorer is the armorer. Why hire an armorer, when everyone is expected to do an armorers job? Is the armorer expected to act in the show? Everyone has their jobs. The armorer is guilty 100%. The rest of the crew IS NOT culpable for the mistakes, oversights, ineptitude of the armorer.
But Baldwin was responsible for hiring the Armorer.
@@loadedhot1034 That's 100% a lie! A production company hired her!
"On Oct. 14, the film’s line producer, Gabrielle Pickle, scolded Gutierrez Reed in an email reviewed by the Los Angeles Times, saying the production office had received complaints that two shotguns had been left unattended on the set. Pickle also took Gutierrez Reed to task for allegedly not doing enough to support the film’s prop master, Sarah Zachry.
“We hired you as both Armor and Key Assistant Props,” Pickle wrote in the Oct. 14 email, according to a copy shared with The Times.
Signed, Alec Baldwin
Loaded guns do not kill people. Aiming it at a person, cocking the hammer and pulling the trigger DOES. Hannah is an absolutely terrible armorer, not a killer.
Drug use in Hollywood is by nature negligence waiting to happen... "studies have found that regular cocaine users demonstrate poor memory, lack of concentration and have attention deficits." and "difficult to understand the mental perspective of others, demonstrated less emotional empathy, found it hard to detect emotions from the voices of others etc". Social concern and sense of acute responsibility would likely be affected by cocaine use.
From the sounds of it there was a lot of cuts on that set. Cuts that cost someone their life. No amount of money is worth a human life, none.💔
When the dust settles the insurance company of Rust will be out a lot of money. Alec can appeal any trial outcome for years. He is determined to finish this film for distribution.
Hows life insurance work then?
Watching this trial makes me think of a movie such as Saving Private Ryan where bullets and armor is a plenty and yet, zero incidents.
Money talks in Hollywood
Unions matter. Safety over profit matters. Logic.
Maybe this was actually planned targeted 🤔
You are right but let us hope that something different is done this time around.
@@vida3814It might be.....
@@cathnathaniel1549 I have no clue anything is possible. why would they make such a mistake! maybe the target was to destroy Alec Baldwin's life 🤔 it's a strange case to me🧐
Quite a few people are guilty of negligence, Gutierrez, Baldwin and David Halls. Gutierrez for the obvious reason for loading a live round, Baldwin and Hall for ignoring the safety issues. Less so for Baldwin pulling the trigger if the armourer told him it was a blank.
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Also a point nobody has made, Alec Baldwins father was a gun instructor while Alec and his brothers were growing up. If any actor knows guns, it’s him. Zero excuse for not checking that weapon or aiming it towards a person.
Incredibly sad when someone goes to work and does not come home. Accidents don't just happen. Firearm safety is not the only violation of basic work place safety going on here. The managers in charge clearly did not care about the safety of their employees or take their crews safety seriously. People quit due to safety concerns yet nothing was done.
Why the loud intense music over the people talking?
Does this mean we will have a "Alec" alert on all our phones from now on? Anytime Alec touches a weapon it will send to millions of people. lol
When referring to the previous events of firearms going off unintentionally, "negligent discharge" is different than an "accidental discharge". They're not interchangable terms, Law and Crime. These are negligent discharges.
I'm third of hearing about the poor kid 24 year old, who had som much put on her shoulders. We send young men and women into combat, who are less than 21 years old. We have police officers in perilous situations at a far younger age. Health care workers, who are less than 21 years old. And we're supposed to feel sorry for 24 year old armorer?
we don’t.
she did this to herself.
No where do we have licensed health care workers under 21 years old. Gtfo with that.
Court TV, the music is distracting. Too loud.
Why are there live bullets on a set? Isn't that the biggest question?
Hannah brought them this is inexcusable.
It seems like this entire movie set was filled with a Wild West party mentality! No one forced Alec to pull the gun directly at the camera crew. I think he thought he was being funny.
As Alec was practicing his cross draw the gun went off and the two camera crew were in alignment with the camera just behind it. The one bullet fired went straight through first person into second. Alec claimed he didn't pull the trigger but the FBI ballistics tester said the gun had to be cocked and trigger pulled to shoot weapon. No other way was possible to make gun go off by accident except if gun hammer was broken. Tragic. The family of the woman killed have a video of a computer simulation of the scene as it went off - you can watch it to see what he was doing, how close they were what happened. Alec was insistent that guns be real on set not rubber props. It never should have happened. But several people making mistakes led to this event happening - not just one.
That’s ridiculous.
I was an AD. Safety was ignored. Protocol was ignored. All involved were grossly negligent, the armorer particular. Most importantly, there should never have been live rounds on site. Not on set. Not on the truck. Not on anyone’s possession. PERIOD.
❓#1. Who discharge the 1st shot?
#2. Who discharge the 2nd shot?
# 3. Who supplied that boxed that is labeled DUMMY ROUNDS?
It’s suggested that she was high on drugs during the filming. The defense attorneys were fighting to keep her drug use out of court but it was in her text messages.
Wow! John Schneider's experience, knowledge and eloquence of expression really are compelling! He should be an expert for these trials!
It has been discussed several times before. She was not in the church because of Covid restrictions. She was not allowed in the church.
the armorer would be essential.
She can't be responsible then. AD is. She wasn't present.
@@WagTheDog_813 Even Kari Morrissey said it wouldn't have made a difference. Hannah assumed those were all dummy rounds so if she rechecked the gun she wouldn't have identified the live round. The big problem was that she was using all different types of dummy rounds. Some with holes, some without that look almost exactly like live rounds. She wasn't very organized.
@@lpr5269 when she’s first being interviewed at the police station and she empties her pockets it is such a hot mess. All this unorganized ammunition comes tumbling out on the table. As someone who has ADD it kind of looked like we have something in common.
John is spot on here. You have to understand movie production hierarchy to understand culpability here.
Why was live ammo on the set anyway??
Why would they not hire a military veteran that served as an armorer? Theres tens of thousands that could do that job with total safety maintained.
Money. They offered it to a veteran armorer but they didn't want to pay that much. He was told he would have to be a prop person, too and he refused thinking it would be too dangerous.
@@laurelannmoss5859 whoever joined these jobs together is also guilty.
Right on!!
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"The gun fired"... lol, sure it did, all by itself....
Hannah was unprofessional and reckless. The was exactly the same on the set of "The Old Way" in Montana and she should have been fired then. She got a second chance and blew it. Literally. I've been at both sets and left. Yes- this is normal behavior for a low budget western, but this led to a death. I hope they learn, but I am doubtful.
That box being on set is very telling. I think she assumed her Dad, who taught her, would “never” mix things up. The rest is lazy egos. All should be charged.
The background music is way too loud and hectic
That is hard to believe…..3 ultimate discharges and not a full reset after the first one let alone the 2nd…WOW!!!
They had live rounds mixed with dummy rounds. There’s no way that set was ever safe. It was a matter of when not if.
Alec Baldwin said that he would never point a gun at someone and pull the trigger. So he knows how dangerous it is to do that, yet he did it. Even if you believe he didn't pull the trigger, he aimed a gun and pulled the hammer all the way back, then let it go. Incredibly dangerous to do that. He was negligent.
Two negligent discharges should have been reason enough to close down the whole set and have one Hell of a good hard look.
Someone in charge didn't call a meeting on safety because half the crew had walked off set due to safety concerns and there was stress due to COVID protocols to get scene in the can. Dave Hall only saw three depressed primer dummy rounds in chamber not all 6. If he had seen all six he would have noticed. So several people had to have made mistakes for this to happen.
So where did the live rounds come from? I heard that other workers on the set had used these guns for target practice days before.
I think the Armorer Hannah was intimidated by Baldwin and probably didn’t want to stand up to him but besides that… she still didn’t take her job seriously…
And remember…. 99.9999% of the time it’s a “Negligent Discharge”… not and accidental discharge. It’s negligent because someone had their finger on the trigger 99.9999% of the time when they should not have.
This was like someone leaving a loaded gun in a room full of toddlers.
“Safety is Free.” Best quote!
No work place that cuts corners for profit is safe.
Vine is my favorite the way he covers the stories so detailed ❤
Dr. Jasson Piccolo just nailed it saying when single action revolver hammer is fully cocked, only pressure on the trigger is required to fire. I believe the difference between the double action revolver and the single action revolver is important in this case. The position of the trigger in a double action is center of trigger guard and requires about 3/4 inch pull to fire. With single action revolver the trigger is fixed or tight near rear of the trigger guard and requires only slight pressure to fire. Recently I saw a video of Baldwin rehearsing a scene where he repeatedly fires a double action revolver dramatically pulling the trigger rapidly firing multiple shots. In the fatality he is using a single action revolver and states as he did the cross draw he cocked the gun. I believe this shows neglect and why Baldwin thinks he didn't pull the trigger.
According to an interview with the prop master one of the unintentional discharges was a stunt man handling the gun which had blanks in it. The second was done by the prop master (person being interviewed) when she was trying to un-cock a gun loaded with blanks. None of those were live rounds. Note that the term ''misfire'' is being used totally wrong in this case. A misfire is when you pull the trigger and expect something to happen and it doesn't. Note that the prop master said that she has never fired a real gun with a real bullet. So she has very little experience with guns yet she was handling the guns.
Alec knew there were Live Rounds being Fired on His Set!
No he didn’t she brought live rounds on the set from her home because she got them mixed up with the dummy’s that has already been proven. She was careless as hell and it proves it. Everyone said she was careless. And Why would he knowingly fire live rounds on set on purpose? So that he will go to jail and have to go through all this court stuff? And his life would practically be over? Absolutely not. The woman in charge of the armory is 100% at fault because she is the one that “accidentally” brought the live rounds on set from her home. If anyone
Knowingly brought live rounds on set is her and only her. She is the one that had the job of taking care of the guns and dummy rounds she is the one that was careless she is the one that handed him the gun with live rounds in it whether she m
Knew it or not to be live rounds she is the one that failed miserably . I’m not a fan of Alec but right is right and wrong is wrong.
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I propose that from this point forward all actors are properly trained on how to handle firearms since PROFESSIONAL EXPERTS are unable to keep sets safe. Actors will need to be trained to understand that there is no cold gun and every time they fire a weapon on set they need to be the ones to make sure the rounds are dummy rounds and not rely on armorers that clearly are unable to do that simple job.
@@jefferyk.spellerberg176 the actor will have to be trained to make sure that those are still dummy rounds. Otherwise the risk to the actor of being charged by Law Enforcement is too high. I don't disagree with you regarding who is really at fault here but apparently Law Enforcement and many people commenting on these videos feel that Baldwin should be charged for murder.
It is a bit ridiculous, there was no higher safety standards in place. I mean, even as a nurse, we need 2 signatures to take out narcotics (that are locked up.) We have many safety protocols for high risk medications. Why do they not require that for a movie production? Two armors should be double checking everything. Hollywood can afford it!
she’s unprofessional. doesn’t mean everyone in her field is.
the irony of your post is your job description was exactly hers. all things gun/weapon safety were her job.
she should of pulled alec aside and informed him of gun safety.
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@@jendee1260 I don't disagree however Law Enforcement and many people posting on these stories want Baldwin to face murder charges.
how much safer is the job site without live ammo ?
Good point... I wonder what other general health & safety violations were occuring in this shītshow of a production 🤔
UNCALLED FOR..SAD😢
John Schneider has said this consistently since the day after this tragedy. Secure the props/ armor. It’s not rocket science, geez.
Movies are play-acting, and playing with guns is stupid.
I'm sorry but who tf hired a TWENTY FOUR YEAR OLD amorer? She barely had 3 years of legal experience, so how did she even get the job? 😅 it's not funny but it is kind of comical, you would have thought it would be a professional who's been in the business for at least 20 years to handle weapons on set
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Could you maybe stop playing loud music while playing the courtroom clips? It’s very distracting. Thank you.
after the first negligent discharge production should have been shut down. then a second one. yikes safety. rules of firearms assume all are loaded. don t point any firearm at someone.
Where's Chanley Painter at!?
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I bought a .44 Magnum revolver and picked it up from the FFL dealer. On the way home I looked at it and realized how incredibly lethal that gun was. It left me with a lot of responsibility and consternation owning or possibly using that someday against another human.
John Schneider! Well, he has been on sets with a LOT of guns.
Schneider has chimed in on this many times about standard well known gun safety was just not followed. The three principle rules: never point a gun at a person, always assume a gun is loaded, always check if a gun is loaded after being handed one. Never assume a gun is not loaded with a live round if it in your hand you always check. The live rounds in a six shooter had silver centers. That poor woman who was shot and killed and her family and the other man was shot and injured. The movie is intending to be finished and released due to contractual obligations.
Ross ' voice is like amazing voiceover quality
Is that blonde lady correspondent a cartoon charter? She belongs in an snl skit, not commenting on a serious subject like this. Wow.
I find her smiling during her report unnerving.
She's weird. The way she talks.
She is young and was allegedly doing yayo on set. That's why protocols were not followed.
Safety is free. Great quote
The titanic levels of sheer incompetence in this tragic (but EASILY avoidable) situation, just boggles the mind. There are no excuses for it. None. The lies told by Alec Baldwin are childish and utterly unbelievable by ANYONE with even the most basic knowledge of how revolvers work. He DID pull the trigger. PERIOD. EVERY video of him pulling the pistol from the holster, clearly shows his finger on the trigger. He's just an idiot actor, not a real firearms user. One would expect him to be ignorant of proper pistol usage. The armorer is a pathetic excuse for an "expert" in firearms. She was a politically correct, CHEAP hire. She knew just enough to be horribly dangerous. Allowing live rounds anywhere NEAR a movie set is absolutely unheard of. Negligent homicide is actually too mild a charge, but the most they can do. It wasn't murder, in the strictest sense of the word, but it's pretty close. Doing things on purpose that caused a fatality, is SO close to murder as it can be and not be. Somehow, some way, Baldwin will get away with it, with only a slap on the wrist because he's famous and that's just wrong.
and he had his emotional breakdown right on cue...
Uuhhh...he is so fake that it's cringe worthy.
Uuhhh...he is so fake that it's cringe worthy.
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wouldn’t you have one if you accidentally killed somebody?
what a stupid thing to say.