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Trials like this emphasize the importance of being able to afford a good defense. I can only imagine all those who might have been innocent but couldn't afford it and their outcomes.
I said same thing earlier. If these cops will cover up a murder every case they have been involved with really needs to be looked at. Esp lower income people with plea deals
John's phone arrives at 12:24am and registered 80 steps and decent 3 flights of stairs between 12:22:10 and 12:24:22 Jens first text to John is not until 12:27. Karen Reads phone connects to wifi at John's house at 12:36 so she was not out in front of 34 Fareview at 12:31 and 12:40 when lying Jen McCabe says she looked out the door and texted John and "saw" Karens Lexus move to the flag pole and move in front of the flag pole. Also John's apple heath data registered him taking steps at 12:31:56 and 12:31:16 when Karen is no longer at Fairview.
If JOK didn't arrive until 12:24am, I'm confused how he can descend 3 flights of stairs 2 minutes before that? If him showing up at 12:24am is the case, logically, it would be safe to assume he was still in the car at 12:22am. I'm just now starting this video so maybe they'll explain it but just by reading your comment, it doesn't make sense.
Hilarious. He’s purged him self in front of the grand jury. He’s still apologetic. He had to be taught by MR Whiffen. Lol. Whatever he has said is false.
Are you serious ? He’s heading the for court himself. He’s kindergarten mistakes and then learning about them and still holding firm are way out of line. Won’t be at next trial if he has any brains. Fraud
@@defendyourclam1682Were you born yesterday? He was and Is kindergarten material. He has no skill set in cellbrite at all. He has no experience or even knowledge in this format and he is up against a leading American phone expert and also a world expert who actually builds formats in this field. He apologises on the stand or did you miss that ? He perjured himself twice and that was in pre trial. Greene was shown and taught by Mr Whiffen on where and how he went wrong. Rookie mistake. Whiffen changed a particular format so knobs like Greene don’t misinterpret things so easily. Greene agreed and apologised for his misinterpretation. Now if Greene ended it there and clarified with the defence on his mishaps and therefor their mishaps then things wouldn’t be so bad for him. That fact he went and got his pay day anyways and kept on pushing forward into trial, means he’s in serious litigation territory here. What don’t you understand about this? So McCabe didn’t do this search at 2:27am it was done at 6;23 am at the time Karen read demanded it to be searched. 10 mins later she went with virtually the same thing asking an ambulance officer when she was threatening to harm herself and her father called 911 to stop her from doing so. The stair climb that were 3 stories, well firstly the house is 2 stories and second it’s happened a mile away from the house. It’s happened in Karen’s car. You can’t climb stairs in a car and I’m sure you know this. This happened before John Okeefe has put the address of 34 Fairview into his phone. So again Greene totally mishandled information that has lead to serious consequences. So this muppet has gone rogue here and a lot of his work was the start of this Karen read movement. 2:27 am search regarding how long to die , factually wrong. I’m sure even you and I know you can’t search 2 things in the same millisecond. We don’t need to be experts to work that out. As Whiffen pointed out for those who are listening, it’s impossible to search 2 things at once. Therefor it didn’t happen. So no Google search at 2:27 of how long to die. No stair climbing in Karen’s car and he never got in the house. Those are facts. Now you I guess are firmly in the Karen court and that’s your deal. I don’t care. You cannot just say this happened when it’s proven it didn’t. Look at fair and reasonable not with total bias.
He needs to go to prison. He's not the one who killed John but he didn't have the backbone to do the right thing, his kids can NOT grow up believing he's a good man. He's a lousy coward, who put this on a innocent woman. Did a shady half a$$Ed investigation, that's my opinion of him anyways. I'm very shocked by him and his superiors for allowing him to behave as poorly as he did.
What do you mean? Because I kinda Agee but more with the prosecution and detective specifically. They think they are so smart and that they think they can lie and cover and that nobody sees right through it.
The difference between CW expert witness and defence expert witness is CW expert had a very narrow information. Where as the Defence expert had lots of information to examine. This is why I accept defence witness. He had the freedom to explore all the necessary information and used the correct phone models and most importantly the correct operating system on the appropriate phones .
The state dis not prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. WHETHER KR struck JO or not she is not guilty, that's how the justice system should work.
@@debrashawcross170 What do you mean? The Feds? I think that this is a little over your head. I don't think that you understand the scope of the federal investigation and the difference between state and federal jurisdiction.
Karen Read will be acquitted this week , guaranteed, just when you think you’ve seen everything that Yannetti and Jackson have to offer, hold your breath
Probably one juror holding them out for acquittal. Probably a gotten to juror...the mafia does that and this crew of Boston cops are not much different.
At 1224am he's still moving and she's dropped him off, yet at 1237am she's calling him and shouting that she hates him and doesn't know where he is. Yeah I'm going to need her to testify. This is very odd
It’s obvious they were fighting often. They def fought on way to house. Thats most likely why she left. I think the most telling info is her erratic texts and phone calls. If she intentionally killed him the last thing she’d want to do is purposely make herself look unhinged. She was trying to manipulate him home by saying she left and kids were home alone. She had a long history of behaving that way- John told her the day before to quit blowing him up. I find this unflattering for her, but evidence against 2nd degree murder charge. She initially was pissed he went in, so started calling, then when he didn’t answer she let her mind run wild and got really pissed. Once he didn’t take kid bait… she got scared.
This tech witness owes no Tech Debt to his profession. He Knows the Machine(s). Alternatively, the prosecutor knows how to bully; he is incapable of asking clear, concise and well structured questions. This Tech Witness however, never once got defensive w/the prosecutor. Alternatively, as soon as the Cell Tech Trooper was challenged you could see his ever-reddening-face contort into fight-mode; a rapidly-fired-up Tech Debtor coupled with a thin skin.
Karen Read clearly ran over John O'Keefe with her SUV, then chose to leave John incapacitated on the ground with a fractured skull to freeze to death alone. All of the relevant evidence clearly proves this, and is unrefuted. The circus is designed to distract your attention away from the relevant evidence.
@@jenreilly8058car going in reverse (10mph) will not kill someone if it did not run over. If he hit his head on something, different story. Where is the blood??
@@andrewdevine3920what evidence tells you she’s guilty? What about all of the evidence tampering that has been proven? How can you claim that that causes not even a small doubt? Surely you must be able to explain how you think the odds she is guilty are 100%.
soooo, are we to believe that Karen ran him over upon arrival. The family dog dragged his body inside the home and up and down the stairs, basement, first floor and second floor, then took him back outside to the fire hydrant (insert joke here) and left him to freeze to death and nobody inside the home noticed?
The forensic expert mentioned that the 3 minute time difference for the waze app was "important". There was an objection that was sustained. Interesting the questioning attorney didn't press back on that. Sometimes a 1 second time difference may seem "important" to a forensic expert when performing an examination. The entire reason we have experts is so they can give their opinion and in this case, this is a very valid opinion that would be commonly made by forensic experts in the field of digital forensics. The courts / attorneys will only get better at dealing with this scientific data if there are discussions and not just simple dismissals by a judge who likely has zero understanding of how this stuff works. It is incumbent on the attorneys in the courtroom to press for further discussion in my opinion. Remember, experts are supposed to give opinions........... that's why they are called experts.
I know the internet searches were pretty damning in this trial........ searching for hypothermia and how long to die in cold. Kinda hard to get around that, but she did.
Jen Mccabes call doesn’t matter that much. She didn’t kill John. Someone in her family did and after autopsy photos and dog bite testimony you’d have to b an idiot to still think this was intentional murder
@@jeanmariesmith1224bull dust. Stop the utter lies. Karen killed John. Karen isn’t important enough for a conspiracy and either is that house. Rocks in peoples heads
@@stevenprice6957any claims of conspiracy or cover-up etc are irrelevant. The evidence that exists doesn’t prove that John Okeefe was hit by a car, period. The cellphone data, meetings, conflicts of interest, and injuries to the victim leave enough reasonable doubt, but the botched and biased investigation ensured that this poor man’s family will never know what exactly happened to him
@@WomanofSteeleWoman of Steele. Great name. Karen must be the bionic woman as she had X-ray vision spotting they body in a blizzard in the Darkness under snow. I’ll put it to you this way and I seriously get what you are saying. I believe strongly in science physics math etc. 1/3 of evidence is close to 33% correct ? To make a full 100% evaluation you need to look or have 33% at your disposal. Simple math tells you that. They didn’t have vehicle data, they went with the skull fracture came from the car it’s self. They had no idea about weather speed etc. so what they were given, they are not even testing it they way. The state didn’t say her car collected his skull and it fractured. That came from being hit with force and cracking the back of his head on icy hard ground. Also DNA. They had nothing about that,and I’m being generous about 1/3 of the evidence. It’s like a doctor ready to go into serious surgery and saying I’ve looked at 1/3 of your test results and I’ll guess it from here on in. Any professional wouldn’t do that. Even a carpenter. John’s DNA is inside the housing of the tail light ok. It’s a brand spanking new car. It was unbroken the morning before as shown at trial. So how on earth does his DNA get inside the housing ? He didn’t work at Lexus and build the car. Anyways look at 100% and then give an evaluation. Even then it’s just a highly qualified opinion. This was a rare event. Reversal is rare and it’s usually kids in driveways. This has a flat back end. It’s icy. The speed, the glass on his hand.. it’s like a fingerprint. None are ever the same exactly. The whole vehicle data was not given to them which is real fishy stuff. The acceleration etc. the drop in speed slightly with no foot release from 76% down. Consistent with a pedestrian hit. One of he main factors in the whole case is the tail light. Now at 4;50 she says to Jen McCabe after caught in her first lie of leaving him at the waterfall as they had a fight. She said my tail light is busted. Kaylee is there next to Karen. Karen is using her phone ok. So 2 witnesses to that comment at 4;50. We see it with a gaping hole at 5;07. How and where did they tail light break? It’s a very simple answer unless you break into a big foot conspiracy. John does not move after her reversal. His GPS says so. It’s built for military. War. Anyways. It’s a simple hit and run that’s turned into I don’t know what. 12 jurors have to agree and she has a lot of fans because of these made up fairy tails from many months ago. She will always be the killer. Will Justice be served? I’m not so sure. Also the state were so sloppy. I mean jurors are just people. They need to be shown in a Simple fashion. Time lines a chart ect. Anyway we all have opinions. I’ll just say to you if it’s truth you want. Then chose your truth. Ask questions and find the answers. Ask yourself this. Why has all that conspiracy stuff that they promised before trial been smashed to smithereens ? Google searches ? We know now what happened from the 2 works leading experts and one of them puts the actual program together. He had to teach Greene and Greene is likely up for perjury and has already apologised even on the stand. Unprofessional. They went with it anyway before trial to help ruin an innocent woman’s life. Her kids everything. I mean she may have a case against Greene with the damage that’s been done and continues to be done. This conspiracies cray makes money. So RUclipsrs are cashing in. It’s just wrong. A 17 year old kid at the time that’s not even at the house. Just ruin him. For gods sake even blaming a poor dog. The only dogs that don’t have DNA in bucket loads are Scooby doo and snoopy. Going up stairs etc. what a like away and before he’s web typed the damn address in 34 Fairview. Lol so he’s upstairs getting beaten and typing the address into waves is he? Man it’s a joke. He’s a mile away and Karen and John are probably fighting already. They sat out front for 8 mins. They weren’t playing board games were they. He’s dead at 5 and Blames a plough at 5;01. 12:46 so 14 minutes after this incident she says where are you? Nobody knows where you are ? Say what Karen ? There’s a blizzard, what do you mean nobody knows where you are. He ain’t taking a midnight jog is he. She is correct about nobody likes where you are but she does. She wants John to answer that phone as her nightmare is growing by the minute. Then victim blaming again and lashed out as though it’s his fault. She said you F--g pervert. Just like she blames him 13 hours earlier when she said it’s your fault. You are setting me up to fail. He just wanted her to stop calling. You can tell he had had enough but sone men are somewhat soft and give in. Men get abused too you know. I’ve got 2 stab marks from many years ago and still have pain in my neck. I was like John. Too soft and put up with a crazy woman. Anyways. That’s my say. Apologies for my rant but I am a outtake passionate about this case. I feel for John and his family and those kids. Take care woman of Steele.
I still don't believe Jen made that call. That would mean she thought John was alive and was wondering "jeez, i wonder how long it's going to take my friend to die?" If John was alive, wouldn't the Alberts thinks someone might have found him and he could tell them "they beat me". I think Karen asked Jen to search and how would Karen KNOW how long he been in the snow? If she's innocent, she wouldn't know how long he had been in the snow. Could of been 10 minutes. But she already knew he had been there all night. It seems people so convinced of her being framed, refuse to have an open mind.
She didn't know how long he was in the snow but she knows what time she dropped him off at the Albert's house... It's obvious he was beaten in the house and dropped off on the lawn.. injuries aren't consistent with a vehicle strike..
Karen Read was acquitted of Murder You are using the words of Jennifer McCabe whom which The FBI and the Department Of Justice is coming After Next! 1. Brian Higgins 2. Brian Albert 3. Allison McCabe Destroyed Cellphone Evidence
Richard Green has zero certifications in Cellebrite software and he offered no support for his conclusion that the search occurred 4 hours earlier. He also failed to even address the fact that another search of the youth basketball league that Jen McCabe's daughter was invited to join occurred at 2:27. You obviously cannot do two searches at the same time. Common sense says the young mother searched the basketball league and not how long will it take for my friend to freeze to death. Moreover, the jury saw with their own eyes how the time stamp from the log that tracks movement of tabs was erroneously applied to the log of internet searches. The jury observed a demonstration of it. There was one search at 2 27 am, of the youth basketball league. There was one search of "hos long..." and that search occurred at 6:24 am. Shame on lying Richard Green
THESE WITNESSES DO GET PAID... BUT... THIS WITNESS IS TELLING THE UNADAULTERATED TRUTH, WHEREAS ANY PAID WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION AND THE SO-CALLED EXPERTS FOR THE COPS TOLD FABRICATIONS AND HALF TRUTHS,, BASICALLY THEY LIED...
@@tommyg5095 lol!!! The whole of the trials in the USA are finally starting to crack down on all these high paid experts because they will say whatever is needed for money. Why do you think the judge vetted all thos experts so well on the defense side. They were BS in the vetting process
NO … EXPERT Data WITNESSES FOR STATE WAS SPECIALLY ASKED TO OPIN AN OPEN TAB IN SAFARIA. Next … Hyde used a Jail Broke iPhone for her Tests. Jen’s phone was not Jail Broken. Therefore, Hyde's testimony is useless because she didn’t test Apples to Apples. Next, the Trooper for state testified using IOS 15.8 whereas Jen's phone IOS was 15.2. Again state's data is useless. SO THATS WHY THE STATE WITNESSESS WERE CONFUSING TO EVERYBODY HAVING EARS THAT CAN HEAR. ANY DATA THAT STATE HAD ACCESS TO THEY MANIPULATED THE DATA. PROOF .. COLIN ALBERT - Defense provided the photo of Colin Albert’s Freshly Scared knuckles. This pic … nobody from the Albert’s - Mccabes - and State had access to the Metadata. This prevented them from tampering with the picture. Remember that testimony or your selective memory chooses not to remember 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Trials like this emphasize the importance of being able to afford a good defense. I can only imagine all those who might have been innocent but couldn't afford it and their outcomes.
I said same thing earlier. If these cops will cover up a murder every case they have been involved with really needs to be looked at. Esp lower income people with plea deals
Yes, the poor is doomed in the courts.
@@Real_Noreaga_they should be tried as criminals
John's phone arrives at 12:24am and registered 80 steps and decent 3 flights of stairs between 12:22:10 and 12:24:22 Jens first text to John is not until 12:27. Karen Reads phone connects to wifi at John's house at 12:36 so she was not out in front of 34 Fareview at 12:31 and 12:40 when lying Jen McCabe says she looked out the door and texted John and "saw" Karens Lexus move to the flag pole and move in front of the flag pole. Also John's apple heath data registered him taking steps at 12:31:56 and 12:31:16 when Karen is no longer at Fairview.
If JOK didn't arrive until 12:24am, I'm confused how he can descend 3 flights of stairs 2 minutes before that? If him showing up at 12:24am is the case, logically, it would be safe to assume he was still in the car at 12:22am. I'm just now starting this video so maybe they'll explain it but just by reading your comment, it doesn't make sense.
Defense phone expert is doing a great job.
He's a creepy oddball
He has zero idea
You really think so? Just watched for 1st time that was weak
Hilarious. He’s purged him self in front of the grand jury. He’s still apologetic. He had to be taught by MR Whiffen. Lol. Whatever he has said is false.
This dude is bad ass. He is cooking McCabe !! Love it
Are you serious ? He’s heading the for court himself.
He’s kindergarten mistakes and then learning about them and still holding firm are way out of line. Won’t be at next trial if he has any brains. Fraud
@@stevenprice6957 not sure wtf you just said. Are you Joe Biden?
@@defendyourclam1682Were you born yesterday?
He was and Is kindergarten material. He has no skill set in cellbrite at all. He has no experience or even knowledge in this format and he is up against a leading American phone expert and also a world expert who actually builds formats in this field.
He apologises on the stand or did you miss that ? He perjured himself twice and that was in pre trial. Greene was shown and taught by Mr Whiffen on where and how he went wrong. Rookie mistake. Whiffen changed a particular format so knobs like Greene don’t misinterpret things so easily. Greene agreed and apologised for his misinterpretation. Now if Greene ended it there and clarified with the defence on his mishaps and therefor their mishaps then things wouldn’t be so bad for him. That fact he went and got his pay day anyways and kept on pushing forward into trial, means he’s in serious litigation territory here. What don’t you understand about this? So McCabe didn’t do this search at 2:27am it was done at 6;23 am at the time Karen read demanded it to be searched. 10 mins later she went with virtually the same thing asking an ambulance officer when she was threatening to harm herself and her father called 911 to stop her from doing so. The stair climb that were 3 stories, well firstly the house is 2 stories and second it’s happened a mile away from the house. It’s happened in Karen’s car. You can’t climb stairs in a car and I’m sure you know this. This happened before John Okeefe has put the address of 34 Fairview into his phone. So again Greene totally mishandled information that has lead to serious consequences. So this muppet has gone rogue here and a lot of his work was the start of this Karen read movement. 2:27 am search regarding how long to die , factually wrong. I’m sure even you and I know you can’t search 2 things in the same millisecond. We don’t need to be experts to work that out. As Whiffen pointed out for those who are listening, it’s impossible to search 2 things at once. Therefor it didn’t happen. So no Google search at 2:27 of how long to die. No stair climbing in Karen’s car and he never got in the house. Those are facts. Now you I guess are firmly in the Karen court and that’s your deal. I don’t care. You cannot just say this happened when it’s proven it didn’t. Look at fair and reasonable not with total bias.
Proctor needs to be kicked off job
He should be in prison!!
Prison time 💥
Karen Read needs to be kicked off the internet, money returned to mentally sick donors, and sent to prison for minimum of 40 years.
Needs to be prosecuted and arrested
He needs to go to prison. He's not the one who killed John but he didn't have the backbone to do the right thing, his kids can NOT grow up believing he's a good man. He's a lousy coward, who put this on a innocent woman. Did a shady half a$$Ed investigation, that's my opinion of him anyways. I'm very shocked by him and his superiors for allowing him to behave as poorly as he did.
Sometimes a lawyer view is blind sided to the simple things that the public see
What do you mean? Because I kinda Agee but more with the prosecution and detective specifically. They think they are so smart and that they think they can lie and cover and that nobody sees right through it.
The difference between CW expert witness and defence expert witness is CW expert had a very narrow information. Where as the Defence expert had lots of information to examine. This is why I accept defence witness. He had the freedom to explore all the necessary information and used the correct phone models and most importantly the correct operating system on the appropriate phones .
The state dis not prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. WHETHER KR struck JO or not she is not guilty, that's how the justice system should work.
$1,000 an hour for this guy????
Who?
Atleast
There’s no need for the prosecution to be so aggressive with the phone expert. Bullying the witnesses is a rookie move
Cannot wait till they call Turtleboy to defend KR, after all he is the one who started this whole charade. Justice for John O'Keefe 💔❤💔
Turtleboy 🐢 has been vindicated. Those that Framed Karen will be Arrested.
@@debrashawcross170 Haha. Don't hold your breath.
@@milart12 closing in on the McAlbert's
@@debrashawcross170 What do you mean? The Feds? I think that this is a little over your head. I don't think that you understand the scope of the federal investigation and the difference between state and federal jurisdiction.
I am curious what was on Allison McCabe's Phone
Brian Albert's Phone
Brian Higgins Phone
These 3 have something major to hide.
Like what?
@@milart12 ruclips.net/video/yd7RTQ2_sTQ/видео.htmlsi=c0ZU_V_NH4FSFw9N
Like Mike Proctor
Karen Read will be acquitted this week , guaranteed, just when you think you’ve seen everything that Yannetti and Jackson have to offer, hold your breath
Probably one juror holding them out for acquittal. Probably a gotten to juror...the mafia does that and this crew of Boston cops are not much different.
@@traceygiles3972 And then the jury votes 9-3 to convict on dui/manslaughter. You were wrong.
At 1224am he's still moving and she's dropped him off, yet at 1237am she's calling him and shouting that she hates him and doesn't know where he is. Yeah I'm going to need her to testify. This is very odd
Yea it’s called a pissed off woman! If that makes a woman guilty - then throw majority of us in jail for being capable of murder! 😂🙄
It’s obvious they were fighting often. They def fought on way to house. Thats most likely why she left. I think the most telling info is her erratic texts and phone calls. If she intentionally killed him the last thing she’d want to do is purposely make herself look unhinged. She was trying to manipulate him home by saying she left and kids were home alone. She had a long history of behaving that way- John told her the day before to quit blowing him up. I find this unflattering for her, but evidence against 2nd degree murder charge. She initially was pissed he went in, so started calling, then when he didn’t answer she let her mind run wild and got really pissed. Once he didn’t take kid bait… she got scared.
BENT JUDGE BENT TRIAL
INNOCENT DEFENDANT!
GUILTY 🤬
😂 okay
This bloke got his I go off the bloke who made it. So he went with something he had zero idea about till later. Fact is he is wrong.
Why is everything so small in this court room?! Dude barely fit on the stand!
It’s an old courtroom
Chris Farley vibes. I like this guy a lot.
I can’t unsee it 😂
This tech witness owes no Tech Debt to his profession. He Knows the Machine(s). Alternatively, the prosecutor knows how to bully; he is incapable of asking clear, concise and well structured questions. This Tech Witness however, never once got defensive w/the prosecutor. Alternatively, as soon as the Cell Tech Trooper was challenged you could see his ever-reddening-face contort into fight-mode; a rapidly-fired-up Tech Debtor coupled with a thin skin.
Karen is innocent
No she isn't.
Karen Read clearly ran over John O'Keefe with her SUV, then chose to leave John incapacitated on the ground with a fractured skull to freeze to death alone. All of the relevant evidence clearly proves this, and is unrefuted. The circus is designed to distract your attention away from the relevant evidence.
She definitely HIT. HIM!! She’s not getting away with it, give it time, Karma
@@jenreilly8058car going in reverse (10mph) will not kill someone if it did not run over. If he hit his head on something, different story. Where is the blood??
@@andrewdevine3920what evidence tells you she’s guilty? What about all of the evidence tampering that has been proven? How can you claim that that causes not even a small doubt? Surely you must be able to explain how you think the odds she is guilty are 100%.
This judge is UNREAL !!
It’s a shame he cannot speak clearly … this distracts from the importance of what he’s testifying to. Terrible
Well, the Prosicution sure knows how to walk through a field of Cow manure and then roll around in it.
Yeah, prosicution
How can so many experts have different answers just asking if their experts
Cause they don’t know jack.
Maybe it’s because they have a different interpretation of what could of happened.
Money :) Defense experts gets paid big bugs and lets be honest they will say whatever you want them to.
@@sher7251so do plaintiff’s experts
The defense is not paying for the experts, do-do. The FBI paid for them.
50:03 why judge needed to see council when asking “what percentage of calls deleted”????
Everyone in Canton. Hi, new phone who dis?
The question of whether she is guilty or not is overshadowed by the corruption and incompetence of the state and the LE involved.
soooo, are we to believe that Karen ran him over upon arrival. The family dog dragged his body inside the home and up and down the stairs, basement, first floor and second floor, then took him back outside to the fire hydrant (insert joke here) and left him to freeze to death and nobody inside the home noticed?
The defence attorney is not letting up … he’s a bulldog …
1:23:01 Look at the smirk on the court reporter.
Where is the Data showing the detailed location of Karen Vehicle?
That's how Alec Murdaugh was convicted.
The forensic expert mentioned that the 3 minute time difference for the waze app was "important". There was an objection that was sustained. Interesting the questioning attorney didn't press back on that. Sometimes a 1 second time difference may seem "important" to a forensic expert when performing an examination. The entire reason we have experts is so they can give their opinion and in this case, this is a very valid opinion that would be commonly made by forensic experts in the field of digital forensics. The courts / attorneys will only get better at dealing with this scientific data if there are discussions and not just simple dismissals by a judge who likely has zero understanding of how this stuff works. It is incumbent on the attorneys in the courtroom to press for further discussion in my opinion. Remember, experts are supposed to give opinions........... that's why they are called experts.
I know the internet searches were pretty damning in this trial........ searching for hypothermia and how long to die in cold. Kinda hard to get around that, but she did.
So when the McCabes left the Alberts home, where was O'Keefe... Then Later, he was found on the lawn???? Odd...
Can anyone tell me when the defence crash experts will testify, I'm travelling
Thank you
He's a brutal witness
I hope Karen goes after the Judge
Judges are can not be sued pertaining to the cases they sit on.
Online degrees!!!
You too can be a $1000 an hour expert, if you are willing to sell your soul to the highest bidder
Jen Mccabes call doesn’t matter that much. She didn’t kill John. Someone in her family did and after autopsy photos and dog bite testimony you’d have to b an idiot to still think this was intentional murder
She might as well because she's just as guilty for helping to cover it up.
@@jeanmariesmith1224bull dust. Stop the utter lies. Karen killed John. Karen isn’t important enough for a conspiracy and either is that house. Rocks in peoples heads
@@stevenprice6957any claims of conspiracy or cover-up etc are irrelevant. The evidence that exists doesn’t prove that John Okeefe was hit by a car, period. The cellphone data, meetings, conflicts of interest, and injuries to the victim leave enough reasonable doubt, but the botched and biased investigation ensured that this poor man’s family will never know what exactly happened to him
@@stevenprice6957 Guess you missed the ARCA testimony.
@@WomanofSteeleWoman of Steele. Great name. Karen must be the bionic woman as she had X-ray vision spotting they body in a blizzard in the Darkness under snow.
I’ll put it to you this way and I seriously get what you are saying. I believe strongly in science physics math etc.
1/3 of evidence is close to 33% correct ? To make a full 100% evaluation you need to look or have 33% at your disposal. Simple math tells you that.
They didn’t have vehicle data, they went with the skull fracture came from the car it’s self. They had no idea about weather speed etc. so what they were given, they are not even testing it they way. The state didn’t say her car collected his skull and it fractured. That came from being hit with force and cracking the back of his head on icy hard ground.
Also DNA. They had nothing about that,and I’m being generous about 1/3 of the evidence. It’s like a doctor ready to go into serious surgery and saying I’ve looked at 1/3 of your test results and I’ll guess it from here on in. Any professional wouldn’t do that. Even a carpenter. John’s DNA is inside the housing of the tail light ok. It’s a brand spanking new car. It was unbroken the morning before as shown at trial. So how on earth does his DNA get inside the housing ? He didn’t work at Lexus and build the car. Anyways look at 100% and then give an evaluation. Even then it’s just a highly qualified opinion. This was a rare event. Reversal is rare and it’s usually kids in driveways. This has a flat back end. It’s icy. The speed, the glass on his hand.. it’s like a fingerprint. None are ever the same exactly. The whole vehicle data was not given to them which is real fishy stuff. The acceleration etc. the drop in speed slightly with no foot release from 76% down. Consistent with a pedestrian hit. One of he main factors in the whole case is the tail light. Now at 4;50 she says to Jen McCabe after caught in her first lie of leaving him at the waterfall as they had a fight. She said my tail light is busted. Kaylee is there next to Karen. Karen is using her phone ok. So 2 witnesses to that comment at 4;50. We see it with a gaping hole at 5;07. How and where did they tail light break? It’s a very simple answer unless you break into a big foot conspiracy. John does not move after her reversal. His GPS says so. It’s built for military. War. Anyways. It’s a simple hit and run that’s turned into I don’t know what. 12 jurors have to agree and she has a lot of fans because of these made up fairy tails from many months ago. She will always be the killer. Will Justice be served? I’m not so sure. Also the state were so sloppy. I mean jurors are just people. They need to be shown in a Simple fashion. Time lines a chart ect. Anyway we all have opinions. I’ll just say to you if it’s truth you want. Then chose your truth. Ask questions and find the answers. Ask yourself this. Why has all that conspiracy stuff that they promised before trial been smashed to smithereens ? Google searches ? We know now what happened from the 2 works leading experts and one of them puts the actual program together. He had to teach Greene and Greene is likely up for perjury and has already apologised even on the stand. Unprofessional. They went with it anyway before trial to help ruin an innocent woman’s life. Her kids everything. I mean she may have a case against Greene with the damage that’s been done and continues to be done. This conspiracies cray makes money. So RUclipsrs are cashing in. It’s just wrong. A 17 year old kid at the time that’s not even at the house. Just ruin him. For gods sake even blaming a poor dog. The only dogs that don’t have DNA in bucket loads are Scooby doo and snoopy. Going up stairs etc. what a like away and before he’s web typed the damn address in 34 Fairview. Lol so he’s upstairs getting beaten and typing the address into waves is he? Man it’s a joke. He’s a mile away and Karen and John are probably fighting already. They sat out front for 8 mins. They weren’t playing board games were they.
He’s dead at 5 and Blames a plough at 5;01. 12:46 so 14 minutes after this incident she says where are you? Nobody knows where you are ? Say what Karen ? There’s a blizzard, what do you mean nobody knows where you are. He ain’t taking a midnight jog is he. She is correct about nobody likes where you are but she does. She wants John to answer that phone as her nightmare is growing by the minute. Then victim blaming again and lashed out as though it’s his fault. She said you F--g pervert. Just like she blames him 13 hours earlier when she said it’s your fault. You are setting me up to fail. He just wanted her to stop calling. You can tell he had had enough but sone men are somewhat soft and give in. Men get abused too you know. I’ve got 2 stab marks from many years ago and still have pain in my neck. I was like John. Too soft and put up with a crazy woman. Anyways. That’s my say. Apologies for my rant but I am a outtake passionate about this case. I feel for John and his family and those kids. Take care woman of Steele.
This guy is a clown
He did a better job testifying than Proctors side kick, the other trooper.
Guilty no doubt
I still don't believe Jen made that call. That would mean she thought John was alive and was wondering "jeez, i wonder how long it's going to take my friend to die?" If John was alive, wouldn't the Alberts thinks someone might have found him and he could tell them "they beat me". I think Karen asked Jen to search and how would Karen KNOW how long he been in the snow? If she's innocent, she wouldn't know how long he had been in the snow. Could of been 10 minutes. But she already knew he had been there all night. It seems people so convinced of her being framed, refuse to have an open mind.
Bless you heart
Jenn searched at 227 am Karen wasn’t there so
And those are bites and scratches from a dog
She didn't know how long he was in the snow but she knows what time she dropped him off at the Albert's house... It's obvious he was beaten in the house and dropped off on the lawn.. injuries aren't consistent with a vehicle strike..
@@roadking1779I agree 💯 with you.
She's got enough money to walk.
Give it time ,,, Justice is gonna be served! Karen Read guilty,, stated by her own words alone
Karen Read was acquitted of Murder You are using the words of Jennifer McCabe whom which The FBI and the Department Of Justice is coming After Next!
1. Brian Higgins
2. Brian Albert
3. Allison McCabe
Destroyed Cellphone Evidence
@@lisadavie5282 But the jury voted to convict 9-3 on dui/manslaughter.
Yes and they will convict next time
Richard Green has zero certifications in Cellebrite software and he offered no support for his conclusion that the search occurred 4 hours earlier. He also failed to even address the fact that another search of the youth basketball league that Jen McCabe's daughter was invited to join occurred at 2:27. You obviously cannot do two searches at the same time. Common sense says the young mother searched the basketball league and not how long will it take for my friend to freeze to death. Moreover, the jury saw with their own eyes how the time stamp from the log that tracks movement of tabs was erroneously applied to the log of internet searches. The jury observed a demonstration of it. There was one search at 2 27 am, of the youth basketball league. There was one search of "hos long..." and that search occurred at 6:24 am. Shame on lying Richard Green
The young mother… hahah
He was hired by the FBI
@@reneedeli989 Yeah...and?
@@milart12 he has way more knowledge and experience than you. Or the other clown they had up there
@@reneedeli989 Do you mean Ian Whiffin, who works for Cellebrite and Jessica Hyde? I guess that their testimony was a little over your head.
Everything this so-called expert is saying is the exact opposite of what the other expert said. The defense must be paying him very well...
THESE WITNESSES DO GET PAID... BUT... THIS WITNESS IS TELLING THE UNADAULTERATED TRUTH, WHEREAS ANY PAID WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION AND THE SO-CALLED EXPERTS FOR THE COPS TOLD FABRICATIONS AND HALF TRUTHS,, BASICALLY THEY LIED...
@@tommyg5095 lol!!! The whole of the trials in the USA are finally starting to crack down on all these high paid experts because they will say whatever is needed for money. Why do you think the judge vetted all thos experts so well on the defense side. They were BS in the vetting process
NO … EXPERT Data WITNESSES FOR STATE WAS SPECIALLY ASKED TO OPIN AN OPEN TAB IN SAFARIA. Next … Hyde used a Jail Broke iPhone for her Tests. Jen’s phone was not Jail Broken. Therefore, Hyde's testimony is useless because she didn’t test Apples to Apples. Next, the Trooper for state testified using IOS 15.8 whereas Jen's phone IOS was 15.2. Again state's data is useless. SO THATS WHY THE STATE WITNESSESS WERE CONFUSING TO EVERYBODY HAVING EARS THAT CAN HEAR.
ANY DATA THAT STATE HAD ACCESS TO THEY MANIPULATED THE DATA. PROOF .. COLIN ALBERT - Defense provided the photo of Colin Albert’s Freshly Scared knuckles. This pic … nobody from the Albert’s - Mccabes - and State had access to the Metadata. This prevented them from tampering with the picture. Remember that testimony or your selective memory chooses not to remember 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, that must be it 😂😂😂
@@tommyg5095 : This is why there is a trial. The judge and jury decide who is lying.