Bought this camera and the 4k 60fps is absolutely terrible. Not sharp at all and honestly looks like a 1080p camera that shoots 60fps. So disappointing. I hope B&H lets me send it back. I’ve been shooting with a c70 for almost 4 years now and I guess these little cameras are all hype.
Great video. Thanks for doing it! If you look at this camera for what it is, a stills-based hybrid, it's brilliant in all the right ways. IMO where so many get into trouble is when they define it as a video camera, which it is not. R5C is a video-based hybrid, as is A7S3, S1H, Xh2S, which are still inferior in some ways to bonafide video workhorses like C70, C300/500, Komodo, FX6, BMCCPCCMCCP6k (or whatever they are now) etc. R5ii is a stills hybrid. It overheats, doesn't have time code, doesn't have cinema features like a face only AF, still makes compromises with monitoring tool workflow, no fan, line skipped 4K60, wobbly IBIS...etc. Its a stills camera, and while it can shoot very nice video as well, the inclusion of a flatter log curve alone doesn't fundamentally make it a video camera.
The CFExpress Card you selected is definitely going to work, but you're limited to the CFExpress 2.0 speeds of the camera internally. You'll potentially see nice transfer speeds to your computer from that card with a card reader capable of using the CFExpress 4.0 standard speeds connected to a USB 4.0 port. Also, the real number you need to pay attention to isn't the maximum read/write speed - it is the minimum sustained transfer rate. This number for all cards is significantly lower than the maximum rate. The reason you can about that, especially in your usage of cameras, is because you have a large sustained stream of data that would be ruined if the card's minimum write speed dips below what the data stream rate happens to be. That being said, most name brand cards are going to perform to the minimum requirements of even the 8K RAW at 2600 Mbs = 325 MB/s. The OWC you purchased has a minimum write speed of 1500 MB/s, so you're more than covered and likely have speed not being utilized. I don't know the exact max speed the R5 II can leverage the CFExpress bus, but I doubt it tops 1000 MB/s and may actually be much lower since that extra speed translates into increased heat and the camera doesn't need more that 325 MB/s to handle its most demanding workload. Thanks for the early look at the R5 Mark II!
Thank you for the info! This is incredibly helpful. I picked this card up because of the price per gb and I have trusted the brand for years. I still need to pick up a few more cards so now that I know all of this, it is going to help me figure out what I actually need!
Great video! Definitely learned a lot. That’s a bummer about the battery situation. If you’re shooting video and using an older LPE6N battery, can you use usbc power delivery to get around the video limitations? With my R5C I can use usbc power delivery and still record 8K60 raw.
I was waiting for this camera all year but now leaning more towards the r5c. Biggest gripe is the need to purchase new batteries instead of using my existing canon batteries, plus the fact they didn’t fix the overheating which makes it unreliable for documentary work / interviews.
I think the R5C is absolutely the move for that! I can’t see myself using this as a B cam for long interview setups. At least initially. And yeah that battery situation stinks… I think they are going to get some big backlash about it once the camera starts getting into people’s hands and they realize.
Yeah the entire weekend I was like, this HAS to be just a firmware thing right? Like there’s no way they are going to do this again… So we will see! I’m staying optimistic until the day I (hopefully don’t have to) return it because of this issue haha. Thanks for watching the video 🤘
Because people will still buy all of Canon products regardless. I brought a FX3 in July 24 and ended up trading my R5 with all my L lenses for a A7RV with GM lens. Best decision ever no overheating, great dynamic range and image quality.
Must connect VMount to R5C but otherwise it's 100% reliable. R5 will never be reliable enough for professional work, especially in heat. Must need active cooling.
Active cooling is absolutely a must! My C70 spits air out like crazy to keep it moving. I am curious if any third party companies will release a more powerful cooling fan / cage for this, and if they do I wonder how it will perform in comparison to the R5C. I don't have high hopes for Canon's cooling grip.
Canon R5 Mark II batteries are out of stock already..... LP-E6P.. Amazon doesn't have them, BH doesn't have them and they are on Backorder on Canon's site... Pretty sad!!!
Great video! You could have easily just put the facetime call in an uninspiring way but you put a sick background with great lighting and perfect audio. Little things like this make a big difference!
I may be bias but i feel canon is just draining money from customers . The battery situation crazy to me. For the prices that they are charging i feel it should be an easy transition if you are already shooting canon .
You can’t have it both ways, you either want crappy battery life like the r5c with the old batteries or you want better battery life with more powerful batteries. When shooting all the powerful codecs it has you need a battery to handle it.
the battery design is ancient. This is just a case of a company trying to stick to a form factory too long. Even sony had to make new batteries eventually and mirrorless is no where near as old as lp -e6 which came out in 2008 i think.
@@RayValdezPhotography I dont know much about tech but it feels similar to the micro hdmi and I wonder why we cant have things like internal 32 bit audio recording and something similar to m.2 ssd in new cameras. I wonder if they actually do any rnd in these directions or they are too comfortable with what they know works.
Hello Jordan, I really liked your video and would like your opinion if you think that changing my canon R5 makes sense for R5 II Thank you and continuation of excellent videos!
I think it all comes down to how you’re using it! Is it mainly for photo? In that case I think (in my opinion) it’s not as much of an upgrade. If you’re using it mainly for video then there are a lot of great video upgrades. Clog 2, and the newer 10 bit codecs for me are the biggest selling point that I have been waiting for in this size camera.
@JordanPulmano I even use more for photography besides having other options for video until I like to make some short videos I want to thank you for helping a hug
Definitely think there will be a R5C ii This R5ii is more focused to photographers. I shoot 8K 24/30/60 raw st all day on my R5C with zero issues down here in South Florida 90+ degrees.
Just a quick point to this camera if you are a landscape shooter don't buy this camera. Repeat do not buy this camera. If you are a landscape photographer all these latest Canon videos not one of them. I've seen has mentioned landscape photography for one. It's got a flip out screen and landscape photographers hate that..... Has questionable dynamic range and I say questionable from the mini videos on RUclips. The dynamic range is not particularly great so yes for wildlife sports action people and video of course which basically this is a very very souped up video camera. If you are a photographer I would be looking somewhere somewhere else to be honest. That's just my view having looked at the specs and looked at mini videos over the last few weeks. If I'm a general photographer I wouldn't be spending this kind of mo, this is a pro body basically for pro sports people or pro video
What are your recommendations for a camera for landscape photography? I obviously don’t shoot that but could be helpful for anyone else watching this video that may be searching for info 🙌 Also, appreciate you watching the video!
What are you most excited for with this camera? What are you concerned about?
Ai video noise reduction
Bought this camera and the 4k 60fps is absolutely terrible. Not sharp at all and honestly looks like a 1080p camera that shoots 60fps. So disappointing. I hope B&H lets me send it back. I’ve been shooting with a c70 for almost 4 years now and I guess these little cameras are all hype.
Great video. Thanks for doing it!
If you look at this camera for what it is, a stills-based hybrid, it's brilliant in all the right ways. IMO where so many get into trouble is when they define it as a video camera, which it is not. R5C is a video-based hybrid, as is A7S3, S1H, Xh2S, which are still inferior in some ways to bonafide video workhorses like C70, C300/500, Komodo, FX6, BMCCPCCMCCP6k (or whatever they are now) etc.
R5ii is a stills hybrid. It overheats, doesn't have time code, doesn't have cinema features like a face only AF, still makes compromises with monitoring tool workflow, no fan, line skipped 4K60, wobbly IBIS...etc. Its a stills camera, and while it can shoot very nice video as well, the inclusion of a flatter log curve alone doesn't fundamentally make it a video camera.
The guy on the phone is questionable at best. He doesn't know the Nikon Z8 exist for 8K RAW internal and talks about shutter speed for line skipping
Great video! But what does shutter speed have to do with the “line skipped” issue?? 🤔
134.4 shutter speed took away the line skipping? Someone care to explain?
They are confusing line skipping and moire with flickering, they are not the same thing.
Yeah, two different things entirely.
The CFExpress Card you selected is definitely going to work, but you're limited to the CFExpress 2.0 speeds of the camera internally. You'll potentially see nice transfer speeds to your computer from that card with a card reader capable of using the CFExpress 4.0 standard speeds connected to a USB 4.0 port.
Also, the real number you need to pay attention to isn't the maximum read/write speed - it is the minimum sustained transfer rate. This number for all cards is significantly lower than the maximum rate. The reason you can about that, especially in your usage of cameras, is because you have a large sustained stream of data that would be ruined if the card's minimum write speed dips below what the data stream rate happens to be. That being said, most name brand cards are going to perform to the minimum requirements of even the 8K RAW at 2600 Mbs = 325 MB/s. The OWC you purchased has a minimum write speed of 1500 MB/s, so you're more than covered and likely have speed not being utilized. I don't know the exact max speed the R5 II can leverage the CFExpress bus, but I doubt it tops 1000 MB/s and may actually be much lower since that extra speed translates into increased heat and the camera doesn't need more that 325 MB/s to handle its most demanding workload.
Thanks for the early look at the R5 Mark II!
Thank you for the info! This is incredibly helpful. I picked this card up because of the price per gb and I have trusted the brand for years.
I still need to pick up a few more cards so now that I know all of this, it is going to help me figure out what I actually need!
If you use IBIS without digital IS at 24mm or higher is there wobble?
The hype is DEFINITELY real 🔥
Great video! Definitely learned a lot. That’s a bummer about the battery situation. If you’re shooting video and using an older LPE6N battery, can you use usbc power delivery to get around the video limitations? With my R5C I can use usbc power delivery and still record 8K60 raw.
the 30fps with their old batteries is such a let down. It needs to be addressed asap.
I’m not even a canon user but if Jordan drops a video, we are tuning in 👀
😭😭😭 you’re the best bro thank you
I was waiting for this camera all year but now leaning more towards the r5c. Biggest gripe is the need to purchase new batteries instead of using my existing canon batteries, plus the fact they didn’t fix the overheating which makes it unreliable for documentary work / interviews.
I think the R5C is absolutely the move for that! I can’t see myself using this as a B cam for long interview setups. At least initially.
And yeah that battery situation stinks… I think they are going to get some big backlash about it once the camera starts getting into people’s hands and they realize.
👏pumped for this camera!
I’m super excited! My first new mirrorless camera purchase in like 3 years so hopefully it holds up to the hype.
Why on earth is Canon producing the camera with same overheating issue, it’s like Canon doesn’t care about the reviews
Yeah the entire weekend I was like, this HAS to be just a firmware thing right? Like there’s no way they are going to do this again…
So we will see! I’m staying optimistic until the day I (hopefully don’t have to) return it because of this issue haha.
Thanks for watching the video 🤘
Because people will still buy all of Canon products regardless. I brought a FX3 in July 24 and ended up trading my R5 with all my L lenses for a A7RV with GM lens. Best decision ever no overheating, great dynamic range and image quality.
Must connect VMount to R5C but otherwise it's 100% reliable. R5 will never be reliable enough for professional work, especially in heat. Must need active cooling.
Active cooling is absolutely a must! My C70 spits air out like crazy to keep it moving. I am curious if any third party companies will release a more powerful cooling fan / cage for this, and if they do I wonder how it will perform in comparison to the R5C. I don't have high hopes for Canon's cooling grip.
Canon R5 Mark II batteries are out of stock already..... LP-E6P.. Amazon doesn't have them, BH doesn't have them and they are on Backorder on Canon's site... Pretty sad!!!
I wonder how many of these features will be in the R6 MK III? And whether that will also require new batteries 😕
How do you avoid the wobble? That’s not ok for video .
Informative video. Though there appear to be modest issues to smooth out, it sounds like the R5ii is off to a promising start.
Is the wobble only with wide lenses ?
I really wish that they can add apple pro res in the R52
Great video! You could have easily just put the facetime call in an uninspiring way but you put a sick background with great lighting and perfect audio. Little things like this make a big difference!
I appreciate you noticing! Thanks for watching 🙌
Old batteries, you don't have pre shoot so not all fonctionnalities for the photo side
Dynamic range in clog2?
I may be bias but i feel canon is just draining money from customers . The battery situation crazy to me. For the prices that they are charging i feel it should be an easy transition if you are already shooting canon .
I totally agree with you. For people who are years invested into those batteries, it’s such an annoying purchase to have to make…
Right
You can’t have it both ways, you either want crappy battery life like the r5c with the old batteries or you want better battery life with more powerful batteries.
When shooting all the powerful codecs it has you need a battery to handle it.
the battery design is ancient. This is just a case of a company trying to stick to a form factory too long. Even sony had to make new batteries eventually and mirrorless is no where near as old as lp -e6 which came out in 2008 i think.
@@RayValdezPhotography I dont know much about tech but it feels similar to the micro hdmi and I wonder why we cant have things like internal 32 bit audio recording and something similar to m.2 ssd in new cameras. I wonder if they actually do any rnd in these directions or they are too comfortable with what they know works.
Hello Jordan, I really liked your video and would like your opinion if you think that changing my canon R5 makes sense for R5 II Thank you and continuation of excellent videos!
I think it all comes down to how you’re using it! Is it mainly for photo? In that case I think (in my opinion) it’s not as much of an upgrade.
If you’re using it mainly for video then there are a lot of great video upgrades. Clog 2, and the newer 10 bit codecs for me are the biggest selling point that I have been waiting for in this size camera.
@JordanPulmano I even use more for photography besides having other options for video until I like to make some short videos I want to thank you for helping a hug
Definitely think there will be a R5C ii
This R5ii is more focused to photographers.
I shoot 8K 24/30/60 raw st all day on my R5C with zero issues down here in South Florida 90+ degrees.
Very curious what they will do with an R5Cii! I haven’t shot on it much but it is such a beast.
The R5C MKII (if it will come) will have the new sensor with an internal ND-filter and maybe 2x slots of CF-EXPRESS cards, but again without an IBIS.
@@iliaskapatos why no ibis?
@@iliaskapatosthat would be amazing if they did that! Maybe that’s the c70m2
Fingers crossed!
Just a quick point to this camera if you are a landscape shooter don't buy this camera. Repeat do not buy this camera. If you are a landscape photographer all these latest Canon videos not one of them. I've seen has mentioned landscape photography for one. It's got a flip out screen and landscape photographers hate that..... Has questionable dynamic range and I say questionable from the mini videos on RUclips. The dynamic range is not particularly great so yes for wildlife sports action people and video of course which basically this is a very very souped up video camera. If you are a photographer I would be looking somewhere somewhere else to be honest. That's just my view having looked at the specs and looked at mini videos over the last few weeks. If I'm a general photographer I wouldn't be spending this kind of mo, this is a pro body basically for pro sports people or pro video
What are your recommendations for a camera for landscape photography?
I obviously don’t shoot that but could be helpful for anyone else watching this video that may be searching for info 🙌
Also, appreciate you watching the video!
@@JordanPulmano Nikon D850, Fuji GFX 50S II Fuji 100s II Nikon Z8 Nikon Z7 ii
@@nevvanclarke9225what if you are a wedding photographer?
so you didn't test the cooling grip? ok
Nope was not available. Thinking about picking one up for when my R5 comes in to test it out!