That’s crazy. I know “new” Goodman (under Daikin ownership) isn’t Trane, but their quality control is much better than Lennox nowadays, seems to me from mine and others’ I know personal experience. Especially on coil manufacturing.
From palm springs ca you one of my favorite hvac creators the way you edit your videos and the way basically you do everything don’t let the super duper techs get to you with there B.S comments I pray you never stop making videos you make great content so thank you for doing it PS i never leave comments
imma civil engineer and dont know much about hvac except from what you get from living long enough or watching my favorite tech on this channel. can relate to the laid back, high quality, no bs approach. really enjoy it.
Ted, love your videos. Im not a professional at all. Just a homeowner who enjoys learning about your trade after having the exact problem in this video with my Ducane system (bought the house with it, ugh). My local tech wasnt even going to look for the leak with the UV, was just going to schedule an in depth leak search on a different day. After watching your videos and learning a thing or two i asked him to just check the pan right quick. Saw what we wanted to see in about 2 minutes and the tech was like "well damn i shoulda suggested that!" Ended up with a warranty replacement coil. Its just BS that these companies only warranty the part and the labor and gas is out of pocket for their poor quality control. I ended up with 3 leaks in that coil. Anyways keep the videos coming! I watch and enjoy them all!
Theodore another thing that comes with age is sarcasm, and brother you’ve done a wonderful job of embracing it. Take it from another old hvac (67) mechanic. Great job Theodore keep up the great work. 👍🇨🇦
I worked for a company in the 80,s . We sold Lennox had very few problems. The biggest problem we had when they used Bristol compressors . They were junk. Worked for a company later we sold York mostly heat pumps. They were extremely reliable then . Go cheaper in manufacturing now see the junk . Have a great day .
My Dad has been gone for many years and I also say things the way he talked for the same reason to remember him. I am lucky to still have some of his old tools and they also bring great memories when I use them.
No you’re a great technician and I do watch fully your videos no matter of what …. Nice work done man . I do residential maintenance work and slowly working up to become fully service technician it’s my first full year maintenance job.
sadly our Mitsubishi mini split systems on our house have been alot of trouble, mainly leaks, with several heads and compressor and boards being replaced within 4 years of new. We’ve been out of pocket for (so far based on invoices) 42lbs of 410 refrigerant……$$$
that timeframe of lennox and leaking? the evap. coil is smoked on the back side, where it either is rubbed/corroded out against an galvanized shield/foil backed insulation or very cloe to there via u bends and split joints. but by golly they got that tubing thin as paper and thermal transfer rates as high as possible >_>
17:34 there is "clear pvc" but it's properties are fairly different than standard white/gray pvc. that trap is likely is likely one step pvc cement/cleaner glued. bit they give it a very light whiff of a coating so it doesn't run/cloud/distort.
Yes, best to go with an evaporator I'd think. Maybe not a Lennox one, but a decent aftermarket brand if it will work. Might also be a good idea to route those line sets differently so they do not run along the door but away from it for service needs and access ! Some installers just don't see the logic. Good service for the neighbor friend too...
I imagine ive been doing this quite longer than me. im doing this 20 years.. These coil leaks are annoying because theres nothing you can do anymore usually. Less than 1 in 10 im able to weld now. Everything's all about replacement now. Its crazy cuz i bought and paid my house off doing warranty work wed never had to replace just repair. And the older systems didn't really leak like seemed like more most the time I was able to just weld the leak. And freon was so cheap if u had a condenser coil leak u just take the condenser motor out let the pressure blow it out welded it Gas and go. I don't really like the direction things have gone but all I can do is fall in line.
Where I come from, we burn the lights or maybe we cut them on, but we never turn them on! 😉 Something tells me they end up with new Trane equipment. Just a hunch 😂
Typically, a poor installation of HVAC equipment will give much future breakdowns. They need to run as they were designed to and the variables are big when considering the method for installation that some of the HVAC professionals seem to think is "good enough". Proper sizing, duct work, supply sizes, returns and their placement etc. Lots of times its not the brand, its the crew who set up the system.
that "yellow lens" is the glasses you're supposed to wear to "help" protect your eyes from the UV light and make it more visible glowing. if you use it too often/stare into it(or the sun) you'll go blind after a while(lol)
I noticed the same thing with my old Goodman Heat pump when the evaporator coil started leak alot of water was coming from the drain line and I knew it was leaking refrigerant.
Just a Joe Customer here. Paid for my second coil replacement in 10 years this week on a Lennox. So that's 3 coils in10 years. $2K and that was including a warranty coil. Yes I will be ripping it out an switching to another brand when it's time for that.
make sure you don't factor in the environmental contaminates... you're indoor air and local air qualities. 😉 it has a major effect of durability of ALL hvac equipment. things you cook, cleaning, skin, hair products, air fresheners, water treatment systems(chemical injection), burning candles(scented especially), off gassing of junk products. the list goes on and on. anything that causes acidic, alkali, salt or chlorine laden air. will quickly chew up coils.
As we grow older we gain experience, but also start forgetting things, annoyingly. All we can hope for is getting to have good judgement, which comes from experience... which comes from bad judgment....
ted not trying to be a super tech or nothing but i hope you at least did a once over of the outdoor unit with that light to see if you see any glowing as a trane tech my self my company has been seeing alot of evap and condenser coils both leaking by the aluminum joints that bond to the copper and junky lennoxs are just as bad for condenser coil leaks hate for ya to have to do the same repair twice
Ted I love your dye jug. Can you let me know how much dye do you put in based on different tonnage. This has got to be a cheaper route. Appreciate your time to answer my question. Love your vids.
Don’t worry. Lennox is one of the better and largest manufacturers of HVAC in North America. It has a bigger market share than Trane. They sell more so we see more. Not too long ago all Carrier evaporator coils were bad and leaked. Under any video showing a leak repair, you will read comments that oh this brands is bad and they all leak. The truth is installation plays a big role and I hope you got lucky on that front. I am a Trane and a Lennox dealer and I can tell you there is not a big difference between the two except when it comes to money😮
It appalls me when I see those yellow gas line's run like that, doesn't anybody take pride in their work anymore? I worked Construction for 40yrs., ran a lot of pipe and flex , and I made it look good, got lot's compliments on how nice my job's looked. Just saying.
As someone who’s had one of these Lennox systems before in the last 10 years they are absolute garbage. The parts are just weak and the heat from summers here in SC just run them into the ground.
Why are you putting on Old freon old 410A or whatever you want to call freon cuz I might be mistaken ain't that a recovery tank that you're hooking up to the unit
I would appreciate when you title these videos, if you didn’t put the final diagnosis in it. I’m learning hvac and like to watch these videos to try and diagnose the problem as it unfolds, it’s hard to do that when you already know the problem. Love the videos!
Your Contactor wasn’t closed. Lack of 24. Either an issue with low voltage, board, t-stat, or the obvious low charge. Bypass the limit. If the Contactor closes its a dead give away.
Lennox has the highest failure rate on the market. Those C33 series coils probably have over a 75% failure rate. It's ridiculous. 😵
If that is true, sounds like a juicy class action case.
Lennox is crap, can’t believe they are still in business.
That’s crazy. I know “new” Goodman (under Daikin ownership) isn’t Trane, but their quality control is much better than Lennox nowadays, seems to me from mine and others’ I know personal experience. Especially on coil manufacturing.
As a former Lennox dealer I can confirm...
Isn’t ADP brand of coils owned and made by Lennox? I find ADP coils to be good
From palm springs ca you one of my favorite hvac creators the way you edit your videos and the way basically you do everything don’t let the super duper techs get to you with there B.S comments I pray you never stop making videos you make great content so thank you for doing it PS i never leave comments
I really appreciate you watching !! Thank you very much for the kind words.
Is it 115 out there yet? 90 at night? That area must have some hard working HVAC folk with those conditions !
imma civil engineer and dont know much about hvac except from what you get from living long enough or watching my favorite tech on this channel. can relate to the laid back, high quality, no bs approach. really enjoy it.
Ted, love your videos. Im not a professional at all. Just a homeowner who enjoys learning about your trade after having the exact problem in this video with my Ducane system (bought the house with it, ugh). My local tech wasnt even going to look for the leak with the UV, was just going to schedule an in depth leak search on a different day. After watching your videos and learning a thing or two i asked him to just check the pan right quick. Saw what we wanted to see in about 2 minutes and the tech was like "well damn i shoulda suggested that!" Ended up with a warranty replacement coil. Its just BS that these companies only warranty the part and the labor and gas is out of pocket for their poor quality control. I ended up with 3 leaks in that coil. Anyways keep the videos coming! I watch and enjoy them all!
Theodore another thing that comes with age is sarcasm, and brother you’ve done a wonderful job of embracing it. Take it from another old hvac (67) mechanic. Great job Theodore keep up the great work. 👍🇨🇦
Good job,Ted. In my 37 yrs. in the field, the U V light was very helpful. I would use it when the electronic leak detector couldn't pick it up.
turn up the sensitivity and move around very slowly and block wind/stop air flow. they all need a big snoot full of gas to detect it.
Knowledge based on experience= Wisdom....you seem to be a very wise man.
I worked for a company in the 80,s . We sold Lennox had very few problems. The biggest problem we had when they used Bristol compressors . They were junk. Worked for a company later we sold York mostly heat pumps. They were extremely reliable then . Go cheaper in manufacturing now see the junk . Have a great day .
Thank you so much. I have learned so much from watching your videos from Texas
Realizing that you can know the limits of your experience, but not your wisdom IS a sign of wisdom. :)
Ted, keeping them cool in the Palmetto; delivering the good and bad news to the customer. Always good to hear the soft spoken southern gentleman. 😎
My Dad has been gone for many years and I also say things the way he talked for the same reason to remember him.
I am lucky to still have some of his old tools and they also bring great memories when I use them.
You might be old Ted but you still are the best.
No you’re a great technician and I do watch fully your videos no matter of what …. Nice work done man . I do residential maintenance work and slowly working up to become fully service technician it’s my first full year maintenance job.
sadly our Mitsubishi mini split systems on our house have been alot of trouble, mainly leaks, with several heads and compressor and boards being replaced within 4 years of new.
We’ve been out of pocket for (so far based on invoices) 42lbs of 410 refrigerant……$$$
that timeframe of lennox and leaking? the evap. coil is smoked on the back side, where it either is rubbed/corroded out against an galvanized shield/foil backed insulation or very cloe to there via u bends and split joints. but by golly they got that tubing thin as paper and thermal transfer rates as high as possible >_>
17:34 there is "clear pvc" but it's properties are fairly different than standard white/gray pvc. that trap is likely is likely one step pvc cement/cleaner glued. bit they give it a very light whiff of a coating so it doesn't run/cloud/distort.
Thanks for the videos Ted! I always enjoy watching, you are my favorite HVAC RUclipsr.
No more fast forwarding, your commentary is the best.
Wow, thanks!
Your a better tech than me so I watch & learn. Keep on with these vids & screw the naysayers. Thanks for allowing me to watch.
Good viewing Ted over her in Oz, you deserved a nice glass of Shiraz when arriving home 👍 Au
Yes, best to go with an evaporator I'd think. Maybe not a Lennox one, but a decent aftermarket brand if it will work. Might also be a good idea to route those line sets differently so they do not run along the door but away from it for service needs and access ! Some installers just don't see the logic. Good service for the neighbor friend too...
I imagine ive been doing this quite longer than me. im doing this 20 years.. These coil leaks are annoying because theres nothing you can do anymore usually. Less than 1 in 10 im able to weld now. Everything's all about replacement now. Its crazy cuz i bought and paid my house off doing warranty work wed never had to replace just repair. And the older systems didn't really leak like seemed like more most the time I was able to just weld the leak. And freon was so cheap if u had a condenser coil leak u just take the condenser motor out let the pressure blow it out welded it Gas and go. I don't really like the direction things have gone but all I can do is fall in line.
when u cant lug a 2ton compressor around then yes your getting too old for this.
your doing fine my man...
Where I come from, we burn the lights or maybe we cut them on, but we never turn them on! 😉
Something tells me they end up with new Trane equipment. Just a hunch 😂
I have Lennox equipment and never have had an issue. Lennox real big in my area.
Typically, a poor installation of HVAC equipment will give much future breakdowns. They need to run as they were designed to and the variables are big when considering the method for installation that some of the HVAC professionals seem to think is "good enough". Proper sizing, duct work, supply sizes, returns and their placement etc. Lots of times its not the brand, its the crew who set up the system.
❤ leaks are a 6 or 9 year hazard on R-410a seem like.
Ted, I hope you enjoyed your leisure time taking the rest of the day off. 😂
Yea Ted, I know what you are saying, I didn't get too old as much as I got too fed up.
I love this channel
Your buddy at the end of the video had the right idea .
that "yellow lens" is the glasses you're supposed to wear to "help" protect your eyes from the UV light and make it more visible glowing.
if you use it too often/stare into it(or the sun) you'll go blind after a while(lol)
I noticed the same thing with my old Goodman Heat pump when the evaporator coil started leak alot of water was coming from the drain line and I knew it was leaking refrigerant.
Just a Joe Customer here. Paid for my second coil replacement in 10 years this week on a Lennox. So that's 3 coils in10 years. $2K and that was including a warranty coil. Yes I will be ripping it out an switching to another brand when it's time for that.
make sure you don't factor in the environmental contaminates... you're indoor air and local air qualities. 😉 it has a major effect of durability of ALL hvac equipment.
things you cook, cleaning, skin, hair products, air fresheners, water treatment systems(chemical injection), burning candles(scented especially), off gassing of junk products. the list goes on and on. anything that causes acidic, alkali, salt or chlorine laden air. will quickly chew up coils.
As we grow older we gain experience, but also start forgetting things, annoyingly. All we can hope for is getting to have good judgement, which comes from experience... which comes from bad judgment....
Never judge a book.
Always fun to watch 👍
Mr. Ted I would hire you in a minute if you were here in northern WI. 👍😎
Glowing like radioactive
Ted I love your style. Been there done that right. What’s your go to leak detection system? Sorry if I missed it if you covered that topic 👍
ted not trying to be a super tech or nothing but i hope you at least did a once over of the outdoor unit with that light to see if you see any glowing as a trane tech my self my company has been seeing alot of evap and condenser coils both leaking by the aluminum joints that bond to the copper and junky lennoxs are just as bad for condenser coil leaks hate for ya to have to do the same repair twice
They should use all clear pipe if they are going to do it like that.
Good job helping out your friend. Gas n go
Nice work Ted.
Why do people give you a bad time? Dang, wish you were in my area!
Ted I love your dye jug. Can you let me know how much dye do you put in based on different tonnage. This has got to be a cheaper route. Appreciate your time to answer my question. Love your vids.
Does it take leaded or unleaded gAas??? 😎👍
gaAAAS
She's a leaker Momma!
NOOOOOOO … don’t say that about Lennox…..I just had a whole Lennox system installed…..😂😂
Don’t worry. Lennox is one of the better and largest manufacturers of HVAC in North America. It has a bigger market share than Trane. They sell more so we see more. Not too long ago all Carrier evaporator coils were bad and leaked. Under any video showing a leak repair, you will read comments that oh this brands is bad and they all leak. The truth is installation plays a big role and I hope you got lucky on that front. I am a Trane and a Lennox dealer and I can tell you there is not a big difference between the two except when it comes to money😮
Shoulda gotta Goodman!
It appalls me when I see those yellow gas line's run like that, doesn't anybody take pride in their work anymore? I worked Construction for 40yrs., ran a lot of pipe and flex , and I made it look good, got lot's compliments on how nice my job's looked. Just saying.
I agree and that drip leg serves zero purpose the way it is installed.
I always laugh at the guys who charge by weight with a leaking unit . Just get it running it still needs fixed properly .
Experience 👍🏼
Atta boy Dave.
As someone who’s had one of these Lennox systems before in the last 10 years they are absolute garbage. The parts are just weak and the heat from summers here in SC just run them into the ground.
Could be a Mouse chewing on a Thermostat Wire.
As Steve Lav says It's a Leka Momma.
A friend of mine would say tars instead of Tires Good vid my friend
I'm working on my oldest son's window unit and it needs gas.. 410a.
You always wish Dad was around! I do!
Lennox sure does sell a lot of product to be the highest failure rate, if that case how come the distributors push them?
Money
What is your feeling on the soft start modules such as the ICM870 Soft Start?
No scale?
Who the hell goes out a nite to work a A/C
Ted, what are those yellow cables you clamp on for?
Wow
Cap and go. ? We would never
In the words of Steve Lav " She's a leaka momma she's a leaka" I just dont know which ones leaks worse Goodman or Lennox.
They are all prone to leak including Trane. But in this case, In my opinion, Lennox is a much better AC than Goodman.
Does that uv light really work
Why are you putting on Old freon old 410A or whatever you want to call freon cuz I might be mistaken ain't that a recovery tank that you're hooking up to the unit
Is it oil or ooooooooil ? I say oooooooil....
Always check 24 at the low vapor wires coming in to save yourself a trip to the attic!
Bet it’s the evap coil lol.
I would appreciate when you title these videos, if you didn’t put the final diagnosis in it. I’m learning hvac and like to watch these videos to try and diagnose the problem as it unfolds, it’s hard to do that when you already know the problem.
Love the videos!
that's a you problem. you really expect him to dop a video and not reveal the diag?
I agree. Those clear ez traps are trash
You are funny 🎉
little tasty today
I would just be happy for you to call it refrigerants not Freon lol
Your Contactor wasn’t closed. Lack of 24. Either an issue with low voltage, board, t-stat, or the obvious low charge. Bypass the limit. If the Contactor closes its a dead give away.
You’re a little cranky about the comments today.
#gaytrap 😆👌