‘Ludicrous robes’: Anti-monarchists justify stance to Piers Morgan
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2023
- Sky News Australia host Piers Morgan clashed with anti-monarchy guests Graham Smith and Alex J. O’Connor as they argued the country should begin getting rid of the Royal family’s “ludicrous robes”.
Stop having deserving and intelligent adversaries on to debate if you are terrified of letting them speak and make a valid point.
Disappointed for the first time the way you acted in an interview, Morgan.
You did not allow them to put their point across, you keep cutting them off in every turn. BS interview. get over yourself and if you invite others to debate a subject, they should be given time to do so and not jump in every time they open their mouth just because you disagree with their point of view. We the audience are rubbed to hear both side.
I guess if Jordan Peterson watched this interview, would have called you a narcissist and a bigot.
As I said, disappointing
You never heard the fat tw t do this before? He cannot stand to hear another person speak. The worlds worst interviewer.
Morgan always does this. He's just hell bent on not listening. I agree with him 70% of the time, but he's wrong 30% of the time.
really? this is the first time for you?
For the first time? Sounds like cope to me 😂
And even with the little they said, they still completely destroyed him. "I have information and facts that prove royal family doesn't affect tourism"
Pierce: "I disagree."
They really thought this was a good idea?
Piers Morgan isn't a particularly bright individual, he's just loud.
He couldn't take on one of them if they were drunk, let alone both at the same time.
I am quite dissapointed with Piers' conduct on this occasion.
1. Anti-monarchists state that they believe that the monarchy is undemocratic, corrupt, low quality leadership and gives too much power to one person. Piers replies asking about how the monarchy have a popular global image, but this does not address the republicans' original concerns.
2. The republicans claim that few British people care about the monarch. Piers replies about how royal events represent Britain in a positive light to the world, implying that global perception is of great importance, but again, this does not address the claim of low domestic popularity,
3. The republicans respond about how a few events do not justify the monarchy's scandals, and about how Piers fiercely criticised MPs spending public money on their own extravagance, while the monarchy does the same. Piers responds about how the monarchs deserve that money because they give that money to charity. However, this did not convince me because that money could have just not been taxed, helping poor people. The republicans also respond about how they could give charity as a private citizen.
4. Piers states that they need wealth to be a royal family to keep up the "magic". Piers did not explain why something "magical" needs millions of pounds annually.
5. They then argue about robes, which was kinda funny.
6. In terms of tourism, the republicans argue that the monarchy do not bring much money, while Piers does. It's very much one's word against another's, but the republicans were able to give specific examples, like Cheshire zoo.
7. Piers talk about William's campaign against homelessness, the republicans suggest that the monarchy money could be diverted to help homeless people, but piers uses ad hominem to suggest that they dont care about the homeless.
8. The republicans claim that a monarchy is not required to solve problems, and piers calls them "negative" people, and that they should "ignore" it. However, the reason Piers invited them was because of their anti-monarchist views, so he could discuss them.
9. piers then states that the monarchy is purely ceremonious, but he does not prove why, and does not address a lot of the earlier concerns.
10. They bet £10 at the end, that was also pretty funny.
I do find Piers morgan and his interviews interesting, but he did not really convince me of his side this time.
Can you come to turkey? Cheers
It's fascinating to watch Piers say completely meaningless points with the confidence of someone who is delivering a debate-ending zinger
I love how Pires respectfully listens instead of talking over his guests whose assigned role was to prove him wrong through argumentative points; giving them a deserving opportunity to “prove him wrong”.
he didnt do that this debate lol
@@josiahsmith7059 it was sarcasm 🤣
I loved that he didnt interfere after every sentence.
@@cincyaadi hahaha yea. Not at all. He is such a respectful and attentive listener.
Piers if you have people on your show , let them talk stop always interrupting.
Morgan wakes up every day thinking "which is it gonna be today: Meghan or trans people?"
lol, or vegans
07:11
Alex: Piers, that's the most ludicrous thing you've said on the show and that's saying a lot.
Piers: The bar is low I agree.
Did Piers just self-roast? Or is he too dense to realise that he self-roasted?
What he meant was: if THAT was the most ludicrous thing he has said, then the bar for his most ludicrous statement is quite tame. He’s claiming that his claim is not actually ludicrous, and using this claim to get back at the opposition and turning it into a compliment, as this would imply all his prior statements could never get worse than such a tamely ludicrous statement. Regardless of whether or not his claim is ludicrous or not, it was definitely not a self roast as his intention was not in that direction
@@areyousrsrightneowbro It surely wasnt his intend. But he also doesnt intend being the dumbass he is so whats your point?
Listen to the noisy bossy Piers talk over everyone. In Australian we don’t want this old feudal class system
Its remarkable Piers morgan is still relevant.
To?
The royals own massive land, fishing, mineral and oil rights in England, along with a large portion of its treasures, which all should be returned to the people who were abused to get it.
Who are these people who were abused and how were they abused?
@@NoWindNoSunNoPowereveryone
@@NoWindNoSunNoPower Nigeria for example
Then I think we should dissolve the country of Mongolia because Genghis Khan began to massacre newly conquered peoples of the Mongol Empire.
The future is now old man.
@@NoWindNoSunNoPowerthe irish, welsh, english, scotts, south africans, namibians, nigerians, irakis, indians, and the list goes on and on
Piers is definitely not afraid to look stupid, I'll give him that...
Those disliking Piers’ conduct, this is how he ALWAYS debates an opposing view to his own. You just don’t realise it because you’re usually blinded by favour of his view. Now you disagree.
Piers refuses to listen to anybody. He will never learn anything if he doesn’t listen!
They definitely proved Piers wrong, even though he was trying very hard not to let them speak their minds. And, as usual, Piers Morgan was very disrespectful for his guests.
GB is stuck 1,000 years in the past. It's not preserving tradition, it's a failure to move into the future. Of course PM defends the Monarchy, he's all about that nose in the air superiority and "I'm never wrong about anything." Do you want to know why PM is always right? Because he says so.
Yet the monarchy is very different to 1000 years ago.
@@NoWindNoSunNoPower Did you watch the coronation, they talked about how many of the rituals were traditional from hundreds of years ago? The people are different, the buildings they live in are merely refurbished, the paintings are original, the furniture is about as old fashioned as it gets. The way they see us and the world is very similar to the past. How is it VERY different. Their everyday clothes are new and their food, everything else is the same as hundreds of year ago. The monarch is not very different from the distant past, it's why Princess Diana didn't fit in.
@@NoWindNoSunNoPowerif you like them so much, why dont you pay the £50 million out of your own pocket🤡?
@@clairerobin6207We are the most hypocritical country on this earth, second would probably be China.
As an American I can confirm that I view the royal family’s costumes as gawd damn hilarious 🤡🤡
Piers Morgan lives in such a bubble; He needs to get his butt off that chair and go and visit Indian and Caribbean and ask them people about the Monarchy!
We are in the hole for 20 million but the Monarchy are worth every penny ?
Tell that to the people who que outside my flat every friday for the food bank
You know Graham and Alex have a valid point. We should think about it
They're idiots
Piers looked stressed in this debate lol
I'm Canadian and I believe it should be abolished. Here in Canada even if we buy our own property, it's still not ours the land still belongs to the King. They've gotta go
They can commit any crime and can not be charged, they pay no taxes while the rest of us do. What are they good for.
If not abolish, then let England have them and release Canada from the common wealth.
Not true.
1. Canada is a fully sovereign state that leave or remain in the Commonwealth should they wish to.
2. The Canadian and British Monarchy are two separate institutions, it just so happens that both institutions are led by the same person.
3. The Monarch and Royal Family do pay taxes.
4. Private property is not Royal property.
5. You don’t pay taxes to the Monarchy, you pay them to the Government.
Are there any other false information you’d like me to correct for you?
@@helsby1797yes it is🤡. Royals are scum. Theyve been before and they still are. The fact that the rats are hiding in the sewers foesnt mean there are no rats at all
@@Halal_Lettucethe royal fammily isnt required to pay taxes🤡 and yes, every bit of land inside the commonwealth belongs to the royal fammily, and they can legally take it anytime they want. And noww youre gonna say "uuuuh, but they dont really do that" which is completely irrelevant; nobody should have that kind of power, be it de facto or on paper. And yes, they ARE inmune to the law, as we could clearly see with diana's "accident" or that pedophile andrew
I'm Canadian and the King's role in our government is ceremonial, as much as it's ceremonial in other commonwealth countries. I have made this comparison before when I made a teenager only to find out it was false.
We don’t know the security cost for the Windsors. There is a court case running just now and the argument is it could cause a security breach if potential attackers knew the how much this security cost. The taxpayers are entitled to know that figure as we pay for it.
“So you don’t like the homeless.”
“So you don’t like the homeless.”
“So you don’t like the homeless.”
-Piers, afraid to actually listen because he’s got no good arguments
Peirs’ notes preparing for an interview: “knockdown straw men and yell over everyone”.
And this is a real world example of why anti-theism exists
I can tell you as a South African no one gives a toss about the Royal Family
India loves the British monarchy? Is this guy high or something??! XD bro I am Indian and generations have starved to death and overcome 200 years of slavery under British empire.....Piers morgan is living in a fantasy world lol
Yes, Piers, no other countries have traditions or tourism. Brava. Excellent maneuver.
Graham is brilliant in explaining how democracy works
from the outset, you can pin point the moment Piers says in his head 'Shiiiiiiiiiit! he has a brain, eh, "what have you got against the monarchy?" *phew, stopped him before he said something academic*
"I have information and facts that prove royal family doesn't affect tourism"
Pierce: "I disagree, you're just haters."
Sums up Pierce Morgan's interviews in a nutshell
A class system can never be any good!
Of course every family needs Nine Palaces and maintained by their Serfs.
“God save him”
Very out of character for you Alex 😅
I think piers is infatuated with someone in the royal family.
This was a typical Morgan interview - Morgan speaks 90% of the time.
Piers interrupts every time they try to make their point.
Bad manners from a suck up to the establishment.
Pires normally switched in, but got seriously rattled by these two. This "new" segment was not what it promised. Instead it was just Pires shouting and interjecting for 9 minutes
I think piers used a goofy sound to cut the anti-monarchist in a funny/ironic way.
It makes it funnier, that he was the one who got cut by it.
lol
What is the point of having a time limit if you're not willing to let them explain their point, this man is a joke
Piers is "denial" personified XD What a clown
I hate Piers too much to watch this.. thumbs down
Rupert likes him!
@@englishstark6100so does prince Andrews!
Thank you
What kind of debate is this? Is there an audience that votes on who wins? No, you’re trying to convince a guy who’s basically payed to have this opinion and has control of the broadcast. It’s also too gamified to be a discussion.
How many people watch Piers because its car crash TV? Probably Britain's biggest bigot . Can someone do a Venn diagram with flat earthers. Apologies to flat earthers 😅
Do they see the money back in the economy?? Or is it that just want they spend??
P.s nobody cares after we go about our days😂😂😂 just put them in regular clothing🤷🏻♂️🤣
What a dumpster fire
An absolutely terrible interviewer.
There privileged cartoons with no real power
Royal clauns paid by people
3.37 Absolute spot on. I had some respect for Piers before I watched this.
What if England keeps a monarchy but let the people vote on who that should be. Maybe not serve more than a 2 year term and then you're out and have to give someone else a turn.
What you are describing is not a monarchy. That would be a republic, which is what these guys are advocating for.
@@a.a9021 yes that was my point.
@@Givemeliberty30 Oh thank god
The problem is when these people were at school & college, no teacher explained to them of how in today's modern world the UK's Head of State became the people's backstop stopping MP's from taking over complete control over what is a very wonderful country that is tolerant, caring, loving & an endearing part of the Free World, no matter what politician's or newspapers say & bearing in mind how lazy, wasteful & unhelpful most of today's MP's are, it's a blooming good job the UK still has a Head of State. This backstop the people of UK have to keep their country free, combines with the truth that most folk in the UK are neither of the left nor of the right, but are of the Centre Ground. They know the left is crap & the right is crap. how many countries in the World have such a backstop, few & to most folk living on these Islands the Head of State in the UK is worth all the money in the World. Understand that & you'll come to understand the majority of people UK & what the UK has become & all that the people here need now is to turn the House of Lords into an elected representative chamber that can investigate anything they want to look into. This would be very healthy for democracy in the UK. We have the tools so stop shouting & get on with what is best for everyone in the UK.
EYE ROLL.
Eye roll and a sigh.
yadda yadda yadda. I am so tired of this debate
i mean, it can end once the royal family stop having positions of power
The guest on the left is the physical incarnation of the expression "smart Alec"
Just makes points about it being outdated. Valid points.
Smart Alex* 🤣
Piers is right me and my slassmates were watching the funeral and coronation instead of school classes because those events are once in life time and you can not put pricetag on them. I am not even from GB and I feel offended by those morrons.
Long live the king and whole Britain
Maybe you should go back to school & lean grammar & spelling .It is my classmates and I!
this just seems like you want the monarchy to stay so you have a better chance of skipping classes
@@ConstantDerivative yeah totaly true :-)
@@dapawaplean grammar? 🤣🤣 Oh the irony. But aside from that I agree with your point
We need monarchy
Did you even watch the video?
I agree in principle with the Republicans but they leave out the essential ingredient, which is that a monarch unites us all as a nation but politicians divide us. I didn’t like the gaudy Coronation. I hate all the virtue-signalling but I am a patriot and the strength of our unity matters more than the irritations about the the unfairness of monarchy.
Clearly it doesn't unite royalists and anti monarchists.
Why didnt previous european monarchs not unite their people ?
I visited Britain in 2015, I wanted to see all the Royal stuff! All the guards, Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle. You name it, I wanted to see it. And I spent Plenty of money while there!
And those things will all still be there after we ditch the royal perverts.
@@merrickforrester5238 Really? Why would they? The Royal Guards? Guarding who it what? Sounds like allot of sour grapes to me. It’s history…. And you are the only one who has it like that. We come to see living history. You just don’t get it.
@@cababyboomerq6012 Versailles is still an insanely popular tourist attraction longer after all the french royals are gone. It makes no difference to have a royal family hidden inside. You are not going to see them anyway. In fact, now it’s an even better attraction because you actually get to go inside instead of just standing outside
@@Sebbir I see your point. But it just isn’t the same. The English didn’t behead their Aristocracy. They survived, despite all the odds. History……. It is part of the draw for tourists in my opinion. It was for me. Although I did go to where Anne Boleyn got beheaded…. But again, history….. the Kings and Queens of England run through centuries of history. Who else has one like Britain? No one. Everyone knows they are just a figure head. They have no real power.
@@cababyboomerq6012 You could still hire those people to act as the appearance of what this would look like, but you dont need a royal family to justify that.
Unless Im mistaken, you didnt actually see the royal family and the guards role would just be to protect those said locations, rather than locations + royal family.
And again, all the royal stuff will cost us money. even if you specifically want to see that, i doubt thats the case for most people. And again, this still isnt really the point. The main point is that they shouldnt be an official office based purely on their birth, rather than their competency. Just because Elizabeth did good doesnt mean her successors will be, and in fact probably wont be.
It's not just England but the whole commonwealth. Stop thinking of just yourselves it's for all of us. Good call Piers.
I live in NZ and no one here except my Grandmother respect the monarchy or have any positive views of it. Everyone I talk to (apart from my Grandmother of course) either can't stand the idea of a monarchy or just think its a little bit silly.
A lot of commonwealth don't like them, they represent colonisation
what about andrew!!!!? pierce so obsessed w megan markle but andrew is actually a member of the royal family. also the queen paid off his accuser.
We need a little bit of fantasy ❤
It's their fantasy. You don't get to live in it.
That's what a film is there for. This little brand called Disney makes tons of the things about Kings, Queens, Princesses etc.
But we shouldn't have our taxes on fantasy
Sunak? Johnson? Who care about them? By the way I am not a british and I love UK because of The Queen Elizabeth II.
@@KarmaGoodDeeds her legacy is forever alive
The royals family is represented the history of the English monarchy and its commonwealth in England 🏴 and the royal family represents the history of the British country…. The royal family is a institution that has always stood for English heritage…. The prime minister’s office charges every election 🗳️ and the royal family remains the same. Shame on those young liberals who don’t understand how great the system of British system it is…. Those young people who’s liberal views are nauseous and sick…. Incredible how much they don’t know about their country.
God’s Save the King 👑
The British did a lot of things in the past (a lot of them not good). Those ideas more often than not belong in a museum.
But indeed its nice to know that you support an indiviual who can literally get away with murder. Their page online says they promise not to, but I could also promise not to murder. The point is, if I actually did murder someone, I would be sent to prison. With Charles, this isnt the case, hes just allowed to kill people if he wants to.
Also, I dont agree with the king/queen having more influence over the prime minster, with regular meetings.
I support democracy. And being a monarchist essentially denies you of fully supporting this system.
If the king/queens want to be celebrities, then fine. But make them regular private citizens that have to follow the same rules as the rest of us mortals, with no additionals legal powers/benefits.
Piers is really the best guy to be running a talk show
Good for Piers, of course its worth the money
Nope
Not true, did you even watch the video?
The monarchy is one of the very few Great things GB has left.
It's the main reason one day I'll go to GB.
From Aus.
If you think that's the best we have then you know nothing about us.
@@childfreegamer8840 Maybe I should have said 'special' or something to that effect. To each their own.
it's always the ugly ones.. ugly on the outside means ugly on the inside
Piers, you mean?
The shape shifting lizards most be defended at all cost!
Royal Family is identity of UK, otherwise sorry yo say, UK is no differences with Singapore, Malaysia South Africa, Iran, who care about them? British Royal is a very strong identity
LEAVE THE ROYAL FAMILY ALONE
They should leave our taxes alone
Hilarious! Graham Smith is clueless and Alex J. O’Connor is just plain thick.
You mean piers Morgan is thick
Im Australian and many of us dont want the Commonwealth
schwab's minions all at work in the comments I see...he did hire 1000s of them to sway opinion - his harry andmeghan attempt failed hey
Your king is literally a WEF affiliate