Auto is fantastic if you live in big cities like LA, NY, etc. No way I'm doing manual again in 2.5hr traffic in Los Angeles (had a manual 2 Door 2017 GTI). Plus, it's my money, I can do whatever I want with it.
So true, I was scared of people calling it slow( it kinda is ) ,but at the end of the day I’m the one driving it . Definitely one of the best affordable modern RWD sports cars.
one of my friends owns an automatic sports car and people tell him he doesn't "deserve it" because he didn't get for the manual. you know what he tells them? "why would you be so upset over a car that isn't yours unless you were jealous?"
Oh it's fucking simple. Because he is part of the problem. Less people buying manuals means less manuals get made. by buying a sports car in auto he is just contributing to the problem. Same reason people get mad and mobile game players or gotcha game players.
@@penguinmaster7 Christ maybe dont use words when you dont know what they mean. Its not gatekeeping to say that he is contributing to the lack of manual transmission options. Its basic fucking market forces like how manufacturers are pouring money into SUVs instead of sedans, wagons, or coupes.
@@ferretsmiles you want to drive a manual? fine, but some people don't or can't. telling them that they're not allowed to drive a car they like specifically because of that, by definition, is gatekeeping. let people drive what they like, especially when you can't do jack shit about it. it's honestly funny how you think you have any influence at all on what people will get. people like you should be driving camrys, not 86s.
@@ferretsmilesthere is plenty of manuals that will continue to be made. You’re over exaggerating. Support manuals and support autos. That’s all there is to it. Stop crying.
@@shamchang9895 horses for courses. I have an auto for work but I love nothing more car wise than going out in my 86 manual and changing gear far far too often 🤣 but I would not want to drive a manual in loads of traffic all the time
I actually just bought my auto GR86 this past weekend and I can’t stop smiling while driving. Don’t know how to drive a manual but idc I like the auto!
I have an automatic and get so much hate for it BUT I love it and I don’t regret buying an Auto, yes Manual is more fun but not when I drive everyday in traffic. Soooo many people gave me crap about why I should have gotten manual. What makes is worse is that I’m a girl so I get a lot of negative stuff said to me. It’s so draining because I don’t care. Apparently having an Automatic makes you not a car enthusiast. :(
yea it just disappoints a lot of ppl. not issue with it. u do ur ur thang, also sick u have a little gr86, ur an enthusiast bc u like ur car and u like driving.
Man i feel you . i plan on getting a gr 86 or supra in a year or two. but im scared people gonna shit on me. i wasnt taught how to do manaul nor do i care enough to learn because im not car car personl. but if i did get gr 86 i would want to get it customize with street hunter wide body kit and i just if i do that people really gonna hound my ass calling me fake car person or etc im just like dawg can i not want a nice looking car for myself thats cheap
nah its the toxic car community these days . older generations don't care , those who hate on u driving an auto are not real car enthusiast they are posers
Not true. Had manuals but when dealing with serious power + Manual. It's darn near dangerous to take your hand off the wheel. Hence more cars are going with DSGs when dealing with 600+ HP
biggest true ever. I learnt on an auto as many zoomers do, but I had to learn manual for a job and I just instantly fell in love. not just sports cars, but i really enjoyed driving the hino light truck and delivery vans with a stick and other people's econoboxes as well.
I went from a golf r turbo swapped MT mk7 gti to a 2023 MT BRZ. Highly recommend, will never go back. Only 200lbs later then the gti but the rwd sport car balance makes such a difference!
That's crazy because I went from a mk5 GTI (with some bolt ons and ECU tune) to a '23 MT GR86. I think both cars are fun for their own purposes and would love to have another GTI again just for daily driving and raw power, while keeping the GR86 for weekend touge drives
@@davejohnson6144 ya it’s definitely a lot slower but I don’t think anyone looking at buying a BRZ cares about speed in that way. The feeling of driving and driver skill matters a lot more in BRZ and I find it very rewarding!
I've owned my GR86 in automatic for about a year and a half now, same situation. lots of traffic on highways even. its just more comfortable to me to not have to play 1-2 all the time. Been there, done that, don't need to do it again lol.
I live 5 blocks from your friend and I’ve never seen his GR! Glad to know there’s someone else in the neighborhood with the same car except mine’s a manual
Just bought a 22 gr86 premium with auto. Its the perfect daily that isnt a pain in traffic. No one roasts me since i have a 500whp k20 swapped mini cooper for a weekend toy lol
maybe I have bad taste but I actually like how they look and actually like 90s basic stuff too. I don't like fancy newer stuff, especially nothing from BWM/Mercedes/Lexus
Great vid! I daily my 22 GR86 6AT w 17k mi so far, 3 track days and its been such a fun car. Its my first rwd sports coupe and the lightweight to power ratio compliments this car well. Personally not worried about RTV, and just keeping stock until warranty is up, and driving as intended. This is a great platform in both 6AT and 6MT, depending on personal preference
I learned how to drive manual on an '80s Ford Probe, and I liked it. But let me tell you ... once I experienced paddle-shifting, it opened up a whole new world. You get the control of shifting exactly when you want to and keep the feel of being directly connected to the engine and the wheels, without having to tap-dance with the pedals. The only time this car isn't in Manual mode is when it's in Park or Reverse. I bought my 2016 BRZ Limited Auto (paddle shift) in 2022. I wanted first-gen because I don't like the duck-bill spoiler on the second-gen. Even the extra horsepower and torque wasn't enough to sway me to get the newer version. Mine was also a great buy, as it only had 13.8k miles on the odometer and it had a clean title. I love driving this car, even during Minnesota winters. It's absolutely the best car I've ever had. My new transmission preferences: 1. Paddle-shift Auto 2. Manual 3. Auto
Funny to see ya in that parking lot, I wandered round that garage cuz i had to wait 20 min for an attendant once, its crazy the stuff they got hidden under the dust
When I bought my 86, I had the dealer disable the fake engine noise. If you wanna do it yourself you can easily do it by popping the passenger side end cap for the desh (touches the door when closed) and unplugging it.
The GR86 is amazing to drive, transmission is personal preference, got a Trueno Blue premium recently for 29k out the door had snow tires thrown in the deal with 3k miles on the car and a 6 speed manual, honestly it’s been a blast, it’s odd to go from a FWD Corolla to RWD, but honestly the car is great no matter the trans type my preference was manual cuz every car I’ve had since I’ve started driving was manual, I’ve driven both a auto and manual GR86 both were great, it just comes down to preference, affordability and availability honestly. Looking forward to the 86 in the snow
Yeah I had a 2018 BMW M2, clean title, 1 owner, 40k miles for a couple years and I was paying $780 a month for that. Absolutely no hate for this guy's decision but man... the used market if you're patient is a powerful tool
If you did have a manual, you would NOT wanna rest your hand on the stick as you mentioned. The way a manual works is, There are shift collars between 2 gears, so 3rd and 4th for example.. That is always spinning., When you’re in gear, the collar is locked to one or the other ( 3rd or 4th in this case). Your shifter is attached to a shift fork, which rides right in the middle of that collar. Just kind of floating on a film of oil. If you rest your hand on the gearshift, and are putting any pressure at all, the shift fork is now applying that pressure to one side of the collar. This will cause Wear which could lead to your transmission to start popping out of gear after period of time…
Haven’t had any experience with any of your choices but I considered a gr corolla myself , the AWD 300 hp sounded convincing some of them also have the 30:70 drive mode where u can put most of the power in the rear turning it rwd and possibly slide the car pretty neat
I own the exact same car. If youre looking for a luxurious modern interior, this really isnt it. If its your daily the automatic is the way to go. Also one of the best looking cars on the road
I'm on my second one I like them so much. Had the 2015 FRS and it was a sound reliable car that was fun to drive and great fuel mileage. I just upgraded to the 24 GR86 and love it. I use mine as a commuter car to work so dont want a V8 turbo. I might as well drive my 3\4 ton truck for the fuel mileage those get. The 86 is perfect for what it was built for.
@@LucasHuang nahhh dealers in NYC always try to screw me over, also it was very hard to find as they kept selling out so quick. I bought it in Virginia. I know pretty far 😅 and yes it was MSRP
Looking to get one of these to replace the Jetta I've had since college, been looking to order an automatic one. Thank you for making a video like this so I can get more info about the auto one. I work in the downtown area of where I live, and automatics are a must around here, especially with people that drive like idiots around. No indicators or anything half the time.
Best brand new sports car under 40k is def the Elantra N. 34k and handles better than wrx, gr Corolla, and golf R and is faster in a straight line than the type R all for a lot cheaper
My predicament right now. I would love to get a manual GR86, but I don't know anyone who knows how to drive a manual or have a car with a manual to even practice on. I'm wondering if I should just get an automatic or try to make friends with strangers online and try to meet them in the city so they can teach me.
I got an automatic one as well, and I use it as my daily, and I go back and forth on which version I should have gotten, in all honestly the Auto version is still really fun to drive and I don’t track or try to drift enough to really justify owning the manual version, I think if I ever want to track it I’d just get an old FRS
My first Manual car, I burned the clutch out within 24 hours. I was basically doing too much. Paid 700 for a new clutch. I was good after that. I’d want a Manual gr86. But auto is better if someone else might need to drive your car for you
Ive driven manual in NYC for > 5 years, it's honestly not as difficult as people make it out to be lol. It's the slightest of extra work in traffic for a significantly more engaging driving experience for when you want it 😌
@@eugenewang4650 for a couple hundred more a month he coulda been in a used F series M car haha. These cars awesome but I don't know if theyre 30k + awesome. Wasn't the original FRS/BRZ 25k brand new? Miss those days.
@@KandP69 I own a 2017 gen 1.5 86 i bought new. main draw for me was how cheap it was even compared to the miata. $30k AUD brand new, even a base corolla was $30k at the time. No way id buy a GR86 given how theres a lot more competition at its current price point like the elantra/i30 N or WRX.
Peak torque in the stock car is at 3700 RPM’s, so an automatic will likely upshift before that point. If you go into manual mode and upshift late, you should probably feel more force than if you drive on the normal automatic setting.
damn man I was actually cross checking gti mk8 it looks so good in person and I was shocked when you said you're trying to replace your gti with gr86 etc
Yoo I have the same issue with CarPlay. When it doesn’t work off the cold start, you gotta reboot the infotainment by holding both knobs simultaneously (No Diddy).
I had an auto BRZ for 8 years before switching to a manual BRZ. The auto was good but the manual is definitely for me and wish I had gotten a manual earlier. It took me about a month to get used to manual but it’s fine for me since I rarely commute in it.
I had 2017 86 auto for 3 years. To be honest I love my car looks but I'm disappointed for everyday driving it, It becomes getting boring every day specially at the free way my car feel so slow even minivan can pass me😅 let's admit it 86/brz are slow for sportscar. But I enjoyed it for 3 years then I sold it and I bought my chicane yellow 370z MT. Any I'm so happy driving it everyday❤ no regret
When he said over $800 a month lmao... It made me feel better about my $600 a month for my manual 2024 BRZ. If you're paying more than that then back out of the deal immediately. I will say that the auto GR86 is really slow and the response is sluggish. The manual BRZ was so much faster and it pushes you back into your seat. ( I test drove and floored both to redline)
No🙁, all love but you gotta try both and then you’ll understand why the manual is just better, it’s just way more engaging, do as you want ain’t no hate just giving advice💯
@@OceanLake66 I do have manual 86 but go off. There will always be people who are going to demand manuals. The market is not going to die in our lifetime. You're just being arrogant. If people want an auto then by all means they should be able to get an auto. Stop trying to feel superior because you drive a manual lmao. "you wish you had a manual pal" tells me everything I need to know about you. You're either a child or a manchild.
@@OceanLake66 I drive a 2022 gr86 manual but go off. You're not superior because you can drive manual. Its not anything special. "you wish you had a manual pal" tells me everything I need to know about you. You're either a child or worse... a man child.
The interior looks like from the early 2000, I was planning to buy one, decided not to because the interior looks so outdated and not modern already in 2023.
i don't care if its slow i mean its be best drift car i mean yes u still need some boost to spin around but its be best street car for sure even its slow at least its a 86
also i just to got my licence so looking for job and buying this car for sure and making budget build vid i never made a vlog bec u know i am a shy person😅
It’s a good drift car for manual. You can’t really drift in an auto. It’s also just borderline dangerous to try drifting with an auto. You need a clutch to drift properly.
With the manual you don’t need boost as long as if you go with the GR86 with a manual you’ll be fine if heard the BRZ has softer rear spring rates the GR is more oversteer happy, my GR86 even with traction control on will kick out the rear if I try to kick out the rear or it will grip when I want it to grip, just depends on gear, the car communicates well you just gotta know when it will do what
I dont say shit unless until people ask me how I think. If they ask, my answer is always the same, it is not worth. Dont ask people how they think, if you dont care about what people think.
LET ME TELL YOU BRO I LIVE IN NYC AND BEEN DRIVING MANUAL FOR OVER 15 YEARS. ONCE YOU NICE AT IT, ITS SECOND NATURE. TO ME MANUAL IS THE ONLY WAY TO DRIVE. EVEN IN NYC. CHECK OUT MY GR86 ON MY CHANNEL. I GOT THE 2024 TRUENO EDITION. I LOVE THAT CAR. MOST EXCITING CAR I’VE EVER DRIVEN! 🙌🏽 NAMASTE 🙏🏽 FROM BROOKLYN.
@@LucasHuang TOYOTA OF MANHATTAN. I KNOW WHERE THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER ONE AVAILABLE IN THE NY AREA. I ORDERED THE TRUENO MONTHS AGO AT TWO DIFFERENT DEALERS. I GOT THE ONE IN TOYOTA MANHATTAN BECAUSE THEY GOT THEIRS FIRST.
i will never understand why car company can't make a nice looking sports car with more practical use....like an okay size trunk, space in the back for passengers. Like seriously the trunk in this car is tiny! and the back....ye no adult can sit back there comfortably. If im going to buy a sports car i would find it pointless to make this car have seats in the back and should just make it a 2 seater like the miata...Theres the civic si but man they ugly as hell.
With the traffic these days you’re only lying to yourself if you enjoy manual. I’ve experienced this in a r32 skyline as a daily. Let me tell you it’s not fun after a long day’s work going home in traffic in a manual. It’s a young man’s game
Is it worth it?? The question are, are you too lazy and incompetent to shift your own gears? (Which is the beauty of this car since stick shift is going away). And should the AUTOMATIC Transmission be abolished for a DRIVER'S car such as the GR86/BRZ? YES!
"Is Owning an AUTO GR86 Worth It?" No. 1000% no. It's only purpose is as an inexpensive enthusiast's manual car. If you want an AT car, there are waaaaay better options.
To save you the time. No. It's a sports car learn to drive manual then buy one and enjoy it how it's supposed to be. Especially with an automatic as bad as these
How do you feel about them offering an auto GR86/BRZ?
Steven's IG: instagram.com/gweilooo86/
Auto is fantastic if you live in big cities like LA, NY, etc. No way I'm doing manual again in 2.5hr traffic in Los Angeles (had a manual 2 Door 2017 GTI). Plus, it's my money, I can do whatever I want with it.
It's worth it once you realize you don't care about what other people think.
Facts lol
So true, I was scared of people calling it slow( it kinda is ) ,but at the end of the day I’m the one driving it .
Definitely one of the best affordable modern RWD sports cars.
I definitely don’t regret the auto. 70 to 80% of the fun comes from the cars ability to handle windy roads
@@vincentopperman1420 about the car or auto? The car is amazing
@@ExcursionSteve 80% of the time I drive in traffic so I’m happy I’m in an auto lol
one of my friends owns an automatic sports car and people tell him he doesn't "deserve it" because he didn't get for the manual. you know what he tells them?
"why would you be so upset over a car that isn't yours unless you were jealous?"
Oh it's fucking simple. Because he is part of the problem. Less people buying manuals means less manuals get made. by buying a sports car in auto he is just contributing to the problem. Same reason people get mad and mobile game players or gotcha game players.
@@ferretsmiles cope. seethe. remember, kids, gatekeeping is bad.
@@penguinmaster7 Christ maybe dont use words when you dont know what they mean. Its not gatekeeping to say that he is contributing to the lack of manual transmission options. Its basic fucking market forces like how manufacturers are pouring money into SUVs instead of sedans, wagons, or coupes.
@@ferretsmiles you want to drive a manual? fine, but some people don't or can't. telling them that they're not allowed to drive a car they like specifically because of that, by definition, is gatekeeping.
let people drive what they like, especially when you can't do jack shit about it. it's honestly funny how you think you have any influence at all on what people will get. people like you should be driving camrys, not 86s.
@@ferretsmilesthere is plenty of manuals that will continue to be made. You’re over exaggerating. Support manuals and support autos. That’s all there is to it. Stop crying.
For someone that can't drive manual... and live in the city with all the traffic, I love my gr86 auto
@@shamchang9895 horses for courses.
I have an auto for work but I love nothing more car wise than going out in my 86 manual and changing gear far far too often 🤣 but I would not want to drive a manual in loads of traffic all the time
I actually just bought my auto GR86 this past weekend and I can’t stop smiling while driving. Don’t know how to drive a manual but idc I like the auto!
I have an automatic and get so much hate for it BUT I love it and I don’t regret buying an Auto, yes Manual is more fun but not when I drive everyday in traffic. Soooo many people gave me crap about why I should have gotten manual. What makes is worse is that I’m a girl so I get a lot of negative stuff said to me. It’s so draining because I don’t care. Apparently having an Automatic makes you not a car enthusiast. :(
yea it just disappoints a lot of ppl. not issue with it. u do ur ur thang, also sick u have a little gr86, ur an enthusiast bc u like ur car and u like driving.
Man i feel you . i plan on getting a gr 86 or supra in a year or two. but im scared people gonna shit on me. i wasnt taught how to do manaul nor do i care enough to learn because im not car car personl. but if i did get gr 86 i would want to get it customize with street hunter wide body kit and i just if i do that people really gonna hound my ass calling me fake car person or etc im just like dawg can i not want a nice looking car for myself thats cheap
Just enjoy your car. You don't need to be a car enthusiast lol.
nah its the toxic car community these days . older generations don't care , those who hate on u driving an auto are not real car enthusiast they are posers
I want manual but driving the 405 fwy everyday renders it absolutely worthless as ill be stuck in 1st/2nd the whole drive anyways
Auto is good when you live in very traffic heavy cities but once you get a taste for manual, you're never going back.
Not true. Had manuals but when dealing with serious power + Manual. It's darn near dangerous to take your hand off the wheel. Hence more cars are going with DSGs when dealing with 600+ HP
@@DenisDamulira23 skill issue
biggest true ever. I learnt on an auto as many zoomers do, but I had to learn manual for a job and I just instantly fell in love. not just sports cars, but i really enjoyed driving the hino light truck and delivery vans with a stick and other people's econoboxes as well.
I went from a golf r turbo swapped MT mk7 gti to a 2023 MT BRZ. Highly recommend, will never go back. Only 200lbs later then the gti but the rwd sport car balance makes such a difference!
That's looking like the path I'm going to be taking this summer
GR Corolla seems too expensive 🥹
That's crazy because I went from a mk5 GTI (with some bolt ons and ECU tune) to a '23 MT GR86. I think both cars are fun for their own purposes and would love to have another GTI again just for daily driving and raw power, while keeping the GR86 for weekend touge drives
Dont you feel its slower?
@@davejohnson6144 ya it’s definitely a lot slower but I don’t think anyone looking at buying a BRZ cares about speed in that way. The feeling of driving and driver skill matters a lot more in BRZ and I find it very rewarding!
@@alexanderpowers4515 thats cool but they look fast but that’s about it I guess…
I've owned my GR86 in automatic for about a year and a half now, same situation. lots of traffic on highways even. its just more comfortable to me to not have to play 1-2 all the time. Been there, done that, don't need to do it again lol.
I live 5 blocks from your friend and I’ve never seen his GR! Glad to know there’s someone else in the neighborhood with the same car except mine’s a manual
That’s wild! You down to cruise this summer?
Just bought a 22 gr86 premium with auto. Its the perfect daily that isnt a pain in traffic. No one roasts me since i have a 500whp k20 swapped mini cooper for a weekend toy lol
No roasting here. You get an extra cup holder and more safety features.
what extra safety features? i heard the '24s were going to be coming with Eyesight
MT isn't a pain in traffic. The MT is the correect choice.
@@LucasHuang you are right. The manual and auto now both have the same safety features from what I can tell.
I have an AT in Neptune blue and I love it. The way people talk about it online is insane.
He said the buttons looked cheap lol, I wish I had those buttons in my 23 WRX.
I also would prefer physical buttons over a giant screen
I love the button setup in the GR86!
maybe I have bad taste but I actually like how they look and actually like 90s basic stuff too. I don't like fancy newer stuff, especially nothing from BWM/Mercedes/Lexus
Great vid! I daily my 22 GR86 6AT w 17k mi so far, 3 track days and its been such a fun car. Its my first rwd sports coupe and the lightweight to power ratio compliments this car well. Personally not worried about RTV, and just keeping stock until warranty is up, and driving as intended. This is a great platform in both 6AT and 6MT, depending on personal preference
I learned how to drive manual on an '80s Ford Probe, and I liked it. But let me tell you ... once I experienced paddle-shifting, it opened up a whole new world. You get the control of shifting exactly when you want to and keep the feel of being directly connected to the engine and the wheels, without having to tap-dance with the pedals. The only time this car isn't in Manual mode is when it's in Park or Reverse.
I bought my 2016 BRZ Limited Auto (paddle shift) in 2022. I wanted first-gen because I don't like the duck-bill spoiler on the second-gen. Even the extra horsepower and torque wasn't enough to sway me to get the newer version. Mine was also a great buy, as it only had 13.8k miles on the odometer and it had a clean title.
I love driving this car, even during Minnesota winters. It's absolutely the best car I've ever had.
My new transmission preferences:
1. Paddle-shift Auto
2. Manual
3. Auto
Funny to see ya in that parking lot, I wandered round that garage cuz i had to wait 20 min for an attendant once, its crazy the stuff they got hidden under the dust
When I bought my 86, I had the dealer disable the fake engine noise. If you wanna do it yourself you can easily do it by popping the passenger side end cap for the desh (touches the door when closed) and unplugging it.
I didn't realize this could be disabled. The first thing I'd do is upgrade the exhaust.
I orders a 2024 BRZ limited in automatic (because of a previous shoulder surgery). I am glad it had paddle shifters❣️
I had a 13 FRS and ( loved it ) and traded in foe 22 GR 86, and almost 3 years later I can't wait to drive it every day
The GR86 is amazing to drive, transmission is personal preference, got a Trueno Blue premium recently for 29k out the door had snow tires thrown in the deal with 3k miles on the car and a 6 speed manual, honestly it’s been a blast, it’s odd to go from a FWD Corolla to RWD, but honestly the car is great no matter the trans type my preference was manual cuz every car I’ve had since I’ve started driving was manual, I’ve driven both a auto and manual GR86 both were great, it just comes down to preference, affordability and availability honestly. Looking forward to the 86 in the snow
Paying $800 for this is crazy ngl
800/month bro u can get a q60 redsport for like 600/month bro trippin
its with insurance. at todays insurance and interest rates that seems normal
Fr. 800 a month is a c8. I’m at 650 a month with insurance for a new Camaro 2ss
Yeah I had a 2018 BMW M2, clean title, 1 owner, 40k miles for a couple years and I was paying $780 a month for that. Absolutely no hate for this guy's decision but man... the used market if you're patient is a powerful tool
@@nightwing8666but that shouldn’t be normal, it’s way too expensive
If you did have a manual, you would NOT wanna rest your hand on the stick as you mentioned. The way a manual works is, There are shift collars between 2 gears, so 3rd and 4th for example.. That is always spinning., When you’re in gear, the collar is locked to one or the other ( 3rd or 4th in this case). Your shifter is attached to a shift fork, which rides right in the middle of that collar. Just kind of floating on a film of oil. If you rest your hand on the gearshift, and are putting any pressure at all, the shift fork is now applying that pressure to one side of the collar. This will cause Wear which could lead to your transmission to start popping out of gear after period of time…
Thank you for this video! Do you see prices coming down within the next 6 months?
Not by too much until Toyota stops purposely limiting new car inventory.
I have a 22 auto , bought primarily because of its looks and at 70 I've driven enough manuals to last a lifetime
Just bought a raven (black) ‘24 GR86 premium 6S manual - love it!
Haven’t had any experience with any of your choices but I considered a gr corolla myself , the AWD 300 hp sounded convincing some of them also have the 30:70 drive mode where u can put most of the power in the rear turning it rwd and possibly slide the car pretty neat
I own the exact same car. If youre looking for a luxurious modern interior, this really isnt it. If its your daily the automatic is the way to go. Also one of the best looking cars on the road
I'm enjoying the back to basics interior more than the WRX giant iPad screen
I'm on my second one I like them so much. Had the 2015 FRS and it was a sound reliable car that was fun to drive and great fuel mileage. I just upgraded to the 24 GR86 and love it. I use mine as a commuter car to work so dont want a V8 turbo. I might as well drive my 3\4 ton truck for the fuel mileage those get. The 86 is perfect for what it was built for.
Bought one as well too today. Idc what the haters say they can whine all they want, they probably don’t even have the car 😂
in NYC? if so which dealership and was it MSRP?
@@LucasHuang nahhh dealers in NYC always try to screw me over, also it was very hard to find as they kept selling out so quick. I bought it in Virginia. I know pretty far 😅 and yes it was MSRP
Looking to get one of these to replace the Jetta I've had since college, been looking to order an automatic one. Thank you for making a video like this so I can get more info about the auto one. I work in the downtown area of where I live, and automatics are a must around here, especially with people that drive like idiots around. No indicators or anything half the time.
i got a gr86 too in auto, only cause i live in new york.
Hopefully I catch you around Bro!!
that m4 was insane! and that GR86 is beautiful! best brand new sports car under 40k! no doubt!
Best brand new sports car under 40k is def the Elantra N. 34k and handles better than wrx, gr Corolla, and golf R and is faster in a straight line than the type R all for a lot cheaper
@@LogoYt-gx9uf ummmmmmm maybe... I respect what Hyundai is doing and the Elantra N is nice.... but still...... let's be honest....
Put a base BMW 230i on your list too!
My predicament right now. I would love to get a manual GR86, but I don't know anyone who knows how to drive a manual or have a car with a manual to even practice on. I'm wondering if I should just get an automatic or try to make friends with strangers online and try to meet them in the city so they can teach me.
I had the same carplay issue with my 24brz, and I switched to a high speed data cable. No issues with disconnecting ever since. Hope this helps!
I got an automatic one as well, and I use it as my daily, and I go back and forth on which version I should have gotten, in all honestly the Auto version is still really fun to drive and I don’t track or try to drift enough to really justify owning the manual version, I think if I ever want to track it I’d just get an old FRS
800 a month is insane bruh 💀
For this, yeah it is.
It really is ... gotta put some cash down! He's younger though. I've saved for a long time now and will have a large down payment.
Yeah, reckless decisions haha
@@greentea_vsrg if you’re broke yeah
Gr86 with rear wheel drive and decent ok power would make the perfect drifting car. 😊
My first Manual car, I burned the clutch out within 24 hours. I was basically doing too much. Paid 700 for a new clutch. I was good after that.
I’d want a Manual gr86. But auto is better if someone else might need to drive your car for you
Love the interior and buttons of the gr86.
This isn’t a GTI upgrade but it’s fun, the GTI feels a lot more powerful at highway speeds I’d do the Corolla, Wrx or golf R. You’ll miss your turbo.
I was planning to buy a GR86 in Auto but when I heard about the RTV issue, I changed my mind and bought a IS 350 instead.
Same bro, I wanted one so baaad
There is a company working on a solution
It's not a common issue.. and you can just drop your pan and get it fixed..
@@brandonerwin7031 if you do that it’ll void the warranty
I’m stuck between the GR86 and the IS350 rwd
automatic is completely fine
Bro did not put ANY money down on it lol
Naa it gotta be stickk
Ive driven manual in NYC for > 5 years, it's honestly not as difficult as people make it out to be lol.
It's the slightest of extra work in traffic for a significantly more engaging driving experience for when you want it 😌
That RX8 in NYC is def something special
I totally agree got a manual 2023 ..city neighborhood driving becomes natural after a few months
8 hundo a month is wild
Probably put down 3k
yeh honestly id much rather buy a gen 1 frs and tune the torque dip out myself and save like 20k.
@@eugenewang4650 for a couple hundred more a month he coulda been in a used F series M car haha. These cars awesome but I don't know if theyre 30k + awesome. Wasn't the original FRS/BRZ 25k brand new? Miss those days.
@@KandP69 I own a 2017 gen 1.5 86 i bought new. main draw for me was how cheap it was even compared to the miata. $30k AUD brand new, even a base corolla was $30k at the time. No way id buy a GR86 given how theres a lot more competition at its current price point like the elantra/i30 N or WRX.
That’s crazy.
I love my automatic as well! Hello from NYC!
Peak torque in the stock car is at 3700 RPM’s, so an automatic will likely upshift before that point. If you go into manual mode and upshift late, you should probably feel more force than if you drive on the normal automatic setting.
I have the auto and in sport mode it’ll shift at like 3500. So close enough.
I’ll give it try. Thank you homie!!
damn man I was actually cross checking gti mk8 it looks so good in person and I was shocked when you said you're trying to replace your gti with gr86 etc
that or the WRX
i just didn't want to buy 70% of the same car just cause it has a new look
looking for RWD or even AWD for fun times
Yoo I have the same issue with CarPlay. When it doesn’t work off the cold start, you gotta reboot the infotainment by holding both knobs simultaneously (No Diddy).
Imma try that!
I would get a manual to upgrade and a automatic for daily they look 🔥
What the! Sport and snow buttons? Is that an automatic only thing?
Yup, and they get that extra cup holder :(
@ so random. Have you played around with the boot combination lock code yet? Only on this car… it’s like an Easter egg
I had an auto BRZ for 8 years before switching to a manual BRZ. The auto was good but the manual is definitely for me and wish I had gotten a manual earlier. It took me about a month to get used to manual but it’s fine for me since I rarely commute in it.
I love that no one realizes it’s a “Great6”
Does the GR86 have an oil temp gauge, where it shows the actual temp?
Yes, but I’m not sure how to swap the display
I had 2017 86 auto for 3 years. To be honest I love my car looks but I'm disappointed for everyday driving it, It becomes getting boring every day specially at the free way my car feel so slow even minivan can pass me😅 let's admit it 86/brz are slow for sportscar. But I enjoyed it for 3 years then I sold it and I bought my chicane yellow 370z MT. Any I'm so happy driving it everyday❤ no regret
i love my auto so much
everyone can say what they want, but these cars will stand the test of time when all the haters are gone. 10 20 30 years from now.
Nah these have bad overheating issues if you just cruising in this thing u find but once you start going hard consistently you gonna run into problems
answer: yes
Bruh, the buttons are real and good. Respectfully... For the price, this car is nasty
When he said over $800 a month lmao... It made me feel better about my $600 a month for my manual 2024 BRZ. If you're paying more than that then back out of the deal immediately. I will say that the auto GR86 is really slow and the response is sluggish. The manual BRZ was so much faster and it pushes you back into your seat. ( I test drove and floored both to redline)
Its my dream car, recently bought a car but not a gr86. Insurance is too high for teens.
No🙁, all love but you gotta try both and then you’ll understand why the manual is just better, it’s just way more engaging, do as you want ain’t no hate just giving advice💯
Hope to one day, I don’t doubt it. Still learning about the car community
What was msrp for you?
Did he say he paying 800 bucks a month for it?
My dream car
Just waiting until the modifications and price drop.
It’s the fact they try to make the shifter look like a manual I hate that. I think it just screams insecurity it really does
Just sounds like you’re projecting and are screaming insecurity. You also liked your own comment. Ironic…
@@Picksodus that’s not me who liked it. Just get the manual buddy and not some wanna be manual. That’s the truth
@@Picksodusyou wish you had a manual pal
@@OceanLake66 I do have manual 86 but go off. There will always be people who are going to demand manuals. The market is not going to die in our lifetime. You're just being arrogant. If people want an auto then by all means they should be able to get an auto. Stop trying to feel superior because you drive a manual lmao. "you wish you had a manual pal" tells me everything I need to know about you. You're either a child or a manchild.
@@OceanLake66 I drive a 2022 gr86 manual but go off. You're not superior because you can drive manual. Its not anything special. "you wish you had a manual pal" tells me everything I need to know about you. You're either a child or worse... a man child.
The interior looks like from the early 2000, I was planning to buy one, decided not to because the interior looks so outdated and not modern already in 2023.
I always wanted this!
tell the guy who owns the car its probably his phone if it disconnects entirely and not the car
Love mine.....31k miles so far....its a auto....im old
Sweet video! Hope you made it home without hitting a pot hole. LOL
I have a pothole emergency kit on standby now: 1 strut assembly & 2 Austins 😂
"Is Owning an AUTO GR86 Worth It?"... HELL NAAAAAAH! If you want an AUTO then it means the car was just not meant for you. Keep it MOooooving...
Automatic is for people that don’t care about driving. Manual is for drivers. Simple
@@a124as LOL THIS DUDE PRESSED ASF OVER AUTOS
800 a month for a g86 is just crazy bro, not worth it at all tf
i don't care if its slow i mean its be best drift car i mean yes u still need some boost to spin around but its be best street car for sure even its slow at least its a 86
also i just to got my licence so looking for job and buying this car for sure and making budget build vid i never made a vlog bec u know i am a shy person😅
It’s a good drift car for manual. You can’t really drift in an auto. It’s also just borderline dangerous to try drifting with an auto. You need a clutch to drift properly.
@@Picksodus oh ya save the manual
With the manual you don’t need boost as long as if you go with the GR86 with a manual you’ll be fine if heard the BRZ has softer rear spring rates the GR is more oversteer happy, my GR86 even with traction control on will kick out the rear if I try to kick out the rear or it will grip when I want it to grip, just depends on gear, the car communicates well you just gotta know when it will do what
he said park it and go to sleep 🤣🤣
Lawd $800 a month i would die lmao... Just bought my 2024 Auto Brz last week and love the shit outta it!..$290 monthly for me though lol
Yea, trade in your Golf for a Corolla GR
I guess automatic is fun too.
Bro how much you pay for this? Shouldn’t have been anymore than 33,500 out the door
I dont say shit unless until people ask me how I think. If they ask, my answer is always the same, it is not worth. Dont ask people how they think, if you dont care about what people think.
No way this should be $36,000
Might as well have got the gt86 for half the price..
I can sell mine for $35,000
Same color with only 4500 miles
AWE muffler, drilled and slotted brakes , strut bar etc
LET ME TELL YOU BRO I LIVE IN NYC AND BEEN DRIVING MANUAL FOR OVER 15 YEARS. ONCE YOU NICE AT IT, ITS SECOND NATURE.
TO ME MANUAL IS THE ONLY WAY TO DRIVE. EVEN IN NYC. CHECK OUT MY GR86 ON MY CHANNEL. I GOT THE 2024 TRUENO EDITION. I LOVE THAT CAR. MOST EXCITING CAR I’VE EVER DRIVEN! 🙌🏽
NAMASTE 🙏🏽 FROM BROOKLYN.
what dealership you bought it from?
@@LucasHuang TOYOTA OF MANHATTAN. I KNOW WHERE THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER ONE AVAILABLE IN THE NY AREA. I ORDERED THE TRUENO MONTHS AGO AT TWO DIFFERENT DEALERS. I GOT THE ONE IN TOYOTA MANHATTAN BECAUSE THEY GOT THEIRS FIRST.
i will never understand why car company can't make a nice looking sports car with more practical use....like an okay size trunk, space in the back for passengers. Like seriously the trunk in this car is tiny! and the back....ye no adult can sit back there comfortably. If im going to buy a sports car i would find it pointless to make this car have seats in the back and should just make it a 2 seater like the miata...Theres the civic si but man they ugly as hell.
With the traffic these days you’re only lying to yourself if you enjoy manual. I’ve experienced this in a r32 skyline as a daily. Let me tell you it’s not fun after a long day’s work going home in traffic in a manual. It’s a young man’s game
Look at the new Subaru brz TS, they’re putting a turbo in it with the boxer engine which means more tuning capabilities
No sir, it's not getting a turbo
@@OrionxyZ9 sadly
It is not getting a turbo 😂
Is it worth it?? The question are, are you too lazy and incompetent to shift your own gears? (Which is the beauty of this car since stick shift is going away). And should the AUTOMATIC Transmission be abolished for a DRIVER'S car such as the GR86/BRZ? YES!
800 a month 😭
"Is Owning an AUTO GR86 Worth It?"
No. 1000% no. It's only purpose is as an inexpensive enthusiast's manual car.
If you want an AT car, there are waaaaay better options.
With all due respect... It's pronounced cold not code.
why would you buy this car in auto? what a loser move
Well actually the wrx does technically have physical climate control buttons kid ☝️🤨
you weren't supposed to watch this video 🫢
short answer: no
long answer: noooooooooooooooooooooo
I had both AT and MT, GT86 and GR86. but dude AT butcher THIS CAR!
I think ..no
No it’s not worth. As the English say: automatic transmissions are for the elderly and infirmed
No
To save you the time. No. It's a sports car learn to drive manual then buy one and enjoy it how it's supposed to be. Especially with an automatic as bad as these