@@jackbuckleyautoyou can get a solid 100k miles out of any car. I would bet that car was test drove or ragged or money shifted by someone while in the dealership possession. I know this because i took my m235i in for first oil change at a dealer. When they gave me the car back it took 40 min for the guy at the dealer to get the car while i waited after i paid the invoice. When the rubber guy pulled up in my car he turned it off as i walked up to it to leave. I thought that was sus so i popped the hood and it was molten hot. I touched the rear tires and they were burning hot and sticky. I got the manager after I started the car to drive it around the lot to get the tire pressure gauge to read. On the m they had temps of the tires too. I documented it all and showed the manager the car was ragged and tires were at 165f in the rear and 135f in yhe front and the oil temps were 225. There is no way to achieve that without ragging out the car or doing doughnuts. Sure enough they fired the car wash guy for doing doughnuts in my dam car for like 45min. Then a week later i saw a puddle of oil under my car in the garage. I pop the hood and oil was sprayed everywhere because the oil filter wasnt tightened. If i didn’t document what happened at the dealer and get the manager to fess up the lemon law wouldn’t have worked. They got an engineer from bmw to rebuild my engine that had 2000miles on it that i babied the whole time and some douche bag at the dealership ruined the car. It took a shit load of trips to the dealer to have them clean up the oil that sprayed. They further messed up the car by power washing the engine. This was a brand new paid in full cash m235i 2015 model. I waited 6 months for delivery. The lemon law worked for me because i documented they power washed the entire engine. Then a week after that it went into limp mode. Thats when the engineer came from bmw and pulled the engine. I got the car back and drove it with no issues for 60k miles. I traded it for the gr86 earlier this year. I made sure and receive the car fresh off the truck as it was unloaded. Nobody touched it i left with the plastic still on the seats and car. No dealer has or will touch my gr86. All the basic maintenance is done at a local tuning shop or my garage. Its a beast. The boxer motor is the reason it drives and handles the way it does. You got a dealership fun bagged car dude. The car is fine its user error. I changed the oil on mine at 250 miles with motul 5w30 and again at 1000. Its tits man bummer about your story but the car is solid. Not sure about the oil pressure thing on track but as road car its way more fun than my m235. That car was also amazing but it was heavy and felt way different in corners. I bet the dealer and the manufacturer can tell the exact time someone bags a car from the computer and i bet you someone didnt respect that car at the dealership.
All modern cars are cheaply built with severe cost cutting. All manufacturers are showing engines with machining debris that has not been properly cleaned out including Toyota. Boycott new cars, stick with the old.
@@jackbuckleyauto There has to be something weird going on with your car. I have never heard of the new 86s having engine issues outside of the oil starvation on track. Mine has had 0 issues. Has to be a lemon.
listen i know it’s very frustrating, but i feel like majority of 86 owners haven’t had problems. I feel like this is for sure a lemon, and i know it sucks when it happens but.
@@barnsnoble7066was that comment based on RUclips videos related oil pressure and RTV issues, or are you speaking from facts regarding Toyotas warranty policies?... Would allowing mean case by case basis?
It’s so sad to see these things that are supposed to bring joy can bring so much hardship. I cannot imagine going through what you’ve been going through. I hope you find a car that will serve you well. Best wishes brother
@@victoryensured7137yeah, we also have the zc32s suzuki Swift sport which is like a super budget version, 130hp manual 1000kg, lots of fun and you can really abuse it revving out every gear keeping it in the powerband and not be over speed limit.
@ fr dude 😭😂 I have personal experience myself! I bought a used Scatpack from them back in 2021, and it’s been problem after problem. AC, water pump, headlights, screen…
I won't lie. My local Autonation also has really bad reviews. They sell lemons straight up for real cheap. This is highly unfortunate though. I couldn't imagine the despair on it breaking down just 1 time, id be done with Suburu more than Toyota though, since this is just a BRZ rebadged. I wouldn't blame you for having PTSD seeing a Toyota badge on principal at this point however.
these cars are just garbage in general…. I bought low mileage 2018 Gt86 From toyota certified vehicles few years ago just to find out the car has electrical issues, never again
I love this comment someone posted on another video: "With the Tundra engine failures, Tacoma Transmission failures, GR Corolla over-heats & GR86 oiling issues, Toyotas most reliable car today is a BMW."
Only Toyota does not even build these cars, Subaru does. The only thing Toyota does is slap the Toyota/GR86 branding on it, and does a different suspension and a different tune. Otherwise everything under the hood and hidden from view are subaru branded. I have had mt BRZtS for 2 months now, no issues.
It is a lemon. If it falls under factory warranty then keep taking back to dealer. That's why we buy a new ones. It is part of the peice of mind. With any sports car ownership always have a backup solid backup.
Its interesting how many have had issues and many have had zero issues. Someone made it to 150k miles on it with no problems at all aside from regular maintenance from what I heard. For my 86, I have yet to encounter any issues and its been a perfect car for my daily. I have had my GR86 for a little over 2 years now with no issues at all doing regular maintenance. Really sad to see this kind of shit happening to people.
@@jackbuckleyautothe dealer basically scammed you with warranty never seen someone with this problem from any new Subaru dealer other than automation You should probably sue them or something
Thanks! I was gonna film a full hour long video but i just cant keep putting energy into this car. So many scammy stories and crazy things i didnt even talk about here but i got my point across. Shoot me a subscription for some more cool content!
@@jackbuckleyauto Yeah man absolutely. This hobby is full highs but man it can have it's low points. Bounce back!! Fix it up, get a lawyer and lemon it? Or fix it and sell it off. Good luck.
@@khullguycr4418 I believe you. I am of the same experience and opinion. The car may need more attention on certain aspects but it is almost bullet proof.
Cant say I have had even close to the same experience. My 2022 BRZ has been flawless. Tons of mods, FBO, flex fuel tuned, track driven, and just plain beat on. Car has been 100% perfect for 3 years (late 2021 purchase) now. The car in this video was beat to shit and broken. That is obviously why somebody traded it in. It was likely tuned at some point and suffered detonation damage. That will cause cylinder wash, spark plug fouling, and misfires. Idk what repairs the shop told you they did, but in that short period of time they certainly didnt replace the engine or any internal components.
@jrkustomz5538 No its not because they BOTH use Toyota tuning. They use a Toyota D4S fuel injection system and the ECU is a Toyota ECU. Has nothing to do with tuning. It has EVERYTHING to do with lazy, neglectful owners that dont know how to check their oil.
@@boost331 smh....that one went over your head. It's a Toyota problem in the tuning.......it's not a Subaru problem...let me break down that statement since the obvious wasn't obvious enough...... The engine is provided by Subaru......the tuning....as far as what's required for tuning ,yes including the little box thingy called an ECU ,is what's responsible for the explosions and catastrophic failures. You changed your tuning riiiiiight,then that removes the factory tuning problem..... SMH
@@boost331 no other car is having the same problems that utilizes the fa24 ,like those in the twins . Oh sorry by twins I mean brs and 86 in case you don't get what I mean by twins 🤣
@jrkustomz5538 I have a 2022 BRZ. That is full bolt on with E85 and is tracked regularly. I am on several forums, social groups etc. I can promise you my car is driven harder and has more miles than 90% of all 2nd gen cars out there. Either my car is a unicorn or there a lot of bad owners who think they can treat it like a camry and never open the hood. It is NOT the same FA24 as all the others. Internals are completely different. Rods, pistons, bearings, valve springs, cams, high pressure fuel pump, harmonic balancer, air oil separator design are just a few things that are completely different between a low revving WRX FA24 and a high RPM BRZ FA 24. "I dont know what a tein is" 🤣🤣🤣
I traded my m235i for the gr86 and its been pretty amazing so far. You got either a lemon or someone at the dealer ragged out the car before you bought it
Man, I wanted one of these for sooooooooooo long starting from the FT-86 concept back in 2008/2009. I’m sorry about this man you’ll be in my prayers! I guess I’ll be saving up for my fourth Miata then!
Hmmm, besides the usual used car precautions? I would say buy the absolute best Miata you can afford even if you gotta travel for it, an LSD equipped car is a MUST, depending on generation you’ll run into only minor issues but the early ND1’s have manual transmission issues so people typically swap the NC trans into the car, NB’s seem to be a tad more temperamental in the reliability department for some odd reason I know 2 people who have owned 3 different NB’s with different issues. Now, a lot of people will hate me for this but the NC2/3 is the best generation for people who are looking for the ‘whole package’ because a lot of young people end up wanting an NA then find out it’s a rattle trap with no power… but hey they have charm! Idk if that answers your question but they are the most raced car on the planet, super reliable, amazing mpg, parts are everywhere & it’s a very beloved platform so a ton of parts & knowledge exists for these little bundles of joy!
@@CancelledMcCree Transmission failures could also be because lots of youngsters 'too soon, junior' it. Lots of young people don't drive manual transmissions very well, especially when they're just learning; and learning to abuse their car at that.
Sorry to heat this man. I really hope it works out for you in the end with your Lawyer. I was shopping for my first sports car at the beginning of the year and I was eyeing the GR86 but after all the problems i’ve been seeing I was disappointed. Ended up getting a ND3 miata.
I had a Subaru BRZ that lasted me several years without a hitch. Now I have a WRX that have yet to give me any trouble. It's all dependent on the history of the car, and WHERE you got it. When buying pre-owned, get a certified pre-owned example if you can. AND an extended warranty.
So sorry brother. I’ll be getting another 2019 when I get back into the platform. These new ones are not the way…. My GR Supra has had quite a rough journey all documented on my channel if interested
Damn I’m so sorry this happened. Owner myself, been seeing so many of my friends cars have engine failures as of late. I wonder if it’s just different batches or just luck I guess. My Condolences with the 86 dream, hope lemon law moves forward!
@@Andy-zv4gjthis car is non turbo and the non turbo cars from Subaru don't use MLS head gaskets. Any subie guy knows that so it sounds like YOU have been getting info from memes and btw I own a WRX so please save me the BS.
@Gchang54 gr Corolla is still a more reliable car than these Subaru boxers I think. That fire was the one of the only cases I saw but I’ve only seen nothing but the worst from these Subaru boxers
Hey, terribly sorry this happened to you. I purchased a brand new 2022 BRZ with 0 miles when they first came out, and within 2 years of ownership my engine blew. Was denied warranty despite me taking it to them for oil changes as this was the promise they’ll fix my engine in case anything happens as I showed them RTV issues Short story short, dealership kept my car for 9 months and was charging me 14k for them to fix despite still being covered under warranty. Ended up getting a lawyer and now the Subaru dealership cashed me out
yeah clear lemon law case. Third time's the charm. Very sad to see, I was thinking of getting on. I am a toyota salesman and all I can say is covid has destroyed automakers quality control. Its very sad to see.
What happened is the scumbags at the dealership sold you a lemon brotha. I used to be a car salesman and I made SURE to never sell someone a lemon and I lost my job for it. As a consumer people need to do a better job of understanding what kind of car they’re getting ready to purchase and bring a trusted mechanic/serious car guy that can help you inspect a car and look at all the numbers to see if it’s even worth it. If you go into a dealership unprepared and excited like a kid in a candy store, you’re asking to get scammed. You’ll rarely run into a salesman like me that’ll actually be honest with you and help make sure you leave with a good car
Considering all new Toyotas are blowing up, sure. I also find it ironic the people are doing turbo brzs with 500whp without a single issue yet the gr86 is having problems stock. There’s a reason Subaru just past Toyota for reliability lol.
Thats honestly rough, Ive owned my GR86 for about 1.5 years now, Ive beat on it like crazy and still none of these issues have ever popped up on me. This car has been so reliable for me especially in hot vegas heat. Now Im about to throw a turbo charger kit lol
I'm going through a similar situation with a 2005 Mazda 6 S Wagon I purchased as a 3rd car. It won't stop blowing coolant. Hoses have been changed & now it's back in the shop for a new radiator that will cost $1200 in labor.
Not sure if you checked (I’m sure you have) but I mean there is a huge problem With these cars and oil starvation due to the access of RTV the use getting caught in the pickup tube, that could be why each engine blows up on you mane
It's a Subaru not a Toyota and Subaru boxer engine are famous for their unreliability, mostly blown head gaskets, and yes Toyota's are now crap along with every new gasoline vehicle made.
I’m so sorry to hear abt the GR. Know how much you love that thing. Sometimes shitboxes will be the car that you put all your blood sweat and tears into. But it turns into amazing stories for the future and a car that you will learn to love even more. Love you Jack ❤
Man I got a 24 brz and with 3k miles and it’s going good, I’m sorry you got the Toyota version. I was gonna get that one as well but when I went to the dealer after doing research I had a feeling Subaru was the better option even though people prefer the Toyota version.( I’ve had it since august of 2024)
Just wanted to express my regards for how that car was supposed to be your greatest dreams and marking a triumphant return only to have it be your worst nightmare. I really feel a lot of empathy for you because that's practically the story of my life. Relationship issues, both platonic and romantic, material issues, other things. You've been through a lot and I just wanna say you're very strong for holding it together to this point. I'm wishing and praying for luck on your side to get this all sorted out.
just sold mine at 29k miles. Miss it everyday. Sorry its treating you this poorly brother. I switched into a 2022 GLI Autobahn edition and its been a blessing
The words friends and dealerships can't ever coexist. But in regards to Toyota as a brand, they're really just under the microscope compared to other brands. Unfortunately, they're not handling the warranty claims well, just like Intel (if you know).
How are they under the microscope lol. If anything, they should be getting more criticized. All of their new products have multiple defects from factory.
There are no friends in business. During big transactions any feelings and attachments should be put aside. If they exist, they will always be used as an asset against you.
Out of the frying pan and into the fire. Brother. Don’t blame the car. Don’t blame the dealership. You want to have a good prosperous life? Get the fuck out of the car scene. Look at what you are doing, from one hooptie to another even worse hootpie. Sell both. Start over with a reliable point a to point b car get your money up and get your credit up. instead of sitting there infront of a broken down Toyota and a freaking busted up BMW I hope to see you sitting infront of a brand NEW BMW and a NEW Toyota Supra. God speed brother.
Sorry you're goin through this... even with the law on your side, it's just much faster if media helps you propel this issue higher. I was considering this car before getting my miata and I consider both to be very important cars for being some of the only lightweight options out there... Scammy dealerships are one thing but Toyota as a company has been rather shameful lately.
@@jackbuckleyauto I used Carmax after 2 dealerships scammed me. They tell you literally anything to convince you the sale is good, to get you in a vulnerable situation, then up the costs and say they couldn't get the quoted deal. The way they talk, their body language, mannerisms, you know its all a show. Its literally people upselling you for $$$, by any means. One told me I could drive it off the lot and my loan went through, then as im 5 minutes away (on an hour long drive) he calls me, tells me its actually in the shop, and that I would have to put $1000 down for them to hold it, before I have even test drove it. F*** dealerships.
@@jackbuckleyautohey bud look at Savage Geese videos on this car. Supposedly it’s the RTV on your oil pan that gets dislodged and gets in the oil pickup and starves the engine of oil. Then no more engine
If I had to guess based on the description you mentioned, it sounds like the engine keeps losing compression in different cylinders. I'm guessing it's valvetrain related and they keep repairing the engine (swapping cylinder heads most likely). Lemon law varies by state but I would definitely get in touch with your state's attorney general or secretary of state and see exactly what your rights are. I would insist on a brand new engine, or I would take them to court. Having them just put a full motor in it at this point is likely easier for everyone.
This has been happening a lot with Toyotas. But ironically the only issues with the brz was the overuse of silicone on the oil pan which was caught and rectified. But lemon cars happen, look at Tj hunts brand new mustang he bought. Was broken a bunch of times before they replaced the motor.
It's funny how Hyundai is now the new norm with the car scene, with the exception of the stigma of reliability issues and being mom cars. The N division of Hyundai is doing what all other japanese manufacturers are stumbling to do in the modern day. I was looking at the 86 for a little bit until I decided against it. I love my Elantra N. Have a friend with 90k miles and a JB4 with no issues so far. I know this video doesn't have to do with the 86, but it kinda goes to show how times have changed. It's a very great car on paper, but the engine really holds it back, all the while the supposed hyundai family car is winning touring car championships back to back.
I almost bought one of these but ended up going for an E210 Corolla 6MT instead (easier with kids). No issues and loving the mod support. Looks like I dodged a bullet with the GR86. Sad really. It was my dream car too.
Insane to me how my Supra (BMW) has been the most reliable GR car so far. I’d love to get a GR Corolla or 86, but constantly seeing these issues come up is really pushing me away. I wish you the best.
Dont stop applying pressure tell them youll tell the bbb i had a similar situation but i had bought a tlx my dream car from-a chevy dealership and 1 day after my engine blew up and they where taking forever to give me a answer so i kept just showing up to the dealer and asking for a solution and at the end of the day i got a check for all my money back and i had no warranty or anything i used that to buy my new tlx just dont stop applying pressure and threaten to report to the better business bureau and get your money back idk if you financed it or not but i also had my credit union apply pressure on them because i found out they work together often with that particular chevy dealership
There is a valve rocker arm retainer kit , it is a muct because they fall off and destroy the motor. Also dont use 0-20. Use 5w40. Also add 1/2 to 3/4 qt more if you drive hard and corner hard, change oil more often than 5 k if you drive hard. With those suggestions the car can last a bit more and hopefully not have engine failure.
such a bummer. I had issues with Servco Toyota, they’re absolute trash. I had an oil leak from the drivers side valve cover and they didn’t honor the warranty, fuckers. Other than that oil leak my cars been great and i absolutely love it. Toyota knows these cars have issues and the dealerships do the ABSOLUTE least
I feel you. I took the chance to buy a 2013 WRX that was listed for a really good deal. Didn't have a warrantly. I had no car because my other impreza had shit the bed (Over 200k miles). The dealer managed to cover up a ton of issues that have had it down in my garage for almost 7 months. I don't have the money to fix it nor buy a new car, so I've been ride sharing to college classes for months. I had my motorcycle over the summer, but not only is it very cold where I am now but someone vandalized it and I had to total it through insurance, and I'm waiting for my OSHP inspection.
God damn man, this sucks to hear. I have a 55k mile 22 gr86 that runs like a dream. I hope this issue gets resolved someday or another. Sucks to see a great car be a pos
@@planetstupider502 n55. More than solid engine. zf8 trans too, im sure you know how good that is. Its a great buy but imo i prefer 3/435i. Same engine and trans combo too
Crazy that I relate to this. I have a Corolla Hatchback that is having numerous issues that shouldn’t be happening for a Toyota. Broken motor mounts at 47k miles, slave cylinder failure at 46k (that many have reported along with clutch failures), and now a noisy ISB. I drove my 180k mile RSX more spiritedly than my Corolla and that thing did not have the issues my car currently has
Feel bad for you my friend. I've owned this car for over two years now and have not had any issues, but I did buy it brand new, have not modified it and do not track it. Did you get yours used, or was it also new straight from Toyota? Either way, hoping things improve and they either finally correct the issues, or the legal process does some justice for you.
I'm really curious as too what "fix" they did cause the new FA24 have terrible oil starvation on right hand turns (proven by 900BRZ) which eventually cause bearing or piston rod related issue.
This has always been an issue buying Used Performance Cars, it doesnt matter if it is a Toyota or a SRT-8 Charger. A lot of owners beat the heck out of them and then trade it out. People always joke about buying a used STI is a bad idea because u don't know how the previous owner abused it, there are a lot of truth to it. And then people talk about not buying a previous Rental car either. It is usually not the renter who abuse the car, but the Employee of the Rental companies... They do a whole different level of Abuse on their Rental fleets and don't keep up with the maintenance.
Turboed 485WHP on E85 first gen FR-S still running strong since 2015 ^_^. Will never buy this car if my life depends on it. Hope you get something done about this. I know three people whose engine blew up within the first 6 months hehe.
The first gen BRZ/86's don't have the oil starvation issue, At least not like to newer ones. The first generation oil "starvation" is split second and extremely minor.
I bought a 2023 GR Supra and I absolutely love it. Gas mileage is terrible. Can’t really get on it without polluting the world but it’s still the greatest. Sorry for your loss
I bought a used 2013 Scion FRS with 40k miles . I owned the car for three years , even when you have all schedule maintence done on the car it doesnt matter . when my car got 88k miles i noticed a knock rattle sound coming from the engine . I had the car checked out and was informed to get rid of car asap .
Ive got a GR86 and a supercharged NA miata. I love both, I do run about a Half quart overfill on my 86 and everything has been fine on and off track from 8 to 8000k miles so far.
My 2013 Toyota 86 engine blew in May this year (Australia) 15km/h slowing down for a roundabout. As I had UEL headers and an ECUtek tune, Toyota won't touch it.
I got my 22 from vroom with 6k miles a year ago. It's at almost 25k miles now driven the hell out of it turning traction control off every time I drive it, there's a ton of people tracking these with no issues too. You got scammed and had a lemon sold to you by the dealer. I guarantee you the last owner had issues with it before you too.
And this is why I much rather hold on to my old Toyota Camry than getting a new Toyota. I was considering on getting one at first in fact one of the cars I was looking at was a gr86 ,but after the recalls and problems they were having hard pass. Plus I'm nearly at 200k miles I doubt any new Toyotas could do that or any new car for that matter.
I’ve been shopping around for a GR86/BRZ as a replacement for my 335i but your story scares me. Never thought a turbo BMW that’s 13 years old would be more reliable.
All new cars are hit and miss sounds like. Considering how many bad experiences alot of people are having with all new cars i will NEVER buy anything New. Thank you for sharing this with us the info is invaluable.
My 2023 GR86 10th Anniversary manual is awesome. My clutch went out at 2,000 miles of street driving. Dealer agreed to cover the parts but I had to submit a separate claim for labor to the Toyota corporate via their web site which was approved. 10,000 miles and 2 years later car drives great.
I just ordered a 2025 GR86. Gonna put a cat back that does not require tuning. AWE touring I think. Gonna drive normal for first 1000 miles. Factory warranty is some peace !! I wish you luck with that one.
Sorry to hear this man, hearing that you really had high hopes for this car to have them shattered in front of you has to be the shittiest thing…… damn brother
Prefer rwd but my 14 st is running strong at 108k miles, perfect compression. After some liquid, molly, went from qt every 1500 miles, to nothing at 3k. May get a rs. This spring.
I had a 2015 FRS RS1 that was nice stock and then turbo changed it, then upgrade the turbo kit, then built(not blew) the engine and it make 480whp 360tq and never had an issue with it. Was the best car I owned and wished I still had it. Everyone's quality degrades over time.
This is heartbreaking dude… I can tell how passionate you are and things like absolutely kill dreams :( best of luck dude (super disappointed in Toyota)
Modern cars have soy based insulation on wires, rodents love them. Porsche now does a wrap/coating fix for their chewed wires Mercedes still has no fix. Get the harness checked.
I would echo the comments and try for lemon law. Recover financially as much as possible. The car was obviously never fixed right the first time, no engine should blow within a week. Also, toyota dealer techs arent nearly as experienced with boxers as Subaru techs. This really sucks and i feel for u, but kudos to u for being honest and realizing U had made a bad financial decision swayed by emotions. Ull almost never see other RUclipsrs admit that. They would just bash the manufacturer only. U definitely paid too much for this car at $40k. My 23 brz limited was brand new OTD under $35k
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*Lemon Law That Car*
Lemon laws only good for the first 18,000 miles
This 100%
States are different but I believe the lemon law fall under only new cars. So he might be SOL on that one.
Only applies on New cars unfortunately
I want to know if the car is stock or not.
If that engine is modified?
Never thought I’d see someone buy an old ass bmw because their new(er) Toyota had problems. Usually the other way around
My 20 year old beemer has been worlds more reliable than my 1 year old Toyota
@@jackbuckleyautomy Toyota has held up through 3 accidents a theft and multiple break ins they just last depends on the history
“Toyota”. It’s a subaru at the end of the day, and that is why.
@@SIIKAP1nailed it. Subaru sucks
@@jackbuckleyautoyou can get a solid 100k miles out of any car. I would bet that car was test drove or ragged or money shifted by someone while in the dealership possession. I know this because i took my m235i in for first oil change at a dealer. When they gave me the car back it took 40 min for the guy at the dealer to get the car while i waited after i paid the invoice. When the rubber guy pulled up in my car he turned it off as i walked up to it to leave. I thought that was sus so i popped the hood and it was molten hot. I touched the rear tires and they were burning hot and sticky. I got the manager after I started the car to drive it around the lot to get the tire pressure gauge to read. On the m they had temps of the tires too. I documented it all and showed the manager the car was ragged and tires were at 165f in the rear and 135f in yhe front and the oil temps were 225. There is no way to achieve that without ragging out the car or doing doughnuts. Sure enough they fired the car wash guy for doing doughnuts in my dam car for like 45min. Then a week later i saw a puddle of oil under my car in the garage. I pop the hood and oil was sprayed everywhere because the oil filter wasnt tightened. If i didn’t document what happened at the dealer and get the manager to fess up the lemon law wouldn’t have worked. They got an engineer from bmw to rebuild my engine that had 2000miles on it that i babied the whole time and some douche bag at the dealership ruined the car. It took a shit load of trips to the dealer to have them clean up the oil that sprayed. They further messed up the car by power washing the engine. This was a brand new paid in full cash m235i 2015 model. I waited 6 months for delivery. The lemon law worked for me because i documented they power washed the entire engine. Then a week after that it went into limp mode. Thats when the engineer came from bmw and pulled the engine. I got the car back and drove it with no issues for 60k miles. I traded it for the gr86 earlier this year. I made sure and receive the car fresh off the truck as it was unloaded. Nobody touched it i left with the plastic still on the seats and car. No dealer has or will touch my gr86. All the basic maintenance is done at a local tuning shop or my garage. Its a beast. The boxer motor is the reason it drives and handles the way it does. You got a dealership fun bagged car dude. The car is fine its user error. I changed the oil on mine at 250 miles with motul 5w30 and again at 1000. Its tits man bummer about your story but the car is solid. Not sure about the oil pressure thing on track but as road car its way more fun than my m235. That car was also amazing but it was heavy and felt way different in corners. I bet the dealer and the manufacturer can tell the exact time someone bags a car from the computer and i bet you someone didnt respect that car at the dealership.
Buying a used BMW to replace a new Toyota. What the hell happened to Toyota reliability.
Exactly
All modern cars are cheaply built with severe cost cutting. All manufacturers are showing engines with machining debris that has not been properly cleaned out including Toyota. Boycott new cars, stick with the old.
The cost-cutting mindset isn't exclusive to American brands. It never was
Subaru happened.
Subaru happened to this one.
“When I was a kid I saw an FRS” man are we that old 😂
I KNOW
@@jackbuckleyautoI think he’s implying that you’re young 😂
the frs is 11 years old... what are you 19?
I was 18 when the first gen came out 🫠🫠🫠I'm 30 now but it doesn't feel that long ago
Seems like a free win for a lemon lawsuit. Get a good lawyer for it.
Started researching it, contacted a few people already. Meeting with another tomorrow actually. Updates coming
@@jackbuckleyautogood luck bro
@@jackbuckleyautoi cant wait for your vid after you win the suit
@JohnS-il1dr let's hope
@@jackbuckleyauto There has to be something weird going on with your car. I have never heard of the new 86s having engine issues outside of the oil starvation on track. Mine has had 0 issues. Has to be a lemon.
listen i know it’s very frustrating, but i feel like majority of 86 owners haven’t had problems. I feel like this is for sure a lemon, and i know it sucks when it happens but.
The situation wouldn't be so bad if Toyota's decision to warranty these cars wasn't based on a whim.
@@barnsnoble7066was that comment based on RUclips videos related oil pressure and RTV issues, or are you speaking from facts regarding Toyotas warranty policies?... Would allowing mean case by case basis?
It’s so sad to see these things that are supposed to bring joy can bring so much hardship. I cannot imagine going through what you’ve been going through. I hope you find a car that will serve you well. Best wishes brother
Thanks man. This was supposed to be such a good thing
Shame you don't have a gr yaris in America to be able to swap to either :(
@@johnstape4488 Gr yaris is gold, such a little destroyer of a car
@@victoryensured7137yeah, we also have the zc32s suzuki Swift sport which is like a super budget version, 130hp manual 1000kg, lots of fun and you can really abuse it revving out every gear keeping it in the powerband and not be over speed limit.
Soon as I heard AUTONATION I knew there was trouble
Have yet to hear good things about them
@ fr dude 😭😂 I have personal experience myself! I bought a used Scatpack from them back in 2021, and it’s been problem after problem. AC, water pump, headlights, screen…
I won't lie. My local Autonation also has really bad reviews. They sell lemons straight up for real cheap. This is highly unfortunate though. I couldn't imagine the despair on it breaking down just 1 time, id be done with Suburu more than Toyota though, since this is just a BRZ rebadged. I wouldn't blame you for having PTSD seeing a Toyota badge on principal at this point however.
I used to work for them, only because I had no choice, they tried scamming me so bad into a car . I am so sorry for your experience
@ all good homie I’m gonna turn it into a weekend and project car once I grad from law school.
It would be interesting to know what the dealership did when they fixed the engine the first two times.
these cars are just garbage in general…. I bought low mileage 2018 Gt86 From toyota certified vehicles few years ago just to find out the car has electrical issues, never again
sounds like some ring sealer and seafoam and send it back to customer
I love this comment someone posted on another video:
"With the Tundra engine failures, Tacoma Transmission failures, GR Corolla over-heats & GR86 oiling issues, Toyotas most reliable car today is a BMW."
Are you talking about the Supra with the B58 engine?
Only Toyota does not even build these cars, Subaru does. The only thing Toyota does is slap the Toyota/GR86 branding on it, and does a different suspension and a different tune. Otherwise everything under the hood and hidden from view are subaru branded. I have had mt BRZtS for 2 months now, no issues.
@@coreykirkpatrick4392 Transmission and fuel injection system are Toyota
It is a lemon. If it falls under factory warranty then keep taking back to dealer. That's why we buy a new ones. It is part of the peice of mind.
With any sports car ownership always have a backup solid backup.
Its interesting how many have had issues and many have had zero issues. Someone made it to 150k miles on it with no problems at all aside from regular maintenance from what I heard. For my 86, I have yet to encounter any issues and its been a perfect car for my daily. I have had my GR86 for a little over 2 years now with no issues at all doing regular maintenance. Really sad to see this kind of shit happening to people.
My first gr86 I put 20,000 miles on with 0 issues. I can't even get 200 miles out of this one
@@jackbuckleyautothe dealer basically scammed you with warranty never seen someone with this problem from any new Subaru dealer other than automation
You should probably sue them or something
my 2013 frs had 140k miles no mechanical issues. my 23 brz with 16k miles no issues.
Is it considered rare to make it to 150k? My Miata went to 270k before I had an issue too costly to be worth it. That seems super low idk.
Never would I thought to hear "I should have kept my Fiat and bought an old BMW to replace my new Toyota"
that sentence is truly insane
I wouldn't just fault Toyota, but I would also fault a poor design by Subaru. You need a good attorney!
I have a GR too. Tough situation man. sheesh. Good luck. Nice video.
Thanks! I was gonna film a full hour long video but i just cant keep putting energy into this car. So many scammy stories and crazy things i didnt even talk about here but i got my point across.
Shoot me a subscription for some more cool content!
@@jackbuckleyauto Yeah man absolutely. This hobby is full highs but man it can have it's low points. Bounce back!! Fix it up, get a lawyer and lemon it? Or fix it and sell it off.
Good luck.
Fingers cross for you
I'm starting to believe my rotaries are more reliable than these modern cars.
That is the truthI will take my 13b all day 😂
@@charlesbeaver5663 Yup, Apex seals are easy to install.
Actually my RX-8 at the current point of my life is the best car I have so far lol
@@khullguycr4418 I believe you. I am of the same experience and opinion. The car may need more attention on certain aspects but it is almost bullet proof.
Yeah.... the amount of times I saw a coworker struggling to start his modified RX8.. Hard no, especially Canadian winters.
Cant say I have had even close to the same experience. My 2022 BRZ has been flawless. Tons of mods, FBO, flex fuel tuned, track driven, and just plain beat on. Car has been 100% perfect for 3 years (late 2021 purchase) now.
The car in this video was beat to shit and broken. That is obviously why somebody traded it in. It was likely tuned at some point and suffered detonation damage. That will cause cylinder wash, spark plug fouling, and misfires. Idk what repairs the shop told you they did, but in that short period of time they certainly didnt replace the engine or any internal components.
It's a Toyota problem. Not a Subaru problem. It's coming down to the individual tuning from Toyota for the Subaru supplied engine.
@jrkustomz5538 No its not because they BOTH use Toyota tuning. They use a Toyota D4S fuel injection system and the ECU is a Toyota ECU. Has nothing to do with tuning. It has EVERYTHING to do with lazy, neglectful owners that dont know how to check their oil.
@@boost331 smh....that one went over your head. It's a Toyota problem in the tuning.......it's not a Subaru problem...let me break down that statement since the obvious wasn't obvious enough...... The engine is provided by Subaru......the tuning....as far as what's required for tuning ,yes including the little box thingy called an ECU ,is what's responsible for the explosions and catastrophic failures. You changed your tuning riiiiiight,then that removes the factory tuning problem..... SMH
@@boost331 no other car is having the same problems that utilizes the fa24 ,like those in the twins . Oh sorry by twins I mean brs and 86 in case you don't get what I mean by twins 🤣
@jrkustomz5538 I have a 2022 BRZ. That is full bolt on with E85 and is tracked regularly. I am on several forums, social groups etc. I can promise you my car is driven harder and has more miles than 90% of all 2nd gen cars out there. Either my car is a unicorn or there a lot of bad owners who think they can treat it like a camry and never open the hood. It is NOT the same FA24 as all the others. Internals are completely different. Rods, pistons, bearings, valve springs, cams, high pressure fuel pump, harmonic balancer, air oil separator design are just a few things that are completely different between a low revving WRX FA24 and a high RPM BRZ FA 24. "I dont know what a tein is" 🤣🤣🤣
Put the Bimmer’s motor in the GR and you’ll have a Supra.
lmfao
the B58 is in another league bro
I traded my m235i for the gr86 and its been pretty amazing so far. You got either a lemon or someone at the dealer ragged out the car before you bought it
40k for a 86 is insane..
could've bought a real car...like a used 370Z, then had plenty of money to boost it lol
It's an FRS/BRZ. These cars aren't anything to do with being an "86". It's a Subaru flat engine vehicle.
@@TheGuruStud is the 370z as uncomfortable as they say
@@karimtemri1664not at all
@@TheGuruStud would've got stolen within 48 hours then taken to takeovers, probably involved in a drive by and a few robberies, then stripped
Man, I wanted one of these for sooooooooooo long starting from the FT-86 concept back in 2008/2009. I’m sorry about this man you’ll be in my prayers! I guess I’ll be saving up for my fourth Miata then!
Same here. I saw an FRS in the earlier 2010's and new I had to have one
Any tips for a new miata owner?
Hmmm, besides the usual used car precautions? I would say buy the absolute best Miata you can afford even if you gotta travel for it, an LSD equipped car is a MUST, depending on generation you’ll run into only minor issues but the early ND1’s have manual transmission issues so people typically swap the NC trans into the car, NB’s seem to be a tad more temperamental in the reliability department for some odd reason I know 2 people who have owned 3 different NB’s with different issues. Now, a lot of people will hate me for this but the NC2/3 is the best generation for people who are looking for the ‘whole package’ because a lot of young people end up wanting an NA then find out it’s a rattle trap with no power… but hey they have charm! Idk if that answers your question but they are the most raced car on the planet, super reliable, amazing mpg, parts are everywhere & it’s a very beloved platform so a ton of parts & knowledge exists for these little bundles of joy!
@@CancelledMcCree Transmission failures could also be because lots of youngsters 'too soon, junior' it. Lots of young people don't drive manual transmissions very well, especially when they're just learning; and learning to abuse their car at that.
I’m really sorry you are having these problems. My 2023 GR86 has been perfect. But then, I got it new and I don’t track it.
same I got mine directly off the boat and Ive done one track day and everything has been great.
Thank you for posting your story. Hoping you get the results you want and your story changes some minds, esp at the dealer customer service level.
I drove a gen1 BRZ for 10 years and close to 200K miles with 0 issues. Id definitely lemon that one and get a replacement
Sorry to heat this man. I really hope it works out for you in the end with your Lawyer. I was shopping for my first sports car at the beginning of the year and I was eyeing the GR86 but after all the problems i’ve been seeing I was disappointed. Ended up getting a ND3 miata.
Congrats!
I had a Subaru BRZ that lasted me several years without a hitch. Now I have a WRX that have yet to give me any trouble. It's all dependent on the history of the car, and WHERE you got it. When buying pre-owned, get a certified pre-owned example if you can. AND an extended warranty.
So sorry brother. I’ll be getting another 2019 when I get back into the platform. These new ones are not the way…. My GR Supra has had quite a rough journey all documented on my channel if interested
just subscribed brah!
@ you the man!
Damn I’m so sorry this happened. Owner myself, been seeing so many of my friends cars have engine failures as of late. I wonder if it’s just different batches or just luck I guess. My Condolences with the 86 dream, hope lemon law moves forward!
Thanks buddy
Not a Toyota. That thing is a Subaru with a Toyboata badge. What are Subi’s known for? Blowing up headgaskets.
You getting your info from memes? Cause I’ve had 3 made it to 200k miles no head gasket issues lmao 2 wrx and one forester sti
@@Andy-zv4gjthis car is non turbo and the non turbo cars from Subaru don't use MLS head gaskets. Any subie guy knows that so it sounds like YOU have been getting info from memes and btw I own a WRX so please save me the BS.
@Gchang54 gr Corolla is still a more reliable car than these Subaru boxers I think. That fire was the one of the only cases I saw but I’ve only seen nothing but the worst from these Subaru boxers
@ are you fucktarded that’s the ej with the mls head gasket issues
@@ianhairston5258 are you fućķt@rded that’s the ej with the head gasket issues
Hey, terribly sorry this happened to you. I purchased a brand new 2022 BRZ with 0 miles when they first came out, and within 2 years of ownership my engine blew. Was denied warranty despite me taking it to them for oil changes as this was the promise they’ll fix my engine in case anything happens as I showed them RTV issues
Short story short, dealership kept my car for 9 months and was charging me 14k for them to fix despite still being covered under warranty. Ended up getting a lawyer and now the Subaru dealership cashed me out
yeah clear lemon law case. Third time's the charm. Very sad to see, I was thinking of getting on. I am a toyota salesman and all I can say is covid has destroyed automakers quality control. Its very sad to see.
Just switch from sales to maitenance! You'll make a killing
What happened is the scumbags at the dealership sold you a lemon brotha. I used to be a car salesman and I made SURE to never sell someone a lemon and I lost my job for it. As a consumer people need to do a better job of understanding what kind of car they’re getting ready to purchase and bring a trusted mechanic/serious car guy that can help you inspect a car and look at all the numbers to see if it’s even worth it. If you go into a dealership unprepared and excited like a kid in a candy store, you’re asking to get scammed. You’ll rarely run into a salesman like me that’ll actually be honest with you and help make sure you leave with a good car
I have owned 2 zn6’s (1st gen 86) out hear in Arizona at this point and they have been solid! I’m sorry to hear your story man
86 could have been such a great car if it was not for the Subaru powertrain
Considering all new Toyotas are blowing up, sure. I also find it ironic the people are doing turbo brzs with 500whp without a single issue yet the gr86 is having problems stock. There’s a reason Subaru just past Toyota for reliability lol.
@@402car_kid4you do know the 86 is literally built in the Subaru factory in Japan right?
Sounds like you've been going through the ringer with this GR 86, I hope the future is better and brighter for you. Keep pushing 💪
Thats honestly rough, Ive owned my GR86 for about 1.5 years now, Ive beat on it like crazy and still none of these issues have ever popped up on me. This car has been so reliable for me especially in hot vegas heat. Now Im about to throw a turbo charger kit lol
Man I can relate so much with this. I got a 2nd hand 7th gen Celica, issues started a week after I brought it. Is so frustrating
I'm going through a similar situation with a 2005 Mazda 6 S Wagon I purchased as a 3rd car. It won't stop blowing coolant. Hoses have been changed & now it's back in the shop for a new radiator that will cost $1200 in labor.
Not sure if you checked (I’m sure you have) but I mean there is a huge problem With these cars and oil starvation due to the access of RTV the use getting caught in the pickup tube, that could be why each engine blows up on you mane
It's alot worse. Warped cylinder heads, blown gaskets, trans failure, etc
he bought an abused car at 17700 miles with no service history. Scam used dealership gave him 100% warranty and fucked him.
It's a Subaru not a Toyota and Subaru boxer engine are famous for their unreliability, mostly blown head gaskets, and yes Toyota's are now crap along with every new gasoline vehicle made.
I’m so sorry to hear abt the GR. Know how much you love that thing. Sometimes shitboxes will be the car that you put all your blood sweat and tears into. But it turns into amazing stories for the future and a car that you will learn to love even more. Love you Jack ❤
Thanks Anthony, glad we met
I own mine since May 2024. I'm at 13000km and had no issue with it. You got a lemon.
That sucks man! Sorry about that. Keep us up-to-date.
Will do!
Man I got a 24 brz and with 3k miles and it’s going good, I’m sorry you got the Toyota version. I was gonna get that one as well but when I went to the dealer after doing research I had a feeling Subaru was the better option even though people prefer the Toyota version.( I’ve had it since august of 2024)
It's the same car
ive got about 8k on my 24 86 premium and i have nothing but good things to say about it. So far my favorite car ive ever owned besides my NA miata
Just wanted to express my regards for how that car was supposed to be your greatest dreams and marking a triumphant return only to have it be your worst nightmare. I really feel a lot of empathy for you because that's practically the story of my life. Relationship issues, both platonic and romantic, material issues, other things. You've been through a lot and I just wanna say you're very strong for holding it together to this point. I'm wishing and praying for luck on your side to get this all sorted out.
just sold mine at 29k miles. Miss it everyday. Sorry its treating you this poorly brother. I switched into a 2022 GLI Autobahn edition and its been a blessing
The words friends and dealerships can't ever coexist.
But in regards to Toyota as a brand, they're really just under the microscope compared to other brands. Unfortunately, they're not handling the warranty claims well, just like Intel (if you know).
How are they under the microscope lol. If anything, they should be getting more criticized. All of their new products have multiple defects from factory.
There are no friends in business. During big transactions any feelings and attachments should be put aside. If they exist, they will always be used as an asset against you.
Out of the frying pan and into the fire. Brother. Don’t blame the car. Don’t blame the dealership. You want to have a good prosperous life? Get the fuck out of the car scene. Look at what you are doing, from one hooptie to another even worse hootpie. Sell both. Start over with a reliable point a to point b car get your money up and get your credit up. instead of sitting there infront of a broken down Toyota and a freaking busted up BMW I hope to see you sitting infront of a brand NEW BMW and a NEW Toyota Supra. God speed brother.
Sorry you're goin through this... even with the law on your side, it's just much faster if media helps you propel this issue higher. I was considering this car before getting my miata and I consider both to be very important cars for being some of the only lightweight options out there... Scammy dealerships are one thing but Toyota as a company has been rather shameful lately.
Dealerships are trashing Toyota's name sake
@@jackbuckleyauto I used Carmax after 2 dealerships scammed me. They tell you literally anything to convince you the sale is good, to get you in a vulnerable situation, then up the costs and say they couldn't get the quoted deal. The way they talk, their body language, mannerisms, you know its all a show. Its literally people upselling you for $$$, by any means. One told me I could drive it off the lot and my loan went through, then as im 5 minutes away (on an hour long drive) he calls me, tells me its actually in the shop, and that I would have to put $1000 down for them to hold it, before I have even test drove it. F*** dealerships.
@@jackbuckleyautohey bud look at Savage Geese videos on this car. Supposedly it’s the RTV on your oil pan that gets dislodged and gets in the oil pickup and starves the engine of oil. Then no more engine
If I had to guess based on the description you mentioned, it sounds like the engine keeps losing compression in different cylinders. I'm guessing it's valvetrain related and they keep repairing the engine (swapping cylinder heads most likely). Lemon law varies by state but I would definitely get in touch with your state's attorney general or secretary of state and see exactly what your rights are. I would insist on a brand new engine, or I would take them to court. Having them just put a full motor in it at this point is likely easier for everyone.
Yeah, Im not buying anything with a boxer engine anymore...there are so many of them blowing up for some reason 😢
:(
i orderd one already....
Except porsche. Porsche makes em the best
@@firedude1ProductionsPorsche is the only reliable German car brand. The issue is parts costs are super high.
@@SI0AX bmw is reliable too
This has been happening a lot with Toyotas. But ironically the only issues with the brz was the overuse of silicone on the oil pan which was caught and rectified. But lemon cars happen, look at Tj hunts brand new mustang he bought. Was broken a bunch of times before they replaced the motor.
It's funny how Hyundai is now the new norm with the car scene, with the exception of the stigma of reliability issues and being mom cars. The N division of Hyundai is doing what all other japanese manufacturers are stumbling to do in the modern day. I was looking at the 86 for a little bit until I decided against it. I love my Elantra N. Have a friend with 90k miles and a JB4 with no issues so far.
I know this video doesn't have to do with the 86, but it kinda goes to show how times have changed. It's a very great car on paper, but the engine really holds it back, all the while the supposed hyundai family car is winning touring car championships back to back.
I wish I bought an elantra N
@jackbuckleyauto I don't regret my purchase on bit. I'd say get your hands on one if you can, while you can.
I almost bought one of these but ended up going for an E210 Corolla 6MT instead (easier with kids). No issues and loving the mod support. Looks like I dodged a bullet with the GR86. Sad really. It was my dream car too.
Insane to me how my Supra (BMW) has been the most reliable GR car so far. I’d love to get a GR Corolla or 86, but constantly seeing these issues come up is really pushing me away.
I wish you the best.
thanks man, shoulda just got a cayman or a supra
Dont stop applying pressure tell them youll tell the bbb i had a similar situation but i had bought a tlx my dream car from-a chevy dealership and 1 day after my engine blew up and they where taking forever to give me a answer so i kept just showing up to the dealer and asking for a solution and at the end of the day i got a check for all my money back and i had no warranty or anything i used that to buy my new tlx just dont stop applying pressure and threaten to report to the better business bureau and get your money back idk if you financed it or not but i also had my credit union apply pressure on them because i found out they work together often with that particular chevy dealership
ive already applied that pressure. I now have 3 open cases with corporate, notified the ftc, etc
There is a valve rocker arm retainer kit , it is a muct because they fall off and destroy the motor. Also dont use 0-20. Use 5w40. Also add 1/2 to 3/4 qt more if you drive hard and corner hard, change oil more often than 5 k if you drive hard. With those suggestions the car can last a bit more and hopefully not have engine failure.
Damn, tough break dude.
I'm sorry to hear that. Id do an engine swap with an Sti or wrx, assuming they are compatible engine mountwise
such a bummer. I had issues with Servco Toyota, they’re absolute trash. I had an oil leak from the drivers side valve cover and they didn’t honor the warranty, fuckers. Other than that oil leak my cars been great and i absolutely love it. Toyota knows these cars have issues and the dealerships do the ABSOLUTE least
Sorry about your situation. Lemon law it and start new. I hope my 2021 tacoma I just bought doesn't have too many problems.😬
I feel you. I took the chance to buy a 2013 WRX that was listed for a really good deal. Didn't have a warrantly. I had no car because my other impreza had shit the bed (Over 200k miles). The dealer managed to cover up a ton of issues that have had it down in my garage for almost 7 months. I don't have the money to fix it nor buy a new car, so I've been ride sharing to college classes for months. I had my motorcycle over the summer, but not only is it very cold where I am now but someone vandalized it and I had to total it through insurance, and I'm waiting for my OSHP inspection.
God damn man, this sucks to hear. I have a 55k mile 22 gr86 that runs like a dream. I hope this issue gets resolved someday or another. Sucks to see a great car be a pos
Dang. That said, hard to go wrong with a bmw with the m54. I got a 5 series with over 400 000km on original engine and trans.
what do you think of the 2016 BMW 535 3.0 TURBO 6
@@planetstupider502 n55. More than solid engine. zf8 trans too, im sure you know how good that is. Its a great buy but imo i prefer 3/435i. Same engine and trans combo too
make a follow up video man
Waiting on it! Toyota admitted fault just waiting for the final settlement before I post again!!
Did you just say 500$ a month for your insurance? That's what I pay for 6 months
440$ a month ya
how much do you pay per month?
That's more than I pay for insurance for 5 years, America is insane
@@jackbuckleyauto oh wow nice, is that the price of the car two or just the insurance?
$80 a month here. When I started in NYC as a new driver I payed $500 as well. Don't miss those times.
Crazy that I relate to this. I have a Corolla Hatchback that is having numerous issues that shouldn’t be happening for a Toyota. Broken motor mounts at 47k miles, slave cylinder failure at 46k (that many have reported along with clutch failures), and now a noisy ISB. I drove my 180k mile RSX more spiritedly than my Corolla and that thing did not have the issues my car currently has
Feel bad for you my friend. I've owned this car for over two years now and have not had any issues, but I did buy it brand new, have not modified it and do not track it. Did you get yours used, or was it also new straight from Toyota? Either way, hoping things improve and they either finally correct the issues, or the legal process does some justice for you.
😢😢that sucks !! Same happen to me with a Camaro SS 2015 i was 18 and never again got an American Muscle😢😢😣
I'm really curious as too what "fix" they did cause the new FA24 have terrible oil starvation on right hand turns (proven by 900BRZ) which eventually cause bearing or piston rod related issue.
This has always been an issue buying Used Performance Cars, it doesnt matter if it is a Toyota or a SRT-8 Charger. A lot of owners beat the heck out of them and then trade it out. People always joke about buying a used STI is a bad idea because u don't know how the previous owner abused it, there are a lot of truth to it.
And then people talk about not buying a previous Rental car either. It is usually not the renter who abuse the car, but the Employee of the Rental companies... They do a whole different level of Abuse on their Rental fleets and don't keep up with the maintenance.
Turboed 485WHP on E85 first gen FR-S still running strong since 2015 ^_^. Will never buy this car if my life depends on it.
Hope you get something done about this. I know three people whose engine blew up within the first 6 months hehe.
The first gen BRZ/86's don't have the oil starvation issue, At least not like to newer ones. The first generation oil "starvation" is split second and extremely minor.
I bought a 2023 GR Supra and I absolutely love it. Gas mileage is terrible. Can’t really get on it without polluting the world but it’s still the greatest. Sorry for your loss
I bought a used 2013 Scion FRS with 40k miles . I owned the car for three years , even when you have all schedule maintence done on the car it doesnt matter . when my car got 88k miles
i noticed a knock rattle sound coming from the engine . I had the car checked out and was informed to get rid of car asap .
That's rough. Sorry this is happening to you.
I saw these GR86s were getting cheaper in Australia, but still around the $40k mark. Was wondering how they really were to buy/own
Was hoping to get my hands on one of those one day, looks like I’ll stick to my fellow NB miata
Ive got a GR86 and a supercharged NA miata. I love both, I do run about a Half quart overfill on my 86 and everything has been fine on and off track from 8 to 8000k miles so far.
My 2013 Toyota 86 engine blew in May this year (Australia) 15km/h slowing down for a roundabout. As I had UEL headers and an ECUtek tune, Toyota won't touch it.
Well ya you modified the engine
@@jackbuckleyauto The valve springs are a fault from factory.
I get your frustration but I don’t think it’s fair to generalize. You bought a beat on car
I got my 22 from vroom with 6k miles a year ago. It's at almost 25k miles now driven the hell out of it turning traction control off every time I drive it, there's a ton of people tracking these with no issues too. You got scammed and had a lemon sold to you by the dealer. I guarantee you the last owner had issues with it before you too.
Yep. Screw autonation
And this is why I much rather hold on to my old Toyota Camry than getting a new Toyota. I was considering on getting one at first in fact one of the cars I was looking at was a gr86 ,but after the recalls and problems they were having hard pass. Plus I'm nearly at 200k miles I doubt any new Toyotas could do that or any new car for that matter.
That’s Brutal bro, sorry to hear that. Dealerships are just so scummy nowadays and treat people like statistics
I’ve been shopping around for a GR86/BRZ as a replacement for my 335i but your story scares me. Never thought a turbo BMW that’s 13 years old would be more reliable.
I think lemon law may apply in this case have you looked into that? Sounds like a clear lemon.
On the phone with attorney now lol
@@jackbuckleyauto That's great, hope this gets resolve. Sad to see this happened, GR86 was my past car before I switch to Lexus and I really miss it.
@@jackbuckleyautoany luck?
Subscribed and catching up! Is there a way this falls under lemon laws?
Markup stopped me from buying one of these in 22 went for a Mustang but I’m going to upgrade when I get my house
All new cars are hit and miss sounds like. Considering how many bad experiences alot of people are having with all new cars i will NEVER buy anything New. Thank you for sharing this with us the info is invaluable.
My 2023 GR86 10th Anniversary manual is awesome. My clutch went out at 2,000 miles of street driving. Dealer agreed to cover the parts but I had to submit a separate claim for labor to the Toyota corporate via their web site which was approved. 10,000 miles and 2 years later car drives great.
Learn to shift.
I just ordered a 2025 GR86.
Gonna put a cat back that does not require tuning. AWE touring I think. Gonna drive normal for first 1000 miles. Factory warranty is some peace !! I wish you luck with that one.
Sorry to hear this man, hearing that you really had high hopes for this car to have them shattered in front of you has to be the shittiest thing…… damn brother
Prefer rwd but my 14 st is running strong at 108k miles, perfect compression. After some liquid, molly, went from qt every 1500 miles, to nothing at 3k. May get a rs. This spring.
That would be dope man
Sucks you've had so many issues I've put 30km on my BRZ and it's been flawless. You def got a lemon!
I had a 2015 FRS RS1 that was nice stock and then turbo changed it, then upgrade the turbo kit, then built(not blew) the engine and it make 480whp 360tq and never had an issue with it.
Was the best car I owned and wished I still had it. Everyone's quality degrades over time.
sad to see toyota's reliability is gone... that GR 86 looks so badass!
Hope you get through this, such shitty people at dealerships
This is heartbreaking dude… I can tell how passionate you are and things like absolutely kill dreams :( best of luck dude (super disappointed in Toyota)
Modern cars have soy based insulation on wires, rodents love them. Porsche now does a wrap/coating fix for their chewed wires Mercedes still has no fix. Get the harness checked.
I've seen the GR Yaris engine blow up. It was on the nurburgring, but you wouldn't expect it from a Toyota
I would echo the comments and try for lemon law. Recover financially as much as possible. The car was obviously never fixed right the first time, no engine should blow within a week. Also, toyota dealer techs arent nearly as experienced with boxers as Subaru techs. This really sucks and i feel for u, but kudos to u for being honest and realizing U had made a bad financial decision swayed by emotions. Ull almost never see other RUclipsrs admit that. They would just bash the manufacturer only. U definitely paid too much for this car at $40k. My 23 brz limited was brand new OTD under $35k
Absolutely. Thanks for the comment!
Some states like California have an insane amount of taxes so this price is not surprising
Yeah I bring mine to Subaru if ever 😂 I do not bring it to Toyota I dont care what my badge says.