Thanks for sharing, ex commercial electrician studying construction management, found this really useful to help me gain a clear understanding of the procedures involved for a suspended floor :)
In my experience of having to live with it, chipboard flooring sags after about 20 years and you end up with a lumpy floor. Also if it gets wet, it goes soggy, expands then disintigrates.
Just saw the exact same stuff used on 8 flats I was working on in London. Caberdek 18mm tongue & groove with that glue. It is nasty stuff if you get it on your hands or clothes! Powerful stuff though. Nice job that.
@@michaelburke9548 Yep it's definitely not wise to not wear gloves when glueing and fixing with that glue. Gloves on when doing it and then off again when finished if you don't enjoy working with gloves....
Boards P5. 18mm boards for joist at 400 centres, 22mm for 600 centres. The Caber manual says no noggins required on the long edge (boards laids 90 dgrees to joists). Short egdes should meet a noggin or joist. Dont use 18mm on 600 centres.
Hi mate I really like your vid. Shame about the pool. Would this same principle work for a supporting floor.. I.e a new room in a vaulted ceiling. What would be the max span I could go without support in the middle. Cheers
Hi, Very interesting video. Did Building Control ask for the subfloor to be cross ventilated on opposing walls? How did you make sure that there is no risk of interstitial condensation/moisture to timbers?
Im planning to lay T and G chipboard in a upstairs bedroom. My question is if i'm butting up against the skirting board on the last piece, how do i avoid a gap? Because i'll need a gap to be able to lay it flat and then slide into the the T and G together. If theres no gap between the skirting and last board, the touge will sit on top on the previous board
I'm actually thinking of getting rid of the cellar underneath my suspended floor (150 year old Victorian house) by removing the joists below the floor and treating somehow the ground (soil + cement), probably by fixing some damp proofing membrane.. There's a few air bricks on each of the two walls exposed to the exterior.. Unfortunately I haven't much space in my home and every inch matter so there's any recommendation you could give me to achieve this and trying to tackle any potential damp problems, do you think there's any structural issues I should be prepared to look into before removing any joists/sleepers..? Many Thanks, Juan
Just curious as to what thickness the boards are typically for new-build property. My builder told me it's OSB, but they didn't specify thickness. Is it always 18mm?
What is the difference advantage disadvantage between using this type or tounge and groove vs large chipboard flooring sheets that come in a massive size of 2.8 m by 2m without tounge and groove. Cost of the boards without tounge and groove is much cheaper. I would ensure edges all on the joist and screwed in would it be complainant with building regs
Hi I’ve just watched your video I’m a bench joiner but have been asked to level a 42m square floor I’m finding it hard to work out a price and how long it would take any advice would be much appreciated thanks mike
Hello everyone! I have a couple questions regarding building a floating floor and would be very happy if anyone with experience could share some tips as I am new to this. I have to raise my kitchen floor around 10/15 cm and I thought making a floating floor with wooden frame. The room is small around 3x2,5 meters and the floor needs to be able to support the weight of a small kitchen (6 cabinets, including marble countertop and all appliances). My question is: every floating floor I see om youtube is standing on some kinnd of poles or supports so that the wooden frame is not in contact with th ground/concrete. Since my current floor is made of wood, can the whole frame (both vertical and horizontal wood parts) be directly in touch with the current wooden floor? Or is there any good reason why I should raise the frame? Other question: what size of woods I should use for such a small room and to support properly the weight of the kitchen? Last question should the joists run the long or short side of the room? Thanks to anyone able to help, been watching so many videos and still confused :)
Hi, lots of things to consider. What’s the floor structure of existing house? Timber or solid. If timber the subfloor should be vented, and if this was my project I’d continue along the lines of the original house as long as there is no rot or damp. That would suggest the vents and dpm are working. If solid I’d put a new solid floor in to full building reg spec. For timbers and span calc you need a struc eng if you need building regs, but if not look at what was existing and add a bit for the next man and it should still be there when we all pass ✌️
Hi jack I haven't done a shed tour yet but may do one soon , yes I quite like the live stream might make it a regular weekend feature for questions and up and coming videos .
About to start a similar type of floor on my garage which has a slope. It’s a double garage. Will I have to put some kind of support for the joists half way across the floor?
You could cut some short vertical supports at an angle to match the slope of your floor and use coach bolts to attach them to the joists, for a double garage I'd put at least two rows evenly spaced across the floor to support general weight. Obviously this is not to support vehicles being there just foot traffic, bikes, furniture etc
Hi great video and awesome job but your wrong about floor being stong i have that crap in my house and i stampped on my landing and now i have a massive hole so i disagree with your its a strong floor but how do i get the other boreds up to fix it as they have stupid lips and groves that slot together like a one time only jigsaw so any advice would be greatly appreciated thanks
Hi Michael Yes if the incorrect spacing and nogging arrangement has been used it will intimately have weak points. Very easy to replace a patch or even a full sheet just multi tool off the lips and remove and replace with a new piece removing the lips also just make sure you glue the joint and fix plenty of screws in .
Watched this vid a while ago when I was doing my sub floor and never realised it was yourself. Do you still get alot of non sparky work (other than the current kitchen)?
We had our living room done due to water ingress (wet rot) and the room is 4.5M long x 3.5M wide. Having new joist (C24 Kiln Dried Regularised Sawn Treated Timber 47mm x 150mm 3.6M). Cost around £1K inc labour. That's including finishing it off with 18mm WBP plywood boards.
Jake Frost I use my iPhone for everything mate , music and editing just saves me a lot of time when uploading . I only use my laptop to pull music I want as a backing track .
The spacing of 400mm centres used in your project, is it a minimum requirement from building regs or just required from design? I mean I have a project which requires 600mm ctrs joist spacing. So is it okay?
Thanks for sharing, ex commercial electrician studying construction management, found this really useful to help me gain a clear understanding of the procedures involved for a suspended floor :)
In my experience of having to live with it, chipboard flooring sags after about 20 years and you end up with a lumpy floor. Also if it gets wet, it goes soggy, expands then disintigrates.
Because of the video title I was hoping for a little more information on the Building Regulations.
Why is a sparks cutting timber?
Just saw the exact same stuff used on 8 flats I was working on in London.
Caberdek 18mm tongue & groove with that glue. It is nasty stuff if you get it on your hands or clothes! Powerful stuff though.
Nice job that.
Ryan I’ve got it in my hands and cloths before and it’s awful! It goes black on skin !
@@michaelburke9548 Yep it's definitely not wise to not wear gloves when glueing and fixing with that glue.
Gloves on when doing it and then off again when finished if you don't enjoy working with gloves....
Cool dude
Could have made it a secret room
;-)
turned out very nice, I did the same to my kitchen floor used the 18mm chipboard over new joists...
Boards P5. 18mm boards for joist at 400 centres, 22mm for 600 centres. The Caber manual says no noggins required on the long edge (boards laids 90 dgrees to joists). Short egdes should meet a noggin or joist. Dont use 18mm on 600 centres.
Hi mate I really like your vid. Shame about the pool. Would this same principle work for a supporting floor.. I.e a new room in a vaulted ceiling. What would be the max span I could go without support in the middle. Cheers
Thanks. Helps a LOT 👍
Nice and neat job mate but I think if extra sandwiches beam underneath the joist would be more stronger
Ive had bad experience with chipboard...rooms upstairs creak like mad....needs to get them out
Hi, Very interesting video. Did Building Control ask for the subfloor to be cross ventilated on opposing walls? How did you make sure that there is no risk of interstitial condensation/moisture to timbers?
Interesting job. Nice work.
Smashing job!
Tidy job 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
nice
Im planning to lay T and G chipboard in a upstairs bedroom. My question is if i'm butting up against the skirting board on the last piece, how do i avoid a gap? Because i'll need a gap to be able to lay it flat and then slide into the the T and G together. If theres no gap between the skirting and last board, the touge will sit on top on the previous board
Sounds like I'm watching a Geico commercial
Just curious, but why did you have to cover over the swimming pool?
Why didn’t you keep the pool? 🤭
They didn't want it
Beautiful job mate well done 👌🏻
I'm actually thinking of getting rid of the cellar underneath my suspended floor (150 year old Victorian house) by removing the joists below the floor and treating somehow the ground (soil + cement), probably by fixing some damp proofing membrane.. There's a few air bricks on each of the two walls exposed to the exterior..
Unfortunately I haven't much space in my home and every inch matter so there's any recommendation you could give me to achieve this and trying to tackle any potential damp problems, do you think there's any structural issues I should be prepared to look into before removing any joists/sleepers..? Many Thanks,
Juan
Just curious as to what thickness the boards are typically for new-build property. My builder told me it's OSB, but they didn't specify thickness. Is it always 18mm?
Nice work! Strange request from customer never seen that before.
Zed Man yeah I believe it's going to be a dance studio .
Can you use this method to put decking over a void space?
What is the difference advantage disadvantage between using this type or tounge and groove vs large chipboard flooring sheets that come in a massive size of 2.8 m by 2m without tounge and groove.
Cost of the boards without tounge and groove is much cheaper. I would ensure edges all on the joist and screwed in would it be complainant with building regs
The structure nice..who helped you with this one? rather which company?
Me and Andy
do you have any suggested videos for going onto suspended steel framed floor?
Do you screw/nail the boards down?
What was the width of the pool pls
Lovely work there mate 👍
Hi I’ve just watched your video I’m a bench joiner but have been asked to level a 42m square floor I’m finding it hard to work out a price and how long it would take any advice would be much appreciated thanks mike
Hello everyone! I have a couple questions regarding building a floating floor and would be very happy if anyone with experience could share some tips as I am new to this. I have to raise my kitchen floor around 10/15 cm and I thought making a floating floor with wooden frame. The room is small around 3x2,5 meters and the floor needs to be able to support the weight of a small kitchen (6 cabinets, including marble countertop and all appliances). My question is: every floating floor I see om youtube is standing on some kinnd of poles or supports so that the wooden frame is not in contact with th ground/concrete. Since my current floor is made of wood, can the whole frame (both vertical and horizontal wood parts) be directly in touch with the current wooden floor? Or is there any good reason why I should raise the frame? Other question: what size of woods I should use for such a small room and to support properly the weight of the kitchen? Last question should the joists run the long or short side of the room? Thanks to anyone able to help, been watching so many videos and still confused :)
Hi, lots of things to consider. What’s the floor structure of existing house? Timber or solid. If timber the subfloor should be vented, and if this was my project I’d continue along the lines of the original house as long as there is no rot or damp. That would suggest the vents and dpm are working. If solid I’d put a new solid floor in to full building reg spec. For timbers and span calc you need a struc eng if you need building regs, but if not look at what was existing and add a bit for the next man and it should still be there when we all pass ✌️
Thats great, cover up a pool. Now burn the wood and fill the pool with water.
Are you doing any more live streamsAnd do you have a shed tour
Hi jack I haven't done a shed tour yet but may do one soon , yes I quite like the live stream might make it a regular weekend feature for questions and up and coming videos .
OK I am 11 years old and I have all my own tools in my shed I make things from wood and I love it
Jake Frost epic mate well done
About to start a similar type of floor on my garage which has a slope. It’s a double garage. Will I have to put some kind of support for the joists half way across the floor?
You could cut some short vertical supports at an angle to match the slope of your floor and use coach bolts to attach them to the joists, for a double garage I'd put at least two rows evenly spaced across the floor to support general weight. Obviously this is not to support vehicles being there just foot traffic, bikes, furniture etc
Hi great video and awesome job but your wrong about floor being stong i have that crap in my house and i stampped on my landing and now i have a massive hole so i disagree with your its a strong floor but how do i get the other boreds up to fix it as they have stupid lips and groves that slot together like a one time only jigsaw so any advice would be greatly appreciated thanks
Hi Michael
Yes if the incorrect spacing and nogging arrangement has been used it will intimately have weak points.
Very easy to replace a patch or even a full sheet just multi tool off the lips and remove and replace with a new piece removing the lips also just make sure you glue the joint and fix plenty of screws in .
@@Cjrelectrical oh ok so make it flush in stead do you mean and if so kool thank you for the help
Yes as long as it’s sat on the joists and not in mid air if so add in some extra timbers to take the edges.
@@Cjrelectrical ok thanks for the help i had no idea how to do this i have alot of skill just none in most things a house is made of these days
Do suspended floors go long ways or width ways.
Across the shortest span
Watched this vid a while ago when I was doing my sub floor and never realised it was yourself. Do you still get alot of non sparky work (other than the current kitchen)?
Yes starting a loft conversion very soon .
@@Cjrelectrical must be good to get the variation in work. Plenty vids on that I hope.
How did you get the angle for the front of the pool?
pythagoras theorem
How much do my living room ,new beams floor 13ft by 20 ft
We had our living room done due to water ingress (wet rot) and the room is 4.5M long x 3.5M wide. Having new joist (C24 Kiln Dried Regularised Sawn Treated Timber 47mm x 150mm 3.6M). Cost around £1K inc labour. That's including finishing it off with 18mm WBP plywood boards.
How do I sketch a T shaped timber floor frame?
Email me and il reply there.
What cameras do you use
Jake Frost I use my iPhone for everything mate , music and editing just saves me a lot of time when uploading . I only use my laptop to pull music I want as a backing track .
Do you dive in through the hatch now?
Yes underfloor pool party .
Do a live stream tonight mate
Jake Frost sooon
The spacing of 400mm centres used in your project, is it a minimum requirement from building regs or just required from design? I mean I have a project which requires 600mm ctrs joist spacing. So is it okay?
It all depends on the length of the joists there is a measurement you can take from the span table
why on earth would you cover an indoor pool?
Can you imagine the costs and time running and maintaining a pool?
hi mate what is your email
Wrenching with Kyle reevio11@yahoo.co.uk
Plastic on wrong side of insulation.
Don't you have to be a qualified builder to carry out this building work?
No competent with structural calculations and building control approval
Have you seen the IQ of an average builder?
Shit floor board s
I prefer to build with Woodglut plans.