Helldivers 2: Gamers Have Won!
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- Опубликовано: 4 май 2024
- Asmongold Clips / Asmongold Reacts To: Helldivers 2 request for all players to create and link a Sony Playstation Network Account to continue play on Steam is no longer going forward
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Moral of the story: Always bully the big corporations
What did they expect? They literally trained us to fight tyranny.
Doesn't work on Nintendo
@@Micchi- nintendo generally keeps to itself in its own consoles so not much one can do
@@Micchi-oh shit they’ll fight back till either their bankrupt or your dead by …means
@@monke6116 nintendo is making games for little kids. There is no way they will bother them.
FOR THE DEMOCRACY WE WON
We dive together or not at all. HAIL MANAGED DEMOCRACY.
For Super Earth!!!
o7
arrowhead should of sorted it at start but sony stepped in, don't think sony will purchase this company now
We wanted Democracy and we Managed
If everyone acted the same way against micro transactions years ago, Gaming would still be fun today....
It still is. You need to keep vigilant in your search because you'll find something for you.
@@DubberRucks
It's really only indie games nowadays, you might have one or two big production games every year or two that won't be filled to the brim with MTX and the like.
@@tmxyz0 somehow they'll find a way to ruinning indie games too. Already happen with Eiyuden 2 eng translate
Gaming is still fun you just old like me. if the 89 or 85 is related to you year :P
@tmxyz0 it's really not that hard.
Gamers coming together to do the right thing was great. We *can* make a difference if we band together. 🙂
This is a good start but we need to really start suing these companies going forward for this crap. If they have to pay for court fees constantly they'll realize that it isn't worth the hassle of doing anti customer shit going forward. We need to start going into the mud and fighting at their level.
if anything its because steam removed their game from the store. i.e. no more sales. the dont care about the gamers
@@kyrozudesoya1829if it’s not a legal breach of contract it’s not possible
A naughty german said the same
This only works when the company listens to the people. Don't expect something like this to happen again anytime soon.
Helldivers 2 trained a whole community to focus on a single task as a team and this is the result of that. Major Order Complete, good work Helldivers.
Now you understand why they want to keep us divided
This is only for a video game, imagine us standing up for our culture.
“We have created the greatest civilization on earth that have always crushed our enemies”
- a Finn speech in Moscow
best response ever
we will take back cyberstan
New MO: Reverse the negative reviews!
Ironically poetic ngl
Editor was so excited he couldn't wait for Asmon to drag himself out of bed and react
And i was the 69th like to this 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽niiceeeee
That's why he's the MVP! That's why he's the GOAT. The G.O.A.T.!
Editor is clearly a Helldiver!
It sleeps?
At this point i’m only semi here for Asmon and more for the editor.
They realized they were facing potential legal action and those Steam refunds started pouring in. That's what changed their tune 100%. Soon as Steam said "fk it, block sales in any non PSN country and start issuing refunds" it was all over. Someone at Sony saw a bunch of Steam Refunds come into their inbox and said "WTF is going on" they passed it up to a finance manager and they said "Oh shit, what happen?" and then their boss ran it to an executive who said "But MY BONUS!!!!!" and they changed their bind about PSN requirements.
100% this comes down to some random executive losing a bonus.
the playstation network account required tag is still up on the steam page , the may 2nd update page DOESN'T say its been removed simply that they are learning about player preference , NOTHING is changed except a REVIEW SCORE FOR THEIR UPCOMING INVESTORS CALL by people taking a twitter post as solid evidence, until the PSN required tag on the helldivers 2 page is removed and an update clearly stating it wont require PSN on steam im not changing my negative review im not falling for twitter crap that can be reneged on without consequence.
@@yamivalkri Let anonymous hack that network again 😂
We got to thanks the G man Always on our side
Yea that's how business works, owners and executives make decisions based on profits. I run my company this way too!
@@ricardohoang8452Yeah, we all know how hilariously easy it is for actual hackers to breach Sony's servers 😂
Funny how the "required" connection isn't actually required at all.
it was gonna be required on may 6th i think
"We are still learning" - I read this as "We try to figure other way to trick you" xD
That's exactly what that meant haha. Slimey fks. Almost sounds like the robot overlords poking through with AI
They will be back next week. Goofy ah 90s cartoon villains
I’m very curious what they’re going to do next.
@@ligmasphere901🤣🤣
the account linking on may 30th wont happen. doesnt mean there wont be another instance of this
And THIS is why telling companies to go fuck themselves instead of rolling over and taking it should be a standard practice, because if more people did it, it'd work more often.
well gamers USED to do this years ago but not anymore for some reason.
remember the launches for arkham knight on pc and ac unity, those games got railed for there preformance, knight was pulled till it was fixed, and unity gave out there dlc for free. i really miss those days when gamers didn't take these bad choices by publishers.
@@CRAZYMUGMAN Because things like Steam and social network weren’t so popular those times. Writing letters was mostly useless
I think the more pressing matter was the PSN network thing with countries. They were inviting EU giving a big ticket and lawsuit against Sony when half the Europe couldn't get a PSN network account.
Most of the time enough people don't care
@@ricardohoang8452 huh? that was 2015 lil bro trust me social networks were popping at that time lmfao
We should firstly thank Valve to accept those unrestricted refunds. I don't think it would've work out otherwise.
👍
Still not coming back to the game.
The level of trust lost is insane.
Understandable. Hope you find something that fills the void created by this. 👍
Come join us in the mines in DRG instead. Major update in 4 weeks and the devs are based.
"We're still learning what is best for PC players" Yeah guys they were doing it because they thought it was best for us
@@purplesky135 Sadly that will never happen, the knob slobbing Sony receives from the "gaming" community is unrivaled and cultish.
@@purplesky135same with films and shows
@@shazmodeus2795except for Nintendo, I just can't comprehend their fans.
@@shazmodeus2795I wouldn’t say it’s unrivaled. Have you met Nintendo fans?
there to used to shoving whatever they want on there console players. woke crap tos random bans etc. pc gamers will not stand for that crap.
The thing is, they probably weren't bullied for the change. They back pedaled the moment Steam started offering refunds. And people did start getting refunds. It was because of money.
I guess this did require valves cooperation but that was part of the plan
I guess this did require valves cooperation but that was part of the plan
Except that the Publisher doesn't pay for refunds, the Devs do.
shit Steam didn't give me any refund and I had less than two hours played. They said I had bought the game too long ago.
@@Doctadeth The Devs were 100% funded by Sony for such a game
Where are my war bond medals for completing this Major Order, Colonel Brasch?
Doesn't change that the developers knew about this update and didn't tell anybody about it
I wouldn't be surprised if NDAs were in play at the time
All that's left is to fire the CMs and Mods that hate the community
Here here
Kinda true. I think Baskinator is fine and people are overreacting at her, but Spitz and the purple guy should be at least internally discussed. A witchhunt is not the move
Especially that purple squid guy
Stop being a Karen and asking for people to get fired. Geez.
They can't. They are the diversity hires at the company. Paid to do noting, just because of their gender, skin color, ex orientation...
remember we bullied a film studio into changing the look of sonic, we have more power than people realize
Only because the people working on the project wanted it changed. There’s a reason the stuff leaked…
@@mrbubbles6468 Yeah, thats what Jon says...
@@mrbubbles6468it didn’t leak. That was the offical trailer release.
Isn't Sonic also part of Sony
@@ceoatcrystalsoft4942 I thought Sonic was part of Nintendo? It must be in a weird limbo space.
"I hope this is a lesson for everyone, we have power as consumers. Corpos are beholden to us, not us to them."
Amen.
If only we had this much energy and unity against all anti-consumer practices
The community managers still need to be reviewed/fired for shitting on players expressing displeasure.
This is a rare w against Sony
Sony made this decision.
Possibly, Sony keep demanding that PSN account and Arrowhead instead of arguing simply goes,
_"Go ahead, See with your own eyes how it'll be"_
So technically they already satisfy sony demand and reverse it in few days after all the drama causes sony to fold
Still wont be buying because this game is tied to Sony. I will no longer support those fucks but yes this is a big W, hopefully Arrowhead wont go with them again with their next game
Next battle: Uncensor Stellar Blade or release Stellar Blade on PC
Do you mean phony?
"we're still learning"
insert spongebob "how many times do we have to teach you the lesson, old man" meme towards Sony
I love the young people
I Don't think that is the end of the deal.
That's just corpo speak for "our shareholders are shitting themselves and told us to fix our mess". Sony has to be mind-numbingly sheltered or egotistical to think this was a good idea to force on Helldivers 2 several months after release.
They are not learning. They are always testing waters
In there defense they are new to "not a fan boy market "
I assume what happened is behind the scenes Sony found out they were breaking the law in multiple jurisdictions and decided to backpedal. They then chose to pretend to backpedal based on consumer backlash. They will still be looking for ways to do this in the future either in helldivers or a future project. Expect to see more quality indie studios captured into working with Sony on dream projects where a Sony account is required on pc from launch.
This is the first time something other than demoralizing has happened in the gaming scene in years, maybe we should start going ham on bs like this more often
Asmon goes offline right before Sony makes this announcement
Editor: _puts on infinity gauntlet_ Fine, I'll do it myself.
Let's hope the Ghost Of Tsushima fanbase can do the same.
GOT devs already said they wont do it this way, i just saw this somewhere cant add the source, check on it you will find out i guess.
Editor is all-powerful. He doesn't need a mere trinket like the Infinity Gauntlet.
@@dindunuphenwongWhats happening with that game?
@@trashweaboo3408 People are talking it will require PSN account
The fight isnt over. Theres still enemies within. This wont be the last time they try to fuck everyone over
Yeah. They only let up because it would've been a huge issue for folks that bought the game in countries where you can't register a PSN account. Otherwise, they'd have no issue forcing this change down our throats.
But we’ll give them the same walloping we did!
maybe not but we will be ready FOR SUPER EARTH!!
I actually do think this was the last time. They learned a lesson here and they responded quickly.
Whose they?
In the midst of "It's so over." I found there was, within me, an inevitable feeling of "We're so back.".
"you get enough people together you can do anything" - Asmongold
Fkn editor didn't even wait for asmon. This is truly the editor's channel, and asmon is just living in it.
Always has been.
(And as Asmon always wanted)
Asmon has leveled up again. Hes now farming editors lol. Infinite automatic content machine !!!!!! OMFG TOP G !!!! =P
It's editors world
So this is Ed-mongold's channel now? I'm here for it lol
Good guy Valve. Those unrestricted refunds were definitely telling.
Sadly they denied mine for their usual reasons so I don't think it was totally unrestricted.
@@Bailey2468 you have to word it properly
Guarantee that’s the deciding factor.
If steam steps in of their own accord: you are in big trouble as a company.
@@Bailey2468 I dont think they where "unrestricted" in that sense. You have to be in one of the restricted zones and make that clear in your communication. According to what I have read, you should then automatically get your refund, but if you dont live in such a region it would be rejected, as well if you dont say thats the reason. Or you encounter a nasty mod I guess, but they are not known to have mods that would risk their job if you make a case out of it.
@@bitharne probably a L take but i think valve genuinely cares about gamers.
Fellow Hell Divers, we have PURGED THE AUTOMATON THREAT
This has a set a new, hopeful precedent: We as consumers _do_ have power, and we wil destroy the products we love if we can't have them as how they were advertised.
When "im doing my part" actually works
Implying that it never worked before?
It always works. Mostly of the time almost nobody does their part. But when they do, change happens.
@kesamek8537 it'd just very uncommon sadly. Like games getting turned into p2w not enough ppl do anything just complain in areas don't matter
"We're still learning what is the best for PC players"
Lesson number one: Don't treat PC players as console players.
It's all about freedom.
You shouldn't even treat console players with anti-consumer practices, period. Sony has a lot to learn.
@@DamienDarkside our console brother's have dealt with this for so long alot of them see this kind of stuff as a norm and are content the few who are not normally end up moving to pc at somepoint
Lol and yet PC players need to do a Ubisoft account, an Microsoft account, an EA account, a Paradox account... Most of them are as hypocrites as the liberals and wokes.
@@Rafesco ive been on pc for 14 years now and have 200 games on steam and i don't have any of those account's
@@Rafesco but did those account locked out the game you alredy purchased especially because it become mandatory ? that was the critical mistake for sony as publisher distributing the game. this outrage does not happens because of that yes the hyphocrite issue this first if it was not the above mistake the issue will be died down fast without outrage.
That's amazing, but it's still removed from the steam stores in those countries though right?
After all, how quickly Steam reverses that on their platform shows how quickly Sony may try and be scummy again.
It is indeed a great day for gamers. But I would encourage users who left negative reviews based solely on the Sony account linking dilemma, to go back in and change their review to whatever it was prior.
This is too good of a game to allow a negative review to be permanent for a feature that has been changed. It is also an excellent sign that the developers, and actually Sony for once, have listened directly to the fans.
Mine doesn't change.
Still negative for the horrible weapon balancing and anti-fun game direction of making everything equally shit to use.
@@CallMeKevan well a negative review based on a different feature is fine with me. I don't agree with it, but a gameplay based review is good.
Mine will not change until Sony cleans house and uncensors stellar blade
@@blazinpuffs I don't think a review for one game based off your dislike of another game makes any sense, but I suppose you can do as you wish... 🤷🏻♂️
Arrowhead: "IT'S AFRAID, IT'S AFRAID!!"
Helldivers 2 Community: **CHEERING***
EDIT:Sorry dudes, but i just stole this comment. I surrender myself to the Democratic Execution Squad.
I get that reference
@@krajicsek13 And I get that reference too
I don't think Arrowhead can really claim a part in the victory. Hell they at best were just laying over and taking it, and at worst they put us in the situation. But I do like the Starship Troopers reference..
Not gonna lie, i can totally see a bunch of scenes from that movie in my head with bad overlays and inserting dubbing that changes the whole context of the movie into nerds rebelling against Sony - from bug monsters being replaced with good reviews that when shot turns into bad reviews, the meteor that hit Buenos Aries to being a giant wall of text saying PSN accounts are mandatory, and finally the Sony CEO face on the brain bug. - It's almost ironic how well it fits.
Honestly, Arrowhead are just as guilty as Sony. Maybe even more so.
THIS IS THE BIGGEST WIN SINCE THE CREEK, BOYS.
NEXT MAJOR ORDER: ISRAEL
@@Qwertype315seriously you had to make it political?
@@Qwertype315 Just had to go there didn't you, ugh
@@Qwertype315Yes, defend Israel!
This is the biggest Live Service W in the history of Live Service W's.
Gamers have all the power. Their only weakness is being unwilling to use it.
This truly is a "we did it boys" moment.
love how the editors didnt wait for asmons reaction
‘We’re still learning what’s best for PC players’
Leaving them alone. You’ve sold them the game, your job is done.
"We're still learning what is best for PC players"
What they really meant...
"We're are still learning about how much bullshit we can get away with before any real pushback"
but we want to sell our HARWARE uughhHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Comeone guys just stop using PC's and buy our overpriced game machine! !!!!! We have factorys and everything!
Literally, if they just left them alone, money would keep on flowing. People were willing to spend it on Helldivers 2 just cause they liked it so much.
All they had to do was Nothing and they would win.
I think more worry about loss money 😂.
My point exactly
I can't believe gamers won this once... I'm speechless
And now gamers are being cuckolds positively rating the game again like they forgot what Sony did, Sony didn't learn their lessons and gamers are still smoothbrain
I don't know if "won" is necessarily what they did. In the process they lost a lot of their sanity, time, and energy, over some stupid corporate greed nonsense which should have never happened in the first place. Sony lost pretty much nothing but ratings on a game it's already done selling, The only thing they've learned is that next time a developer says they don't have PSN linking at launch but will add it later they'll force them to add it for launch or sue their ass, as they'll have made it ironclad in the contract that the game is a PSN exclusive. So ultimately, all the people who would have lost this time, will still lose next time, and all the times thereafter.
Not just won, but we beat a big corpo, the best kinda victory
@@captainhuntank7963 v, is that you?
happy ending but what took them so long to respond the weekend?
Holy fuzzy cat. The players have spoken\screamed\scratched and we won.
Helldivers still restricted for sale only in countries with PSN.
Gamers have NOT won yet.
6 months from now... Sony tries this again... just wait
its like an abusive relationship lol
or with another game
They wouldnt dare
@@mandzph Oh they are doing it to Ghost of Tsushima multiplayer and this time they've "learned their lesson" so they're being upfront about it.
@@mandzph im afraid Ghost of Tsushima is on the list
Something I have learned from Johnny Depp court cases coverage: *Don't celebrate too soon*. Doubly so when big corps are involved. Stay vigilant, Helldivers. The enemies of Managed Democracy never sleep, nor slumber, nor hibernate, nor nap.
Yes. The last sentence is worrisome. And they are still listing PSN requirement.
Do not relent yet.
I just cancelled my refund request but my review will stay until they actually commit to not requirering PSN.
they also still didn't get the game back to steam for 177 countries where it was pulled of the shop
@@ereder1476 i think and hope it will just be optional as it was before.
I have a PSN account, gladly I don't have any credit card there and neither on steam.
@@h0ll0w54 maybe it will be added again. I hope it happens.
@@tio_john until they make an official announcement and change the store page, people shouldn't change their review .
It's just a single twitter post. A steam update caused the backlash, they need to show more than a deletable and non binding twitter post
Just have separate databases linked at the backend via API for duplicate matching. You just have to write the PC one so that it will scale with AWS. I think they just do not want to spend the money to potentially host user data twice.
"Future plans..." you know they will try again, and again, and again.
The cynical part of me remembers all the time we "won" against publisher for them to force same thing later on when drama slows down
Oh they are probably going to try something else eventually, but most likely it will at least not lock half the goddamn planet out of playing the game. The forced linkage as one issue, how they would essentially boot over a hundred countries from playing the game alltogether was another.
This, negative reviews should stay and people should refund. Financial failure is only thing that will have lasting effects. I bet they will force PSN account on everyone soon, they will be stealthy about it or they make it optional but will lock half of game behind it.
I'd say the unethical scammy part of this situation has been solved by them not 'stealing' the game back from all the people who bought it who didn't live in one of the PSN countries. Doesn't mean they won't start making everyone sign in to PSN on game launch for every game they make from now on. I don't think that is a particular problem or violation or scam, even if it is really annoying. I know I don't trust any big company not to screw me over, especially a gaming company. The important part is that they aren't taking people's money and they pulling a Darth Vader and changing the deal afterwards to deny people access to the thing the bought for no real reason.
@@wykydytron I wouldn't lick the developers over a mistake the publisher did. Negative reviews should be directed towards sony and playstation
@@wykydytronThis is your solution? To make Arrowhead Studio suffer and to kill the best live-service game we've had in years?
Yeah not a chance.
imagine pissing off a community who killed 2 billion bugs in 1 day. BIG W FELLOW HELLDIVERS!!!!
STEAM WILL ALWAYS BE MY GOAT... THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING PPL TO REFOND HELLDIVERS 2
I still can’t wrap my head around how 2 billion bugs were killed in a single day. I didn’t even play that day.
We got trained as a community to work together for the common goal. This is beautiful!
it wasn't even a day it was just 14 hours
🥳
12 hours 😅
We dive as one, or not at all.
This victory is glorious.
Ghosts of Tsushima has 3rd party account linking to PSN on the store page just like helldivers did. Clearly they haven't learned what's best for PC players
Helldivers 2 has been liberated o7
Now we need to liberate Stellar Blade
Not yet, Sony will do crap
I'm not a Helldiver, I'm with the bearded crew that kills bugs underground, but I have been watching this Sony drama since it started. Way to go Helldivers. What a response by a community. This was an awesome saga to watch. Congrats on this win. Democracy and Liberty prevails! Join me at the Abyss bar next time you're around, I'll buy you all a beer. Rock and Stone brothers!
All bug killers stand togethether, from the skies or under the super earth.
Rock and stone brother
ROCK AND STONE!!!!!!!!!
Rock and Stone!
DID I HEAR A ROCK & STONE?? 🤘🏼
This really shows the power of community. Fucking amazing to see.
Update so Big, Editor had to make the reaction himself instead of waiting for Asmon. BigW, Helldivers.
Yep, Ed knew Asmon would waffle before getting to it so he served it right up. 😂
Sony, who has been in video games for over 30 years: "sorry, we're still learning, oops"
yes man because the gamers now are different then gamers before, the playground its continuously changing and before they could get away with this but not today...so yea they are still learning and tbh I'm happy with their decision
Sony should just learn to make more games similar in quality to their exclusives, that's the real gold vs tapping into forcing pc users to pay ps plus.
@@caddyinvictus No one ever in the history of the world loved to do something they were forced to do.
@@caddyinvictus wait...so you actually believe Sony when they said that they had to learn that it was bad to force players to have PSN even in countries that didn't have it available?
Not defending them but Helldivers is the first online game that they’ve put on PC
Man we really needed this W, GUD JOB BOYZ!!!
That was the best response to the problem they created. It wasn't the wisest since a person shouldn't put themselves in that position.
Remeber when you used to be able to buy a console, buy the game for it, and play the game right away? No download, no sub, no account, no patches, you just played the game. Crazy concept wasn't it
Absolutely not. Because in 2009 Diablo 3 was doing this shit, I was screaming at it, and nobody cared. I cannot get onto my diablo 3 that I paid $90 for because of battlenet authenticator being lost on an old phone and blizzard refusing to reinstate it.
We get what we fucking deserve. 15 years I have been screaming at this, nobody gave a fuck.
Damn what a restarted statement except for the subscription part
easy to play and easy to lose everything
Day 1 patches existed on the ps2, it's just that nobody ever connected them to the internet because you had to take the case off and attach an adapter.
@@Allen-qs2xrHistory didn’t begin in 2009 bro
the evil has been only repelled but not vanquished
keep your heads up
Stay on guard
Dont worry Bro if we did it once wey will do it again
LET THEM TRY!!!!
Time for Stellar Blade battle.
This is monumental like how Sonic fans bullied Paramount into re-designing Sonic's initial look for the first Sonic movie. lol
Thank you editor for bringing this information to us
Not yet, Sony pretend shits
As a SEA bro that got affected by the PSN account linking situation, I'd like to thank the HD2 community and Arrowhead for standing their ground against a titan like Sony. I truly love the game and I'm happy that I will no longer lose access to it.
No helldiver left behind, welcome back home
Just buy a console.
@@youtubeenjoyer1743or just play the game on the hardware you have
Same here. I'm glad that we SEA players can keep playing without PSN bullshit
@@youtubeenjoyer1743 consoles are for teenagers, adults have jobs to do that require PC.
It's not over. The fact that they did this without saying they will NO LONGER REQUIRE account linking, is proof that there will be an attempt down the line. This is pretty much how corpos work. They will exhaust the opposition by pretending they gave up.
Gamers never learn 🤦♂️
Normally, yes. But you're failing to see how significant this was. This was over the weekend. The CEO had to be called in on a weekend. 'Never again' territory here. There will be vast changes. They're already rethinking this entirely, it was the plan for all their future games.
Remember, it isn't because they hate us, they don't care, accounts sounds good to a corpo. 'People are fine with it' 100,000+ refunds and 144 countries blocked from sale is the way they see evidence of the cost. It used to look good to shareholders, accounts. Now it looks very bad. None of them know anything about the particulars you see. That's why its so crap, actually. 'Make our players have accounts with us like microsoft so we can tell shareholders' is the only thought and last the decision makers had to do with it.
Somehow, Sony returned
They won't unless they somehow convince Steam to stop offering refunds.
The theory a lot of people have is that they will implement it as an optional thing for in game rewards or something
now we just need uncensored stellar blade back.
Thank god gamers are one group that are united. If it was any other group for any other reason, they would have split the group in half fighting about something until everyone forgot what the problem was.
2 billion + 1: a story of when Gamers took on the corpos and won.
Eh I wouldn't celebrate just yet let's see what's Snoy's alternative will be
@@DanteVerde-pt9zcabsolutely, this isn't a win yet. But if it does work then this is probably going to be a RUclips title eventually.
It's rare, but the internet can unite against certain stupid decisions by people in charge who have terrible ideas...like the Sonic movie being forced to fix Sonics design because he looked gross
also still delisted in most countries
@@fuji4077 This basically just happened so it should get fixed by tomorrow
Now get rid of the community moderator that was fanning the flames.
They're all LGTV Mouthpieces and wont be removed, otherwise Sony would lose their ESG score....NOT happening...
I think at least some of them did add gasoline to the fire on purpose to push players over the edge and leave the negative reviews they needed to properly negotiate with Sony.
@@kanavkohli794 LGTV (*/ω＼*)
@@kanavkohli794LGBT is fine, it’s just they are ex reddit mods or something so they are always passive aggressive
You mean the same one that also told everyone to leave negative reviews, refund the game etc specifically because it gave them more power to force Sony’s hand? That manager?
Snapping at a bunch of angry comments blaming the company for stuff they’ve no control over briefly is not a reason to be fired
Everyone needs to take a page from the book of Sonic fans when that first movie was coming out. Go "REEEEE" loud enough and long enough as a group and you can influence change.
I feel like this was the CEO of Helldivers 2 plan all along
this was really effective method of flushing out bad community managers
This is unironically so true
natural selection at its finest
So I guess you could say that bugs were flushed out then? 🤔
Now all they have to do is let players in countries without PSN access buy the game on Steam again
That's a steam thing. They'll have to get around to addressing it on their end.
@@SuperEarthMinistryOfTruth-SE no that's a Sony issue, they choose where games are sold they have access to changing that stuff, I know because I've used the steam developer portal before
Yeah game can not be bought here in Moldova. And we are neighbours to Romania which is an EU country
@@johnny2598 Don't even think it's an EU thing, my friend from Lithuania (EU member state) discovered he's locked out as well
@johnny2598 not all eu countries have PSN, Sony generally shits on everyone outside of USA and UK.
"COME TOGETHER, RIGHT NOOOW...OVER MEEE"
"your feedback has been invaluable" well that's one way to put it
"We are sorry, we didn't realise it was bad for PC players to brick their game of half of the player rendering it impossible to play for a product they payed for. We are still learning."
Ruining such a popular game to catch more people in their net is just scummy, this is not learning, it's damage control. They just try something else next time to see what they get away with. This time they just took a too big bite.
Most companies, yes, in this case, its Sony, who genuinely is just that incompetent.
Remember, boys. This is *not* a "Sony W". This is a massive Sony L.
Never let them forget that we remember the shit they tried to pull.
It's a W, because they could have left it that way. Just like Ubisoft always does.
@@KingNiros exactly. They could have doubled down and started insulting players like other companies do (Budweiser style lol) but instead they walked it back. Not used to seeing that these days. Good on Sony.
It's definitely a massive Sony L but hey at least they learned pc players can't read a store page so linking accounts probably won't be necessary for future games
@@KingNiros Did you forget who's decision it was in the first place?
"Sure he got blackout drunk and drove a block down the road, but he didn't hit anyone this time! Drunk W!"
@@-Miasimon Horrible analogy.
The steam reviews are going to look like that one density simulation meme
Still not official, Steam still has the requirement listed and they still have the game's forums removed. Also notice the 'we'll keep you updated on our future plans,' part. What exactly does that mean?
After all it's not a promise NOT to bring it in at all but rather "how to move forward". Stay vigilant Helldivers!
THE FIGHT ISN'T OVER
Next missions:
- Restore purchasing to those 177 countries.
- Fire / Remove Baskinator, Spitz, Misty, and purple squidgeon or w/e the hell he's calling himself now (he changes it every time he massively pisses off everyone in the discord).
Nah discord team is based
Finish the fight. That's right.
Unless he said something really bad, I think people need to grow a pair and accept that other people have different opinions. You really think someone should lose their entire job because they made you upset?
@@xx_amongus_xx6987Slander isn't an opinion, for purple's case. Dunno about the others
@@xx_amongus_xx6987 The "community managers" were openly antagonistic and hostile to the customers. If I did that in ANY service industry job, I would expect to get fired.
Records will show that Sony broke before the Divers did
Cadia reference?
@@shazmodeus2795 ;)
If only warhammer fans could have said the same for gw...
The Emperor protects, I will allow myself a small glimmer of hope but I have been slowly loosing interest anyway since a lot of the announcements.
@@TheShadowForgeStudio The influence of Chaos is strong at this time and the Imperium is being assaulted from all sides, including within. I just pray the Emperor's will is strong enough to withstand it.
I’ve never seen such a big Uno reverse card. That’s a real community, the Helldiver community.
All they have to do is give in game skins and exclusive gun or support for linking and not require it. I bet a good deal would if they were desirable and unique.
I haven't felt this happy since the D&D community fought back against Hasbaro's unethical attempt to change the OGL to profit from third party companies and won against them, forcing them to keep the old OGL and make it even more third party friendly.
Now if only they had fought back against the wokeification of DnD
@@kutarkTell me you are joking right now, I am laughing my arse off.
@@kutark "wokeyfication"??? For DND of all games??? THE gay game?? LMAOOOOOOOOO
@@kutark What? I know there was some talk about removing the phrase "race" when making your character but that change never took place iirc. Did something happen?
D&D is as woke as Helldivers, one could say 😉
This isn't a win, this is a reprieve. Sony _will_ try this again, either with Helldivers (Arrowhead went against Sony wishes by fighting them, there is going to be firing/layoffs after this) or with another game under their purview.
and when they try this again, they'll be met with the same response. Enjoy the victory.
They will. The studio for Ghost of Tsushima has already confirmed that multiplayer mode will require a PlayStation log in. Single player mode will not require the log in.
i never once believed Arrowhead went against sony, after all, they 100% knew what they were doing all along and went with sony's plans.
"The cost of freedom is eternal vigilance"
All companies will.
Future plans ie. slowly encouraging players to link to PSN with little bonuses until the majority were coerced to link to PSN then they will enforce linking again.
Super Earth: 100.000% liberated.
I have never played Helldivers 2 before, but man am I so happy for what this community has done.
Ruined the developers ratings thus making it looks like a shit game and will prevent future sales? lol
@@DrewH50 Stopping people in 177 countries from playing the game, allowing sales in said country despite knowing this is a shit game. Not being able to play a game, is a shit game.
@@toad7395 It's the process in which this was done. You essentially vandalized a building until they were like "stop vandalizing the building" instead of just not going inside that building altogether. Now you can go back in, but look at all the graffiti you goofballs left behind. Game will forever be known as "Mixed" or "Mostly Negative"
Same, but I do plan to buy it when I have the time for a new game. I wasn't going to if the change stayed.
@@DrewH50 How else do you expect Sony to take notice then? You really think they'll take back the PSN announcement without all this damage?
They didn't reverse the decision based on good will from the feedback of players like they say here. They did it because Steam forced them after the illegal change on the TOS.
EVEN BETTER
Oh wow
do you have the source? I tried finding it but couldn't, I'm interesting this lol
they didn't change the ToS. they changed approach to enforcing ToS from factually optional to mandatory PSN. so idk what's this "change of the TOS" about
@@stclaws9580 Having something that is "optional the entire time" to now "part of the time" is still changing the TOS. What would happen if they change of what would happen should they ban you, from "now you can't log into any PlayStation Network" to "you can't log into any Network and must give us your PlayStation".
The fact that even arrowhead was on player side
"The impact of requiring a linked account on our stock will be negligible."
Sony probably.
"Another victory for the right side of history..."
How long 'til they come back at it💀
A week tops
Dont worry Bro if we did it once wey will do it again
LET THEM TRY!!!!
@@javsvilsan3022Yes, WE WILL COOK
Few months
Who knows? But if it happens again I'll join you guys.
Fighting against tyranny worked the world makes slightly more sense now
I don't play multiplayer games, yet I still think this has to be one of the best Moment of victory for is Gamers!
People realizing when they stand together, they can bring down mega corps and governments:
@purplesky135 Yeah, for real. And the worse part is that some of them would be in the side defending the corpos.
@@tkraid2575 because siding blindly with some wishywashy rebel alliance who in many ways are just as bad is silly, make your won decisions and think for yourself
FED FED FED FED
@@tkraid2575 it's cope man. Some executive realized post hoc he could add x million psn users and tried forcing the devs hand. For the decision to be reversed so quickly is simply impossible if it actually came from Sony Corporate.
@@Redcloudsrocks Tf are you saying, in what world going against corpos and gov can somehow be a wrong side?
Glowie.
One individual gamer, like a solitary ant, may seem insignificant. Yet, never forget that when we band together as a community, we are mighty.
Let us take a moment of silence to remember those who uninstalled and refunded their games in protest. They sacrificed countless hours of playtime, progress, and achievements for the good of gamers everywhere. They are the fallen heroes. They are the real ones.
From today on, this will be *"Independence Day",* a yearly event, honoring those still in & gone, in support of reaching the same goal !!
Individually a single stick is weak, prone to bending and snapping, but when many sticks come together into a fa.... bundle they become strong.
Something in the video made me think "who are all these people going "just sign up it takes 2 minutes, dont you own a phne blah blah" and looked at the steam profiles, nearly all were made up just to go onto the steam forums and spew their crap. Unbelievable . Really makes me wonder how many were from Sony themselves now.
The whole "future plans" thing is what scares me. Sony will fuck this up again
*HOLD ON! THIS IS NOT OVER YET!*
The post says that :
_"...the PSN account linking on May the 30th will not be moving forward."_
*BUUUT!*
They can STILL try again on June the 30th or July the 30th or any time in the future. Or try to implement it under the cover somehow, for example their TOS still does not have any changes implemented.
Also, it says *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING* about the de-listed countries who were literally banned form purchasing Helldivers2 just because of the countries they live in!
Do not celebrate too early Helldivers! Sony's war against us *IS NOT OVER!* We must stay ever more vigilant and on guard!
^ *Words to Live By.*
Please don't let tout guard down, fellow combatants.
Leaving tactical dot for when they pull another trick from under their sleeve, and this becomes true. I'm hoping it doesn't though!
Steam pulled availability after reports came in pending the may 6th changes previously.
@@FORTEtheSECOND the moment they try to bring it back, all those reviews are turning back to negative reviews and people will stop playing...
"Also, it says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the de-listed countries who were literally banned form purchasing Helldivers2 just because of the countries they live in!"
And let's not forget: That was a RESULT of the boycott itself. The game still would be sold in these countries, and the players would be able to create an TOS violating account PSN in a different country (which is normal practice in Asia for example) and STILL play. So the boycott did harm too.