Commander Etiquette: Get Invited Back to Game Night
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2023
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Being the archenemy is a compliment
It definitely can be!
Its simple you are the Biggest threat, or all other Players just don`t like you or your Deck, even if you Play Level UP
Earning the archenemy slot is an achievement a deck earns, especially when it's not that strong. If you're playing Narset/Godo you're openly declaring archenemy and should expect and enjoy it. If you're the archenemy because you're just playing gold that day, that should be fun. I love my Ramses deck because it creates insane archenemy situations like the entire board defending an Edgar deck with 90 life and Exquisite Blood in play because I win the game by hitting him just once, and that feels great.
Exactly. But I don't like when someone positions themselves in a commanding position and act like "what did I do?"
Buddy you have 38 power with lifelink, a ghostly prison, and twice the land anyone else has on board.
Depends. ArchEnemy because your the biggest threat, yes. Sometimes your just “doing the most” even if it’s insignificant and catching trigger happy removal.
Honestly this video is perfect for my anxiety, I constantly worry about if other people are having fun playing against me
Hey amigo, magic is fun! And if youre at least a little considerate, Im sure everyone is having a blast 😁👍
I always feel bad when I do a strong play like I'm ruining everyone else's fun.
I know on the spot it's hard, but you can always ask, pretty sure everyone's usually always fine and you'll feel better after :)
I vs my bro with paper over webcam or arena and we do really nasty plays against each other but it’s all fun an games tbh can get a bit disheartening but that’s just how it is
My God, the no drinks at the table rule is so essential. My friend had a powered cube, real power, not proxy, and decided it would be fun to teach his girlfriend's little brother how to play... Kid spilled a whole glass of water all over the table. The lil bro of course had no idea how expensive the cards were, and barely reacted. Everyone else dove to pick up the cards as fast as possible. Somehow, Miraculously, nothing got water damaged, and I don't even think it was double sleeved.
That's so scary!!!
@@NitpickingNerds mortifying!!!
Hadn’t considered that. Just started playing Magic again and I’ve been taking a Hydro Flask cup with a integrated straw. I think something like that is kosher. After reading your comment I tested it full and flipping it on its side. A few drops might come out the straw end but it’s pretty much sealed. Without knowing it I got the drink solution for the table 😅
I always put my drink on the floor lol
Honestly, I don't even have cards THAT expensive but I make sure mine are sealed inner sleeved and outer sleeved at a minimum. Whether it's because I love my cards or because maybe one day I'll end up wanting to sell them if I'm 60 and just don't need or want them, I think it's always a good investment to protect your cards as much as possible. It's also why I REALLY appreciate the players who are very gracious and ask kindly to touch your cards or pick them up to read them instead of those who just casually grab at anything to read it or whatever they're doing.
One of the biggest for me is that you should help other players learn the game and play better. Sure you can correct them on the rules, but also show them more optimal lines and help them understand their own cards. We aren't playing in a tournament, so while helping them out might lead them to win the game, that's not really a bad thing. This is especially true if you are in a pod with people that are less experienced than you are.
This for me feels kinda like backseat gaming
Ask them *after the game/turn* whether they want to hear your line. You dont have the informatiom they have or they might not want to get unsolicited advice.
read the room tho. Having some "sage" explain your own deck to you can be extremely annoying when you're not asking for advice. i've been teaching my nephews at home and i love helping people get into the game, but sometimes when i go to the LGS i'm expecting a smoother game than what i get at home and trust that each player knows what they're doing unless there's a reason to think otherwise.
seconding this @@Fausto_4841
@@Fausto_4841 I agree. It needs to be helpful in a genuine and simple way, and not in a "I know better than you way". For example, it isn't helpful to tell someone how to take their turn, or that they should do it differently, but it is helpful to walk a confused player through the proper timing of their game actions. In other words, help people who need/want it, and leave other people alone.
Instead of making it your goal to win in edh, if you make it your goal to meet new potential friends and learn how their decks work during play, you'll avoid so many problems that edh players face. Winning isn't even all that great unless everyone can say it was a good game. And it mostly will be if everyone is laughing and having fun.
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Consensual shortcuts are fun. Have played in groups with shortcuts as loose as letting a player look at the top of their library-- while exclaiming "cheat-a-peak"-- to see if it's a land and they can just play their hand rather than mulligan. No one has an issue with it and given the size and awkwardness of shuffling an EDH deck it can save a decent amount of time.
❤ This is gold
My group does this all the time to make sure we can get in as many games as possible (: makes keeping more odd/fun hands more possible!
One of the things i hate about the social contract is that it's basically "don't mess with green." Oh it's turn 5 and the green player has played 10+ lands, sorry you can't punish them for overextending, but that white player, they played a signet and thus that has to be removed at all cost or else people might think it's a functional color.
I tried to have the rule zero talk with a guy who wanted a pick up game a few months ago. I told him about my deck and strategy to help him understand my power level. Then he refused to tell me anything about his deck! So I told him that’s fine but I’d find other people to play with. This isn’t a modern Grand Prix. He might play a new person once, but then the cat’s out of the bag anyway. No reason not to be transparent to have a better game for all involved.
Beezy out of context: "conceding the game does not increase your win percentage" 😂
#PROTIP
Hot take: Spite plays in the same game are perfectly valid. I cannot stress enough that it has to be in the same game. If commander is truly a social game then revenge is valid. It's part of the politics and the fun of the game. I don't think every move has to be the exact correct play. In my opinion that's what makes Commander so fun. If I can get away with getting some revenge in without really advancing anyone else on the board, I will always choose revenge. Lol if I'm about to pop off, I prepare myself to take an ass whooping lol
That no drinks on the table rule is a MUST with my group. Unfortunately, still manage to spill Big Gulps every once in a while 😂
See one of my biggest pet peeves is fast land, I don't think anyone should complain because they'd rather stick to using guildgates instead of even getting more budget friendly "quicker" lands like pains or check lands etc
I own all the shocks and fetches and triomes so I'm gonna use them.
On the same topic I'm not gonna complain when people use their OG duals when I'm using everything below them
Too many lands? Have you heard about the obscure MLD method? 🧐
I have had being mindful of others time backfire hard but I still try to do it. I Enlightened Tutored after combat on the turn before mine and announced I was doing this EOT but starting now to save time but if someone was effecting the topdeck I'd wait. This opponent pauses and stops playing, so I again explained to him "I'm not doing this now, don't play around my tutor". He just stares at me and waits for me to tutor and put it on top of my deck. He then plays Ashiok and targets me with the mill. I just scooped, walked away, and talked to him after awhile. He still refused to acknowledge his douchey move even after I explained my intent was to save everyone's time rather than make them wait for a search and shuffle.
I remember one time I had to talk a dude into killing me. I was like dude, I have the game winning combo on the board. I'm not going to be mad if you finish me off. Spite plays are one thing, but I'll never be mad at you for making the objectively right play.
The archenemy one rings true. So annoying when the person ahead is complaining when you blow up their stuff or target them. Or when they and you know they can pop off next turn even if they don’t have a ton on board.
Played a game where an opponent played two super powerful decks in a row (one even had the mycosynth lattice karn lock) then switched to an upgraded precon and was huffy when I went to counter a mass reanimation spell. I should have outright countered it, but because they were angry, I let it resolve as long as they didn’t attack me. They then proceeded to win the game. The lesson is to not care at all if people don’t like your line because they’ll abuse that to win the game.
@@liberty2087 I have def experienced this as well. They make a big deal out of something because they just don’t want to be stopped even when they should. There is politicking, then there is borderline manipulation. In commander we want everyone to have a good time and that can be easily taken advantage of.
Thanks for the birthday wishes! ❤
Now if only the age of my knees matched the age of my Fifth Dawn printing...
It's weird to me how there's so many points about making sure you change the way you act to play to make people feel good and let people play the game, but then on the other hand you say "kill the combo player no matter what's on board", making sure that the combo player doesn't get to play Magic. I see this a lot and people will gang up on a deck that has a single combo, just letting some other player stomp the game while the combo player has zero fun. It runs to antithesis to the idea that we're here for casual fun and seems to contradict your "no bullying" point.
Yes combo's are scary, but learn to threat assess.
We have said that combo decks are always our targets *if all else is equal* and that sometimes killing a player is the only way to ensure you or others get to finish the game
Combo decks are built around multiple 2 card combos that instantly win, or built to keep a infinite loop going. Having a tutorless deck with Mike and Trike in it is completely different
Played in a pod with a guy who was playing Korvold, "but not THAT Korvold." Said it was a jank, budget, voltron build.
Turn 1 mox diamond into demonic tutor. Immediately became archenemy.
Sounds like a trustworthy guy
I really appreciate this content based on pod culture! I’d love to see more!
sol ring is the one acception i have if someone says they dont run fast manna since yk every deck runs a sol ring
Shortcutting actions is really useful for saving time. Like as one sentence I'll say "Crack my fetch for a shock pay 2 life cast 1 mana card, go ahead" It makes the early turns sooo much faster.
"Oh yeah this ones like a high 7"
*procceds to pregame Gemstone Caverns into Island into Mana Crypt into Mox Diamond imprinting Force of Will into Sol Ring into Dimir Signet into Thoracle into Demonic Consultation turn 2*
mox diamond imprinting force of will?
@@CodeTitanI think he's talking about the imprint mechanic. There's a artifact that allows you to cast instances for free as you attack and there is another one where you can cast a instance for 2 and tap it and cast without paying it's mana cost
ohh okay i see thank you very much @@mando3027
@@CodeTitanprobably meant to say Chrome Mox
The handling of other people's cards is 100% the one that stuck with me the most. I see that line crossed the most and it makes me wince every time someone jabs my cards carelessly with their talon like fingernails.
I like getting invited back to your videos so i say: Thanks for the great videos! 😊
See you at the next one!
It breaks my heart that Narset (extra turn, then win con) is by far my favorite EDH I ever made. I have never played in a 4 player pod, but I know it would be EXTREMELY not fun to play against. I almost wish there was a way to make my clock faster so it didn't annoy people. :(
I thought this was an interesting concept when she came out but had the same concerns about it being unfun. What I did to power it down was play extra combats instead of extra turns. It's easier to whiff, there's less card/resource advantage, and you obviously have to make sure Narset can keep getting in. Unfortunately, you still kind of waste some time but not as much as extra turns. Thought it might help you get to play your favorite at lower power if you want.
You can also still cEDH this too with the unfun stuff. I have like 20 cards to the side that all either protect Narset or do worse, and I can switch them in and out depending on what people want to do. I never even used to carry the higher stuff, but I have a friend who loves cEDH/10 power so I carry it for him if he wants to play that.
@@malakimphoros2164 Exactly. That would solve all my problems. I don't mind making her a cEDH deck, but she isn't near good enough. :( My favorite commander, BY FAR, is too bad for cEDH and too miserable for normal EDH lol
I like to compliment players on their pimp printings of cards they run, always helps bonds with players
Part of the paying attention thing for me is that if im in a situation where i am not able to adequately play either because of another player doing stax or taking long turns. I do occasionally do it as well if im so far behind i cant meaningful affect the board state at all
The Timmy player has to at least bring snacks for the others....
Im watching this with my hands on my Numot deck and I just wanna say thank you!!! You guys reminded me that my play group has been getting soft so I think its time I show that Grixis' aren't the only colors of evil 🙂🙂
Mia really ups the professionalism of the channel, thanks for bringing her on!
I always go through my decks before playing and get as many tokens as I can find that they need, and keep them in the deck box.
Amazing video guys, thank you so much.
Being mindful of other players' time is crucial. When I see a combo coming I usually ask if we're gonna play some more Magic or if we're dead when that player finishes what he's doing. If you're going to kill us, do it fast so there's more time for another game. Watching you take ten minutes searching your library, tapping your permanents and THEN saying we're dead is super annoying for everyone except for you.
If your running proxies let the pod know before you start. When I come into the LGS and sit down and end up unknowingly playing a against a high powered mostly proxy deck it really grinds my gears.
To combine the “revenge” and “don’t argue” nodes, I’m realizing that it may actually be a good tactic to team up with someone if they’re not getting targeted to teach a lesson about threat assessment. “You want to target me? Okay, that’s fine. I’ll just help the person you should be targeting so that the memory of this loss gets burned into your brain for the next time we play.”
I inadvertently built an infinite turn loop with a lux cannon, magistrate scepter and a cloned contagion engine. It wasn't my plan and it wouldn't have occurred to me to bring it up.
No take-backs has been a big one for me. Messing up is a part of the game and the harder it bites you the better you'll remember it next time. Outside of irreconcilable game states like casting a spell you miscount your mana and can't pay for, there's value in learning the hard way and you don't waste everyone's time resetting to before you screwed up.
My biggest pet Peeve is people using casual ReL to rewind plays. Not once, not twice, but over and over. Waiting to see the repercussions then rewind back so they can “make the right choice”
This is a very helpful video, and helps me feel more confident about why I get invited back. One additional tip I think would be helpful: be honest not just about what your deck does to win, but what the spiciest or meanest thing your deck can do is. Like, I play a Kamiz deck with cards like Needle Specter, that could potentially force a player to discard their hand. This doesn't win me the game but it's something I want to be open and honest about anyways.
My group has a few problem children in our group. I will now refer those individuals to this video for reference. 🎉
Hope it works for you!
As an edh eggs player, I can say how important it is to be clear on what you're playing and respecting everyone else's time. I always make sure everyone at the table knows what decks I have, and if it's okay for me to play eggs.
Ive learned to accept my big threats are scary and their going to get removed quick. I play eldrazi tribal and i know as soon as i cast ulamog hes gonna get targeted, so ive just learned to be happy i got to cast him and see his pretty art and mayne get a swing in before he goes down. Accepting big things are ginna die quick helped me a lot when i comes to getting upset or mad about getting targeted
Am i the only one who has a pod that just sits down and plays regardless of what we are useing deck wise everyone has fun even when stomped we can sit at tables with different power levels we break commander politics and dont get salty ET TU brutus? because were not pansies and yet every weekend we all play and laugh and have fun
Why? Our only rules are no banned cards ya know the only rules 😂
That kind of thing works If you're friends that play magic.
@urahara64360 yeah I don't play outside of my playgroup to many autists that think it's more than just a game 🤣
@shaunbeckett9475 yeah my old play group were just people who got together to play and it lead to more issues especially when it was basically one dude pubstomping every week.
15:09 i thought Mia was going to punch me after she said that 😂
Generally good advice for life
I had a dude at my table that drove two hours and lost like turn 6ish lol felt so bad for him but was quick to let him know we we were down for at least two more games. Think that helps if some one loses early.
When my brother takes over 5 minutes to search his library, I'm on my phone.
First time checking the page, but knew that voice instantly
Advice for reducing salt/not being a sore loser: I just try to imagine how happy my opponent(s) are when they’re going off. I often fine just saying, “nice!” In response to opponents countering spells brings up the vibes.
Also if you don’t have infinitokens, you might have paper (junk mail) laying around you can cut up beforehand and use for tokens before recycling the paper.
Rule zero whether you know how to pilot your deck or if it’s new to you and not a style you will be as quick with. It’s great to give others time as time is huge to be aware of but yes be prepared to know what the combos are or what you need to run the deck comfortably 🙌☺️ helps others lots
About token cards, I started putting them in my deck boxes so I always have them on hand.
I think I have a hard time when playing a tutoring card in knowing what I want to pick. For me at least, I seem to get better at knowing what’s best once I become ‘fluent’ in piloting that deck
Being the archenemy is fun!
The only time I wiped someone early was with the eldrazi deck and the built a bunch of mana with no blockers and a full hand. The game was going to tend in 1 or 2 turns anyway, so did not feel to bad
I have a couple of decks that I will ask the pod if it's okay. When I play them, I tell them that it's okay if I am the archenemy. I expect to die first and fast.
15:15 this is the exact reason why I have a "sideboard" of exactly 1 card in my Sefris deck that if other players don't want to play infinite combos, I trade out Reveillark. That one change powers down the deck significantly.
One card out of 99 drastically changes the deck? I have my doubts…..
@@Paul-ls6zv Having the ability to infinite combo and not having that ability is what drastically changes how powerful the deck is. Taking out Reveillark in this case does that especially when you remember that it may be just one physical card but tutors in the deck make it much easier to find.
Is ventmaw and charger in ur dragon considered infinite? I got them in the urdragon commander deck
Just checking... If the soda is warm, do you still not want ice in it?
I've been in games where I became the archenemy because I wasn't playing ANYTHING, and they didn't believe that I just had a horrible start. Those are my favorite games, especially with how little I'm actually able to get out and play any more. It's hard not getting salty sometimes.
EDIT: Back in college (1997 or so), we had someone bring a big gulp and spill it all over everyone's cards (there were 5 or 6 players in the game, lots of OG dual lands, and no sleeves yet). It was not pretty, and the guy wound up spending a LOT of money replacing things.
I habe had those games many a time, where I was like 4 land behind with maybe 1 thing in board and I went to farseek and it got counterspelled because "if you get that fourth land you'll win" side note I wasn't going to win.
Most important video!
My only thing is if i was the archenemy. Get sent to nothing. And still getting focused out of the game while player to my left is balling out of control
A tip I try to give is "Don't give in to vengeance". It sucks when someone steals a card off your library or kills something on your board but don't make things worse in the long run by ignoring actual threats just to blow something of theirs up. It just leads to an unfun cycle of people being spiteful and they end up not wanting to interact or play with you.
Idk on this one, it depends on the people. People being petty as shit back and forth, when everyone knows it's in good fun, can be hysterical, and a lot of fun for everyone
@@thecolonel1457 Oh when it's in good fun that's fine. I'm talking about holding a grudge and purposely making it your mission to take the fun out of the game for someone because they killed your creature or played a card off your library. Then it's just a tense atmosphere and unnecessary.
It's actually wrong to ignore someone over targeting you.
The correct answer is to demonstrate you will respond if someone is hyper-focusing on YOU, so you set a precedent.
@@FlyboyEz3 Oh I don't ignore them. I'm just talking about them ignoring the other players. It always leads to me giving them a smackdown and then watching as one of the other two players wins. Just wish it didn't happen in general because it really makes the game less fun then when everyone is focused and playing their best.
No turn one sol ring is my groups rule😂
"Dont be a sore loser" should be a poster at my lgs. I play with someone that whines for 10 minutes straight everytime they lose but have the greatest time when they win.
What’s the ‘good sleeves’ thing with the dragon shield ads?
I am honest about the decks I play, because not only is it good personal policy, but I find that it also gets into the opponents' heads in some small way.
the wire for the sign kinda looks like a massive crack in the wall
The most frustrating thing for me is when people are being unhelpful to other players, things like being sneaky about their board state, giving incomplete or misleading answers to reasonable questions about board states, and especially trying to pull gotchas on players for play shortcuts the entire table is letting happen that don't significantly affect the game. It's terrible behaviour. This isn't a pro tour with money on the line and the highest tier of player skill where exploiting misplays is the whole game, we are playing with friends at someone's house for zero dollars. Remind the player who hasn't blocked your Ramses that you tutored a card earlier. Step back if someone doesn't play priority right in responses. Let someone who demonstrated the infinite steps just declare their number of repetitions. Anything that makes play smoother and faster, and that helps people win because they played cards better and not because you didn't show or say that one of your discards was Anger or Wonder, is better for the game.
Pubstomping is the worst example of this, and it's so obnoxious it's half of the reasons I only play in social groups now. There is no skill in saying 'it's not THAT Urza deck' and then Urza Wintering turn 3 because nobody killed him. I am content to usually lose because I play decks that are doing things the hard way because that's my choice, but if you lie about playing jank so I get my Grandeur deck out then run a six thousand dollar Godo deck, you're wasting everyone's time. Players whinging that otherwise they get made the archenemy as an excuse when they DESERVE to be the archenemy are pathetic, when being made the archenemy is entirely fair. You made a strong deck, you should be proud of it and declare it openly. I'm excited to pull out my spiciest deck and I'll tell the table to give them all a chance to get out their best.
I've been in multiple situations where someone will go to combat and another player will concede before attackers leaving me to be attacked by all the attackers
This is a perfect video for a newer player like myself! Love it!
I ALSO hate drinking ice in my soda. I don’t want the ice to melt and dilute my drink
This is absolutely the correct take! -Mia
I get weird looks for ordering without ice. Now I feel seen
My deck doesn't have tutors! BUT it does have Light-Paws as a commander lol.
For the longest time, a group of players including myself had convinced the local meta “Spite plays” were bad educate, which was fantastic. Unfortunately, the store changed and “Spiting out” became common place.
I’ve totally gone from “Winning” the game this turn to losing on board to a spite concede, and because it’s “acceptable” I literally can’t complain
Honestly I say don't concede period (with certain exceptions obvi). Like people can do whatever, but I get a bit irked when somebody peaces out on turn 5 and leaves me in a 1v1 with my Breena deck, or leaving us with one less voter for Círdan, or with a slow hand I was banking on making up with Mana Geyser.
I have done some of these things, and I have been on the receiving end of some of these things. The extra turns with no win is annoying.
I recently had a man with staph touch my mana crypt. Home games only from then on.
I will give the same tip I give to rpg players... Think about what you are going to during the other players turns. Hate it when a player untaps and goes "ok, what do I want to do here....hum...."
Unless there was a board wipe just before their turn or something drastically changed, I can see why they’d start thinking then
Thnx for the vid. Its importent to remind oureself somitime, that we all playing the game for fun. Btw is there some cedh gaming from you two in the future?
Maybe! Ik Beezy has a cEDH deck and I am exploring my options in cEDH right now -Mia
@@NitpickingNerds thnx for the answer. Any edh game is also ok ^^
A couple days ago I was playing 1v1 against somebody while waiting for players to arrive- he was playing a cedh level Urza, Lord High Artificer, I'm playing Maelstrom Wander 99 pile, basically
He turn 1'd Urza with a jeweled lotus, but I managed to win, and then he had the gall to complain that my deck was "too fast" for him and didn't play any more games until others arrived
Don't be this guy and you'll make friends
To the token topic: i always put the Tokens that my deck needs into the same deckbox. and i have a seperate box with dice and the most used tokens like treasures
What should you do when your whole playgroup focuses more on talking/hanging out vs playing. Like it took 7 minutes for one of the players the take their turn, others not realizing it’s their turn etc. I’m over here like, I’ve been brewing this deck for a month can we please play?
Which vorinclex are they referring to?
Cause just Voriclex doesn't seem oppressive or anything
the one that doubles mana and stops opponent from untapping once they use their lands
I hate ice in my drinks UNLESS I have a straw. Sensitive front teeth run in the family
ALL HAIL SHADOW! HEROES RISE AGAIN!!!!!!! OBLITERATING everyTHING THATS NOT YOUR FRIEND!!!!
"i dont care".... That spell was just bait for my "BIG BOOTY BOMB GAME ENDER" because im a good little magic player that baits out counterspells
Instead of saying "I don't care", just give them a dejected "ok".
Idk how I'm even the archenemy anymore, I created a minotaur deck years ago, it destroyed buttholes yes, and then came the mono black enchantment deck. Again that was years ago, now in commander I'll be playing a precon out of box(most recent was deep clue sea) and I get targeted immediately and without being the biggest threat on the field. But honestly, it just makes me a better player overall, bring it!!!!
6:47 I don’t understand. If my color pie has blue, adding a time warp is an auto include. That would be like asking a green player not to have ramp or a black player to not have a phyrexian Arena effect.
I love that you guys advocate for empathy in the game but unfortunately most magic players don’t have empathy
Mia is such a great addition to the channel, the least jarring transition in history for me. She's so professional and relaxed on camera!
With regard to poison: Beezy’s not playing “Leeches” in all of his white decks? 😊
Or Solemnity
I want to know how many times it's been mentioned on this channel to concede at sorcery speed. It seems like it's an important unwritten rule..
18:51
"People do need to [...] die"
I feel as though there is a, growing Shadow-y influence over Mia recently. 🤔🦔
Re: Poison. The problem is that it operates on an axis that players cannot interact with. You can lifelink against a burn or aggro deck. You can use targeted removal against combo pieces. You cannot remove poison counters once you get them and proliferate spells can only be interacted with on the stack--so if you're not in blue, you have no recourse. That means player removal is often your only recourse to dealing with it. People who play poison need to understand THAT, that it's not hate being thrown their way so much as they've chosen to play a deck that has a very limited means of interaction. Players don't like to lose so they're going to take the only way to interact possible to them---that means removing you from the game.
We use coaster cup holders
I predict that the add for Moxfield will occur at precisely 13:21
Damn close
Id rather be the archenemy with a few anger inducing cards, so by the end of the night, youll be able to shittalk with everyone, because its fun.
18:23 - on the other hand... being ignored doesn't feel good either. it's been 5 turns, it's ok just end me. the land gods have decided I get none today.
26:41 - Same, love the sound the cards make when you put them down like that. but someone else's card? as gentle as possible.
Genuine ask, what about a Baral player who runs 50 counterspells and their only win condition is don’t lose and Lab Jace Thoracle
The rest of the table can probably cast more than 50 spells total. Counterspells are 1 for 1 and baral player needs it in their hand when another player casts a spell, and the baral player may also need the correct counterspells, depending on spell restrictions.
Basically, baral needs to be drawing an insane amount of cards to keep up, or choose some things that just get to resolve.
Counterspells aren't good.
Keep casting and their hand will run out of action.
@@seththeace6217 I don’t mean to sound rude but I forgot to mention the counter Merfolk (I think lullmage mentor but I can’t remember), the new Jin-Gitaxias, Jace Unraveler of Secrets, and our friend group has a hard time getting together for anything more than 1v1s so the rest of the table is usually just me
7:00 I never understand why people crack fetches on EoT before their turn is about to begin.
The universal rule...everything is fine as long as your the one doing it