Yep. Boise State might be an historic football program but you see what these conferences want. Maryland and Rutgers only got in the B1G because of how Maryland was the Washington, D.C. market and Rutgers is in the NYC Market. All Conferences Want is TV Media Sets and Money
True, but for TCU's case they were a power team then got left out when the big 12 formed. They went back to their rivalries and were in the middle of the conference footprint.
@@sportscastradio8658thank you. I never realized this and to this day it always confused me that Maryland and Rutgers made it into the Big 10, this makes total sense
That game against Oklahoma was the best game I've ever watched, hands down. The hook and ladder call was more impressive than the statue of liberty call. lol
I was at that VTech game front row behind the Boise State bench. Greatest game I ever seen in person with my oldest son it was our second in person Boise State. The first game was the Fiesta Bowl against TCU. After they beat OU I told my son when they make it back we were going and we did. The second greatest game I attended was also with my Oldest son at that time he was my only son and had just turned 4 Sept 91. It was the Lions vs the Cowboys playoff win in the Silver dome to think we had to wait another 32 years before we would see the Lions win another home playoff game. my number three game is probably not one you watched and while I have state I will never return to Fort Collins Colorado .. the whole trip up to the last minutes of game play was the worst trip of my life... but to witness that come back when all seemed lost to watch the drunk on victory CSU fands empty out that stadium up by 3 TD's with less then 4 minutes to go on the cold late Colorado night was one the greatest from all time lows with misery pain and suffer to one of the biggest highs one could experience. After the Team came by as they always do slapping all of us there hands , as they too were on a tremendous high. I streamed the out live on face book from my endzone view which happened to be the one where all the action was, coach Harsin came up in to the stands and talked to each and everyone one of us that were there and shock all of our hands. I'm so looking forward to what this 2024 Boise State team is going to do. every game has been a travel game for me even well maybe not Toledo (which is by far the worst fan base on the planet) or MSU in Lansing as they are both within 70 miles of my home. All other games I have flown to but one My oldest and I drove to the Oky state game and I have to say Stillwater is a great place to go see game. The Stadium is awesome as is their hospitality, them and the Vtech are great people before and after the game. I love my Tigers and I love my Lions but one thing I have never done is travel to see them play so I guess Boise State to me good or bad is must see for me. Lots of irony to how I became a Boise state fan. I am Yooper by birth but lived most of my youth in Mid Michigan, went to Idaho for my second half my junior year & senior year. Play high school for this young looking guy in fact when I first saw him I had no idea he was the coach though he might be like a student aid of some kind. football. I played for Highland High school in Pocatello Id. We wom the state championship and I moved on with my life I did however go to Idaho State and I discovered their that years before when I came out there to visit my dad for the summer and he bought me this T-shirt at Fred Myer it was Black with a blue out line of the state of Idaho and it had a horse read up on it and written on the shirt it said Boggy to you puck at BSU. I wore the shirt to a 8th grade school dance and when my friends asked me what BSU meant I said Bullshit University I had no idea I had never herd of Boise state . The fact is as a student I discovered ISU folks hated Boise State the time Boise was in the Big Sky like ISU was .. So did the natural thing to do was hate them.. Many years past and I had moved my family to the city I was born in Menominee Michigan right on the boarder of Wisconsin. It's the first week of college football 1997 and I was a huge Michigan fan all my youth. I turn on the TV as the Michigan was going to be later and watched the station out of Green bay which was 50 miles away to watch the game Badgers vs Boise State first year in div 1. Wisconsin had Ron Dane Rose bowl bound team the year before beat UCLA play guess who.. Boise State! I'm think well these guys are going to get waxed and I'm suppose to hate them so they beat us in everything when I was in college especial in Football. But shit they they were beating them yeah the first qt they got knocked around a little but as the game went late in the fourth they had taken the lead with just a few minutes to go, they were up by 4. Wisconsin get first and goal at the 7 there is like 1:20 left they had their time out they stuff Dane on 4th and goal from the 3 at the one. I was losing my mind they won the team was doing the same.. Awe but you see Wisconsin gets right back to the like and the clock is still running.. Understand this is a local not a national broadcast the guys call the game from the Booth were locals .. and they like I am go what going on the Big 10 refs gave Wisconsin a 5th down the Boise State Players rush to get into passion and barely got down at the snap and still almost stopped Ron for a second time! Even as time expired the booths guys never stopped talking about the 5th down. 97 year was a losing season for Boise State that being said my boys from Michigan well you know what they did so I had completely forgot about Boise State. Huston leaves and the next time I hear anything about Boise State is Dirk Koetter is the new head football coach at Boise State my senior year head coach in high school. The rest is history. The bond came in the Fresno State Game in 2002 after Dirk pissed me off leaving for AZ. People forget Fresno State beat Wisconsin in Maddison that year and was rank 6th in the nation. To watch those young men fight and scratch and then take the game in the 4th qt created a bond. Yet Boise State was my second favorite team I was after all Michigan man. However I started paying attention and watching more BSU games. To be able to watch some of the Boise games on cable I would have to buy the sports plan to get the out area games so I was watching more and more Boise state game. then came the 2006 season the loss to Appy State, my sons first year in college. Making the trip the Ann Arbor area to watch Michigan games with him. The total destruction of Norte Dame following the loss to appy state was heart warming. Then to watch the local media just pound on Lloyd Carr week after week. His retirement was a result of media and the elites in Ann Arbor it was a disgrace. Then the Snub and belittle Jimmy the press was relentless. He doesn't have coaching experience. You have to understand Bo would take us to the Rose Bowl then lose it until Harbaugh. I was so pissed when there was all the hype talk about Less Miles .. you have to understand the history here Less Miles is a piece of shit he was the reason Gary Moellar got fired. Miles got Mo's wife all lacquered up at a public event then on the dance floor started grouping and kissing on his wife. and Gray fucked him up right there on the dance floor for all to see. Beat his arse. Less was leaving LSU to come to Michigan until West Virginia lost to Pitt moving LSU into the National championship game. I was like ok so now we get Jimmy ... Nope the media double down. Reports that he didn't get along with the Alumni with spread and he lacks the experience to Coach at Michigan lol and all this Michigan man speak, they were doing prior when it was going to be Miles. and they do what" Rich Rod the guy who lost to Pitt ?? to keep his team out of a title game? This is your Michigan man?? LOL If you recall New years morning Michigan played the Gators, Carr's last game heavy underdogs to a Florida team who won the National Championship the year before with the T-Bone at QB that was the last game for many year I had rooted to Michigan. And that night the greatest Bowl game ever played Boise State vs Oklahoma. Stick a fork in me I was done. 2 years later I had to get permission from Boise State to use the domain I had purchased tehblueturf.com. Started posting a blog and and youtubes on my Dartprophet youtube channel. in 2010 a blogging group call blogin had earn some cred getting some of their bloggers post out on sports sites like SBN came to me said they could earn me some cash and give me support. The hitch was I had to give them my domain. Things were going smoothly until 2011. They got bought by Bar stool and that seemed to be a good thing until 2012 Barstool sold the Blugin group to a Chinese company who instantly cut us all out of our accounts. They never did a damn thing with them other then leave our post up for a few years. I got no compensation and to this day they maintain ownership of the domain they don't have Boise States permission to use the domain using any content about Boise State so this is what it looks like today theblueturf.com/ the wont sell it for any number I've tried. But they will never be able to use it for it's intended purposes. Thats how I became a die hard to the grave come hell or high water Boise state fan I still have a fan page on face book but life gets in the way when you are a business man surviving covid and all it's repercussions. That being said I will be putting out a Jeanty Video on my youtube theblueturf channel which I am posting from now. so subscribe to my channel as well I won't give a penny to facebook aka FBi they sell your information and they will sell you to to big brother thats why I don't post of FBi anymore. but hey I have a ton of great content there if you are looking for pre 2020 Boise Vidoe and yeah I have bought all in on all of Boise State teams not just the football team I support them all and in a couple more years my home base is going to be Boise Idaho. Everytime I go there it gets harder and harder to get on a plane back to Detroit. Nice little video keep swing .
It only kept them out of a BCS game, there was no way the committee would've ever let them get a shot. They were terrified of a random team from little old Idaho winning it all they would've made some excuse to have them finish 3rd
I think what gets overlooked is how the Boise program has always been dominant no matter what level they have played at. Their success is not just something that happened around the 2000s. They were the most dominant program in lower level JC football. It’s not like they struck lightning in the 2000s. They are just a smaller school who has excelled at every level of football that they have played As an FBS program they are 272-84. As a football program all-time Since they started playing football in the 1930’s their all-time winning record is 491-168. It’s easy to knock them because they play lesser opponents, but no matter what level they play, they have always dominated the competition. Among all football programs, even the elite top-tier programs, their winning percentage is in the top-10. They deserved to be able to play in the upper tiers of college football more than any other lower-tier program, and even above many of the existing P5/P4 schools that are still in the major conferences. They deserve that respect. They have earned it.
BYU fan here... Boise got screwed. They owned BYU, Utah, and TCU when they were on the same level. From 2002 to about 2014, they were a top 10 program. Went on the road and beat Va tech, Georgia, Oklahoma, TCU, Utah, BYU, and many others. They should be in the Big 12 ahead of Houston.
You’re correct… Boise got screwed and should be in the modern BIG 12. However… I will say… in the 2000’s they never never played the best BYU or Utah teams. Utah had undefeated BCS bowl winning teams in both 2004 and 2008. They beat Utah soundly during rebuilding years in 2006 and 2010. Meanwhile BYU’s program had some really up and down years in the 2000’s. However… they were a legit Top 15 team in 2001, 2006, and 2009… but by luck (or fate) Boise wasn’t on the schedule. There would’ve (could’ve) been some epic matchups… the winner would have come out of those games with a stronger national reputation. Just bad luck. During the realignment chatter in summer 2010… Boise was set to go to the Mountain West…. the conference at the time had Utah, TCU, BYU, with Boise coming on board… that’s an excellent top tier. At the time Larry Scott wanted to add Texas and Oklahoma to the PAC 10… it almost happened… but ended up falling through and the PAC 12 picked up Utah and Colorado… leaving the door open for TCU to join the BIG 12. Weird to think of how the college football landscape would be different today if that would’ve happened.
@@tatemiller9295BYU doesn’t belong in the Big12 but Houston does. Let me name the schools that made either a BCS or NY6 or CFP bowl game who were technically not Autonomous Colleges. 1. UCF 2. Cincinnati 3. Pitt before going to ACC 4. Louisville before going to ACC 5. Memphis 6. Houston 7. Tulane 8. TCU before Big12 9. Utah before PAC12 10. NIU 11. WMU 12. Boise State 13. Hawaii 14. UCONN 15. WVU before going Big12 16. Syracuse before ACC 17. Va Tech before going to ACC 18. Miami before going to ACC 19. BC before going to ACC 20. Rutgers before BiG10 BigEast/AAC days 21. USF when AAC was Big East 22. Liberty You notice some schools missing because they didn’t qualify or were good enough from the list? Because they were not good enough; and therefore, not qualified to be added to the A4 but the other G5 adds were. BYU is not in the Big12 the same way as SMU is in the ACC, but it is not vastly dissimilar as one would think. Any idiot who says Houston doesn’t belong apparently don’t know their big bowl games’ history and don’t know how successful they have been and will be. Can BYU be a winning team in the Big12? Yes. But to say that Boise State should be chosen over Houston, BYU, Cincinnati, UCF, and other schools shows just how little you know and how little respect and knowledge of the game you have and the history. SMU had decent football success and history before being shut down for multiple violations and the return took up until the past 12 years or so for them to take football seriously again sort of. The reason why I pointed out all the schools who made a BCS/NY6/CFP bowl was to point out that several schools that are kind of on the chopping block to be excluded from different types of conferences have made more strides and successes in football than schools currently being considered or have been added to said conferences over the years and years to come.
A couple notes Dirk Koetter (cutter) is back as our OC this season so the fan base is pretty fired up about that. We have one of, if not the best all around running back(s) in the country. Malachi Nelson may not start since Koetter seems to really like Mad Dog and we did win a 3rd Fiesta Bowl after coach Pete left, and there were a few years since then that we narrowly missed out on a bid to AAC teams so we never fell off completely. Avalos did alot to tarnish our reputation the last 3 years but in Danielson we trust, lets go baby 29 more days!!
I agree. I think we are improved across the board, especially defensively, As long as the O-line gives the qb (whomever that turns out to be) time and our passing game is better, that will open up the running game - which will be very very good. I say establish the passing game first. We shall see. Soon!!
Man we looked so much more like Boise state in the 4 games under Danielson than we ever did under Avalos. Also I did not hear that Koetter is back this year, that's freaking awesome. Malachi and Jeanty are going to thrive under him
@@RIPJimmyA7X from what he's said it's another "one and done" however if we win a playoff game or two I could see him wanting to come back and try and dive deeper depending on what the returning prices look like
@@tonylvez I hope so, but NIL $ males it hard to develop players. That’s how they did so well for so long. They developed young 1 and 2 stars with grey shirt and red shirt years into excellent starters. They did this by subbing during blowouts and producing 8 to 9 blowouts a year. Now, though, those developed players can leave for more cash.
@@Desert-Father Boise State had little money yet managed to recruit talent good enough to beat teams like ranked Oregon, ranked Oklahoma, ranked Virginia Tech, ranked Georgia, ranked TCU, and ranked Arizona. Based on talent alone, Boise State is a power football team. But… we lack money and viewership. So what does that mean? It means the power conferences are defined by money, not talent, otherwise BSU would be in the Big 12.
@Lord_Crofts Boise State has a good program but they have only finished in the top #25 twice in the last ten years. Meanwhile, the Power 4 Teams consistently dominate the Top 25 and the CFP. They have talented teams. They would not be able to win so much without talented players. Viewership leads to more money, which allows for the acquisition of more talent, which in turn leads to more success on the field. This is even more true now in the age of NIL money and the transfer portal. Boise State and any other G5 school's best hope to stay at the highest level of college football is to join a P4 conference.
@@Desert-Father I agree with you. My point is this: P4 won’t take power teams like Boise State unless they have money and viewership, thus proving that money defines a power team, not talent. What business does Vanderbilt have being a P4 team? They suck, but they have money and viewership. Same goes for Cal, Nebraska, Minnesota and other teams alike.
I think the 12 team playoff is what CFB needs. It still gives deserving teams like Boise State a chance. A small chance, sure, but it is still a chance.
As long as the non-power representative doesnt automatically play the #1 ranked team they may have a shot. You watch, that will happen. The big boys dont want anyone in their club.
This video perfectly explains why I picked Boise state as my first CFB 25 Rebuild and it’s been feeling so right to have the broncos be good again, only took me 2-3 years before we was able to make it to the championship
@@SaturdayShenanigansYTokay you need to know your stuff a bit better. Houston Nutt led them to the transition from FCS to FBS and had success and got the Arkansas job because of it. The Big West was a FBS conference at that time and had not dropped down yet as was the case for the Big Sky. But before turn of the century was announced with their HC who was Nutt’s successor and good one, pronounced (Cutter), would be joining the WAC. But once again, would be changing course and coaching with the arrival of Dan Hawkins, and you should know the rest although you are too young and too loose with information to rely upon anything. Anyhow Boise State accepts athletes that barely qualify for JUCO let alone D3-D1 or NAIA universities. Like BYU, their academics and academic backgrounds and credentials come under scrutiny and questions as well as their ethics on said academics. T2, C2, R2 are what both universities are and Boise just got to the 2nd level. Now you can be R2 but level 1 in the other areas in academics. Many schools are. But it is how they conduct their business. Had Boise been added over BYU, even though BYU is as big if not bigger draw, they would be left out in the wilderness instead of Boise State. To say Boise State deserves to be in an Autonomous Conference over the four added to the Big12 is ludicrous at best and disingenuous and disinformation. ACC has high standards in academics and schools like BYU and Boise State would never qualify. Houston is very much like their inner city rival in the AAU private school of Rice in academics but Houston has way better athletics. Now could BYU be borderline approved by ACC if they wanted them based on their academics? Yes but barely. Their overall athletics success would be the benefit and oomph to push them through just like in the Big12. Now SMU is R2 but are level 1 at the other academic credentials and standards. Now will SMU get R1? Probably not but don’t say never. But BYU will not and Boise will take about another 30 years or so. Now do I believe they should be in a Power Conference and Big12 in particular? Yes I do but not at the expense of the four G5 schools already added. I would also say Memphis deserves to be elevated as well as all three service academies and probably App State or CCU.
My hometown team, that stretch of football in late 2000’s early 2010’s will forever live in my memories, obviously the 2007 fiesta bowl greatest game ever in my opinion. I’ve met Ian Johnson (game winner in that game) a few different times and he is one the nicest dudes ever. Will forever bleed blue and orange 💙🧡
I remember the first time hearing of Boise State and its Statue of Liberty play against Oklahoma. Then, when we moved to Boise, they played that game for yeeeeeeaaaaars. Now, they are just caught in a limbo. Blue turf is nice but they need to change or they’ll get left in the dust. Also, Kyle brotzman got destroyed after his miss against Nevada. Fun fact, his dad used to referee youth soccer games
I’m not upset Boise is one of the most winning programs for the past 20 years (I’ve never seen Boise have a losing season) our roster is also stacked this year
@@SaturdayShenanigansYT yeah but we’ve consistently won our conference and have some of the best defensive players in the nfl come from us. Leighton Vander Esch & Demarcus Lawrence just to name a few. I’m not upset at you, just more explaining my thoughts on it. Great video regardless
It’s really sad that the NCAA hasn’t always given the smaller schools like Boise State, Utah, UCF etc a fair chance especially in college sports take 2008 Utah for example they were the only team to finish especially after beating Bama and Saban in the Sugar Bowl guess what their ranking was heading into the Sugar Bowl that year being the only undefeated team #6 that wouldn’t have been good enough to make it into the 4 team playoff not too many people know this but Utah actually sent a memo to the NCAA after that Sugar Bowl asking for a playoff which was rejected and not taken seriously it wasn’t until the Bama-LSU controversy that the playoff was considered
That Fiesta Bowl was arguably the best game I've ever watched, but Utah were THE "BCS Buster" not, BSU. 🤷 Did it first, AND did it best. (No other G5 team did anything even remotely as big as absolutely DOMINATING Saban's Alabama basically on the road.)
That utah team also played 11 freshman in alabama that all declared for the draft 3 of the top 15 players Utah got lucky boise proved it time and time again remeber that utah bs talking shit in the vegas bowl what did boise do yeah beat their ass
Lifelong fan here, had HS football camp on the blue and the fall of Boise State can only be attributed to one thing - MONEY - greedy conferences don't want to share money with a TV market that lacks volume and viewers, despite the program's success. I hate CFB now, and hate the big conferences even more for leaving out one of the best programs in the league. Now we're stuck, relegated playing a crap schedule and losing recruits to programs that pay top dollar. F*** college football.
tcu getting thumped by georgia kinda put the last hope of a cinderella in college football to bed unfortunately, especially now in the expanded playoff era
Insane that the Pac-12 would've rather go under than give Boise State an invitation lol. An important u forgot to mention was that Boise State was almost a member of the Big East before that blew up. While the Big East wasn't a Pac-12 or Big 12 it still had an automatic bid at that point but with the implosion of that conference as well as TCU going Big 12 & San Diego State getting cold feet Boise State missed out on that as well.
Boise State in the Big East would've been huge for them. I could've seen them staying there for a bit if it lived, and leveraged that to get a bid from the Big 12 or Pac 12 later on.
@@randomnerd2332 As long as you understand that Boise State is a $5 million school ($5M in TV revenue per year) playing in a conference with $3.5 million schools… hence why the Pac-2 doesn’t want to merge with the whole conference. The value the MWC adds is limited… and the Big East just netted double that while not having football. Better off killing the conferences and trying a merit based system. But I’m not holding my breath for that, because you won’t boycott the current system, and at least as important, you won’t convince fans of bigger schools to do the same.
Here's the thing. We got to rank 7th in 2011 with one loss. Never has been done before in group of 5. Here is the thing though. Boise State was supposed to go to the sugar bowl but got slapped in the face by the BCS by putting Virginia tech and Michigan jn the sugar bowl and nobody was happy. Back in the bcs if you were a group of 5 team and you had one loss. If you win out your conference and get to rank 15 pr higher you got a new years 6 bowl game. Not the case for boise state because the tv viewing and money. Espn trued tixing that by giving boise state a home game contract stating every home game gets to be on espn which is good but the trade off is that every game will start at 8pm or later.
Being a fellow Boise state fan and growing up in Boise I've seen it all with the college football system and it does hurt. Everytime we had a chance ESPN and the AP polls and etc. Would say "oh you beat Georgia at Georgia. You beat Virginia Tech at FedEx Field. Sounds great so here's a 6-6 team at a low level bowl even though you have a Heisman finalist."
It's about time the NCAAF gives Cinderella teams like Boise State, UCF, Cinci, App State, Coastal Carolina, etc. a chance. The prejudice creation of the P5 & G5 ruined college football. It's not even a thought in college basketball, so why do it to football?
Boise State just got complacent. Lived in Boise the last 20 years and it seemed that throughout those successful years they had this belief that they could do the same thing they’ve been doing as a program and the results will always come. They were late to expand their stadium which was a huge factor also they really were ok with being a big fish in a small pond rather than take the risk of some losing seasons in a P5. It’s as simple as that. They thought they deserved to be a P5 and didn’t move fast enough on anything to prove it to the conferences. They only have themselves to blame for not being invited sooner. PAC 12 merger could be a blessing in disguise however
What's sad, is my wife who is a BSU alum, and I am an Oregon State alum, realize that we're forever gonna be stuck in the shadow of the hyper-capitalistic oligarchy that is college football and the NCAA. But among the many things that brought us together as a married couple, this was one more thing confirming we were meant to be together. So we are sad to see our schools suffer at the hands of money-grubbing pigs (namely that accursed batch of pond scum down in Eugene), but hey, at least we still enjoy our events and sports holding onto their dignity and integrity for whatever remains of it. #GoBroncos #GoBeavs #BoiseState #OregonState #ScrewThePac12
It might be more than just market size that is holding BSU back. They are considered, primarily, a regional university. This limits their finances and advancement of academic prominence. I know this has little to do with football, but the power conferences have always valued academic standing.
B1G and SEC are going to try to eat the other two Power 4 Conferences and move to a 32 team super tier CFP subdivision. The only chance that XII and ACC have is to plus up to 20 teams and absorb the best G5 teams like Boise State to try and get a better media deal in order to force a 40-80 team super tier CFP subdivision.
Lifelong Boise State fan. We got screwed, but it honestly has to do with geography. And the CFP doesn’t help BSU because we don’t have the money to keep and develop players being offered millions of dollars to leave.
Boise has always been handed unfair L's. Big schools like Ohio State refusing to play us, calling Boise and back then TCU, the "little sisters of division 1 football". Teams like Florida, who has not played a non conference game outside of the state of Florida for what feels like 30 years, telling Boise they can come to Gainesville, but we have to pay the Gators something like $2M and Boise gets none of the gate revenue. Props to Oregon for actually playing us home and away, though Boise State is 3-0 vs the Ducks... Maybe why all the coward big schools refuse to play us. Not enough to gain, too much to lose. And I was screaming at Boise State to go Pac12 when they expanded from the Pac10, and then screaming again when the Big 12 was shuffling. If Boise comes in and runs the table in 2024, makes a strong push in the playoffs, the powers that be will just change up the model yet again so there's another decade or two where a good small school is left out in the cold.
3 times doesn't seem like alot of games, and 2 of those 3 wins vs the ducks were like 14 years ago and 15 years ago...whats the most recent game? oregon would probbably beat bsu now every time., those times are gone, bsu has a losing record to ranked teams since 2014'- they haven't beat anyone really notable since georgia like...12 or 13 years ago, and that was at the end of bsu's good run
They cheated Boise in Kellen’s last year … they beat Georgia the SEC east champ that year early in season and the final voting by computers one of them admitted they left Boise off of their computation after they selected LSU n Bama rematch for national championship
@@Fredolay that’s not the point, the point they never got the chance to prove it and besides I didn’t watch because of the rematch! LSU got hosed that year they had beat bama and played an extra game only to be at a disadvantage…
Boise state should’ve gone to PAC12 due to them having a good record against them and competition wise they are meant for that conference. Once PAC12 dissolved they then should go to B12.
BYU doesn’t belong in the Big12 but Houston does. Let me name the schools that made either a BCS or NY6 or CFP bowl game who were technically not Autonomous Colleges. 1. UCF 2. Cincinnati 3. Pitt before going to ACC 4. Louisville before going to ACC 5. Memphis 6. Houston 7. Tulane 8. TCU before Big12 9. Utah before PAC12 10. NIU 11. WMU 12. Boise State 13. Hawaii 14. UCONN 15. WVU before going Big12 16. Syracuse before ACC 17. Va Tech before going to ACC 18. Miami before going to ACC 19. BC before going to ACC 20. Rutgers before BiG10 BigEast/AAC days 21. USF when AAC was Big East 22. Liberty You notice some schools missing because they didn’t qualify or were good enough from the list? Because they were not good enough and therefore not qualified to be added to the A4 but the other G5 adds were. BYU is not in the Big12 the same way as SMU is in the ACC, but it is not vastly dissimilar as one would think. Any idiot who says Houston doesn’t belong apparently don’t know their big bowl games’ history and don’t know how successful they have been and will be. Can BYU be a winning team in the Big12? Yes. But to say that Boise State should be chosen over Houston or BYU or UCF or Cincinnati shows just how stupid you are and how little respect and knowledge of the game you have and the history. SMU had decent football success and history before being shut down for multiple violations and the return took up until the past 12 years or so for them to take football seriously again sort of. The reason why I pointed out all the schools who made a BCS/NY6/CFP bowl was to point out that several schools that are kind of on the chopping block to be excluded from different types of conferences have made more strides and successes in football than schools currently being considered or have been added to said conferences over the years and years to come.
Once again I am interested in the subject but must turn it off within seconds when Dirk Koetter ("cutter") is pronounced "COATER" by Mr. Shenanigans. Minimal research would have prevented this childish mistake. Next time do better.
Hawkins proved that he was nothing special. It was his assistant coaches that carried him. He was a failure when he went big league. Turns out the success was all because of Chris Peterson.
i live in idaho but not in boise we actually hate boise up north my girlfriend graduated from there literally last week we’re all u of i fans but im an oregon student so sco ducks baby
Don’t think so, Boise is in control of its own future now, stay ranked and beat everyone on their schedule and they have a spot on the playoff. That’s all they ever wanted was a chance,something the BCS was designed to thwart. If they win 3 games in the playoffs they are natty champs, worst case lose in the playoffs but attack next level talent. Far from dead sparky, BSU is the phoenix rising!
You left out the trip to Atlanta to play Ole Miss. They got thier ass handed to them. They barley had 10.000 fans in the old Ga.Dome. That is one reason. Small traveling fan base. The media blew them out of portion during that time. They never improved their schedule.Always playing weak power 5 teams. Played in a weak conference aka the WAC. They have only won MWC 4 times. They are not that good. They will blew out by Alabama or Georgia in the playoff
1. 10,000 fans going across the country is impressive 2. Alabama and Georgia would blow out any team that is not in the top 5 more than likely 3. Nobody wants to play Boise because they are known as the giant killers 4. Ole Miss was leading 7-6 going into the 4th quarter against Boise State which I think is pretty impressive for a g5 team (they beat Georgia there a few years prior) 5. They will blew out by Alabama or Georgia in the playoff lol
No one wanted to play them Andrew. They had, at one time, 9 starters who played in the NFL; they had some very good teams. Do some research, have some facts to buttress your positions, and maybe I would give your opinion some consideration. As it is, I stopped reading your comment when you misspelled "their".
Coach pete only had 2 losses against top 25 opponents one was hawaii and the other nevada he beat every other top 25 team harsin was nowhere near petersens level
BOY-SEE STATE! Not boyzee. There's no Z in Boise. Dirk Koetter (pronounced Cutter). And Ashton Jeanty (pronounced Jintee) If you're gonna talk about BSU history, better get the names right. Just saying 🤷♂️
@@DocSkirv top tier programs too afraid to schedule proper non-conference opponents. Especially during the peak of Boise in the BCS computer era where you needed to smash to increase your rankings. That said, Boise has zero chance of joining a power 5 conference because of NIL deals and other reasons like geography and school size
Boise State will never join an autonomy conference. Their TV market and academics would make of no value. Also they are no flagship school which means they probably have low alumni bases especially being in a state like Idaho.
you know its cope when you gotta bring up games from 15-20 years ago, thats what some BSU fans do when bringing up ' wins ' they had and trying to make a case that this is why big schools today wont schedule them, no folks, that isn't it..try again UCF came into town and beat you, BYU beats you, and the Huskies shat on you badly the last time
You lost me at 1:18 ish, It's Dirk Koetter, a former NFL head coach. Cutter. If you are going to make content you should at the very least be able to pronounce the names of the people you are speaking of.
all about where they are located.....Boise is not a huge tv market.....TCU is outside of Dallas and Utah is SLC.....that is the difference
Yep. Boise State might be an historic football program but you see what these conferences want. Maryland and Rutgers only got in the B1G because of how Maryland was the Washington, D.C. market and Rutgers is in the NYC Market. All Conferences Want is TV Media Sets and Money
Boise State got fucked
True, but for TCU's case they were a power team then got left out when the big 12 formed. They went back to their rivalries and were in the middle of the conference footprint.
@@sportscastradio8658thank you. I never realized this and to this day it always confused me that Maryland and Rutgers made it into the Big 10, this makes total sense
@@JB-nx2ih it will be soon.
That game against Oklahoma was the best game I've ever watched, hands down.
The hook and ladder call was more impressive than the statue of liberty call. lol
It still triggers this OU fan to this day
@@bradleycarroll8187Lowkey feel bad for u but y'all will be back
That play was my favorite of the game. I remember thinking it was over and then they busted out that play. It was unreal!
😂😂
USC vs Texas Rose Bowl for the Natty was the best college game maybe football game of all time time
I was at that VTech game front row behind the Boise State bench. Greatest game I ever seen in person with my oldest son it was our second in person Boise State. The first game was the Fiesta Bowl against TCU. After they beat OU I told my son when they make it back we were going and we did. The second greatest game I attended was also with my Oldest son at that time he was my only son and had just turned 4 Sept 91. It was the Lions vs the Cowboys playoff win in the Silver dome to think we had to wait another 32 years before we would see the Lions win another home playoff game. my number three game is probably not one you watched and while I have state I will never return to Fort Collins Colorado .. the whole trip up to the last minutes of game play was the worst trip of my life... but to witness that come back when all seemed lost to watch the drunk on victory CSU fands empty out that stadium up by 3 TD's with less then 4 minutes to go on the cold late Colorado night was one the greatest from all time lows with misery pain and suffer to one of the biggest highs one could experience. After the Team came by as they always do slapping all of us there hands , as they too were on a tremendous high. I streamed the out live on face book from my endzone view which happened to be the one where all the action was, coach Harsin came up in to the stands and talked to each and everyone one of us that were there and shock all of our hands. I'm so looking forward to what this 2024 Boise State team is going to do. every game has been a travel game for me even well maybe not Toledo (which is by far the worst fan base on the planet) or MSU in Lansing as they are both within 70 miles of my home. All other games I have flown to but one My oldest and I drove to the Oky state game and I have to say Stillwater is a great place to go see game. The Stadium is awesome as is their hospitality, them and the Vtech are great people before and after the game. I love my Tigers and I love my Lions but one thing I have never done is travel to see them play so I guess Boise State to me good or bad is must see for me.
Lots of irony to how I became a Boise state fan. I am Yooper by birth but lived most of my youth in Mid Michigan, went to Idaho for my second half my junior year & senior year. Play high school for this young looking guy in fact when I first saw him I had no idea he was the coach though he might be like a student aid of some kind. football. I played for Highland High school in Pocatello Id. We wom the state championship and I moved on with my life I did however go to Idaho State and I discovered their that years before when I came out there to visit my dad for the summer and he bought me this T-shirt at Fred Myer it was Black with a blue out line of the state of Idaho and it had a horse read up on it and written on the shirt it said Boggy to you puck at BSU. I wore the shirt to a 8th grade school dance and when my friends asked me what BSU meant I said Bullshit University I had no idea I had never herd of Boise state . The fact is as a student I discovered ISU folks hated Boise State the time Boise was in the Big Sky like ISU was .. So did the natural thing to do was hate them..
Many years past and I had moved my family to the city I was born in Menominee Michigan right on the boarder of Wisconsin. It's the first week of college football 1997 and I was a huge Michigan fan all my youth. I turn on the TV as the Michigan was going to be later and watched the station out of Green bay which was 50 miles away to watch the game Badgers vs Boise State first year in div 1. Wisconsin had Ron Dane Rose bowl bound team the year before beat UCLA play guess who.. Boise State! I'm think well these guys are going to get waxed and I'm suppose to hate them so they beat us in everything when I was in college especial in Football. But shit they they were beating them yeah the first qt they got knocked around a little but as the game went late in the fourth they had taken the lead with just a few minutes to go, they were up by 4. Wisconsin get first and goal at the 7 there is like 1:20 left they had their time out they stuff Dane on 4th and goal from the 3 at the one. I was losing my mind they won the team was doing the same.. Awe but you see Wisconsin gets right back to the like and the clock is still running.. Understand this is a local not a national broadcast the guys call the game from the Booth were locals .. and they like I am go what going on the Big 10 refs gave Wisconsin a 5th down the Boise State Players rush to get into passion and barely got down at the snap and still almost stopped Ron for a second time! Even as time expired the booths guys never stopped talking about the 5th down. 97 year was a losing season for Boise State that being said my boys from Michigan well you know what they did so I had completely forgot about Boise State. Huston leaves and the next time I hear anything about Boise State is Dirk Koetter is the new head football coach at Boise State my senior year head coach in high school. The rest is history. The bond came in the Fresno State Game in 2002 after Dirk pissed me off leaving for AZ. People forget Fresno State beat Wisconsin in Maddison that year and was rank 6th in the nation. To watch those young men fight and scratch and then take the game in the 4th qt created a bond. Yet Boise State was my second favorite team I was after all Michigan man. However I started paying attention and watching more BSU games. To be able to watch some of the Boise games on cable I would have to buy the sports plan to get the out area games so I was watching more and more Boise state game. then came the 2006 season the loss to Appy State, my sons first year in college. Making the trip the Ann Arbor area to watch Michigan games with him. The total destruction of Norte Dame following the loss to appy state was heart warming. Then to watch the local media just pound on Lloyd Carr week after week. His retirement was a result of media and the elites in Ann Arbor it was a disgrace. Then the Snub and belittle Jimmy the press was relentless. He doesn't have coaching experience. You have to understand Bo would take us to the Rose Bowl then lose it until Harbaugh. I was so pissed when there was all the hype talk about Less Miles .. you have to understand the history here Less Miles is a piece of shit he was the reason Gary Moellar got fired. Miles got Mo's wife all lacquered up at a public event then on the dance floor started grouping and kissing on his wife. and Gray fucked him up right there on the dance floor for all to see. Beat his arse. Less was leaving LSU to come to Michigan until West Virginia lost to Pitt moving LSU into the National championship game. I was like ok so now we get Jimmy ... Nope the media double down. Reports that he didn't get along with the Alumni with spread and he lacks the experience to Coach at Michigan lol and all this Michigan man speak, they were doing prior when it was going to be Miles. and they do what" Rich Rod the guy who lost to Pitt ?? to keep his team out of a title game? This is your Michigan man?? LOL
If you recall New years morning Michigan played the Gators, Carr's last game heavy underdogs to a Florida team who won the National Championship the year before with the T-Bone at QB that was the last game for many year I had rooted to Michigan. And that night the greatest Bowl game ever played Boise State vs Oklahoma. Stick a fork in me I was done. 2 years later I had to get permission from Boise State to use the domain I had purchased tehblueturf.com. Started posting a blog and and youtubes on my Dartprophet youtube channel. in 2010 a blogging group call blogin had earn some cred getting some of their bloggers post out on sports sites like SBN came to me said they could earn me some cash and give me support. The hitch was I had to give them my domain. Things were going smoothly until 2011. They got bought by Bar stool and that seemed to be a good thing until 2012 Barstool sold the Blugin group to a Chinese company who instantly cut us all out of our accounts. They never did a damn thing with them other then leave our post up for a few years. I got no compensation and to this day they maintain ownership of the domain they don't have Boise States permission to use the domain using any content about Boise State so this is what it looks like today theblueturf.com/ the wont sell it for any number I've tried.
But they will never be able to use it for it's intended purposes.
Thats how I became a die hard to the grave come hell or high water Boise state fan I still have a fan page on face book but life gets in the way when you are a business man surviving covid and all it's repercussions. That being said I will be putting out a Jeanty Video on my youtube theblueturf channel which I am posting from now. so subscribe to my channel as well I won't give a penny to facebook aka FBi they sell your information and they will sell you to to big brother thats why I don't post of FBi anymore. but hey I have a ton of great content there if you are looking for pre 2020 Boise Vidoe and yeah I have bought all in on all of Boise State teams not just the football team I support them all and in a couple more years my home base is going to be Boise Idaho. Everytime I go there it gets harder and harder to get on a plane back to Detroit.
Nice little video keep swing .
2010 was their year them losing that Nevada game ruined their chances of national championship and getting moved up
I like your Pokemon card vids bro 🤞
@@SaturdayShenanigansYT lmao 💀 thanks keep up the vids
Yup Kaepernick upset
It only kept them out of a BCS game, there was no way the committee would've ever let them get a shot. They were terrified of a random team from little old Idaho winning it all they would've made some excuse to have them finish 3rd
@@RIPJimmyA7X probably since Auburn was legit that year with Cam
I think what gets overlooked is how the Boise program has always been dominant no matter what level they have played at. Their success is not just something that happened around the 2000s. They were the most dominant program in lower level JC football. It’s not like they struck lightning in the 2000s. They are just a smaller school who has excelled at every level of football that they have played As an FBS program they are 272-84. As a football program all-time Since they started playing football in the 1930’s their all-time winning record is 491-168. It’s easy to knock them because they play lesser opponents, but no matter what level they play, they have always dominated the competition. Among all football programs, even the elite top-tier programs, their winning percentage is in the top-10. They deserved to be able to play in the upper tiers of college football more than any other lower-tier program, and even above many of the existing P5/P4 schools that are still in the major conferences. They deserve that respect. They have earned it.
Well said. Truly an incredible program. Thanks for watching and leaving this great comment!
BYU fan here... Boise got screwed. They owned BYU, Utah, and TCU when they were on the same level. From 2002 to about 2014, they were a top 10 program. Went on the road and beat Va tech, Georgia, Oklahoma, TCU, Utah, BYU, and many others. They should be in the Big 12 ahead of Houston.
For real, as an Idahoan BYU fan have always loved Boise, it’s criminal how much they’ve been underrated/snubbed
We need an alternate timeline where they got the Big 12 bid.
You’re correct… Boise got screwed and should be in the modern BIG 12.
However… I will say… in the 2000’s they never never played the best BYU or Utah teams.
Utah had undefeated BCS bowl winning teams in both 2004 and 2008. They beat Utah soundly during rebuilding years in 2006 and 2010.
Meanwhile BYU’s program had some really up and down years in the 2000’s. However… they were a legit Top 15 team in 2001, 2006, and 2009… but by luck (or fate) Boise wasn’t on the schedule.
There would’ve (could’ve) been some epic matchups… the winner would have come out of those games with a stronger national reputation. Just bad luck.
During the realignment chatter in summer 2010… Boise was set to go to the Mountain West…. the conference at the time had Utah, TCU, BYU, with Boise coming on board… that’s an excellent top tier.
At the time Larry Scott wanted to add Texas and Oklahoma to the PAC 10… it almost happened… but ended up falling through and the PAC 12 picked up Utah and Colorado… leaving the door open for TCU to join the BIG 12.
Weird to think of how the college football landscape would be different today if that would’ve happened.
@@tatemiller9295BYU doesn’t belong in the Big12 but Houston does. Let me name the schools that made either a BCS or NY6 or CFP bowl game who were technically not Autonomous Colleges.
1. UCF
2. Cincinnati
3. Pitt before going to ACC
4. Louisville before going to ACC
5. Memphis
6. Houston
7. Tulane
8. TCU before Big12
9. Utah before PAC12
10. NIU
11. WMU
12. Boise State
13. Hawaii
14. UCONN
15. WVU before going Big12
16. Syracuse before ACC
17. Va Tech before going to ACC
18. Miami before going to ACC
19. BC before going to ACC
20. Rutgers before BiG10 BigEast/AAC days
21. USF when AAC was Big East
22. Liberty
You notice some schools missing because they didn’t qualify or were good enough from the list? Because they were not good enough; and therefore, not qualified to be added to the A4 but the other G5 adds were.
BYU is not in the Big12 the same way as SMU is in the ACC, but it is not vastly dissimilar as one would think. Any idiot who says Houston doesn’t belong apparently don’t know their big bowl games’ history and don’t know how successful they have been and will be.
Can BYU be a winning team in the Big12? Yes. But to say that Boise State should be chosen over Houston, BYU, Cincinnati, UCF, and other schools shows just how little you know and how little respect and knowledge of the game you have and the history.
SMU had decent football success and history before being shut down for multiple violations and the return took up until the past 12 years or so for them to take football seriously again sort of.
The reason why I pointed out all the schools who made a BCS/NY6/CFP bowl was to point out that several schools that are kind of on the chopping block to be excluded from different types of conferences have made more strides and successes in football than schools currently being considered or have been added to said conferences over the years and years to come.
@@michaelwall3393 I think you replied to the wrong comment my friend
A couple notes Dirk Koetter (cutter) is back as our OC this season so the fan base is pretty fired up about that. We have one of, if not the best all around running back(s) in the country. Malachi Nelson may not start since Koetter seems to really like Mad Dog and we did win a 3rd Fiesta Bowl after coach Pete left, and there were a few years since then that we narrowly missed out on a bid to AAC teams so we never fell off completely. Avalos did alot to tarnish our reputation the last 3 years but in Danielson we trust, lets go baby 29 more days!!
I agree. I think we are improved across the board, especially defensively, As long as the O-line gives the qb (whomever that turns out to be) time and our passing game is better, that will open up the running game - which will be very very good. I say establish the passing game first. We shall see. Soon!!
Big expectations this year
Man we looked so much more like Boise state in the 4 games under Danielson than we ever did under Avalos. Also I did not hear that Koetter is back this year, that's freaking awesome. Malachi and Jeanty are going to thrive under him
@@RIPJimmyA7X from what he's said it's another "one and done" however if we win a playoff game or two I could see him wanting to come back and try and dive deeper depending on what the returning prices look like
Boise State is the Gonzaga of football.
Nah. Boise State peaked in 2010 or so.
Tragically, it was. The post season in basketball allowed Gonzaga to grow. The CFB post season kept BSU down.
Yes. And where would Gonzaga (or Butler) be without a tournament?
@@ezekielloseke5514with the new expansion I can see them or a team like them getting in and making some noise
@@tonylvez I hope so, but NIL $ males it hard to develop players. That’s how they did so well for so long. They developed young 1 and 2 stars with grey shirt and red shirt years into excellent starters. They did this by subbing during blowouts and producing 8 to 9 blowouts a year. Now, though, those developed players can leave for more cash.
Long story short: The power conferences are defined by their ability to generate money. Talent has nothing to do with it.
Not exactly. The money will pay to get better talent which will raise viewership which will then lead to more money.
@@Desert-Father Boise State had little money yet managed to recruit talent good enough to beat teams like ranked Oregon, ranked Oklahoma, ranked Virginia Tech, ranked Georgia, ranked TCU, and ranked Arizona. Based on talent alone, Boise State is a power football team. But… we lack money and viewership. So what does that mean? It means the power conferences are defined by money, not talent, otherwise BSU would be in the Big 12.
@Lord_Crofts Boise State has a good program but they have only finished in the top #25 twice in the last ten years. Meanwhile, the Power 4 Teams consistently dominate the Top 25 and the CFP. They have talented teams. They would not be able to win so much without talented players. Viewership leads to more money, which allows for the acquisition of more talent, which in turn leads to more success on the field. This is even more true now in the age of NIL money and the transfer portal. Boise State and any other G5 school's best hope to stay at the highest level of college football is to join a P4 conference.
@@Desert-Father I agree with you. My point is this: P4 won’t take power teams like Boise State unless they have money and viewership, thus proving that money defines a power team, not talent. What business does Vanderbilt have being a P4 team? They suck, but they have money and viewership. Same goes for Cal, Nebraska, Minnesota and other teams alike.
Great video and filled with 2000’s CFB nostalgia. UCF is another team that built themselves up into a power conference.
Thanks for watching!!
I think the 12 team playoff is what CFB needs. It still gives deserving teams like Boise State a chance. A small chance, sure, but it is still a chance.
Yeah. We don't need a better conference with the new playoff setup. I'm content with the MWC.
As long as the non-power representative doesnt automatically play the #1 ranked team they may have a shot. You watch, that will happen. The big boys dont want anyone in their club.
SEC and Big 10 are gonna dominate just as much.
This video perfectly explains why I picked Boise state as my first CFB 25 Rebuild and it’s been feeling so right to have the broncos be good again, only took me 2-3 years before we was able to make it to the championship
I won my first Natty yesterday on season 3.
Love the profile pic. Pluto x Baby Pluto was a good mixtape
@@SaturdayShenanigansYTokay you need to know your stuff a bit better. Houston Nutt led them to the transition from FCS to FBS and had success and got the Arkansas job because of it. The Big West was a FBS conference at that time and had not dropped down yet as was the case for the Big Sky. But before turn of the century was announced with their HC who was Nutt’s successor and good one, pronounced (Cutter), would be joining the WAC. But once again, would be changing course and coaching with the arrival of Dan Hawkins, and you should know the rest although you are too young and too loose with information to rely upon anything.
Anyhow Boise State accepts athletes that barely qualify for JUCO let alone D3-D1 or NAIA universities. Like BYU, their academics and academic backgrounds and credentials come under scrutiny and questions as well as their ethics on said academics. T2, C2, R2 are what both universities are and Boise just got to the 2nd level. Now you can be R2 but level 1 in the other areas in academics. Many schools are.
But it is how they conduct their business. Had Boise been added over BYU, even though BYU is as big if not bigger draw, they would be left out in the wilderness instead of Boise State. To say Boise State deserves to be in an Autonomous Conference over the four added to the Big12 is ludicrous at best and disingenuous and disinformation. ACC has high standards in academics and schools like BYU and Boise State would never qualify.
Houston is very much like their inner city rival in the AAU private school of Rice in academics but Houston has way better athletics. Now could BYU be borderline approved by ACC if they wanted them based on their academics? Yes but barely. Their overall athletics success would be the benefit and oomph to push them through just like in the Big12. Now SMU is R2 but are level 1 at the other academic credentials and standards. Now will SMU get R1? Probably not but don’t say never. But BYU will not and Boise will take about another 30 years or so.
Now do I believe they should be in a Power Conference and Big12 in particular? Yes I do but not at the expense of the four G5 schools already added. I would also say Memphis deserves to be elevated as well as all three service academies and probably App State or CCU.
My hometown team, that stretch of football in late 2000’s early 2010’s will forever live in my memories, obviously the 2007 fiesta bowl greatest game ever in my opinion. I’ve met Ian Johnson (game winner in that game) a few different times and he is one the nicest dudes ever. Will forever bleed blue and orange 💙🧡
I can second that Ian Johnson is a super great dude, also met him multiple times both during and after his football career.
I think it started going down when Peterson left
For sure. Big blow to the program. Peterson left for a reason, he knew that he deserved more recognition.
I remember the first time hearing of Boise State and its Statue of Liberty play against Oklahoma. Then, when we moved to Boise, they played that game for yeeeeeeaaaaars. Now, they are just caught in a limbo. Blue turf is nice but they need to change or they’ll get left in the dust. Also, Kyle brotzman got destroyed after his miss against Nevada. Fun fact, his dad used to referee youth soccer games
Didn’t know Lance bass was a college football fan. Good vid!
I’m not upset Boise is one of the most winning programs for the past 20 years (I’ve never seen Boise have a losing season) our roster is also stacked this year
Hopefully they can get to the 12 team playoff and make some noise
Yes, I agree. Big expectations this year
BSU's last losing season was over 25 years ago, last year was the closest we've gotten in a long time. Honestly, we're spolied.
Good video,,,, I loved watching those Thursday or Friday night that they played at home and man ,,they sure took down some big programs !!
They have always been the redheaded step chd of college football I really hope they win the natty in a miracle run in the new playoff format
Great way to put it
Dude just to watch ESPN have an aneurysm trying to explain why they didn't deserve it would be hilarious
Boise State would have to win 4 straight upsets to win the Natty. 0 chance.
Boise State is .725 since joining division 1-A. I don’t think we’ve “fallen off” per se, probably a matter of perspective though.
Perspective for sure. Those 2000s season set the bar very high.
@@SaturdayShenanigansYT yeah but we’ve consistently won our conference and have some of the best defensive players in the nfl come from us. Leighton Vander Esch & Demarcus Lawrence just to name a few. I’m not upset at you, just more explaining my thoughts on it. Great video regardless
Please please please Boise State run ts back with the 12 team playoff
Boise State is an elite program and got burned big time. They should be a power 5 team but will get there!
The broncos are ready to roll!
was*
We've been saying that for 20 years
That was a great break down to the question of what happened to this team- your on your way
I appreciate the kind words. Thanks for watching!
It’s really sad that the NCAA hasn’t always given the smaller schools like Boise State, Utah, UCF etc a fair chance especially in college sports take 2008 Utah for example they were the only team to finish especially after beating Bama and Saban in the Sugar Bowl guess what their ranking was heading into the Sugar Bowl that year being the only undefeated team #6 that wouldn’t have been good enough to make it into the 4 team playoff not too many people know this but Utah actually sent a memo to the NCAA after that Sugar Bowl asking for a playoff which was rejected and not taken seriously it wasn’t until the Bama-LSU controversy that the playoff was considered
y'all boise State Is in the pac 12
That Fiesta Bowl was arguably the best game I've ever watched, but Utah were THE "BCS Buster" not, BSU. 🤷 Did it first, AND did it best. (No other G5 team did anything even remotely as big as absolutely DOMINATING Saban's Alabama basically on the road.)
That utah team also played 11 freshman in alabama that all declared for the draft 3 of the top 15 players Utah got lucky boise proved it time and time again remeber that utah bs talking shit in the vegas bowl what did boise do yeah beat their ass
Boise State won more games and more undefeated seasons. Boise never had a "rebuild year"
BSU fan here. Love this vid and think it’s right on the money. This game should be about love not cash.
Truth. Thanks for watching!
Lifelong fan here, had HS football camp on the blue and the fall of Boise State can only be attributed to one thing - MONEY - greedy conferences don't want to share money with a TV market that lacks volume and viewers, despite the program's success. I hate CFB now, and hate the big conferences even more for leaving out one of the best programs in the league. Now we're stuck, relegated playing a crap schedule and losing recruits to programs that pay top dollar. F*** college football.
Sad stuff man. Thanks for watching.
tcu getting thumped by georgia kinda put the last hope of a cinderella in college football to bed unfortunately, especially now in the expanded playoff era
That one hurt for sure. I'm still optimistic tho
Insane that the Pac-12 would've rather go under than give Boise State an invitation lol. An important u forgot to mention was that Boise State was almost a member of the Big East before that blew up. While the Big East wasn't a Pac-12 or Big 12 it still had an automatic bid at that point but with the implosion of that conference as well as TCU going Big 12 & San Diego State getting cold feet Boise State missed out on that as well.
Boise State in the Big East would've been huge for them. I could've seen them staying there for a bit if it lived, and leveraged that to get a bid from the Big 12 or Pac 12 later on.
@@randomnerd2332 As long as you understand that Boise State is a $5 million school ($5M in TV revenue per year) playing in a conference with $3.5 million schools… hence why the Pac-2 doesn’t want to merge with the whole conference. The value the MWC adds is limited… and the Big East just netted double that while not having football.
Better off killing the conferences and trying a merit based system. But I’m not holding my breath for that, because you won’t boycott the current system, and at least as important, you won’t convince fans of bigger schools to do the same.
Here's the thing. We got to rank 7th in 2011 with one loss. Never has been done before in group of 5. Here is the thing though. Boise State was supposed to go to the sugar bowl but got slapped in the face by the BCS by putting Virginia tech and Michigan jn the sugar bowl and nobody was happy. Back in the bcs if you were a group of 5 team and you had one loss. If you win out your conference and get to rank 15 pr higher you got a new years 6 bowl game. Not the case for boise state because the tv viewing and money. Espn trued tixing that by giving boise state a home game contract stating every home game gets to be on espn which is good but the trade off is that every game will start at 8pm or later.
Being a fellow Boise state fan and growing up in Boise I've seen it all with the college football system and it does hurt. Everytime we had a chance ESPN and the AP polls and etc. Would say "oh you beat Georgia at Georgia. You beat Virginia Tech at FedEx Field. Sounds great so here's a 6-6 team at a low level bowl even though you have a Heisman finalist."
Wow 🤩 #3 Boise getting screwed, they should start their own private conference
It's about time the NCAAF gives Cinderella teams like Boise State, UCF, Cinci, App State, Coastal Carolina, etc. a chance. The prejudice creation of the P5 & G5 ruined college football. It's not even a thought in college basketball, so why do it to football?
REAL BRO
Boise State just got complacent. Lived in Boise the last 20 years and it seemed that throughout those successful years they had this belief that they could do the same thing they’ve been doing as a program and the results will always come. They were late to expand their stadium which was a huge factor also they really were ok with being a big fish in a small pond rather than take the risk of some losing seasons in a P5. It’s as simple as that. They thought they deserved to be a P5 and didn’t move fast enough on anything to prove it to the conferences. They only have themselves to blame for not being invited sooner. PAC 12 merger could be a blessing in disguise however
Dirk "Cutter"
What's sad, is my wife who is a BSU alum, and I am an Oregon State alum, realize that we're forever gonna be stuck in the shadow of the hyper-capitalistic oligarchy that is college football and the NCAA. But among the many things that brought us together as a married couple, this was one more thing confirming we were meant to be together. So we are sad to see our schools suffer at the hands of money-grubbing pigs (namely that accursed batch of pond scum down in Eugene), but hey, at least we still enjoy our events and sports holding onto their dignity and integrity for whatever remains of it.
#GoBroncos #GoBeavs #BoiseState #OregonState #ScrewThePac12
It might be more than just market size that is holding BSU back. They are considered, primarily, a regional university. This limits their finances and advancement of academic prominence. I know this has little to do with football, but the power conferences have always valued academic standing.
It's plain and simple, the powers to be didn't want them in.
Jeanty is the important person in the history of the whole state of Idaho
B1G and SEC are going to try to eat the other two Power 4 Conferences and move to a 32 team super tier CFP subdivision. The only chance that XII and ACC have is to plus up to 20 teams and absorb the best G5 teams like Boise State to try and get a better media deal in order to force a 40-80 team super tier CFP subdivision.
Lifelong Boise State fan. We got screwed, but it honestly has to do with geography. And the CFP doesn’t help BSU because we don’t have the money to keep and develop players being offered millions of dollars to leave.
100% geography.
Boise has always been handed unfair L's. Big schools like Ohio State refusing to play us, calling Boise and back then TCU, the "little sisters of division 1 football". Teams like Florida, who has not played a non conference game outside of the state of Florida for what feels like 30 years, telling Boise they can come to Gainesville, but we have to pay the Gators something like $2M and Boise gets none of the gate revenue. Props to Oregon for actually playing us home and away, though Boise State is 3-0 vs the Ducks... Maybe why all the coward big schools refuse to play us. Not enough to gain, too much to lose.
And I was screaming at Boise State to go Pac12 when they expanded from the Pac10, and then screaming again when the Big 12 was shuffling. If Boise comes in and runs the table in 2024, makes a strong push in the playoffs, the powers that be will just change up the model yet again so there's another decade or two where a good small school is left out in the cold.
3 times doesn't seem like alot of games, and 2 of those 3 wins vs the ducks were like 14 years ago and 15 years ago...whats the most recent game? oregon would probbably beat bsu now every time., those times are gone, bsu has a losing record to ranked teams since 2014'- they haven't beat anyone really notable since georgia like...12 or 13 years ago, and that was at the end of bsu's good run
Always thought the PAC should have added them as a Football only. But they were never going to add them due to lower academics
Imagine...
They have definitely been done wrong
Smart guy
TV market share matters more than anything else. BSU is trapped as Boise is just too small for revenue that makes conferences invite them.
Tough. Similar thing happened to my school, Oregon State.
They cheated Boise in Kellen’s last year … they beat Georgia the SEC east champ that year early in season and the final voting by computers one of them admitted they left Boise off of their computation after they selected LSU n Bama rematch for national championship
Bama, or LSU would’ve dog walked Boise
@@Fredolay that’s not the point, the point they never got the chance to prove it and besides I didn’t watch because of the rematch! LSU got hosed that year they had beat bama and played an extra game only to be at a disadvantage…
@@Fredolayyour wrong lol
@@tommiezturner6554 they lost to an unranked Tcu team at home
@@Fredolay didn’t Alabama lose to Texas A&M that was new to the SEC a couple years later?
Boise state should’ve gone to PAC12 due to them having a good record against them and competition wise they are meant for that conference.
Once PAC12 dissolved they then should go to B12.
utah mentioned❤️🔥
If the power structure was based on football BSU is a power school but it’s not sadly
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School academics (Boise being a newer, younger 4-year university) and more importantly, in a smaller media market. Money talks.
Yep. They started as a Junior College, crazy.
This is why I'm rebuilding them in cfb 25
Beautiful
No TV market, and lets speak about the academic reputation vs Pac 12 schools!
Pac12 is over guy.
BYU doesn’t belong in the Big12 but Houston does. Let me name the schools that made either a BCS or NY6 or CFP bowl game who were technically not Autonomous Colleges.
1. UCF
2. Cincinnati
3. Pitt before going to ACC
4. Louisville before going to ACC
5. Memphis
6. Houston
7. Tulane
8. TCU before Big12
9. Utah before PAC12
10. NIU
11. WMU
12. Boise State
13. Hawaii
14. UCONN
15. WVU before going Big12
16. Syracuse before ACC
17. Va Tech before going to ACC
18. Miami before going to ACC
19. BC before going to ACC
20. Rutgers before BiG10 BigEast/AAC days
21. USF when AAC was Big East
22. Liberty
You notice some schools missing because they didn’t qualify or were good enough from the list? Because they were not good enough and therefore not qualified to be added to the A4 but the other G5 adds were. BYU is not in the Big12 the same way as SMU is in the ACC, but it is not vastly dissimilar as one would think.
Any idiot who says Houston doesn’t belong apparently don’t know their big bowl games’ history and don’t know how successful they have been and will be. Can BYU be a winning team in the Big12? Yes. But to say that Boise State should be chosen over Houston or BYU or UCF or Cincinnati shows just how stupid you are and how little respect and knowledge of the game you have and the history.
SMU had decent football success and history before being shut down for multiple violations and the return took up until the past 12 years or so for them to take football seriously again sort of.
The reason why I pointed out all the schools who made a BCS/NY6/CFP bowl was to point out that several schools that are kind of on the chopping block to be excluded from different types of conferences have made more strides and successes in football than schools currently being considered or have been added to said conferences over the years and years to come.
I fell in love with college football because of Notre Dame 🤣🤣.
To each their own
we just held our own against oregon
Now you’re in the Pac 12, congrats as a ducks fan truly happy for y’all it’s well deserved and honestly y’all coulda easily beat us we got lucky
They average over 10 yards this last week against Georgia southern 🤷♂️
Boise States best chances were in 2010 & 2011 but they lost to Nevada in 2010 when they were 10-0 and ranked 3rd and im 2011 lost to TCU
Yo 2010 that was the Kaepernick Nevada team
Wasn't Houston nutt the one who actually built it before the other coach
He went 5-6 during 1997, his only season.
@@SaturdayShenanigansYT but still
@@SaturdayShenanigansYT just kidding bud
The sad fact is that the Boise market is not big enough … yes, even in 2024
Truth
should have got in the big 12
Once again I am interested in the subject but must turn it off within seconds when Dirk Koetter ("cutter") is pronounced "COATER" by Mr. Shenanigans. Minimal research would have prevented this childish mistake. Next time do better.
My mistake. Thanks
Good ol dirk coder. Its actually pronounced cutter as in he will stab you not debug your app.
I still dislike Boise State for that Georgia game where we were those hideous uniforms lol
Those unis were a miss for sure
First off Boise blows. 2nd Go Vandals. 3rd how baked is this kid...
Kellen Moore is the father of the Kibbie Dome
Haha enjoy the FCS
You're right. Boise blows... out the vandals every time they play. Is that you Travis?
Baked.
Stupid take
Balanced Take...
Who would've thought ? And this goes out to right wingnut bsu fans !..... Colin Kaepernick !😅😅😅
Hawkins proved that he was nothing special. It was his assistant coaches that carried him. He was a failure when he went big league. Turns out the success was all because of Chris Peterson.
Back to the 1980's for BS.
😭😭 noo
Bsu didn't get into the PAC 10 because of academics.
Exactly
i live in idaho but not in boise we actually hate boise up north my girlfriend graduated from there literally last week we’re all u of i fans but im an oregon student so sco ducks baby
rip boise state
Don’t think so, Boise is in control of its own future now, stay ranked and beat everyone on their schedule and they have a spot on the playoff. That’s all they ever wanted was a chance,something the BCS was designed to thwart. If they win 3 games in the playoffs they are natty champs, worst case lose in the playoffs but attack next level talent. Far from dead sparky, BSU is the phoenix rising!
Boise state went to crap because they started taking players from out of state it wasn't even Idaho grown players anymore it was just transplants.
Boise st would have been power 5 years ago if it weren’t for there horrible academics
You left out the trip to Atlanta to play Ole Miss. They got thier ass handed to them. They barley had 10.000 fans in the old Ga.Dome. That is one reason. Small traveling fan base. The media blew them out of portion during that time. They never improved their schedule.Always playing weak power 5 teams. Played in a weak conference aka the WAC. They have only won MWC 4 times. They are not that good. They will blew out by Alabama or Georgia in the playoff
1. 10,000 fans going across the country is impressive 2. Alabama and Georgia would blow out any team that is not in the top 5 more than likely 3. Nobody wants to play Boise because they are known as the giant killers 4. Ole Miss was leading 7-6 going into the 4th quarter against Boise State which I think is pretty impressive for a g5 team (they beat Georgia there a few years prior) 5. They will blew out by Alabama or Georgia in the playoff lol
No one wanted to play them Andrew. They had, at one time, 9 starters who played in the NFL; they had some very good teams. Do some research, have some facts to buttress your positions, and maybe I would give your opinion some consideration. As it is, I stopped reading your comment when you misspelled "their".
"They will blew out?" LMAO
Coach pete only had 2 losses against top 25 opponents one was hawaii and the other nevada he beat every other top 25 team harsin was nowhere near petersens level
BOY-SEE STATE! Not boyzee. There's no Z in Boise. Dirk Koetter (pronounced Cutter). And Ashton Jeanty (pronounced Jintee) If you're gonna talk about BSU history, better get the names right. Just saying 🤷♂️
You ever been to Boise? They aren't heroes or good people I would know.
Pronounced cutter not coder
ball,, is all about money
You nees to reframe yourself im the video. Everything else is great.
Wym
@@SaturdayShenanigansYT you're head is too low in the frame and you're not centered. Just spend some time looking up interview framing.
ayyyy w video
I always appreciate you, Jack.
I had to stop watching with all the mispronunciations
Its pronounced cutter
The Idaho Vandals will always be my favorite team from Idaho.
Just had to hate 😂
Real😂
Easy to be 13-1 when you play Alaska School of the Arts-Ketchikan almost every week.
mid majors are better than you think
Pretty much.
Georgia, Tcu, Oregon, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Michigan State, BYU, Washington
@@ryanbenz4352 sure one a season. Then they play Idaho School of Mines, New Mexico Tech, and Wyoming State at Sheridan the balance of the year.
@@DocSkirv top tier programs too afraid to schedule proper non-conference opponents. Especially during the peak of Boise in the BCS computer era where you needed to smash to increase your rankings. That said, Boise has zero chance of joining a power 5 conference because of NIL deals and other reasons like geography and school size
#battleborn #nevadawolfpack Boise sucks
Hopefully Nevada is better this season
Boise State will never join an autonomy conference. Their TV market and academics would make of no value. Also they are no flagship school which means they probably have low alumni bases especially being in a state like Idaho.
Maybe in 20 years... if CFB like this is still around
you know its cope when you gotta bring up games from 15-20 years ago, thats what some BSU fans do when bringing up ' wins ' they had and trying to make a case that this is why big schools today wont schedule them, no folks, that isn't it..try again UCF came into town and beat you, BYU beats you, and the Huskies shat on you badly the last time
😂 I'm not even a BSU fan
@@SaturdayShenanigansYT not you i mean some of the comments on here from people bringing up games from a decade and a half ago
You lost me at 1:18 ish, It's Dirk Koetter, a former NFL head coach. Cutter. If you are going to make content you should at the very least be able to pronounce the names of the people you are speaking of.
I have never liked Noisy State.
Lol
I am all good with the Boise JuCo not being P4. They are joke.
"They are joke?" Looks like you need to go to a Juco if you can get in.
Im from Idaho and most people hate Boise state.. There’s more Oregon duck fans in Idaho
I’ve lived in Boise my whole life. That sir is not the case. If you’re around CDA then yes everyone hates BSU
This is just straight up not true lol
Must be duck fan see you week 2
@@ShadowbanTheHedgehog not true. lots of boise fans in north idaho
@@wapiti128 love to hear it lol!
Disagree with you. Nothing like two powerhouses playing for a natty. Upsets are all good till you wind up with a TCU or Cincy in the playoffs.
it's still the right thing to give all conferences a realistic shot at the title though. if not, then why even have 10 conferences?
TCU should have never been in the playoff. That was so embarrassing for the sport.
@@talon5368and Michigan didn’t belong either. TCU beat them in the playoff remember
Naww you wrong we been here fr the big schools. Stop tryna make this narrative like everyone loves the underdog.
It's true tho