Because Texas has had a terrible strength of schedule so Arkansas is one of their biggest wins but that isn’t saying a lot. Same way Indiana beating Washington isn’t that great overall but is good for their schedule
As a non TN fan you are absolutely right. The system is flawed and bias. Watch A&M beat Texas and Texas still get in over TN somehow. It’s all about brand. Funny how they somehow value a win over GA to be higher than a win vs Bama (who beat GA).
I think it’s irrelevant since one of those teams has 2 losses, frankly ole miss lost to Kentucky too there schedule sucks all they did was beat georgia who also has 2 losses they aren’t exactly worth gifting a spot to ole miss in the top 10
Shoutout to Pat McAfee who was the only one on College Gameday that picked the Sun Devils > Kansas State while Desmond Howard and the others laughed it off 😂🔱
College footballs talent discrepancy doesn’t allow a Cinderella to have a shot in hell at winning a national title game. The big 12 champ and Boise being in there is just for shits and giggles, we have two super conferences, acc maybe semi decent and big 12 is a junior varsity football conference in comparison to the SEC and big ten
Because it’s more definitive in football which team is better. Basketball is all a matter of which team can get hot and make shots so there’s always a chance. No one wants to see Georgia play BYU. Georgia would win by 40.😂
Conference Realignment has completely ruined the Strength of Schedule argument. Before teams would’ve played the majority of their conference in the regular season, now it’s highly unlikely any team will play even half of its conference. And if the scheduling God’s look down on them, they could avoid the toughest teams in their conference. Strength of Schedule no longer feels like a fair data point.
That kinda makes the point for strength of schedule mattering more though right? What would UGA or Bama’s record look like if they played Miami’s schedule? Penn State’s best win is a Wisconsin team that got smoked by Bama.
I'm surprised they didn't mention how ND doesn't even have to play in a conference championship bc they're independent. I think it should be no conference, no post season.
I love it how SMU controls its own destiny in getting to the ACC title game and has a solid chance to win it but is never getting any respect with any of the talking heads
The fact that yall are saying “Miami fans are pissed because they have a bad draw and may have to play Georgia” should be proof that Miami should not be ranked ahead of Georgia. No problem with Bama and ole miss being ahead of UGA. But notre dame, Penn state, and Miami is a stretch
Texas shouldn't be the #1 Sec. I know they have the best record but they have played the weakest SEC schedule with 5 of their 6 SEC wins coming from the bottom 8 teams in the SEC. I guarantee they will lose to Texas A&M in 2 weeks. It will be A&M and Georgia in the Title Game.
@ for sure, I’m saying I can atleast hear the argument of having bama and ole miss ahead of them (especially ole miss). I was suprised by how much bama moved up. Despite that 1st quarter UGA dominated them and they also lost to Tennessee. I feel bad for UT fans, looks like head to head wins didn’t mean much for them
Y'know. Every single other level of college football has just a regular ass bracket (with the first eight seeds clinchable I think?), and they play it through till you get a title game, and a winner. Why the FBS has always thought it's so high and mighty has always been beyond me.
The SEC and ACC have wanted a playoff since the 90's but the Big 10 and Big 12 said it would favor the SEC too much. Instead we got the BCS and the SEC winning more than the other conferences combined.
As an alum from an FCS school, the chaos of this CFP bracket makes my heart warm. There might be one or two seedings that are head scratchers each year, but in the end, the bracket will correct itself.
FBS has a far greater gap in spending on football amongst programs. This is a business, the teams that actually put money into football should be favored.
Idk why people thought expanding the playoff would make the debates go away. With such a subjective rating system teams are ALWAYS gonna feel left out.
In prior years I’d agree, but this year, what am I missing, is there any west coast teams outside of Oregon worth mentioning? They all suck, this isn’t a CMC robbery situation lol.
Alabama should schedule more Mercers if the strength of schedule doesn’t matter. Their best non conference win (@Wisconsin) is going to be Penn State’s best win all regular season
@buckfan125 exactly, I'm not a fan of sec playing 8 but they have never been penalized for doing and have no incentive to change. Also just mouthing the conference has no merit based on the success it's had in the last quarter century. They've had a 50% of producing the national champ in that timespan
People wake up!!. When it was top 2.. people flipped out saying its unfair. When it was top 4, people flipped out. In college basketball with 64 people freak out. There is no number of teams that people will be happy. You could have every team in college football and people would still complain.
it's 68 in basketball, but yeah, so long as FBS insists on keeping the playoffs so small and having no guaranteed way to play into the playoffs means people will always be mad about it. literally no other sport, or even level of college football, does this. it's stupid.
There are levels to this though. Which garnered more outrage: FSU getting left out in football or literally anybody getting left out of March Madness this year? Someone's always gonna be mad but the discussion being #4 vs #5 is a lot more consequential to determining the national champion than, say, #40 vs #41
The Issue is we don't need a tiny playoff committee deciding it all. Bring back the coaches polls and computer rankings, and let them pick out 12 teams.
Until FBS divorces itself from the Associated Press, this will never be solved. Every other college football division has a normal playoff structure, just like every other college sport. Conference champions and a couple wildcards, done. No AP rankings, no strength of schedule BS, just the best of the best.
FCS I know for sure has a ranking system, but I agree, FBS needs a way to play in for every single team. There should be a way for each and every team to start the season 0-0 and know what they have to do to guarantee a trip to the playoffs
What a novel concept? It’s almost as if every other sport on this planet does it this way. But how would the SEC and B1G keep dominating if everyone has equal access to the playoffs?? We can’t allow that to go away
@@JayTide Check the ratings Bro... People been watching EVERY Colorado game no matter WHO they play. People would definitely tune in to this one to see who wins... (So they can know which team is gonna get blown out by an SEC team next week!) lol
Unfortunately they won’t their schedule is crap and they don’t bring enough eyes (money) The service academies have to much going against them especially recruiting IMO But as a vet I’ll always half ass cheer for those officers in training
As a Penn State alumni, does anyone in the world think Penn State or Indiana beat a UGA, Alabama, or Tennessee? Penn state struggled against Bowling Green for crying out loud…the Big 10 is a great conference, but you cant convince me it’s better than the SEC. Also, can anyone believe Florida State is getting snubbed for a second year in a row? Come one committee, how can you do that to the Seminoles?
BS on PSU alumnus! Furthermore SEC is very mediocre this year. And everyone has a bad game or two a year. How did Oregon look against Wisconsin? So by your logic since they struggled they wouldn't stand a chance against 2 loss Alabama who lost Vanderbilt and a two loss Georgia or Tennessee. You're being foolish so just stop.
@@suncoastfishing6672 are you really telling me I didn’t graduate from Penn State? It’s better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you’re stupid, rather than to open it and let everyone know you are. Speaking of foolish, you should learn to proofread before calling someone else foolish…go waste someone else’s time chief
That seems to make sense, but then Texas shouldn't be ranked ahead of Georgia in that case. Yet they are. Because the committee is only consistent in its inconsistency.
@@irishamerican1974FSU started their 3rd string freshman QB and every one of the 11 draft picks did not play….. Only a casual would think that was a real game. It was a boycott.
Suggested Formula for College Football Playoffs 1)Go to 16 Teams as follows: 2)All major conferences (Power 4) go back to divisions. Champ of each Division auto qualifiers (8) 3)Champion of each power 4 conf gets week 1 buy 4)Top rated conference overall (Based on overall strength of schedule AND OUT OF CONFERENCE RECORD)gets an additional 2 qualifiers (2) 5)Top 2 non power 4 teams qualify (2) 6)3 at large teams selected based on formula emphasizing strength of schedule and record (3). NOTE- Teams not eligible to play in a conference championship (read independents)must play an additional 13th game OR be ranked in top 8 to qualify) 7) Final team selected based on criteria of “hottest available team” (emphasis on second half / most recent trend)(1). This allows for a particularly packed conference to (in theory) get as many as 8 qualifiers (2 auto, 2 additional, 3 at large and 1 hottest team). Although HIGHLY unlikely! Typical season would see top conference get 4 -5 qualifiers (2 auto, 2 additional, perhaps 1 at large). Next best power 4 would still likely get 3-4 (2 auto, 1-2 at large or hottest team) This also protects non-power 4 by guaranteeing 2 qualifiers. It also keeps entire season for all top 25 teams relevant by providing a mechanism for a team that matures late, or gets hot with some big top 25 wins. (Think South Carolina this year). Bottom line is that you remove downside of playing in conference championship, give maximum flexibility to insure top teams and match-ups (regardless of what conference a team is in), removes any advantage of not being in a conference, AND reduces likelihood a deserving team is left off.
College Football needs a massive face lift. - Split D-1 into two tiers (Tier 1/2). - Tier One is the 64 best teams, split into 8 conferences (8 Teams in each). - They play 7 conference games and 5 non-conf. - No conf championship, just the best 12 or 16 teams into the playoff (pity bowl games for the rest of the teams) - The worse team out of 64 gets demoted to tier two each year - the champ of tier two gets promoted, and is given some recruiting boost to help them adjust (maybe even make them immune from demotion for one or two years)
Anyone who has played a CFB dynasty is on board with this. There needs to be relegation but the blue bloods will never in a million years agree to this
I think there will definitely be some fuckery with the final rankings bc the committee is going to rank teams 5-12 with matchups and the bracket in mind. So I think the only part that really matters for those teams are if you in the 5-8 group that gets to host a game or if you’re in the 9-12 group that has to go on the road…
@@tylorarcher8439Non conference games are scheduled 5-8 years in advance. No idea what a your program or another program is gonna look. Unlike college basketball who schedules non conference games yearly
@@SixGodHobbsso you’re telling me Alabama decided to play against Who cares University because they thought these would be fantastic team when they play them? 😂
Everyone is beatable there’s no elite team this year but to not have them as the team to beat bc of a close win vs Wisconsin when everyone else has a very similar win or even loss in that type of game is crazy
They definitely could lose the big 10 chip but then they’d be the 5 seed which is a lot easier road then the 1 seed to the semi final if u want to pick them to lose to the big 12 winners or Boise at home be my guest meanwhile the 1 seed would face potentially Notre Dame Georgia bama
I'm a SCarolina grad but was shocked at the Nov 13 Sec network show.Finebaum uttered a bogus score and graph lying on Indiana Charlotte 20-15 real score 52-14 graphic Indiana WIlllinois 31-17 it was 77-6 Indiana.Pat u wouldn't lie like Fanni Willis and the Sec network.😢
The rankings are a mess, but the only real solution is to implement a computer-style system that objectively uses pre-determined criteria to rank the college football landscape and field the 12-team playoff. Of course everyone hated that when we had it (BCS).
I was going to say, everyone hated that. A computer can’t tell how good a team is. People that watched and understands football should be the ones that decide. Maybe use a BCS style system but only use that as data, not the end all be all
I thought the bracket projections were supposed to represent "if the tournament started today" - based on the current rankings, and excluding games yet to be played
NIL is going to redistribute talent away from the SEC and make college football as a whole more competitive across the board. SEC powerhouses aren't going to be able to recruit as deep of a team as other schools are able and willing to pay for that talent sitting back waiting on their turn. Promise them NIL deals and a starting role? Boom. Transferred. The south should get used to having good teams come out of other conferences bc it's gonna happen more often.
so you're admitting that the 12 team playoff was designed to keep the SEC out of the national championship.... So old money teams like Notre Dame, and Indiana can get some affirmative action
Uhhhhh.... what money difference. Just for an example, Iowa's college football budget is ~140 million and Bama's is ~130 million. There is no money advantage.@@masondraughon2589
@@georgelucas2571 they will continue to get the kids they always get. SEC schools aren’t going to all of sudden going to lose top talent because of NIL when the SEC schools have more.
IMO this has been the most exciting season of CFB during my lifetime. Die hard PSU fan. But, I love underdogs and the possibility of a Cinderella Story!
Should be some form of math based elo ranking that effectively grants points to winners of games based on how good the team you beat was and ranks teams on how many ranking points they've earned by winning games against good teams. Then automatic bids for certain conference champions and fill in the bracket with the highest ranked teams.
Conman says Clemson is probably gonna win out?? They have to go through South Carolina.. And a South Carolina wins how is that not enough to put them in?
So tired of the overrated sec. Every team in that league has two losses but one and the team with one has played one decent team. What’s the point of the acc and big 12 even participating if they hav skittle chance to get teams in.
The playoff committee always screw GA over. During the 4-team playoff, they left GA out with one loss because they weren't the conference champ. Then let Bama in the following year even though Bama didn't even play in the Conference Championship game. Same thing happened to GA last year. Then they talked about strength of schedule. Now that GA has the best strength of schedule in the nation, they're going based off wins and losses. The committee is a joke. It's full of mainly Big 10 biased people anyway.
@dilly70533 GA was still one of the best 4 teams last year. If they had gotten in, they would've won the Natty. They were just unlucky to have a bunch of injured starters when they played Bama. By the time the playoff came around, those starters were all healthy.
How ever this plays out, this is better than last year. Some teams might feels slighted, but they wouldn't even be a whisper last year. And if you weren't one of the four teams in the playoffs, half your stars probably sat out for the bowl game
This is why postseason NCAA FBS football is a joke. There's no objective metric on how teams are ranked and how they determine a team gets a playoff spot. And with conferences having 20 teams now, there's no way strength of schedule can be objective either. This will get even more controversial too as more schools get more competitive because of the NIL and transfer portal.
At this point just make it a march madness type of tournament with the top 25 teams making the tournament. "Shorten" the regular season to like 8/9 games and have a weekly elimination game with the losers playing in other bowl games. (I have no idea if this would work lmaooo this is all out the ass)
i play NCAA Football 25 and that clearly uses a computer program to project the bracket. im assuming the ncaa uses the same program for real life. week 12,13,14,15 the bracket in the video game is always screwed up. for example a team ranked 22 would be first seed because of where they rank in the conference or something like that. i know not to take those projected rankings seriously. but when it comes time to place seeds and actually create the bracket, it all works out. now there is a bit of oddity when it comes to independent teams.
There is no amount of teams in a playoff that will solve all of this drama. You just kick the can down the road with expansion so the debate is between worse and worse teams until, like March Madness, it hardly matters who's on the bubble because they're so far removed from the teams that could actually win it all.
Should have neverr had more than 10 teams in a conference. That way they had to play all teams in conference. THis loading up teams makes it easier for teams to get weaker schedule do to so many teams added to conference. The Pac 10 id gone now. Southwest conference is gone now. So many of great history is destroyed for money. Big 8 could have made 10 to save it. This whole setup is screwed.
I don't get why you would want the CFP committee to make that projection on your behalf? Until selection Sunday, their job is just to rank the teams. Not make a cool graphic that projects who is going to be included in and win their conference championship games. They don't even know who will be in the SEC championship right now, so why would their ranking make that projection in a bracket?
100% agree! Not sure who wants a ranking committee to make predictions on future games… makes no sense. Basically saying the committee should put Oregon ranked 5 if they think they will lose the Big Ten championship game? In what world does that make sense!?!?
Yeah, Pats rant about this makes no sense. ESPN fake bracket means nothing. No ones making them make it. The committees job is to rank teams, not guess whose going to win in the future. ESPN should show the rankings every week, and not show a bracket, complaining about a problem they created themselves lmao.
When it was Florida State last year, no one but Florida State fans were upset by them getting shafted out of the playoffs when they had 0 losses. Just wait until your 0 or 1 loss team is outvoted by the CFP ESPN monopoly so 6 SEC teams can get in
And the 4-6 SEC teams would likely wipe the floor with their matchup unless it’s an Ohio State, Oregon type team. Even a somewhat weakened TN team demolished Clemson and Iowa last couple years, and TN isn’t even the pinnacle of the SEC
@@rayyL95 Yeah, they are levels above, because every year the CFP and ESPN pay the teams millions based on if they are selected to go to the college football playoff semifinals (when it was only 4 teams), more money to the conference if they go to the national championship and for every non-championship bowl game they get a few million as well. Well, considering the SEC is constantly selected for every playoff and damn near all of them go to a major bowl game over everyone else too, I wonder how they got so far ahead?
@@rayyL95 If what you say is true (and I'm not agreeing or disagreeing) then they need their own playoffs just for them. The rest of the FBS can have their own playoffs. As is, the expansion was created to "give everyone a shot" (not my words), yet potentially undefeated/ one loss teams could be left out in favor of a SIXTH SEC team. What needs to happen? Does everyone in the SEC need FOUR losses? It's just not ever going to happen. The current expansion isn't fixing anything... In fact, it might be making it worse.
I would also like the SEC to explain, in some process detail, how Texas got the schedule they got while Florida got the schedule they got. Because the difference is massive, and it affects the whole national bracket. Maybe not this year with Florida being pretty bad, but as time goes on that sort of thing can't continue. And other teams have a similar case: compare Oklahoma to Missouri, just as another example.
Florida was a crap team no matter the schedule. With that being said, Texas was purposely given a soft schedule to reward them for coming to the SEC. They’ve had one hard game - Georgia - and that was a home game which they lost. SEC office put their fingers on the scales yet again.
@@SwampCritter-df4od, I agree with you. It’s like the SEC office wanted to force the records to be similar and guarantee all teams with 2 loses. The SEC is run by Alabama people.
I’m so confused. We did this because these teams DIDNT play each other outside of their conference. Now they’re forced to play each other week in and week out and now it’s a problem?
Georgia is getting punished for playing a strong strength of schedule. The have the most quality wins. They have the highest ranked wins. The have the highest ranked losses. They get no credit for the tough schedule and opening up the season by playing Clemson. Georgia should never schedule tough out of conference games again. When teams like Indiana and Miami have a poor in conference schedule and then schedule trash out of conference and get rewarded for it, why should anyone schedule tough out of conference. Georgia should be the highest rated 8-2 team and probably ranked over ND, Indiana and Miami. This is a cluster.
Wouldn’t be the first time. They hate and disrespect Georgia when Georgia arguably has the toughest schedule. Sounds like the committee would prefer wins with cupcake teams. Ridiculous
A loss is a loss, quit complaining. Either win your conference or accept the low cfp spot. If the SEC is so much better, then you shouldn’t have an issue with them proving it on the field. Better team is going to prevail regardless, no reason to complain about a ACC champ being a top 4 seed if you think a lower ranked team will beat em. That’s what football is all about, not sos bs.
@@southernsunshine1149NCAA and committee shot themselves in the foot with the FSU snub. You can’t whine about SOS (especially when Michigan won with the 50th sos) with non sec teams when we just had a 13-0 ACC champ, whom scheduled multiple sec games for their schedule (LSU with a Heisman, UF, don’t blame them that these sec teams sucked) their decision gave teams ZERO incentive to schedule tough games.
Anyone putting any stock into these cfp projections, and are getting bent out of shape, just need to stop. There are 2-3 more games for the majority of these teams left to play. It will sort itself out and to add fuel to the fire. Conference champions over any team that finishes 4th or even 3rd in their conference
Why do people keep saying if clemson beats miami theyll get in they dont play them at all if smu wins this week it will be miami smu for the conference championship
Nah if smu wins this weekend smu clinches a spot in the championship game. But there's still scenarios where Clemson can get in over miami. For example if miami loses to wake forest and Clemson wins out miami is out. Miami can't clinch a spot this weekend.
@eugeneperry8347 yeah I get that, all these sports shows and stuff are saying miami vs clemson for conference championship like they forget smu is in the acc
all fkd because it should be conference champions only. This bs bracket has already devalued conference championship games and even put the scenario out there of dipping on the game to save players.
@@landonwilcox1837 god that would be horrible. So we get a lot of average teams get in again and get destroyed? Yeah that sounds like a great playoff. Can’t wait to watch. So we’ll get JVST play against Oregon. Miami(Ohio) would play Texas. Let’s get UL in too. Why not they won their conference. My god, I’m getting so excited. It doesn’t devalue the conference win. If you win your conference, you can get one of 4 bye week. It’s not perfect but it’s a better system then what you have in place
You’re going to have that regardless. IMO if you cant win your conference you shouldn’t have a shot at a Natty. Lets be real doing it this way would eventually lead to conference realignment back to regions so the power houses would be able to punch their ticket without having to fight through a gauntlet of a schedule like the SEC schools are now.
Under the current system structure any team having played an extra conference game (title game) should get a bye. But the number of slots doesn’t allow for that.
Thank you!!! Its been driving me nuts how they do these seeding release shows. It's all predetermined. Miami might not even make the ACC Championship game lol. It's so misleading to those who dont understand how the playoff system works
The BCS was never just computers and historically the BCS ranking system changed 9 times, so when you say bring back the BCS, which iteration are you referring to?
Can we just get rid of the committee entirely and have everything determined by wins and losses like literally every other sport? EDIT: Since you all lack basic critical thinking, I have to clarify I mean strength of record. Ofc Army shouldn’t be 2 dummies
This would be by far the worst solution. You'd have tons of really crappy teams who made the playoffs just by scheduling opponents not even in their division. The big teams like Alabama would avoid scheduling any kind of a challenge, which would basically mean the only regular season game that matters is the conference championship.
Just wait until A&M beats Texas and they somehow justify putting Texas in over TN. It’s all about bias and brand names. I hate TN but they deserve to be in. One of the best defenses in the country and great run game
@@DennisFeinsteinCEOyet ND beat Texas A&M and those guys are going through a lot of the SEC. Being in the SEC doesn’t magically make their teams better.
@@Ceece20 And? A&M isn't a good team, by a LONG shot. They've had the weakest SEC schedule and good molly-whopped by SC??? Beating A&M isn't a quality win.
They get by name alone. They lost to a terrible team, played a couple mid teams (A&M and Louisville), and played a group of weak teams... anyone else with this schedule would not be under consideration.
Don't blame Notre Dame for going into TAMU and beating them by double digits. And why single out Notre Dame? Who has Texas beat? Who has Penn State beat? When is Indiana going to play a ranked team? And when they finally get around to doing it, will it matter when they lose? This is not a "Notre Dame problem".
@@John_Hoover because Notre dame is the most mediocre of them all . If any teams doesn’t deserve to be on this list it’s them , every year they are given a spot or ranking and every year they play someone like bama or UGA or Texas or Ohio state and get blown out the water
It should have ZERO to do with a conference, it should have everything to do with the 12 BEST teams. Not most deserving, best eye test, or other subjective metric.
@@dariuswilliams3206 not at all, do not use any ranking data, just wins losses, opponents wins losses, yards and points for off and def, and maybe turnover margin. Then you can use data for all 134 teams and get a real metric with no bias or rankings, just in the field game data
Glad we have a committee, instead of computers and a playoffs so we don’t have fighting over rankings because back in the old days in was no stop bickering /s
Once the field was increased to 12 all teams not in the top 12 can go home and deal with it. I don't care who you played or if you would make a better match up. if you lost 2 or more games get out.
The playoffs are fine people are gonna complain no matter what yall clearly forgot when College ball didn’t have a playoffs and the committee picked the 2 Championship Teams
The committee at 4 teams “the acc and b12 will be lucky to get one team in the playoff each year.” The committee at 12 teams, a 300% increase, “the acc and b12 will be lucky to get one team in the playoff each year.” 😂😂🤦🏼♂️😢😢
It's so stupid. Clemson Miami and Smu are good enough to play in it. They SHOULD get 2 of those. Taking 5-6 sec teams is stupid. They get rewarded for losing 3 games to each other.
@@jimjason5146 SMU? are you kidding me they beat up bums all year. Clemson lost to Georgia and LOUISVILLE they shouldn't be in the cfp. Miami beat the university of cal by 1 and lost to GT 😂
love that this year its all of a sudden "making your conference championship matters" but the Georgia team who did that last year was left out due to "reasons". how can we take this committee seriously?
Georgia was the best team all season last year and lost by 3 points. Texas should not have made it in. Georgia would have won the whole thing again. They would have been finally healthy.
I said this years ago back in 2000-2006. If D1 would have adopted D2's system they'd have made more money let alone would have been able to make lower level schools have more noteable. I'm finally liking this. But they should do what D2 does on Regions. Not top so many
Don’t see why the playoff committee should predict conference championships. Their role is to rank the top 12 teams or 25 and at the end of the season after the championship games are played. It’ll be clear. It’s always been that way. And if you’re the champion more than likely, you’re gonna be ranked higher than anybody else in the conference.
The committee doesn't predict the champions. ESPN does that to show what the potential bracket would look like and give themselves something to discuss between now and Saturday.
What i wonder is how college football fans outside of the SEC arent outraged by how sec football is flipping amazing every weekend, but their team is playing boring games almost every week. Almost can forget their is college football outside the SEC
This is a TV show. They are trying to get eye balls, people talking about the playoff with a passion and this is the first year they have done this. My biggest issue is everyone should have to join a conference, you have to play a certain level of competition a power 5 level team (ex: Alabama playing mercer NOPE), and have a conference championship game which brings in more money. So they will realize how money they are making and will expand the playoff to 16 and no one should have a gripe they didn't get in. Also to add Notre Dame should be a 12 seed. They have the worst loss out of all 12 teams a mac school at home.
Listen when 2 teams outside of top 12 gets in instead of 2 higher ranked teams the system is wrong. ACC and Big12 should not get a bye, throw the auto bids out and rank the 1-12 best teams
No. What’s the point of conference championships then? Your proposed format would ultimately devalue regular season games. If you’re in the SEC then win your championship and you have nothing to complain about. Even then, if the SEC is sooo much better, then prove it on the field. Who cares if a team like Miami gets a bye they earned it, the better team will prevail on the field. You shouldn’t be rewarded for a “quality loss” God I hate sec shills. Teams like LSU and Florida have been getting dogged by top teams outside of the conference, and even mid tier ones (USC, for starters)
@@J311yStain LOL its funny listening to your logic, I am NOT a SEC person and have been tired of it for years of complaining BUT as a Buckeye fan and CF fan I want the best teams in. If my guys lose Saturday they should not be in because our conference is down accept for the top teams. You must be a ACC or Big12 guy to get all heated from a RUclips post. Wow relax it is just a game
But how do you determine the best 12,? SOS is a bad argument- Michigan won the natty with the 50th SOS How do you even accurately determine SOS when teams play less than half of their conference opponents??
A lot of issues with the CFP Selection process but can’t deny it’s exciting. House Divided here - allegiance to two Teams (One SEC, One Big Ten) - hope they both get in and somehow meet in a Playoff game…if they play the first round game near me - I’m there!
17:43 "Just come up North in December. We're gonna punch you in the mouth in December and see how that goes!" Sooooo the Big Ten's argument is if we have enough inclement weather we can at least make SEC teams uncomfortable? You STILL can't beat the SEC! Alabama went all the way up to Wisconsin to play in September. They won 42-10 in Wisconsin! The FACTS are always the same. The Big Ten has one or two teams that can compete. The SEC has 8!
This is ridiculous South Carolina has a better strength of schedule and beat number 10 Texas A&M pretty good and by 20 points and just beat number 23 Missouri and barely lost to Alabama.Who has indiana beat.South Carolina should get in at number 12 spot.South Carolina has about the Second or third ranked defense in the country.
As a TN fan. How is Arkansas a good win for Texas but a bad loss for TN? This whole system makes no sense
And losing at Arkansas is worse than losing at home to Kentucky (Ole Miss)
Because Texas has had a terrible strength of schedule so Arkansas is one of their biggest wins but that isn’t saying a lot. Same way Indiana beating Washington isn’t that great overall but is good for their schedule
As a non TN fan you are absolutely right. The system is flawed and bias. Watch A&M beat Texas and Texas still get in over TN somehow. It’s all about brand. Funny how they somehow value a win over GA to be higher than a win vs Bama (who beat GA).
Because Texas is the real UT
I think it’s irrelevant since one of those teams has 2 losses, frankly ole miss lost to Kentucky too there schedule sucks all they did was beat georgia who also has 2 losses they aren’t exactly worth gifting a spot to ole miss in the top 10
Only 3 teams are undefeated and one is a military school what a year
Go Army! BEAT NOTRE DAME!
Bro if army beats Notre Dame I’m hedging $5k on every game after that. I stand to make $80k if they can make it to the championship lol
I can't wait for the Army v Navy matchup😤
@@MrDoWork210put army at #1 if they beat notre dame just for a week out of respect
@@johnhicks8626 Only way that happens is if the US Army stops the ND buses from arriving to the stadium.
Shoutout to Pat McAfee who was the only one on College Gameday that picked the Sun Devils > Kansas State while Desmond Howard and the others laughed it off 😂🔱
Forks up
Sec fan here but I been saying last few weeks asu was being slept on. Nice run this yr like seeing them do well.
This weekend will be the biggest game in a decade for ASU. I’ll be glued to the TV rooting on my Devils!
Desmond Howard was too stupid to know the teams are both good, lol
As an Oregon fan, I hate that I support ASU now
I just don’t get it. They want the tournament like basketball but are so afraid of a Cinderella story.
elitist thinking governs the ncaa football world.
Because there won’t be one
This is just how the politics of college football rankings works, win/loss record isn't good enough.
College footballs talent discrepancy doesn’t allow a Cinderella to have a shot in hell at winning a national title game. The big 12 champ and Boise being in there is just for shits and giggles, we have two super conferences, acc maybe semi decent and big 12 is a junior varsity football conference in comparison to the SEC and big ten
Because it’s more definitive in football which team is better. Basketball is all a matter of which team can get hot and make shots so there’s always a chance. No one wants to see Georgia play BYU. Georgia would win by 40.😂
Conference Realignment has completely ruined the Strength of Schedule argument. Before teams would’ve played the majority of their conference in the regular season, now it’s highly unlikely any team will play even half of its conference. And if the scheduling God’s look down on them, they could avoid the toughest teams in their conference. Strength of Schedule no longer feels like a fair data point.
Why doesn’t it matter who a team played?
@@robjohnston1712are you serious?
@@BiggieAEnjoyer69 me not know :)
Tell Georgia
That kinda makes the point for strength of schedule mattering more though right? What would UGA or Bama’s record look like if they played Miami’s schedule? Penn State’s best win is a Wisconsin team that got smoked by Bama.
Someone should tell Boston Connor that Miami isn’t going to play Clemson. I don’t think he knows that SMU is undefeated in the ACC
SMU is getting no respect
He’s a clown
Isn’t SMU 9-1? They’ll be in the championship game 100%
@ only lost to BYU. Beat undefeated at the time Duke and best ranked Pitt and Louisville
I'm surprised they didn't mention how ND doesn't even have to play in a conference championship bc they're independent. I think it should be no conference, no post season.
I love it how SMU controls its own destiny in getting to the ACC title game and has a solid chance to win it but is never getting any respect with any of the talking heads
They’re literally ranked above the team they lost to
The fact that yall are saying “Miami fans are pissed because they have a bad draw and may have to play Georgia” should be proof that Miami should not be ranked ahead of Georgia.
No problem with Bama and ole miss being ahead of UGA. But notre dame, Penn state, and Miami is a stretch
Head to head is flawed Georgia has better wins then bama ole miss
Texas shouldn't be the #1 Sec. I know they have the best record but they have played the weakest SEC schedule with 5 of their 6 SEC wins coming from the bottom 8 teams in the SEC. I guarantee they will lose to Texas A&M in 2 weeks. It will be A&M and Georgia in the Title Game.
@ for sure, I’m saying I can atleast hear the argument of having bama and ole miss ahead of them (especially ole miss).
I was suprised by how much bama moved up. Despite that 1st quarter UGA dominated them and they also lost to Tennessee. I feel bad for UT fans, looks like head to head wins didn’t mean much for them
@@Nyla009so the Georgia win wasn't a good one for Bama. Tell me, what win does Georgia have better than that?
Alabama is 5th in the SEC. How are they even in the 12
Y'know. Every single other level of college football has just a regular ass bracket (with the first eight seeds clinchable I think?), and they play it through till you get a title game, and a winner. Why the FBS has always thought it's so high and mighty has always been beyond me.
Its not that the conference commishers wanted special caveats to agree to a format
Politics
The SEC and ACC have wanted a playoff since the 90's but the Big 10 and Big 12 said it would favor the SEC too much. Instead we got the BCS and the SEC winning more than the other conferences combined.
As an alum from an FCS school, the chaos of this CFP bracket makes my heart warm. There might be one or two seedings that are head scratchers each year, but in the end, the bracket will correct itself.
FBS has a far greater gap in spending on football amongst programs. This is a business, the teams that actually put money into football should be favored.
With the transfer portal and coaching carousel, it’s a lot harder to predict strength of schedule in the off season.
TN just needs a "Any Given Saturday" to happen in the next 2 weeks
You'll always be Campions of Life.
Idk why people thought expanding the playoff would make the debates go away. With such a subjective rating system teams are ALWAYS gonna feel left out.
I’ve seen figure skating competitions be more objective than this.
Eye Test = The committee can do whatever they want to, regardless of common sense and facts.
Coaches should not be allowed on this committee ITS ALREADY COMPROMISED!
So keep all the ADs that are currently employed and kick off the 3 coaches that aren't active?
Not only coaches but the AD at Michigan who were penalized for cheating last year as this was being planned.
"Eye Test" and "Football Judgement" is just another way of saying "eastern biased for people who don't watch western games" and "brand bias".
$ and power is the prize and why they won't let go of their self described unbiased assessments
In prior years I’d agree, but this year, what am I missing, is there any west coast teams outside of Oregon worth mentioning? They all suck, this isn’t a CMC robbery situation lol.
@ There are 2 and 1 loss teams that are just as worthy of discussion as the log jam of 2 loss SEC or BIG 10 schools.
Most western football teams don't invest into their programs, they aren't serious about football.
@@ThreadAndCircuses1 Man that is just whining.... The final results will tell the story
If SEC wants the respect they think they have then I don’t ever want to see Alabama play fuckin Mercer ever again.
How they fared in the entirety playoffs didn't earn it?
Alabama should schedule more Mercers if the strength of schedule doesn’t matter. Their best non conference win (@Wisconsin) is going to be Penn State’s best win all regular season
Those games will never go away. That’s how schools like Mercer keep their sporting programs alive. It certainly isn’t because of ticket sales
@buckfan125 exactly, I'm not a fan of sec playing 8 but they have never been penalized for doing and have no incentive to change. Also just mouthing the conference has no merit based on the success it's had in the last quarter century. They've had a 50% of producing the national champ in that timespan
Nah when their teams play teams like usc, okst, and Notre Dame, they lose. Mercer much more conducive to making the playoffs
People wake up!!. When it was top 2.. people flipped out saying its unfair. When it was top 4, people flipped out. In college basketball with 64 people freak out. There is no number of teams that people will be happy. You could have every team in college football and people would still complain.
it's 68 in basketball, but yeah, so long as FBS insists on keeping the playoffs so small and having no guaranteed way to play into the playoffs means people will always be mad about it. literally no other sport, or even level of college football, does this. it's stupid.
There are levels to this though. Which garnered more outrage: FSU getting left out in football or literally anybody getting left out of March Madness this year? Someone's always gonna be mad but the discussion being #4 vs #5 is a lot more consequential to determining the national champion than, say, #40 vs #41
1 is too many and a 1000 is never enough syndrome...
The Issue is we don't need a tiny playoff committee deciding it all. Bring back the coaches polls and computer rankings, and let them pick out 12 teams.
The problem is how teams are getting selected, the inconsistency of it, and how little explanation is actually given.
Until FBS divorces itself from the Associated Press, this will never be solved. Every other college football division has a normal playoff structure, just like every other college sport. Conference champions and a couple wildcards, done. No AP rankings, no strength of schedule BS, just the best of the best.
FCS I know for sure has a ranking system, but I agree, FBS needs a way to play in for every single team. There should be a way for each and every team to start the season 0-0 and know what they have to do to guarantee a trip to the playoffs
What a novel concept? It’s almost as if every other sport on this planet does it this way. But how would the SEC and B1G keep dominating if everyone has equal access to the playoffs?? We can’t allow that to go away
Colorado vs Army In the first round would be absolutely BONKERS!!! Would make for an AMAZING GAME!!!
Then either one completely gets destroyed by a sec team in the next round..
Lol, no one would watch it.
@@JayTide Check the ratings Bro... People been watching EVERY Colorado game no matter WHO they play. People would definitely tune in to this one to see who wins... (So they can know which team is gonna get blown out by an SEC team next week!) lol
@@sjb7963 go look at the TV ratings. Colorado has a cult following but not much more.
Screw the eye test, that's subjective as hell
Well isn’t the ranking subjective? These ranking are by a committee who they think are the best teams. So that’s subjective as hell
Very excited to see my BSU Broncos in the mix!
BOISE
Go Boise! Shock the world
💯💙🧡🐎
Seeing Boise State in the playoff mix again just brings me joy. And I hope they don't screw it up again.
Again! Please explain?
If Miami were to lose to Clemson?
Somebody is not paying attention . . .
Ill be pissed if army beats ND and army doesnt get in still
yup
Unfortunately they won’t their schedule is crap and they don’t bring enough eyes (money)
The service academies have to much going against them especially recruiting IMO
But as a vet I’ll always half ass cheer for those officers in training
Army and Boise as auto-bids over B12 champ 👀
Don't worry, you don't need to be pissed. ND is gonna kill Army. So it will be a moot point.
@@pffrenchif army beats notre dame it will be notre dame out an Army in. The big 12 will still be represented.
As a Penn State alumni, does anyone in the world think Penn State or Indiana beat a UGA, Alabama, or Tennessee? Penn state struggled against Bowling Green for crying out loud…the Big 10 is a great conference, but you cant convince me it’s better than the SEC. Also, can anyone believe Florida State is getting snubbed for a second year in a row? Come one committee, how can you do that to the Seminoles?
😂
BS on PSU alumnus! Furthermore SEC is very mediocre this year. And everyone has a bad game or two a year. How did Oregon look against Wisconsin? So by your logic since they struggled they wouldn't stand a chance against 2 loss Alabama who lost Vanderbilt and a two loss Georgia or Tennessee. You're being foolish so just stop.
For crying out loud lookin ahh
@@suncoastfishing6672 are you really telling me I didn’t graduate from Penn State? It’s better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you’re stupid, rather than to open it and let everyone know you are. Speaking of foolish, you should learn to proofread before calling someone else foolish…go waste someone else’s time chief
The Seminoles have won 1 game, ONE
They’re 1-9, you lost credibility with asking why they’re being snubbed “second year in a row “
If anyone can screw something up, it's the NCAA. It won't have anywhere near the 12 best teams.
The NCAA has nothing to do with the Playoff though.
The committee is the ncaas proxy. And most of them are in the good ol boy club. The wink wink club as it were.
We need a "March Madness" style tournament. There are too many good teams every yr who get left out.
That would be an entire season.
Many players with NFL potential would sit out.
64 teams .... No.
Its not realistic at all.
I think FSU snub last year proved they don’t care about record
That seems to make sense, but then Texas shouldn't be ranked ahead of Georgia in that case. Yet they are. Because the committee is only consistent in its inconsistency.
Yup game results do not matter just their preferences
How did FSU do in their bowl game?
@@irishamerican1974FSU started their 3rd string freshman QB and every one of the 11 draft picks did not play…..
Only a casual would think that was a real game. It was a boycott.
Literally everyone in the G5 - yeah i think this was proved about 30 years ago.......
Suggested Formula for College Football Playoffs
1)Go to 16 Teams as follows:
2)All major conferences (Power 4) go
back to divisions. Champ of each
Division auto qualifiers (8)
3)Champion of each power 4 conf
gets week 1 buy
4)Top rated conference overall (Based
on overall strength of schedule AND
OUT OF CONFERENCE
RECORD)gets an additional 2
qualifiers (2)
5)Top 2 non power 4 teams qualify (2)
6)3 at large teams selected based on
formula emphasizing strength of
schedule and record (3). NOTE-
Teams not eligible to play in a
conference championship (read
independents)must play an
additional 13th game OR be ranked
in top 8 to qualify)
7) Final team selected based on
criteria of “hottest available team”
(emphasis on second half / most
recent trend)(1).
This allows for a particularly packed conference to (in theory) get as many as 8 qualifiers (2 auto, 2 additional, 3 at large and 1 hottest team). Although HIGHLY unlikely!
Typical season would see top conference get 4 -5 qualifiers (2 auto, 2 additional, perhaps 1 at large). Next best power 4 would still likely get 3-4 (2 auto, 1-2 at large or hottest team)
This also protects non-power 4 by guaranteeing 2 qualifiers. It also keeps entire season for all top 25 teams relevant by providing a mechanism for a team that matures late, or gets hot with some big top 25 wins. (Think South Carolina this year).
Bottom line is that you remove downside of playing in conference championship, give maximum flexibility to insure top teams and match-ups (regardless of what conference a team is in), removes any advantage of not being in a conference, AND reduces likelihood a deserving team is left off.
This is actually how it should be.
College Football needs a massive face lift.
- Split D-1 into two tiers (Tier 1/2).
- Tier One is the 64 best teams, split into 8 conferences (8 Teams in each).
- They play 7 conference games and 5 non-conf.
- No conf championship, just the best 12 or 16 teams into the playoff (pity bowl games for the rest of the teams)
- The worse team out of 64 gets demoted to tier two each year
- the champ of tier two gets promoted, and is given some recruiting boost to help them adjust (maybe even make them immune from demotion for one or two years)
Anyone who has played a CFB dynasty is on board with this. There needs to be relegation but the blue bloods will never in a million years agree to this
I think there will definitely be some fuckery with the final rankings bc the committee is going to rank teams 5-12 with matchups and the bracket in mind. So I think the only part that really matters for those teams are if you in the 5-8 group that gets to host a game or if you’re in the 9-12 group that has to go on the road…
Everyone leaving out a team atop the SEC, TAMU
The strength of schedule is stupid, you can’t help who the ncaa puts on your schedule
Not necessarily true. They play a part in picking the out of conference games.
@@tylorarcher8439Non conference games are scheduled 5-8 years in advance. No idea what a your program or another program is gonna look. Unlike college basketball who schedules non conference games yearly
@@SixGodHobbsso you’re telling me Alabama decided to play against Who cares University because they thought these would be fantastic team when they play them? 😂
The NCAA doesn't schedule games. The conference does and schools do OOC opponents. Hell the Playoff isn't even run by the NCAA.
Dude, what are you talking about? The NCAA doesn’t make up a school’s schedule. You sound stupid.
Then Indiana biggest win was Nebraska before they forgot how to play football.
Wait a minute….Vanderbilt is a good win now?????
The knocked of the #1 team in convincing fashion. Lost to Texas by 3. And are the current owners of the state of Alabama.
It's TX's best win.
They are pimps this year.
Oregon definitely seems like they’re the team to beat despite Wisconsin testing them in primetime!
Who is the team to beat then? Can’t wait to see the irony
Oregon is overrated. Between the Wisconsin game & Boise State they are def beatable
Everyone is beatable there’s no elite team this year but to not have them as the team to beat bc of a close win vs Wisconsin when everyone else has a very similar win or even loss in that type of game is crazy
Oregon loses big10 title game and out first playoff game.
They definitely could lose the big 10 chip but then they’d be the 5 seed which is a lot easier road then the 1 seed to the semi final if u want to pick them to lose to the big 12 winners or Boise at home be my guest meanwhile the 1 seed would face potentially Notre Dame Georgia bama
This isn’t that confusing at all the rankings and how people get in has been this way 😂 it’s literally been ranks and projections
I'm a SCarolina grad but was shocked at the Nov 13 Sec network show.Finebaum uttered a bogus score and graph lying on Indiana Charlotte 20-15 real score 52-14 graphic Indiana WIlllinois 31-17 it was 77-6 Indiana.Pat u wouldn't lie like Fanni Willis and the Sec network.😢
The rankings are a mess, but the only real solution is to implement a computer-style system that objectively uses pre-determined criteria to rank the college football landscape and field the 12-team playoff. Of course everyone hated that when we had it (BCS).
I was going to say, everyone hated that. A computer can’t tell how good a team is. People that watched and understands football should be the ones that decide. Maybe use a BCS style system but only use that as data, not the end all be all
I thought the bracket projections were supposed to represent "if the tournament started today" - based on the current rankings, and excluding games yet to be played
NIL is going to redistribute talent away from the SEC and make college football as a whole more competitive across the board. SEC powerhouses aren't going to be able to recruit as deep of a team as other schools are able and willing to pay for that talent sitting back waiting on their turn. Promise them NIL deals and a starting role? Boom. Transferred. The south should get used to having good teams come out of other conferences bc it's gonna happen more often.
so you're admitting that the 12 team playoff was designed to keep the SEC out of the national championship....
So old money teams like Notre Dame, and Indiana can get some affirmative action
How many non SEC schools have the money SEC schools have? The talent is staying down south.
Uhhhhh.... what money difference.
Just for an example, Iowa's college football budget is ~140 million and Bama's is ~130 million. There is no money advantage.@@masondraughon2589
@@masondraughon2589Ohio State, Notre Dame, Michigan, Oregon, USC etc…
@@georgelucas2571 they will continue to get the kids they always get. SEC schools aren’t going to all of sudden going to lose top talent because of NIL when the SEC schools have more.
IMO this has been the most exciting season of CFB during my lifetime.
Die hard PSU fan. But, I love underdogs and the possibility of a Cinderella Story!
Bose state loss was to the ducks it was a close game
Should be some form of math based elo ranking that effectively grants points to winners of games based on how good the team you beat was and ranks teams on how many ranking points they've earned by winning games against good teams.
Then automatic bids for certain conference champions and fill in the bracket with the highest ranked teams.
Conman says Clemson is probably gonna win out?? They have to go through South Carolina..
And a South Carolina wins how is that not enough to put them in?
Because south carolina has 3 losses, and there are too many teams ahead with less in the SEC.
They are the 7th best team in the SEC. There’s 16 teams. That’s not impressive.
So tired of the overrated sec. Every team in that league has two losses but one and the team with one has played one decent team. What’s the point of the acc and big 12 even participating if they hav skittle chance to get teams in.
You can be tired if the SEC al you want, but calling that conference overrated is sheer cope.
The playoff committee always screw GA over. During the 4-team playoff, they left GA out with one loss because they weren't the conference champ. Then let Bama in the following year even though Bama didn't even play in the Conference Championship game. Same thing happened to GA last year. Then they talked about strength of schedule. Now that GA has the best strength of schedule in the nation, they're going based off wins and losses. The committee is a joke. It's full of mainly Big 10 biased people anyway.
Exactly 💯, the committee is corrupt hands down...
Bro, it was a 4 team playoff. If it was a 12 team bracket Georgia would have been the 5th seed and hosted a playoff game.
@dilly70533 GA was still one of the best 4 teams last year. If they had gotten in, they would've won the Natty. They were just unlucky to have a bunch of injured starters when they played Bama. By the time the playoff came around, those starters were all healthy.
@tonystarks7715 The committee is definitely Big 10 biased. The guy in charge is a Big 10 alumni and is currently an employee of Michigan.
Insane thing to say. SEC gets the biggest bias by far
How ever this plays out, this is better than last year. Some teams might feels slighted, but they wouldn't even be a whisper last year.
And if you weren't one of the four teams in the playoffs, half your stars probably sat out for the bowl game
Let’s go Boise! Give them the bye week
This is why postseason NCAA FBS football is a joke. There's no objective metric on how teams are ranked and how they determine a team gets a playoff spot. And with conferences having 20 teams now, there's no way strength of schedule can be objective either. This will get even more controversial too as more schools get more competitive because of the NIL and transfer portal.
1:30 funny, Texas has a win over Michigan too but have not heard anyone on TV actually say it.
And it was over in the first half. In the big house.
Michigan sucks, so no one cares
Michigan is .500. Who cares
At this point just make it a march madness type of tournament with the top 25 teams making the tournament. "Shorten" the regular season to like 8/9 games and have a weekly elimination game with the losers playing in other bowl games.
(I have no idea if this would work lmaooo this is all out the ass)
i play NCAA Football 25 and that clearly uses a computer program to project the bracket. im assuming the ncaa uses the same program for real life. week 12,13,14,15 the bracket in the video game is always screwed up. for example a team ranked 22 would be first seed because of where they rank in the conference or something like that. i know not to take those projected rankings seriously. but when it comes time to place seeds and actually create the bracket, it all works out. now there is a bit of oddity when it comes to independent teams.
The boys talking college football is one of the best things to watch on RUclips. Love this so much
a 16 team playoff with no committee solves all this drama. clear set of rules that determine playoff eligibility
So who decides that? Everyone hated the BCS system
Other than conference champion what are the rest?
There is no amount of teams in a playoff that will solve all of this drama. You just kick the can down the road with expansion so the debate is between worse and worse teams until, like March Madness, it hardly matters who's on the bubble because they're so far removed from the teams that could actually win it all.
Should have neverr had more than 10 teams in a conference. That way they had to play all teams in conference. THis loading up teams makes it easier for teams to get weaker schedule do to so many teams added to conference. The Pac 10 id gone now. Southwest conference is gone now. So many of great history is destroyed for money. Big 8 could have made 10 to save it. This whole setup is screwed.
I don't get why you would want the CFP committee to make that projection on your behalf? Until selection Sunday, their job is just to rank the teams. Not make a cool graphic that projects who is going to be included in and win their conference championship games. They don't even know who will be in the SEC championship right now, so why would their ranking make that projection in a bracket?
100% agree! Not sure who wants a ranking committee to make predictions on future games… makes no sense. Basically saying the committee should put Oregon ranked 5 if they think they will lose the Big Ten championship game? In what world does that make sense!?!?
Exactly. ESPN is just putting the bracket for how it looks based off the rankings atm. Idk how this is hard to understand
Yeah, Pats rant about this makes no sense. ESPN fake bracket means nothing. No ones making them make it. The committees job is to rank teams, not guess whose going to win in the future. ESPN should show the rankings every week, and not show a bracket, complaining about a problem they created themselves lmao.
Why is Missouri ranked? We know the reason why. The committee's constant hardon for Bama.
RTR cry me a river
The athletic Director of Michigan is the lead of the college football committee. No wonder why Oregon, Ohio State and Penn State are in the top five.
Maybe you should look at win loss records clown😂
Thats because this college football tournament is GARBAGE!
Colorado played one of the easiest schedules ever
When it was Florida State last year, no one but Florida State fans were upset by them getting shafted out of the playoffs when they had 0 losses.
Just wait until your 0 or 1 loss team is outvoted by the CFP ESPN monopoly so 6 SEC teams can get in
You going to cry because the SEC is levels above most conferences if not all.
And the 4-6 SEC teams would likely wipe the floor with their matchup unless it’s an Ohio State, Oregon type team. Even a somewhat weakened TN team demolished Clemson and Iowa last couple years, and TN isn’t even the pinnacle of the SEC
@@rayyL95 Yeah, they are levels above, because every year the CFP and ESPN pay the teams millions based on if they are selected to go to the college football playoff semifinals (when it was only 4 teams), more money to the conference if they go to the national championship and for every non-championship bowl game they get a few million as well. Well, considering the SEC is constantly selected for every playoff and damn near all of them go to a major bowl game over everyone else too, I wonder how they got so far ahead?
@@SweetRyGuyand yet they lost last year and weren’t even in the finals. Being in the SEC doesn’t magically make them tougher than anyone else.
@@rayyL95 If what you say is true (and I'm not agreeing or disagreeing) then they need their own playoffs just for them. The rest of the FBS can have their own playoffs. As is, the expansion was created to "give everyone a shot" (not my words), yet potentially undefeated/ one loss teams could be left out in favor of a SIXTH SEC team. What needs to happen? Does everyone in the SEC need FOUR losses? It's just not ever going to happen. The current expansion isn't fixing anything... In fact, it might be making it worse.
I would also like the SEC to explain, in some process detail, how Texas got the schedule they got while Florida got the schedule they got. Because the difference is massive, and it affects the whole national bracket. Maybe not this year with Florida being pretty bad, but as time goes on that sort of thing can't continue. And other teams have a similar case: compare Oklahoma to Missouri, just as another example.
Florida was a crap team no matter the schedule. With that being said, Texas was purposely given a soft schedule to reward them for coming to the SEC. They’ve had one hard game - Georgia - and that was a home game which they lost. SEC office put their fingers on the scales yet again.
@@ugadawgs1990 OK, so what about Oklahoma? That was a tough schedule. And Missouri's dead easy. The total lack of balance is striking.
@@SwampCritter-df4od, I agree with you. It’s like the SEC office wanted to force the records to be similar and guarantee all teams with 2 loses. The SEC is run by Alabama people.
Conferences need realigned for this bracket to have a chance of making sense. Instead of loading up the SEC and Big 10, shrink them .
100%. Also need more cross-conference matchups in order to better see which conferences truly are the deepest.
I’m so confused. We did this because these teams DIDNT play each other outside of their conference. Now they’re forced to play each other week in and week out and now it’s a problem?
It's obviously none of those metrics. It's just a discussion they have between each other then they decide the ranking based on how they feel
Georgia is getting punished for playing a strong strength of schedule. The have the most quality wins. They have the highest ranked wins. The have the highest ranked losses. They get no credit for the tough schedule and opening up the season by playing Clemson. Georgia should never schedule tough out of conference games again. When teams like Indiana and Miami have a poor in conference schedule and then schedule trash out of conference and get rewarded for it, why should anyone schedule tough out of conference. Georgia should be the highest rated 8-2 team and probably ranked over ND, Indiana and Miami. This is a cluster.
Georgia is in if they win out. So not much controversy
Wouldn’t be the first time. They hate and disrespect Georgia when Georgia arguably has the toughest schedule. Sounds like the committee would prefer wins with cupcake teams. Ridiculous
No it doesn't
A loss is a loss, quit complaining. Either win your conference or accept the low cfp spot. If the SEC is so much better, then you shouldn’t have an issue with them proving it on the field. Better team is going to prevail regardless, no reason to complain about a ACC champ being a top 4 seed if you think a lower ranked team will beat em. That’s what football is all about, not sos bs.
@@southernsunshine1149NCAA and committee shot themselves in the foot with the FSU snub. You can’t whine about SOS (especially when Michigan won with the 50th sos) with non sec teams when we just had a 13-0 ACC champ, whom scheduled multiple sec games for their schedule (LSU with a Heisman, UF, don’t blame them that these sec teams sucked) their decision gave teams ZERO incentive to schedule tough games.
Anyone putting any stock into these cfp projections, and are getting bent out of shape, just need to stop. There are 2-3 more games for the majority of these teams left to play. It will sort itself out and to add fuel to the fire. Conference champions over any team that finishes 4th or even 3rd in their conference
Why do people keep saying if clemson beats miami theyll get in they dont play them at all if smu wins this week it will be miami smu for the conference championship
Nah if smu wins this weekend smu clinches a spot in the championship game. But there's still scenarios where Clemson can get in over miami. For example if miami loses to wake forest and Clemson wins out miami is out. Miami can't clinch a spot this weekend.
@eugeneperry8347 yeah I get that, all these sports shows and stuff are saying miami vs clemson for conference championship like they forget smu is in the acc
Maybe they shouldn’t do rankings until rivalry week. Then you can see the rankings before conference championships.
How about the SEC play 9 conference games before bitching about being potentially left out?
Lol How about ANY big 10 team plays a SEC schedule & they'll have 3 or more losses EVERY year!
Outside of a couple teams, the big 10 sucks!
@@travisgregory8971 So basically the SEC?
@MattBuild4 OSU & Oregon only in B10. Georgia, Bama, Tennessee & now Texas. I didn't even mention Ole Miss because they aren't a blue blood.
@@MattBuild4 And the big 10 doesn't go through a meat grinder of a schedule EVERY year like we do!
Dang, I’ve never watched any of Pats shows ever. I’m gonna have to admit, it was fun speculating the playoff scenario with him!
all fkd because it should be conference champions only. This bs bracket has already devalued conference championship games and even put the scenario out there of dipping on the game to save players.
So a 4 playoff team? Didn’t we just have that? Yeah let’s gives BYU a chance. I’m sure they can beat Texas, Oregon or Miami
10 teams, all division one conference champions racked and stacked by the playoff committee rankings.
@@landonwilcox1837 god that would be horrible. So we get a lot of average teams get in again and get destroyed? Yeah that sounds like a great playoff. Can’t wait to watch. So we’ll get JVST play against Oregon. Miami(Ohio) would play Texas. Let’s get UL in too. Why not they won their conference. My god, I’m getting so excited.
It doesn’t devalue the conference win. If you win your conference, you can get one of 4 bye week. It’s not perfect but it’s a better system then what you have in place
You’re going to have that regardless. IMO if you cant win your conference you shouldn’t have a shot at a Natty. Lets be real doing it this way would eventually lead to conference realignment back to regions so the power houses would be able to punch their ticket without having to fight through a gauntlet of a schedule like the SEC schools are now.
Under the current system structure any team having played an extra conference game (title game) should get a bye. But the number of slots doesn’t allow for that.
Thank you!!! Its been driving me nuts how they do these seeding release shows. It's all predetermined. Miami might not even make the ACC Championship game lol. It's so misleading to those who dont understand how the playoff system works
I hope SMU beats Miami the ACC title.
Screw the committee and bring back the computers. Bring back the BCS to determine the 12 team playoff……
Or not. 😂😂😂
The BCS was never just computers and historically the BCS ranking system changed 9 times, so when you say bring back the BCS, which iteration are you referring to?
@ I was being sarcastic.
Can we just get rid of the committee entirely and have everything determined by wins and losses like literally every other sport?
EDIT: Since you all lack basic critical thinking, I have to clarify I mean strength of record. Ofc Army shouldn’t be 2 dummies
That would heavily incentivize making the easiest schedules with as many cupcakes as possible.
But not all wins and losses are equal
money talks .
This would be by far the worst solution. You'd have tons of really crappy teams who made the playoffs just by scheduling opponents not even in their division. The big teams like Alabama would avoid scheduling any kind of a challenge, which would basically mean the only regular season game that matters is the conference championship.
bud this is why you don't make the rules.
I don’t understand what’s so hard to understand, it’s all pretty obvious in how this works.
Exactly
And the bracket means literally nothing, ESPN is making it for no reason. No ones making them make a fake bracket lmao, just show the rankings.
Tennessee not in the dance feels criminal
As a UGA fan I can't agree enough... The Vols would DESTROY Penn State, Indiana, Notre Dame, Miami... This is an insane bracket
Just wait until A&M beats Texas and they somehow justify putting Texas in over TN. It’s all about bias and brand names. I hate TN but they deserve to be in. One of the best defenses in the country and great run game
@@DennisFeinsteinCEOyet ND beat Texas A&M and those guys are going through a lot of the SEC. Being in the SEC doesn’t magically make their teams better.
@@Ceece20 And? A&M isn't a good team, by a LONG shot. They've had the weakest SEC schedule and good molly-whopped by SC??? Beating A&M isn't a quality win.
they have lossed twice!!!!! should of won
They tried to fix post-season championships from voting, only to make a bracket that has to be voted on... wtf was the point of changing it? 😂
Another year of Notre dame playing absolutely no one and will get obliterated by any real competition they face in the playoff
We played 3 ranked tames at the point they played
They get by name alone. They lost to a terrible team, played a couple mid teams (A&M and Louisville), and played a group of weak teams... anyone else with this schedule would not be under consideration.
Don't blame Notre Dame for going into TAMU and beating them by double digits. And why single out Notre Dame? Who has Texas beat? Who has Penn State beat? When is Indiana going to play a ranked team? And when they finally get around to doing it, will it matter when they lose? This is not a "Notre Dame problem".
Besides the bad loss has Notre Dame smoked most of the other teams in the schedule yes. Isn't that what a good does
@@John_Hoover because Notre dame is the most mediocre of them all . If any teams doesn’t deserve to be on this list it’s them , every year they are given a spot or ranking and every year they play someone like bama or UGA or Texas or Ohio state and get blown out the water
I don’t trust McAfee with antivirus, much less football
It should have ZERO to do with a conference, it should have everything to do with the 12 BEST teams. Not most deserving, best eye test, or other subjective metric.
Isn’t “best” a subjective metric? What are you basing “best” on?
@@dariuswilliams3206 not at all, do not use any ranking data, just wins losses, opponents wins losses, yards and points for off and def, and maybe turnover margin. Then you can use data for all 134 teams and get a real metric with no bias or rankings, just in the field game data
@@SurferRC wouldn’t that encourage teams to run up the score in 4th quarter blowouts? Especially against their weaker competition.
@ maybe some but unlikely since most teams struggle to just win every week.
Glad we have a committee, instead of computers and a playoffs so we don’t have fighting over rankings because back in the old days in was no stop bickering /s
Once the field was increased to 12 all teams not in the top 12 can go home and deal with it. I don't care who you played or if you would make a better match up. if you lost 2 or more games get out.
So Army and SEC should have same expectations regarding schedule? Lmao
If that is the final bracket, you heard it here first, UGA vs Ohio States in the CFP final.
That fact that it needs that much explaining each week shows how bad of a system is
The playoffs are fine people are gonna complain no matter what yall clearly forgot when College ball didn’t have a playoffs and the committee picked the 2 Championship Teams
The committee at 4 teams “the acc and b12 will be lucky to get one team in the playoff each year.”
The committee at 12 teams, a 300% increase, “the acc and b12 will be lucky to get one team in the playoff each year.” 😂😂🤦🏼♂️😢😢
Cause sec (espn) and big 10 (Fox) bring in the tv money, and we all know how espn has mangled CFB playoff (ie putting in bama over 12-0 fsu)
It's so stupid. Clemson Miami and Smu are good enough to play in it. They SHOULD get 2 of those. Taking 5-6 sec teams is stupid. They get rewarded for losing 3 games to each other.
@@jimjason5146 SMU? are you kidding me they beat up bums all year. Clemson lost to Georgia and LOUISVILLE they shouldn't be in the cfp. Miami beat the university of cal by 1 and lost to GT 😂
The ACC & Big 12 HAVE to get at least one team in
Don’t you understand how this works
@@Julio_Jones smu played a tougher schedule than indiana oregon and texas tbh
Indiana scares me. We've also lost our RT, LT and Center for the season 😭
love that this year its all of a sudden "making your conference championship matters" but the Georgia team who did that last year was left out due to "reasons". how can we take this committee seriously?
Well there was only 4 spots and they lost so how would they have gotten in
I'm in no way defending the committee, but this is what the conferences agreed to... How much blame do they deserve?
Well there was only 4 spots last year vs. 12 this year...do the math.
Georgia was the best team all season last year and lost by 3 points. Texas should not have made it in. Georgia would have won the whole thing again. They would have been finally healthy.
@@HH-ez6qcif they were the best team then they shouldn’t have lost to Bama. It’s really simple. Yall just don’t like it.
I said this years ago back in 2000-2006. If D1 would have adopted D2's system they'd have made more money let alone would have been able to make lower level schools have more noteable. I'm finally liking this. But they should do what D2 does on Regions. Not top so many
SEC ain’t scared of anyone especially lil 10 teams. Oregon and OSU are elite after that the drop off is a cliff
Don’t see why the playoff committee should predict conference championships. Their role is to rank the top 12 teams or 25 and at the end of the season after the championship games are played. It’ll be clear. It’s always been that way. And if you’re the champion more than likely, you’re gonna be ranked higher than anybody else in the conference.
The committee doesn't predict the champions. ESPN does that to show what the potential bracket would look like and give themselves something to discuss between now and Saturday.
What i wonder is how college football fans outside of the SEC arent outraged by how sec football is flipping amazing every weekend, but their team is playing boring games almost every week. Almost can forget their is college football outside the SEC
Big 10 is 1,2,4,5. Soooo
"their is" = mouth breather from the south
Yeah, watching Bama vs Mercer this weekend was like a shot of adrenaline
This is a TV show. They are trying to get eye balls, people talking about the playoff with a passion and this is the first year they have done this. My biggest issue is everyone should have to join a conference, you have to play a certain level of competition a power 5 level team (ex: Alabama playing mercer NOPE), and have a conference championship game which brings in more money. So they will realize how money they are making and will expand the playoff to 16 and no one should have a gripe they didn't get in. Also to add Notre Dame should be a 12 seed. They have the worst loss out of all 12 teams a mac school at home.
Listen when 2 teams outside of top 12 gets in instead of 2 higher ranked teams the system is wrong. ACC and Big12 should not get a bye, throw the auto bids out and rank the 1-12 best teams
No. What’s the point of conference championships then? Your proposed format would ultimately devalue regular season games. If you’re in the SEC then win your championship and you have nothing to complain about. Even then, if the SEC is sooo much better, then prove it on the field. Who cares if a team like Miami gets a bye they earned it, the better team will prevail on the field. You shouldn’t be rewarded for a “quality loss”
God I hate sec shills. Teams like LSU and Florida have been getting dogged by top teams outside of the conference, and even mid tier ones (USC, for starters)
@@J311yStain LOL its funny listening to your logic, I am NOT a SEC person and have been tired of it for years of complaining BUT as a Buckeye fan and CF fan I want the best teams in. If my guys lose Saturday they should not be in because our conference is down accept for the top teams. You must be a ACC or Big12 guy to get all heated from a RUclips post. Wow relax it is just a game
But how do you determine the best 12,?
SOS is a bad argument- Michigan won the natty with the 50th SOS
How do you even accurately determine SOS when teams play less than half of their conference opponents??
@@J311yStain Either way we all have different opinions, either way this should be a fun year. Good luck with your team and God bless
@@tylerjerabek5204 50 SOS is not bad especially when undefeated like Michigan. Also Michigan beat top teams as well. That was a no brainer.
A lot of issues with the CFP Selection process but can’t deny it’s exciting.
House Divided here - allegiance to two Teams (One SEC, One Big Ten) - hope they both get in and somehow meet in a Playoff game…if they play the first round game near me - I’m there!
17:43 "Just come up North in December. We're gonna punch you in the mouth in December and see how that goes!" Sooooo the Big Ten's argument is if we have enough inclement weather we can at least make SEC teams uncomfortable? You STILL can't beat the SEC! Alabama went all the way up to Wisconsin to play in September. They won 42-10 in Wisconsin! The FACTS are always the same. The Big Ten has one or two teams that can compete. The SEC has 8!
This is ridiculous South Carolina has a better strength of schedule and beat number 10 Texas A&M pretty good and by 20 points and just beat number 23 Missouri and barely lost to Alabama.Who has indiana beat.South Carolina should get in at number 12 spot.South Carolina has about the Second or third ranked defense in the country.
I love it! Even with 12 we're still talking, records, strength of schedule, conference strength..everything but the cost of a hotdog!