F-22 vs. Su 35 - Which Fighter Jet will Win the Battle?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
  • The Su-35 Flanker E vs The F-22 Raptors. Which is a better fighter jet?. When we pitted the F-22 against Russia’s universally extolled aircraft the Su-35. The conclusion we came to is that the planes are so different in design and capabilities that they are difficult to compare. The F-22 is a different beast altogether, though, and a machine that is largely seen as the ideal foe for the Su-35. The Su-35 is at least equal if not superior to the very best Western fourth-generation fighters.
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  • @sam9son
    @sam9son Год назад +30

    Hmmm, shouldn't be F-15EX vs Su-35 makes more sense.

    • @GegeDxD
      @GegeDxD 3 месяца назад

      Yes, you used to talk the same way for the F117 too. You remember? Then Serbs happened to them. Hit two and even downed one with a 50 year old AA system. SU-35 would eat the American 5th generation and you would be surprised, believe me. Why didn't they send them to Ukraine, if so?

    • @dougiequick1
      @dougiequick1 Месяц назад

      @@GegeDxD Politics is the only reason I can think of. Trying so hard to avoid escalation of tension avoid the pissing contest. Sometimes it is better to let the lesser dog growl and huff instead of putting it down....two words "long game"

    • @Armonia2810
      @Armonia2810 Месяц назад

      no f-15 have not thrust vectoring neither stelth technology. have not the aviation abilities to fight an SU-35... maybe an SU-30/34 or 27

    • @Kevlar67476
      @Kevlar67476 Месяц назад

      SU35 is overrated

    • @Armonia2810
      @Armonia2810 Месяц назад

      @@Kevlar67476 in what capacity, and with what evidence do you say that? it probably bothers you that the Russians have better aeronautical engineers than the Americans... but unfortunately it's true. if it's any consolation this rafale is a plane capable of dealing with the SU-35

  • @kaijenkins4513
    @kaijenkins4513 Год назад +92

    Ah yes, the SU-35, the plane that would crush all western 5th Gen stealth and 4++ Gen advanced fighter’s because it can do backflips in an airshow.

    • @Milvus_In_Excelsis
      @Milvus_In_Excelsis Год назад +6

      @Bitter Truth uit know that Meveriick was flying jets that are not even in service right?

    • @seanhunt138
      @seanhunt138 Год назад +11

      Su 35 is a cheap knock off of the f16. It is a weak shadow of the mighty mig 25.

    • @ste9856
      @ste9856 Год назад +5

      @@seanhunt138 😂😂

    • @mythoughts5615
      @mythoughts5615 Год назад +3

      Fun fact - the SU-27 is the only Russian fighter aircraft with a positive ata kill ratio.

    • @hannhabb6009
      @hannhabb6009 Год назад +10

      The price 10 units of SU equal to 1 unit F-22 raptor. SU-35 more cheaper than F-22 Raptor. If F-22 raptor can kill one SU-35, SU still have 9 more balance to kill. So what is your opinion.....?

  • @truth959
    @truth959 Год назад +19

    The upgraded Su35 has an AESA radar, Not Irbis-E.

    • @fighterjet1651
      @fighterjet1651 4 месяца назад

      It doesn't. Su-35S is the final version with Irbis-E PESA radar.

    • @truth959
      @truth959 4 месяца назад

      @@fighterjet1651 I'm afraid you are extremely uninformed

    • @fighterjet1651
      @fighterjet1651 4 месяца назад

      @@truth959 Fell free to inform me then, because Im not aware of any AESA radar update ever being mentioned with the Su-35S :)

    • @truth959
      @truth959 4 месяца назад +1

      @@fighterjet1651 I know you're not aware. That's why I told you are uninformed, lol 😄

    • @fighterjet1651
      @fighterjet1651 4 месяца назад

      Great, thats why I told you to inform me, preferaby with a link to a source that supports your claim.

  • @matthewhuszarik4173
    @matthewhuszarik4173 Год назад +23

    The SU-35 is dead before he ever sees the F-22.

    • @saucy743
      @saucy743 11 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah and Zelensky will be the F-22 pilot, eh?

  • @mythoughts5615
    @mythoughts5615 Год назад +42

    Going against the F-22 is like Stevie Wonder fighting Mike Tyson. Stevie would be out cold without even knowing Tyson was in the ring

    • @Michael.Chapman
      @Michael.Chapman Год назад +8

      Yes, but only according to US sales propaganda relating to the supposed integrated electronic battlefield. It also helps if one jet can fly rings around the other, because, as we all know, our electronics are subject to faults and flaws from multiple causes--from simple severe weather to solar storms and other infrastructure issues beyond our control.

    • @kevinmyers440
      @kevinmyers440 Год назад +2

      @@Michael.Chapmanyeah and the Russian propaganda gets ignored right? Lol

    • @Michael.Chapman
      @Michael.Chapman Год назад

      @@kevinmyers440 Instead of propaganda, consider raw performance objective data, such as world record holding climb rates to 60,000 feet eg: the beautiful but elderly Su-27: 59,000 fpm v modern F-35: 45,000 fpm or modern Su-57: 71,000 fpm v the proud F-22 'Raptor': 62,000 fpm. Thrust vectoring also plays a significant role: eastern fighters have long used 3-dimensional thrust vectoring which permits mind-blowing super-maneuvering... Why did the Skunk Works only incorporate simple 2-D vectoring into the F-22? The price was already prohibitive, I suppose. The F-22 is capable of superb pull-ups in 2 dimensions, but we see no true super-maneuverability in the modern sense. Am unsure if it can pull a technically correct, fully complete Pugachev's Cobra, first demonstrated sensationally to the public by Viktor Pugachev flying an Su-27 way back in the day, at the 1989 Paris Airshow.
      Lastly, I will never forget respected Australian Military Analysts stating at the time when we Aussies purchased a big load of F-35 aircraft from our allies, the USA: "This purchase will hobble the Royal Australian Air Force for the next 50 years"... down here we live surrounded by supposedly hostile countries who all use aircraft that fly in a superior manner to the F-35. Despite any perceived electronic battlefield capabilities, the playing field is heavily biased against the little F-35 "Lightning'.

    • @strangevideos3048
      @strangevideos3048 11 месяцев назад

      My brain washed friend, no one wants the F22 plane and that plane is sitting in the hangar because it is too expensive to maintain and useless against long-range Russian missiles. But since you are brainwashed, we will forgive you.

    • @maigepresents5840
      @maigepresents5840 11 месяцев назад +8

      Except the only thing the F22 has ever actually shot down is a hot air balloon...

  • @keeplookingup911
    @keeplookingup911 Год назад +10

    F22 is the deadliest fighter jet. No Russian fighter jets can compete with it

    • @doofygilmore-Z
      @doofygilmore-Z 6 месяцев назад

      Да вы что.Ф22 даже Су 30МКИ не ровня.

    • @BaghdadSon78
      @BaghdadSon78 Месяц назад

      Keep dreaming

  • @kadendookie178
    @kadendookie178 Год назад +41

    This isn't even a comparison. This is overkill

    • @iossysm
      @iossysm Год назад

      it's actually stupid..

    • @TheRealBillBob
      @TheRealBillBob Год назад +5

      Change the channel's name from Military TV to Clown Tv.

    • @aurora-cj6ui
      @aurora-cj6ui Год назад

      @@TheRealBillBob BS TV is another alternative

    • @PeterToth-u9u
      @PeterToth-u9u 2 месяца назад

      SU-30SM2 overkill F-22 yes

    • @MiG-31893
      @MiG-31893 17 дней назад

      @@PeterToth-u9uSu-30?
      Ok. Let’s do some math. F-22s minimum RCS is 0.0001, or the size of a fly. If Su-30 could see F-22, it would also see all the other flies and its radar would never lock F-22, and forget the heat-seeker as F-22 has already spotted you before you can get in heat-seeker range, and fired AIM-120 at you. There isn’t any was to evade AIM-120s.
      The only scenario where Su-30 would have a chance is if they started off next to each other. But when does that ever happen?

  • @Jo-the-fixer
    @Jo-the-fixer Год назад +6

    This dude. I could handle the title but he's showing pics of the su-57 saying it's the 35. I guess they let just anyone upload these days. Sky daddy please help us

  • @ariebroek2404
    @ariebroek2404 Год назад +24

    SU35 won’t know what hit him….didn’t see it coming

    • @chris-hg3iv
      @chris-hg3iv Год назад

      Send them to Ukraine please🤡🤣

    • @aurora-cj6ui
      @aurora-cj6ui Год назад +5

      google: Su-35 kill-shot F22 Syria

    • @elohssvjeon1752
      @elohssvjeon1752 Год назад +1

      ​@@chris-hg3iv radar won't even know what fighter jet hit them

    • @dominicbrunsmeier
      @dominicbrunsmeier Год назад +6

      ​@@elohssvjeon1752 em, Sukhoi su-35 could detect incoming f22 from at least 120 miles, f22's stealth characteristics is massively overstated. F22 is bad by design. And if f22 turns on his radar-well, it's not a stealth anymore.

    • @Mr.Cool628
      @Mr.Cool628 Год назад +4

      @@dominicbrunsmeier you have 0 understanding about jets i will let others exlpain to you

  • @zblip22
    @zblip22 Год назад +12

    F22 wins in a dual. It is obviously more modern. But there are other factors at play. The first one being that "duels" rarely occur as planes usually attack in formations. The su-35 is ten times less expensive to build, and training the pilots is far shorter. What this means is that in the event of a conflict you'd have far more su-35 flying everywhere. The f-22 has a limited number of onboard missiles and once he fires he blows his stealth cover. Things get more equal when you think that having more su-35 in the sky and the Su-35 being a better dogfighting plane we could emagine that Russia would adopt strategies taking advantage of this. One being having squadrons flying at distance from one another and trapping the f-22 into engaging in close dogfighting therefore getting back the advantage. In Hockey there are two kinds of forwards. There are the ones with a great shot and skills that can shoot from afar, and there are other grittier players who can play in dangerous traffic closer to the net. Both are lethal, one pays a heavier price, as more prone to get injured. When your team has only superstars that are afraid of getting injured you can not win the championship. A team consisting of many grittier players will win on the long run. The f-22 is a "show" plane. An actual war will be won by f-16, f-35 (used as a stealth bomber exclusively), and f-18 Super Hornet as a dual purpose fighter/strike bomber. One area often overlooked is the use of kamikaze drones, intelligent missiles, suprasonic missiles, and unmanned drone bombers/fighter jets. We have cars which can drive by themselves and we have computers playing chess.. soon we will have unmanned war planes outperforming human pilots and will not care to "die" in the process.. these technologies already exist but are kept behind closed doors. When you have a joker in your hand of cards you don't show it around... That is why the U.S. isn't producing anymore f-22… they know that the real stuff is elsewhere.. The Russians know all of this btw.. China are also developing next level stuff which we don't know about..

    • @СерхиоБускетс-ф7я
      @СерхиоБускетс-ф7я Год назад +5

      I will disappoint you, but the SU-35 is better than any US aircraft. RCS F22 according to our measurements is 0.1-0.5 (depending on the angle of exposure), the Su 35 radar sees the raptors at a distance of 180-250 km and can attack at an angle of even 90 degrees (the raptor cannot do this), the Su 35 uses missiles with a range 300 kilometers or can transmit information to ground air defense. Also, the Su 35 sees the raptor in the infrared range at a distance of 100 kilometers, the raptors do not even have optical detection systems.

    • @borismissiuna6422
      @borismissiuna6422 Год назад

      @@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я The Bible teaches us that Russia will win in Ukraine. ( Daniel Chapter 7 verse 5 Russia is the "Bear") The war will be expanded and more countries will be destroyed. That means a direct conflict with NATO with no proxies.
      Russia defeats NATO and we find in Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 the Gog/Magog war Russia's Allies which include Iran, Iraq, Syria, Turkey and also Germany.
      This logically means that after NATO is defeated Germany and Turkey align with Russia and therefore NATO is dissolved and the USA is evicted from Germany. This is the future and is what the Bible instructs us.
      Stealth is now old tech. The Americans have admitted that low level radar can now see stealth. There was an American general that was astonished and asked the British radar tech how he could see and track the stealth plane as it's radar signature was the size of a pigeon. He replied that pigeons do not fly over 250 mph. Veteran radar operators are now seeing stealth. This is a normal development and usually your tech advantage has a limited shelf life.
      The BVR arguement was used by the Americans in Vietnam. The Mark 1 F4 phantom did not have a gun and the Americans were forced to install a belly gun strapped onto a weapon hard point. Later F4s had the gun incorporated into the design. The Americans lost many many pilots to the Mig. Only 16% of missiles fired by the F4 found their target and the American pilots found that they were forced into dog fights because they needed to be able to identify friend or foe when multiple targets were present.
      The kill ratio was so lopsided in favour of the Russian Migs that the Americans were forced to create an air to air combat school called "Top Gun" made famous by Hollywood staring Tom Cruise as Maverick. I believe this scenario will be repeated but the difference is that this time the USA will not have the time to leap frog pass the Russians in tech.
      If you neutralize the stealth with an updated radar in the Russian fighters and also their AWACS then the Russian SU 57 will feature a plane that is twice as fast, double the range, has a much higher ceiling and will be much more maneuverable in a dog fight than anything the USA have in their current fleet. The American pilots have been instructed to do BVR fights only but I see a disaster coming for the USA and Maverick will not save them.

    • @galaxymess
      @galaxymess 9 месяцев назад

      @@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я You don't know what you are talking about. Wars are won by money and by numbers. During WW2, USA built 500-600 bombers in a month. USA can produce hundreds of F-35 whereas Russia can not even make ten SU-57 or SU-75. You can not beat hundred F-35 with ten SU-57.

    • @СерхиоБускетс-ф7я
      @СерхиоБускетс-ф7я 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@galaxymess During the Second World War, the USSR created 70 thousand tanks. In heavy battles, there were 250 artillery pieces for every kilometer of the front.
      You said correctly that numbers and the size of the army win. The USA now doesn’t even have shells for artillery, US gave last 70 thousand for Ukraine and then sent these shells from Ukraine to Israel. Haha, disaster.
      That's why they gave Ukraine cluster bombs.
      The US and NATO arsenals are now almost empty. Nowadays, North Korea produces 1.5 million 155 mm shells per year, which is more than the United States and NATO each year. Russians produce more than North Korea.
      In Russia, since 2022, the production of drones has increased by 20 times, tanks by 3-4 times, airplanes and helicopters by 2-3 times, shells 10 times. Russia now has an army of about a million people which has the best combat experience right now.
      There are also millions of bombs in Russian warehouses, which are now being converted into glide munitions. Thousands of tanks have been in storage since USSR times.
      And if you compare the quality of weapons, then the weapons of the USA and NATO are no good.
      For example, artillery quickly loses accuracy due to the fact that the barrel is deformed. While the Russian artillery works as at the beginning of the war.
      You have not yet realized that the USA and NATO are now without pants. When the Russians come, it will be a quick end. And you haven't seen our bombs with a damage radius of 100 meters yet.

    • @jancecd8466
      @jancecd8466 4 месяца назад

      @@СерхиоБускетс-ф7яkeep dreaming that paper tiger dog shit ain’t nothing compared to us fighter . They like china j16 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @arsenijearsen3041
    @arsenijearsen3041 Год назад +3

    I choose Su35 any time.

  • @meejinhuang
    @meejinhuang Год назад +9

    It's not even close. One F22 will shoot down 6 Su 35s and fly home untouched.

    • @borismissiuna6422
      @borismissiuna6422 Год назад

      The Bible teaches us that Russia will win in Ukraine. ( Daniel Chapter 7 verse 5 Russia is the "Bear") The war will be expanded and more countries will be destroyed. That means a direct conflict with NATO with no proxies.
      Russia defeats NATO and we find in Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 the Gog/Magog war Russia's Allies which include Iran, Iraq, Syria, Turkey and also Germany.
      This logically means that after NATO is defeated Germany and Turkey align with Russia and therefore NATO is dissolved and the USA is evicted from Germany. This is the future and is what the Bible instructs us.
      Stealth is now old tech. The Americans have admitted that low level radar can now see stealth. There was an American general that was astonished and asked the British radar tech how he could see and track the stealth plane as it's radar signature was the size of a pigeon. He replied that pigeons do not fly over 250 mph. Veteran radar operators are now seeing stealth. This is a normal development and usually your tech advantage has a limited shelf life.
      The BVR arguement was used by the Americans in Vietnam. The Mark 1 F4 phantom did not have a gun and the Americans were forced to install a belly gun strapped onto a weapon hard point. Later F4s had the gun incorporated into the design. The Americans lost many many pilots to the Mig. Only 16% of missiles fired by the F4 found their target and the American pilots found that they were forced into dog fights because they needed to be able to identify friend or foe when multiple targets were present.
      The kill ratio was so lopsided in favour of the Russian Migs that the Americans were forced to create an air to air combat school called "Top Gun" made famous by Hollywood staring Tom Cruise as Maverick. I believe this scenario will be repeated but the difference is that this time the USA will not have the time to leap frog pass the Russians in tech.
      If you neutralize the stealth with an updated radar in the Russian fighters and also their AWACS then the Russian SU 57 will feature a plane that is twice as fast, double the range, has a much higher ceiling and will be much more maneuverable in a dog fight than anything the USA have in their current fleet. The American pilots have been instructed to do BVR fights only but I see a disaster coming for the USA and Maverick will not save them.

    • @maigepresents5840
      @maigepresents5840 11 месяцев назад +7

      The only thing the f22 has ever shot down is a balloon...

    • @borismissiuna6422
      @borismissiuna6422 11 месяцев назад

      @@maigepresents5840 That is the official count there may have been clandestine encounters that neither side admits to, which is rather common.

    • @saucy743
      @saucy743 11 месяцев назад +1

      Lol, yeah sure, maybe in a world where Hitler was a just a fancy everyone-loving jew.

    • @doofygilmore-Z
      @doofygilmore-Z 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@maigepresents5840😂😂😂😂

  • @GoRannization
    @GoRannization 9 месяцев назад +1

    Su-35 has real combat success, F-22 went out garage couple times for fresh air. Can't claim F-22 is better or worse then Sukhoi.

  • @LetsGo-wl5zo
    @LetsGo-wl5zo Год назад +5

    5th gen vs 4th gen Fighters.. No brainer who will win in the most of the (long distance) fights.

    • @Ben-jr6vl
      @Ben-jr6vl Год назад +3

      depends on which jet has the better radar and missiles

  • @allfricinternational2672
    @allfricinternational2672 4 месяца назад +1

    We shall talk about it when they face each other in real war but not computer games.

  • @maigepresents5840
    @maigepresents5840 11 месяцев назад +4

    Oh wow! A jet that has zero Air to Air kills (im not counting hit air balloons) against a jet that has -10 kill to loss ratio... this'll be interesting...

    • @JamesAlexander-f1y
      @JamesAlexander-f1y 2 месяца назад +1

      😅 the f22 has flew combat mission's. Don't let the balloon BS fool you.

    • @maigepresents5840
      @maigepresents5840 2 месяца назад

      @@JamesAlexander-f1y combat missions... zero kills...

  • @cletusnze4171
    @cletusnze4171 Год назад +1

    Where are you getting all this data? As far as I know, the precise capabilities of the Su-35 at least are classified. Are you just making stuff up?

  • @djordjelezajic8435
    @djordjelezajic8435 Год назад +3

    This is not WWI ,Jack,Red Baron vs. Whoever,somewhere over Belgium.All I need to know is 2 things: How far can the radar acquire the opponent,and what is the maximum range of air to air missiles ?Whoever has the edge in these two categories should win most of the time.

    • @maigepresents5840
      @maigepresents5840 11 месяцев назад

      And considering neither of these platforms have ever seen actual combat we'll never know...

    • @maigepresents5840
      @maigepresents5840 11 месяцев назад +1

      The Russians have the range, their R-77 missile, the US theoretically has better radar...

  • @mikeghimself
    @mikeghimself Год назад +3

    I think the real question is..
    "Can Ukrainian tractors tow the SU-35"?

    • @JakeHemm1122
      @JakeHemm1122 Год назад +1

      Ukrainian farmers making the worlds first flying tractor running on shit gathered from the tears of Russian fodder, and with the best agility first in its kind, and the kids get to practice target practice with flying 3000 pound flying telephone poles going at Mach 2.7
      I’d say the farmers conquer Russia before it’s time for cow milking

    • @hellgates_javed6451
      @hellgates_javed6451 Год назад

      The actual real question is..
      Will ukraine strike polish farmers again and throw it in russia

  • @mou5007
    @mou5007 Год назад +4

    F22 a gagné contre les ballons chinois jamais allez en guerre le reste c'est de commentaires

  • @mygame5347
    @mygame5347 Год назад +1

    2:15 " So far, only China showed the money for SU35 ".....
    Are you trying to looks like don't know about American CAATSA to counter the country who try to buy Russian fighter jets, like always??......
    Actually, there are alot of countries around the world who want to buy Russian Fightjets especially SU35.... But US has a bad boy strategy to counter the countries who want to buy Russian fighter jets, don't you??....

  • @mark261166
    @mark261166 Год назад +1

    Loved the video, thanks for posting.

  • @nasirazizaki
    @nasirazizaki 5 месяцев назад

    The very moment F-22 managed to detec the presence of su35....it's also the same moment the F-22 pilot end it's own jet existence.

  • @lucasmonteiro5938
    @lucasmonteiro5938 Год назад +6

    wrong title, f-22 vs su-35

  • @AkashBagFEce
    @AkashBagFEce Год назад +3

    India used to short down f-16 using old mig21... Now if su-35 destroys f-22, it's not very much amazing... America makes planes expensive, advartise them very much, but they are less capable and high mentainence just

    • @TDS1108Gaming
      @TDS1108Gaming 5 месяцев назад +1

      I see all you do on this channel is lazily mock US aviation with false stats. You also make arbitrary claims without evidence, so your point of view is heavily flawed comparing the Su-35 and F-22. The F-22 is an air superiority fighter, but still capable of delivering guided munitions just the same way as the Su-35.
      You additionally have no reputable source regarding the presumed Indian shoot down of the Pakistani F-16s. Also, all combat statistics show that the MiG-21 has an abysmal combat record, resulting in a < 50% success rate for all MiG-21s, and the Indian Air Force alone has killed more of its own pilots and it’s own civilians in accidents than actual combat kills.. so congratulations on being better at destroying yourselves than anything else.

    • @AkashBagFEce
      @AkashBagFEce 5 месяцев назад

      @@TDS1108Gaming think about it! A 2nd generation aircraft, which causes damage cevelian, became the reason of death own pilots can destroy fancy f-16... Can you imagine that?🤣🤣🤣 And India had shown the proof of f-16 in media... If you have any doubt, you can checkout that online... You can't deny that mig-21 is a falcon destroyer and f-22 is nothing but a belloon killer... 😉

    • @USA__2023
      @USA__2023 4 месяца назад

      Russian jets are more expensive to operate in the long run. That is one of the reasons Russia lost sales of their fighter jets.

  • @paulmurray8922
    @paulmurray8922 Год назад +10

    Would have been more realistic comparing to a F-15 or even a Gripen but no, not the F-22. They don't inhabit even remotely comparable spheres.

    • @ilyabartenev
      @ilyabartenev 4 месяца назад

      Funny, but F-15 is a lot worse by all characteristics than SU-35

    • @paulmurray8922
      @paulmurray8922 4 месяца назад

      @@ilyabartenev It's too early to be cracking such jokes, even from one who swallows Russian "creative" specs whole. For example, research the SU-35's vaunted Irbis-E radar.

  • @is_42
    @is_42 Год назад +12

    Would Sukhoi Su-57 not be a better comparison?

    • @RoyalDart101
      @RoyalDart101 Год назад +9

      Not even. F-22 is too far ahead.

    • @sam9son
      @sam9son Год назад +2

      Yes & No, because Su-57 technically is still not a stealth aircraft compared to F-22, F-35 & J-20.

    • @mastermariner490
      @mastermariner490 Год назад +4

      12 prototypes is hardly valid

    • @reza221282
      @reza221282 Год назад +3

      f-22 only use to destroy balloon, it's a joke to Su-57 🤣

    • @mastermariner490
      @mastermariner490 Год назад +3

      @@reza221282 You be glad it wasnt used for destroying anything else,you will cry alot then

  • @SeeDeeSea
    @SeeDeeSea Год назад +1

    It's not much good the F-22 escorting a heavy bomber away from Alaska with two SU-35s in tow then.

  • @mikes.4136
    @mikes.4136 Год назад +7

    This is a very comprehensive and well composed comparison.

  • @masterchinese28
    @masterchinese28 Год назад +10

    One other factor that favors the F-22: maintenance. Even prior to the war, it was common knowledge that Russians built fancy hardware and then did little upkeep. The war so far has proven this point and we have to wonder how many of these Su-35 could even be ready to launch at any given moment.

  • @theprotagonist8755
    @theprotagonist8755 Год назад +6

    Is this a joke

    • @moesab1281
      @moesab1281 6 месяцев назад

      Why would it be a joke?

  • @SeeDeeSea
    @SeeDeeSea Год назад +1

    Precision guided missiles were employed by the now defunct RAF Tornado. It took off from Cyprus and hit its targets against ISIS within an accuracy of one metre from 300 miles away.

  • @Donkeymaster9000
    @Donkeymaster9000 Год назад +1

    You can’t make a versus video without clearly stating who is better

  • @suvadcicak6072
    @suvadcicak6072 Год назад +1

    Why don't you confront them in reality to see who would win. Otherwise this is pointless speculation based on emotional bias.

  • @mia1shooter
    @mia1shooter Год назад +2

    A F-15 will easily splash this...a F-22 will splash a su57

  • @matthewdeancole
    @matthewdeancole 11 месяцев назад +1

    In a dogfight, the Su-35 would have the advantage. However, the F-22 would likely have the advantage of stealth from a distance and the element of surprise.

    • @salahben8410
      @salahben8410 11 месяцев назад +3

      Su 30 detect the shit of f35 before f35 detect the su30 you american are good just in fake realty 😂

    • @mraviatorboii2510
      @mraviatorboii2510 11 месяцев назад

      @@salahben8410WRONG 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @MrShenron89
      @MrShenron89 9 месяцев назад

      @@salahben8410 Russian propaganda clearly worked on you 😂😂😂

    • @jancecd8466
      @jancecd8466 4 месяца назад

      @@salahben8410keep dreaming delulu Russian paper tigers

  • @mosnicolae1678
    @mosnicolae1678 Год назад +10

    Q: What does the Su35 pilot see in the rear mirror?
    A: The F-22 pilot showing him the finger!

    • @zambotv8150
      @zambotv8150 Год назад +1

      That's cause the F 22 can't keep up with the Su

    • @mosnicolae1678
      @mosnicolae1678 Год назад

      @@zambotv8150 it doesn't need to. It's stealthy.

    • @zambotv8150
      @zambotv8150 Год назад

      @@mosnicolae1678 Why aren't they going to Ukraine?

    • @mosnicolae1678
      @mosnicolae1678 Год назад +1

      @@zambotv8150 because of US export policy. Only US can have F22s.

    • @zambotv8150
      @zambotv8150 Год назад

      @@mosnicolae1678 No one else wanted to buy them, they're shit

  • @Desire123ification
    @Desire123ification Год назад +15

    The F 22 would win a duel hands down.

  • @Villain1874
    @Villain1874 Год назад +10

    No contest at all F-22 would absolutely mock then down the SU 35

  • @LS-ot6vd
    @LS-ot6vd 5 месяцев назад

    There's a good reason why one plane is considerably more expensive than the other. And there's a good reason why one of them is not for sale. Parading the Russian jet as a valid competitor is no different to Putin parading around naked on horseback. It's all for show.

  • @americanoutside
    @americanoutside Год назад +1

    Couldn't some type of particles be exploded in the Air of a potential combat arena that makes it easier to spot planes flying through it? So that could loiter, or even stick to air chassis? 🤔

  • @whitebeauty759
    @whitebeauty759 Год назад +7

    Comparing a 5th stealth fighter vs a 4th non stealth fighter is no real match. The F35 will always win, even one F35 vs 3, 4 or even 5 Su35's. But if thesey fighterjets are flying in the skies above Moskou soon, we will all know for sure.

    • @eagle_orstkho
      @eagle_orstkho Год назад +3

      I recently red that USA resume production of of F15 due to its more effectiveness. I think those 5th gen fighters are very noisy

    • @whitebeauty759
      @whitebeauty759 Год назад +1

      @@eagle_orstkho But isn't it always a bit noisy on the battlefield? And doesn't the modern soldier wear earprotection?

    • @eagle_orstkho
      @eagle_orstkho Год назад +1

      @@whitebeauty759 i mean noise in the meaning of capricious

    • @kaijenkins4513
      @kaijenkins4513 Год назад +1

      @@eagle_orstkho ​ Thats not true, the main reason the U.S. is acquiring the F-15EX is the slow production rate of the F-35, not because the F-15 is better or more effective. Though it is a bonus that the F-15 can carry larger weapons.

    • @eagle_orstkho
      @eagle_orstkho Год назад

      @@kaijenkins4513 i think its all about capricious exploitation of those 5th gen jets

  • @elozinoemeovrode9779
    @elozinoemeovrode9779 Год назад +2

    There is nothing like stealth

  • @unclebuzz6913
    @unclebuzz6913 Год назад +2

    Can't You Get Your F's Right...
    Sad....

  • @HideeyeeL
    @HideeyeeL Год назад +1

    Hello EverOne!

  • @amazonbistro5123
    @amazonbistro5123 9 месяцев назад

    You did forget to mention the empty weight of both planes...
    Like the Abraham's in Ukraine, heavyweight, clumsy, slow, no chance in a dog fight against the SU35. Today everything occurs lightning fast, elephants are dying.

  • @skyrider6772
    @skyrider6772 Год назад +14

    If if comes to dogfight Su-35 has big advantage of thrust vectoring in all axles.

    • @classicgalactica5879
      @classicgalactica5879 Год назад +6

      Baloney.

    • @jamescrouchet1283
      @jamescrouchet1283 Год назад

      When fighting hand-to-hand a knife is a much better weapon than a rifle but the guy with the rifle will never let the guy with the knife get close so it doesn't matter. F22 doesn't dogfight, it's invisible until it kills from a distance.

  • @BrasilianZombie
    @BrasilianZombie Год назад +1

    Historicly US planes have autmatched russian planes??? When did you guys start to write history? Your history must start after Vietnam.

  • @jaydawg-we6yc
    @jaydawg-we6yc Год назад

    You don't talk about the particle beam technology used on the latest F-22 and F-35? Might want to research that

  • @callumbush1
    @callumbush1 Год назад +1

    Stupid comparison it should be F22 Vs SU57.

  • @jasonmohiri9829
    @jasonmohiri9829 5 месяцев назад

    There is no need to question it, of course su 35 loses in any way..
    Because the F-22 is not an opponent to the SU 35..
    The equivalent opponent of the SU 35 is the F-15 EX

  • @Benz2533
    @Benz2533 Год назад +2

    It not the plane, it the pilot.

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 Год назад +3

      And American pilots get the training and flight hours

    • @Benz2533
      @Benz2533 Год назад

      @@recoil53 yeah like any other air force that can produce their own fighter jets.

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 Год назад +2

      @@Benz2533 I'd bet the American pilots get the most.
      And I doubt Russians get much flight hours.

    • @Benz2533
      @Benz2533 Год назад

      @@recoil53 at this point it is better not to assume anything when it come to training.

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 Год назад +2

      @@Benz2533 Why is that?

  • @Suplexcityme316
    @Suplexcityme316 Год назад +5

    The F-22 is a literal version of the Avengers, it's a call to the universe that the Earth is ready for a different kind of battle. The F-22 is a 2027 Smart Phone, every other fighter jet ever created on Earth is a Texas Instruments Speak & Spell, that's the comparison.

  • @Armonia2810
    @Armonia2810 Месяц назад

    the SU-35 can outperform the F-22 in most engagement scenarios of a classic dogfight. you said it very well. But what you didn't say is that the SU-35 can also destroy any missile that the F-22 launches against it, we have seen this in practice, the soviet-made su-34s, which are bombers, do it many times. so unfortunately such a confrontation will either end up with the F-22 destroyed from the missile that in 2 seconds will launch the su-35 or a dogfight where the F-22 doesn't will have many luck. so in this confrontation the pilots have the main say. and from what we know Russian pilots are better trained than Americans who have never been involved in real air combat

  • @josephcurwen6054
    @josephcurwen6054 5 месяцев назад

    I saw a couple other videos give some different stats on the su35... mach 2.25 and with external fuel tanks a range of over 1500 miles, also they added an external fuel tank behind the pilot and increased the size of the main outside fuel tank

  • @DennisMerwood-xk8wp
    @DennisMerwood-xk8wp Год назад +1

    It's embarrassing reading American commentary about their “superior” F-35 fighter jets. Americans who we read talking about their own aircraft, or any of its military weapons, are invariably clueless. And jingoistically claim that all Russian jet fighters are “rubbish”. And always claim the Yanks are 10-years ahead in technology. If only it were true eh?
    They all prove how little they know or even understand, because none of them have ever asked themselves the most obvious - how can the F-35 stealth fighters detect, track, or target any other stealth aircraft from beyond visual range (BVR)? “Stealth” alone, only defeats high-frequency short wave radar, by absorption and deflection. But it does NOT defeat low-frequency long wave radar. To detect, track, and target other stealth aircraft from BVR, you must have long-wave radar, and it must also be enhanced to remove all background clutter for targeting purposes. And neither the APG-77 radar, used in the F-22, or the APG-81 radar, used in the F-35, can detect any other stealth aircraft from BVR as they have no long wave radar.
    When the F-35 radars were being designed 15-years ago, there weren't any other stealth aircraft to think about as a potential threat! So, how can anyone possibly consider these US stealth aircraft as any sort of real threat to either Russia or China, who both have these US stealth aircraft technically beaten today? They can detect, track, and target the US stealth jets BVR, while the US stealth jets can't even detect them BVR?
    The reality of this Russian “rubbish” that they all claim, is that Russia has a new 5th generation fighter jet with enhanced long-wave radar. The new Byelka 2-band radar used in SU-57. They can detect, track, and target the US stealth jets from BVR. Russia has designed, and they've developed, the first L-Band fighter radar in the world. They've embedded L-band AESA radars into the leading edges of the wings, the L-band AESA radar "data" gets processed in real time through extremely powerful Russian computers, meaning they can detect, track, and engage enemy stealth aircraft from BVR.
    This new Russian technology, along with its very impressive range parameters, and it's jamming ability over very large areas make this aircraft deadly to all other aircraft types. Just Russian rubbish? And they interact in ''real-time'' with each squadron member, auto selecting the best placed BVR missile being carried by any of them that can be fired by anyone of them. They can take full control of surface-to-air (SAM) missile defence systems - that alone is lethal, and they can detect, track, and target all enemy stealth fighters, and detect them long before they even enter Russian airspace. From much greater distances today with the "real-time" data from all those massive Russian ground long wave stations that are all protected with their networked of S-400 ground-to-air missile defensive system.
    These Russian stealth jets will always know exactly where the enemy stealth fighter aircraft are, so they'll approach them head on, being able to shoot down the US stealth jets from BVR while remaining undetected. The US stealth fighter jets would not even detect them coming!
    Russian new 2-band radar, covers all frequencies across all channels, used for tracking, targeting, and also for jamming over large areas. It's part of Sh121 multifunctional integrated radio electronic system (MIRES) on board the SU-57. Russia tested this new radar suit in the SU-35's, so they also have the option of fitting this radar into the SU-35's. Considering the all-important Russian advantage in BVR missile range, plus the excellent manoeuvring, neither the F-22/F-35 have, US jet fighters are going to have a difficult time avoiding simply being blown out of the sky.
    Plus the latest Russian 5th generation radar design provides shared multifunction apertures, with applications including: Search, track, and destroy, missile mid-course guidance, against low signature aircraft, identification of friend or foe with secondary surveillance radar.
    The Russians also have high-powered active jamming systems. Capable of jamming satellite navigation receivers over large areas. And jamming of AEWC-AWACS and surface-based search radars at long ranges. And active jamming of guided munition command data links over large areas. Effectively, and completely, neutralizing the USA's use of AWACS for their detection.
    The reality is this Russian L-band radar is an extremely important strategic development, and it's a technology renders the older US F-15 and F-16, and narrowband stealth designs like the F-22 and F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, and most UAVs, as highly vulnerable to all Russian jet fighter variants equipped with such radars.
    Just Russian crap? A SU-57 fired at, and shot down, a Ukrainian SU-27 from a range of well over 200 km's in Ukraine, smashing the previous world record of range any jet has been shot down from.
    The F-22 has shot down a weather balloon.

  • @MrJamesD
    @MrJamesD Год назад +2

    Ummm now compare the Su57 and the F22

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 Год назад +1

      The SU-57 has a radar cross section of between .1 m^2 and 1 m^2 vs the F-22 .0001 m^2.
      It's no contest - the F-22 is both harder to detect and has better sensors.
      Plus American pilots get a lot more flight hours, which maintains and builds skill.

    • @dexon777
      @dexon777 Год назад

      su57 is 4.5th gen plane

  • @claymeinke5722
    @claymeinke5722 Месяц назад

    Watch all the video`s listen to all the hype but until they go head to head no one can answer this question of witch one will when.

  • @fill-me-in
    @fill-me-in Год назад +3

    I came for F35 not the beast

  • @CoolcatAMA-Pro
    @CoolcatAMA-Pro Год назад +1

    Fun Fact: There has only been one dog fight shoot down At supersonic speed

    • @Fwdking
      @Fwdking Год назад

      What information can you add to this intriguing fact?

  • @kentoz1970
    @kentoz1970 Год назад +2

    F-22 Raptor for the win 💪

  • @vishnuvijayakumar1020
    @vishnuvijayakumar1020 Год назад

    Can you please make a video on comparison between dassault rafale and f16 viper, both are 4th gen aircraft...

  • @adamnabiyar2706
    @adamnabiyar2706 9 месяцев назад

    It makes sense we are no longer in the era of dogfighting in the sky's above. The jets that have better radar and stealth capabilities will win the fight before it starts.

  • @rayearthmoto4234
    @rayearthmoto4234 9 месяцев назад

    Dont compare a sitting duck vs a hunter

  • @justsomerandomguy5346
    @justsomerandomguy5346 Год назад

    so you compared a fifth gen aircraft againts a fourth++ gen aircraft ?, that sounds fair

  • @anthonybroomfield5162
    @anthonybroomfield5162 7 месяцев назад

    F22 in theory is the champ due to stealth advantage

  • @Markosixsixsix
    @Markosixsixsix Месяц назад

    Most of the time it is which pilot is better... like Formula 1.

  • @filippozoncada3660
    @filippozoncada3660 Месяц назад

    Think should be f 22 vs su 57
    F 15 new Version vs su 35

  • @manjunathgmanjunathag7140
    @manjunathgmanjunathag7140 Год назад +11

    Su is a best war plane

    • @Donkeymaster9000
      @Donkeymaster9000 Год назад +1

      Agreed, how else can you replace war losses on a cheap massive scale.

    • @rifats17
      @rifats17 Год назад

      @@Donkeymaster9000 What other aircraft, other than the f-22, can shoot down a balloon, it was created for this, isn't it?

    • @Donkeymaster9000
      @Donkeymaster9000 Год назад

      @@rifats17 ask the Americans, ww1 is over and here they are shooting balloons

    • @danielxiong7227
      @danielxiong7227 Год назад

      They suffered very high loss in Ukraine. 😂😂😂

  • @SchumyWalker-Channel
    @SchumyWalker-Channel Год назад +1

    wth : did you mean F15 vs Su35 ?

  • @owensuppes1
    @owensuppes1 8 месяцев назад

    Not exactly. The f22 can get closer for a higher quality shot, without being locked by the flanker. The stealth of the f22 is a challenge for the flankers targeting

  • @gornikzjaniny4245
    @gornikzjaniny4245 Год назад

    thanks for music.

  • @arnsteinholm7372
    @arnsteinholm7372 Год назад +3

    To compare capabilities you have to include the integration capabilities between these fighters and other systems on the battle field ... because the fighters are not alone operating in their own bubble

    • @Michael.Chapman
      @Michael.Chapman 11 месяцев назад +1

      Sometimes our little single-engine Australian F-35 'Lightnings', with their lack-lustre 45,000 fpm climb rates will face technical issues. God help them if that happens, or if Australia hasn't purchased the complete 'entire suite of USA designed electronic battlefield implementation equipment.' Once the F-35 (or even the F-22) is cut-off from their long-range electronic battlefield infrastructure they may well be doomed... due to their inherent lack of fundamental aerodynamic capability.

  • @SrpskiVitez0
    @SrpskiVitez0 7 месяцев назад +1

    Of course F22 can beat only Chinese balloon no doubt 🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣😏

  • @goonerland8195
    @goonerland8195 Год назад

    Anyone who thinks a "comprehensive" comparison means quoting just one source (Justin Bronk), is very naive indeed.
    Forget "stealth" here, as that aspect cannot be truely verified independently. Just do share performance on design and engineering basis .

  • @kurtismckague8103
    @kurtismckague8103 6 месяцев назад

    Bro it’s 20 to 1 22’s to 35’s…Russia has like what 10 working su 35’s…our 187 raptors could defeat every airforce i on the planet combined. That’s not including the f35s, b2s, or b21s

  • @TheRealBillBob
    @TheRealBillBob Год назад +4

    That is about as comparable to a knife and sniper rifle from 1000ft.🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @alexmedvec4571
    @alexmedvec4571 9 месяцев назад

    At 6:40
    This is not necessary true as Russian fighters employ DRFM jamming which drastically hampers the adversary's first strike capability.

  • @goonerland8195
    @goonerland8195 Год назад +2

    How many shots did it take the -22 to kill a balloon????????

    • @solaroid4442
      @solaroid4442 Год назад +1

      It was a super stealthy Chinese balloon. Newest tech, managed to cross the ocean and then America unnoticed.

  • @RoyalDart101
    @RoyalDart101 Год назад +2

    F-22 is too far ahead. It even fucks the F-35. It even possible that f-22 could take on 6 gen and win.

  • @williambailey8340
    @williambailey8340 4 месяца назад

    Try su-35 against mig-35

  • @nazigrammar9728
    @nazigrammar9728 3 месяца назад

    How much was stolen for f22 vs su35

  • @ahadabdul6263
    @ahadabdul6263 Год назад +2

    One is for popping balloons and another one is for show…😂

  • @joebarracuda6038
    @joebarracuda6038 Год назад

    Why is it so expensive to fly this things. And how long can they stay in the Air max?

    • @jamescrouchet1283
      @jamescrouchet1283 Год назад

      Mostly maintenance costs and weapons. Fuel is a very minor cost. In flight the skin of any stealth aircraft will take some minor damage, all of which decreases it's stealth so that has to be fixed right away using advanced materials and techniques. Parts can not allowed to operate until failure and so are replaced long before any expected failure. Missiles are fantastically expensive, especially the US missiles which are more advanced, so anytime one of those is fired replacing it is a major cost. For example, just one AIM-120D costs over $1M USD. Installed cost of full armament for the F22 is around $8M USD.

  • @peterdisbury
    @peterdisbury 4 месяца назад

    Since the F22 has never left American soil I really don't see the Raptor beating anything overseas until we actually see it in combat. The Waptor is fun to watch at airshows or out in Death Valley where they do training runs. That's about it, though, the Su34/35 has seen combat against a foe in another country against other pilots of those nations. F22 will shoot down weather balloons, burn $50K an hour in fuel just to impress the military staff. I have seen this aircraft at shows and in National Parks and I am not impressed at all. To spend $67B on an aircraft that will never engage outside of the US is just plain stupid. I would be impressed if the US sent these jets to Ukraine after the pilots there were trained and see how they did. But, NOOOOOOO, the US sends them old decrepit F16s, might as well send them Cessnas....

  • @themetalprincess
    @themetalprincess 9 месяцев назад

    Su-35s would likely beat all American Jets except the F22. The F-22 cannot be beaten. maybe the Chinese J-20 might survive?

  • @HanabangIrawan-nu7uo
    @HanabangIrawan-nu7uo 8 месяцев назад +1

    Su 35 absolute ....

  • @stealthtomcat4739
    @stealthtomcat4739 Год назад

    There is no comparison really even in dogfight f-22 has more chances of defeating su-35.

  • @owindustry
    @owindustry Год назад +1

    compare su57 with f22 not su35.

  • @azizmkhalje9023
    @azizmkhalje9023 Год назад

    VW rabbitrabbit, and Porsche GT That’s the differences between Russia and American plain

  • @Emad-x6o
    @Emad-x6o Год назад +3

    I wish to compare Sukhoi 57 with F 22 🤗

    • @disillusioned8686
      @disillusioned8686 Год назад +5

      This would be a useless comparison. Su-57 has the same engines as the Su-35 and also was found to not have good stealth characteristics (India refused to buy the final product from Russia because it didn’t meet 5th gen fighter requirements and was just a bad plane)
      Even Russian Su-35 has terrible avionics compared to Western fighters (US and European made) this is why a bunch of countries are opting to buy Rafale over Su-35’s

    • @Emad-x6o
      @Emad-x6o Год назад

      @@disillusioned8686 I agree with you, but there is another reason , And it is that many countries are afraid of the sanctions that the United States may impose, and we do not forget Egypt, which was threatened with penalties in the event of the completion of the Sukhoi 35 deal with Russia.

  • @Nevar_studios
    @Nevar_studios 7 месяцев назад +2

    All the Americans are hating on this video lol

  • @phoenixarizona472
    @phoenixarizona472 24 дня назад

    the Raptor has down, no problem

  • @MrPrasert94
    @MrPrasert94 Год назад +1

    U cannot comparision this 2 Jet fighter F35 a stealth Su35 not stealth!!

    • @СерхиоБускетс-ф7я
      @СерхиоБускетс-ф7я Год назад

      so what? su 35 much better in all, radar Irbis can detect f22 at distance 180-250 km and can shoot down f22 because russia use long range missiles (300 km)

    • @MrPrasert94
      @MrPrasert94 Год назад

      @@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я Impossible f22/f35 can target lock with GPS a high tech than su35/su57 they are shoot down by F.!

    • @СерхиоБускетс-ф7я
      @СерхиоБускетс-ф7я Год назад

      @@MrPrasert94 haha, GPS, It seems you don't even understand anything about these matters. planes don't aim through satellites, trust me. I gave you the information he is an engineer who creates radars, he also knows the test results on models like F22. So this is correct information. Russian planes are better at everything, you just hear a lot of Western propaganda from all sources.

    • @MrPrasert94
      @MrPrasert94 Год назад

      @@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я HaHaHa ..Where are U su 57..where it is show the power on Ukranin capital.Why Putin cannot take on Ukr in time?? hahaha!!NO su 57 for attack Ukr!!.

    • @MrPrasert94
      @MrPrasert94 Год назад

      @@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я Or are your su57 fear our Patriot missile! ..hahaha!!

  • @williamkern500
    @williamkern500 5 месяцев назад

    Hahahahahaha 😂 hold on a minute, Ahh hahahahahaha hahaha . What! What were you sayin'? 😂

  • @ViceCoin
    @ViceCoin Месяц назад

    US postponed NGAD because stealth is overrated.

  • @ДенисШкарин-э2н
    @ДенисШкарин-э2н Год назад

    Мда... Это как сравнить ведро с болтами и космический корабль...

  • @samelloit602
    @samelloit602 Год назад

    Today April 30th over syria the su35 was showing the USA their jet

  • @siviunative5241
    @siviunative5241 Год назад

    should compare su57 to f22

  • @djordjelezajic8435
    @djordjelezajic8435 Год назад

    When you watch these clips,it looks like the Americans should be landing with their military planes at Sheremetyevo at will,since there is nothing Russia can do about it.I read about F- 22,this and that,how many confirmed kills does an F-22 pilot have,anywhere in the world ? None ? So,all this is based on a simulation,make believe video game,or something ? I go to watch F - 35 , and all I see is them falling off the airplane carrier,pilot ejecting in Texas 100 feet of the ground,before the plane collapsed,another one off an airplane carrier,because the word is,F-35 cannot do vertical take offs when loaded with ordinance...

    • @ImBigFloppa
      @ImBigFloppa Год назад

      F-22 has no kills because it has never tried. America hasn't been in a war with an enemy air force since the Gulf War.
      F-35 has literally the lowest crash rate of any fighter jet, and no aircraft can take of vertically with ordnance. It's in the name of the aircraft. Short take off vertical landing. It carries much more fuel and ordnance using a short take off, hence why pure VTOL jets don't really exist.
      Also just so you know, the Su-35 has had 1/3 the crashes (5/6 if you include the ones destroyed in Ukraine) with 7x fewer units made compared to the F-35. Su-57 is even worse with 1/3 the crashes in a quarter the time with 50x fewer units made