F-22 Raptor Vs Su-75 Checkmate 5th Generation Duel | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |
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Please create a Vid with The A-10C & F-15E while on the same side/team are directly competing as they are often compared! In the sense that they aren't really looking out for one another, trying to get the most kills, and of course survive! VS couple Mi-24's, Strela, Tunguska, SA-5, SA-11, and couple SU-25's! Plus provide ground support VS .50 Technical Trucks, BTR's, BMP's, T-72's, and couple T-90's!🙏👍
I don't understand, you can use Su-75 which is on paper but not AIM-260 which is under testing?
Why dude??
Please fly the su 75!!!
Do the reverse, you use the checkmate and see if you can kill a raptor. That hyper was close, so skill and holding the hypers a little longer before firing might be enough.
YF-23 vs SU-75 🙏🏼
4:00 “I think I defeated it.”
I was bracing myself….😂
There is precedent for that. 😄
@@barbaros99 Indeed. 😅
Me too, I was waiting for a BOOM!
X4!
Too often the famous last words.
Does anyone else hate it when GS says "we're fine"? Sir, no tf we are not. I am SCARED, good buddy! 😅😂
"we're fine" while actively being hunted lmao
I was definitely amped up for those hypersonics.
Even I get scared when I say it.
@@GrowlingSidewinder 😂 "We're fine ... *sweats profusely*"
Haha Davis
GS: "We're fine"
Me: *Checks video length to make sure its not ending in 14 seconds*
Very true
"Time to let the kid off his chain. "
Grandpa Buff
Would you intercept me? Id intercept me...
"What's a photon torpedo?"
Good to know ow I’m not the only one who loves that guy 😆
@@smugfrog8111 "what?? Isnt not called that what are you talking about??? _air force i told you to fucking redact that._"
"He has turned his thrusters to max and is trying to melt his chains _send help_."
14:09 - I was pretty sure when he said "I' sure it doesn't have the energy to hit me now" that the next thing was going to be *splick* and a black screen.
yeah i felt a little dejavu when he said that .
Raptor's just built different. Its stealth can defeat even modern hubris-seeking missiles.
Family of four in pieces or on fire due to a missed hypersonic.
GS- “whoops” 😅
That's by design.
This is probably the closest thing the Checkmate will ever see to production let alone combat 😂
I was just gonna say, “they have three of these, one flies and two are for parts”. Paper tiger military.
@@bmoorear We remember how the US got kicked in Vietnam and Afghanistan 😂
@bmoorear they have 0 of these. They can't even put together a functional squadron of 57's. The 75 we saw is nothing more than a plywood model. All of Russias' advanced weapons are tech demos. The T14 breaking down in the Red Square during May Day rehearsal, their inability to make the 57 actually functional, and now this joke of a thing which looks like a wish version of the X32 which is even funnier because they are copying a western design that lost its contract bid to the F35. There is a reason putins only threat to the west is nuclear in nature, they would get absolutely bodied in conventional warfare with the US.
@@VIPER276you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about
@@VIPER276 Russia in Afghanistan😂 Thats all im gonna say! read some books mate, then come back!😂😂
Raptor: Ah you think stealthiness is your ally? You merely adopted the stealth. I was born in it, molded by it.
Pretty, shame that Raptor knows to be famous for crashing.
@@heatblast876 what
@@heatblast876 Dream?
@@heatblast876 the number of crashes of f22s is normal compared to both other nato and Russian fighters. On the other hand, the checkmate has yet to see a flying prototype, let alone production
So, I have a question: Why are you people insulting other aviation works that are trying to make a 5 gen aircraft.
And thus the Raptor spoke: "Checkmate, Checkmate!"
YF-23 vs SU-47 dogfight
iPhone 15 vs Constitution of Botswana dogfight
This would be fun.
23 wasn't a better dogfighter tho, it was stealthier and faster than 22... Su47 still, a very purpose built low speed hairpin turner... the outcome is pretty clear in a dogfight...
@@sohrabroozbahani4700 Stealthier yes, but I'm pretty sure the 22 is the better dog fighter.
Yes pls
And Su-57 vs YF-23 BVR!!!!11!1!!
*obvious Russian here*
When the Checkmate missed with his last hypersonic, I got a little excited. I said "Now get that little fucker!" out loud and scared my wife. Lol
Ruh-Roh Raggy! Yeah these videos get intense as hell dude.
my thought was he fired a non-hypersonic for bluffing to a later available hypersonic
ROFL!!! I get those looks from the wife, myself!! 😂😂
The other 80% of the worlds wives are hearing the opposite, But at least those Raptors can pop balloons I suppose, and it's got a cool name 'Raptor', noice
It feels like BVR fights are more about the missiles than the platform carrying them. There's certainly an argument for the platform being stealth, having a good radar, etc. but the missile capabilities feels like 80% of the fight.
That’s kind of correct I’d say more like 65-70% but ya the assessment is accurate for the most part.
Su-75 wasn’t designed to kill a raptor with its guns…
@@norske_ow3440 a su-75 has not been designed to even fly yet lol
@@brucehedgpeth1396 no shit Sherlock
@@brucehedgpeth1396 Considering the.. Underwhelming numbers of SU-57s they've produced I don't think we're gonna see a SU-75 fly, ever.
I love it when the Raptor shows off its weapons bay. Its like a dog showing its fangs!
Indeed! The Raptor consumed yet another Prey :)
Two scary additions to the Raptor would be the MBDA Meteor or the AIM-260 JATM, which is reported to be coming sometime in 2024. It would be fun to see either of these applied to the Raptor and facing multiple 5th-generation fighters.
What is aim-260?
@@AB-jp2eb New U.S. long range air to air missile
@@AB-jp2eb It's a damn good reason to not be a communist
I don't know, even though its entertaining, it feels off, because we don't actually have the real specs for both or other 5th gens to use as a model.
You got to do F-35 vs Su-75 both single engine stealth
> Su-57
> "stealth"
Lol. Lmao, even.
@@scottc5627 seventy five. But the point may still remain.
@@scottc5627 You sure know better than Russian Military. Su 57 is clearly a 5th gen multirole fighter. F-35 cant even go supercruise without afterburner.
@waldemar31293 where as the su-57 only barely exists
@@MrEshah 22 Su 57 exist
For a cardboard & plywood mockup built for indoor presentations pursuing foreign sales orders, that Su75 is a badass.
Patiently waiting for GS to drop the BF3 F-18 mission “Going Hunting”
The most relaxing way of defending an incoming missile. And a suitable sound track at the end.
I have to wonder if the Raptor Killer statement was made with a dog fighting idea. Anything can sling a long range missle, however, the Raptor is not just stealth, it can dogfight better than almost all other fighters.
Ya I think to claim to kill the raptor in a dogfight is an ever bigger claim to say you can beat it in BVR
I honestly think it was far more of a marketing idea. Russia has a long history of making inflated claims about the performance of their weapons to drive sales, then their buyers find out they've been sold second rate hardware. Just ask Egypt, Syria, India....
@@truthseeker9454 That's how you know it's the best in the world: everyone who's anyone is trying to beat it, and their marketing departments are advertising their supposed ability to beat it.
If they ever start marketing things as a "__ killer" for some fighter other than the Raptor, we'll know it's been surpassed.
Just Russia trying to look bigger than it really is they no they don’t have anything close to the raptor but nice try
Designed to beat a 20 years old plane, yet nowhere near production... Good job Russia
It’s nice to see GS head back home after that engagement. I turned down my volume three times during that! Each time, narrative like, “It’s been a while, so I *should* be clear of the hypersonic missile now,” has me hitting the 📢) button on my computer so the sound of skull fragments blowing down into the pilot’s chest cavity didn’t make me jump.
I always enjoy the airshow passes at the end. Great stuff.
"I think we should be okay"(clips to hypersonic missile going top speed in his direction)
4:57 watch out that missile is comin!!
Great stuff! Always good to see more BVR.
I'm skeptical that that Checkmate could pick up the stealthy Raptor so easily. Would be interesting to see how the Black Widow would do against the Checkmate...
Pretty sure 23 is even more stealthy. Remember the 22 was redesigned to take some of the 23s stealth shape.
@TheOfficial007 that's why it would be interesting to go up against the Black Widow. To see if it doesn't get tracked like the Raptor. 23 was stealthier and faster, just wasn't as quite as maneuverable. USAF was skeptical about choosing Northrop after delays and budget overruns with the development of the B-2. Raptor is awesome but I wonder what might've been with the Black Widow. Cool that DCS can give us a glimpse.
@@codychild2665 true
@@codychild2665AFAIK the Black Widow was only marginally faster, think like 0.2 mach tops, but it was gonna be more difficult to work with in terms of the materials for smth complex near the intake and exhaust for RCS control; in weapons capacity Raptor could hold 8 and even demonstrated firing while the YF-23 would hold a little less. In the big picture the industry balance at the time for fighters leaned towards Mc/Boeing and NG so I imagine the thought was to throw LM a bone.
DCS is modeled based on the unclassified numbers. Historically, Russia tends to overstate their capabilities, and the US tends to understate them. One thing I keep thinking about though... You know how beefy the radar is on an F-15, where it can lock you, your jet, and the hotdog you have in your stomach? When they ran a 5v1 exercise against the F-22, none of the F-15's even got radar contact, let alone lock or visual.
Awesome stuff, REALLY love to see two experimental models in DCS (experimental because we won't get any real-life data and performance on these things any time soon).
I didn't realize how hefty the Su-75 is. So let's see Fat Amy versus Chubby Checkmate
I like the raptor opening its bay doors and breaking stealth to moon the crashed Checkmate at the end;) Well done.
The checkmate approached the Raptor with a smug smirk, saying, "Me or you, who would win?"
The Raptor remained reclusive and stayed composed. "If you had 3 Hypersonic missiles, I might have a little trouble."
"But would you lose?"
"Nah, I's win. For throughout airframes and Sneak 100's, I alone am the stealthy one. For my RCS is a bumblebee's, I can defeat your missiles with ease and sneak my way in for the kill."
The Checkmate slumped down with defeat evident in his shoulders but regained his confidence when he heard the Raptor say, "Stand proud Checkmate, you were strong"
how does jjk brainrot reach the DCS community ☠
@@shulminsama3820 Nah, I'd spread
okay..?
@@FrostYT4444 I'd spread
There is no RCS of a bumblebee..
The US just gives you lowest possible RCS in best condition. Average RCS is MUCH higher.
Is it just me or is the AMRAAM increasingly outclassed by the most modern Russian and Chinese missiles?
That's why the AIM260 is in production. Perun has a great video on the subject
The AMRAAM D is extremely capable but yes it is out ranged by some other missiles. The fact that a chinese missile can fly further means nothing if it can't lock on to a Stealth fighter until its 20 miles away.
For now… yes. The 260 and other missiles in development should give the US the edge again.
You could use the AIM -260 for this. It will be available when the Checkmate is in the air
Pretty sure the AIM-9000 will be available before the Su-75 is actually in production 😆
@@resurgam_b7 Or the HAL9000..
"You never really know, Ya know?" haha love it.
Checkmate didn't use the plasma canons and the time travel device?!?!
How did I not know of this channel!? This is great stuff.
Perhaps the Checkmate would like to try his luck in a gunfight? Or maybe not since he lost two out of three to an F-16
On a simulator😂😂😂😂😂.
Doesn't seem like the Checkmate is much of a Raptor killer if it has to rely on its missiles. We need some guns only Raptor v Checkmate.
@@damirbajic4579Yea, hurry up, show your “hypersonic missiles” and “jet that’s scaring the West” to the rest of the world
@inff3rno Mine? Dude, where do you think I am from? Jesus everloving Christ.
@@damirbajic4579 Mb, I’m slow socially 💀
lol, i love how the raptor opened it's bay at the end, like a kid, proving he swallowed all his food.
FAFO, apply directly to the forehead.
I always get a chuckle after a victory and your parting view shot is of the empty weapons bay.
Checkmate must have a great radar to lock the F22 at 80 plus miles .
The Raptor killer get his trial by fire now.
Always enjoy the empty weapons bay shot. Nice job!
Love this vid. One of my favs.
Hey GS,ain't bragging but you silenced that Raptor killer stuff quickly,two thumbs up my Brother in Arms, keep up the good work 💯💯💯💯
To quote 300, the movie I enjoyed very much: we'll put their name to the test.
This is the content that God you here to make. Keep killin that shht homie!!!
Nicely done 👍🏻
Man that missile bay opening at the end there.... disrespectful.
This seems like it would get extremely addictive...great vid!
The Checkmate just got Bobby Fischered.
Put op quite a fight tho considering it's just a fancy plywood box.
@@mikek9297Not really...it performed like any other SU or Mig. Fired a few missiles but got taken out just like the rest.
@@mikeburkhalter9602 I seem to remember a certain Flanker which didn’t even know Raptor was flying in formation with it.
@@mikeburkhalter9602It’s a great analogy. Fischers opponents would press and press and have a slight advantage in the beginning and middle of a match, then it would turn to Fischer having a small advantage, then it was all over.
In Soviet Russia, Chess plays you!
The hypersonic missile animation is awesome! Very impressive!
1:58 "just to give him something to think about"🤣
Rumorville says the updated F-22 that has the stealth drop tanks also has the Aim-260s. Make some videos using the Aim-260s. The F22 and NGAD possibly the F35 are the only fighters to carry and use them. Aim260 has a smart engine both IR and radar seeker. Longest range out of all current missles.
Hmmm, wouldn't dropping the drop tanks then hand your stealth technology over to whoever picks it up?
Actually the aircraft isn't the Raptor killer, the missile is.
So the Checkmate was able to lock up the Raptor at 70+ miles?
I was thinking the same thing
I have to say, I do like the look of the Checkmate. It looks like an amalgam of Boeing and Lockheed's JSF designs if they didn't have the Marine/STOVL requirement, which might very well have been their design inspiration.
Time will tell if it ever reaches production.
He actually did it!
ngl i kinda wanna see a F-22 vs 6 Eurofighter Typhoon video idk why but it sounds cool
He did one of the F-22 vs 7 Eurofighter Typhoons a year ago.
@@brigdonbishop3095 oh thx :)
We're fine or everything is ok, especially with Longshot in the heli vids are so f'ing funny! One of the reasons I still and always will say GS has the best content.
Looks like the “raptor killer” turn into the raptors dinner
That cheeky empty bay show at the end though. The 22 is a friggin spaceship! I am actually living in the future and maybe I just didn't realise.
He still had one in the bay, no?
@VAPhillyFan54 oh bloody hell, did he? lol. maybe I didn't have my glasses on!
This scenery is so beautiful, I wont be able to find concentration to fight in visual paradise.
Thanks for the fun GS! By the way, when you say were fine, I'm going to recommit, I automatically pull my hearing aids out, just in case!❤😊
The AMRAAM was not even trying... lol
It was just chillin his way to the interception point
Remember guys... The raptor is last century tech.
And built during a time the US was a lot less secretive about its projects. A lot has changed since then.
It was way ahead of its time when it was built though
@@edwarddill3254 That's my point. It shows how advanced US tech is.
That has been upgraded with new tech that still dominates everything in the sky.
GS, nice job checkmating the checkmate.............!
Great videos! F-35 and F-22 refresh allow establishing lock without being nose on? Just looking over with the helmet they say. That would be cool to see.
I’m so excited for the AIM-260 to be active. According to Sandboxx, our military said the AIM-260 is so advanced that we could decrease our number of already limited Raptors, and still be just fine.
When I see toxic flying I know it’s going to be a good fight!
Would like to see a toe-to-toe guns only fight between the Raptor and the Checkmate.
And this case has come to a close. The king defends its kingdom and is ruled as the victor!
That Checkmate resembles the Boeing JSF entry, with the ridiculously large "mouth".
would be interesting to see how the phoenix missile on the F14 do against modern hypersonic missiles
It's amazing how good a plane that was designed in the 90'sand introduced in 2005 is in current times.
This video could have very well ended at that second hypersonic😂😂😬 that was very close
in the habit of when I hear " everything is fine" to check the run time left on the video.
Always enjoy the bay door smile of the F22.
Not going where the missiles are sounds like good advice regardless of what you're flying...
Awesome job
How about a dogfight 22 vs 75?
By the way, huge fan! Amazing work GS!
I wasn't worried one little bit...geesh...
My imaginary aerogel F666 firing AID 2000G space missiles is also a raptor killer.
I'd be intereted in seeing what your adversaries do in response to your attacks and defences.
I wonder how much is tech and how much is sheer pilot skill. GS and the play by play its like your a chess pro, I would really love to see this with you guys switching jets, and see how much is the pilot. Also would love to see the video from the other pilots narrative as he is trying to out strategize you. I am always impressed, i really hope you do a vs a real pilot again sometimes soon.
Really want the tac-view debrief for this. The nerds beg you
@GrowlingSidewinder Do you think having the Mako missile on the F22 is going to make it even more difficult to fly against?
"Hey StateFarm my house just blew up, I don't know how but its gone!"
looking forward to seeing the Lockheed Mako Hypersonic on the F22.
"Raptor killer" LOLZ
On your first Fox 3, why did you maintain the crank after you shot out of range and a hypersonic was inbound?
I had time so I kept the lock
man that R37 sure does burn dirty.
would love to see you use a JAS 39C Girpen vs Su-75 Checkmate 5th Generation Duel
AWESOME FIGHT! MAN YOU ARE GREAT IN THAT RAPTOR!!!!!!
It looks like the Checkmate (in DCS at least) has a really powerful radar to get and keep weapons locks on the F22 at those ranges. It’s what I’d expect with a F35 or F15EX radar.
The graphics make it looks so cold outside.
THIS IS WHAT I WANTED TO SEEE !!!!!1 WOW
I don't get it, if a F22 is stealth and most radars cannot see it until say, 20 miles, how was this SU-75 shooting at 100 miles? What did I miss? Or since we don't know capabilities it was modeled to see an eagle from 100nms?
Most likely the Checkmate can see the radar return from his radar. Also, the F-22 isn't perfectly stealth, as it can be seen by various radar types (seen, but not 'locked' per se). Also, the missile will pitbull when in range with it's own tracker/seeker. It's less of a binary question and more probability based.
my thoughts also, and the radars that can see our stealth planes are not airborne radars
Stealth doesn't mean it's invisible.
Search radars will pick them up but tracking is a different story.
NGL i thought the Checkmate looked pretty cool till the moment i saw the F-16 video, looks very wierd flying
Definately want to see the f22 vs su-75 dogfight
A question I’ve always had, at what point is too fast for an air to air/ SAM? Surely that would put severe limits on maneuvering capabilities, yeah sure it’s a tiny un-manned machine but at hypersonic speeds pulling that hard? That’s like driving a truck at 200 mph and trying to aim for an ant that can also move fairly quickly in the street.
Most awaited video on RUclips maybe 😅