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Nice to watch always, but aside of flatearthers, can you do some videos about Mars? How is possible that xenon 129 is found on mars or why did nasa filtered photos and made us believe mars is red/orange, and it is not? All i know is what i can get from the internet. But you are the scientific source i am able to trust so, if you can, give your opinion on things about Mars, for xenon at least. cheers and success
Wat ontkracht je eigenlijk scimandan? In mijn ogen niks .kinderachtig kom je over .jij probeerd mensen tegen elkaar op te hitsen. Ik laat het hier maar bij want ik maak me er kwaad om en dat is precies waar jij opuit bent
"I was in communication with a NASA whistleblower..." Translation "I was in communication with a guy who thought it would be great fun to mess with a stupid flat Earther and see how much 'stupid' they would be happily accept..."
TEN Rules of flerfing : 1) Strawman the globe model in a desperate bid to manufacture a "gotcha". 2) NEVER, under any circumstances, talk about your positive claim that the earth is FLAT. 3) If pushed to do the above, pretend that you "claim nothing". 4) Learn to articulate the sounds “nu” and “huh” together in quick succession and use it whenever you need to deny reality (i.e, often). 5) Pre-emptively reject the answers to every question you ask. 6) Cherry pick parts of quotes that you think might help you, whilst pretending the rest never happened. 7) Perform a ‘flerf reset’ every morning, conveniently forgetting everything that was said to you the previous day. 8) Ignore the fact that, despite more than 10 years of social media flerfing, flat earth has advanced about as far as an asthmatic Ant with particularly heavy shopping. 9) Lie. 10) Lie more.
"Why do we have balloons up there instead of satellites" is a bit like asking "why do we have motorbikes when we have cars". And if they seriously cannot think of any reasons for themselves why the balloons are useful then it proves they aren't even trying to think beyond their own first assumptions.
I would say it is more like "Why do we have motorbikes when we have boats". Balloons can work inside the atmosphere and that only up to a certain point as they need to be on average less dense then the surroundings to experience enough buoyancy, while satellites need to be in as good a vacuum as they can be to not experience too much drag and fall down quickly. The highest balloons can go is around 50 km - orbital velocity would be around mach 20 - that thing will not last. In comparison the ISS is already at a very low orbit of ~400km and loses altitude quickly ( i think from its highest orbit it was still sub 2 years for crashing without any boost)
The ones making this movie are grifters and con men. It doesnt matter that it doesnt make sense because their target audience is looking for confirmation bias and not thinking for themselves.
Why do we have Aircraft instead of Balloons? Why do we have Cars instead of Aircraft? Why do we have Push Bikes instead of Cars? Equally hard hitting questions, lol
yeah which apparently includes not checking the NASA TV schedule with all their ISS education outreach events with schools and colleges (hence all the party tricks and goofing around and answering questions from kids of all ages). Or the many astronaut interviews were they talk about the free time built into their hectic work schedule to do whatever they want like hanging out in the cuppola.
Also, NASA's images of balloons, ISS water tank etc are sufficient to prove they exist, but NASA's images of anything in/from space are faked. If you believe NASA is the most prolific faker of images on the planet, why would you use any of their images? Oh, wait, because some support your pre-existing view ...
@@MadMaz1983 If only someone would invent some kind of apparatus that could be worn on your head that could help shield his eyes from the Sun... We can only dream...
@@MadMaz1983 You believe in sunshine??? You think light just hits your eyes?? That's the same stuff lasers are made out of! You'd go blind!! I swear, you lightists just don't think about these things.
Personally, I think he was scammed by someone out to make a quick buck. It's pretty easy to scam someone if you want to convince them from something they already 'know'.
The funniest thing about this is not his ludicrous complaint, but where he is making that complaint. He's not in front of some high powered government commission which is in a position to do anything even remotely like what he is demanding, he's basically up in front of a local council where you can complain about the street lights not working on your road, or your rubbish bins not being emptied properly and stuff like that. This is akin to me me going to an Accrington Town Council meeting and demanding they immediately send a team to investigate the possibility of biological weapons of mass destruction in North Korea.
It kind of makes sense. None of them have ever held an actual high-stress or demanding job (what with mostly living in their moms' basements), so they're completely incapable of grasping how someone in such a position could possibly be able to relax or unwind.
@@frocat5163 It’s not that they are allowed to have fun. It’s that they think they are being mocked and take the silliness as a dig against them. I guess they’ve never seen off action firefighters. Seeing that unless they have a call they are doing things to pass the time at the fire station.
@@Isolder74 If flerfing morons believe off-duty astronauts are engaging in hobbies specifically to mock flerfing idiots, then said idiots are even less intelligent than they seem. And far more arrogant. Literally no one stationed on the ISS spares a moment of thought for flerfs.
It kind of makes sense from there perspective, since they think these are actors that just go there for the camera, so why would they play a guitar, thats boring. In reality the astronauts are there for multiple days and have some time to kill.
@@Isolder74 That's schitzo behavior. I worked in a home for mentally ill people of various types, one of the clients with schizophrenia kept complaining to me that the people on the radio/tv/parked cars were judging and mocking her. Although at least she had the valid excuse of being genuinely schizophrenic...
Two can play the "Whistleblower" game. How about this? I spoke to a Flat Earther Whistleblower the other day and he told me that at their last secret convention, all the Flat Earthers in the room said they realized the Earth was round, but pushing Flat Earth stuff was getting them a lot of attention and they liked being able to make some money off of it. Pretty amazing stuff, right?!
Wouldn't be the first time. I've seen "chemtrail" believers unironically use cockpit photos where pilots have stuck a "chemtrails on" sticker on a switch as evidence of chemtrails.
Had a recent chat with a Flerfer, I was really interested to know what it would look like. But all he could say was how globe earth is wrong, he had no idea what a flat earth would actually look like! I asked what would be underneath the flat, he said "why would there be an underneath?" Having no understanding of 3D objects having a bottom side. We talked about a lot of other things and was then accused of working for NASA (even though we are both British). Funniest conversation ever.
That's always a killer argument when talking to a conspiracy theorist -"What is _your_ explanation then?" For example, global warming. Ask why the Earth is warming and they'll try to tell you it isn't, and all of Earth thermometers have deliberately been placed in places that are warm to give false readings. WTC 7 is another one. Why do they think it fell down? Well of course, as part of the world's most perfectly executed conspiracy, the team behind it decided to set up demolition charges on another building that wasn't hit by the plane. In order to... uhh... why would they do that again? It's a standard case of "give 'em enough rope..." which of course is in reality why 95% of the time you don't get a response at all.
That's always a killer argument when talking to a conspiracy theorist -"What is your explanation then?" Works really well with 9/11 or global warming conspiracy theorists. Their arguments are always so pathetically weak.
Could you imagine what flat earthers could accomplish if they all put all their energy into something useful? I mean, their collective intellectual power could light a bulb for 3, maybe 4 seconds!
Could you image what globalists could accomplished if they all put all their energy into something instead of believeing everything. Your collective intellectual could make a dumb mf look smart and yall some dumb mf😂😂😂
For context, the planes Dave mentioned: Proteus: 504 km/h U2: 805 km/h B2: 1,010 km/h Rutan Voyager: took 9 days to circumnavigate earth. ... Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird holds the official Air Speed Record for a manned airbreathing jet engine aircraft with a speed of 3,530 km/h North American X-15 set the official world record for the highest speed ever recorded by a crewed, powered aircraft, 10,870 km/h, which remains unbroken. At this speed, it would take it 3.6 hrs to circle the earth, and this is well into experimental/rocket propulsion territory. ISS: 28,000 km/h Circles earth every 90 minutes (1.5 hrs), with no indication of propulsion at all. (That's because it's in orbit, so it doesn't require propulsion).
do you work in engineering? (Not sarcastic, serious question). Because, if all of that is true, that's quite an interesting collection of stats and I'm genuinely impressed. Either you're an engineer, or you love studying these facts. Either way, Good job with the stats.
I love how flat earthers talk about the government lying but use government clips to prove its flat, or the say Neil is a government shill but use his they couldn’t see the curve to prove its flat
Not only that, but try and use a public NASA budget to show that helium is being used to fake satellites like we couldn't just, you know, not itemize correctly the items to give away the dastardly plan. The government is all powerful and deceitful when they want it to be and incompetent and useless when they need that as well. Mind blowing stuff.
OK Dan, I'm a Florida native and as such I feel you should have put a trigger warning up before playing that video of the Brevard county man petitioning the city council to investigate NASA. I almost die from second hand embarrassment every time I see that clip.
@@TheRenofox I can't believe that guy is really complaining that they're playing around and having fun , is he seriously saying that they shouldn't relax and enjoy themselves?? Is he really that deranged?
They probably hear stupid crap all the time. Every community has at least that one person that complains about everything. They were probably zoned out and thinking about what to make for dinner.
@@clee8768 NASA gets 3 billion per year Military funding gets near a trillion per year One benefits all mankind One kills for profit Yea flat earthers , lets complain about the one that doesn't kill people for profit
You know how flat earthers love the shuttle explosion? I have a theory that it never exploded, and flat earthers made it up to discredit NASA! After all, if the shuttle program only ended in 2011, what were they flying for years after the explosion? Checkmate flerfs!
@@FlatEarth-q1fThat is probably CGI, but Earth is still a sphere like shape. Look up a model for sun, moon, and stars. It is a lot simpler, more conducing to physics, and more intuitive than if the planet was flat.
"Change the record" Flat Earthers strike me as the type of people to drop hundreds of dollars everytime a new Ipod hits stores, only to continue downloading the same 3 or 4 songs
How do you maintain sanity, Dan? They drive me crazy just watching you debunk. Thank you, and all the other debunkers (catz, creaky...) for taking on the task lol
Instead of a "NASA whistleblower," Dave should have gotten a deathbed confession. A B-2 bomber is a flying wing design. It looks nothing like what he showed.
Good call. Noting that all aircraft have finite endurance, I,m at a loss as to the lack of aerial refuelling pics of these mythical B2s or any imagery captured during shift change when there should be TWO statiions visible
And they fail to describe how nobody has ever seen the B-2/U2/Proteus take off and land for these fly-bys of the ISS, in the UK, and Europe, and Australia, and ...
Repeating statements may make you think, they are a lie, but may I remember: "CC Chris from Westchester County New York" and latest Mark Sargent "if there is a curve, take a picture of, put on your screen,... I will quit FE tomorrow"...
I love how they can't believe that the invisible attraction between 2 massive object is due to gravity but when it comes to magnetism which is a similarly invisible force which also acts in all directions between two magnetic objects, I've never seen one of them question it. Just shows they can't understand the true scale of thing due to gravity being a lot weaker.
Magnetism doesn’t bunk their model, such as they have, whereas gravity definitely does. It’s a bit like them using certain scientific experiments which confirm their model but ignoring those which blow it out of the water. Or showing parts of NASA videos which seem to support their position whilst overlooking entire videos which prove the globe. Now, if only there was a term to describe this, you know, ooh, maybe something to do with selecting fruit…
@@lidbass Yes they cherry pick clips but then if you watch the entire original video you find out that their wires aren’t going to work with what happens. They are always lying about something.
The other thing they do that isn’t _technically_ lying is just having incorrect expectations due to ignorance. This is most noticeable when it comes to the behavior of light, optics, and cameras.
I bet it was some random Dave from facebook who smokes a lot of pot while listening to Joe Rogan and uses word "sheeple" a lot - a guy who thinks he knows what's up
Giving him the benefit of a doubt, he believed them because they said something he wanted to hear. But realistically, he pulled that one entirely out of his own ass.
If the person's credentials do not check out, it is actually PROOF that he is who he claims. NASA deleted his information to discredit him! Those sneaky guys!
One small correction Dan: The spacewalk footage was not Mercury, but Gemini. With the one-person Mercury they did not leave the capsule. Only when they had Gemini with two astronauts did they do that. Mercury was not designed to be left in orbit, and also for safety reasons they did it only when a second astronaut was there who could rescue the other in case of an emergency.
Agreed, Gemini IV in June 1965, but lest we not forget that NASA was repeatedly coming in 2nd place in this 'race for space' as Alexei Leonov was the first human to spacewalk 3 months earlier during Voskhod 2. I didn't realise that Leonov commanded the Soyuz capsule in the Apollo-Soyuz mission in 1975, which docked in space for two days with an American Apollo capsule. The flerfs never mention the Russians do they? They never call the Soviet space program a massive hoax do they? I wonder why?
@@kernicterus1233they never mention any of the other countries space programs. If u notice they think the world is America so dumb.i mean what are they gonna say when China set foot on the moon
So you have to spend every minute of every day on missions that last for months not having fun? It all has to be non-stop work? I think anyone would go completely crazy.
They can’t even be bothered to try and poke holes in any of that space footage. They just assume that the audience also wants so badly for it to be fake that they will convince themselves it looked fake.
The video of Starship landing at 12:00, an event that anyone could literally go watch in person (with thousands of people doing just that) being included in their little montage is my personal favorite.
Flatties are not smart. I doubt many have any concept of how actual economies work. The funding that NASA receives is unironically such tremendous value to the US economy that it's not even a question as to its worth or value. The independent commission that published an extensive and detailed financial impact report a couple of years ago makes that quite clear. Something like for every tax dollar in funding that NASA receives around $18 is generated in the economy...ancillary services, goods, logistics, materials and many, many more industries and businesses benefit...it literally generates work for tens of thousands of people (around 340k jobs indirectly supported I think the number was) that then use those wages they've earned from working those jobs to not only support their own families...but also spend that money back in the economy. When some fool complains about 'blah, blah, blah but $3B blub blub blub' it's quite obvious they don't really have any idea on how actual economics work.
@@vallejomach6721 As much as I get what that guy was saying about money should be spent on the homeless, veterans and mental health especially The us government spends WAY more on military spending (near a trillion) than everything else Maybe he brought it up , but that would made way more sense than bringing up the millions spent on NASA
I have not been to space (obviously), but I've spent time in research stations and on research vessels. This is usually hard work but people need some fun so I did participate in singing, gaming and other silly ways to spend time with other people, even on dry (no alcohol) stations or ships. I wonder what would the flat earthers do if they were to spend a month or more in a crowded space?
And of course these goofing off bits are made very specifically for people on Earth as part of the undertaking of making everyone, kids especially, realize that the people on the ISS are, exceptional qualifications aside, people like all the rest of us. Well, maybe not like Dave Weiss. No one wants to be like Dave Weiss.
I continue to be baffled by how they can deny the simplest explanations and proof it's round, but what if we could somehow actually send them into space. How in the world could they possibly not believe it's round then?
David Weis at 6:30 “they have five B2 bombers”… imagine the cost of that racket. The cost of the coverup would exceed the actual cost of the ISS. Seriously thought the flat earthers would still be looking for all the pieces after Professor Dave obliterated him.
He clearly thinks stealth means invisible. I presume he picked a B2 because it’s big and he can pretend it’s large enough to have his picture of the station on the bottom of it. Of course 5 is hardly enough to cover the transits in the USA and have it work. Like the rest of them the concept of size and scale is beyond him.
reminds me of flattard "tom bishop", who claimed that the Space Shuttles never went into orbit, instead they turned completely invisible and made a VERTICAL landing on an aircraft carrier!
@@randy5606 I love that one idiot who said "I'm allowed to film here" who was actually trespassing which was edited out of the clip You can hear the employee tell him he's trespassing which he was and you need a release of approval contract to film at a governmental facility It has nothing to do with the government "hiding the truth" from us
Man, I missed that yodelling stuff! Flerfs always omit things that easily destroy their claims. Also, I'm really excited about you debunking Matt Walsh. Can't wait to see it!
5:02 And they’ve even photographed it with the solar panels at different angles, facing the sun (as opposed to the other flat earther comment that it’s a plane with stuff stick to it…).
As a big fan of conspiracies, it's like the gym for the mind to me but they're meant to be fun and I view conspiracies like scuba diving the deeper you go the more decompression stops you need, it gets to a point when it's not safe and will suffer the bends. Down feels like up, up feels like down and simple tasks become difficult. I prefer snorkeling, it's all done on the surface and you still get to see everything but are not at risk. That's how I view conspiracies anyway.
Love it how the guy outside the balloon place doesn't want to say that he's there making a documentary about nasa helium conspiracies but says he's talking about "balloon launches". Saying it on a video is one thing, admitting to it in public shows where his truth lies.
And worse: they kept it in the video! Although that may be explained later. I guess they’ll try to say that they were forced to leave therefore NASA oppresses them, or something…
To the average person the distance to the sun is just not that important, that is why so many people don't remember it. I wonder if that guy could tell me what the wheelbase of his car is, because that number is equally unimportant to most people.
Sure, but any average person who listens to They Might Be Giants knows that "the sun is a mass of incandescent gas...about 93 million miles away, and that's why it looks so small!" Just one more question for the flerfs: are John F and John L on the NASA payroll too? Scandalous!
Or the number of transistors in the chip running their phone. Basically they claim gotchas with people when they have all these things in front of them with a script or cheat sheet.
Of course what that idiot was yapping about (in a voice that sounds like someone wire brushed his vocal cords) is that fact that lots of people don't happen to know the specific numeric values for assorted things like the radius of Earth. Big deal! These are things that can instantly be looked up these days. It's handy to remember them if you regularly need them for some reason, but otherwise they're largely just skull litter. I wonder if that dolt can recite Avogadro's constant or the number of electrons in a coulomb.
Translation, they haven’t memorized it like me or have a scripted cheat sheet so they don’t know it. Basically he’s playing on the fact that most people don’t have these numbers and facts memorized to be able to recall them in an instance. You can go look these things up but guys like Weiss refuse to let someone do that.
Dave McKeegan reported that in order to get the same brightness from the sun as from the ISS he had to use a difference of 20 stops (iirc). 20 stops is 2^20, which is very close to one million. I think types like Weiss are just too stupid to realize that something in the night sky that was really as bright as the sun would be very unpleasant to look at, cause major "flare" if you pointed a camera at it without knowing what you were doing and would be so conspicuous that anyone who had ever been outdoors between dusk and dawn would have noticed it many times.
Just think, in 50 or so years time, when we have people regularly visiting the established Moon bases as tourist holiday destinations, these "Flat Earth Documentaries" will be playing on the in flight comedy channel...
@@BMW_329 You are way too optimistic. There are people who refuse to believe to believe in Australia. There are also people who deny the existence of Austria on the basis that they confuse it with Australia.
I sure do hope there's a humanity left in 50 years to reach for the stars... Things aren't looking too bright right now and with these (and similar) nutjobs denying every bit of scientific evidence that odesn't agree with them I'm not sure we will recover.
@@TransitionedToAShark The astronauts do it, as seen in the video. They know what they are doing and probably don't leave water droplets floating around everywhere...
I so viscerally want to get elected to some sort of board just for the chance of having one of these folks show up. Professionalism be damned, I'd sit there and laugh in their face the whole time. Also can we appreciate how the guy filming the research station lied? "What are you doing?" "Filming a documentary about weather balloons." If you were so sure about your "model" why would you be scared/nervous/ashamed to say "I'm filming a part for a flat earth documentary"? It's because you know this guy would laugh in your face.
'ISS B2 Bombers'.. "Two of them are in Alaska, I forget where the other one is..." He's talking to a NASA whistle blower, yet he didn't bother writing down every single bit of information he had to share here and everywhere. 😄
As a citizen of a country from the former communist camp, the level of ignorance of some Americans amazes me. It is beyond my comprehension how these people live alongside some of the most enlightened minds in the world. Incredible....
I don't think the U.S. has a monopoly on stupid, but we do have a special knack for getting behind cults, crackpot religious movements, bullshit conspiracy theories and so on. I'm convinced that a high percentage of flerfers don't actually believe the crap they spew, but they are inherently lazy or have unrequited aspirations of scientific greatness, (without the intellectual firepower to pull it off), or some combination of the two. Others are motivated by religious ideas, (I hesitate to call them "convictions"), and are avoiding crashing their arguments by admitting it's just about Jesus. What I am more curious about is; Who do they believe their audience to be? I grew up and grew old in this country. I worked as a Psychiatric Technician in a maximum security mental institution. I've witnessed some shit. I am still surprised by the level of intellectual contempt that pervades these doofae, (which I hope is the plural of doofus), and their stubborn inability or unwillingness, to accept testable science.
Plus, it's the INTERNATIONAL Space Station. So sure, NASA is heavily involved in it, but also the Esa and Roscosmos(and certainly other space agencies). So you're telling me there is a worldwide conspiracy, between world governments, that can't even exist together in peace? I mean... Don't you think the Russian would have debunked the moon landing by now?
Haha, the guy standing before a commission after rolling out his crackpot conspiracy accusations: "Now, I know what you're all thinking; I'm just a county commisioner". I bet that's not what they're thinking at that point.
Whistle-blower? He spoke with a coach of a NASA employee sports team, who is not an actual NASA employee. _"Yeah, I've got a whistle, and sometimes I blow it. So I guess you could say I'm a NASA whistle-blower. "_
Someone should ask those guys why an agency that has invested an incalculable amount of money and effort into a scam in which every country in the world is a partner hasn't simply killed them, and record their reaction.
And i agree with him. I do think Nasa is too big. They went to the moon. They launched satelites. More money needs to go to fighting poverty and having better education.
It's so cute to me how they hear "NASA buys helium" and think "PROOF! BALLOONS!" I don't think they understand helium isn't solely used for floating balloons 😆
The guy filming at the Columbia NASA research center is committing a crime its why the employee in the truck was questioning him He has to get permission to film there ...
While Dan is not guilty of this, there are a lot of people on the web that are mistaking gathering of data with actual research. There is a lot more to research than just gathering data and then letting the opinion with the most data, be it ambiguous or not, win. That is just not research. You have to have the right tools to actually do something with that information after you gather it and you must use those tools correctly in order to be justified in calling it research.
You do not need to know much or need much research to demonstrate flat earth cannot work. With 2 values, distance north pole to equator and height of sun over the equator at equator equinox. On that day on the equator the sun rises DEMONSTRABLY from due east vertically up, is in zenith at noon and sinks vertically and sets due west. No matter which values flat earthers would give me, I can show the geometry does not work out. Not needing more than basic geometry And the ability to apply it, apply geometry, simple math and basic physics to analyze, describe and SOLVE a problem. Unless you postulate special physics where light has characteristics that depend on at least a dozen variable, local parameters. Therefore no flat earther will EVER give you ANY concrete numbers. Therefore flat earthers are more and more resorting to call themselves "globe sceptics", because they KNOW they can NEVER talk about their truth without being crushed instantly. The problem is that the "researchers" are 95% occupied with their productive work in their field, and so do not know the word games and insane arguments of flatlings and then look bad. You need outright training in the handling of flat earth "arguments" to identify the trick and have the right response. What I keep in the back of my head is: Is the whole flat earth debate a scam? Is it a "conspiracy"? Do flat earthers and flat earth debunkers conspire to make an entertaining show, that keeps both in the center of attention and makes enough money for their living? But there is no exact answer for that. It is neither the one nor the other completely.
One word only: planets Explain how planets can be observed with your own telescope to be round (eaven see their rotation over a time lap of about a few hours for the faster rotating planets) and how they stay up there. I am not calling you a flat earter, but populat flat earther claimed that galaxies and nebulas are not real, while in the mean time i can take a photo of them with my phone ! The milky can be see to have a particular shape which depending on where you are you see the milky way differently wrap around the sky while it's movement across winter night can only be explained with a globe earth ! Space is real. The orion nebula, Andromeda galaxy are real (as i saw them my self) and they are just beautiful !
I'm amazed these flat earth grifters can find anyone to believe their trash. No scientific theories on how a flat earth works. Just stupid conjectures that easily fail observable facts, e.g. the angular size of the sun not changing.
Minor clarification at 11:00. That's _Gemini 4_ astronaut Ed White performing the first American spacewalk. Sadly, he died in the Apollo 1 fire along with Vitgil "Gus" Grissom and Roger Chaffee. Both those events were well documented in the 1960s, long before CGI and "Photoshop" were around.
Is that really authentic footage? Because that was the one part I just pointed out to Dan as CGI, because the astronaut is moving in a really "key-framed" way. Is there a source for the original? Edit: Just looked at it again: This can't be real. Unless the astronaut is giving us his best "robot dance".
I just looked at the original footage of Ed White. This is not it. The original stuff is also way shakier and has less resolution. My best guess is: Somebody recreated it - probably for a TV documentary. The question now is: Did the flerfs fall for it themselves and were right once in a blue moon? Or did they put it in on purpose to have a "gotcha!" moment with Dan?
Mystery solved: Another user pointed me to the "original" v=EnX24ifFuac which is an up-res and interpolated version of the footage from 1965. Now it's clear what is happening: They used some wonky image interpolation and upres and it is doing strange stuff to the motion. If you watch this version, the small parts (the instrument he is handling in the beginning, the safety (?) line) doing really strange things due to the algorhythm. So it is "kinda" CGI, but based on real film stock.
I think the frame rate of the original footage was lower, as I recall seeing it decades ago. Playing it back at "normal" rates gives you a faster, "jerkier" movement. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to see that processed into something like the clip we saw. The maneuvering gun (pressurized nitrogen, if I recall) and life support umbilical movements look correct if we take that into account.
Wouldn't that be cool if they actually investigate nasa? Like a tax payer sponsored tour, they can bring their kids, cameras, make a whole day out of it.
"Why use a baloons if there is space and satellites" sounds like interesting question, but not in the way flat-earthers usually think. Answer may be similar to answer for "why ride a car if there are airplanes and helicopters".
Just had a look at the so called documentary on his channel and the amount of stupid saying how awesome it is and how it should be taught in schools is scary. Very depressing to see how much stupid there is out there and these people actually walk among us.
It’s especially scary when you remember how many of them have drivers licenses or may (at least in the US) own firearms. I think I should buy a helmet…
They're a dying breed. Think of it as natural selection - stupid, undateable people. Channels like this help prevent others who may be on the fence from ever getting wrapped up in it. Although I do feel sorry for the kids of those who did manage to attract a mate.
The FE way of thinking is "I no understand so it not real and is lies. Earth is flat cuz i dont feel space wind blowing me at 1000's mph. That all proof needed forever. I win, NASA lose cuz they dummy's"
At 6:15 the guy is complaining about the ISS, "Is it made of mirrors?" I wish we still had Iridium flares happening! Iridium communication satellites had highly reflective panels and had to maintain a specific orientation, so there were web sites that could predict when and where you would see a satellite brightly flare up for a few seconds as the panels directly reflected the sunlight right at you. If I recall correctly, they could reach -2 magnitude for nearly 10 seconds if you were positioned in exactly the right spot. They were great to point out at star parties!
It reminds me of Milo (Minute man) mocking Tiktok conspiracy theorists when they constantly refer to this "Guy in the government told me" in every one of their videos
The thing that still bothers me the most is not even them discrediting the word of NASA and private people, but rather the fact it all ALWAYS) boils down to: My head cannot comprehend this is possible/works like what they say, so it MUST be fake. Ignorance is one thing, but this is just straight up stupidity. And that's what makes it so infuriating to hear them talk with such confidence. You cannot educate someone that simply doesn't have the mental capacity for it. 🥲
I was chatting with my daughter as to how unbelievable it is that in 2023 there are still people who think the earth is flat!!!! LIKE SERIOUSLY THEY THINK THE EARTH IS FLAT!!! She reminded me that these people are full of hate. They believe in conspiracy theories and have beliefs in the lies and misinformation on the internet. I feel very sorry for these people. They are pitiful .They are missing the bigger picture. There really are problems in our world but being flat isn’t one of them 🌎🌍🌏
I do like how Dan touches on the lack of trustworthy sources. Obviously flat earth and other stuff is nonsense but I can see how people have issues in this day and age with so much conflicting information.
What's happened is right wingers worldwide have been telling people to don't trust the media (except right wing media) for years now, then trump came along and ramped it up too 110 in America.
14:17 As an amateur radio operator, I can assure you satellites are real. You can relay communication through them. Just like you can communicate over Ham bands to ISS. You can also use Doppler effect and triangulation to calculate distance, speed and direction of travel. In fact you have to account for this as the frequency changes as it passes overhead. All the math is basic high school level. The existence of balloons doesn’t preclude the existence of satellites just like the existence of horses does not preclude the existence of cars.
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Nice to watch always, but aside of flatearthers, can you do some videos about Mars? How is possible that xenon 129 is found on mars or why did nasa filtered photos and made us believe mars is red/orange, and it is not? All i know is what i can get from the internet. But you are the scientific source i am able to trust so, if you can, give your opinion on things about Mars, for xenon at least. cheers and success
Grrrr, wtf is going on in USA? Conspiracy madness might be the of end of the democracy.
@@osgubbenThat's the problem with democracy. Even idiots have the right to vote. Should have been an IQ test first....
Wat ontkracht je eigenlijk scimandan? In mijn ogen niks .kinderachtig kom je over .jij probeerd mensen tegen elkaar op te hitsen. Ik laat het hier maar bij want ik maak me er kwaad om en dat is precies waar jij opuit bent
@@PeterVriesDeHij hitst mensen niet tegen elkaar op,hij debunkt de leugens van de sceptici.
Mag dat niet?
Showed up for stupid, stayed for Dan... Love ya big bro
I had no idea you felt that way. Ohh, you mean the other guy. Well I still appreciate you dude.
Love you'r vids to bro!!🙏👍🇫🇮
Being skeptical and analytical about three things, does not make you a skeptic. It makes you biased, and willing to express your bias.
@@danieldemayo6209 damn, daniel
👀ABS
"I was in communication with a NASA whistleblower..."
Translation
"I was in communication with a guy who thought it would be great fun to mess with a stupid flat Earther and see how much 'stupid' they would be happily accept..."
Alternative translation:
I just made it up , and with no evidence required, no-one will know any different.
He should see if he can get one of them to dress up like a duck. Wait... that's been done.
Alt: I’ve just made this up. I have no proof. No one will ask me about it.
"I was in communication with a NASA whistleblower, and bought the drinks."
Alternate: It was a real NASA whistle.
TEN Rules of flerfing :
1) Strawman the globe model in a desperate bid to manufacture a "gotcha".
2) NEVER, under any circumstances, talk about your positive claim that the earth is FLAT.
3) If pushed to do the above, pretend that you "claim nothing".
4) Learn to articulate the sounds “nu” and “huh” together in quick succession and use it whenever you need to deny reality (i.e, often).
5) Pre-emptively reject the answers to every question you ask.
6) Cherry pick parts of quotes that you think might help you, whilst pretending the rest never happened.
7) Perform a ‘flerf reset’ every morning, conveniently forgetting everything that was said to you the previous day.
8) Ignore the fact that, despite more than 10 years of social media flerfing, flat earth has advanced about as far as an asthmatic Ant with particularly heavy shopping.
9) Lie.
10) Lie more.
Asthmatic ant with particularly heavy shopping is a new one, but I love it
Love number 8.
@@SamanthaLaurier I stole it from Blackadder Goes Forth. He was talking about how far the front line had advanced in WW1.
Flerfers would make great politicians 😆
Number 7 is my fave.
“Why are they playing around when they could die any second?”
Why are we all playing around when we could ALL die any second? 🤣
I mean, it's not like they could do anything about it if it was about to happen.. might as well go out having fun!
@@paulslund1 Absolutely! Nobody escapes this place alive.
What should they be doing, floating around like headless chickens?
Because, living life to it's fullest is fun
"Why do we have balloons up there instead of satellites" is a bit like asking "why do we have motorbikes when we have cars". And if they seriously cannot think of any reasons for themselves why the balloons are useful then it proves they aren't even trying to think beyond their own first assumptions.
I would say it is more like "Why do we have motorbikes when we have boats". Balloons can work inside the atmosphere and that only up to a certain point as they need to be on average less dense then the surroundings to experience enough buoyancy, while satellites need to be in as good a vacuum as they can be to not experience too much drag and fall down quickly.
The highest balloons can go is around 50 km - orbital velocity would be around mach 20 - that thing will not last.
In comparison the ISS is already at a very low orbit of ~400km and loses altitude quickly ( i think from its highest orbit it was still sub 2 years for crashing without any boost)
Might a better analogy to say why do we have ships when we have barges and tugs.
The ones making this movie are grifters and con men. It doesnt matter that it doesnt make sense because their target audience is looking for confirmation bias and not thinking for themselves.
Why do we have Aircraft instead of Balloons? Why do we have Cars instead of Aircraft? Why do we have Push Bikes instead of Cars? Equally hard hitting questions, lol
Why do we have flattards instead of nothing?
So we cant take an astronaut seriously because he is playing a guitar but a guy with a hat on backwards is the source of all knowledge....
yeah which apparently includes not checking the NASA TV schedule with all their ISS education outreach events with schools and colleges (hence all the party tricks and goofing around and answering questions from kids of all ages). Or the many astronaut interviews were they talk about the free time built into their hectic work schedule to do whatever they want like hanging out in the cuppola.
Also, NASA's images of balloons, ISS water tank etc are sufficient to prove they exist, but NASA's images of anything in/from space are faked. If you believe NASA is the most prolific faker of images on the planet, why would you use any of their images? Oh, wait, because some support your pre-existing view ...
A guy with his hat on backwards...in the sunshine...squinting his eyes...
@@MadMaz1983 If only someone would invent some kind of apparatus that could be worn on your head that could help shield his eyes from the Sun... We can only dream...
@@MadMaz1983 You believe in sunshine??? You think light just hits your eyes?? That's the same stuff lasers are made out of! You'd go blind!! I swear, you lightists just don't think about these things.
“I’ve been in contact with a NASA Whistleblower.”
I’ll take ‘things that never happened’ for $300 please Dave.
Yes it's a classic proof surrogate.
Personally, I think he was scammed by someone out to make a quick buck. It's pretty easy to scam someone if you want to convince them from something they already 'know'.
“I’ve been in touch with a NASA whistleblower” translates to, “I met this drunk guy in a bar”…
Odds are there was a whistleblower” but rather than shut the flat earth bullhorn down, the person just agreed to take the mick out of him 😂😂😂
They always "know" someone from "the inside"
Imagine being so blindly confident to go and stand in front of a commission demanding they open an investigation into NASA 😂🤦🏻♂️
I agree with it. Absolute hoaxers. And give ball earth a bad name
Mind blowing the stupidity at play! I bet they all had a very good laugh at that guys expense! I know I did and a little cringe! What a moron!
But I have to take him serious, he is wearing a tie 🤔
The funniest thing about this is not his ludicrous complaint, but where he is making that complaint. He's not in front of some high powered government commission which is in a position to do anything even remotely like what he is demanding, he's basically up in front of a local council where you can complain about the street lights not working on your road, or your rubbish bins not being emptied properly and stuff like that. This is akin to me me going to an Accrington Town Council meeting and demanding they immediately send a team to investigate the possibility of biological weapons of mass destruction in North Korea.
Even more so when it's a local county commission, not even state, let alone federal.
Flat earthers not realizing that astronauts are allowed to have some fun is mind-boggling…
It kind of makes sense. None of them have ever held an actual high-stress or demanding job (what with mostly living in their moms' basements), so they're completely incapable of grasping how someone in such a position could possibly be able to relax or unwind.
@@frocat5163 It’s not that they are allowed to have fun. It’s that they think they are being mocked and take the silliness as a dig against them.
I guess they’ve never seen off action firefighters. Seeing that unless they have a call they are doing things to pass the time at the fire station.
@@Isolder74 If flerfing morons believe off-duty astronauts are engaging in hobbies specifically to mock flerfing idiots, then said idiots are even less intelligent than they seem. And far more arrogant. Literally no one stationed on the ISS spares a moment of thought for flerfs.
It kind of makes sense from there perspective, since they think these are actors that just go there for the camera, so why would they play a guitar, thats boring. In reality the astronauts are there for multiple days and have some time to kill.
@@Isolder74 That's schitzo behavior. I worked in a home for mentally ill people of various types, one of the clients with schizophrenia kept complaining to me that the people on the radio/tv/parked cars were judging and mocking her. Although at least she had the valid excuse of being genuinely schizophrenic...
Two can play the "Whistleblower" game. How about this? I spoke to a Flat Earther Whistleblower the other day and he told me that at their last secret convention, all the Flat Earthers in the room said they realized the Earth was round, but pushing Flat Earth stuff was getting them a lot of attention and they liked being able to make some money off of it.
Pretty amazing stuff, right?!
Wouldn't it be funny if that "whistleblower" wasn't his own invention, but it's an actual person who wanted to troll him and make fun of him?
🤫😇😉
It's been known, and the claim Weiss made was so utterly ridiculous that either he was lying or someone was definitely taking the piss out of him.
I am sure that is what happened. It is very funny but not helpful given that Dave Weiss is so gullable.
I was thinking just that - someone in NASA is so p*ssed at these guys they feed them the most ridiculous lines whilst claiming to be a whistleblower
Wouldn't be the first time. I've seen "chemtrail" believers unironically use cockpit photos where pilots have stuck a "chemtrails on" sticker on a switch as evidence of chemtrails.
Had a recent chat with a Flerfer, I was really interested to know what it would look like. But all he could say was how globe earth is wrong, he had no idea what a flat earth would actually look like! I asked what would be underneath the flat, he said "why would there be an underneath?" Having no understanding of 3D objects having a bottom side. We talked about a lot of other things and was then accused of working for NASA (even though we are both British).
Funniest conversation ever.
How did you resist punching him in the face?
@@SextusHempiryk Because he's not Buzz Aldrin😂
That's always a killer argument when talking to a conspiracy theorist -"What is _your_ explanation then?"
For example, global warming. Ask why the Earth is warming and they'll try to tell you it isn't, and all of Earth thermometers have deliberately been placed in places that are warm to give false readings.
WTC 7 is another one. Why do they think it fell down? Well of course, as part of the world's most perfectly executed conspiracy, the team behind it decided to set up demolition charges on another building that wasn't hit by the plane. In order to... uhh... why would they do that again?
It's a standard case of "give 'em enough rope..." which of course is in reality why 95% of the time you don't get a response at all.
That's always a killer argument when talking to a conspiracy theorist -"What is your explanation then?"
Works really well with 9/11 or global warming conspiracy theorists. Their arguments are always so pathetically weak.
Its "Elephants all the way down", or so I heard 🙂
I have a new name for flerfs, we should start calling them the flat pack. Due to the fact all flat packs come with a few screws missing.
Could you imagine what flat earthers could accomplish if they all put all their energy into something useful? I mean, their collective intellectual power could light a bulb for 3, maybe 4 seconds!
Many of them are also climate deniers so they wouldn't even see the benefit of the application of their collective 3-4 seconds of energy : )
Oof, you give them too much credit 😂
Could you image what globalists could accomplished if they all put all their energy into something instead of believeing everything. Your collective intellectual could make a dumb mf look smart and yall some dumb mf😂😂😂
that's too generous
For context, the planes Dave mentioned:
Proteus: 504 km/h
U2: 805 km/h
B2: 1,010 km/h
Rutan Voyager: took 9 days to circumnavigate earth.
...
Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird holds the official Air Speed Record for a manned airbreathing jet engine aircraft with a speed of 3,530 km/h
North American X-15 set the official world record for the highest speed ever recorded by a crewed, powered aircraft, 10,870 km/h, which remains unbroken.
At this speed, it would take it 3.6 hrs to circle the earth, and this is well into experimental/rocket propulsion territory.
ISS: 28,000 km/h
Circles earth every 90 minutes (1.5 hrs), with no indication of propulsion at all.
(That's because it's in orbit, so it doesn't require propulsion).
do you work in engineering? (Not sarcastic, serious question). Because, if all of that is true, that's quite an interesting collection of stats and I'm genuinely impressed. Either you're an engineer, or you love studying these facts. Either way, Good job with the stats.
@@MasterOfViewership ☺
Nah, I'm just a normal dude that decided to Google all the info.
😁👍
The ISS actually does have thrusters on it because over time the orbit will decay.
not a single picture of a plane they showed is a B2 bomber.
I love how flat earthers talk about the government lying but use government clips to prove its flat, or the say Neil is a government shill but use his they couldn’t see the curve to prove its flat
They really do not notice this behaviour at all. They really love cherry picking.
Not only that, but try and use a public NASA budget to show that helium is being used to fake satellites like we couldn't just, you know, not itemize correctly the items to give away the dastardly plan. The government is all powerful and deceitful when they want it to be and incompetent and useless when they need that as well. Mind blowing stuff.
Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
@@overcomingobstaclescreates1695 Confirmation Bias at its very best.
They seem to think everyone is a flat earther but most are"lying" and saying it's a ball. Oh dear o dear!
OK Dan, I'm a Florida native and as such I feel you should have put a trigger warning up before playing that video of the Brevard county man petitioning the city council to investigate NASA. I almost die from second hand embarrassment every time I see that clip.
Flat earthers have such an open mind that their brain fell out
I’d like to believe they were born without brains
Open mind and plugged ears are mutually exclusive.
@@TheRenofox
I can't believe that guy is really complaining that they're playing around and having fun , is he seriously saying that they shouldn't relax and enjoy themselves??
Is he really that deranged?
At least they can find a nice "BWAAAAM!!!!" sound effect.
Their brain fell out ? Did they ever HAD a brain ?
That clown appearing before the Brevard County Board was just absolutely hilarious. I wonder how they kept straight faces while he was speaking.
They probably hear stupid crap all the time. Every community has at least that one person that complains about everything. They were probably zoned out and thinking about what to make for dinner.
@@clee8768
NASA gets 3 billion per year
Military funding gets near a trillion per year
One benefits all mankind
One kills for profit
Yea flat earthers , lets complain about the one that doesn't kill people for profit
It’s unreal isn’t it. Put on his suit and everything😂 the c*nt probably bought a briefcase for the event too.
They don’t believe in the photos taken of the ISS but are happy to gobble up photos taken of balloons as proof the ISS doesn’t exist? 💀
Don't forget that they have a replica of non-existent ISS in a swimming pool loaded with CGEye and harness.
@@XtreeM_FaiLNice nod to Creaky Blinder. :D
You know how flat earthers love the shuttle explosion? I have a theory that it never exploded, and flat earthers made it up to discredit NASA! After all, if the shuttle program only ended in 2011, what were they flying for years after the explosion? Checkmate flerfs!
So u saying my profile picture is real what happen to the sun moon and stars
@@FlatEarth-q1fThat is probably CGI, but Earth is still a sphere like shape. Look up a model for sun, moon, and stars. It is a lot simpler, more conducing to physics, and more intuitive than if the planet was flat.
"Change the record"
Flat Earthers strike me as the type of people to drop hundreds of dollars everytime a new Ipod hits stores, only to continue downloading the same 3 or 4 songs
How do you maintain sanity, Dan? They drive me crazy just watching you debunk. Thank you, and all the other debunkers (catz, creaky...) for taking on the task lol
Instead of a "NASA whistleblower," Dave should have gotten a deathbed confession. A B-2 bomber is a flying wing design. It looks nothing like what he showed.
Yeah, but that wouldn't have fitted the narrative.... I reckon they thought the 281 Proteus looked more like the ISS.
LOL they did show a couple pictures of a U-2 so I have to give them a small amount of credit for some type of research.
Yeah, that's the ER-2 he's showing, a U-2 variant in use by NASA, so basically all he got right about the plane was "NASA" and the digit "2"
Good call.
Noting that all aircraft have finite endurance, I,m at a loss as to the lack of aerial refuelling pics of these mythical B2s or any imagery captured during shift change when there should be TWO statiions visible
And they fail to describe how nobody has ever seen the B-2/U2/Proteus take off and land for these fly-bys of the ISS, in the UK, and Europe, and Australia, and ...
Repeating statements may make you think, they are a lie, but may I remember: "CC Chris from Westchester County New York" and latest Mark Sargent "if there is a curve, take a picture of, put on your screen,... I will quit FE tomorrow"...
If its as bright as the sun then the real story is how does NASA still manage to keep the sky dark like its night??
I can read by sunlight.
Remember, this _is_ coming from the idiot that said daylight doesn't come from the Sun. I think he's just confused by light, period!
A SciManDan video, on my birthday!
Good to see you debunk these clowns.
I love how they can't believe that the invisible attraction between 2 massive object is due to gravity but when it comes to magnetism which is a similarly invisible force which also acts in all directions between two magnetic objects, I've never seen one of them question it. Just shows they can't understand the true scale of thing due to gravity being a lot weaker.
Magnetism doesn’t bunk their model, such as they have, whereas gravity definitely does. It’s a bit like them using certain scientific experiments which confirm their model but ignoring those which blow it out of the water. Or showing parts of NASA videos which seem to support their position whilst overlooking entire videos which prove the globe. Now, if only there was a term to describe this, you know, ooh, maybe something to do with selecting fruit…
@@lidbass Yes they cherry pick clips but then if you watch the entire original video you find out that their wires aren’t going to work with what happens. They are always lying about something.
@@Isolder74 Lying, or in some cases genuinely not understanding the physics. But often lying. Frequently lying. Mostly lying.
The other thing they do that isn’t _technically_ lying is just having incorrect expectations due to ignorance. This is most noticeable when it comes to the behavior of light, optics, and cameras.
@@joeschmo3844 ignorance is bliss. Especially when over estimating your own IQ and deductive reasoning skills.
I'm fascinated by the "NASA Whistle blower".
I think the flat earthers need to check that person's credentials.
I bet it was some random Dave from facebook who smokes a lot of pot while listening to Joe Rogan and uses word "sheeple" a lot - a guy who thinks he knows what's up
Giving him the benefit of a doubt, he believed them because they said something he wanted to hear.
But realistically, he pulled that one entirely out of his own ass.
@@TheRenofox Yes a classic proof surrogate. He’s just being lazy now.
If the person's credentials do not check out, it is actually PROOF that he is who he claims. NASA deleted his information to discredit him! Those sneaky guys!
He had one of those ID badges you clip on your belt. It was laminated and everything!
This is, without a doubt, one of my favorite channels! Great content by a great guy! Keep mopping these goofballs up with facts!!
He’s so interesting !
😂😂😂😂😂that man can't mop even if I gave him one to do it all of yall are pseudoscience just like to guess shyt without proving any facts
One small correction Dan: The spacewalk footage was not Mercury, but Gemini.
With the one-person Mercury they did not leave the capsule. Only when they had Gemini with two astronauts did they do that.
Mercury was not designed to be left in orbit, and also for safety reasons they did it only when a second astronaut was there who could rescue the other in case of an emergency.
Ed White. Gemini 4.
Yes. Definitely not a stop motion figure.
Agreed, Gemini IV in June 1965, but lest we not forget that NASA was repeatedly coming in 2nd place in this 'race for space' as Alexei Leonov was the first human to spacewalk 3 months earlier during Voskhod 2.
I didn't realise that Leonov commanded the Soyuz capsule in the Apollo-Soyuz mission in 1975, which docked in space for two days with an American Apollo capsule.
The flerfs never mention the Russians do they? They never call the Soviet space program a massive hoax do they? I wonder why?
Yep. I was around then. I was a bit too young to follow the Mercury program but I do remember the Gemini program quite well.
@@kernicterus1233they never mention any of the other countries space programs. If u notice they think the world is America so dumb.i mean what are they gonna say when China set foot on the moon
So you have to spend every minute of every day on missions that last for months not having fun? It all has to be non-stop work? I think anyone would go completely crazy.
They can’t even be bothered to try and poke holes in any of that space footage. They just assume that the audience also wants so badly for it to be fake that they will convince themselves it looked fake.
The video of Starship landing at 12:00, an event that anyone could literally go watch in person (with thousands of people doing just that) being included in their little montage is my personal favorite.
If I worked for NASA, I’d defo feed these guys some amazing lies
Would be a great side hobby
Pretty sure you could just claim to be a former NASA employee and they would buy everything you say if it fit their narrative.
Try another approach.
You are working for SASA the Sercret Aeronautics and Space Agency.
😈
You don't need to work there, you just have to say something they want to hear and they'll believe you even if you were fixing their sink.
@@rudolfgernd8760 How about SASSY - Secret Aeronautics and Space Shuttle chain Yankers?
just love they always claim to have an open mind. yet theirs really is closed when any evidense is shown to them
🙈🙉🙊
They presumably don't object to nearly a trillion dollars a year, totally unaudited on defense. More than the next 9 countries added together.
Flatties are not smart. I doubt many have any concept of how actual economies work. The funding that NASA receives is unironically such tremendous value to the US economy that it's not even a question as to its worth or value. The independent commission that published an extensive and detailed financial impact report a couple of years ago makes that quite clear. Something like for every tax dollar in funding that NASA receives around $18 is generated in the economy...ancillary services, goods, logistics, materials and many, many more industries and businesses benefit...it literally generates work for tens of thousands of people (around 340k jobs indirectly supported I think the number was) that then use those wages they've earned from working those jobs to not only support their own families...but also spend that money back in the economy. When some fool complains about 'blah, blah, blah but $3B blub blub blub' it's quite obvious they don't really have any idea on how actual economics work.
@@vallejomach6721
As much as I get what that guy was saying about money should be spent on the homeless, veterans and mental health especially
The us government spends WAY more on military spending (near a trillion) than everything else
Maybe he brought it up , but that would made way more sense than bringing up the millions spent on NASA
I have not been to space (obviously), but I've spent time in research stations and on research vessels. This is usually hard work but people need some fun so I did participate in singing, gaming and other silly ways to spend time with other people, even on dry (no alcohol) stations or ships. I wonder what would the flat earthers do if they were to spend a month or more in a crowded space?
And of course these goofing off bits are made very specifically for people on Earth as part of the undertaking of making everyone, kids especially, realize that the people on the ISS are, exceptional qualifications aside, people like all the rest of us. Well, maybe not like Dave Weiss. No one wants to be like Dave Weiss.
I continue to be baffled by how they can deny the simplest explanations and proof it's round, but what if we could somehow actually send them into space. How in the world could they possibly not believe it's round then?
Well I'm just flabbergasted at being this early for a Sciman upload. It must somehow be related to living on a globe. I have no doubt about that.
David Weis at 6:30 “they have five B2 bombers”… imagine the cost of that racket. The cost of the coverup would exceed the actual cost of the ISS. Seriously thought the flat earthers would still be looking for all the pieces after Professor Dave obliterated him.
He clearly thinks stealth means invisible. I presume he picked a B2 because it’s big and he can pretend it’s large enough to have his picture of the station on the bottom of it. Of course 5 is hardly enough to cover the transits in the USA and have it work. Like the rest of them the concept of size and scale is beyond him.
reminds me of flattard "tom bishop", who claimed that the Space Shuttles never went into orbit, instead they turned completely invisible and made a VERTICAL landing on an aircraft carrier!
Imagine the difficulty in getting these aircraft to exactly the right place at exactly the right time.
Professor Dave insulting him and Flefer Dave getting triggered throughout was chef's kiss
I work in aerospace so I'm hoping NASA can get more to us. It's fun seeing the product and knowing I played a part in it
But these flerfs reckon your product is just being dumped in the ocean, and you don't know about it. Lol.
@@clivedavis6859 yeah oh well
@@clivedavis6859it probably is. Only spy and weather satellites orbit earth
Tell the flerfs it all goes airfreight!
@@randy5606
I love that one idiot who said "I'm allowed to film here" who was actually trespassing which was edited out of the clip
You can hear the employee tell him he's trespassing which he was and you need a release of approval contract to film at a governmental facility
It has nothing to do with the government "hiding the truth" from us
I was hoping for a montage of ISS sightings and you did not disappoint, Dan! 😂 I love these documentary debunks.
Man, I missed that yodelling stuff! Flerfs always omit things that easily destroy their claims.
Also, I'm really excited about you debunking Matt Walsh. Can't wait to see it!
If flatties wouldn't get money or attention, they wouldn't be flatties.
5:02 And they’ve even photographed it with the solar panels at different angles, facing the sun (as opposed to the other flat earther comment that it’s a plane with stuff stick to it…).
As a big fan of conspiracies, it's like the gym for the mind to me but they're meant to be fun and I view conspiracies like scuba diving the deeper you go the more decompression stops you need, it gets to a point when it's not safe and will suffer the bends. Down feels like up, up feels like down and simple tasks become difficult. I prefer snorkeling, it's all done on the surface and you still get to see everything but are not at risk. That's how I view conspiracies anyway.
Idiot at council meeting: "I know what you're thinking..."
Council members: "Clearly we need to spend more on education."
@6:25 Yeah Dave we all believe you were in communication with a "NASA whistleblower" as they say, You gotta lie to Flerf.
I'm sure he talked to someone online who claimed to be a rocket scientist.
It’s a classic proof surrogate.
Love it how the guy outside the balloon place doesn't want to say that he's there making a documentary about nasa helium conspiracies but says he's talking about "balloon launches". Saying it on a video is one thing, admitting to it in public shows where his truth lies.
And worse: they kept it in the video! Although that may be explained later. I guess they’ll try to say that they were forced to leave therefore NASA oppresses them, or something…
To the average person the distance to the sun is just not that important, that is why so many people don't remember it. I wonder if that guy could tell me what the wheelbase of his car is, because that number is equally unimportant to most people.
Sure, but any average person who listens to They Might Be Giants knows that "the sun is a mass of incandescent gas...about 93 million miles away, and that's why it looks so small!" Just one more question for the flerfs: are John F and John L on the NASA payroll too? Scandalous!
Or the number of transistors in the chip running their phone. Basically they claim gotchas with people when they have all these things in front of them with a script or cheat sheet.
Flerfer: "They have no idea but they're defending it to the death."
Me: "Ironic.."
Its projection.
They know they're full of it...
Of course what that idiot was yapping about (in a voice that sounds like someone wire brushed his vocal cords) is that fact that lots of people don't happen to know the specific numeric values for assorted things like the radius of Earth. Big deal! These are things that can instantly be looked up these days. It's handy to remember them if you regularly need them for some reason, but otherwise they're largely just skull litter. I wonder if that dolt can recite Avogadro's constant or the number of electrons in a coulomb.
Translation, they haven’t memorized it like me or have a scripted cheat sheet so they don’t know it.
Basically he’s playing on the fact that most people don’t have these numbers and facts memorized to be able to recall them in an instance. You can go look these things up but guys like Weiss refuse to let someone do that.
“It’s as bright as the sun!”
Shows a completely dark night sky.
They are not even trying at this point.
Dave McKeegan reported that in order to get the same brightness from the sun as from the ISS he had to use a difference of 20 stops (iirc). 20 stops is 2^20, which is very close to one million.
I think types like Weiss are just too stupid to realize that something in the night sky that was really as bright as the sun would be very unpleasant to look at, cause major "flare" if you pointed a camera at it without knowing what you were doing and would be so conspicuous that anyone who had ever been outdoors between dusk and dawn would have noticed it many times.
Well at best it’s as bright as a planet. It’s clearly a case of hyperbole intended to make it sound ridiculous.
Just think, in 50 or so years time, when we have people regularly visiting the established Moon bases as tourist holiday destinations, these "Flat Earth Documentaries" will be playing on the in flight comedy channel...
Yea i hope they can make space travel commercially available in our lifetime, that way we can put the conspiracies to rest and I can die a happy man.
@@BMW_329 You are way too optimistic. There are people who refuse to believe to believe in Australia. There are also people who deny the existence of Austria on the basis that they confuse it with Australia.
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I sure do hope there's a humanity left in 50 years to reach for the stars... Things aren't looking too bright right now and with these (and similar) nutjobs denying every bit of scientific evidence that odesn't agree with them I'm not sure we will recover.
@@davidjuson5608 oh god your right, I also forgot about people who don't believe in certain animals. I guess I'll never die a happy man.
If I was on the ISS, I would play with water too 😊
Yeah a great idea with all them electrics everywhere. Water + electric = fun
@@TransitionedToAShark The astronauts do it, as seen in the video. They know what they are doing and probably don't leave water droplets floating around everywhere...
people play with water in weightlessness, people make lightsaber noises with their mouths when handed a prop lightsaber. these are laws of physics.
@@kenbrown2808 Fact!
@@-Thauma- lies. They never played with water before augmented reality lol fail
i love how flerfs claim that the idiot at the Brevard County meeting is NASA being proven to lie in court.
Without flat earthers, who will collect my garbage? 🤷🏾♂️
I so viscerally want to get elected to some sort of board just for the chance of having one of these folks show up. Professionalism be damned, I'd sit there and laugh in their face the whole time.
Also can we appreciate how the guy filming the research station lied? "What are you doing?" "Filming a documentary about weather balloons." If you were so sure about your "model" why would you be scared/nervous/ashamed to say "I'm filming a part for a flat earth documentary"? It's because you know this guy would laugh in your face.
Flerf comes to the county commission to talk Flerf nonsense
Me after 2.5 minutes of continuous mocking laughter: “I yield the rest of my time.”
'ISS B2 Bombers'.. "Two of them are in Alaska, I forget where the other one is..." He's talking to a NASA whistle blower, yet he didn't bother writing down every single bit of information he had to share here and everywhere. 😄
IKR...and when you're making an actual 'documentary' you'd think that'd kind of be important. You know, facts and evidence and stuff.
That’s why he’s using a proof surrogate. It lets him make up whatever he wants.
As a citizen of a country from the former communist camp, the level of ignorance of some Americans amazes me. It is beyond my comprehension how these people live alongside some of the most enlightened minds in the world. Incredible....
I don't think the U.S. has a monopoly on stupid, but we do have a special knack for getting behind cults, crackpot religious movements, bullshit conspiracy theories and so on. I'm convinced that a high percentage of flerfers don't actually believe the crap they spew, but they are inherently lazy or have unrequited aspirations of scientific greatness, (without the intellectual firepower to pull it off), or some combination of the two. Others are motivated by religious ideas, (I hesitate to call them "convictions"), and are avoiding crashing their arguments by admitting it's just about Jesus. What I am more curious about is; Who do they believe their audience to be?
I grew up and grew old in this country. I worked as a Psychiatric Technician in a maximum security mental institution. I've witnessed some shit. I am still surprised by the level of intellectual contempt that pervades these doofae, (which I hope is the plural of doofus), and their stubborn inability or unwillingness, to accept testable science.
Plus, it's the INTERNATIONAL Space Station. So sure, NASA is heavily involved in it, but also the Esa and Roscosmos(and certainly other space agencies).
So you're telling me there is a worldwide conspiracy, between world governments, that can't even exist together in peace? I mean... Don't you think the Russian would have debunked the moon landing by now?
Woah woah woah. There’s definitely some European FE pushers. Don’t you put this all on us haha
@Fleato Yes, "stupid" speaks many languages 😂
@@Fleatopoint proven
Haha, the guy standing before a commission after rolling out his crackpot conspiracy accusations: "Now, I know what you're all thinking; I'm just a county commisioner". I bet that's not what they're thinking at that point.
Whistle-blower?
He spoke with a coach of a NASA employee sports team, who is not an actual NASA employee.
_"Yeah, I've got a whistle, and sometimes I blow it. So I guess you could say I'm a NASA whistle-blower. "_
Someone should ask those guys why an agency that has invested an incalculable amount of money and effort into a scam in which every country in the world is a partner hasn't simply killed them, and record their reaction.
I can't get over how these people sound like small children, trying to convince their parents that their favorite bedtime story really happened.
Ah yes, of course the NASA whistleblower contacted a flat earther instead of the New York Times.
As if the NYT would ever believe him 😂😂😂😂
The guy in the suit mentions the need for mental health, so they should have given him some. He is in great need...
And i agree with him. I do think Nasa is too big. They went to the moon. They launched satelites. More money needs to go to fighting poverty and having better education.
They can't even edit properly. Why would they leave the pauses for the loud truck in? Can't wait to see the convo with the second driver.
It's so cute to me how they hear "NASA buys helium" and think "PROOF! BALLOONS!"
I don't think they understand helium isn't solely used for floating balloons 😆
Try and explain to them the several uses helium would have in a spaceship... They most likely wouldn't understand a thing lol
"They have modified B2 bombers" -then showing pictures of every airplane in the world except a B2 bomber -evidence.
The guy filming at the Columbia NASA research center is committing a crime its why the employee in the truck was questioning him
He has to get permission to film there ...
When I used to travel around giving beekeeping seminars, you could cut together all the times I made the same joke.
While Dan is not guilty of this, there are a lot of people on the web that are mistaking gathering of data with actual research. There is a lot more to research than just gathering data and then letting the opinion with the most data, be it ambiguous or not, win. That is just not research. You have to have the right tools to actually do something with that information after you gather it and you must use those tools correctly in order to be justified in calling it research.
You do not need to know much or need much research to demonstrate flat earth cannot work.
With 2 values, distance north pole to equator and height of sun over the equator at equator equinox.
On that day on the equator the sun rises DEMONSTRABLY from due east vertically up, is in zenith at noon and sinks vertically and sets due west.
No matter which values flat earthers would give me, I can show the geometry does not work out.
Not needing more than basic geometry And the ability to apply it, apply geometry, simple math and basic physics to analyze, describe and SOLVE a problem.
Unless you postulate special physics where light has characteristics that depend on at least a dozen variable, local parameters.
Therefore no flat earther will EVER give you ANY concrete numbers.
Therefore flat earthers are more and more resorting to call themselves "globe sceptics", because they KNOW they can NEVER talk about their truth without being crushed instantly.
The problem is that the "researchers" are 95% occupied with their productive work in their field, and so do not know the word games and insane arguments of flatlings and then look bad.
You need outright training in the handling of flat earth "arguments" to identify the trick and have the right response.
What I keep in the back of my head is: Is the whole flat earth debate a scam? Is it a "conspiracy"? Do flat earthers and flat earth debunkers conspire to make an entertaining show, that keeps both in the center of attention and makes enough money for their living?
But there is no exact answer for that. It is neither the one nor the other completely.
One word only: planets
Explain how planets can be observed with your own telescope to be round (eaven see their rotation over a time lap of about a few hours for the faster rotating planets) and how they stay up there. I am not calling you a flat earter, but populat flat earther claimed that galaxies and nebulas are not real, while in the mean time i can take a photo of them with my phone ! The milky can be see to have a particular shape which depending on where you are you see the milky way differently wrap around the sky while it's movement across winter night can only be explained with a globe earth ! Space is real. The orion nebula, Andromeda galaxy are real (as i saw them my self) and they are just beautiful !
@@feedingravensagreed. But also the planets. FE think that space is fake and that nebulas are fake, but you can see the orion nebula so easily.
I'm amazed these flat earth grifters can find anyone to believe their trash. No scientific theories on how a flat earth works. Just stupid conjectures that easily fail observable facts, e.g. the angular size of the sun not changing.
And with proper research, you must also seek to DISPROVE your hypothesis, something they will never do.
They don’t even understand the concept of wrapping something in tin foil and it reflecting light. I can’t do this anymore
2:55 As a musician, I am genuinely jealous that he does not need a mic stand and the mic just stays where you put it.
You've got to to love the guy in a "bell end" (Blnd) shirt at 4:30 😂 really sums it up.
Minor clarification at 11:00.
That's _Gemini 4_ astronaut Ed White performing the first American spacewalk.
Sadly, he died in the Apollo 1 fire along with Vitgil "Gus" Grissom and Roger Chaffee.
Both those events were well documented in the 1960s, long before CGI and "Photoshop" were around.
Is that really authentic footage? Because that was the one part I just pointed out to Dan as CGI, because the astronaut is moving in a really "key-framed" way. Is there a source for the original? Edit: Just looked at it again: This can't be real. Unless the astronaut is giving us his best "robot dance".
I just looked at the original footage of Ed White. This is not it. The original stuff is also way shakier and has less resolution. My best guess is: Somebody recreated it - probably for a TV documentary.
The question now is: Did the flerfs fall for it themselves and were right once in a blue moon? Or did they put it in on purpose to have a "gotcha!" moment with Dan?
Mystery solved: Another user pointed me to the "original" v=EnX24ifFuac which is an up-res and interpolated version of the footage from 1965.
Now it's clear what is happening: They used some wonky image interpolation and upres and it is doing strange stuff to the motion. If you watch this version, the small parts (the instrument he is handling in the beginning, the safety (?) line) doing really strange things due to the algorhythm. So it is "kinda" CGI, but based on real film stock.
I think the frame rate of the original footage was lower, as I recall seeing it decades ago. Playing it back at "normal" rates gives you a faster, "jerkier" movement. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to see that processed into something like the clip we saw. The maneuvering gun (pressurized nitrogen, if I recall) and life support umbilical movements look correct if we take that into account.
Of all the things to worry about tax dollars NASA is not one. They get somewhere around 0.05 cents per tax dollar paid… not exactly breaking the bank.
Wouldn't that be cool if they actually investigate nasa? Like a tax payer sponsored tour, they can bring their kids, cameras, make a whole day out of it.
That guy in front of the county commissioners is a true "sir this is a Wendy's" moment.
"Why use a baloons if there is space and satellites" sounds like interesting question, but not in the way flat-earthers usually think.
Answer may be similar to answer for "why ride a car if there are airplanes and helicopters".
*magical space😆
reminds me of some idiots who thiink that the existence of Cable TV means that TV satellites don't exist...
Just had a look at the so called documentary on his channel and the amount of stupid saying how awesome it is and how it should be taught in schools is scary. Very depressing to see how much stupid there is out there and these people actually walk among us.
It’s especially scary when you remember how many of them have drivers licenses or may (at least in the US) own firearms. I think I should buy a helmet…
They're a dying breed. Think of it as natural selection - stupid, undateable people. Channels like this help prevent others who may be on the fence from ever getting wrapped up in it. Although I do feel sorry for the kids of those who did manage to attract a mate.
@@joeschmo3844 And a Kevlar vest!
The FE way of thinking is "I no understand so it not real and is lies. Earth is flat cuz i dont feel space wind blowing me at 1000's mph. That all proof needed forever. I win, NASA lose cuz they dummy's"
I haven’t cringed watching your videos for a long time but Dave just hits the button every time 😖
The video clips & Dan stating where each one came from was hilarious! Another great video, Sci Man!
At 6:15 the guy is complaining about the ISS, "Is it made of mirrors?" I wish we still had Iridium flares happening! Iridium communication satellites had highly reflective panels and had to maintain a specific orientation, so there were web sites that could predict when and where you would see a satellite brightly flare up for a few seconds as the panels directly reflected the sunlight right at you. If I recall correctly, they could reach -2 magnitude for nearly 10 seconds if you were positioned in exactly the right spot. They were great to point out at star parties!
so embarrassed for the Brevard county dude.
“A whistleblower told me” - o well there you go. Thats all the information I need.
It reminds me of Milo (Minute man) mocking Tiktok conspiracy theorists when they constantly refer to this "Guy in the government told me" in every one of their videos
The thing that still bothers me the most is not even them discrediting the word of NASA and private people, but rather the fact it all ALWAYS) boils down to: My head cannot comprehend this is possible/works like what they say, so it MUST be fake.
Ignorance is one thing, but this is just straight up stupidity. And that's what makes it so infuriating to hear them talk with such confidence. You cannot educate someone that simply doesn't have the mental capacity for it. 🥲
"They see one thing and throw all other research out the window." - a flat earther not realizing the irony.
I was chatting with my daughter as to how unbelievable it is that in 2023 there are still people who think the earth is flat!!!!
LIKE SERIOUSLY THEY THINK THE EARTH IS FLAT!!!
She reminded me that these people are full of hate. They believe in conspiracy theories and have beliefs in the lies and misinformation on the internet.
I feel very sorry for these people. They are pitiful .They are missing the bigger picture. There really are problems in our world but being flat isn’t one of them
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I’m about to re-ignite my own debunk videos on this ridiculous conspiracy nonsense. I’m with ya Dan! Keep going.
I do like how Dan touches on the lack of trustworthy sources. Obviously flat earth and other stuff is nonsense but I can see how people have issues in this day and age with so much conflicting information.
he is using less trustworthy sources because even flat earth cant see that thing.. and prove how pathetic they are... by disrespecting it
I'm still asking about the sky spraying he talked about four or so videos ago but nobody responds.
What's happened is right wingers worldwide have been telling people to don't trust the media (except right wing media) for years now, then trump came along and ramped it up too 110 in America.
@@davidpawson7393 sky spraying ?
@@davidpawson7393 .
What was said about sky spraying?
I live for that yodeling!!!
I like that 5 B2s are able to do 24 hr flyovers of the entire planet, at supersonic speeds, with solar panels strapped everywhere. Good one.
Dan did not disappoint but included the appropriate yodelling sequence for ISS pictures.
Worlds best ‘do your research’ moment.
Why does NASA need all this helium?? BALLOONS!!!!
Uh. No. Rocket fuel. 🤦♂️
I'm guessing that he found that "whistleblower" at a pub wearing an old Nasa hoodie and sweatpants, and had to be paid in cheap liquor
Like in every Roland Emmerich movie
Sorry Dan the space walk was Ed White on Gemini 4. No EVA’s on the Mercury project. Good debunk.
I can't help but think that Flathead Weiss has CP on his hard drive. He just gives me that super gross vibe.
0:05 "enjoy" is an understatement dan! Watching the flat earth videos you pick is like watching the circus, I wonder what they are going to do next?
14:17 As an amateur radio operator, I can assure you satellites are real. You can relay communication through them. Just like you can communicate over Ham bands to ISS. You can also use Doppler effect and triangulation to calculate distance, speed and direction of travel. In fact you have to account for this as the frequency changes as it passes overhead. All the math is basic high school level.
The existence of balloons doesn’t preclude the existence of satellites just like the existence of horses does not preclude the existence of cars.