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@@ws1982 Was about to mention that, hes not even mention in this movie, couse its Level the movie, just revorked. the producer is Sean Hibbeler with the "Shagalite 5G pyramids"
Precisely. There's a bit of disagreement even within the flat earth community. Multiple variations of the 'true' flat earth. At least reality only has the one version!
It's because "they" wouldn't allow them to do the experiments, which is code for we did some and it didn't show what we wanted it too so blame "they" and earth be flat 🤣🌍
@@lcfctom1 based on how much they talk about "extra land" I'm guessing they're pushing the layer cake model where there are other planes forming concentric rings around earth. Or they think earth is an infinite plane.
Dubay himself refers to "the fact that there are plenty of flights to/from/over Antarctica", which at a stroke destroys the claim that nobody can go there and the claim that there is lots of undiscovered land beyond.
Flerfer: "Pictures of the Earth from orbit, or from the moon, are CGI." (shown pictures from before CGI technology). Also Flerfer: "Hey, this guy took a ship to Antarctica, got lost, and found an advanced technological society and more lands, but brought back no proof and no maps. His story is completely legit."
They also say Admiral Byrd went and wrote a diary and one entry was they were flying their single seat aircraft and found a giant hole and decided to fly into it and inside was a whole society living in the center of the planet. For one, no pilot would ever fly into a giant hole. Some would fly into it if they knew beforehand that there was an equal hole at the very end that took them back to above ground, safely. His son allegedly wrote the diary himself, probably to sell books for profit and wanted some good stories and his father had died so he couldn't be debunked. There is no hole at the south pole that a whole other society lives in. These Flerfers are so cringe. You could fly them up in a Dragon Capsule and when they look out the portholes while floating in space without wires, they would look out and see a round earth. They would immediately agree and say "ok guys the earth is round." However when they get back on earth they will have had time to stew and come up with "so I'm certain what the windows were was fisheye lenses to trick people or they were actually High def 6k screens showing CGI earth and the weightlessness we felt was a trick and we were inside the vomit comet going up and down and the reentry thru the atmosphere was also CGI played on the screen and I saw it glitch out several times and then they filled the capsule with co2 and knocked us out then the airplane dropped us into the ocean to complete the scam so nothing was proved."
I'm Polish and it's shocking for me that some people are questioning that Nicholas Copernicus (Mikołaj Kopernik) existed. He IS a historical figure, well know in Polish history. We have so many records about him, his life and work. Questioning Copernicus existence make Flat Earthers more ridiculous.
It's not the first time that they seem to forget that other countries exist. They will regularly offer "proof" of a flat Earth from the perspective of someone who lives in the upper hemisphere, not realizing that the thing they're seeing looks or acts completely different in the southern hemisphere
Well that is them taking the easy way out. Their go to boogeyman is NASA mainly because nearly everything they do shows how wrong they are. So it’s just easier to say that early astronomers and physicists are made up by them and added into history. It lets them narrow the groups to blame. Notice that Weiss implies that no one talks about Eratosthenes until modern times saying no one in his day ever wrote about him and he just expects you to take his word for it. He then goes to cover his bets showing paintings of these men showing them using measuring tools that he can tie them to the Free Masons with so he has an out. See if they are real, they are part of ‘them’ so we can just dismiss them.
The idea that "They" whoever they are, are hiding the shape of the earth to hide god is laughable--Is this god so weak that he can't reveal himself to everyone, but relies on a bunch of flat earthers to help him out. Now that's funny.
This is the first I'm hearing of the idea that somehow a flat earth would give any credibility to the existence of God lol how does that even work? And how is God any more or less likely to exist based on the shape of our planet? But hey at least they are attempting to give a reason behind what would be one of the most massive and coordinated cover-ups in history. The precious best explanation I'd heard was it was in order to sell physical globes to people. Which is also hilarious, as if they couldn't sell physical models of the flat earth. But again, at least they're trying 😂🤣
The funny thing is, neither the church nor the bible ever bothered with the shape of the earth. Its place in the universe, yes (It of course had to be in the centre), but flat or not was never of any real importance.
Yes, the poor victims of a, 'conspiracy' to hide the, 'truth', by those who are able to debunk their assertions with, 'hatred.' Or, as those of us who aren't pushing an agenda call it, empirical, objective, demonstrable evidence.
“Thanks Bob” always a classic. There’s a RUclipsr pilot that has offered to take flat earthers on a flight from Southern South America to Australia which flies over Antarctica. He takes this trip regularly. Please make this happen to shut them up! Great videos 👍
"There’s a RUclipsr pilot that has offered to take flat earthers on a flight from Southern South America to Australia which flies over Antarctica. He takes this trip regularl". Good idea, but I am afraid that even that would just lead to more ad hoc explanations, like "oh the windows on the plane are monitors. You're with the Bilderberg Group/NASA/whatever". I hope that some of these guys will come around (literally and figuratively speaking), but often, they seem to be stuck in their beliefs. In that way, I deeply admire SciManDan and similar channels for their enormous patience with the flat earthers.
"Impossible to get real information now" implying the only real information was on RUclips. So no doing your own research, only parroting what other people say.
I once read a book about how there is extra land that's been hidden, and controlled by a despotic tyrant. It even contained a map. You get to it via a wardrobe.
I love the "Google doesn't want you to..." narrative. You then Google a specific term, and get 80% of the results showing the thing they claim is being hidden.
They always use very careful wording when they do their searches. They must do it on purpose it’s the only way to fit their narrative. They are also trying hard to pull in other fringe conspiracy followers by tying Flat Earth to other groups that seem more legitimate. Note, they toss in anti-vax among others as they go.
Flat Earthers: "They're hiding more land and resources because they don't want us to know there's more to explore." Flat Earthers also: "They tell us space is real and there are lots of other planets, but there's nothing out there."
Right, do you follow Limitless Space Institute? And have you heard of Dr. Harold White. If not look them up they are funding research into breakthrough technologies for this purpose.
Yeah, and 'nautical mile' (you know, the reckoning of distance on account of the curvature of the Earth?) has been equated to "Not a mile", as in "Not a real mile!" They hide these 'confessions' in plain sight, you know! You just have to know how to interpret them! "Astronaut" = "Astro-not!" ================================================================================================
I love that they never seem to realize just how many people would have to be on the inside to keep such a secret. Literally every government in the world, including the uncooperative ones like North Korea. Thousands upon thousands of people at places like Google. All the scientists and astronauts.... Millions of people all keeping this secret....
@@bloodmoney88 Everybody except flat earthers themselves then. (and even that is debatable since some flat earthers accuse other flat earthers of being controlled opposition)
I say this about all conspiracy people that think “they” do anything. I mean just look at Monica and Bill Clinton. Only 3 people prolly knew about that and it got out. You don’t think 1/4 of the earths population is getting in on that globe money to not saying anything? If so I have been missing YEARS IF NOT DECADES of missing checks :-)
The part of the Antarctic treaty that everyone seems to forget, it was signed because there were several countries that had claims over Antarctic. So it was decided to make it for all us, leaving it as untouched as possible.
Not just that, but the Antarctic treaty was signed in the 1960s, or late 1950s. It was in the middle of the fucking cold war. Everyone was trying to prevent full nuclear annihilation so they decided that instead of decided one party, or both parties shared the Antarctic. NO ONE DID, a sign of great maturity, honestly.
Physics Girl literally just did a video about her trip to the Arctic a week ago. You can get a job on any of the several bases in Antarctica during the research seasons for non-research positions. United States Antarctic Program, there are 85 jobs available right now. Less than 10 minutes. I did my own research. It was amazing. Almost like there's no excuse for this kind of willful ignorance.
Yes but you forgot to turn on the "things I *believe* the bible says - even though I haven't actually read it, and it never actually says the earth is flat" filter.
For them these jobs are either just fakes, or "they" will do a deep background check and only accept people who compltely believe "their" narrative of the globe. Or they will afterwards control and blackmail everybody when they are at home to force them to hide the truth about the edge of the earth that they have seen. Or, my favourite, all people who apply to these jobs will be employed on areas far away from the edge of the earth, and be heavily guarded, so that they will not find out the "truth". Select for yourself which of the above "explanations" you like best :-)
The irony of the English woman stood on a beach espousing flat earth while ships are literally disappearing over the horizon behind her..... like in the worst pantomime, I just want to shout ' IT'S BEHIND YOU!!'.
Any clue why they were turned around? I'm assuming it's because they want to check visitors to Tasmania for products that could threaten the island's ecosystem. I mean, their boat was obviously not very ocean worthy, they were not equipped for a polar expedition. They would likely never have made it to Antarctica, let alone to the south pole. I don't think it's strange if the patrol assumed they were in fact heading for Tasmania.
@@gerritvalkering1068 I'm not really sure as I don't know who they are or what they were doing. It's possible they were near one of the oil rigs - as far as I know there's no other restricted maritime areas in Bass Strait. Or maybe they were doing naval training exercises? Just guesses but if they _were_ trying to get to Antarctica, yeah I doubt they would have made it in that thing.
we are so restricted from going to Antarctica and beyond that literally every flat earther somehow has a 'map' of extra continents. How they got this knowledge when no one is allowed to go? why is every 'map' of these continents looking completely different? mysterious.
Antarctic Logistics a travel company have been flying around Antarctica for ages. A relative, a made keen climber, booked with them to climb Mt Vinson Massif. Seems it's very popular, dedicated climbers like to climb the highest peaks on every continent.
@@iami3rian394 they have made at least one commercial airliner a 747 with 120 paying passengers Pan Am flight 50 that flew around the world by the north south route that crossed Antarctica over the pole in 1977 a one flight 50th anniversary special flight.
@@appresley4071 There are no runways in Antarctica that can take commercial airliners that are allowed (by the ETOPS safety rules) to fly that route (which are the 747, A380, and special extended range A340 and 787 - they need huge runways and a lot of ground facilities). Nor is there sufficient demand to build one that would make commercial sense. Until recently the largest aircraft flown to Antarctica were C130s and C17s - military aircraft that can cope with ice runways and limited facilities. In the past couple years, a few large airliners have flown there, but they're always chartered for expedition/base support, and most have special modifications to cope with the conditions. And of course there's literally NO flights at all during the Antarctic winter except for an occasional emergency flight with a twin otter.
"Nobody can go to Antarctica." Tell that to Colin O'Brady who hiked across Antarctica (932 miles in 54 days) in late 2018. I believe that entire journey is pretty well documented.
That's easy to refute: didn't happen. Or CGI. Or it was a film studio. Or he was somewhere else. GPS coordinates? Can be faked. You won't get a flearthling to admit that the journey happened as it happened.
Lies! All lies! Have you met Colin yourself? Have you been to Antarctica yourself? No! Nobody can go there! They'll shoot you on sight! "They" tell you that so-and-so has been there and explored the South Pole (complete fiction, BTW), trekked across the icy continent with but a sled of supplies, etc. But it's all outright lies, I tell you! But an article that is a work of fiction from several decades ago that tells of more land beyond the Antarctic "Ice Wall" ? Well, now, that you can believe! Why? Because we pick and choose what we want to believe! Anything that lines up with our beliefs is trustworthy, and anything that doesn't is pure hogwash! =====================================================================================================================================================
I love the whole "RUclips is censoring us!" thing from Flat Earthers. Does never occur to them that RUclips would just not even host the content if they wanted to censor it
Exactly! They could just delete the videos or even the entire channel, claiming some random violation of it's guidelines. RUclips being the big bad censor guy just makes no sense
Just look at shady DIY hack channels - people have been hurt and died, trying to replicate the hacks. And RUclips does nothing to remove demonstrably dangerous content.
Also: Failing to realise that for thousands of years, we did not have Google or RUclips, yet somehow managed to accumulate knowledge, improve on it, decade, by decade, and through millennia of trial and error, experiment, success, and failure, reach the point, of understanding many of the most fundamental aspects of nature, mathematics, and science. Making that scientific knowledge available to anyone who cares to look for it. Sadly, it also now allows any fool, who thinks he is a victim of some massive centuries old "global" conspiracy, to ignore all of that achievement, and accumulated knowledge, and say *"nuh-hu!",* because the bible tells him so.
Every time they claim “No flat-Earther thinks THAT!” I can think of half a dozen flat-Earthers who have made that exact claim. Flat-Earth has no working map or model. The only thing all flat-Earthers agree on is that they think Earth can’t be a globe. And they are wrong.
@@Isolder74 Maybe that is the way they convince themselves. Probably no idea how to apply skepticism but having a kind of gut feeling and mistaking it with common sense.
"He didn't read the Antarctic Treaty either" Yes, we know that these guy stopped all reading after they have finished "Winnie the Pooh" because they thought the book was too complicated.
Everytime I get into an argument online with a Flerth about the Antarctic Treaty, I ask if they've read all 300 pages of the treaty. And then I keep going up. I think i'm up to about 900 pages now. Sadly none have ever fallen for it, mainly because they just defect onto another topic.
They keep repeating that they don't think Earth's a snow globe floating in space but non of them actually said what exactly they believe don't you find that odd?
They spend most of their time trying to rubbish/diminish factual evidence, rather than providing any to the contrary. The whole argument from incredulity with no explanation of an alternative.
Well to be fair, some of the more biblical literalist flerfers do describe it pretty much as a snow globe, but with the _water on the outside._ The whole flerf concept of the planets and stars being "luminaries" and not solid objects is just misinterpreting parts of Genesis - which they probably have not read, and almost certainly do not understand.
"There's more room for us to get away from child sex traffic"?! Mind blown. Child sex traffic would end if we only had "more real estate". Makes perfect sense.
I gleefully invite EVERY flat-Earther to go "over the ice wall" and claim their own piece of land to homestead upon. In fact, I DARE THEM! - edit: and why did the millionaire dime-store cowboy bring up child sex trafficking? What is he projecting?
Flat Earthers: "You can only believe what you see with your own eyes, books are all lies" Also Flat Earthers: "This book from a hundred years ago tells of a magical land beyond Antarctica"
They use the detail that they were published annually in a magazine as saying it was news not a work of fiction. I wonder if they know how Pinocchio was originally published?
It's funny how con artists act like debunking them is proof that they're onto something, when dispelling incorrect knowledge and misinformation is part of the pursuit of truth.
There's no pursuit of truth. The pursuit ended hundreds of years ago when ancient people with less than half of the technology than your dumbass has at your fingertips found out the earth wasn't a pizza.
My favorite model is the one where they go full circle (lol) and claim that the flat world with the sun floating inexplicably above it is actually part of a giant ice ball with other flat worlds dotted across it.
Canadian here, can confirm our country is fake and we're all paid shills, oh and so are all Russians, and people from Greenland... Greenlanders? What do you call people from Greenland? Oh and Alaskans too
@@tmmalone1986 um, I knew who copernicus was in grade school, quite a bit before social media existed. You do understand information was spread just fine before the internet, right?
@@NG-VQ37VHR Misinformation is spread faster these days, too. Newspapers, books, technical journals all required physical publishing, taking time to research, write, proofread, and editorial review. It didn't prevent publishing nonsense, but it made it expensive to publish anything. Nowadays anyone can write whatever they like, research skills involve watching RUclips videos. But that's not everyone; there's still a lot of real knowledge being gathered and published. Just not by the "Level"-headed Flat Earth believers in Dan's video.
Flat Earthers are a lot like Amber Heard - everyone is out to get them and they are never responsible for any of their own actions. They are victims and everyone else is evil. It's like Dunning-Kruger and Narcissus had a son, and that son was called, Flerf.
@@aaronmicalowe their whole scheme is that they throw out some made up claim and everybody has to prove it's untrue. "U know sun is 300miles away and about thr size of an SUV"
@@Mart77 What model. They don't have one and they refuse to present one because they know it means committing to something that can be refuted. They just misdirect at best.
They need to feel special. They are by and large average people with empty lives and no respect given to them by friends and family. So they find other people that believe the same nonsense they do, create little clubs or communities so they can feel a part of something that no one else understands.
@@RealityDysfunction85 You mean … like religion? Crusades, holy wars, torture to make people agree with them … and a steady income stream for the leaders?
I still find it hilarious that someone once told the flerfers that the North Atlantic treaty forbids anyone going to the North pole and they all believe it without question. Not a single one of them actually bothered to read the treaty to fact-check the claim, which just sums up Flat Earth perfectly...
I know a group of people who have visited both the North Pole and the South Pole and have even climbed Mt. Everest, along with many other adventures. They're a family of adventurers who live in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, and they've been featured on a great many television shows over the years. They even brought one of their teenagers with them to Antarctica, and to the summit of Everest! Furthermore, just a few years ago a man literally walked all the way across Antarctica! Apparently, he was following in the footsteps of another man who tried the same feat, but died only about 50 or 60 km short of safety.😞 So Flerfers claiming that "nobody is allowed to explore Antarctica" is, at best, entirely disingenuous or, at worst, absolutely astonishing stupidity and ignorance...and with Flerfers, it's almost always the latter!🤣 When, oh, when will these Flerfers finally get a clue?🤣 Probably never, but we should be grateful for their existence just the same. Why is that, exactly? So that no matter how much of a screw-up any if us might be, we can still find people who make us look positively brilliant by comparison, that's why!🤣 Textbook Dunning-Kreuger effect in action, Flerfers are, yet they wonder why they're so resoundingly ridiculed? Egads, but those Flerfers are dense!
@@That70sGuitarist Many have explored both poles. Scott, Barents, Hillary, the ill fated Belgica Expedition spent nearly two years trapped in the Antarctic in 1897! Anyone can go there today, besides those on tourist cruises, you just need a permit due to it's strict wildlife preservation and often inhospitable conditions. The countries under the Antarctic Treaty also need permission.
So happy to see you take this one on! I definitely enjoy the longer content, myself. You know, when I was young, I lived near one of the Great Lakes. I loved to spend time at the beach during the summer. I would watch boats pass over the horizon, the body of the boat first, until there was just the mast visible, and that disappeared as well. I remember thinking, as a little kid, how cool it was that I could see evidence first-hand of the massive globe we lived on. So there are more intricate ways to prove it more firmly, of course, but when the flerfs are like "Does it feel like you're on a giant spinning ball?" it's like - yes, the world really does look the way it would if I lived on a giant ball turning at a rate of one revolution per day.
Yes, and that is the sort of awe and wonder that is missing from their blinkered perspective. Like you, my sense of awe when stopping to observe these things, is still there, even now, as a cranky 60 year old. When you think the Bible is a scientific and historical document, and everything else is just a lie, then your world must be a very bleak place.
@@bobblum5973 They deny what you can see with your own eyes. They ironically send me links to youtube videos...so much for suppression and observing stuff for yourself!
Ditto. As a retired electronic engineer telecommunications (ICT) I'm still awaiting the same explanation on radio propagation techniques used to overcome earth's curve vs radio propagation on a flat earth.
17:10 "Remember, the word extraterrestrial means extra land." Okay...and does extramarital mean an extra marriage? You know these root words and prefixes have definitions you can look up, right? Extra- *when used as a prefix* means outside, except, or beyond. Terrestrial means of, on, or relating to Earth. So an extraterrestrial is something from outside or beyond Earth. Just like an extramarital affair is an affair with someone from outside of your marriage, not an extra marriage. Thank you for joining me for this segment of "Teaching Words to Dumbasses"
Do these people forget that older people exists? I'm in my fifties, my grandparents would have been around 120 now. They had this amazing globe, it was already an antique when they bought it, and my grandmother would point out on it where her sister emigrated to (from Norway) in America. She would have laughed out loud if someone was to tell her that the earth was flat. They also had a 10 volume encyclopedia from 1913, wich my father still have, that I loved digging into as a kid. The earth was a globe in it of course. These lies about the globe being taught in school being a recent thing is so ridiculously easy to debunk that I can't belive they bother.
@@ebonkrieg that is so cool! I despise how some folk like to insinuate that people from the past were stupid where in reality, these older generations were likely on average much more resourceful, self-sufficient and resiliant than today's flerfing idiots. I bet those old tomes have a veritable wealth of interesting knowledge that mostly still holds up today!
Extraterresrial is a word taken directly from latin. In latin "Extra" means outside and terra means either land or Earth. So it means "outside of Earth", not "extra land" like in Free bonus land :D This guy tries to overthrow hundreds of years of science but fails in knowledge of his own language. I know this and English is my second language.
Exactly. This shows without a doubt that they are so lazy, that they can't even be bothered to look up the meaning of a word before confidently stating what it is on camera. The whole enterprise, where it isn't just some Poe cynically making money out of ignorant people, is just the lazy way to explain a world that baffles them, because of their lack of education.
@@barrylangille3523 It is actually funny that they think extra means more. That is if you use extra as its own work. An extra arm is an arm that isn't part of the normal system. That is what extra means. Extraordinary means outside the ordinary, extraterrestial means outside the terrestial, or basically outside of earth. But I don't mind some extra dites... or some extra terrestials... thinking about it anything living on earth is a terrestial, so if you have a baby you create an extra terrestial.
Fortunately my 7 year old granddaughter is being taught the truth, she had 2 reading books last week, one about the moon, one about space. We read the moon one then looked at the moon through binoculars & saw the craters and shadows at the terminator.
@@turboguppy3748 yes, perhaps she has a walker just out of screen, & a catching aid of some kind... even a friend out of shot, arms out stretched, perhaps that's what they do at any religious sermon, arms outstretched ready to catch their flerf.
"Flat-Earthers are Right. Right with that there is something wrong with the World. They perceive a Problem, they think somethings wrong with the World and yes, it is. Earth has massive Issues. Flat-Earthers, if i had Advice for you, it would be: Your feelings are valid, your Arguments are not. So keep searching... cause this aint it, Chief" -Hbomberguy. This Legendary RUclipsr... i wanna add something and its literally both for Flat-Earthers and my fellow GLOBEHEADS (1 is more likely to listen, but oh well), but if you perceiy, at any Level, Helplessness or Problems being a Thing, then please use 'Funny Education' and 'Smart Entertainment 'like Sci Man Dan, to learn more and keep yourself Updated. RUclipsrs like Some More News and Illuminaughtii tackle Issues. I think tackling is the right word here. So what i guess i wanna say is: Dont 'just' laugh at Flerfs (though dont forget to do!) but also be updated via these Channels and more. Cause Fact is: We can do Something.
I would love to bring a flat earther to Newgrange on the winter solstice and ask them how would this work on a flat earth. Newgrange is dated around 3200bc
"There is so much more land to discover", yes we call it space exploration, there is a big universe out there to discover which so many planets. Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is.
Even locally, there is room between us and our moon to put all the other planets in our solar system. Space is unfathomably vast. Inconceivably vast. As you said, mind bogglingly vast.
Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some. Much bigger than that in fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real 'wow, that's big', time.
Flat Earther: "You're misrepresenting our beliefs! That snow globe model is ridiculous!" Me: "okay, so give me YOUR model" Flat Earther: Flat Earther: >:(
Flat Earther: "You're misrepresenting our beliefs! That snow globe model is ridiculous!" Me: "okay, so give me YOUR model" Flat Earther: Have you seen a snow globe & Pizza ??
Flat Earther: "You're misrepresenting our beliefs! That snow globe and pancake model is ridiculous!" Me: "okay, so give me YOUR model" Flat Earther: Well... its like a flapjack or a pizza with a dome over it... resembling a snow globe.
That is exactly what I tell them. If you can't show me an accurate model of the flat Earth, *AND YOU CAN'T,* then STFU. If you can't EVEN show me how you _THINK_ it works, then what kind of moron would believe that it does.
Well, I was _almost_ convinced. Then they started with all those clips of the land beyond Antarctica. Imagine my shock when it all proved to be Cee Gee Eye.
funny thing is, even if we all suddenly started believing in flat earth, we'd still have to use the globe model to predict eclipses, seasons, sunrise/sunset times, phases of the moon, and for navigation. flat earth can't do any of that.
So theres massive amounts of land beyond the ice wall, lush green forests, sparkling blue water, and tropical paradises. So what is keeping that ice from melting? What scientific concept is keeping just that section of the "flat" earth cold enough to stay frozen? What happens to their model of the sun and moon with regards to this hidden land? Do they have their own sun? What heats/illuminates that which is past the wall?
I have never ever hear any sensible argument for WHY would anyone hide the shape of the planet from people. Also I must have missed the point when I got into this conspiracy after I started work in telecommunication.
If you've heard it's to turn people away from God, that's it. They tend to avoid saying it, but that's flat earth at its core. Most flat earthers believe that the way to heaven rests in denying reality.
It's always "to hide/keep us from god/the creator/etc". One of them said it in this video. Christo-fascists angry that science has so many leaving their cult("religion").
They’re human beings that can’t deal with their insignificance and need to feel special. If they had put all that energy into actually learning things and making something of their lives they might’ve gotten noticed for all the right reasons.
What really throws me off is how they think that just because something is old, that makes it correct, and demonstrable ... not as though technology keeps evolving to a point where we can more accurately understand the world around us (Thanks Bob!)
Logical fallacy of appeal to antiquity. The great thing about science is that it is constantly checking and (when there is evidence) correcting itself, unlike flat-earthers who deny the evidence and then have to spin a more and more complex web of lies to try to fit their ideas into what we see.
Those guys in the boat with the warship were all clearly dressed for a trip to Antarctica. It's a good thing they got turned away by the navy, they were really only concerned that they might catch a cold if they let them carry on.
A day-trip in a speedy launch doesn’t constitute a serious attempt at reaching the Antarctic. Another deflection of how to get there, by straying into a known, regulated, mapped zone, elsewhere. The underlying point is that, in their stupidity, they’re a danger to themselves and to those equally naive persons who take the baton of flerfdom.
When we tell people to "look it up," or "it's on the worlds biggest library of information; the internet," This is not what we imagined would have been the result.
First time I've heard of this crazy 'land exclusion' theory, it's a lovely new twist! Also, how would having more land stop all their children being kidnapped or trafficked? I feel that is a very, very specific concern for a lot of these guys.
People tend to embrace more than one conspiracy theory so I'm assuming that they're part of Q-Anon too. Could be wrong but some of the other things, like the guy talking about taxes, make me suspect that.
He says at 13:44 that with more land, "we" could take the children (I assume) and get away from the child sex traffickers. Because as we all know, it's the lack of space that makes sex trafficking possible. 🤨🤨
One of my favorite photographers did a photo workshop class in Antarctica last year with 3 or 4 of his fellow photographers to teach people who wanted to take that trip and learn photography. They’re planning on doing another workshop in Antarctica in 2024. Didn’t seem to have any issues getting there. They said the hardest part wasn’t getting permission to go, but the actual travel getting there was bad.
@@non-exist-ent Yeah, the inclusion of things like "free water" among the other kinds of things he listed really threw me off. But thinking about it more, he probably didn't mean it in a socialist sense, but an "I want to be able to use as much water for my farmland as I want with nobody telling me to stop" kind of selfish thing.
Flat Earthers: "It's a flying pancake in space with a globe over it" Also Flat Earthers: "It's not flying pancake in space with a globe over it!" I love flat earther infighting.
The only infighting between globers...? globbers? Whatever, sane people , is which direction is up. I guess there might be some infighting regarding sphere vs oblate spheroid, but probably not a lot.
@@antilight13 The "fights" between sphere/oblate spheroid as shapes of Earth are just pedantic fights. Earth's deviations from a sphere are just minimal: ruclips.net/video/jffQVdJdoKQ/видео.html
@@firedragon77777 We say that the Earth is a sphere/globe because its deviations from a sphere/globe are just minimal: ruclips.net/video/jffQVdJdoKQ/видео.html
"The word extraterrestrial means EXTRA LAND..." No it doesn't; the extra in EXTRATERRESTRIAL is not a separate word there... its a PREFIX meaning from OUTSIDE OF THE EARTH or its atmosphere. Colossal sphincters these people.
Oh, you think linguistic subtleties like that are going to jell with them? Subtleties... When the blatant horizon is blatantly staring them blatantly in their face! With boats and the entire sun sinking below it, bottom first... When bridges and pylons take a very obviously curved path over the horizon... =================================================================================================================================================
@@akedi2734 "Extra land?" Oh, yeah, that is hilarious! As I pointed out elsewhere, they love playing fast and loose with terminology like that! For example, they say that they've hidden clues to the conspiracy in plain sight, like the fact that they call the mile adjusted for the curvature of the earth, the unit used by sailors to navigate significant distances over water, the 'nautical mile,' because, you know, it's 'not-a-mile'! Or that 'astronaut' = 'astro-not!' Sigh! ===================================
Quote from the description of the Bass Strait video: "Running out to sea on a public (unrestricted) course we've traversed 100's of times before we suddenly get intercepted by WARSHIP HOBART that is passing by and told to leave the area." Probably was a once in a lifetime experience for these guys.
I just realized that Flat Earth believers are probably the type that, when driving around and everyone pulls over to let a police, fire, or other emergency vehicle race by with sirens and lights going, they're the ones who pull out behind those vehicles to get an escort through traffic!
some flattard claimed that there must be a coverup because some supposedly got arrested for trying to go to Antarctica... so i did some research on that guy: he went to Antarctica and back with NO problems or interference, then 3 YEARS LATER he got arrested near the NORTH POLE when he tried to sneak into RUSSIA! wow.
Haha, I had to laugh. I live in Tasmania and there are jobs advertised each year for people who want to go to Antarctica. Electricians, Cooks, Builders etc. I actually know people who have worked there. Hobart is a main port connecting with Antarctica. Qantas also do sightseeing flights down there.
"You can't fly in certain areas near the arctic circle" Well, that's a comment that didn't age well, given that due to current political conditions all flights between Asia and Europe now have to go over the north pole.
Just a thought....if there are vast continents past 'the ice wall' how are they lit? The Sun is circling our little bit lol. Is the dome bigger than they told us too? They really need a whiff of reality. As always, great vid Dan.
And how can they be warm enough to live on? Let me guess extra suns. They are being stopped from looking? It doesn’t look like they are very confined. It would be so great and that’s why flat earth is so important? Problem is if they don’t even try going and looking it makes no difference to their lives if there is a utopia or lovely free land past Antarctica.
I'm very disappointed in the highly advanged civilazations past the ice wall where you don't have to pay for your water. Why don't they fly over it and prove to us that they exist!?
@@unseenredalert1470 their fictional Antarctic Treaty ban is very convenient there. It makes it easy to make claims with zero need to offer empirical evidence.
There are hudreds on internal contradictions in the Flat Earth theory by which they literally debunk themselves. Of course, they never mention the contradictions in the same video except by accident. Thanks Bob!
I love that they're claiming there are all these lands and resources, but insisting that our political leaders are looking at that potential power and influence and saying "Oh nooo, don't want any of that".
I wonder what they think the value of these vast lands is if people are not allowed there. How do they grow cattle and wheat, mine silver and gold, extract uranium and rare earth metals for smartphones and computers, drill oil, build cars and helicopters and so on and so on … without people there? The land is worthless unless you use it - for example to traffic children, clone politicians and do beauty surgery on our sauroid overlords to look like human leaders … or maybe farm humans for food and for their blood - ritual cannibalism and ritual blood magic is after all a thing in Christianity. But I doubt they need more than a few middling size islands in a military exclusion zone with shoot on sight and shoot to kill rules. So they are pissing away million’s by the millisecond. Not even flat brains can really think that would be a good idea!
This reminds me of a profound quote by H L Mencken, "The central belief of every moron is that he is the victim of a mysterious conspiracy against his common rights and just deserts."
The bit about historical figures being fictional reminded me on someone I ran across on a discussion forum several years ago. His claim was that all of physics taught today was a fiction invented around 1930 or so, and they had taken away all the texts that taught "real" physics and replaced them with completely new texts.( And we aren't talking about adding new theories. He claimed that they completely replaced classical physics) It is absolutely amazing the lengths people will go to, when told that reality isn't what they want it to be, in order hold on to their delusions.
They have the perfect setup. First they say so they are all made up. Then make sure to show the paintings of them using tools they can tie to Free Masons so if they do have to admit they are real then they are in on it.
"There's more land out there... more resources." If that was actually the case, wouldn't you think they'd be all over it? What use would be all that real estate and resources if they don't go out there and dig them up. It would be counter productive to keep such a thing a secret. There's no money in it. Or are they suggesting corporations actually go there already and dig up all those precious resources and somehow transport it to the known world?
Given how much these people tend to worship the colonial ear and before, it sounds like they picture the lands as already occupied and they are being prevented from their god given right to it. As a historical note, one of the biggest contributes to the American revolution was Americans being pissed about a treaty that prevented them from simply taking Indian land. I think these people picture something similar, the 'world government' has agreed to not invade someone else's territory, but damn it they are exceptional children of god and deserve free land to exploit, if not for that weak jewish government that is preventing them from taking it!
@@khandimahn9687 I also suspect that a great deal of their anxiety is the idea that OTHER people (read: the jews) might be exploiting it while they (who are truly deserving) are being kept from it. There is a lot of white nationalism and 'natural order' in their framework, much of it energeized by the idea that inferrior people are preventing them from what god intends for them.
Whenever I watch parts of one of their videos I always have to keep in mind that these people are talking with an agenda in mind. The reasoning behind why they make assertions regarding a flat earth, and why they can't possibly accept the reality that the earth is an oblate spheroid. And, unsurprisingly, it always lead back to the same ideological thing. That they can't think any differently than what is stated in the one book they seem to base everything else on. The globe earth isn't the only thing they refuse to accept, of course. Evolution is another that runs contradictory to their, 'good book.' Once you keep this in mind, it explains a lot of the what and why of their arguments. And no amount of empirical, demonstrable data is ever going to change that. They simply don't want to believe what, to the rest of us, is perfectly logical sense. And, they'll assert anything in order to avoid having to accept it. The false equivalency of trying to suggest that ancient people weren't stupid because they knew how to build pyramids and cathedrals, etc. And yet, they had no aircraft, television or knew how to harness and use electricity, petrochemicals or had a proper understanding how diseases spread. They weren't stupid, but they lacked the knowledge to be able to work things out for how they actually were, so instead, pretty much guessed as to why things were how they were, usually implying some omnipotent magic being responsible for anything they didn't have an objective answer for. In fact, it's what kept religion going for as long as it has. Once science and true understanding of how and why came along a lot of these mythical explanations disappeared as they didn't work any more. Except there are those who refuse to accept it and choose to cling onto their belief systems instead. Generally through fear and ignorance. The fear of what they don't, or won't, understand. As with all ideologues, they try desperately to equate disagreement/debunking of their assertions as a form of, 'hatred.' It isn't. RUclips feels obliged to remove content they consider to be misinformation or that pushes an established false narrative. (A least, some of the time.) Certainly with such things as the flat earth that can be disproven without too much trouble. No-one is trying to hide anything. It's there for anyone to find out for themselves. They don't need to be told, certainly by a bunch of ideologues bent on pushing an agenda. The sad part of it all, is that they're say anything to try to suggest there's some kind of, 'cover up', going on, when the reality of the situation is that they have no actual evidence to prove any of their assertions so instead go on this pre-amble in order to conflate and muddy the waters to make it seem as though it's not clear cut as to what the shape of the earth is. They're confidence tricksters trying desperately to convince the weak-minded into believing their nonsense, presumably with profiting from it, (usually financially), in mind. Those who push this agenda certainly aren't trustworthy, and those who follow it are misguided. They deliberately lie and are disingenuous with their assertions as there's no other way they can be. Their, 'facts', don't stand up to even the mildest scrutiny. If they weren't so serious, they'd be funny.
What I'm hearing from their arguments of "there is land out there, with food, natural resources and unexplored areas" is something like "when we're done polluting the air and sea, destroying the wildlife and taking all that can be mined and delved on 'this side', then we can do the same on 'the other side', without the need to ever bother to learning a lesson how to care about the planet that we live on."
@@dertythegrower Probably why there are so many Flat Earthers and other conspiracy theorist. They don't/won't take the time to read serious analysis and only absorb sound bites without question. P.S. I read the entire original post. Wasn't that long and was on point.
Almost all restricted airspace is over land and generally covers military installations or areas like the seats of U.S. government in Washington D.C. Most pilots would avoid Antarctica because they have no reason to be there and because of the dearth of places to land in an emergency.
@@dogwalker666 exactly, it’s not like nobody flies there, just that the reasons for there not being loads of traffic have nothing to do with the airspace being restricted.
@@Everythingwithonehand indeed, Southern hemisphere flights are a lot less because there are less landmasses and people to pay for them, But there is absolutely nothing stopping anyone with a PPL to jump in an aircraft and fly there. One flurf tried to claim the FAA would stop you, he got very upset when I informed him they have no jurisdiction out side of North America.
Over the years I have met a "bush pilot" who works in Antarctica and marine biologists who work there. You know--civilians who have lived and worked there. Been there. And they love it and are happy to talk about their experiences and research. There are thousands of such people. All one has to do is be curious and talk to people with knowledge of a subject. The void of _actual_ research (as opposed to "research") that the Flat Earthers do is vast. Just as none of them could expend the energy to read the Antarctic treaty, but parrot each other.
In 1977 165 passengers plus crew flew around the world in a north - south direction in a Pan Am 747. One leg of the flight went from Cape Town to Auckland, over the South Pole. That alone destroys the flat earth bullshit.
I remember that incident in Bass Strait. It was a fishing boat straying into an area that was being used in a Navy exercise for a week. Their boat was in danger of being swamped by fast moving military ships. Besides Bass Strait is nowhere near Anartica. Tasmania is South of it.
It would have been hilarious if each time thes guys complain about the "globe model confining space" to put a sound bite in from one of their compatriots spouting "Gas pressure needs a container!" "Second law of thermodynamics!". Just to see these guys contradict each other would have been hilarious.
They can only argue one point at a time, and only then to people who don't know that their "facts" are nonsensical. Every lie they come up with requires more lies to sustain it. Eventually it gets too much to cope with, so they have to invent new "theories" that explain why gravity, space, Antarctic travel, satellites, the moon, the sun, stars, perspective, the horizon, acceleration, velocity, angular momentum, atmospheric pressure gradients, and whole host of things that can be used to prove the earth is a sphere are now somehow wrong, and a part of a global conspiracy. They all believe we are in some sort of matrix I suppose. *"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move".* Douglas Adams.
I pointed out to "Nothing" Oakley not so long ago, that the 2nd law of thermodynamics also adress GRAVITY in the texts... I have learned new insults at least...
1:43 I read "Prisoners of Geography" by Tim Marshall just a few months back. It is an excellent book, and provides a very comprehensive explanation as to why geography plays such a large role in international security and conflict. In addition, I have been following your channel for awhile now. I love how your use logic, reason, objective data, and comedy to breakdown the argument and simply arguments to reach everyone.
I'm from Croatia and i can tell you that they did not teach flat earth in schools back in 1930s. But there is quite big flat earth movement here, and also in Bosnia and Serbia.
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Eric Dubay was dumped from the next level.
Seems the flerfs had disagreements
Does Blinkist have the best flat earth science? ;)
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@@ws1982 Was about to mention that, hes not even mention in this movie, couse its Level the movie, just revorked. the producer is Sean Hibbeler with the "Shagalite 5G pyramids"
WTF is that clock at 12:20 ...lmao looks like content ;)
I love how all of them insist that we all don't actually know the flat earth model but won't show us a "correct" model. I Wonder why
Thats exactly what i was thinking, i spent the whole documentary waiting for them to explain, but they never did.
They can't even come to an agreement if the dome exist or not, or what's beyond the wall.
Precisely. There's a bit of disagreement even within the flat earth community. Multiple variations of the 'true' flat earth. At least reality only has the one version!
It's because "they" wouldn't allow them to do the experiments, which is code for we did some and it didn't show what we wanted it too so blame "they" and earth be flat 🤣🌍
Cos ..it ....doesn't exist... perhaps???
It's hilarious how they act like the "pancake earth in space" model is ridiculous, like their "model" is any less absurd.
Also what model, they didn’t offer one to explain what it looks like if it’s not a pancake in space.
@@lcfctom1 based on how much they talk about "extra land" I'm guessing they're pushing the layer cake model where there are other planes forming concentric rings around earth. Or they think earth is an infinite plane.
flying turd has a better ring to it.
Obviously it's Philip Jose Farmer's World of Tiers.
That made me wonder; what IS their model? i thought that "pancake" visual WAS what they believe in?
I love when the flat earthers say, 'You can't go to Antarctica.' I've *been* to Antarctica; no ice wall, no commando penguins, no secret lands.
Obviously you've been paid off by the penguins, we know they're taking over!!!!!
Those goalposts are the easiest to move. You didn't go to the _real_ secret part, and if you did, then you didn't go to the _real_ _real_ secret part.
@@muskyoxes So, the penguins are just dummies in power?! Bet it's the seals! The cute lil fuckers!
Dubay himself refers to "the fact that there are plenty of flights to/from/over Antarctica", which at a stroke destroys the claim that nobody can go there and the claim that there is lots of undiscovered land beyond.
And soon as I read that I imagined penguins standing around in suits and sunglasses carrying guns
Flerfer: "Pictures of the Earth from orbit, or from the moon, are CGI." (shown pictures from before CGI technology). Also Flerfer: "Hey, this guy took a ship to Antarctica, got lost, and found an advanced technological society and more lands, but brought back no proof and no maps. His story is completely legit."
this is just hilarious comment 😂😂
They also say Admiral Byrd went and wrote a diary and one entry was they were flying their single seat aircraft and found a giant hole and decided to fly into it and inside was a whole society living in the center of the planet.
For one, no pilot would ever fly into a giant hole. Some would fly into it if they knew beforehand that there was an equal hole at the very end that took them back to above ground, safely. His son allegedly wrote the diary himself, probably to sell books for profit and wanted some good stories and his father had died so he couldn't be debunked. There is no hole at the south pole that a whole other society lives in. These Flerfers are so cringe. You could fly them up in a Dragon Capsule and when they look out the portholes while floating in space without wires, they would look out and see a round earth. They would immediately agree and say "ok guys the earth is round." However when they get back on earth they will have had time to stew and come up with "so I'm certain what the windows were was fisheye lenses to trick people or they were actually High def 6k screens showing CGI earth and the weightlessness we felt was a trick and we were inside the vomit comet going up and down and the reentry thru the atmosphere was also CGI played on the screen and I saw it glitch out several times and then they filled the capsule with co2 and knocked us out then the airplane dropped us into the ocean to complete the scam so nothing was proved."
I'm Polish and it's shocking for me that some people are questioning that Nicholas Copernicus (Mikołaj Kopernik) existed. He IS a historical figure, well know in Polish history. We have so many records about him, his life and work. Questioning Copernicus existence make Flat Earthers more ridiculous.
facts get in the way of their chosen paranoia.
shows that most of what they do is whitter and whine without checking basic facts... or anything else really.
It's not the first time that they seem to forget that other countries exist. They will regularly offer "proof" of a flat Earth from the perspective of someone who lives in the upper hemisphere, not realizing that the thing they're seeing looks or acts completely different in the southern hemisphere
Well that is them taking the easy way out. Their go to boogeyman is NASA mainly because nearly everything they do shows how wrong they are. So it’s just easier to say that early astronomers and physicists are made up by them and added into history. It lets them narrow the groups to blame. Notice that Weiss implies that no one talks about Eratosthenes until modern times saying no one in his day ever wrote about him and he just expects you to take his word for it.
He then goes to cover his bets showing paintings of these men showing them using measuring tools that he can tie them to the Free Masons with so he has an out. See if they are real, they are part of ‘them’ so we can just dismiss them.
I even know he was from Toruń, as a Dutch person
The idea that "They" whoever they are, are hiding the shape of the earth to hide god is laughable--Is this god so weak that he can't reveal himself to everyone, but relies on a bunch of flat earthers to help him out. Now that's funny.
This is the first I'm hearing of the idea that somehow a flat earth would give any credibility to the existence of God lol how does that even work? And how is God any more or less likely to exist based on the shape of our planet? But hey at least they are attempting to give a reason behind what would be one of the most massive and coordinated cover-ups in history. The precious best explanation I'd heard was it was in order to sell physical globes to people. Which is also hilarious, as if they couldn't sell physical models of the flat earth. But again, at least they're trying 😂🤣
The don't even believe in the God of the Bible, yet use the Bible as infallible truth
It must being exhausting to believe in a flat earth. Constantly talking about 'them' and coming up with more and more ridiculous claims.
The funny thing is, neither the church nor the bible ever bothered with the shape of the earth. Its place in the universe, yes (It of course had to be in the centre), but flat or not was never of any real importance.
@@mathiasfischbach4843 location and motion was the debate, yes....no so much about shape
So, instead of trying to find actual evidence for their claim, flerfs switched to whining about being cancelled. How. Awful.
Yes, the poor victims of a, 'conspiracy' to hide the, 'truth', by those who are able to debunk their assertions with, 'hatred.' Or, as those of us who aren't pushing an agenda call it, empirical, objective, demonstrable evidence.
It's always them corporations and governments with their secret agendas eh?
@@Mart77 Of course. Scapegoat must be designated.
You'll find that's a common theme with flerfs; everything is always someone else's fault.
@@ReValveiT_01 And there is never any real explanation, just some mysterious "THEM" determined to screw common folk over for a no reason
“Thanks Bob” always a classic.
There’s a RUclipsr pilot that has offered to take flat earthers on a flight from Southern South America to Australia which flies over Antarctica. He takes this trip regularly. Please make this happen to shut them up!
Great videos 👍
Lol now I want to pretend to be a flat earther to do the flight :D
What is his channel name?
I'd donate to a kickstarter for this and have the flight recorded and uploaded to RUclips.
"There’s a RUclipsr pilot that has offered to take flat earthers on a flight from Southern South America to Australia which flies over Antarctica. He takes this trip regularl".
Good idea, but I am afraid that even that would just lead to more ad hoc explanations, like "oh the windows on the plane are monitors. You're with the Bilderberg Group/NASA/whatever".
I hope that some of these guys will come around (literally and figuratively speaking), but often, they seem to be stuck in their beliefs. In that way, I deeply admire SciManDan and similar channels for their enormous patience with the flat earthers.
@@shyviking stupid comment. This guy makes thousands of these videos. Why feel sorry for him
"Impossible to get real information now" implying the only real information was on RUclips. So no doing your own research, only parroting what other people say.
Bingo
That's not true. You need to know where to look. If you don't then find out.
Sounds about right. It sure isnt coming from actually learning something. Nah we just watch other on RUclips. That's where the real info is.
@@garyblake9665 Reality is there for anyone, who wants to, to do their own research into it. No RUclips needed.
To be fair, they claimed that their diatribes and "the truth" were being censored EVERYWHERE, not just on RUclips.
I once read a book about how there is extra land that's been hidden, and controlled by a despotic tyrant. It even contained a map.
You get to it via a wardrobe.
😄
Yeah, the worst part was that the tyrant disguised himself as a benevolent lion.
…or by going to North Korea!
My friend Mr. Tumnus used to say the same thing!!
How could they have Turkish Delight when they didn't even have a Turkey?
As an Australian, I laughed out loud when the bit about Bass Strait came up. Also, those guys were in shorts and t-shirts. That ice wall must be warm.
Also taken out of context as they were out fishing when the Navy was doing drills 😂
Nothing to do with flat earth or being too far south
yes, they were making a 3000 km trip with this motorboat. I guess there was a tanker accompanying them...
us Australians dont exist, do we??
And no life vests.
@@Plethorality Damn - I forgot about that. Well, I hope I don't just...
I love the "Google doesn't want you to..." narrative. You then Google a specific term, and get 80% of the results showing the thing they claim is being hidden.
They always use very careful wording when they do their searches. They must do it on purpose it’s the only way to fit their narrative.
They are also trying hard to pull in other fringe conspiracy followers by tying Flat Earth to other groups that seem more legitimate. Note, they toss in anti-vax among others as they go.
flat earth grifters gonna grift
You didn’t know that the only truth on Google is what flat earthers search? Come on 🤣
Flat Earthers: "They're hiding more land and resources because they don't want us to know there's more to explore." Flat Earthers also: "They tell us space is real and there are lots of other planets, but there's nothing out there."
You f sick imagination is out there🤣🤣🤣Can you asshole tell me when and where did you see a curve?thank you y f idiot
Right, do you follow Limitless Space Institute? And have you heard of Dr. Harold White. If not look them up they are funding research into breakthrough technologies for this purpose.
Who needs asteroids made of precious metals when that stuff is just south-er of the south pole anyway?
@@sgtjonmcc What purpose? The OP didn't mention a purpose.
@@davidfaraday7963 FTL, Fusion rockets etc
It was the "extra terrestrial means extra land" that killed me. Didn't see that one coming.
So that means their extraordinary claims are just very ordinary.
& the new telescope in Rome belonging to the Pope, who has an understanding a bit different to the quoted. ;)
When people do not know what Terra is …
The same people would surely think that a titmouse is a well endowed female rodent …
I like where they put a line that said “visual representation”. Good thing they did, it was soooo realistic I was almost fooled.
Yeah, and 'nautical mile' (you know, the reckoning of distance on account of the curvature of the Earth?) has been equated to "Not a mile", as in "Not a real mile!" They hide these 'confessions' in plain sight, you know! You just have to know how to interpret them! "Astronaut" = "Astro-not!"
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I love that they never seem to realize just how many people would have to be on the inside to keep such a secret. Literally every government in the world, including the uncooperative ones like North Korea. Thousands upon thousands of people at places like Google. All the scientists and astronauts.... Millions of people all keeping this secret....
Yup. It's just too silly.
more like billions of people have to be in on it, the secular people of the world number in billions my friend. But you're correct in the rest.
@@bloodmoney88 Everybody except flat earthers themselves then. (and even that is debatable since some flat earthers accuse other flat earthers of being controlled opposition)
@@Tyranastrasza They're all religious, all religion starts in bullshit, just like these ignorant trolls.
I say this about all conspiracy people that think “they” do anything. I mean just look at Monica and Bill Clinton. Only 3 people prolly knew about that and it got out. You don’t think 1/4 of the earths population is getting in on that globe money to not saying anything? If so I have been missing YEARS IF NOT DECADES of missing checks :-)
The part of the Antarctic treaty that everyone seems to forget, it was signed because there were several countries that had claims over Antarctic. So it was decided to make it for all us, leaving it as untouched as possible.
Not just that, but the Antarctic treaty was signed in the 1960s, or late 1950s. It was in the middle of the fucking cold war. Everyone was trying to prevent full nuclear annihilation so they decided that instead of decided one party, or both parties shared the Antarctic. NO ONE DID, a sign of great maturity, honestly.
Why do they always miss that clause in the Antarctic Treaty that says, "Nobody who wears a cowboy hat indoors shall have an opinion on anything."
Come now. He wears it to show he's a Rugged Individualist. You can tell he is because he's just exactly like all the other Rugged Individualists.
Physics Girl literally just did a video about her trip to the Arctic a week ago. You can get a job on any of the several bases in Antarctica during the research seasons for non-research positions. United States Antarctic Program, there are 85 jobs available right now.
Less than 10 minutes. I did my own research. It was amazing. Almost like there's no excuse for this kind of willful ignorance.
Yes but you forgot to turn on the "things I *believe* the bible says - even though I haven't actually read it, and it never actually says the earth is flat" filter.
research? we dont do that here
"Almost like there's no excuse for this kind of willful ignorance."
If there's one thing flerfs are good at, it's coming up with excuses.
And that's basically all it is. Wilful ignorance. The refusal to accept the blatantly obvious because it doesn't fit some ideological narrative.
For them these jobs are either just fakes, or "they" will do a deep background check and only accept people who compltely believe "their" narrative of the globe.
Or they will afterwards control and blackmail everybody when they are at home to force them to hide the truth about the edge of the earth that they have seen.
Or, my favourite, all people who apply to these jobs will be employed on areas far away from the edge of the earth, and be heavily guarded, so that they will not find out the "truth".
Select for yourself which of the above "explanations" you like best :-)
The irony of the English woman stood on a beach espousing flat earth while ships are literally disappearing over the horizon behind her..... like in the worst pantomime, I just want to shout ' IT'S BEHIND YOU!!'.
I think it’s Rachie 00000… She’s immune to irony.
As a Tasmanian, I had to laugh at the Bass Strait bit. At 42 degrees South, it's actually closer to the Equator than it is to the South Pole.
Any clue why they were turned around? I'm assuming it's because they want to check visitors to Tasmania for products that could threaten the island's ecosystem.
I mean, their boat was obviously not very ocean worthy, they were not equipped for a polar expedition. They would likely never have made it to Antarctica, let alone to the south pole. I don't think it's strange if the patrol assumed they were in fact heading for Tasmania.
@@gerritvalkering1068 I'm not really sure as I don't know who they are or what they were doing. It's possible they were near one of the oil rigs - as far as I know there's no other restricted maritime areas in Bass Strait. Or maybe they were doing naval training exercises? Just guesses but if they _were_ trying to get to Antarctica, yeah I doubt they would have made it in that thing.
we are so restricted from going to Antarctica and beyond that literally every flat earther somehow has a 'map' of extra continents. How they got this knowledge when no one is allowed to go? why is every 'map' of these continents looking completely different? mysterious.
Antarctic Logistics a travel company have been flying around Antarctica for ages. A relative, a made keen climber, booked with them to climb Mt Vinson Massif. Seems it's very popular, dedicated climbers like to climb the highest peaks on every continent.
Planes don't fly over the land at the poles, because in the event of a crash, rescue would be pretty much impossible.
@@iami3rian394 There are over 20 runways in Antarctica, along with a number of small ice runways and helicopter pads.
@@iami3rian394 they have made at least one commercial airliner a 747 with 120 paying passengers Pan Am flight 50 that flew around the world by the north south route that crossed Antarctica over the pole in 1977 a one flight 50th anniversary special flight.
@@appresley4071 There are no runways in Antarctica that can take commercial airliners that are allowed (by the ETOPS safety rules) to fly that route (which are the 747, A380, and special extended range A340 and 787 - they need huge runways and a lot of ground facilities). Nor is there sufficient demand to build one that would make commercial sense.
Until recently the largest aircraft flown to Antarctica were C130s and C17s - military aircraft that can cope with ice runways and limited facilities. In the past couple years, a few large airliners have flown there, but they're always chartered for expedition/base support, and most have special modifications to cope with the conditions.
And of course there's literally NO flights at all during the Antarctic winter except for an occasional emergency flight with a twin otter.
"Nobody can go to Antarctica." Tell that to Colin O'Brady who hiked across Antarctica (932 miles in 54 days) in late 2018. I believe that entire journey is pretty well documented.
You misinterpreted them, they mean "nobodies" can go to Antarctica. Because who the hell is Colin O'Brady? Never heard of him!
That's easy to refute: didn't happen. Or CGI. Or it was a film studio. Or he was somewhere else. GPS coordinates? Can be faked.
You won't get a flearthling to admit that the journey happened as it happened.
Lies! All lies! Have you met Colin yourself? Have you been to Antarctica yourself? No! Nobody can go there! They'll shoot you on sight! "They" tell you that so-and-so has been there and explored the South Pole (complete fiction, BTW), trekked across the icy continent with but a sled of supplies, etc. But it's all outright lies, I tell you! But an article that is a work of fiction from several decades ago that tells of more land beyond the Antarctic "Ice Wall" ? Well, now, that you can believe! Why? Because we pick and choose what we want to believe! Anything that lines up with our beliefs is trustworthy, and anything that doesn't is pure hogwash!
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Ranulph Fiennes in the 70s too, did it twice. He even circumnavigated the Earth north-south.
Well the idiots are gonna call him a 'government agent'
I love the whole "RUclips is censoring us!" thing from Flat Earthers. Does never occur to them that RUclips would just not even host the content if they wanted to censor it
Exactly, they have the power to just refuse to host the content. Would be much safer.
Exactly! They could just delete the videos or even the entire channel, claiming some random violation of it's guidelines. RUclips being the big bad censor guy just makes no sense
Yeah RUclips loves flerf shit. Dumb
Just look at shady DIY hack channels - people have been hurt and died, trying to replicate the hacks. And RUclips does nothing to remove demonstrably dangerous content.
Also: Failing to realise that for thousands of years, we did not have Google or RUclips, yet somehow managed to accumulate knowledge, improve on it, decade, by decade, and through millennia of trial and error, experiment, success, and failure, reach the point, of understanding many of the most fundamental aspects of nature, mathematics, and science. Making that scientific knowledge available to anyone who cares to look for it. Sadly, it also now allows any fool, who thinks he is a victim of some massive centuries old "global" conspiracy, to ignore all of that achievement, and accumulated knowledge, and say *"nuh-hu!",* because the bible tells him so.
So proud of my kid. He's 7, and HE knows that the Earth is a sphere.
Every time they claim “No flat-Earther thinks THAT!” I can think of half a dozen flat-Earthers who have made that exact claim. Flat-Earth has no working map or model. The only thing all flat-Earthers agree on is that they think Earth can’t be a globe. And they are wrong.
Well obviously all those flat earthers aren’t REAL flat earthers
@@samlieneck6943 they probably aren’t even true Scotsman either! 🤣🤣🤣
Not even the fact that they don't have a model, it's that they aren't even close to having a working model
Once again two of my favourite arguments: "What if?" and "Think about it!" Always so convincing.
I thought about it and loss brain cells lol
Showing they know they don’t have anything so go right to appealing to emotion.
@@Isolder74 facts. I'm still called a zombie or brainwashed when I use common sense not even the science to debunk their little fantasy lol
@@Isolder74 Maybe that is the way they convince themselves. Probably no idea how to apply skepticism but having a kind of gut feeling and mistaking it with common sense.
"He didn't read the Antarctic Treaty either"
Yes, we know that these guy stopped all reading after they have finished "Winnie the Pooh" because they thought the book was too complicated.
To be honest I think "Winnie the Pooh" is too complicated as well.
why don't you read it? Ohhh you can't read, you need someone to read it for you.
Everytime I get into an argument online with a Flerth about the Antarctic Treaty, I ask if they've read all 300 pages of the treaty. And then I keep going up. I think i'm up to about 900 pages now.
Sadly none have ever fallen for it, mainly because they just defect onto another topic.
Ah yes, Winnie the Pooh, that well known tale of the down trodden Proletariat underclass persecuted by 'The Man' ...
They thought Winnie the Pooh was book to assist them with their toilet training, after being told that 20 was too old to be still wearing nappies.
I'm from Croatia, and I've never heard from my grandparents FE was taught in school...
They keep repeating that they don't think Earth's a snow globe floating in space but non of them actually said what exactly they believe don't you find that odd?
Yeah, they know what it isn't, but they don't know what it is.
They spend most of their time trying to rubbish/diminish factual evidence, rather than providing any to the contrary. The whole argument from incredulity with no explanation of an alternative.
Well to be fair, some of the more biblical literalist flerfers do describe it pretty much as a snow globe, but with the _water on the outside._ The whole flerf concept of the planets and stars being "luminaries" and not solid objects is just misinterpreting parts of Genesis - which they probably have not read, and almost certainly do not understand.
"There's more room for us to get away from child sex traffic"?! Mind blown. Child sex traffic would end if we only had "more real estate". Makes perfect sense.
Of all the things he could have said!!
By definition, more land would equal more good stuff and more bad stuff in equal measures.
I gleefully invite EVERY flat-Earther to go "over the ice wall" and claim their own piece of land to homestead upon.
In fact, I DARE THEM!
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edit: and why did the millionaire dime-store cowboy bring up child sex trafficking? What is he projecting?
get away from child sex trafficking and real estate taxes. he knows that these civillisations out there does not have property tax
Let's face it, none of their assertions make any sense.
He just wants himself a million-acre ranch!
Flat Earthers: "You can only believe what you see with your own eyes, books are all lies"
Also Flat Earthers: "This book from a hundred years ago tells of a magical land beyond Antarctica"
They are very very good at logic! It’s a very peculiar logic, though … only they can understand it.
They use the detail that they were published annually in a magazine as saying it was news not a work of fiction.
I wonder if they know how Pinocchio was originally published?
@@Isolder74 Even better - Farmer in the Sky was published as a serial in Boy's Life magazine.
The literal definition of “true because I said so”
And also THOSE 2 books from a few thousand years ago hold the truth...
Thank you Dan. These videos are so entertaiment. I have been watching almost all of them. This is so amusing.
It's funny how con artists act like debunking them is proof that they're onto something, when dispelling incorrect knowledge and misinformation is part of the pursuit of truth.
Then they will use the 'yur jist h8ters' replies and autoreaponses, so they avoid debate and being disproven..
It's just a joke to begin with. The debunkers are fueling the trolls 😆
@@No_More_Naggers Your optimism is adorable, but these people really are this stupid.
There's no pursuit of truth. The pursuit ended hundreds of years ago when ancient people with less than half of the technology than your dumbass has at your fingertips found out the earth wasn't a pizza.
Given the chance they are attacking each other’s throats in a heartbeat.
Love that flat earthers can never agree on their own model
Dome, infinite plane, gigantic ice wall.
You would think they would at least be getting their stories straight by now. But they seem to be getting more bizarre as time goes on.
"Truth has one version, a lie has many".
[Brian] Are...are ,You, the Judean People's Front?
[Revolutionary Leader] F****ck off.
We're the People's Front of Judea.
My favorite model is the one where they go full circle (lol) and claim that the flat world with the sun floating inexplicably above it is actually part of a giant ice ball with other flat worlds dotted across it.
@@ReValveiT_01 "Truth has one version, a lie has many".
See also: "Chemtrails" or history of Russian stories around downing MH-17.
I love the claim you can't fly in the Arctic Circle, somehow forgetting there are modern cities within the circle.
Canadian here, can confirm our country is fake and we're all paid shills, oh and so are all Russians, and people from Greenland... Greenlanders? What do you call people from Greenland? Oh and Alaskans too
They have circled the area inside the Arctic Ocean. I think they are implying you can’t go near the poles.
Great video again, Sci Man Dan! "Thanks Bob" never gets old! :D
FYI, crater Copernicus on the Moon was named back in 1651. Clearly, people knew about Copernicus back then.
Maybe a few people but lol… bro they didn’t have social media back then so most people didn’t know who he was….Clearly
Obviously the moon didn't exist in 1651, that was invented in 1923 by NASA. (Sarcasm (hopefully) obviously).
@@tmmalone1986 um, I knew who copernicus was in grade school, quite a bit before social media existed. You do understand information was spread just fine before the internet, right?
@@NG-VQ37VHR Misinformation is spread faster these days, too. Newspapers, books, technical journals all required physical publishing, taking time to research, write, proofread, and editorial review. It didn't prevent publishing nonsense, but it made it expensive to publish anything. Nowadays anyone can write whatever they like, research skills involve watching RUclips videos. But that's not everyone; there's still a lot of real knowledge being gathered and published. Just not by the "Level"-headed Flat Earth believers in Dan's video.
@@NG-VQ37VHR I'm almost certain he was joking.
We don't need a conspiracy by google, flat earthers do a perfectly good job of debunking themselves
Desperately trying to find 1 proof that would make their idea real - while there is 6000 different explanations how flat earth model is ridiculous
Flat Earthers are a lot like Amber Heard - everyone is out to get them and they are never responsible for any of their own actions. They are victims and everyone else is evil. It's like Dunning-Kruger and Narcissus had a son, and that son was called, Flerf.
@@aaronmicalowe their whole scheme is that they throw out some made up claim and everybody has to prove it's untrue. "U know sun is 300miles away and about thr size of an SUV"
@@Mart77 What model. They don't have one and they refuse to present one because they know it means committing to something that can be refuted. They just misdirect at best.
Thanks Bob
Man it must be so hard and sad to live like this. Constantly thinking everything you hear is a lie and complete misunderstanding of the world.
They need to feel special. They are by and large average people with empty lives and no respect given to them by friends and family. So they find other people that believe the same nonsense they do, create little clubs or communities so they can feel a part of something that no one else understands.
@@RealityDysfunction85 You mean … like religion? Crusades, holy wars, torture to make people agree with them … and a steady income stream for the leaders?
Yet rely on Science and the facts of the world "by 'THEY' " for every other aspect of life.
I was watching one of your debunks of Dubay when I got the notification
I still find it hilarious that someone once told the flerfers that the North Atlantic treaty forbids anyone going to the North pole and they all believe it without question. Not a single one of them actually bothered to read the treaty to fact-check the claim, which just sums up Flat Earth perfectly...
The majority of people don't know their local laws either. Happily ignorant are the masses.
It's the Antarctic Treaty, not North Atlantic Treaty.
so flat earthers now think that NATO says that you cant go to the north pole?
I know a group of people who have visited both the North Pole and the South Pole and have even climbed Mt. Everest, along with many other adventures. They're a family of adventurers who live in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, and they've been featured on a great many television shows over the years. They even brought one of their teenagers with them to Antarctica, and to the summit of Everest!
Furthermore, just a few years ago a man literally walked all the way across Antarctica! Apparently, he was following in the footsteps of another man who tried the same feat, but died only about 50 or 60 km short of safety.😞
So Flerfers claiming that "nobody is allowed to explore Antarctica" is, at best, entirely disingenuous or, at worst, absolutely astonishing stupidity and ignorance...and with Flerfers, it's almost always the latter!🤣
When, oh, when will these Flerfers finally get a clue?🤣 Probably never, but we should be grateful for their existence just the same. Why is that, exactly? So that no matter how much of a screw-up any if us might be, we can still find people who make us look positively brilliant by comparison, that's why!🤣 Textbook Dunning-Kreuger effect in action, Flerfers are, yet they wonder why they're so resoundingly ridiculed? Egads, but those Flerfers are dense!
@@That70sGuitarist Many have explored both poles. Scott, Barents, Hillary, the ill fated Belgica Expedition spent nearly two years trapped in the Antarctic in 1897! Anyone can go there today, besides those on tourist cruises, you just need a permit due to it's strict wildlife preservation and often inhospitable conditions. The countries under the Antarctic Treaty also need permission.
So happy to see you take this one on! I definitely enjoy the longer content, myself.
You know, when I was young, I lived near one of the Great Lakes. I loved to spend time at the beach during the summer. I would watch boats pass over the horizon, the body of the boat first, until there was just the mast visible, and that disappeared as well. I remember thinking, as a little kid, how cool it was that I could see evidence first-hand of the massive globe we lived on.
So there are more intricate ways to prove it more firmly, of course, but when the flerfs are like "Does it feel like you're on a giant spinning ball?" it's like - yes, the world really does look the way it would if I lived on a giant ball turning at a rate of one revolution per day.
Its ReFrAcTiOn AnD pErSpEcTiVe idk whaT tHoSe MeaN bUt Ik iTs ThE tRuTh
Flat-earther: Blah, blah, blag, perspective... blah, blah, blah, vanishing point... blah blah, blah, light distortion. 🤣🤣
Yes, and that is the sort of awe and wonder that is missing from their blinkered perspective. Like you, my sense of awe when stopping to observe these things, is still there, even now, as a cranky 60 year old. When you think the Bible is a scientific and historical document, and everything else is just a lie, then your world must be a very bleak place.
You'd think simple concepts like that would be accepted by simple minds, but no... 🙄
@@bobblum5973 They deny what you can see with your own eyes. They ironically send me links to youtube videos...so much for suppression and observing stuff for yourself!
As a radio nerd, I'm still waiting for one of these flat Earth "experts" to explain how a radio signal works on a flat earth.
Ever heard of magic?
Ditto.
As a retired electronic engineer telecommunications (ICT) I'm still awaiting the same explanation on radio propagation techniques used to overcome earth's curve vs radio propagation on a flat earth.
I'd be happy if one of them could adequately explain sunrise/sunset, moonrise/moonset, and the way the horizon works.
Bounces off the dome - duh!
Or one of my favourites,
Why?
Because?
17:10 "Remember, the word extraterrestrial means extra land." Okay...and does extramarital mean an extra marriage? You know these root words and prefixes have definitions you can look up, right? Extra- *when used as a prefix* means outside, except, or beyond. Terrestrial means of, on, or relating to Earth. So an extraterrestrial is something from outside or beyond Earth. Just like an extramarital affair is an affair with someone from outside of your marriage, not an extra marriage. Thank you for joining me for this segment of "Teaching Words to Dumbasses"
Do these people forget that older people exists? I'm in my fifties, my grandparents would have been around 120 now. They had this amazing globe, it was already an antique when they bought it, and my grandmother would point out on it where her sister emigrated to (from Norway) in America. She would have laughed out loud if someone was to tell her that the earth was flat.
They also had a 10 volume encyclopedia from 1913, wich my father still have, that I loved digging into as a kid. The earth was a globe in it of course.
These lies about the globe being taught in school being a recent thing is so ridiculously easy to debunk that I can't belive they bother.
I'm 65 and I have a full Encyclopedia Britannica from 1888.
Wonderful stuff...
@@ebonkrieg that is so cool! I despise how some folk like to insinuate that people from the past were stupid where in reality, these older generations were likely on average much more resourceful, self-sufficient and resiliant than today's flerfing idiots. I bet those old tomes have a veritable wealth of interesting knowledge that mostly still holds up today!
@@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK Indeed; I consider it foundational knowledge.
Extraterresrial is a word taken directly from latin. In latin "Extra" means outside and terra means either land or Earth. So it means "outside of Earth", not "extra land" like in Free bonus land :D This guy tries to overthrow hundreds of years of science but fails in knowledge of his own language. I know this and English is my second language.
I was thinking the same thing! They just confidently make a claim that a 7 year old could debunk. 🤦♂️
Exactly. This shows without a doubt that they are so lazy, that they can't even be bothered to look up the meaning of a word before confidently stating what it is on camera. The whole enterprise, where it isn't just some Poe cynically making money out of ignorant people, is just the lazy way to explain a world that baffles them, because of their lack of education.
Well, I don't know about that. Doesn't "extradite" mean more dites?
And "extraordinary" lots of ordinaries
@@barrylangille3523 Can never have too many dites, mate. I love them. Extra for me, please!
@@barrylangille3523 It is actually funny that they think extra means more. That is if you use extra as its own work. An extra arm is an arm that isn't part of the normal system. That is what extra means. Extraordinary means outside the ordinary, extraterrestial means outside the terrestial, or basically outside of earth.
But I don't mind some extra dites... or some extra terrestials... thinking about it anything living on earth is a terrestial, so if you have a baby you create an extra terrestial.
I love how he said "if anyone would hear a flat earther out and really look into it." We can't get enough of this stuff.
I made it 15 min into the documentary and then I could not watch anymore. Thank you for taking 1 for the team.
Fortunately my 7 year old granddaughter is being taught the truth, she had 2 reading books last week, one about the moon, one about space. We read the moon one then looked at the moon through binoculars & saw the craters and shadows at the terminator.
That's very cool of you!
Also a balloon and a cellphone with a foam cooler and rope.. easily proves it in one hour of launching the camera up to record the fall
put a gopro in the balloon, and record.. proves them incorrect in a five minute clip ha
I’m going to use my drone to replay sunset next
@@tornagawn Did the terminator said "I will be back"? 😁
That's brave of her to film beside an ocean where you can clearly see the curve once the ships go over the horizon.
I think that's why she does it; to challenge our OR THOR i TAY!
Google and the Clinton's project holograms to deceive the eyes of the unbelievers! 🤦♀️
Less Brave and more stupid and painfully unaware of the obvious 🤣
I feel like she's brave trying to stand upright and talk at the same time. It's brave of any flerf to attempt this.
@@turboguppy3748 yes, perhaps she has a walker just out of screen, & a catching aid of some kind... even a friend out of shot, arms out stretched, perhaps that's what they do at any religious sermon, arms outstretched ready to catch their flerf.
Cheers Dan. Got a stomach bug and had my head in a bucket all night. Needed a little 'pick me up!
GWS
That bug with channel subscriptions disappearing was happening for a while on a lot of different types of channels.
Loving the longer episodes hope to see more of them.
"Flat-Earthers are Right. Right with that there is something wrong with the World.
They perceive a Problem, they think somethings wrong with the World and yes, it is.
Earth has massive Issues.
Flat-Earthers, if i had Advice for you, it would be: Your feelings are valid, your Arguments are not.
So keep searching... cause this aint it, Chief"
-Hbomberguy.
This Legendary RUclipsr... i wanna add something and its literally
both for Flat-Earthers and my fellow GLOBEHEADS (1 is more likely
to listen, but oh well),
but if you perceiy, at any Level, Helplessness or Problems being a Thing,
then please use 'Funny Education' and 'Smart Entertainment 'like Sci Man Dan,
to learn more and keep yourself Updated. RUclipsrs like Some More News
and Illuminaughtii tackle Issues. I think tackling is the right word here.
So what i guess i wanna say is: Dont 'just' laugh at Flerfs (though dont forget to do!)
but also be updated via these Channels and more.
Cause Fact is: We can do Something.
Agree!
I would love to bring a flat earther to Newgrange on the winter solstice and ask them how would this work on a flat earth. Newgrange is dated around 3200bc
A camera on a balloon is already proven all over this for almost twenty solid year in a row now.. 😆
"There is so much more land to discover", yes we call it space exploration, there is a big universe out there to discover which so many planets. Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is.
And you thought it was a long way down the street to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
Even locally, there is room between us and our moon to put all the other planets in our solar system. Space is unfathomably vast. Inconceivably vast. As you said, mind bogglingly vast.
Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some. Much bigger than that in fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real 'wow, that's big', time.
And the total population … ?
@@kernicterus1233 zero. Well close enough, if you divide a finite population by infinity.
Thanks, Dan👍🏻
Flat Earther: "You're misrepresenting our beliefs! That snow globe model is ridiculous!"
Me: "okay, so give me YOUR model"
Flat Earther:
Flat Earther: >:(
Flat Earther: "You're misrepresenting our beliefs! That snow globe model is ridiculous!"
Me: "okay, so give me YOUR model"
Flat Earther: Have you seen a snow globe & Pizza ??
Flat Earther: "You're misrepresenting our beliefs! That snow globe and pancake model is ridiculous!"
Me: "okay, so give me YOUR model"
Flat Earther: Well... its like a flapjack or a pizza with a dome over it... resembling a snow globe.
That is exactly what I tell them. If you can't show me an accurate model of the flat Earth, *AND YOU CAN'T,* then STFU. If you can't EVEN show me how you _THINK_ it works, then what kind of moron would believe that it does.
Me: "okay, so give me YOUR model"
Flat Earther: "I don't follow any model"
" "
FE: Do your own research!
Well, I was _almost_ convinced. Then they started with all those clips of the land beyond Antarctica. Imagine my shock when it all proved to be Cee Gee Eye.
AND they claim that EVERYTHING by NASA is CGI...worst hypocrites EVER.
funny thing is, even if we all suddenly started believing in flat earth, we'd still have to use the globe model to predict eclipses, seasons, sunrise/sunset times, phases of the moon, and for navigation. flat earth can't do any of that.
So theres massive amounts of land beyond the ice wall, lush green forests, sparkling blue water, and tropical paradises. So what is keeping that ice from melting? What scientific concept is keeping just that section of the "flat" earth cold enough to stay frozen? What happens to their model of the sun and moon with regards to this hidden land? Do they have their own sun? What heats/illuminates that which is past the wall?
oh, the reminds me of "the savage land" in Marvel Comics, where Dinosaurs still live...
Congratulations for putting way more thought into trying to answer that question than any flat earther ever has.
I like how it echoed her saying guilty like she said something profound and not just nonsense
I have never ever hear any sensible argument for WHY would anyone hide the shape of the planet from people.
Also I must have missed the point when I got into this conspiracy after I started work in telecommunication.
If you've heard it's to turn people away from God, that's it. They tend to avoid saying it, but that's flat earth at its core. Most flat earthers believe that the way to heaven rests in denying reality.
It's always "to hide/keep us from god/the creator/etc". One of them said it in this video. Christo-fascists angry that science has so many leaving their cult("religion").
Also, why would a flerfer care? Apparently they dont even need a proper model of the earth to do their "job" or live their life or whatever.
It's to hide the majesty of God. So instead of our actual vast amazing universe we have some pissy little dome and a few stars that look like germs.
They’re human beings that can’t deal with their insignificance and need to feel special. If they had put all that energy into actually learning things and making something of their lives they might’ve gotten noticed for all the right reasons.
What really throws me off is how they think that just because something is old, that makes it correct, and demonstrable ... not as though technology keeps evolving to a point where we can more accurately understand the world around us (Thanks Bob!)
Logical fallacy of appeal to antiquity.
The great thing about science is that it is constantly checking and (when there is evidence) correcting itself, unlike flat-earthers who deny the evidence and then have to spin a more and more complex web of lies to try to fit their ideas into what we see.
The biggest irony is that ALL these flerf use youtube to create revinue yet apparently it hates them.
3:56 At first I was like "is she wearing a stolen sweater?"
they all have those clap on mics it seems, not sure why they are so big and square... wireless maybe
Glad I wasn’t the only one thinking that.
Same lmao
Yep, same here pmfs.
It's the white version of the "Rode Wireless GO" microphone. (The rest of them seem to be using the black one).
Those guys in the boat with the warship were all clearly dressed for a trip to Antarctica. It's a good thing they got turned away by the navy, they were really only concerned that they might catch a cold if they let them carry on.
The video on screen literally says it's no where near Antarctica, Flurfs can't read a map.
@@dogwalker666 .
About 2,000 miles from the shores of Antarctica.
@@grahvis indeed just off the coast of tasmania.
Rather nasty of the navy to spoil their day of fishing, I never realised that Tassy was that far south.. The things you learn ;) hehehe
A day-trip in a speedy launch doesn’t constitute a serious attempt at reaching the Antarctic. Another deflection of how to get there, by straying into a known, regulated, mapped zone, elsewhere. The underlying point is that, in their stupidity, they’re a danger to themselves and to those equally naive persons who take the baton of flerfdom.
Ohhhh I’ve been waiting for this one! Let’s get the popcorn!
"Thanks, Bob."
Always makes me chuckle.
When we tell people to "look it up," or "it's on the worlds biggest library of information; the internet,"
This is not what we imagined would have been the result.
First time I've heard of this crazy 'land exclusion' theory, it's a lovely new twist!
Also, how would having more land stop all their children being kidnapped or trafficked? I feel that is a very, very specific concern for a lot of these guys.
People tend to embrace more than one conspiracy theory so I'm assuming that they're part of Q-Anon too. Could be wrong but some of the other things, like the guy talking about taxes, make me suspect that.
He says at 13:44 that with more land, "we" could take the children (I assume) and get away from the child sex traffickers. Because as we all know, it's the lack of space that makes sex trafficking possible. 🤨🤨
@@MikeKlaren To my understanding, it only becomes trafficking BECAUSE there is space to traffic from and to, looks like I've opened a can of worms!
When he said about getting away from all these people kidnapping our children, I'm like what people, whose children? Did I miss something on the news?
@@MikeKlaren I think they might have the wrong idea about the Pied Piper's intentions--he wasn't taking the children away to save them.
"We found someone in Croatia..."
Now that's some irrefutable proof!
"we found one person in a country of 4 million who agrees with us! checkmate!"
Not sure they could find Croatia on a map, lol
Isn't that the place in the Bible where "Croation" came from ?? 😂
Someone, no way to verify it and picking a place they think can’t be checked easily.
He might as well have said someone in OZ.
Keep them coming!!!!
One of my favorite photographers did a photo workshop class in Antarctica last year with 3 or 4 of his fellow photographers to teach people who wanted to take that trip and learn photography. They’re planning on doing another workshop in Antarctica in 2024. Didn’t seem to have any issues getting there. They said the hardest part wasn’t getting permission to go, but the actual travel getting there was bad.
13:57
Okay I gotta list some things everyone cares about and not do a self report
. . .
Nailed it
I didn’t realize they were secretly socialists.
@@non-exist-ent Yeah, the inclusion of things like "free water" among the other kinds of things he listed really threw me off.
But thinking about it more, he probably didn't mean it in a socialist sense, but an "I want to be able to use as much water for my farmland as I want with nobody telling me to stop" kind of selfish thing.
Flat Earthers: "It's a flying pancake in space with a globe over it"
Also Flat Earthers: "It's not flying pancake in space with a globe over it!"
I love flat earther infighting.
The only infighting between globers...? globbers? Whatever, sane people , is which direction is up.
I guess there might be some infighting regarding sphere vs oblate spheroid, but probably not a lot.
@@antilight13 All Globers tend to agree "UP" is toward the sky.
@@billytaylor6604 but that's relative. A few degrees away and your up is my left, right, down... Who knows!?
@@antilight13 The "fights" between sphere/oblate spheroid as shapes of Earth are just pedantic fights. Earth's deviations from a sphere are just minimal: ruclips.net/video/jffQVdJdoKQ/видео.html
@@firedragon77777 We say that the Earth is a sphere/globe because its deviations from a sphere/globe are just minimal: ruclips.net/video/jffQVdJdoKQ/видео.html
"The word extraterrestrial means EXTRA LAND..." No it doesn't; the extra in EXTRATERRESTRIAL is not a separate word there... its a PREFIX meaning from OUTSIDE OF THE EARTH or its atmosphere. Colossal sphincters these people.
Oh, you think linguistic subtleties like that are going to jell with them? Subtleties... When the blatant horizon is blatantly staring them blatantly in their face! With boats and the entire sun sinking below it, bottom first... When bridges and pylons take a very obviously curved path over the horizon...
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hahaha this was the highlight of the video, made me laugh so hard
@@akedi2734 Are you talking about a point in the video?
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@@srinivastatachar4951 17:10 approx
@@akedi2734 "Extra land?" Oh, yeah, that is hilarious! As I pointed out elsewhere, they love playing fast and loose with terminology like that! For example, they say that they've hidden clues to the conspiracy in plain sight, like the fact that they call the mile adjusted for the curvature of the earth, the unit used by sailors to navigate significant distances over water, the 'nautical mile,' because, you know, it's 'not-a-mile'! Or that 'astronaut' = 'astro-not!' Sigh!
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"NASA uses CGI-images!!" - flat earth documentarys used graphics from some 3rd class computergame makes sense
Quote from the description of the Bass Strait video: "Running out to sea on a public (unrestricted) course we've traversed 100's of times before we suddenly get intercepted by WARSHIP HOBART that is passing by and told to leave the area."
Probably was a once in a lifetime experience for these guys.
military exercises by the Royal Australian Navy: *exist *
Flat Earther: "Yup, that's proof it's flat, told ya"
Probably a Thursday War or the RAN’s equivalent.
I just realized that Flat Earth believers are probably the type that, when driving around and everyone pulls over to let a police, fire, or other emergency vehicle race by with sirens and lights going, they're the ones who pull out behind those vehicles to get an escort through traffic!
some flattard claimed that there must be a coverup because some supposedly got arrested for trying to go to Antarctica...
so i did some research on that guy:
he went to Antarctica and back with NO problems or interference, then 3 YEARS LATER he got arrested near the NORTH POLE when he tried to sneak into RUSSIA!
wow.
Those liars! I'm a 79 year old Californian, and we heard about Magellan in school. Liars!
"All of history is fake! Except of course all the bits we agree with to prove that history is fake."
Haha, I had to laugh. I live in Tasmania and there are jobs advertised each year for people who want to go to Antarctica. Electricians, Cooks, Builders etc. I actually know people who have worked there. Hobart is a main port connecting with Antarctica. Qantas also do sightseeing flights down there.
All they do is say well prove it! If you produce someone who worked in Antarctica they then just say, he’s lying. They are the pinnacle of dishonesty.
"You can't fly in certain areas near the arctic circle"
Well, that's a comment that didn't age well, given that due to current political conditions all flights between Asia and Europe now have to go over the north pole.
The dunning krueger effect should just be renamed to the flat earther effect
Just a thought....if there are vast continents past 'the ice wall' how are they lit? The Sun is circling our little bit lol. Is the dome bigger than they told us too? They really need a whiff of reality. As always, great vid Dan.
And how can they be warm enough to live on? Let me guess extra suns.
They are being stopped from looking? It doesn’t look like they are very confined. It would be so great and that’s why flat earth is so important? Problem is if they don’t even try going and looking it makes no difference to their lives if there is a utopia or lovely free land past Antarctica.
Star-ception
I'm very disappointed in the highly advanged civilazations past the ice wall where you don't have to pay for your water. Why don't they fly over it and prove to us that they exist!?
@@unseenredalert1470 their fictional Antarctic Treaty ban is very convenient there. It makes it easy to make claims with zero need to offer empirical evidence.
There are hudreds on internal contradictions in the Flat Earth theory by which they literally debunk themselves. Of course, they never mention the contradictions in the same video except by accident. Thanks Bob!
I love that they're claiming there are all these lands and resources, but insisting that our political leaders are looking at that potential power and influence and saying "Oh nooo, don't want any of that".
I always imagined that the flerfers just imagine the world leaders giggling and frolicking on the open fields like children at an empty beach.
I wonder what they think the value of these vast lands is if people are not allowed there. How do they grow cattle and wheat, mine silver and gold, extract uranium and rare earth metals for smartphones and computers, drill oil, build cars and helicopters and so on and so on … without people there?
The land is worthless unless you use it - for example to traffic children, clone politicians and do beauty surgery on our sauroid overlords to look like human leaders … or maybe farm humans for food and for their blood - ritual cannibalism and ritual blood magic is after all a thing in Christianity.
But I doubt they need more than a few middling size islands in a military exclusion zone with shoot on sight and shoot to kill rules. So they are pissing away million’s by the millisecond. Not even flat brains can really think that would be a good idea!
This reminds me of a profound quote by H L Mencken, "The central belief of every moron is that he is the victim of a mysterious conspiracy against his common rights and just deserts."
Mencken was such a sexist! The original quote used "he", not "they". There are "she" morons too, LOL
That's a great quote. I'd never heard of Mencken before.
Is that really by Mencken? I cannot imagine he would have made such a whopping grammatical error.
@@paullambert8701 Said the perfect example.
Excellent. Keep up the good work!
The bit about historical figures being fictional reminded me on someone I ran across on a discussion forum several years ago. His claim was that all of physics taught today was a fiction invented around 1930 or so, and they had taken away all the texts that taught "real" physics and replaced them with completely new texts.( And we aren't talking about adding new theories. He claimed that they completely replaced classical physics) It is absolutely amazing the lengths people will go to, when told that reality isn't what they want it to be, in order hold on to their delusions.
Sounds like Thunderbolts project
They threw away some Steam-age topics like mechanics, gas physics, thermal cycles etc. from the school physics.
They have the perfect setup. First they say so they are all made up. Then make sure to show the paintings of them using tools they can tie to Free Masons so if they do have to admit they are real then they are in on it.
"There's more land out there... more resources." If that was actually the case, wouldn't you think they'd be all over it? What use would be all that real estate and resources if they don't go out there and dig them up. It would be counter productive to keep such a thing a secret. There's no money in it. Or are they suggesting corporations actually go there already and dig up all those precious resources and somehow transport it to the known world?
"They" don't want extra resources available to drive down prices since "They" want to control all the wealth?
Given how much these people tend to worship the colonial ear and before, it sounds like they picture the lands as already occupied and they are being prevented from their god given right to it.
As a historical note, one of the biggest contributes to the American revolution was Americans being pissed about a treaty that prevented them from simply taking Indian land. I think these people picture something similar, the 'world government' has agreed to not invade someone else's territory, but damn it they are exceptional children of god and deserve free land to exploit, if not for that weak jewish government that is preventing them from taking it!
Exactly. If that land existed we'd be colonizing and exploiting it.
@@khandimahn9687 I also suspect that a great deal of their anxiety is the idea that OTHER people (read: the jews) might be exploiting it while they (who are truly deserving) are being kept from it. There is a lot of white nationalism and 'natural order' in their framework, much of it energeized by the idea that inferrior people are preventing them from what god intends for them.
"the ancients didn't know how to build pyramids." What!
Also, the new flat earther stood at the coast, with ships going over the horizon behind her.
Huh, I see you don't understand perspective.
“You can’t go to Antarctica”
… Searches for flights to Antarctica.
Yes, you can.
Next.
Whenever I watch parts of one of their videos I always have to keep in mind that these people are talking with an agenda in mind. The reasoning behind why they make assertions regarding a flat earth, and why they can't possibly accept the reality that the earth is an oblate spheroid. And, unsurprisingly, it always lead back to the same ideological thing. That they can't think any differently than what is stated in the one book they seem to base everything else on. The globe earth isn't the only thing they refuse to accept, of course. Evolution is another that runs contradictory to their, 'good book.' Once you keep this in mind, it explains a lot of the what and why of their arguments. And no amount of empirical, demonstrable data is ever going to change that. They simply don't want to believe what, to the rest of us, is perfectly logical sense. And, they'll assert anything in order to avoid having to accept it.
The false equivalency of trying to suggest that ancient people weren't stupid because they knew how to build pyramids and cathedrals, etc. And yet, they had no aircraft, television or knew how to harness and use electricity, petrochemicals or had a proper understanding how diseases spread. They weren't stupid, but they lacked the knowledge to be able to work things out for how they actually were, so instead, pretty much guessed as to why things were how they were, usually implying some omnipotent magic being responsible for anything they didn't have an objective answer for. In fact, it's what kept religion going for as long as it has. Once science and true understanding of how and why came along a lot of these mythical explanations disappeared as they didn't work any more. Except there are those who refuse to accept it and choose to cling onto their belief systems instead. Generally through fear and ignorance. The fear of what they don't, or won't, understand.
As with all ideologues, they try desperately to equate disagreement/debunking of their assertions as a form of, 'hatred.' It isn't. RUclips feels obliged to remove content they consider to be misinformation or that pushes an established false narrative. (A least, some of the time.) Certainly with such things as the flat earth that can be disproven without too much trouble. No-one is trying to hide anything. It's there for anyone to find out for themselves. They don't need to be told, certainly by a bunch of ideologues bent on pushing an agenda. The sad part of it all, is that they're say anything to try to suggest there's some kind of, 'cover up', going on, when the reality of the situation is that they have no actual evidence to prove any of their assertions so instead go on this pre-amble in order to conflate and muddy the waters to make it seem as though it's not clear cut as to what the shape of the earth is. They're confidence tricksters trying desperately to convince the weak-minded into believing their nonsense, presumably with profiting from it, (usually financially), in mind. Those who push this agenda certainly aren't trustworthy, and those who follow it are misguided. They deliberately lie and are disingenuous with their assertions as there's no other way they can be. Their, 'facts', don't stand up to even the mildest scrutiny. If they weren't so serious, they'd be funny.
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sure not readin all that.. tldr
What I'm hearing from their arguments of "there is land out there, with food, natural resources and unexplored areas" is something like "when we're done polluting the air and sea, destroying the wildlife and taking all that can be mined and delved on 'this side', then we can do the same on 'the other side', without the need to ever bother to learning a lesson how to care about the planet that we live on."
@@unseenredalert1470 yeah. Wishful thinking at its finest.
I think it’s just run of the mill arrogance, ignorance and narcissism.
@@dertythegrower Probably why there are so many Flat Earthers and other conspiracy theorist. They don't/won't take the time to read serious analysis and only absorb sound bites without question.
P.S. I read the entire original post. Wasn't that long and was on point.
Great to see Bob chipping in. Thanks Dan and keep up the good work.
Almost all restricted airspace is over land and generally covers military installations or areas like the seats of U.S. government in Washington D.C. Most pilots would avoid Antarctica because they have no reason to be there and because of the dearth of places to land in an emergency.
Except for the pleasure flights and the flights to the bases.
@@dogwalker666 exactly, it’s not like nobody flies there, just that the reasons for there not being loads of traffic have nothing to do with the airspace being restricted.
@@Everythingwithonehand indeed, Southern hemisphere flights are a lot less because there are less landmasses and people to pay for them,
But there is absolutely nothing stopping anyone with a PPL to jump in an aircraft and fly there. One flurf tried to claim the FAA would stop you, he got very upset when I informed him they have no jurisdiction out side of North America.
Over the years I have met a "bush pilot" who works in Antarctica and marine biologists who work there. You know--civilians who have lived and worked there. Been there. And they love it and are happy to talk about their experiences and research. There are thousands of such people. All one has to do is be curious and talk to people with knowledge of a subject. The void of _actual_ research (as opposed to "research") that the Flat Earthers do is vast. Just as none of them could expend the energy to read the Antarctic treaty, but parrot each other.
In 1977 165 passengers plus crew flew around the world in a north - south direction in a Pan Am 747. One leg of the flight went from Cape Town to Auckland, over the South Pole.
That alone destroys the flat earth bullshit.
I remember that incident in Bass Strait. It was a fishing boat straying into an area that was being used in a Navy exercise for a week.
Their boat was in danger of being swamped by fast moving military ships. Besides Bass Strait is nowhere near Anartica. Tasmania is South of it.
It would have been hilarious if each time thes guys complain about the "globe model confining space" to put a sound bite in from one of their compatriots spouting "Gas pressure needs a container!" "Second law of thermodynamics!". Just to see these guys contradict each other would have been hilarious.
They can only argue one point at a time, and only then to people who don't know that their "facts" are nonsensical. Every lie they come up with requires more lies to sustain it. Eventually it gets too much to cope with, so they have to invent new "theories" that explain why gravity, space, Antarctic travel, satellites, the moon, the sun, stars, perspective, the horizon, acceleration, velocity, angular momentum, atmospheric pressure gradients, and whole host of things that can be used to prove the earth is a sphere are now somehow wrong, and a part of a global conspiracy. They all believe we are in some sort of matrix I suppose.
*"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move".* Douglas Adams.
I pointed out to "Nothing" Oakley not so long ago, that the 2nd law of thermodynamics also adress GRAVITY in the texts...
I have learned new insults at least...
_How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, Eric?_
Indefinite times.
As goes the saying: In to one ear, out to the other, with nothing in between.
@@christianege4989 It has to go in the ear in order to go out the other.
1:43 I read "Prisoners of Geography" by Tim Marshall just a few months back. It is an excellent book, and provides a very comprehensive explanation as to why geography plays such a large role in international security and conflict. In addition, I have been following your channel for awhile now. I love how your use logic, reason, objective data, and comedy to breakdown the argument and simply arguments to reach everyone.
Agree that is a great book
I'm from Croatia and i can tell you that they did not teach flat earth in schools back in 1930s. But there is quite big flat earth movement here, and also in Bosnia and Serbia.