This was a terrible video that didn't even mention the two main indisputable evidences of a spherical Earth that flatearthers can easily verify for themselves. 1) The Moon flipping upside down when we travel from one hemisphere to the other. 2) Two counter-rotating celestial poles. No flatearther has EVER been able to explain those two simple things, and for such prominent so called 'science educators' to not even mention them in this vid means that they have badly failed in their primary aim. And for the woman to say that she 'didn't even know where to start' was just downright unprofessional. No wonder there are so many flerfers in the US if these are the best 'educators' over there. And their condescending attitude will only alienate flerfers even more.
@@donpettyandthespacefakers1798 Yes it is. Why does the sun set? Why can't you see africa from the east coast of America with good enough binoculars? Why do things fall?
The sun just goes away you can bring back the sun into focus when it allegedly goes over the curved horizontal line with nice optics you cannot see Africa from the coast because the atmosphere is dense things fall because they’re heavier than air ,helium balloons, smoke, birds just defy all rules of the theory of gravity or is it because they’re lighter than air
@@donpettyandthespacefakers1798 you do realize birds fly and generate lift with their wings right? Also once the sun is completely below the horizon the only thing you would be able to see it with us x-ray vision. So flat earthers all think they are Superman??? Please please provide video evidence of any of this. Not just some guy saying it. Thats all I ever hear and see are people saying it. I can say jupiter is made of cheese and while you can't prove me wrong, it doesn't mean I am right.
@Yusuf Best Your opinions don't affect anything and yes some of us do like having uniquely worded insults because you guys are a source of entertainment in the same way that a zoo exhibit is
I used to ask myself "why bother arguing with these idiots?". Then I realized "shit, these people get to vote, someone has to be responsible for teaching them something"
It's not just that. Not only do they vote, they also spread all kinds of misinformation. We could have beaten COVID just like we crushed Polio back when people trusted vaccines and were eager to get them. Now people listen to whatever garbage gets poured into their ears on the Internet, so instead of going to their doctor and taking their medicine, they were going to Tractor Supply and jacking themselves full of a horse-sized dose of Ivermectin. This isn't a funny little harmless fad belief. Flerfers lied, people died.
It is very hard to reason with a flat earth believer. You have to actually sit down with them and from a relationship of teacher/student in order for them to slowly realize the evidence we have. Simply debating them or telling them to do research isnt enough since they purposely do not look into any form of evidence that contradicts their views
@@godisbollocks Oh I know. The ones who aren't doing it for money or attention, the ones who truly believe it? I believe they may be suffering from a schizotypal disorder. "Magical thinking" is one of the symptoms.
@@timm8998 Yeah that and seasons and sunsets happening. It’s insane to me that people can believe the earth is flat when even the most basic observations disprove it
Except you are assuming that teaching is simply having the student studying the right answers to pass the test under a controlled learning environment. “The mark of an educated mind is the ability to entertain a thought without having to adhere to its belief.”
@@xINVISIGOTHx you are not alone. I will also include myself in that statement and tend to spend most of my day trying to not be stupid, where most people tend to put no effort in that daily task.
Bill Nye is a guy who thinks there's infinite genders. We're all unbelievably disappointed in him too. It's hard for me to take him seriously on one hand when on the other he's a complete loon.
Just remember that the creator of modern flat earth, Rowbotham, dropped out at the age of 9. This is an example of the level of intelligence of the followers.
It’s scary that they had to make this video in 2020 AND it has dislikes 😒. I cannot say I am surprised with the level of absolute stupidity that is occurring on this ROUND planet
I disliked it because feeding trolls is a great way to see them more often. B.o.B. and other attention seeking flat earthers thank Neil, Nye and clueless folks like yourself.
The rise in the number of flat earthers is not the result of recent discoveries of hidden primitive tribes in the jungle, it is the result of intelligent people who are not satisfied with being spoon fed what is called "settled science", and want to discover the truth for themselves, and are willing to do the work to study the problem for themselves, and this number is continually increasing.
It's a Christianity based theory because they didn't know how do describe the unknown. EDITED HERE because Christians are chomping my rump...ffs. Yes it is a Theory, one that the Flat Earth Cult, has based upon the words of, and the devout followers of Christianity. It preys upon SOME of the followers that are weak-minded enough, to fall for their Cult's theory. It is not CREATED BY Christianity, backed by Christianity. But, Christianity most CERTAINLY is used by the Flat Earth Cult to feed their fire with the words in the Bible. Every Christian that reads this, comes at me, and I have to explain. It doesn't matter where the Flat Earthers are on this planet, because the internet is Global, every country has people with access to the internet, that have become victims of the Cult. The entire Cult most certainly USES the words in the Bible, to fortify their beliefs. The Cult, preys upon the faithful, and lures them in by quoting scripture. They take the Bible as true fact word-for-word, and we all know the Bible is just stuffed to the gills with hyperbole, metaphors, and parables. So let's not aim the daggers of blame and insinuation at me here, you have the facts. Don't make assumptions and attack me, because you don't have enough knowledge on this topic. I've been doing battle with these empty brained flat earthers for over a decade. Get a clue, before you make uneducated replies to me. I am not to blame.
@@bubbagrump Well bubba, doesn't that fact alone show how unintelligent someone is, to believe a 2000 year old book, word for word, when we have 10 people from 4 different nations, up in the International Space Station, TODAY THIS VERY MINUTE? They, believe the words, and have faith. But faith and words alone cannot create physical reality. Ever.
The idea for me is to expose them, not convince. You cannot convince someone who ignores logical arguments they cannot refute. They are people who are too scared, immature and narcissistic to allow reason to guide their beliefs.
everyone is smart in their own fields of expertise, whatever that may be. Flat earther took their globe education and furthered it into critical thinking and applied many questionable and impossible aspects that was never questioned. This is how you become smarter, wiser and if the other person has not furthered their education in this subject that it can't be argued.
@@flatearthmembers2312 And yet not one flat earther can give supported arguments and explanations for their belief. Give us your absolute concrete best point of physics for FE and I'll demonstrate that you guys just run when challenged to open discussion and real thinking, because you KNOW you don't have real knowledge. Watch:
@@flatearthmembers2312 "impossible aspects that was never questioned" It's "were". But you cannot show me a single one. Will it be "Well - It's not worth arguing" or just dead silence as you run as fast as you can? I studied physics for a decade and also covered geometry and did 3D design with computers. "Expertise" enough for you?
@@flatearthmembers2312 Ah. The old flat earther hero narrative. Pleading that you're smart, though you can't seem to win any arguments about flat earth using testable evidence: so the belief must still be true. Thus the novels about yourselves and your amazing skill start appearing.
Because you've been conditioned to believe that anything opposed to what you've been taught in school is terrifying. That's the actual terrifying thing.
@@nicolausthothmes2325 And you've been conditioned to believe absurd conspiracy BS when there is more proof now then there ever has been in history. You should have stayed in school!
@@goodday512 This is not about conspiracy. It is about thinking and asking questions. When you tell someone that he can't ask questions just because it's something that becomes normal in our life, it constitutes a real problem, and it is against freedom of thinking and analysis and against intelligence. Same goes when someone forbid himself or doesn't accept to ask or to respond to those questions. This never leads us to truth, but only to delusion.
I have a friend who believes the earth was flat. I was shocked he did. When talking about it he said "i think its more about not trusting the governement" to which I said "ok, fair, but why believe something so idiotic and easily disproven it distracts from something that does have some merit?"
Yet = the rest of the world says exactly the same thing......... So the _"I don't trust the government - or even NASA for that matter"_ argument represents the worst of facile logic. Even if you completely discount what your own government asserts = other governments - some who may not be friendly to one's own - happen to agree. This when the world rarely agrees upon anything. Your friend of course is not merely wrong = they reflect stereotypical paranoia I'm afraid. Irrational incredulity based upon abstract argumentation so as to justify a nonsensical belief. 🤷
Yeah that’s what a lot of flat earthers are like. They just want to go against the mainstream or government narrative because it makes them feel special. Or they’re just so paranoid and delusional they can’t trust obvious facts because the establishment says they’re true.
I was once in love with a girl who couldn’t understand that earth was smaller than the sun because the sun was just a small disk in the sky. I don’t think anyone fell out of love faster than I did.
Lol my ex-wife thought the sun and the moon were the same thing. Which I'm sure she got from her mom because when she was 57...yep 57, when she noticed the sun and the moon in the sky at the same time and didn't know how it was possible...and that was after her daughter told me what she thought. No lie, I lost 20 IQ points that day.
@@arreola891 Bill Nye is hurting the cause with his arguments.... lol Why can't you see Spain? Thousands of miles away? (Because atmosphere is dense, water condensation, particles in suspenstion.... add all of that for thousands of miles your eyes won't get to there.) . The paper work it takes to send people in space is what prohibit making fake pictures!? dafck is this guy talking about. Flat earth is ridiculous but Bill Nye is giving them ammo by serving insanely easy to rebut arguements.
N. D. Tyson didn't. I n one video, he yelled at them and used a cussword. It's got to be frustrating trying to educate people who are hell-bent on staying willfully stupid.
@@arreola891 What does it matter what type of degree someone has, (iirc he has an engineering degree)? If someone calls themselves the science guy are they claiming they have a BSC or whatever? no they aren't.
@@SpottedSharks true. I think there are a lesser number of really smart people that bring the average higher than it probably really is. If you ever have a job dealing with the general public, in a few years you'll know how dumb a lot of them are. You'll be astonished, actually
“Arguing with a Flat-Earther is like playing chess with a pigeon. Once he knows he’s about to lose, he knocks all the pieces over, shits on the board, and flies off and tells all his friends how he won the game.” ~ Author Unknown
Why even argue about something that doesn't matter in day-to-day life? Believing the Earth is flat has nothing to do with anything for the vast majority of people. If you tell me that person A believes the Earth is flat and person B knows it's round that doesn't tell me anything about which person is a morally better person. And that's what matters.
@@junglemoose2164 I mean yeah you’re right. But I just find it baffling that people can believe that the earth is flat. And tbh I find the fact that flat earthers try spreading misinformation and distrust in science that works so well. I think that’s what annoys me the most, distrust in proven science.
@@junglemoose2164 Because a demonstrable, objective, factual truth matters. The universe operates on such principles. When dangerous fools deny demonstrable, objective, factual truth, everything -- everything -- becomes a matter of opinion and nothing more. Without factually-based concensus everything stops making sense. All is confusion. Confusion is no basis for coherent and stable society.
@@funkuro But Jungle Moose isn't right. That two individuals hold opposing opinions on subjective issues is one thing, denying objective fact is different and deliberately propogating a factual untruth is ethically reprehensible -- so it does say something about moral rectitude.
With these people with no base evidence based on scientific experiments. Sphere has to move, right, ok. Don't even look at another possibility side. Your whole world will go wrong. What damn magnets and how can the moon and the sun move otherwise, right. Also god exists coz the bible proved it
No - Not if the Bible 'told' them it was flat!!! It doesn't of course, but their church leaders convince them it does - or 'should'. Flat earth belief is a deliberate rejection of the Science that they fear is trying to disprove God and they are the true believers who have to fight against everything non-'biblical' to retain the 'Truth' of God and their bible. The world is currently fighting a war, one promoted by and practiced/fought by certain sections of christian cults including many 'evangelicals' who are convinced the world is being controlled by Satan and their duty as christians is to counter what they see as evil by any and all means possible. Trump is playing these people to do his bidding and pretending to be on their side. The cults are happy to be played as they think Trump is 'one of them'. People of science have to fight back and show this quackery for what it truly is.
@@Ken_James_SV yet he has more science degrees than most of us ever will have, just trying to teach science in a fun way to kids is such a lost of credentials
@@Xymage how about try proving me wrong, I know basic biology and everything I've seen is pretty spot on Oh and Einstein was a sellout as well but you don't see anyone invalidating him
Christopher Herron Traditionally, it’s “AD 2020,” not the reverse, so be sure you get right the thing you’re advocating for. Based on historical evidence Jesus wasn’t born in AD 1 but rather sometime between 6 and 4 BC. This discrepancy is due to the fact that the _Anno Domini_ system wasn’t devised until over five centuries after Jesus’ time. Since there was no universal way of reckoning the passage of calendrical time back then, Dionysius Exiguus got his timeline mixed up a bit. We use the CE/BCE system to be gracious to those who do not share our faith.
1:30 You don't even need binoculars. The fact that you can see a defined horizon in the first place is all the evidence you need of curvature. If the earth was flat the water would just carry on until you couldn't see it any longer due to atmospere and pollution. There would be no clearly defined horizon between the water and the sky.
I tell all of my students that there are stupid questions and stupid answers. Asking how something works because you don’t know, because you’ve never been taught is not stupid.
@@rishikagoswami5891 I don’t disagree. Asking for a proof the earth is round when so many examples exist is a stupid question. Asking questions about specific phenomena because you don’t understand them is great. I teach about electricity. Asking how mutual inductance between two coils works is great. Asking why iron man doesn’t get shocked by the arc reactor in his chest, a stupid question. Arguing the earth is flat, dumbest of them all
This is BY FAR the most underrated comment I have ever read in my life and I live on RUclips. So much in fact I felt I had no choice but to show my wife. Well done indeed lol.
Looks like you got a reply from one... Cesar, here's a formula to prove we do live on a globe: n = r/9x67y (f) This comes from my friend who's never wrong, so it must be true! 🤦♂️ Edit: For anyone who can't see this comment for what it is, obviously I made up the "formula". Or, just maybe, I accidentally proved the earth is in fact a globe! 🤯 Nope, it's just gibberish...
@César Omar Raudales None of your crap has the slightest impact on the problem. If your flat Earth exists, show it to us. Where's your evidence for your Big Ice Wall and your "dome", for starters? And when you fail to provide any, how about you explain where the shadow on the moon comes from during a lunar eclipse? Bit inconvenient for you that your flat Earth Sun and Moon are both close to Earth and never disappear over a horizon, wouldn't you say? No, of course you wouldn't - evidence and logic escape you morons entirely.
They could let monkeys and 4 year olds vote and it would not make a difference. All the choices presented to us to vote on are bought, paid for, and not in the public's best interest.
I can't express this enough. I can't understand how this is even remotely possible than ADULTS believe the Earth is flat. "Forces from the dark side" is literally how that feels 😂
@@jadewolf6411 You know, after seeing all the facts and doing the experiments myself including some amazing tecnical engineering calculations regarding train tracks and bridges And debunking the entire globe mathematics that insists that the earths radius is calculated at 8 inches squared per mile times the height in feet of the observer height was in fact easy... I find it astonishing that people just believe what they are told in school blindly without question in an attempt by the Rockerfella foundation that paid for all our books and atlases in every single classroom with a label under them stating that it is not for educational purposes That you would question your fellow God loving and Fearing Brothers and sisters that have come back to our Lord and Saviour because of this revelation of truth setting us all free Wr cannot have it both ways We can only serve 1 creator Big Bang BS that is also Darwinism where everything magically created itself from nothing Or that we are all one, by intelligent design and given life by our creator as per Genesis Do yourself a favour... Realise that Flat earth is pictured in Bibles, Ancient works and civilisations that were far more advanced than we are now and give them credit for not being as stupid as we are not to know where we live, who we are or how we got here... Because that my friend is the most niave a man or woman could ever be... We do not live on a smarties tube? Where all we can see on a coast line from left to right is a dead flat and level horizontal horizon level where we allegedly go over this tube they say is some kind of sphere... When you get a high powered camera, or telescope we can just zoom back in again when there is supposed to be 100's and even 1000's of feet in some observations that is missing of alledged curvature between you and the object or ship you are looking at the hull of again... Deep down, I do not believe you are stupid or dumb and are quite capable of proving that their globe is a flat out lie yourself like I did... You will be angry of course, nobody likes being lied to their entire lives, but your anger will be where it deserve to be, at those that lied to you, and like me, they will never ever be able to lie and get away with it again... Good luck, and remember, the easiest experiment to do and disprove the globe is by defeating the globe models earth curvature. But you know in your heart, we do not move, water at rest always lays level, the stars rotate us and never deform after 1000's of years of allegedly going lunatic speeds in their imaginary universe and God is watching from above on his throne upon a sapphire stone 👍🏻🍻 Keeping our departed loved ones close to his side ✝️
@@cosmiccomet5257 Funny that rather a lot of Muslims believe otherwise which means you don't know very much outside your own little uninformed and bigoted bubble. You are no different from Christians who claim the bible doesn't. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it isn't true it just means you don't like it.
In round numbers, the Equator is 24,000 miles (40,000 km) long and 6000 miles (10,000 km) from the North Pole. These figures have been measured pretty accurately by navigators for over two hundred years. You can't fit them both on a flat map. This alone shows that the Earth cannot be flat.
The mapping thing works, basically, as long as you stay in the northern hemisphere. It was found out by early attempts at circumnavigation that the actual miles are way off if you use the spherical model, in the extreme southern ocean.
@heavenaboveearthbelow6237 So are you claiming that the North Pole is not 6000 miles from the Equator, and/or that the Equator is not 24,000 miles in circumference? Can you name a navigator who disagrees with these figures? And whose extreme southern circumnavigation distance are you using? If it's that of James Cook (whom most flat Earthers cite), please look up the exact route he took.
@@therealzilch There is other examples one can look at, more recent ones, such as people who were participants on a sailboat race around the world, where the speeds of the boats are too slow for the capacity of the boats, and also that the winds were actually with them, when they were close to the southern extreme of their trip. I am not impressed with people who make claims about the south, who have never actually been south of the equator themselves. I crossed the equator myself in a ship, years ago, in the Indian Ocean off of Africa. It was very flat, as I remember it and could easily see the ships that were in our group who were so many miles away that they should have been far over the horizon, if the Earth was actually a globe. Anyway, go to the south like Tasmania or something and make a video of the Southern Cross and upload it to RUclips, and I might be impressed. I remember a video I saw years ago and now cannot find, of someone trying to make a star trail from southern Australia, and he had such a thing as a result, and he also documented his recording the sky with a telescope, that he used to make a star trail from. Interestingly, in the story line of the documentary, as the Sun was coming up, it was exactly where he was supposedly pointing his telescope to look at the southern version of Polaris.
@@heavenaboveearthbelow6237 I've berm south of the Equator, in Tanzania. From there, Polaris was just below the horizon. How is this possible, if the Earth is flat?
@@therealzilch The same way that the Sun goes beyond our horizon. Just that it is not moving away, but stands still. It just becomes to far away to see. How this can even be a thing is by considering the distance from us the star really is. It would have to be very close to us to start with to make any difference to us if we are on one part of the earth or another. Now, to to discount the idea that these were actually discrete points in some vast space, individual suns in a galaxy or even more far away, the best way is to point out that our hypothetical orbit around the Sun does not show parallax that we would expect.
Actually FEarther know both models, it is the Globe believers who do not know even their own globe model.... And there in lies the stupidity, Globers depend on Nasa for explinations- which are Lies
@@dallasquinley8493 flatearther much? Thise aren't lies, how many rockets have u seen gone to space? Millions, what they say us true, its not that hard to understand that what nasa says is true, tell me something nasa said that was a lie and i will help ur brain understand, like how big stars are, are those lies? No, why is the moon round? Why is the sun round? Why is everything round in space? Bc of gravity, planets moons stars, they are all round bc of gravity, how is nasa lying?
@@dallasquinley8493 globe believers which are not beliefs, they are people who actually know the earth is round, not some idiots who think only the sun is tiny and above earth
@@dallasquinley8493 we dont depend on nasa nasa itself is just globe "believers" who have been to space and seen the earth from outer space, u think those are lies bc u dont understand basic science, go study kid if ur gonna be stupid enough to say gravity has no power on earth then ur hopeless, why cant we float in earth? Gravity, why is the moon qnd all the planets in our solar system and different solar systems round? Why is the sun round? Why is the earthround? Gravity, otherwise we would'nt even be able to live, the earth would'nt even exist ur brainless
I like flat earther for two reason. 1.I am relieved that there are people who are more stupid than me. 2.Because of them , we can watch scientists teaching us some science and stuffs about earth .
Funny enough we are probably all significantly smarter than you and we literally empirically falsified the claimed radius of the globe earth. Catch up.
@@Witsit Flat Earthers are so stupid they cannot even tell that the company they keep are stupid! Not a single flat Earther knows how any of our technology works nor builds or maintains it. But you are a stone-age flatty, so even that wont give you a clue.
I received this comment from one of them "It’s time for people to understand that government USA bunch of lying devils. Trust God and Trump in that order. God is using President Trump to expose the truth about these lying devils like God used Noah, Moses and Abraham."
@woosh if gay What concerns me are what I term "passing tourists", i.e. those that are unsure etc., and if you believe Trump at al are not a problem then you have problems and are stupid. Trump et al are bad for the USA and sorting out things like AGW &ACC. Perhaps this a good moment to reflect on the timeline of Trump’s statements: 20 January: "We have it under control”. 26 February: "It’s going to disappear”. 10 March: "It will go away”. 29 April: "It’s gonna be gone”. 11 May: "We have prevailed”. 17 June: "It’s fading away”. 19 July: "I’ll be right eventually”.
@Stephine Smith this video is completely fucked when it comes to actual science. Theyre using theories not science. Learn the difference idiot. Only globe proofs are cgi and fisheye lens photos. Sounds like theres some flaws. And as dumb bitch says earth casts the shadow on the moon... How bout when the moon is half full, earth is only flat that day? You globe tards dont even think, you let the government do it for ya.
@@Hammer_Of_Olympia gravity: it is an illusion The horizon on coasts: it is a myth Other plants are a sphere: earth is flat They reject evidence and proof with just "I don't buy it, it is a lie/myth"
why bother ? if flat earthers would be receptive to scientific reasoning, they wouldn't be flat earthers in the first place. Any energy spent on this debate is energy lost to real topics.
@@vaolin1703 I am with you on that. I've came across a few that aren't, but yea, for the most part it's exactly what a troll would do: pick a really dumb topic, pretend you believe it, have fun wasting people's time and pissing them off. :)
Most of them are so hopelessly antisocial that they never learned to drive or talk to people. Why we continuously listen to their drivel would be laughable if it weren't such an existential crisis for our species.
Send Them Off The SpaceShip!!!!!! Then They Will See That The Earth Is Round And They Will See That There Is An AfterLife. You Will Prove 2 Things With One Action.
You cannot argue with flat-earthers they are right! You also can't argue with round earthers because they are right as well! The 2nd dimension exists within the 3rd. Therefore it is both. Talking about this subject keeps people from seeing what is truly important!
@@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler Actually, your statement is quite erroneous, simply because there is terrain with altitude, and depth below the sea level. A two-dimensional Earth would be like a map, and nothing more. In other words, even a hypothetical (nonexistent) flat Earth would exist in 3 dimensions.
@@PanAfricanist1963Yeah the problem is stupid people don’t listen to what they’re being taught. You can’t teach someone who has no interest in learning.
Michelle is on the verge of pulling her hair out, Neil is planning his black hole trip, and Bill is seriously questioning how an entire generation that watched his shows can think the earth is flat.
Bill's Expression after being asked is hilarious... he's like "come on, someone shoot me know and save me from this eternal stupidity." Neil's expression is like here we go again... and Michelle is starting to realize people are really THAT stupid.
@Ludus Aurea To make up the average of the intelligence of the entire human race, someone has to be the minimum. Flerfs are that minimum. Also for people like you and me who aren't completely insane photo evidence is pretty good evidence. Not so for flerfs. That's how conspiracy theories survive. Any information proving the theory, no matter the source, is true and gospel. Anything disproving the theory is made up by a cabal of Satanists/government/foreigners/something.
🎯 There was a doco some years ago about Flerfs. To one with a discerning eye it was easily recognizable that while some Flerfs were clearly highly educated = all manifested dysfunctional personalities. These were individuals who _"did not fit in"_ as the saying goes and who often represented people incapable of normally participating in society. As such believing in ""Flat Earth" allowed them a _"sense of community"_ by facilitating their hooking up with like-minded - yet still dysfunctional - individuals. It's actually kinda sad really. 🤷
@@warmachineuk The modern one apparently involves magic beams of light which don't behave as any other light source do. Not exactly Occam's razor there.. Anyway, that was the answer when I once asked why when talking with family over Skype, half the world away, that it was dark where they were, late night as it were, and bright daylight here (mid day).
@@tohaason the current model of nonsense concludes that the sun hangs on a string and paints the light across the earth. Don't forget these people also think there is a wall of ice holding in the oceans. These people also call themselves environmentalists... Think about that.
Or perhaps atmodisk. Unless it's another of their premises that the Earth is not only flat, it's also infinitely thin. In which case it should be atmocircle. But that would put them on shaky ground. Ground that is really thin....
answer me this, How is it possible to see a ship, the entire ship, out at sea over 200 miles out? shouldnt that be going around the globe? Nikon P900 Cameras have many videos of this. Explain that to me. If you could also explain how we have video at over 120,000 ft of altitude with no visible curve. I would assume at some point we would see it. Im not saying its flat but what I am saying is we've been lied too. With those 2 examples theres only 2 logical conclusions.. Either the Earth really is flat(its not ) OR weve been lied to and its much MUCH larger than what they tell us that its 25,000 miles in circumference. Why would that be? Interesting to say the least
@@mysticricorok8481 yeah you're right. All countries, astronomers, astronauts, space agencies, test pilots, amateur rocket enthusiasts etc. are all in on a huge scheme to deceive the human race that the earth is a globe. Even though all astronomy confirms that the surrounding planets and moons are all globes, but yeah, the earth is a flat disc. Hell, even eclipses prove that planets, just like ours, are globes. Some people need to have their heads examined. Go ahead and keep believing a fiction.
@@UTarcher72 you obviously didnt read a word of what I said. Might wana start doing that before making yourself look dumb bud.. Kinda embarrassed for ya
Its how your vision works. Watch something disappear over the horizon, then view them again through a high powered zoom lens and poof, the object reappears like magic before seeming to again dip behind the horizon as it moves out of range of the zoom lens.
@@jacksonfurlong3757 no actually, you will still not see the bottom of the boat. The bottom doesn't "reappear" once it's gone over the horizon, because of curvature.
Not just this topic but racism and other major things as well thats keeping us back form ever advancing into the future like war, corruption and poverty that just focusing on money and resources to spend and waste lives on and instead of like technology or a more healthier environment and to live longer and better, and if we did have planetary civilization and with all of this happening we could cause even a greater threat nit just another world war but more like interglacial Wars and fighting for freedom with other different species out there because of our own choices we make
That clown can't stick to one position. In this video he says those are fighting words and writes to a rapper. But when tasked against one of the flat earth leaders, he backs out and says he's not debating anymore. Lol
@@Chronz because ignorance on that magnitude will never be breached, even when faced with overwhelming amounts of evidence provided by people who have done the work.
Exactly. By arguing with these people, you are implying that there is something to debate. There isn't. You wouldn't debate whether the number 6 is bigger than the number 5, or that Lebron James is taller than Danny Devito, so why debate the shape of the earth?
I think the scientific community is taking the wrong approach with flat earth debunking. It shouldn't be a study in math or physics, it should be a study in psychology. It's not hard to prove the earth is round - the hard part is understanding the way people think that would make them believe otherwise.
@Hey Girl I Like Your Kitchen Romania Exact same thing is happening with climate change. If someone says climate change isn’t real, you cannot convince them otherwise with words, data, and research alone.
@Hey Girl I Like Your Kitchen Romania Thats absolute bullshit because the “99%” proposition came after Exxon and other oil companies paid millions of dollars in a wide “most scientists disagree on climate change” misinformation campaign. “The American Meteorological Society (AMS) issued this position statement: "Scientific evidence indicates that the leading cause of climate change in the most recent half century is the anthropogenic increase in the concentration of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, tropospheric ozone, and nitrous oxide." (Adopted April 15, 2019) The American Geophysical Union (AGU) issued this position statement: "Human-induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate observed over the last 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." (Reaffirmed in November 2019) The American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) What We Know site states: "Based on the evidence, about 97 percent of climate scientists agree that human-caused climate change is happening.”” “These scientific organizations have not issued statements in a void; they echo the findings of individual papers published in refereed scientific journals. The Institute for Scientific Information (ISI) maintains a database of over 8,500 peer-reviewed science journals, and multiple studies of this database show evidence of overwhelming agreement among climate scientists. In 2004, science historian Naomi Oreskes published the results of her examination of the ISI database in the journal Science. She reviewed 928 abstracts published between 1993 and 2003 related to human activities warming the Earth's surface, and stated, "Remarkably, none of the papers disagreed with the consensus position." This finding hasn't changed with time. In 2016, a review paper summarized the results of several independent studies on peer-reviewed research related to climate. The authors found results consistent with a 97-percent consensus that human activity is causing climate change. Probably the most definitive assessments of global climate science come from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Founded by the United Nations in 1988, the IPCC releases periodic reports, and each major release includes three volumes: one on the science, one on impacts, and one on mitigation. Each volume is authored by a separate team of experts, who reviews, evaluates, and summarizes relevant research published since the prior report. Each IPCC report undergoes several iterations of expert and government review. The 2007 IPCC report, for instance, received some 90,000 comments, and each comment received an individual response.”
You can tell which one of these guys has actually dealt with flat earth morons. Michelle is all bubbly and enthusiastic, Bill Nye can barely hold back his eye-roll 😂😂
Just as Neil said, there's no point debating something that's objectively true. Save yourself some energy and let people like flat earthers talk to a wall or something while you do something productive with your life.
It is not objectively true though, do your own due diligence and research it. Those boats dissappearing over the horizon is from perspective and you can zoom in and they will reappear. Water always finds its own level, its not curved.
@@Dreadz42 you can go to a really high mountain point, yes you will see the boat again but guess what, eventually that boat will travel over the horizon and it will be out of your vision once again.
@@Hex_Glitches Hes saying you dont have to move to a higher elevation, you just need a high powered camera and when you zoom in it brings the entire ship back into view again. It is a perspective thing, the ship is not actually going over a physical curvature.
@@Hex_Glitches ofcourse brother, those boats will eventually disappear mostly due to perspective, angular resolution, atmospheric factors, refraction and other optical phenomena. It will happend starting at the bottom of the boat usually over water( but not only similar phenomena happens when we drive in the summer on the highway we can see the mirroring effects of refraction...) It is not due to geometrical horizon.
Do you actually believe carbon dioxide, at 0.04% of the atmosphere (near enough to zero really, dangerously) necessary for photosynthesis, is actually causing global warming? These idiots talk about it but know it isn't true. I have an IQ of 130...The climate is a chaotic system, therefore unpredictable...from High school math...so when they talk about predicting the climate with climate models, know they are BS'ing you! I never fell for that lie but I did the spherical earth. Look at an 'air map', its where flight paths come from, it is the Gleeson flat earth map, which just happens to be on the UN flag...which pushes climate BS too. Hiding the truth in plain sight (in a gun sight of all things, look at the flag!). Symbolism and BS'ing the sheep is their favourite pastimes it looks.
I didn't get any new information from this video, It's the same old geographic studies, some legislative lectures, and personal views of a debate that might be true.
@@Chronz No we didn't. Erastothenese of ancient Grece calculated the circumference of the Earth using an obelisk in Alexandria and a well in Syrene. It's not ok to be more ignorant than people 2000 years ago.
@@majacovic5141 yes we did. Ur ignorant to history if you think 1 person makes up collective consciousness. There's alot about the ancients we don't understand
@@Chronz If humanity again believes the earth is flat, you can say goodbye to technology that relies on satellites, and those cargo ships that get you all those goods from overseas
People have known the world World was round for hundreds or thousands of years based on recent discouveries - It's only our modern civilization or European civilization that was not aware of this until recently
My daughter, 5 years old at the time, was astonished when I told her that there are people that think the earth is flat. I still remember her response, “you look out and you see the sun is a sphere, the moon is a sphere, of course the earth must also be a sphere.” I’ve never thought of it that way.
Actually, the sun and the moon don't appear to be spheres for sure, but they do appear to be round, for sure. Of course, 3D spheres always appear to be perfectly round when viewed from any angle, but so are 2D disks when viewed exactly face (not edge) on. Don't get me wrong, I certainly do believe the sun, the earth and the moon are spheres. But an argument that a Flat Earther could make (all other evidence aside) is that the moon could be a disk that is tidally locked to the earth - so that it always shows its perfectly round flat face when we look at it from earth.
this is why the earth is a globe: Horizon and Ship Observation: When a ship sails away from shore, it gradually disappears from the bottom up. This happens because the Earth’s surface curves, and as the ship moves farther away, the lower parts of it are obscured first. Shadow on the Moon: During a lunar eclipse, the Earth casts a shadow on the Moon, and this shadow is always round. Only a spherical object can cast a round shadow from any angle. Time Zones: The Earth experiences different times of day (day and night) simultaneously in different places because of its curvature. A flat Earth wouldn’t have this effect; everyone would see the sun rise and set at the same time. Gravity: Gravity pulls objects toward the center of mass. On a spherical Earth, gravity is more or less equal in all directions, keeping everything pulled toward the core. On a flat Earth, gravity would behave very differently, and things would likely not fall straight down. Airplane Flight Paths: Long-distance airplane routes often follow curved paths when plotted on a flat map. This is because the Earth is a globe, and the shortest distance between two points on a globe is not a straight line on a flat map, but a curve. These evidences, along with centuries of scientific research, confirm that the Earth is a globe. ---and this what flat-shitiest can't proof: The best evidence disproving the flat Earth theory comes from various scientific observations that would be impossible if the Earth were flat. Here are some key points: 1. The Earth's Curved Shadow During Lunar Eclipses During a lunar eclipse, the Earth casts a shadow on the Moon. This shadow is always curved, regardless of where the eclipse is viewed from on Earth. A flat object cannot cast a consistently curved shadow from every angle. This directly disproves the flat Earth model. 2. The Disappearance of Ships Over the Horizon On a flat Earth, ships would always remain fully visible as they sail away. However, when watching a ship from shore, it disappears bottom-first, with the mast being the last to go out of sight. This is due to the curvature of the Earth, as the ship moves further along the curved surface. 3. Photographs from Space Numerous photos and videos taken by satellites, astronauts, and even high-altitude balloons show the Earth as a globe. These images are consistent, showing the Earth’s spherical shape from all angles. Claims that these images are faked require an implausible conspiracy among all the world’s space agencies. 4. Flight Paths Long-haul international flights often follow curved routes when plotted on a flat map. This is because the shortest distance between two points on a sphere (the Earth) is a great circle route. If the Earth were flat, these routes would not make sense, and airlines would not fly them. 5. Gravity On a spherical Earth, gravity pulls everything toward the center, creating a relatively uniform experience of "down" everywhere. On a flat Earth, gravity would pull at an angle as you moved toward the edges, making life impossible. The way gravity behaves is direct evidence of the Earth's spherical shape. 6. Time Zones On a flat Earth, the Sun would rise and set at the same time for everyone. But we observe different time zones across the globe, where people experience day and night at different times. This variation occurs because the Earth is a rotating sphere, allowing for day on one side while it’s night on the other. 7. The Visible Curvature from High Altitudes From high-altitude locations, like mountaintops or planes flying at cruising altitude, you can see the curvature of the Earth. Additionally, high-altitude balloon experiments conducted by amateurs and professionals alike show clear video footage of the Earth’s curvature. ---you guys have to use this comment every where : copie it pls every where this shit debat start!
I know a flat earther. I told him there wasnt a lot of people that think the earth is flat, but their numbers are growing daily. Now they can be found all over the globe. He was like,"That's because people are catching on to the truth." He strutted off, totally missing the joke.😂
@@ALofiLife the earth is spherically shaped. It is not a disk. It is very large. It is so massive that it has its own gravitational pull. Gravity is not a theory. It is a force that pulls everything towards its center. That is why dropped objects, like car keys and microphones for example, fall 'down'. Children get this, but grown adults are having trouble with this concept. So much so, that they are denying everything that they have been taught and would rather believe a crackpot idea spouted by a tattoo artist instead of every scientist who ever lived. No wonder Bill Nye looks disappointed. He spent a good portion of his life educating the future. This is what the future has produced; willful stupidity .
He's like Professor Dave, who has absolutely ZERO chill, when calling out those morons. If you havn't seen his videos debunking flat earth (globebusters) you will learn about the dunning krueger effect, and every time they say something stupid, you will see this graph and this little tune pop up, because of his videos lmao.
That breaks the rule of free speech. As of now you guys are just talking shit and stuff like that is how dumbasses get killed in real life. In the real world it is illegal to go to someone and call them idiot or stupid or moron. Those that break this law gets killed and the killer won't get any jail time for it because harassment is illegal. Just saying. When on the internet, number one rule. Watch what you say. Rule two don't claim anything or someone will force you to prove it or get DoXed or DDoS. Rule number three, have fun. As long as you don't break these rules, you should be safe online. I hope you guys learned something today. Btw, why no one talking about Hollow Earth? We have more than just Flat Earth Globe Earth and Disk Earth. Come on people get with the times. This is 2022 going on 2023. Not 1770...
@@Solesteam Still breaks the rule of free speech since you can't use these words if you going to talk about free speech. There are reasons why people get shot in real life for saying stuff that is known as illegal in the area. And they shouldn't spit at all. It is illegal to spit unless you spitting rhymes.
The crazy part is that these flatearthers still used cell phones, GPS and other devices but they don't believe the Earth is round...These people pick and choose the reality they want to believe
The GPS is of course part of the conspiracy. They know the erath is flat and GPS is using singals from earth and somehow the whole model that is presented of us is a globe, but the program knows it´s flat. It´s mathamatics, of course. Because believing the earth is round gives government a power over us... I don´t know how or what power but it does... FE guys say that and they are right everytime. Cause if there´s soe argument against FE, then it´s fraud, conspiracy or outright lie.
Well, it can be viewed from another perspective. It's like the "half full or half empty glass". My point is that I can counteract that statement by just saying: "but the second half is smarter!!". Apart from that, "above average" doesn't mean "not stupid", tho. I still think the majority of the human species is just stupid af...
It scares me that there are adults, functioning members of society, people who have jobs and families, who can vote, who can drink, who can drive a car, yet can't believe physics
Why......... - just saying. Think about what is behind the belief in "Flat Earth" = "religion". So it frankly does not matter "what" the concept is being applied to. For people to believe in a theistic worldview already presupposes acceptance of "magical thinking" - in that case applied to "divine beings" and supposed miracles. Ergo why would it therefore come as a surprise that the same assumptive beliefs are simply taken a step further to discount the entirety of our reality vis a vis the nature of our planet to cling to a "literalist" view of the world based upon ancient beliefs. If you base your worldview on claims dating to millennia ago when people would be by today's standards marginally literate then finding people who today claim the Earth is flat is simply = "more of the same". There reality begin and ends with their imaginations driven by their desire to believe what they believe. Facts and logic therefore do not apply. 🤨
It's easy. To prove it's not a spinning ball. However most spinning ballers don't actually look at what flat eartgers believe. They allow others to tell them and expect a fair answer. It's like asking a Muslim what Christians are and expecting a fair respectful answer The spinning ball earth has a supposed curvature rate of 0.666 ft. Per mile SQUARED. Or 8 inches per mile SQUARED. So for every mile you fly straight over the supposed sphere earth 25,000 miles in circumference, the earth must curve away from you 8 inches. So the second mile 64 inches, etc. If you were to start flying dead straight one inch off the ground over a ball earth 25,000 miles in circumference, after 1000 miles of dead straight flying, the earth would curve 127 miles under you never lifting the nose once! 127 miles over the earth is ORBIT!! If orbit was even reality. Again orbit is only seen on tv. Spinning ball earth is only seen on tv never in real life. You guys never once looked at how stupid spinning ball earth claims are. Your flying straight over a ball!! You fly straight over a ball, eventually you fly into "space". But you don't end up in space. You end up flying over a flat horizon. Or ancestors are smarter than we are. We accept tv over reality.
@@always_trust_all_scientists Apart from direction, planes adjust their flight path based on altitude. So when they start to deviate, they will adjust their flight path. The earth is sooo big, it looks as if it's flat. Since you seem to be very good at math & physics, I have a question. Can you please explain how come we can't see Big Ben from the top of the Empire State Building even if we use the most advanced lenses known to man kind?
and was led by Teacher (or Mullah, Shaaman, whatever) to the spinning blue ball on a stand, where you were T-O-L-D "This is where we live"...and thus began your INDOCTRINATION...AT AGE 5. You've NEVER questioned ANYTHING after that-DID you? LOL!
Flat Earther: Hey did you know 1+1=3 Normal Individual: You are wrong 1+1=2 Flat Earther: NO! 1+1 = 3 because the government controlled schools we learnt this from lied to us and everything they teach us is a lie! Normal Individual: I will prove to you 1+1=2, here's one orange, here's another one, you put them together you have 2 Flat Earther: NO! That's an ilusion! Normal Individual: Ok show me then, prove to me 1+1=3 Flat Earther: Math is a concept dreamt up by those who want to control us! Normal Individual: Ok show me 1+1=3 Flat Earther: You don't understand, you have no idea what you are talking about! Normal Individual: Show me 1+1=3 Flat Earther: There is no point! you want to be controlled, you want to live a lie! I'm done here!
The sad part is that most flat earthers are so caught up in this conspiracy, and so deep into this bet, that they won’t back down, even when they make experiments and debunk themselves, as seen on “behind the curve”. Basically a lot of them won’t give up on this even if they go up in space and look at this beautiful round planet. They’d say “nah, it’s fake” Sad.
It's not about evidences anymore, it's about feelings, emotions. Conspiracionists want to feel special. They want so bad to feel special that being an anti-vaxxer and help spreading false information that will cause death and pain is worth it. It's the type of people who doesn't deserve any autonomy or right to decide anything.
@@zakazany1945 you jumped to another topic. Are you saying doctors like the one who helped invent the mrna tech you seem to think is settled science, are actually trying to kill people for not taking the jab and speaking out against mandates?
I love how the intonation in each of their voices is that of someone that was explaining something to a kindergartener, but even a kindergartener can understand basic facts.
When you borrow from foreign languages, be careful. A "Kindergärtner" is NOT someone who attends a Kindergarten (aka a young child) but is what the profession is called that oversees the little ones. So if the US has created Kindergardener to mean the young ones ... oh well, we also have alternate facts and suchlike, why not add some more confusion ... ;)
This English word was borrowed from German in the early 19th C, having now had about 200 years of use in English. Hence it's not been 'borrowed' as you imply. Furthermore, while kindergartener can refer to the teacher it's extremely rare. It's common usage is the child that attends kindergarten.
These vids are for “ globers”. They are speaking to you. They arent going to change flat earthers minds. They know that. The purpose of these types of vids are do keep you under wraps. Another glober decieved.
@@vincec727 I just don't get what is to be gained by deceiving the public on something so trivial, what in gods name would the motive be for such a massive conspiracy?
isnt it a good thing to explain to each generation why we believe what we believe . i mean , most people have never been in outer space and looked at the earth from there to confirm its shape , we just believe what we are told , so the least they could do is explain in detail why we believe earth is a ball .
@@marleonetti7 absolutely! But that is all explained to kids in grade school. Flat earthers have heard most or all of the proofs for the shape of our planet and they still reject them, usually based on religious beliefs.
@@Plant_Parenthood most flat earthers are actually not religious at all and they seem to all come from various backrounds , ages , and races . and 99 percent of religious people in the western world believe that the earth is a globe .
Yet believing all the matter in the universe came from nothing and the unfathomably complex code within the human genome wrote itself, even though the only actions available are copy and delete, is perfectly alright with you because cronies like these 3 tell you so, did you learn nothing from C19?
@@marleonetti7 every flat earthers I have talked to, if you question them long enough, come back to descriptions of "God's firmament" and the idea that our planet is flat when others are spherical because of something to do with god.
That's just three and one of them is really a science presenter rather than an actual scientist. Explanation of the shape of the Earth is done by a few handfuls of RUclipsrs.
No, they will say yousr research is biased by your "Globe beliefes", and you have first forget and reject all you have learned before. And then do your research with this zero knowledge and your own invented science.
Imagine devoting your life to the study of science in hopes of expanding the boundaries of our knowledge, to have to argue with ancient, outdated ideas like flat Earth.
And imagine spending billions of dollars/pounds/euros putting satellites in orbit... wait? Orbit - what's one of them? Anyway... so that people could have internet/gps/international travel,news... Billions! And to think the ISS is still up there floating on imaginary turtles... "No, I have a valid opinion". No you effing don't have a valid opinion. You have ill uneducated opinion. Grow up.
I live on 18th floor in Northern Europe. My favourite thing to do is use my telescope to enjoy the view of the Pyramids of Giza from my balcony. Luckily there is no major cities with high rising buildings in the way :)
To quote Albert Einstein when to comes to how dumb people can be: “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
You cannot argue with flat-earthers they are right! You also can't argue with round earthers because they are right as well! The 2nd dimension exists within the 3rd. Therefore it is both. Talking about this subject keeps people from seeing what is truly important!
After soaking up media on this topic for a day, I have come to the conclusion that flat earthers are a religious cult, some people are getting rich from this.
@@toxicboi3768 if you can convince someone to reject advice and common sense from friends, family, and reputable sources, than you have successfully brainwashed them.
@@williamgandarillas2185 It always boggles my mind how people buy into the idea that everyone, absolutely everyone, is lying to them on something that will 100% not affect them. Like most conspiracy theories are insane already, but whether the Earth is flat or round will literally not change their life whatsoever.
Bold of them to assume that flat earthers even understand how physics work, let alone any buzzwords and sayings related to scientific discoviers and phenomena.
@@ElusiveTruth Poincarè died in 1912 , he didn't see space travel, satellite, the hubble telescope or the hundreds of others devices we have to explore the solar system. The lesson we learned from Copernicus, Kepler and Galileo is here very relevant. They persuaded us, against what seemed to be overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that the Earth moves. They taught us to see motion where none appears. The notion of time capsules may help us to reverse that process-to see perfect stillness as the reality behind the turbulence we experience.” ― Julian Barbour, The End of Time: The Next Revolution in Our Understanding of the Universe Barbour was quite the philosopher, but he did believe the heliocentric model. Coleman and Otis quotes are very similar, and are talking about the failure of the Mitcheson- Morley experiment to detect the 'eather', it did not prove the earth was stationary. Barnett died in 1978, he didn't see the technical advances of the las 40 years. Foucault's pendulum shows the earth is rotating. The observation of the stars and planets shows we are moving around the sun.
@@ElusiveTruth "I have come to believe that the motion of the Earth cannot be detected by any optical experiment."- Physicist, Albert Einstein Okay, now quote the words that come right after that. The words that come after that fake full stop that you added.
Here's one nobody ever says: Take your flat earth friend out into the snow. You make a snowball and they make a snow plate. Then you both throw your creations at full speed into the other's face. Do this as many times as is necessary.
Problem is that flat earther don't think space is real or that the earth is moving at all. This wouldn't work for them because they do not think that the earth is a disc flying through space
The reason nobody evers says this may be that it does not work out - even if they accept that space exists. A disc would be fine, just as any other shape, because there is no air resistance.
When i encounter a flat earther, I realize immediately that they'd be unable to understand basic science and rather than stoop to their level. I just tell them they are wrong and move on. No debate.
That is probably best as far as one can not reason with irrationality. One therefore exposes it for what it is for others to recognize and learn from. Leave the debunking in detail to those versed in the science as videos like this do - unless you are versed enough to also expose via a cogent argument why the Flerfs are wrong. Just as noted do not expect them to have a _"road to Damascus"_ moment as to ascribe to "Flat Earth" is to be deeeeep down the rabbit hole of evangelical fundamentalism. We as it happen have a term for such = _"cults."_ Enjoy your day.
They do this because they can't give us a real time video of the upside down people, buildings and cars. It doesn't exist. So, they pay pretend scientist to do this crap instead.
Why would people with truth on there side feel the need to insult and ridicule people. If they are right then why can't they prove it? Nothing said in this video proves the Earth is round. All it shows is the scientific community is scared of this topic.
Humble? They literally talked about this subject like they have personally went into space and seen the round earth for themselves. Because that is the only way to prove this. Math can prove the earth is flat just like it can prove it's round. All you have to do is change peramiters also gravity is not needed on a flat earth model. All you need is density and boyancy.
Let me share a bit of information. I recently joined a flat earth group just to waste a bit of time at work. And oh man... I had no idea what I was getting myself into, so let me share a bit of extra things that I've personally noticed. 1. They don't understand equivocation fallacies AT ALL. Science is a religion (heard that before from creationist, no surprise) but their belief system strangely is not. I even had one guy say that "globe heads" believe in Scientology... despite the fact that Scientology and science are 2 completely different things. Even when I presented clear evidence of this, they didn't care. 2. They generally won't answer direct questions. Don't expect too much math. (unless the numbers = 666... after they adjust the numbers a bit dishonestly) If they do respond to questions, more than likely their answers will not actually address your question. For example, I asked one of them how do you tell the difference between a naturally occurring pattern in nature and intentional manipulation? They showed me a picture of the planet Pluto where they drew Pluto (Disney's dog) on the planet where they saw a pattern. They couldn't tell me other than "its common sense" as to why they would put Pluto on a dog, but when I said I see the Bat symbol in the clouds suddenly that's nature with no explanation, so they enjoy special pleading. 3. Just want to reinforce that any images you show them contrary to their belief system is fake, CGI, or photoshop, usually with no explanation given. Any picture that does fit their world view is real, because reasons. I even caught them in lies where they had images that THEY PHOTOSHOPPED CLEARLY and still they didn't even admit any wrong doing. We have google image search now, you can't just do that and get away with it. 4. The more credentials you have, the LESS trustworthy of a source you are. Pretty much, if you're some unemployed loser trying to stick it to the man with your tin foil hat equipped and a youtube account, you're automatically the authority on every aspect of science, above those who go to Satanic Freemason universities like everyone in an actual science field has. 5. Because the Vatican supports the big bang and evolution, those beliefs belong to the Vatican... because reasons. 6. They are LOADED with retarded memes of misinformation, logical fallacies, and just plainly false nonsense, and even if you refute it, they'll report that same meme 10 seconds later in another spot. 7. Bill Nye and Neil deGrass Tyson are evil. 8. No single explanation is ever provided as to why all the world's governments need to lie about the shape of the earth to accomplish anything. 9. If there is anything wrong with their models of reality, they will not address it no matter how many times you point it out. They'll only attack actual science, despite clearly not knowing or understanding any of it. 10. Even though they do not trust NASA, if someone claims to be from NASA, makes a video supporting flat earth or other conspiracies, that person suddenly has credibility despite being from an organization that has no credibility... like what? 11. No surprise but they don't understand basic logic. 12. I'd say about 90% or more are religious, but for some reason they only believe in the old testament generally. Now, despite they've never seen or tested anything in the bible, they believe it 100% based purely on faith alone. 13. There are no actual established models of the flat earth. They all claim something a little different despite none of them having any test to prove that. For example, some believe in an infinite plane, while other believe in a floating dinner plate with a dome. 14. Only trust your eyes. If you see flat when you look out at the horizon, then everything is flat. However, if I'm blind or close my eyes, oddly enough things still exist although I'm supposed to trust my eyes. 15. If your explanation is more than 3 sentences, its too long and they won't read it. Funny, because they'll spam so many memes that 3 sentences simply aren't enough to refute them. Also funny, these guys supposed did a lot of research, reading I assume, but they can't read a paragraph that directly responds to their claims because its too long... what?
"Only trust your eyes." except when looking at objects disappearing over the horizon, the motion and size of the sun and moon, the motion of stars, the orientation of the moon in different parts of the world, the seasons, etc. etc. Basically they are all just dishonest.
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Ya know, flat earthers always has answers. They have a mental disorder. To question things is really good. But this is being quite mentally crazy.
This was a terrible video that didn't even mention the two main indisputable evidences of a spherical Earth that flatearthers can easily verify for themselves.
1) The Moon flipping upside down when we travel from one hemisphere to the other.
2) Two counter-rotating celestial poles.
No flatearther has EVER been able to explain those two simple things, and for such prominent so called 'science educators' to not even mention them in this vid means that they have badly failed in their primary aim.
And for the woman to say that she 'didn't even know where to start' was just downright unprofessional.
No wonder there are so many flerfers in the US if these are the best 'educators' over there.
And their condescending attitude will only alienate flerfers even more.
Gee why don't we just entertain all sorts of idiots? How about you make a video on witches! and then make one about the illuminati! smfh...
Produce new videos these are all old videos edited together more new videos!
I debated a flat earther once. He stormed offf saying he’d walk to the edge of the Earth to prove me wrong. He’ll come round - eventually.
That’s way better than most flat earth burns so respect…….it’s still not spherical
@@donpettyandthespacefakers1798 then please enlighten us as to how you can prove this. Besides oh...... You can't.
@@donpettyandthespacefakers1798 Yes it is. Why does the sun set? Why can't you see africa from the east coast of America with good enough binoculars? Why do things fall?
The sun just goes away you can bring back the sun into focus when it allegedly goes over the curved horizontal line with nice optics you cannot see Africa from the coast because the atmosphere is dense things fall because they’re heavier than air ,helium balloons, smoke, birds just defy all rules of the theory of gravity or is it because they’re lighter than air
@@donpettyandthespacefakers1798 you do realize birds fly and generate lift with their wings right? Also once the sun is completely below the horizon the only thing you would be able to see it with us x-ray vision. So flat earthers all think they are Superman??? Please please provide video evidence of any of this. Not just some guy saying it. Thats all I ever hear and see are people saying it. I can say jupiter is made of cheese and while you can't prove me wrong, it doesn't mean I am right.
The only thing flat Earthers have to fear is sphere itself.
This comment is underrated
^^^I was just about to write that! Lol i actually laughed out loud when i read it!
Yusuf Best
It’s because their matrix is threatened.
@Yusuf Best
Your opinions don't affect anything and yes some of us do like having uniquely worded insults because you guys are a source of entertainment in the same way that a zoo exhibit is
Unoriginal.
I used to ask myself "why bother arguing with these idiots?". Then I realized "shit, these people get to vote, someone has to be responsible for teaching them something"
It's not just that. Not only do they vote, they also spread all kinds of misinformation. We could have beaten COVID just like we crushed Polio back when people trusted vaccines and were eager to get them. Now people listen to whatever garbage gets poured into their ears on the Internet, so instead of going to their doctor and taking their medicine, they were going to Tractor Supply and jacking themselves full of a horse-sized dose of Ivermectin. This isn't a funny little harmless fad belief. Flerfers lied, people died.
You can't reason someone out of a position that they were not reasoned into.
It is very hard to reason with a flat earth believer. You have to actually sit down with them and from a relationship of teacher/student in order for them to slowly realize the evidence we have. Simply debating them or telling them to do research isnt enough since they purposely do not look into any form of evidence that contradicts their views
@@godisbollocks Oh I know. The ones who aren't doing it for money or attention, the ones who truly believe it? I believe they may be suffering from a schizotypal disorder. "Magical thinking" is one of the symptoms.
Well you took a hell of a lot of shit to stack on your shoulder willingly.
Seeing as the earth is comprised of 70% uncarbonated water, it's flat...
:D
This is by far the most logical flat earth argument 😂
Seeing as we have birds flying and people doing stuff, its a sphere.
@@timm8998 Yeah that and seasons and sunsets happening. It’s insane to me that people can believe the earth is flat when even the most basic observations disprove it
LMAO
1990: teaching kids basic science
2020: teaching adults basic science
Not suprised
Except you are assuming that teaching is simply having the student studying the right answers to pass the test under a controlled learning environment.
“The mark of an educated mind is the ability to entertain a thought without having to adhere to its belief.”
All that means is that those 90s kids who are now adults in 2020 didn't pay attention in science class.
This isn’t science. It’s scientism. Nothing these morons say can be proven😂
I think you just described yourself
To quote a saying a friend has on her desk: " I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you."
That is actually a brilliant quote! I gotta use that next time. :)
Like Obama would say right," I'm gonna explain it to you and two possibilities, either I didn't explain myself good enough or you're a bigot ".roflmao
Professor Dave says something very similar: "If you can't understand that, it's not my problem."
You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink
@@stephenoetgen8752 You can drive a horse to water but a pencil must be led (lead). Old boomer joke. Best delivered orally.
Bill Nye sounds so unbelievably disappointed that this even needs to be a video
I've gotten so used to how many people are stupid that I just assume everyone is stupid unless they can prove otherwise
He's not alone
@@xINVISIGOTHx you are not alone. I will also include myself in that statement and tend to spend most of my day trying to not be stupid, where most people tend to put no effort in that daily task.
Bill Nye is a guy who thinks there's infinite genders. We're all unbelievably disappointed in him too. It's hard for me to take him seriously on one hand when on the other he's a complete loon.
@@xINVISIGOTHx n the sad n laughable thing is that they really are convinced that theyre not idiots for thinking that way
Just remember that the creator of modern flat earth, Rowbotham, dropped out at the age of 9. This is an example of the level of intelligence of the followers.
It’s scary that they had to make this video in 2020 AND it has dislikes 😒. I cannot say I am surprised with the level of absolute stupidity that is occurring on this ROUND planet
I disliked it because feeding trolls is a great way to see them more often. B.o.B. and other attention seeking flat earthers thank Neil, Nye and clueless folks like yourself.
@@HopDavid So your solution is to leave them indoctrinating the young and gullible unchecked? What do you propose then?
Hello, Brad :D I'm so happy that you're not a flat earther
The rise in the number of flat earthers is not the result of recent discoveries of hidden primitive tribes in the jungle, it is the result of intelligent people who are not satisfied with being spoon fed what is called "settled science", and want to discover the truth for themselves, and are willing to do the work to study the problem for themselves, and this number is continually increasing.
hmm, i was wondering why it got likes? because they were converted? lol
I’m perplexed. This is an actual debate these days? That alone is amazing.
They are either trolling us, or too stupid to talk.
It's a Christianity based theory because they didn't know how do describe the unknown. EDITED HERE because Christians are chomping my rump...ffs. Yes it is a Theory, one that the Flat Earth Cult, has based upon the words of, and the devout followers of Christianity. It preys upon SOME of the followers that are weak-minded enough, to fall for their Cult's theory. It is not CREATED BY Christianity, backed by Christianity. But, Christianity most CERTAINLY is used by the Flat Earth Cult to feed their fire with the words in the Bible. Every Christian that reads this, comes at me, and I have to explain. It doesn't matter where the Flat Earthers are on this planet, because the internet is Global, every country has people with access to the internet, that have become victims of the Cult. The entire Cult most certainly USES the words in the Bible, to fortify their beliefs. The Cult, preys upon the faithful, and lures them in by quoting scripture. They take the Bible as true fact word-for-word, and we all know the Bible is just stuffed to the gills with hyperbole, metaphors, and parables. So let's not aim the daggers of blame and insinuation at me here, you have the facts. Don't make assumptions and attack me, because you don't have enough knowledge on this topic. I've been doing battle with these empty brained flat earthers for over a decade. Get a clue, before you make uneducated replies to me. I am not to blame.
@@b.scottfarthingsworth some believe the earth is flat of religion, because they yake their scriptures literally
@@bubbagrump Well bubba, doesn't that fact alone show how unintelligent someone is, to believe a 2000 year old book, word for word, when we have 10 people from 4 different nations, up in the International Space Station, TODAY THIS VERY MINUTE? They, believe the words, and have faith. But faith and words alone cannot create physical reality. Ever.
@@b.scottfarthingsworth It is not a Christianity based theory whatsoever. Who engraved this ludicrous information into your mind?
I'm a studying to be an airline pilot, if the earth were flat it would make my studying A LOT easier.
Yep, Navigation and NON-Euclidian math suck.
But it proves the globe.
lol damn true
Indeed.
That's a great career choice. Good luck to you.
@@tonywilliams1493 cheers mate
It's not about the evidence. It's about feeling 'special'.
Exactly. Flatearthers themselves have proven a spherical Earth. They always choose to ignore their own evidence
kind of like scientists acting smart by disproving the flat earth lol? that michelle gal literally ripped off Aristotle without giving him credit
Arguing with a smart person is hard, but arguing with a dumb person is impossible
The idea for me is to expose them, not convince.
You cannot convince someone who ignores logical arguments they cannot refute. They are people who are too scared, immature and narcissistic to allow reason to guide their beliefs.
everyone is smart in their own fields of expertise, whatever that may be. Flat earther took their globe education and furthered it into critical thinking and applied many questionable and impossible aspects that was never questioned. This is how you become smarter, wiser and if the other person has not furthered their education in this subject that it can't be argued.
@@flatearthmembers2312 And yet not one flat earther can give supported arguments and explanations for their belief.
Give us your absolute concrete best point of physics for FE and I'll demonstrate that you guys just run when challenged to open discussion and real thinking, because you KNOW you don't have real knowledge. Watch:
@@flatearthmembers2312 "impossible aspects that was never questioned" It's "were". But you cannot show me a single one.
Will it be "Well - It's not worth arguing" or just dead silence as you run as fast as you can?
I studied physics for a decade and also covered geometry and did 3D design with computers. "Expertise" enough for you?
@@flatearthmembers2312 Ah. The old flat earther hero narrative. Pleading that you're smart, though you can't seem to win any arguments about flat earth using testable evidence: so the belief must still be true. Thus the novels about yourselves and your amazing skill start appearing.
"I've been to London. Other people have been to London. It's a real place."
This is where humanity's at right now. 😅
Sounds like a Kamala Harris speech.
There are only 2 genders, and paedo’s are butchering and grooming kids openly daily. That’s where humanity is right now.
We are at the stage where men can have periods 🤪🤪
This is where America is right now. No other country are that stupid. All other countries believe in Science.
no,not realy
The fact this even needs a video is terrifying.
Because you've been conditioned to believe that anything opposed to what you've been taught in school is terrifying. That's the actual terrifying thing.
@@nicolausthothmes2325 actually I’ve been conditioned to not buy into nut-bag conspiracy theories that don’t have any evidence to support them.
@@nicolausthothmes2325 just look at the sharp line of the horizon. I found that was enough to understand the earth's spherical shape, at 6.
@@nicolausthothmes2325 And you've been conditioned to believe absurd conspiracy BS when there is more proof now then there ever has been in history. You should have stayed in school!
@@goodday512 This is not about conspiracy. It is about thinking and asking questions. When you tell someone that he can't ask questions just because it's something that becomes normal in our life, it constitutes a real problem, and it is against freedom of thinking and analysis and against intelligence. Same goes when someone forbid himself or doesn't accept to ask or to respond to those questions. This never leads us to truth, but only to delusion.
I have a friend who believes the earth was flat. I was shocked he did. When talking about it he said "i think its more about not trusting the governement" to which I said "ok, fair, but why believe something so idiotic and easily disproven it distracts from something that does have some merit?"
Yet = the rest of the world says exactly the same thing......... So the _"I don't trust the government - or even NASA for that matter"_ argument represents the worst of facile logic. Even if you completely discount what your own government asserts = other governments - some who may not be friendly to one's own - happen to agree. This when the world rarely agrees upon anything.
Your friend of course is not merely wrong = they reflect stereotypical paranoia I'm afraid. Irrational incredulity based upon abstract argumentation so as to justify a nonsensical belief. 🤷
Yeah that’s what a lot of flat earthers are like. They just want to go against the mainstream or government narrative because it makes them feel special. Or they’re just so paranoid and delusional they can’t trust obvious facts because the establishment says they’re true.
I was once in love with a girl who couldn’t understand that earth was smaller than the sun because the sun was just a small disk in the sky. I don’t think anyone fell out of love faster than I did.
Lol my ex-wife thought the sun and the moon were the same thing. Which I'm sure she got from her mom because when she was 57...yep 57, when she noticed the sun and the moon in the sky at the same time and didn't know how it was possible...and that was after her daughter told me what she thought. No lie, I lost 20 IQ points that day.
@@arsenic1987 I’ll check it out
@@jarosbodytko6462 it's just a 1 min clip. Hehe. Forgot to mention that.
Wow. I can only imagine you thinking about your genes. Your future children.
you cant ever fix STUPID
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein maybe
This should have been a warning "there's a large amount of people who believe 'vaccines make you magnetic'"
The Earth is both flat & round PROOF= DRAW A CIRCLE ON A PIECE OF PAPER . THERE IS YOUR FLAT CIRCLE. DRAW IT 3D ITS STILL FLAT CIRCLE $luvsaid
@@GoodBarber77 So, you're not really an expert on geometry.
"I never said that" - Albert Einstein
"Don't believe everything you read online" - Sir Isaac Newton
@@GoodBarber77 Nice joke 😂
"The Flat Earth Society has members around the globe."
Dang 1.4K likes thanks 🙏
Lol
nice
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There are really dumb people around the globe.
Clever...
Bill Nye is barely containing his rage at the sheer stupidity of flat earthers.
I'm certainly not a flat earther but Bill Nye the "science guy" is hardly the person to listen to.
@@arreola891 Bill Nye is hurting the cause with his arguments.... lol Why can't you see Spain? Thousands of miles away? (Because atmosphere is dense, water condensation, particles in suspenstion.... add all of that for thousands of miles your eyes won't get to there.) . The paper work it takes to send people in space is what prohibit making fake pictures!? dafck is this guy talking about. Flat earth is ridiculous but Bill Nye is giving them ammo by serving insanely easy to rebut arguements.
N. D. Tyson didn't. I n one video, he yelled at them and used a cussword. It's got to be frustrating trying to educate people who are hell-bent on staying willfully stupid.
@@arreola891 What does it matter what type of degree someone has, (iirc he has an engineering degree)? If someone calls themselves the science guy are they claiming they have a BSC or whatever? no they aren't.
@@dannygjk Your comment doesn't change my opinion. It's okay to have opposing views.
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are stupider than that” - George Carlin
George should have said the median, not the average. Nothing guarantees that half a population will be above or below the mean of some characteristic.
@@SpottedSharks I think George didn't mean mean. He forgot to average the average.
@@SpottedSharks true. I think there are a lesser number of really smart people that bring the average higher than it probably really is.
If you ever have a job dealing with the general public, in a few years you'll know how dumb a lot of them are. You'll be astonished, actually
@LCHC1 Of course I believe in heliocentrism. That's because the Sun is the Badass Goddess. Yum.
@LCHC1 Because it's 100% true, proven beyond any doubt. Anyone who doesn't believe that is frankly, an idiot.
“Arguing with a Flat-Earther is like playing chess with a pigeon. Once he knows he’s about to lose, he knocks all the pieces over, shits on the board, and flies off and tells all his friends how he won the game.”
~ Author Unknown
Why even argue about something that doesn't matter in day-to-day life? Believing the Earth is flat has nothing to do with anything for the vast majority of people. If you tell me that person A believes the Earth is flat and person B knows it's round that doesn't tell me anything about which person is a morally better person. And that's what matters.
@@junglemoose2164 I mean yeah you’re right. But I just find it baffling that people can believe that the earth is flat. And tbh I find the fact that flat earthers try spreading misinformation and distrust in science that works so well. I think that’s what annoys me the most, distrust in proven science.
😆😅
@@junglemoose2164 Because a demonstrable, objective, factual truth matters. The universe operates on such principles. When dangerous fools deny demonstrable, objective, factual truth, everything -- everything -- becomes a matter of opinion and nothing more. Without factually-based concensus everything stops making sense. All is confusion. Confusion is no basis for coherent and stable society.
@@funkuro But Jungle Moose isn't right. That two individuals hold opposing opinions on subjective issues is one thing, denying objective fact is different and deliberately propogating a factual untruth is ethically reprehensible -- so it does say something about moral rectitude.
A wise ancient philosopher once said: "You can't argue with crazy."
- dad
With these people with no base evidence based on scientific experiments. Sphere has to move, right, ok. Don't even look at another possibility side. Your whole world will go wrong. What damn magnets and how can the moon and the sun move otherwise, right. Also god exists coz the bible proved it
@@veramanifests in the same way my comic proves iron man.
@@inkwellflood8276 the same way NASA proves us the smoothly round sphere Earth
@@spacexsays3227 Did that comment actually make any sense when you typed it?
If the Earth was actually flat, flat Earthers would say it was a globe.
🤔🤣 that is an excellent point lol
Sums it up perfectly.
Correct. They are just people who love being on the opposite side to have some sense of importance.
No - Not if the Bible 'told' them it was flat!!! It doesn't of course, but their church leaders convince them it does - or 'should'. Flat earth belief is a deliberate rejection of the Science that they fear is trying to disprove God and they are the true believers who have to fight against everything non-'biblical' to retain the 'Truth' of God and their bible.
The world is currently fighting a war, one promoted by and practiced/fought by certain sections of christian cults including many 'evangelicals' who are convinced the world is being controlled by Satan and their duty as christians is to counter what they see as evil by any and all means possible. Trump is playing these people to do his bidding and pretending to be on their side. The cults are happy to be played as they think Trump is 'one of them'.
People of science have to fight back and show this quackery for what it truly is.
The flat earth movement is figurative
I love how “not having it” Bill Nye is. You can tell he’s sick of everyone’s shit.
We are also sick of the shit from Bill Nye the fake Science Guy. Yes, the Earth is a Globe, but Bill Nye is flat!
@@Ken_James_SV whats the issue with bill nye, since apparently everyone has an issue with everyone.
@@Ken_James_SV yet he has more science degrees than most of us ever will have, just trying to teach science in a fun way to kids is such a lost of credentials
@@Xymage what is it with your generation trying to invalidate people you either dont like (for whatever flimsy made up reason) or disagree with?
@@Xymage how about try proving me wrong, I know basic biology and everything I've seen is pretty spot on
Oh and Einstein was a sellout as well but you don't see anyone invalidating him
The fact that these three amazingly intelligent scientists had to spend their time doing this is a travesty.
You mean these actors that play scientists.
@@SamPedroCactus Said the “human with a brain” imposter.
What kind of scientist is Nye? Google says he a mechanical engineer and a science communicator and television actor/presenter.
That’s the state American education is in…..having to reprove things that were proved millennia ago!
@@AspenTruth no he is right though, the only one of them who is actually a scientist is Neil.
The fact that we need videos like these in 2020 CE is really sad.
2020 ad not not 2020 commen era
Ad means "Anno Domini" and basically means "in the year of God". Saying CE is just more religion neutral.
Anno domini is better the lord is alive god is real
Christopher Herron
Traditionally, it’s “AD 2020,” not the reverse, so be sure you get right the thing you’re advocating for. Based on historical evidence Jesus wasn’t born in AD 1 but rather sometime between 6 and 4 BC. This discrepancy is due to the fact that the _Anno Domini_ system wasn’t devised until over five centuries after Jesus’ time. Since there was no universal way of reckoning the passage of calendrical time back then, Dionysius Exiguus got his timeline mixed up a bit.
We use the CE/BCE system to be gracious to those who do not share our faith.
TPD or just say 2020. Much simpler
1:30 You don't even need binoculars. The fact that you can see a defined horizon in the first place is all the evidence you need of curvature. If the earth was flat the water would just carry on until you couldn't see it any longer due to atmospere and pollution. There would be no clearly defined horizon between the water and the sky.
This is what happens when you say 'there are no stupid questions'
lmfao this needs to be at the top of the comment section
I tell all of my students that there are stupid questions and stupid answers. Asking how something works because you don’t know, because you’ve never been taught is not stupid.
@@seankrake4776 but surely almost every adult passed the basic education system knowing the shape of the earth?
@@rishikagoswami5891 I don’t disagree. Asking for a proof the earth is round when so many examples exist is a stupid question. Asking questions about specific phenomena because you don’t understand them is great. I teach about electricity. Asking how mutual inductance between two coils works is great. Asking why iron man doesn’t get shocked by the arc reactor in his chest, a stupid question. Arguing the earth is flat, dumbest of them all
@@seankrake4776 hey! Why doesn't Ironman get shocked by the Arc reactor in his chest anyway!?
"Arguing with stupid people is like killing the Mosquito on Your Cheek.
.You might Kill it or not but You'll end up Slapping Yourself for sure."
This is BY FAR the most underrated comment I have ever read in my life and I live on RUclips. So much in fact I felt I had no choice but to show my wife. Well done indeed lol.
violence and ridicule is ´ball believer´cleverness.....
Hahaha👏👏👏
Love this
It's hilarious how globe believers use this reasoning to reinforce their delusion that they are not the ones this applies to.
Anyone else reading the comments looking for a flat earther rambling??
Looks like you got a reply from one...
Cesar, here's a formula to prove we do live on a globe:
n = r/9x67y (f)
This comes from my friend who's never wrong, so it must be true! 🤦♂️
Edit: For anyone who can't see this comment for what it is, obviously I made up the "formula". Or, just maybe, I accidentally proved the earth is in fact a globe! 🤯 Nope, it's just gibberish...
@César Omar Raudales It is really sad to see someone forefeit all education received in years and fall for a hoax.
@César Omar Raudales None of your crap has the slightest impact on the problem. If your flat Earth exists, show it to us. Where's your evidence for your Big Ice Wall and your "dome", for starters? And when you fail to provide any, how about you explain where the shadow on the moon comes from during a lunar eclipse? Bit inconvenient for you that your flat Earth Sun and Moon are both close to Earth and never disappear over a horizon, wouldn't you say? No, of course you wouldn't - evidence and logic escape you morons entirely.
@César Omar Raudales What holds in your fantasy flat oceans?
@@phildavenport4150 I wish I could like more than once
Saying someone "schooled" a flat earther is like saying you beat someone in a jog a thon with no legs.
As Bob the Science Guy says:
There are two kinds of flat-earthers, those who sell t-shirts, and those who buy them.
And those who have a flat brain
@@daysrann "And those who have a flat brain" are the ones who BUY the t-shirts.
Awesome. That's entrepreneurship right there.
one kind of globetard, those who are triggered by others cosmology project much? psychology 101
@@supermagneticman My profound apologies if facts get in the way of your beliefs; there is nothing we can do about that!
The most disturbing part of this video is that they’re actually addressing adults who vote and not 8 year old children.
They could let monkeys and 4 year olds vote and it would not make a difference. All the choices presented to us to vote on are bought, paid for, and not in the public's best interest.
Exactly. People retarded asf bro. This shit crazy. People really out here arguing plain logic. I've had people argue if grass is green. Smfh. 😒😒☠️
I can't express this enough. I can't understand how this is even remotely possible than ADULTS believe the Earth is flat. "Forces from the dark side" is literally how that feels 😂
@@jadewolf6411 You know, after seeing all the facts and doing the experiments myself including some amazing tecnical engineering calculations regarding train tracks and bridges
And debunking the entire globe mathematics that insists that the earths radius is calculated at 8 inches squared per mile times the height in feet of the observer height was in fact easy...
I find it astonishing that people just believe what they are told in school blindly without question in an attempt by the Rockerfella foundation that paid for all our books and atlases in every single classroom with a label under them stating that it is not for educational purposes
That you would question your fellow God loving and Fearing Brothers and sisters that have come back to our Lord and Saviour because of this revelation of truth setting us all free
Wr cannot have it both ways
We can only serve 1 creator
Big Bang BS that is also Darwinism where everything magically created itself from nothing
Or that we are all one, by intelligent design and given life by our creator as per Genesis
Do yourself a favour...
Realise that Flat earth is pictured in Bibles, Ancient works and civilisations that were far more advanced than we are now and give them credit for not being as stupid as we are not to know where we live, who we are or how we got here...
Because that my friend is the most niave a man or woman could ever be...
We do not live on a smarties tube?
Where all we can see on a coast line from left to right is a dead flat and level horizontal horizon level where we allegedly go over this tube they say is some kind of sphere...
When you get a high powered camera, or telescope we can just zoom back in again when there is supposed to be 100's and even 1000's of feet in some observations that is missing of alledged curvature between you and the object or ship you are looking at the hull of again...
Deep down, I do not believe you are stupid or dumb and are quite capable of proving that their globe is a flat out lie yourself like I did...
You will be angry of course, nobody likes being lied to their entire lives, but your anger will be where it deserve to be, at those that lied to you, and like me, they will never ever be able to lie and get away with it again...
Good luck, and remember, the easiest experiment to do and disprove the globe is by defeating the globe models earth curvature.
But you know in your heart, we do not move, water at rest always lays level, the stars rotate us and never deform after 1000's of years of allegedly going lunatic speeds in their imaginary universe and God is watching from above on his throne upon a sapphire stone 👍🏻🍻
Keeping our departed loved ones close to his side ✝️
@@jadewolf6411 . I hope and pray you will see it too one day SOON
"its hard to argue with a genius but its impossible to argue with an idiot"
someone
(edit oo 500 likes i think the quote is from einstine btw)
You mean a biblical literalist? There are also quite a lot of Muslims as well who believe the qur'an.
@@cosmiccomet5257 My apologies, in the context it meant believe the qur'an says the Earth is flat.
@@cosmiccomet5257 Funny that rather a lot of Muslims believe otherwise which means you don't know very much outside your own little uninformed and bigoted bubble. You are no different from Christians who claim the bible doesn't. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it isn't true it just means you don't like it.
Same thing.
@@CraniumCannibal Get back under your rock.
In round numbers, the Equator is 24,000 miles (40,000 km) long and 6000 miles (10,000 km) from the North Pole. These figures have been measured pretty accurately by navigators for over two hundred years. You can't fit them both on a flat map. This alone shows that the Earth cannot be flat.
The mapping thing works, basically, as long as you stay in the northern hemisphere. It was found out by early attempts at circumnavigation that the actual miles are way off if you use the spherical model, in the extreme southern ocean.
@heavenaboveearthbelow6237 So are you claiming that the North Pole is not 6000 miles from the Equator, and/or that the Equator is not 24,000 miles in circumference? Can you name a navigator who disagrees with these figures?
And whose extreme southern circumnavigation distance are you using? If it's that of James Cook (whom most flat Earthers cite), please look up the exact route he took.
@@therealzilch There is other examples one can look at, more recent ones, such as people who were participants on a sailboat race around the world, where the speeds of the boats are too slow for the capacity of the boats, and also that the winds were actually with them, when they were close to the southern extreme of their trip.
I am not impressed with people who make claims about the south, who have never actually been south of the equator themselves.
I crossed the equator myself in a ship, years ago, in the Indian Ocean off of Africa. It was very flat, as I remember it and could easily see the ships that were in our group who were so many miles away that they should have been far over the horizon, if the Earth was actually a globe.
Anyway, go to the south like Tasmania or something and make a video of the Southern Cross and upload it to RUclips, and I might be impressed.
I remember a video I saw years ago and now cannot find, of someone trying to make a star trail from southern Australia, and he had such a thing as a result, and he also documented his recording the sky with a telescope, that he used to make a star trail from. Interestingly, in the story line of the documentary, as the Sun was coming up, it was exactly where he was supposedly pointing his telescope to look at the southern version of Polaris.
@@heavenaboveearthbelow6237 I've berm south of the Equator, in Tanzania. From there, Polaris was just below the horizon. How is this possible, if the Earth is flat?
@@therealzilch The same way that the Sun goes beyond our horizon. Just that it is not moving away, but stands still. It just becomes to far away to see. How this can even be a thing is by considering the distance from us the star really is. It would have to be very close to us to start with to make any difference to us if we are on one part of the earth or another.
Now, to to discount the idea that these were actually discrete points in some vast space, individual suns in a galaxy or even more far away, the best way is to point out that our hypothetical orbit around the Sun does not show parallax that we would expect.
It's mind boggling that some people need to have this explained to them.
Actually FEarther know both models, it is the Globe believers who do not know even their own globe model.... And there in lies the stupidity, Globers depend on Nasa for explinations- which are Lies
@@dallasquinley8493 flatearther much? Thise aren't lies, how many rockets have u seen gone to space? Millions, what they say us true, its not that hard to understand that what nasa says is true, tell me something nasa said that was a lie and i will help ur brain understand, like how big stars are, are those lies? No, why is the moon round? Why is the sun round? Why is everything round in space? Bc of gravity, planets moons stars, they are all round bc of gravity, how is nasa lying?
@@dallasquinley8493 globe believers which are not beliefs, they are people who actually know the earth is round, not some idiots who think only the sun is tiny and above earth
@@dallasquinley8493 we dont depend on nasa nasa itself is just globe "believers" who have been to space and seen the earth from outer space, u think those are lies bc u dont understand basic science, go study kid if ur gonna be stupid enough to say gravity has no power on earth then ur hopeless, why cant we float in earth? Gravity, why is the moon qnd all the planets in our solar system and different solar systems round? Why is the sun round? Why is the earthround? Gravity, otherwise we would'nt even be able to live, the earth would'nt even exist ur brainless
@@dallasquinley8493 wtf lmao you can literally use every day physics to observe that the earth is round. Go away with your braindead conspiracy shit.
I like flat earther for two reason.
1.I am relieved that there are people who are more stupid than me.
2.Because of them , we can watch scientists teaching us some science and stuffs about earth .
That's the true conspiracy, they are using fools to make us learn things
That level of stupidity Must be the work of an enemy stand user.
@@PresidentValentine A fellow JoJo fan,I see.
Funny enough we are probably all significantly smarter than you and we literally empirically falsified the claimed radius of the globe earth. Catch up.
@@Witsit Flat Earthers are so stupid they cannot even tell that the company they keep are stupid! Not a single flat Earther knows how any of our technology works nor builds or maintains it. But you are a stone-age flatty, so even that wont give you a clue.
The scary thing is, flat earthers also vote.
I received this comment from one of them "It’s time for people to understand that government USA bunch of lying devils. Trust God and Trump in that order. God is using President Trump to expose the truth about these lying devils like God used Noah, Moses and Abraham."
@woosh if gay What concerns me are what I term "passing tourists", i.e. those that are unsure etc., and if you believe Trump at al are not a problem then you have problems and are stupid. Trump et al are bad for the USA and sorting out things like AGW &ACC.
Perhaps this a good moment to reflect on the timeline of Trump’s statements:
20 January: "We have it under control”.
26 February: "It’s going to disappear”.
10 March: "It will go away”.
29 April: "It’s gonna be gone”.
11 May: "We have prevailed”.
17 June: "It’s fading away”.
19 July: "I’ll be right eventually”.
@Stephine Smith Go and troll elsewhere.
@Stephine Smith As I stated, go and troll elsewhere.
@Stephine Smith this video is completely fucked when it comes to actual science. Theyre using theories not science. Learn the difference idiot. Only globe proofs are cgi and fisheye lens photos. Sounds like theres some flaws. And as dumb bitch says earth casts the shadow on the moon... How bout when the moon is half full, earth is only flat that day? You globe tards dont even think, you let the government do it for ya.
I want to thank Bill Nye for combating stupidity
don't you think some of the F.E. points are interesting tho?
"No amount of evidence, will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain.
I agree. Lost some friends, because THEY tried to convince me about a flat Earth.
lol
lmao even
That's why globers are still out there.
@@unknown_media_devicesurely mark Twain is a glober!
He was exclusively talking about globe believers 🎯
Flat earthers: prove me the earth is round!
People: there you have it.
Flat earthers: everything is a lie
Honestly 😂 you give them vast amounts of proof and then discredit what you say because you’re “indoctrinated”
that's what Neil was saying about debates
@@Hammer_Of_Olympia gravity: it is an illusion
The horizon on coasts: it is a myth
Other plants are a sphere: earth is flat
They reject evidence and proof with just "I don't buy it, it is a lie/myth"
David Scott I know, it’s all utter nonsense. But you can’t save people from their own insanity and ineptitude. It’s a shame these cunts exist
@@Hammer_Of_Olympia they are so frustrating
why bother ? if flat earthers would be receptive to scientific reasoning, they wouldn't be flat earthers in the first place. Any energy spent on this debate is energy lost to real topics.
^This. Stop giving them a spotlight.
A large portion of them are just trolling
@@vaolin1703 I am with you on that. I've came across a few that aren't, but yea, for the most part it's exactly what a troll would do: pick a really dumb topic, pretend you believe it, have fun wasting people's time and pissing them off. :)
Because globe Earth is the biggest lie and they want to hide to truth.
@ANDMA its extremely dangerous and can send us back 2500 years.
3:37 if the earth was flat, and the shadow on the moon was round, your couldn’t seen the sun and the moon at the same time. You could only face one.
"Go to a seashore."
Unfortunately they're not going anywhere if it's not on RUclips.
They google....sometimes.
its funny to watch then explain
they would have to climb the stairs from mom's basement.
Most of them are so hopelessly antisocial that they never learned to drive or talk to people. Why we continuously listen to their drivel would be laughable if it weren't such an existential crisis for our species.
Good one mate
NASA: *Send flat earther on space
Flat Earthers: Wow CGI is getting real and real
hell claim its VR instead
Push them out an airlock
Send Them Off The SpaceShip!!!!!!
Then They Will See That The Earth Is Round And They Will See That There Is An AfterLife.
You Will Prove 2 Things With One Action.
@@bornkinggamer3347 u're a shady programmer
@@bornkinggamer3347 ikr
The pain in their voices for even having to address this 'issue' is palpable.
You cannot argue with flat-earthers they are right! You also can't argue with round earthers because they are right as well! The 2nd dimension exists within the 3rd. Therefore it is both. Talking about this subject keeps people from seeing what is truly important!
Especially Bill Nye. He seemed like he wanted nothing to do with such ridiculous nonsense
Agreed. And the more people address it the more legitimate it seems. Ignore them and let their ideas die on the vine.
@@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler Actually, your statement is quite erroneous, simply because there is terrain with altitude, and depth below the sea level. A two-dimensional Earth would be like a map, and nothing more. In other words, even a hypothetical (nonexistent) flat Earth would exist in 3 dimensions.
@@MickRissling we can't ignore these fools they end up getting elected and become policymakers.
To have people who genuinely think the earth is flat in the 21st century is an indictment on our education system
Don't blame that on educational system. No science or geography class is teaching that the earth is flat, people are choosing to be stupid.
@splitrat but a functional education system must teach people how to think critically, that's the point I am trying to make.
@@PanAfricanist1963Yeah the problem is stupid people don’t listen to what they’re being taught. You can’t teach someone who has no interest in learning.
If the Earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything over the edge by now.
Facts.
😂😂😂
True. Cats are evil.
My favorite explanation I've ever heard!
The earth's edge is in the sky where the earth's atmosphere meets space. Not on ground. This is why round earthers are stupid 😂
Michelle is on the verge of pulling her hair out, Neil is planning his black hole trip, and Bill is seriously questioning how an entire generation that watched his shows can think the earth is flat.
I love that other people know about his black hole trip. I don't know how many heard about it.
Only BRAINWASHED people believe. We knów !!!! HOW IGNORANT IS THIS!!! wow
maybe because people are waking up to the indoctrination that is started at a young age. nasa is infiltrated with freemasons and satanists.
Because reality debunks them.
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Yes, reality debunks flat earth cult beliefs. I agree
The fact this is discussed in this day and age is just appalling.
Bill's Expression after being asked is hilarious... he's like "come on, someone shoot me know and save me from this eternal stupidity." Neil's expression is like here we go again... and Michelle is starting to realize people are really THAT stupid.
George Carlin was absolutely right about stupid people.
Especially when we literally have video and photos from space.
@Ludus Aurea To make up the average of the intelligence of the entire human race, someone has to be the minimum. Flerfs are that minimum.
Also for people like you and me who aren't completely insane photo evidence is pretty good evidence. Not so for flerfs. That's how conspiracy theories survive. Any information proving the theory, no matter the source, is true and gospel. Anything disproving the theory is made up by a cabal of Satanists/government/foreigners/something.
You're right. The sooner everyone gets on side with Jesuit Sun Worship, the sooner we can kick Armageddon off once and for all!
The only "debate" involving flat Earthers should be what kind of mental health or critical thinking skills assistance they might need.
🎯 There was a doco some years ago about Flerfs. To one with a discerning eye it was easily recognizable that while some Flerfs were clearly highly educated = all manifested dysfunctional personalities.
These were individuals who _"did not fit in"_ as the saying goes and who often represented people incapable of normally participating in society. As such believing in ""Flat Earth" allowed them a _"sense of community"_ by facilitating their hooking up with like-minded - yet still dysfunctional - individuals. It's actually kinda sad really. 🤷
@@varyolla435 - That makes total sense. If you think of the name of that doc let me know, I'd love to see it.
@@crashburn3292 _"Behind the Curve"_
@@varyolla435 Thank you.
The fact that timezones exist in the first place should already be proof enough
You're thinking of the ancient flat Earth models. The modern ones can explain timezones but can't explain night or eclipses.
@@warmachineuk The modern one apparently involves magic beams of light which don't behave as any other light source do. Not exactly Occam's razor there.. Anyway, that was the answer when I once asked why when talking with family over Skype, half the world away, that it was dark where they were, late night as it were, and bright daylight here (mid day).
I doubt many flat-earthers are smart enough to even understand the concept of time zones.
@@skyhawk_4526 plenty of videos out there showing you evidence that NASA, SpaceX, and China all fake space. Plenty of proof. Why fake it if it’s real?
@@tohaason the current model of nonsense concludes that the sun hangs on a string and paints the light across the earth. Don't forget these people also think there is a wall of ice holding in the oceans. These people also call themselves environmentalists... Think about that.
I like feet......
Or perhaps atmodisk. Unless it's another of their premises that the Earth is not only flat, it's also infinitely thin. In which case it should be atmocircle. But that would put them on shaky ground. Ground that is really thin....
underrated comment
Hey that's really great, never thought of that. Very clever.
I already coined it We call it the atmosPLANE like airPLANE not airSPHERE, get a clue.
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It's amazing to think there are flat earthers, scattered all around the globe.
And having offspring as well
Oh! I see what you did there. Very clever. Is that your best argument?
answer me this, How is it possible to see a ship, the entire ship, out at sea over 200 miles out? shouldnt that be going around the globe? Nikon P900 Cameras have many videos of this. Explain that to me. If you could also explain how we have video at over 120,000 ft of altitude with no visible curve. I would assume at some point we would see it. Im not saying its flat but what I am saying is we've been lied too. With those 2 examples theres only 2 logical conclusions.. Either the Earth really is flat(its not ) OR weve been lied to and its much MUCH larger than what they tell us that its 25,000 miles in circumference. Why would that be? Interesting to say the least
@@mysticricorok8481 yeah you're right. All countries, astronomers, astronauts, space agencies, test pilots, amateur rocket enthusiasts etc. are all in on a huge scheme to deceive the human race that the earth is a globe. Even though all astronomy confirms that the surrounding planets and moons are all globes, but yeah, the earth is a flat disc. Hell, even eclipses prove that planets, just like ours, are globes. Some people need to have their heads examined. Go ahead and keep believing a fiction.
@@UTarcher72 you obviously didnt read a word of what I said. Might wana start doing that before making yourself look dumb bud.. Kinda embarrassed for ya
Their excuse for a boat disappearing is you can’t see that far
But michelle had a comeback for that, its that you’d see the WHOLE boat get smaller rather than the bottom of it disappear to the top.
Yeah that excuse is also dumb and doesn't make sense
Just buy a telescope or cool binoculars. Oh wait flat earthers broke…
Its how your vision works.
Watch something disappear over the horizon, then view them again through a high powered zoom lens and poof, the object reappears like magic before seeming to again dip behind the horizon as it moves out of range of the zoom lens.
@@jacksonfurlong3757 no actually, you will still not see the bottom of the boat. The bottom doesn't "reappear" once it's gone over the horizon, because of curvature.
the fact that this is still a huge topic is the reason why we may never become an interplanetary civilization
That's a savage comment lmao. I love it.
That is so f***ing true that it scares me.
Not just this topic but racism and other major things as well thats keeping us back form ever advancing into the future like war, corruption and poverty that just focusing on money and resources to spend and waste lives on and instead of like technology or a more healthier environment and to live longer and better, and if we did have planetary civilization and with all of this happening we could cause even a greater threat nit just another world war but more like interglacial Wars and fighting for freedom with other different species out there because of our own choices we make
@@maplehazlekittymeow Yeaaahhh, I guess we will never be an interplanetary civilization. And it is better that way
@@toxicboi3768 its like we are our own extinction
"When one side has objective truth and the other does not, it should not be debated." ~NDT.
Exactly. I'm tired of indulging idiocy.
That clown can't stick to one position. In this video he says those are fighting words and writes to a rapper. But when tasked against one of the flat earth leaders, he backs out and says he's not debating anymore. Lol
@@Chronz because ignorance on that magnitude will never be breached, even when faced with overwhelming amounts of evidence provided by people who have done the work.
@@Chronz 🐦
@@Chronz 🐦
Exactly. By arguing with these people, you are implying that there is something to debate. There isn't. You wouldn't debate whether the number 6 is bigger than the number 5, or that Lebron James is taller than Danny Devito, so why debate the shape of the earth?
I think the scientific community is taking the wrong approach with flat earth debunking. It shouldn't be a study in math or physics, it should be a study in psychology. It's not hard to prove the earth is round - the hard part is understanding the way people think that would make them believe otherwise.
@Hey Girl I Like Your Kitchen Romania Exact same thing is happening with climate change. If someone says climate change isn’t real, you cannot convince them otherwise with words, data, and research alone.
@Hey Girl I Like Your Kitchen Romania Thats absolute bullshit because the “99%” proposition came after Exxon and other oil companies paid millions of dollars in a wide “most scientists disagree on climate change” misinformation campaign.
“The American Meteorological Society (AMS) issued this position statement: "Scientific evidence indicates that the leading cause of climate change in the most recent half century is the anthropogenic increase in the concentration of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, tropospheric ozone, and nitrous oxide." (Adopted April 15, 2019)
The American Geophysical Union (AGU) issued this position statement: "Human-induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate observed over the last 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." (Reaffirmed in November 2019)
The American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) What We Know site states: "Based on the evidence, about 97 percent of climate scientists agree that human-caused climate change is happening.””
“These scientific organizations have not issued statements in a void; they echo the findings of individual papers published in refereed scientific journals. The Institute for Scientific Information (ISI) maintains a database of over 8,500 peer-reviewed science journals, and multiple studies of this database show evidence of overwhelming agreement among climate scientists. In 2004, science historian Naomi Oreskes published the results of her examination of the ISI database in the journal Science. She reviewed 928 abstracts published between 1993 and 2003 related to human activities warming the Earth's surface, and stated, "Remarkably, none of the papers disagreed with the consensus position."
This finding hasn't changed with time. In 2016, a review paper summarized the results of several independent studies on peer-reviewed research related to climate. The authors found results consistent with a 97-percent consensus that human activity is causing climate change.
Probably the most definitive assessments of global climate science come from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Founded by the United Nations in 1988, the IPCC releases periodic reports, and each major release includes three volumes: one on the science, one on impacts, and one on mitigation. Each volume is authored by a separate team of experts, who reviews, evaluates, and summarizes relevant research published since the prior report. Each IPCC report undergoes several iterations of expert and government review. The 2007 IPCC report, for instance, received some 90,000 comments, and each comment received an individual response.”
I think so they have to do is say, just find the edge. Case solved
You can tell which one of these guys has actually dealt with flat earth morons. Michelle is all bubbly and enthusiastic, Bill Nye can barely hold back his eye-roll 😂😂
Whenever you feel stupid, just remember that there are flat earthers.
Garbage
found one
@@ervisalmighty2282 what a clown
@@freezeframeplease trash you feel brave from far
@@beginnerpiano73 Don't be a flat earther. the earth is round not flat.
Just as Neil said, there's no point debating something that's objectively true. Save yourself some energy and let people like flat earthers talk to a wall or something while you do something productive with your life.
It is not objectively true though, do your own due diligence and research it. Those boats dissappearing over the horizon is from perspective and you can zoom in and they will reappear. Water always finds its own level, its not curved.
@@Dreadz42 you can go to a really high mountain point, yes you will see the boat again but guess what, eventually that boat will travel over the horizon and it will be out of your vision once again.
@@Hex_Glitches dont bother. He will find a reason to not listen to you
@@Hex_Glitches Hes saying you dont have to move to a higher elevation, you just need a high powered camera and when you zoom in it brings the entire ship back into view again. It is a perspective thing, the ship is not actually going over a physical curvature.
@@Hex_Glitches ofcourse brother, those boats will eventually disappear mostly due to perspective, angular resolution, atmospheric factors, refraction and other optical phenomena. It will happend starting at the bottom of the boat usually over water( but not only similar phenomena happens when we drive in the summer on the highway we can see the mirroring effects of refraction...)
It is not due to geometrical horizon.
Can we all commend the amount of sheer PATIENCE these guys had while explaining this
They are paid by deep state
Do you actually believe carbon dioxide, at 0.04% of the atmosphere (near enough to zero really, dangerously) necessary for photosynthesis, is actually causing global warming? These idiots talk about it but know it isn't true. I have an IQ of 130...The climate is a chaotic system, therefore unpredictable...from High school math...so when they talk about predicting the climate with climate models, know they are BS'ing you! I never fell for that lie but I did the spherical earth. Look at an 'air map', its where flight paths come from, it is the Gleeson flat earth map, which just happens to be on the UN flag...which pushes climate BS too. Hiding the truth in plain sight (in a gun sight of all things, look at the flag!). Symbolism and BS'ing the sheep is their favourite pastimes it looks.
That's because they knew someone was listening to them. No so with flefrs.
I didn't get any new information from this video, It's the same old geographic studies, some legislative lectures, and personal views of a debate that might be true.
@@PeterOdion-fe9tnYou don’t need need to perform scientific experiments to prove the Earth is not flat. To assume it’s flat is just ignorant.
Cats prove the earth is round, if it were flat they would have pushed everything off the edge by now.
True
This comment never fails to make me laugh.
It's not ok to think that the Earth is flat". Thaller pretty much sums up how doomed we are.
Tyson looks so exhausted by this insanity.
Its ok. Everyone did just fine believing it for ages
@@Chronz No we didn't. Erastothenese of ancient Grece calculated the circumference of the Earth using an obelisk in Alexandria and a well in Syrene. It's not ok to be more ignorant than people 2000 years ago.
@jstnjpeg the point remains
@@majacovic5141 yes we did. Ur ignorant to history if you think 1 person makes up collective consciousness. There's alot about the ancients we don't understand
@@Chronz If humanity again believes the earth is flat, you can say goodbye to technology that relies on satellites, and those cargo ships that get you all those goods from overseas
“People have known the earth is spherical for thousands of years.” She made one of the best roasts I’ve ever tasted.
Legend how has no one in the comments noticed😭
People have known the world World was round for hundreds or thousands of years based on recent discouveries - It's only our modern civilization or European civilization that was not aware of this until recently
how could they know anything with their caveman like telescopes and ideas , now we have the technology to prove one way or the other , and it has been
@@outerlands3382 heard of the well experiment
@@ah3750 ha , that's a good one , that's funny , ha
My daughter, 5 years old at the time, was astonished when I told her that there are people that think the earth is flat. I still remember her response, “you look out and you see the sun is a sphere, the moon is a sphere, of course the earth must also be a sphere.” I’ve never thought of it that way.
Your daughter is 5 times smarter than any flat earthier
Actually, the sun and the moon don't appear to be spheres for sure, but they do appear to be round, for sure.
Of course, 3D spheres always appear to be perfectly round when viewed from any angle, but so are 2D disks when viewed exactly face (not edge) on.
Don't get me wrong, I certainly do believe the sun, the earth and the moon are spheres. But an argument that a Flat Earther could make (all other evidence aside) is that the moon could be a disk that is tidally locked to the earth - so that it always shows its perfectly round flat face when we look at it from earth.
@@bryan3dguitar Not disagreeing with you, but just so you know - All spheres are 3D.
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I'll take "Things That Never Happened" for 200 dollars, Alex.
this is why the earth is a globe:
Horizon and Ship Observation: When a ship sails away from shore, it gradually disappears from the bottom up. This happens because the Earth’s surface curves, and as the ship moves farther away, the lower parts of it are obscured first.
Shadow on the Moon: During a lunar eclipse, the Earth casts a shadow on the Moon, and this shadow is always round. Only a spherical object can cast a round shadow from any angle.
Time Zones: The Earth experiences different times of day (day and night) simultaneously in different places because of its curvature. A flat Earth wouldn’t have this effect; everyone would see the sun rise and set at the same time.
Gravity: Gravity pulls objects toward the center of mass. On a spherical Earth, gravity is more or less equal in all directions, keeping everything pulled toward the core. On a flat Earth, gravity would behave very differently, and things would likely not fall straight down.
Airplane Flight Paths: Long-distance airplane routes often follow curved paths when plotted on a flat map. This is because the Earth is a globe, and the shortest distance between two points on a globe is not a straight line on a flat map, but a curve.
These evidences, along with centuries of scientific research, confirm that the Earth is a globe.
---and this what flat-shitiest can't proof:
The best evidence disproving the flat Earth theory comes from various scientific observations that would be impossible if the Earth were flat. Here are some key points:
1. The Earth's Curved Shadow During Lunar Eclipses
During a lunar eclipse, the Earth casts a shadow on the Moon. This shadow is always curved, regardless of where the eclipse is viewed from on Earth. A flat object cannot cast a consistently curved shadow from every angle. This directly disproves the flat Earth model.
2. The Disappearance of Ships Over the Horizon
On a flat Earth, ships would always remain fully visible as they sail away. However, when watching a ship from shore, it disappears bottom-first, with the mast being the last to go out of sight. This is due to the curvature of the Earth, as the ship moves further along the curved surface.
3. Photographs from Space
Numerous photos and videos taken by satellites, astronauts, and even high-altitude balloons show the Earth as a globe. These images are consistent, showing the Earth’s spherical shape from all angles. Claims that these images are faked require an implausible conspiracy among all the world’s space agencies.
4. Flight Paths
Long-haul international flights often follow curved routes when plotted on a flat map. This is because the shortest distance between two points on a sphere (the Earth) is a great circle route. If the Earth were flat, these routes would not make sense, and airlines would not fly them.
5. Gravity
On a spherical Earth, gravity pulls everything toward the center, creating a relatively uniform experience of "down" everywhere. On a flat Earth, gravity would pull at an angle as you moved toward the edges, making life impossible. The way gravity behaves is direct evidence of the Earth's spherical shape.
6. Time Zones
On a flat Earth, the Sun would rise and set at the same time for everyone. But we observe different time zones across the globe, where people experience day and night at different times. This variation occurs because the Earth is a rotating sphere, allowing for day on one side while it’s night on the other.
7. The Visible Curvature from High Altitudes
From high-altitude locations, like mountaintops or planes flying at cruising altitude, you can see the curvature of the Earth. Additionally, high-altitude balloon experiments conducted by amateurs and professionals alike show clear video footage of the Earth’s curvature.
---you guys have to use this comment every where : copie it pls every where this shit debat start!
I know a flat earther. I told him there wasnt a lot of people that think the earth is flat, but their numbers are growing daily. Now they can be found all over the globe. He was like,"That's because people are catching on to the truth." He strutted off, totally missing the joke.😂
😂😂😂😂
The Earth is round, just not a sphere. 😅
Ha Ha Ha - look in a mirror - ie the glass is flat - but you know that the face is actually three dimensional... dont be a Willy Wombat.. @@ALofiLife
@@ALofiLife the earth is spherically shaped. It is not a disk. It is very large. It is so massive that it has its own gravitational pull. Gravity is not a theory. It is a force that pulls everything towards its center. That is why dropped objects, like car keys and microphones for example, fall 'down'. Children get this, but grown adults are having trouble with this concept. So much so, that they are denying everything that they have been taught and would rather believe a crackpot idea spouted by a tattoo artist instead of every scientist who ever lived.
No wonder Bill Nye looks disappointed. He spent a good portion of his life educating the future. This is what the future has produced; willful stupidity .
Sounds a little like the first Flat Earth Conference. Where they proudly announced that people attended from all around the globe 🤣. Really!
My favorite part of this video is Bill Nye not doing a good job hiding his disdain for the flat-earth idiots 🤣
People in the wrong are always mad when the truth is presented to them.
He's like Professor Dave, who has absolutely ZERO chill, when calling out those morons. If you havn't seen his videos debunking flat earth (globebusters) you will learn about the dunning krueger effect, and every time they say something stupid, you will see this graph and this little tune pop up, because of his videos lmao.
That breaks the rule of free speech. As of now you guys are just talking shit and stuff like that is how dumbasses get killed in real life. In the real world it is illegal to go to someone and call them idiot or stupid or moron. Those that break this law gets killed and the killer won't get any jail time for it because harassment is illegal. Just saying. When on the internet, number one rule. Watch what you say. Rule two don't claim anything or someone will force you to prove it or get DoXed or DDoS. Rule number three, have fun. As long as you don't break these rules, you should be safe online. I hope you guys learned something today. Btw, why no one talking about Hollow Earth? We have more than just Flat Earth Globe Earth and Disk Earth. Come on people get with the times. This is 2022 going on 2023. Not 1770...
I mean, when someone so blatantly spits in the face of science and physics, it's bound to upset someone who's so passionate about it like him.
@@Solesteam Still breaks the rule of free speech since you can't use these words if you going to talk about free speech. There are reasons why people get shot in real life for saying stuff that is known as illegal in the area. And they shouldn't spit at all. It is illegal to spit unless you spitting rhymes.
The crazy part is that these flatearthers still used cell phones, GPS and other devices but they don't believe the Earth is round...These people pick and choose the reality they want to believe
The GPS is of course part of the conspiracy. They know the erath is flat and GPS is using singals from earth and somehow the whole model that is presented of us is a globe, but the program knows it´s flat. It´s mathamatics, of course. Because believing the earth is round gives government a power over us... I don´t know how or what power but it does... FE guys say that and they are right everytime. Cause if there´s soe argument against FE, then it´s fraud, conspiracy or outright lie.
They choose to believe what they want as long as their experiments show them what they already wanted to see in the first place.
What would that have to do with it?
@@humanbeing1429 we don't want to. My ego doesn't like being lied 2
@polka If they were smart enough to decompile apps and see how GPS positioning works, there would be no need to prove the earth is not flat.
"I'm using math and physics to prove the earth is flat!" ... As an astrophysicist, "Those are fightin' words!" 😂😂😂 ** I'm 💀☠️
No flat earther has any concept of physics or math.
"Think of how stupid the average person is and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
I say this quote all the time! One of my favorites!
Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one and they're frequently full of shit!
Attrib: Bill Hicks
Iam gone be a nerd here, for the love to science and objective reality: that statement is wrong... You mean the median 😂😎
Well, it can be viewed from another perspective. It's like the "half full or half empty glass".
My point is that I can counteract that statement by just saying: "but the second half is smarter!!".
Apart from that, "above average" doesn't mean "not stupid", tho. I still think the majority of the human species is just stupid af...
Which is ironic because in general it's not true that half of the values are below the average.
It scares me that there are adults, functioning members of society, people who have jobs and families, who can vote, who can drink, who can drive a car, yet can't believe physics
Why......... - just saying. Think about what is behind the belief in "Flat Earth" = "religion". So it frankly does not matter "what" the concept is being applied to. For people to believe in a theistic worldview already presupposes acceptance of "magical thinking" - in that case applied to "divine beings" and supposed miracles.
Ergo why would it therefore come as a surprise that the same assumptive beliefs are simply taken a step further to discount the entirety of our reality vis a vis the nature of our planet to cling to a "literalist" view of the world based upon ancient beliefs. If you base your worldview on claims dating to millennia ago when people would be by today's standards marginally literate then finding people who today claim the Earth is flat is simply = "more of the same". There reality begin and ends with their imaginations driven by their desire to believe what they believe. Facts and logic therefore do not apply. 🤨
Physics is not to be believed it's for understanding
Are you sure they are really functioning members of society?
And reproduce!
The natural physics of water is to seek its LEVEL.
Flat earthers: We are using physics and math to prove that earth is flat.
Math: ....
Physics: .......
Math & physics: "Why you gotta bring us into your mess?"
It's easy. To prove it's not a spinning ball. However most spinning ballers don't actually look at what flat eartgers believe. They allow others to tell them and expect a fair answer.
It's like asking a Muslim what Christians are and expecting a fair respectful answer
The spinning ball earth has a supposed curvature rate of 0.666 ft. Per mile SQUARED. Or 8 inches per mile SQUARED.
So for every mile you fly straight over the supposed sphere earth 25,000 miles in circumference, the earth must curve away from you 8 inches. So the second mile 64 inches, etc.
If you were to start flying dead straight one inch off the ground over a ball earth 25,000 miles in circumference, after 1000 miles of dead straight flying, the earth would curve 127 miles under you never lifting the nose once! 127 miles over the earth is ORBIT!! If orbit was even reality. Again orbit is only seen on tv.
Spinning ball earth is only seen on tv never in real life.
You guys never once looked at how stupid spinning ball earth claims are.
Your flying straight over a ball!! You fly straight over a ball, eventually you fly into "space". But you don't end up in space. You end up flying over a flat horizon.
Or ancestors are smarter than we are. We accept tv over reality.
@@always_trust_all_scientists Why none of the flat earthers have ever taken selfies at the edge of the earth?
Math and physics left the chat
@@always_trust_all_scientists Apart from direction, planes adjust their flight path based on altitude. So when they start to deviate, they will adjust their flight path. The earth is sooo big, it looks as if it's flat.
Since you seem to be very good at math & physics, I have a question. Can you please explain how come we can't see Big Ben from the top of the Empire State Building even if we use the most advanced lenses known to man kind?
I once agreed that the earth wasnt round but shaped like a cube. He was even more confused to even argue any more.
I used to think that the earth was flat.
Then I turned 5.
Same experience , when i turn 4 i learned that earth is not flat.
and was led by Teacher (or Mullah, Shaaman, whatever) to the spinning blue ball on a stand, where you were T-O-L-D "This is where we live"...and thus began your INDOCTRINATION...AT AGE 5. You've NEVER questioned ANYTHING after that-DID you? LOL!
@richard black No, they learned S-C-I-E-N-C-E after that. You should try that subject. It's very informative. 🙂
@@richardblack9067 flerfer spotted
Always trust jesuits right
I can’t believe this needs to be explained.
Yup, flat earthers need to understand it.
The black guy says he will not debate something he believes to be true. Interesting. Silence all dissenters. Coward.
Ya.. why is this even being debated... earth is flat
@@grandmatheglorious.6358 I don't think your name is james 112. I see it as 112 james. You going to tell me I'm wrong? Coward.
@@grandmatheglorious.6358 "The black guy?" Do you not know who Neil deGrasse Tyson is? Wake up, troglodyte.
As a wise man once said: "Flat earthers have members all over the *_GLOBEEE_* "
All * around * the globe actually..
But points for trying.. 😉
....."all around the disc ..." But what's on the bottom of it? "...turtles, all the way down."
@@scottpreston5074 on the back of an elephant.
Members as in your brother
Boring!
Flat Earther: Hey did you know 1+1=3
Normal Individual: You are wrong 1+1=2
Flat Earther: NO! 1+1 = 3 because the government controlled schools we learnt this from lied to us and everything they teach us is a lie!
Normal Individual: I will prove to you 1+1=2, here's one orange, here's another one, you put them together you have 2
Flat Earther: NO! That's an ilusion!
Normal Individual: Ok show me then, prove to me 1+1=3
Flat Earther: Math is a concept dreamt up by those who want to control us!
Normal Individual: Ok show me 1+1=3
Flat Earther: You don't understand, you have no idea what you are talking about!
Normal Individual: Show me 1+1=3
Flat Earther: There is no point! you want to be controlled, you want to live a lie! I'm done here!
The sad part is that most flat earthers are so caught up in this conspiracy, and so deep into this bet, that they won’t back down, even when they make experiments and debunk themselves, as seen on “behind the curve”. Basically a lot of them won’t give up on this even if they go up in space and look at this beautiful round planet. They’d say “nah, it’s fake”
Sad.
It's not about evidences anymore, it's about feelings, emotions. Conspiracionists want to feel special. They want so bad to feel special that being an anti-vaxxer and help spreading false information that will cause death and pain is worth it. It's the type of people who doesn't deserve any autonomy or right to decide anything.
I think it's called the sunk cost fallacy
It's like a cult at this point
Far from it, they openly challenge these people. Ndt was supposed to debate on Rogan and got cold feet
@@zakazany1945 you jumped to another topic. Are you saying doctors like the one who helped invent the mrna tech you seem to think is settled science, are actually trying to kill people for not taking the jab and speaking out against mandates?
I love how the intonation in each of their voices is that of someone that was explaining something to a kindergartener, but even a kindergartener can understand basic facts.
When you borrow from foreign languages, be careful. A "Kindergärtner" is NOT someone who attends a Kindergarten (aka a young child) but is what the profession is called that oversees the little ones. So if the US has created Kindergardener to mean the young ones ... oh well, we also have alternate facts and suchlike, why not add some more confusion ... ;)
This English word was borrowed from German in the early 19th C, having now had about 200 years of use in English.
Hence it's not been 'borrowed' as you imply.
Furthermore, while kindergartener can refer to the teacher it's extremely rare. It's common usage is the child that attends kindergarten.
i see, but globe earthers just rely on their kindergarten traumas as adults...sad really.
These vids are for “ globers”. They are speaking to you. They arent going to change flat earthers minds. They know that. The purpose of these types of vids are do keep you under wraps. Another glober decieved.
@@vincec727 I just don't get what is to be gained by deceiving the public on something so trivial, what in gods name would the motive be for such a massive conspiracy?
I love Bill Nye's expression at the beginning. It's as if he's saying, "I can't believe we're having this discussion."
isnt it a good thing to explain to each generation why we believe what we believe . i mean , most people have never been in outer space and looked at the earth from there to confirm its shape , we just believe what we are told , so the least they could do is explain in detail why we believe earth is a ball .
@@marleonetti7 absolutely! But that is all explained to kids in grade school.
Flat earthers have heard most or all of the proofs for the shape of our planet and they still reject them, usually based on religious beliefs.
@@Plant_Parenthood most flat earthers are actually not religious at all and they seem to all come from various backrounds , ages , and races . and 99 percent of religious people in the western world believe that the earth is a globe .
Yet believing all the matter in the universe came from nothing and the unfathomably complex code within the human genome wrote itself, even though the only actions available are copy and delete, is perfectly alright with you because cronies like these 3 tell you so, did you learn nothing from C19?
@@marleonetti7 every flat earthers I have talked to, if you question them long enough, come back to descriptions of "God's firmament" and the idea that our planet is flat when others are spherical because of something to do with god.
It’s ridiculous our brightest and most accomplished scientists have to explain this. It’s sad and scary.
That's just three and one of them is really a science presenter rather than an actual scientist. Explanation of the shape of the Earth is done by a few handfuls of RUclipsrs.
@@warmachineuk flatopians are conmen and simpltons just like maga.
Flat earthers: the earth is flat, do the research
Me:does the research and proves it round
Flat Earthers: that research is wrong
Hell they do their own research and its wrong.
Because "cosmic rays".
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 No, because The Goat Herder’s Guide to the Galaxy.
No, they will say yousr research is biased by your "Globe beliefes", and you have first forget and reject all you have learned before. And then do your research with this zero knowledge and your own invented science.
@@christianege4989 Correct.
Only facebook and youtube are reliable 😂
"They know. They just don't care."
- Batman
Its like they just do it to trigger tv scientists.
Imagine devoting your life to the study of science in hopes of expanding the boundaries of our knowledge, to have to argue with ancient, outdated ideas like flat Earth.
yeah, kind of depressing if you ask me.
yeah that sucks
Or religion.
And imagine spending billions of dollars/pounds/euros putting satellites in orbit... wait? Orbit - what's one of them? Anyway... so that people could have internet/gps/international travel,news... Billions! And to think the ISS is still up there floating on imaginary turtles... "No, I have a valid opinion". No you effing don't have a valid opinion. You have ill uneducated opinion. Grow up.
@@erniejudge9311 ? Who are you referring to?
I live on 18th floor in Northern Europe. My favourite thing to do is use my telescope to enjoy the view of the Pyramids of Giza from my balcony. Luckily there is no major cities with high rising buildings in the way :)
Take a photo or a video recording and post it
@@mynamemylastname7179 i cant because of air refractions and electromagnetic accelerations
@@mynamemylastname7179
You failed to understand that it was a troll...
LoL
To quote Albert Einstein when to comes to how dumb people can be: “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
A wise ancient philosopher once said: "aerth flat bae."
"I never said that", Albert Einstein.
Einstein was a known plagiarist and worked in a patent office and stole people's ideas. Look it up
You cannot argue with flat-earthers they are right! You also can't argue with round earthers because they are right as well! The 2nd dimension exists within the 3rd. Therefore it is both. Talking about this subject keeps people from seeing what is truly important!
@@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler yea ...no.
After soaking up media on this topic for a day, I have come to the conclusion that flat earthers are a religious cult, some people are getting rich from this.
Exactly. In fact, lots of times flat earther “scientists” say that we have been brainwashed, which is the literal first step in brainwashing.
Correct
@@toxicboi3768 if you can convince someone to reject advice and common sense from friends, family, and reputable sources, than you have successfully brainwashed them.
@@williamgandarillas2185 That is exactly my point
@@williamgandarillas2185 It always boggles my mind how people buy into the idea that everyone, absolutely everyone, is lying to them on something that will 100% not affect them. Like most conspiracy theories are insane already, but whether the Earth is flat or round will literally not change their life whatsoever.
Bill Nye has the same lack of patience with this topic as I do .
Every time he starts up he does that little "are we really doing this?" gesture, haha.
Bold of them to assume that flat earthers even understand how physics work, let alone any buzzwords and sayings related to scientific discoviers and phenomena.
flat earther arguments have no depth
... i will show myself out.
Very funny it made me chuckle 😂
Cute! Clever!
@@ElusiveTruth
Poincarè died in 1912 , he didn't see space travel, satellite, the hubble telescope or the hundreds of others devices we have to explore the solar system.
The lesson we learned from Copernicus, Kepler and Galileo is here very relevant. They persuaded us, against what seemed to be overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that the Earth moves. They taught us to see motion where none appears. The notion of time capsules may help us to reverse that process-to see perfect stillness as the reality behind the turbulence we experience.”
― Julian Barbour, The End of Time: The Next Revolution in Our Understanding of the Universe
Barbour was quite the philosopher, but he did believe the heliocentric model.
Coleman and Otis quotes are very similar, and are talking about the failure of the Mitcheson- Morley experiment to detect the 'eather', it did not prove the earth was stationary.
Barnett died in 1978, he didn't see the technical advances of the las 40 years.
Foucault's pendulum shows the earth is rotating.
The observation of the stars and planets shows we are moving around the sun.
@@ElusiveTruth "I have come to believe that the motion of the Earth cannot be detected by any optical experiment."- Physicist, Albert Einstein
Okay, now quote the words that come right after that. The words that come after that fake full stop that you added.
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!
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Here's one nobody ever says: Take your flat earth friend out into the snow. You make a snowball and they make a snow plate. Then you both throw your creations at full speed into the other's face. Do this as many times as is necessary.
Or maybe do it a few times past that for good measure
I love this! I'll make sure to put this tool in good use! 🤣
Problem is that flat earther don't think space is real or that the earth is moving at all. This wouldn't work for them because they do not think that the earth is a disc flying through space
The reason nobody evers says this may be that it does not work out -
even if they accept that space exists.
A disc would be fine, just as any other shape, because there is no air resistance.
Flat earthers believe the sun rotates around the earth. These people have a very low IQ.
When i encounter a flat earther, I realize immediately that they'd be unable to understand basic science and rather than stoop to their level. I just tell them they are wrong and move on. No debate.
That is probably best as far as one can not reason with irrationality. One therefore exposes it for what it is for others to recognize and learn from. Leave the debunking in detail to those versed in the science as videos like this do - unless you are versed enough to also expose via a cogent argument why the Flerfs are wrong.
Just as noted do not expect them to have a _"road to Damascus"_ moment as to ascribe to "Flat Earth" is to be deeeeep down the rabbit hole of evangelical fundamentalism. We as it happen have a term for such = _"cults."_ Enjoy your day.
i just tell them sarcastically and yeah the moon is made out of cheese aswell
It's so sad that such highly educated people need to address these simpletons, just shows you how humble these great people are !
They do this because they can't give us a real time video of the upside down people, buildings and cars. It doesn't exist. So, they pay pretend scientist to do this crap instead.
PSUEDO SCIENCE SIMP FOUND.
Why would people with truth on there side feel the need to insult and ridicule people. If they are right then why can't they prove it? Nothing said in this video proves the Earth is round. All it shows is the scientific community is scared of this topic.
Humble? They literally talked about this subject like they have personally went into space and seen the round earth for themselves. Because that is the only way to prove this. Math can prove the earth is flat just like it can prove it's round. All you have to do is change peramiters also gravity is not needed on a flat earth model. All you need is density and boyancy.
@@Eliilizz108 Well I disagree about math. It literally does prove its flat.
The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge!
- stephen Hawking
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"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know.
It's what we know for sure that just aint so."
- Mark Twain
Let me share a bit of information. I recently joined a flat earth group just to waste a bit of time at work. And oh man... I had no idea what I was getting myself into, so let me share a bit of extra things that I've personally noticed.
1. They don't understand equivocation fallacies AT ALL. Science is a religion (heard that before from creationist, no surprise) but their belief system strangely is not. I even had one guy say that "globe heads" believe in Scientology... despite the fact that Scientology and science are 2 completely different things. Even when I presented clear evidence of this, they didn't care.
2. They generally won't answer direct questions. Don't expect too much math. (unless the numbers = 666... after they adjust the numbers a bit dishonestly) If they do respond to questions, more than likely their answers will not actually address your question. For example, I asked one of them how do you tell the difference between a naturally occurring pattern in nature and intentional manipulation? They showed me a picture of the planet Pluto where they drew Pluto (Disney's dog) on the planet where they saw a pattern. They couldn't tell me other than "its common sense" as to why they would put Pluto on a dog, but when I said I see the Bat symbol in the clouds suddenly that's nature with no explanation, so they enjoy special pleading.
3. Just want to reinforce that any images you show them contrary to their belief system is fake, CGI, or photoshop, usually with no explanation given. Any picture that does fit their world view is real, because reasons. I even caught them in lies where they had images that THEY PHOTOSHOPPED CLEARLY and still they didn't even admit any wrong doing. We have google image search now, you can't just do that and get away with it.
4. The more credentials you have, the LESS trustworthy of a source you are. Pretty much, if you're some unemployed loser trying to stick it to the man with your tin foil hat equipped and a youtube account, you're automatically the authority on every aspect of science, above those who go to Satanic Freemason universities like everyone in an actual science field has.
5. Because the Vatican supports the big bang and evolution, those beliefs belong to the Vatican... because reasons.
6. They are LOADED with retarded memes of misinformation, logical fallacies, and just plainly false nonsense, and even if you refute it, they'll report that same meme 10 seconds later in another spot.
7. Bill Nye and Neil deGrass Tyson are evil.
8. No single explanation is ever provided as to why all the world's governments need to lie about the shape of the earth to accomplish anything.
9. If there is anything wrong with their models of reality, they will not address it no matter how many times you point it out. They'll only attack actual science, despite clearly not knowing or understanding any of it.
10. Even though they do not trust NASA, if someone claims to be from NASA, makes a video supporting flat earth or other conspiracies, that person suddenly has credibility despite being from an organization that has no credibility... like what?
11. No surprise but they don't understand basic logic.
12. I'd say about 90% or more are religious, but for some reason they only believe in the old testament generally. Now, despite they've never seen or tested anything in the bible, they believe it 100% based purely on faith alone.
13. There are no actual established models of the flat earth. They all claim something a little different despite none of them having any test to prove that. For example, some believe in an infinite plane, while other believe in a floating dinner plate with a dome.
14. Only trust your eyes. If you see flat when you look out at the horizon, then everything is flat. However, if I'm blind or close my eyes, oddly enough things still exist although I'm supposed to trust my eyes.
15. If your explanation is more than 3 sentences, its too long and they won't read it. Funny, because they'll spam so many memes that 3 sentences simply aren't enough to refute them. Also funny, these guys supposed did a lot of research, reading I assume, but they can't read a paragraph that directly responds to their claims because its too long... what?
Epic! I am impressed with your ethnographic approach to understand them
Sounds like you were at a Trump rally . . .
Need moar smart dust 👽
"Only trust your eyes." except when looking at objects disappearing over the horizon, the motion and size of the sun and moon, the motion of stars, the orientation of the moon in different parts of the world, the seasons, etc. etc.
Basically they are all just dishonest.
This was a good read.
I fail at relationships, at school and have no faith in myself. I really appreciate flat earthers for motivating me in life through their nonsense.