Review of my Lincoln Town Car | Why it’s such a great used car value
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
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Lincoln Town Car review. Is a Town Car reliable? Crown Vic. Grand Marquis. Panther Platform. Why buy a used car. New vs used. DIY car repair. Luxo boats.
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I have a 2003 Town Car Signature that I picked up May 2020. When I bought it the car had 125k miles on it. It now has 138k miles on it. I bought it because of a ninety mile round trip that is mostly interstate highway. I have used it as a commuter. I have used it for three trips to another state (1k round trip). It is without a doubt the absolute best road trip car I have ever owned. Can't say if it's the best road trip car ever but I can say it's absolutely awesome.
I wanted a car that was comfortable, reliable, and, given current economic climes, that I could pay cash for. I had no intention of taking on a car payment with our entire economy in a shambles and my job being uncertain. Promising a percentage of future wages when you have no guarantee you will have those future wages seemed reckless.
Having said that, I wanted to ensure that the car was good all the way around. That meant doing maintenance which was required because it was either put off by the previous owner or just a result of the vehicle being old. Above all that meant spending money on known problem areas with these cars.
First - tires all around. The old ones were dry rotted.
Then, fluids and filters. All of them got changed.
I also replaced the intake manifold and the radiator as a preventive maintenance item. The intake manifold is made of plastic and over time it will become brittle. When that happens you need to worry about cracking and leaking atop the engine, or worse, inside the engine. It can also fail catastrophically - spewing coolant everywhere and causing the engine to overheat.
The rule of thumb with the 4.6L V8 is "replace the intake about every ten years". Since the TC was 17 years old when I bought it and I had no idea if it had ever been replaced I went ahead and replaced it. While I was at it I wanted the radiator replaced as well. The cooling system is important and the radiator has quite a bit of plastic in it as well (reservoirs). The radiator that was in it when I bought it was definitely OEM.
AC: one hose and a relay.
Front end: Control arms and ball joints. It's common for those to wear out at around 125k miles. It's also common for the rubber in them to go bad over time. In the case of mine I asked the mechanic to check the front end when he had it in the air for the transmission service. The parts that went in have grease fittings. I'll never need to replace those components again. Which is good, because that repair was expensive.
Back rotors & pads.
1 coil pack.
With regard to comfort: I saw a bit of discussion on the 2003-2011 vs. the 1998-2002 vehicles. My father had a 2001. I have a 2003. Of the two, I prefer the 2003. I like the front end better despite the loss of 2" of travel. If you're not driving in really rough conditions, why would that matter? In return I get rack & pinion steering rather than recirculating ball. That's an improvement.
The seats in my 2003 are fine. Comfortable, roomy, with lumbar support and heat. The redesigned dash will accept more options for stereo upgrades, which I definitely wanted. A previous owner had removed the airbags in the back and replaced them with a spring/shock setup and it's fine.
With regard to reasons the panther platform died: CAFE is one big reason. A V8 coupled w/ a four speed transmission in a four thousand pound car is a big hit on the company CAFE standards. Also, Ford's customers were dying off - literally. Average age of a Town Car buyer (non-fleet use) in 2009 was seventy years old. In 1999 it was sixty years old. The car made no inroads at all with a younger group of buyers and those younger buyers are the future, no?
In 2009 the panther platform was considered a dinosaur that only appealed to a diminishing number of very old people who already had one and would keep it until they died or went into the nursing home. Ford had every reason to kill it and no reasons at all to keep it in production.
At the end of the day I have exactly what I wanted. A roomy, comfortable, reliable car which I should be able to drive for the next six to seven years with simple maintenance. A car which I will never have to fear a wrecker showing up to tow away if times get hard.
I've seen a lot of hard times over the decades. For reference, I've been around long enough that I drove two 1977 Ford LTDs. Those were bigger than the Town Car!
Thanks for the review, I was riding the fence on if I should buy an older TC but after reading what you did with yours I've decided to do the exact same thing. Buy it for a lower price and do the repairs myself.
@@ronaldcook3840 Glad I could help.
Two months later, all I've done since writing the review is a tire rotation and an oil change. I took it to the shop yesterday for the annual state safety inspection on my way down to Houston. Stopped at a random shop - looked like they handle common issues but not the sort of place that will be rebuilding/swapping out engines.
After the inspection was done, when the older guy who I had been dealing with (wanna say - mid 50s, like me) drove my car back up front, I asked him "what do you think? Not bad for an 18 year old model, huh?"
The guy said "Man, there's nothing wrong with this car. It's in great shape."
I highly recommend old granny grocery/church chariots.
Also do yourself a favor and pull the CarFax. The CarFax on mine showed every oil change going back to 2003. All of the previous owners had taken the car to the Ford shop to have those done. They reported to whatever databases CarFax scrapes.
Also, my father was looking at a nice one up in Arkansas. He got the VIN and the CarFax showed the car had been wrecked in 2011. Looked like the front end was rebuilt, the instrument cluster replaced with one from a lower mileage TC, and the title showed a mileage inconsistency. The guy trying to sell it to my father ten years later was touting it as a low mileage, well-maintained Lincoln Town Car.
I remember when Lincoln's Continentals and Town Cars offered the big block 460 cubic inch V8s. And when Cadillacs came with the largest engine offered in an American car, a 500 cubic inch V8. Those were the days! I miss em!
I had a friend who had a late 1970's Lincoln Mark V, that had the 460 cubic inch engine. It was a beautiful car, and it would pass everything except a gas station. LOL.
Proud owner of a 2004 ultimate edition in red.
Wonderful vehicle. It says something when Saudi Princes, mob bosses, and famous celebrities prefer these over million dollar Mercedes, Rolls Royce, etc.
Town cars may not be superior, but they are far more affordable and in many cases; far more RELIABLE.
Let the haters hate!
I have a 2002 Town Car, and the exterior color looks exactly like yours, except mine has a full black cloth diamond edition roof. The color on mine is "light parchment gold clear coat metallic."
I bought my car in 2007, and paid $11,750 for it. It had 36k miles then, now it has 110k miles. In the 14 years that I have had it, the only time it let me down was a dead battery.
I did have to replace the rear air ride suspension with a set of coil springs in 2015, which is a common problem on these cars.
In 2019, I had to replace the upper and lower ball joints, the idler arm, the front sway bar, and shock absorbers.
Another common problem on these cars is the hard plastic intake manifold that they used. So far, mine has not leaked.
You won't get rid of it because no other car will give you that ride. Like you said unless it's a Lexus or Cadillac Brougham / Fleetwood..
If you do sell it off, I recommend another town car. 2005-2011.
Ive had 5 Town Cars. 1995 (the best), 2001, another 2001, (early)2004 and ANOTHER (late)2004. The late 2004 are the way to go. 2002-early 2004s had MAJOR timing chain guide issues. I now have a 2006 Avalon. Doesnt ride even CLOSE to the Town Car :(
I sold my 2003 town car for a 2012 MKS because i wanted something newer. Needless to say i now daily drive a 2004 town car ultimate L. You always go back to the ol TC
Its actuallt 2006 to 2011 got the 4r75 transmissions. The older ones had the 4r70w that had problems thats why they switched to the 4r75s
@@tonyarc9455 Only the 2006 to 2011 lincoln town cars got the realible transmissions. Yours like mine has the 4r70w same as the crown vics. They had bad front pumps in the transmissions. 4r75s got the revised transmissions.
@@tonyarc9455 by the way wikipedia lies. They say 2002 and on but i bought a 2003 and it had the 4r70w througj alot of research i found its 2006 to 2011
I just purchased my first town car said year and wheels but with black interior and 90k miles. I plan on keeping it forever I hope
Only the 2006 to 2011 lincoln town cars got the realible transmissions. Yours like mine has the 4r70w same as the crown vics. They had bad front pumps in the transmissions. 4r75s got the revised transmissions.
You should paint it and keep it! You will not find a cheaper more reliable used car! My buddy owned a limo company and he would put 400K to 500K on these Towncars..
No one believed I got 27 on the highway with these cars! Anyhow if it has the full plastic intake manifold watch for leaks around the temp sensor and the thermostat.
If those current chips in the paint start to expand or look like they're about to rust, cover them with a thin coat of clear nail polish.
Great setting for a review video. Lookout MT in the background. That is a smart 2800.00 imho. I love the Town Car
I have a 2000 Town car with 254 Thousand miles on it i put some work into it and it's running good.
Thank u very much for reviewing this wonderful Lincoln Town Car so im wondering as per ur experience its steering is very soft or firm?
Steering in Town Cars 3rd generation is firm, rather than very soft.
Great video,U have a 2006 Lincoln town car given to me by my uncle. Wondering how easy or tough is it to get to and change the spark plugs? I need to change mine too. Thanks in advance and again wonderful video. You have a beautiful car.
That was the first time I’ve ever changed spark plugs and it took maybe 45 minutes. Also, it helps to change the ignition coils at the same time too.
As an owner of a 2006 Signature Limited Presidential (carriage roof), I would recommend the 1998 - 2002 over the later 2003 - 2011 models. Your generation has a smoother ride and more comfortable seats. When they went to the rack and pinion steering in 2003 they changed the front suspension and lost ~ 2” of wheel travel. The 2010 and 2011 deleted the rear air suspension - both of these changes lost the cloud like ride they were famous for. The 2003 and up have genuinely uncomfortable front seats with an unnatural seat back curve - a good upholstery shop can fix this. Every single year from 2004 and up saw some cheapening of the TC - it’s almost like it was sabotaged on purpose. I know that is not true, that Ford was in a weak financial period at the time of the last generation of TC and that it suffered in the process. The shame is that instead of cheapening it and forcing loyal buyers to shop elsewhere, with just a few fixes it would have been awesome
Thomas, Thanks for the advice. I have a chance to buy a very low mileage Town Car (2002 model, Jack Nicklaus Edition), how much do you think it is worth? It has 35k miles only. I like the 2003 and up look better, but now that you said the older ones have a better ride and more comfortable, I will reconsider. Thanks a lot for any info you share.
I don’t know what the market place is like in your area for used car values. How much are they asking? If you do not have a lot of experience with cars then I would recommend having a professional mechanic evaluate it for condition and what it will need in repairs, then deduct that from the full market value. Hopefully it is a non-smoker car that has been garaged. Best wishes
The price they are asking is $5,000. Superb condition, looks like new on the inside, 35,000 miles only so practically a new car, but still 19 years old in a few months.
@@jocojoco3456 You can't generally buy much of a used car for $5,000 these days, sounds like a decent deal actually. Here are the common problem on very low mileage cars that have sat unused for long periods of time: the brake fluid is shot and sometimes leaking from rotting rubber parts (there are three rubber brake line hoses). The cooling system hoses may need replacing, and usually the tires have aged out and have dry rot. So with new tires and hose replacements you should be good to go.
Exactly!! That’s why I chose this generation! Simple things like the window switches were plastic instead of chrome, most 03-11 Town Cars door pull is pealing of the end cap has popped off, and of course the ride suffered.
I have the 2001 Towncar. If it hasn't already been done...replace the timing chain guide's. They should be done at 150,000 miles.
I just bought this exact car with 103k miles. I absolutely love it. Had to do a little front end work. Control arms, tie rods etc but it’s fantastic. The other used cars in its price range are crap in my opinion.
What are the chances I could drive this car in the snow in Northwestern Pennsylvania? I"m looking at one today, but worried about the snow
It’s not the most powerful car, it has traction control and if you put winter tires on it should be fine 😊
re: "snow" = you are allowing "snow" to control a car choice? What about drunk drivers veering off in a head-on collision?
Lovely TC
Your right it is Champaign. But don't try telling the DMV that.
A clean Lincoln Town Car with cool rims is a BIG CHICK MAGNET, it says you have high standards in life.
I have a 2007 Presidential with a sun roof, which I never open, it’s the best ride I’ve ever had. I got it in 2018, had 124k miles then now I have 168k. Only real trouble I’ve had was caused by fkn squirrels eating my wires! Otherwise I just do normal maintenance like oil changes and such. Best car ever!!!
light French silk metallic paint with light parchment interior.
Most reliable car ive owned still going strong at 280000 milez while my neighbour has gone through 7 vehicles in the last 12years while ive had my only 2007 sig TC in that time frame !My neighbour now has a hybrid electric but has had problems lately with it in and out of the shop constantly.He thought my TC was garbage before but now admits he should have bought one ! Lol.
Ladies don't care much about cars. They want a guy that is fit and confident. Great car. I had one until I got ran into by a Ford F350 and a lady playing on her phone. That car saved me from serious injury I believe. I miss my 2001 Town Car. I've had luxury Lexus vehicles and Mercedes but prefer the Town Car because it floats down the road, the cops think you're 90 years old so they don't notice you and it's inexpensive to buy and maintain and gets relatively good gas mileage. Good purchase. I will buy another one if Jesus doesn't get us out of here soon.
Why is there every video I see that they talk about the horsepower it's always a different number
I got my numbers from Google; I have gotten numbers from 190-215 😂
They were. But starting in 2003 they were consolidated to 239 standard horsepower. But it makes it quiet however the close to 300lb ft of torque makes it do fine when you turn off traction control and overdrive, watch it burn rubber all day!
Town Car 1998 -2002
205 hp single exhaust 220 HP dual exhaust, high performance version end of 2002
220 hp single exhaust 235 HP dual exhaust performance version 2003 - 2011
224 hp single exhaust 239 hp dual exhaust Lack of car kill upgrades is the main reason
That "missing horse" in the "horsepower" was that mafia horse hit ... in the original Godfather movie !
My 01 town car with 133,000 miles, no check engine light...I bought it for 1,000
Lucky I got a 93 for 1,000 with 118,000 miles
Just got an 04 town car signature with only 38K miles. Amazing find. 1 owner, 85 year old dude. Showroom condition.
I'm only 18 and I might be teaching my kids to drive in this car if I treat it well
@@ultimate_cheese4694 lucky af I sold mine and got a 06 Saturn ion but hold on to it bro I wish I did
@@benjichillin5226 I plan on it 😁
@@ultimate_cheese4694 - your future kids will learn how to drive ... while growing up ... watching you.
$2800 is pretty good fair price. Sellers think they are worth more.
depends on year and milage
Buying a Lincoln Town Car ... worried about what people "think" about you?!? What would they's all "think"???
Which model
Looks like mine...executive series
The Lincoln Town Car is ALWAYS WORTH investing in like a new paint job. These cars are the last true American muscle of Luxury brands. I guarantee you in 10 years from now the car will be worth at least $15k.
Yes I would definitely paint it, totally worth it. But I put a different stereo in it tent the windows nice and dark; I would be very happy to have one of these.
Not bad at all. I uploaded a review of mine as well.
It would have been nice if the 5.4 truck engine were offered, for better power and torque. Very nice and at the end of production, the last of its kind!
It doesnt really need a bigger engine, the 4.6 scoots
@@sterrshow5016
It's a 4.6-liter V8, but it only produces 220 horsepower, which is small compared to the size of a town car. You need an extra 80 horsepower, a 5-speed automatic gearbox, and 3:55 rear axle to get this massive boat moving.
@@jehadhjaya2767 It goes 0-60 in 8.9 seconds and has a 4 speed with an extra overdrive gear, ithat sounds just fine to me
@@sterrshow5016
Yes, but I've seen many town cars do 0-60mph in 7.3 seconds. I think it comes with a 3.27 rear axle and a dual exhaust, so it's much faster than the regular version, which has a single exhaust and 15 hp less than the dual exhaust.
Buy a 2006 to 2011 they came with the updated transmissiom the 4r75r instead of the 4r70w used in the crown vics that are known to have problems with the front pumps in the transmissions. Took me way to much research to find that out. I bought a 2001 then found some info on this on wikipedia but it was lies told me that 2002 and up got the 4r75w so i bought a 2003 still have both of them.up for sale. Found out that had the 4r70w. Then i found the real info of the trannys geting the update on these and mercury grand marquis possibly all crown vis but might be just the police cars in 2006 and up. And checked with alot of people on facebook market place with them checking in there owners manuals for me and yea seems to be true 2006 and up cars got the updated transmission the 4r75w only way to find out that i know of is in the owmers manual itll say what transmission it has.
Town Cars have gotten pricey recently