Removing a homeowner’s attempted repair on a leaking copper waterline and repairing it properly for them. #plumbing #repair #leak #remodel #trending #fyp
Excellent job!! Your sweat joints look amazing. Looks like a good choice to me as it saved the customer $. The existing copper underground is probably ok for now, so no worries. I had something similar in assembly last winter and the customer was cold in their basement. I found a spot in the hot water central heating system that was apparently damaged and was repaired with 2 straight stops and a dishwasher braided SS supply tube. Apparently they didn't realize that after some time the rubber hose inside the braided SS supply tube will swell up due to the high temperature of the boiler system and any chemicals added. The hose had almost zero flow through it and the hot water couldn't circulate. I removed the stops and installed new copper tubing as they should have done the first time....😂🤔🙄
When a 1/2” copper line is bent and deformed and I need to get a fitting on there what’s the best way to form it back to a perfect circle, is it channel locks? Or is there another secret method ?
I agree with the reround tools is the best option if you can work them without impacting the tubing. Otherwise, we use a straight jaw adjustable wrench (Cresent) if the tubing is only slightly out of round. Just adjust the wrench on known round tubing then slowly work the wrench around the deformed tubing until a fitting will slide on. Hope this help. 😊
I use the flaring tool pipe jaws. I put it around the pipe where it isnt deformed and spin it up the pipe little by little. Plus it has holes for 1/4 - 3/4
Nice repair with what you had to work with. Overhead is better....if a guy is smart enough to keep it from freezing in the attic space. Hint, wrapping the pipe is a fail.
We never give the customer option 2. If a line is busted or destroyed we go overhead every time. It's just a safety precaution and I don't want my insurance or my plumbers insurance getting used when it can be avoided.
your repair looks awesome compared against the DIY work lol. maaan that is some beat up copper. if it was me, i would have rerouted. this is just asking for trouble. the customer will come to regret this decision again in a few winters.
Copper alone in concrete without an insulator will eventually have pin holes from the acidic concrete when the pipe sweats. Would have gone overhead if there was no insulator
I think, whenever a professional tells me 'no warranty, no guarantee' I should accept their professional judgment. However, we go down that road with customers all the time. I'm not as nice - I flat out say 'fire risk, won't do it' and that's the end of that. Sometimes, the customer is foolish enough to hire an unethical competitor but, usually, they listen.
I ran into that at work about a year ago. I was a maintenance worker at an indoor farm. We would use maybe 15 to 20 thousand gallons of city water per day. About five years earlier, a charcoal filter and water softener were added. Since it was a commercial building, the city water pressure was about 95 psi and the water had a lot of grit we needed to filter out before using it. The constant flow through the copper pipes, combined with the humidity from all the plants growing in the building meant the water pipes were always covered in condensation. The copper was green. Corrosion, high pressure, high flow, and unfiltered water eroded the pipe paper thin in half a decade. The sections from the water softener to the charcoal filter to the 2500 gallon storage tank are now all PEX. We had to store up softened city water because the RO system could fill the 5000 gallon RO tank faster than the water softener could make soft water.
That's important to understand A license plumber . Will understand the Home owners d I y . Which means any plumber will say.There will not be a warranty on what they fix . Because the home owner showed that they have a track record of messing things up . For me the dead give away in shark Bite🤣
It looks like they didn't even insulate the copper pipe in the concrete 😕 😳 Yeesh like i thought that would be common sense, but then again ppl dont care if you can't see it 🤔 SMH
What a mess, copper in the concrete without a sleeve, never good, you did great. I would never start something like that. The line is pitted and ready to sleep water. Should be totally replaced with new PEX under the concrete like it should be.
Your work is okay the old work is shady as hell. I wouldn't trust it to last 5 years.. it's almost amazing that once you turn the water back on it didn't start leaking somewhere else. I've seen that too many times.
It will fail again, due to the copper not being sleeved in the concrete. The owner should have listened to you and run new lines overhead. Still, good work.
That wasnt too much solder? Seemed like the last one he used like 2" and it looks like a 1/2" pipe. I was always told to use around the pipe diameter amount
Says it wasn't done by a license contractor and then. Mentions the fact that it's because there were shark bites laying everywhere..... Every contractor I know uses those now.
In Texas (legally) you need a licensed plumber to do any plumbing unless it’s your own home that you are working on or it’s a maintenance man for an apartment, hotel, etc.
You should know if that existing pipe is going to hold and if you even thought it was banged up enough not to work you should have said so and offerd to chip uo a little more concrete so it wouldn't have been all banged up or the next guy will be complaining about your work like you 😊
A licensed plumber did my remodel… cussed him weekly for ten years… then I ran across his childhood story, that made national headlines, & figured I could bear all these minor inconveniences.
I think, you can't fix dumb people. It only takes 1 microscopic dot of weakness in the copper pipe. They are probably doing a remodel to sell it. So if it breaks in a year, it isn’t my problem.
Concrete doesn't corrode copper or all the Latin America homes will be damaged at this moment, what could happen is in some sismeic or sirt of movement the concrete will snap the copper
The floating stud is impressive.
Bluetooth I believe
It's not floating it's being held by the drain line. Handyman special 😂
Your repair looks really great. However, option two was a good choice.
Copper in direct contact with the concrete floor there’s always a disaster waiting to happen
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Well said
'Contact'=poured in...
Not my recommendation...
Excellent job!!
Your sweat joints look amazing.
Looks like a good choice to me as it saved the customer $. The existing copper underground is probably ok for now, so no worries.
I had something similar in assembly last winter and the customer was cold in their basement. I found a spot in the hot water central heating system that was apparently damaged and was repaired with 2 straight stops and a dishwasher braided SS supply tube. Apparently they didn't realize that after some time the rubber hose inside the braided SS supply tube will swell up due to the high temperature of the boiler system and any chemicals added. The hose had almost zero flow through it and the hot water couldn't circulate. I removed the stops and installed new copper tubing as they should have done the first time....😂🤔🙄
Handy man always make us look good
I would always build a home on a crawl space; never a slab.
I can comprehend your concerns, but great job in trying to clean up another's mistake. 😊
28 year plumber in the house. You did everything right!!!
Solid repair by you and should last a long time
The framing wasn't done by a professional either.
Solid work there sir.
Thank you!
When a 1/2” copper line is bent and deformed and I need to get a fitting on there what’s the best way to form it back to a perfect circle, is it channel locks? Or is there another secret method ?
My inside/outside pipe reamer seems to do the trick. Get a small that just does 1/2 and 3/4 if you can find it.
They sell copper resizing tools to do that
I agree with the reround tools is the best option if you can work them without impacting the tubing. Otherwise, we use a straight jaw adjustable wrench (Cresent) if the tubing is only slightly out of round.
Just adjust the wrench on known round tubing then slowly work the wrench around the deformed tubing until a fitting will slide on.
Hope this help. 😊
I use the flaring tool pipe jaws. I put it around the pipe where it isnt deformed and spin it up the pipe little by little. Plus it has holes for 1/4 - 3/4
Nice repair job. In the 1960s they used soft roll copper for gas in Pleasanton cal. Any new appliance and the entire gas line has to be replaced.
Yes
Good job 👏 👍 👌
Nice repair with what you had to work with. Overhead is better....if a guy is smart enough to keep it from freezing in the attic space. Hint, wrapping the pipe is a fail.
We never give the customer option 2. If a line is busted or destroyed we go overhead every time. It's just a safety precaution and I don't want my insurance or my plumbers insurance getting used when it can be avoided.
Giving a customer the cheaper option is what they will always choose, then blame you when it fails.
I tend to agree.
@@amadafakathat's why you tell them no insurance and that you basically won't admit to ever doing it
@lorenzoluna2431 no insurance and cash only and you're erasing your Google maps history. That usually impresses on them the need for option 1. 🤣
You just write exactly what you did and why it's not covered under warranty or guaranteed on the invoice and have them sign for it
Nice!
using a pair of 90* to make a swingjoint and it will ensure it lines up. i imagine you had to bend that copper alittle to get the 45* to line up right
Nice job
Clean soldering 👌
Thank you
That copper piping in particular is an absolute nightmare
Right I won't touch copper piping anymore nope no thank you
@@peachyclean93 Yeah, cuz you're not a real plumber, LOL
Thank you for soldering.
your repair looks awesome compared against the DIY work lol. maaan that is some beat up copper.
if it was me, i would have rerouted. this is just asking for trouble. the customer will come to regret this decision again in a few winters.
Copper alone in concrete without an insulator will eventually have pin holes from the acidic concrete when the pipe sweats. Would have gone overhead if there was no insulator
Finally somebody that knows what they're talking about
I would shape some L soft copper and braze it.
Clean work
Thank you
Peole shouldn't be so afraid of rerouting. Always a better option.
Decent brother
Huh, guess its fairly common for nails not to leak emidiatly. Happened to me first day on the jod pulling base for a remodel.
The cement would probably eat through the copper pipe in time.
Easy $$$ if u know how to do the job... great job repair
What in the actual.... Does that copper not even have plastic around it? That'll corrode out soon enough. ... 🤦
Absolutely hate piping in concrete
I think, whenever a professional tells me 'no warranty, no guarantee' I should accept their professional judgment.
However, we go down that road with customers all the time. I'm not as nice - I flat out say 'fire risk, won't do it' and that's the end of that. Sometimes, the customer is foolish enough to hire an unethical competitor but, usually, they listen.
I’ve done a ton of it and it gets bad when the copper pipe is paper thin on one side from age and all green and you have to work with it
I ran into that at work about a year ago. I was a maintenance worker at an indoor farm. We would use maybe 15 to 20 thousand gallons of city water per day. About five years earlier, a charcoal filter and water softener were added.
Since it was a commercial building, the city water pressure was about 95 psi and the water had a lot of grit we needed to filter out before using it.
The constant flow through the copper pipes, combined with the humidity from all the plants growing in the building meant the water pipes were always covered in condensation. The copper was green.
Corrosion, high pressure, high flow, and unfiltered water eroded the pipe paper thin in half a decade.
The sections from the water softener to the charcoal filter to the 2500 gallon storage tank are now all PEX. We had to store up softened city water because the RO system could fill the 5000 gallon RO tank faster than the water softener could make soft water.
I rarely see water lines that go underground here 😁😁
Oh what a brutal build you had to work on.
Just curious what you charged the customer for this job, if you don't mind?
Taillight warranty
Why not show you bending the copper in the floor to get the right angle lol! All good my man. I’d do the same
That's important to understand A license plumber . Will understand the Home owners d I y . Which means any plumber will say.There will not be a warranty on what they fix .
Because the home owner showed that they have a track record of messing things up .
For me the dead give away in shark Bite🤣
Of course the other guy was licenced. There's a lot of bad tradies out there
True
How'd you test the water pressure?
It seems like a temporary repair while the plumber shows up.
Sometimes u gotta do shady sketchy work, for cash, and no warranty! I would pay just to go for the quick fix.👍
How many times do they remove the vanity and baseboards?
Why the fuck is there a stud there if it doesn't even touch a baseplate, or at least the fucking floor. Like holy shit dude
I think they cut it out when trying to do their repair 😅 hopefully not load bearing.
That's them new fancy Bluetooth studs.
@@Molon_Labe1776😂😂😂
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The concrete's gonna eat away that copper pipe
Yes it will
It looks like they didn't even insulate the copper pipe in the concrete 😕 😳 Yeesh like i thought that would be common sense, but then again ppl dont care if you can't see it 🤔 SMH
Just because they’re certified, doesn’t mean their work is always good. Always have to do your own research as well.
Yea i ripped my copper lines out of the floor
What a mess, copper in the concrete without a sleeve, never good, you did great. I would never start something like that. The line is pitted and ready to sleep water. Should be totally replaced with new PEX under the concrete like it should be.
Your work is okay the old work is shady as hell. I wouldn't trust it to last 5 years.. it's almost amazing that once you turn the water back on it didn't start leaking somewhere else. I've seen that too many times.
It will fail again, due to the copper not being sleeved in the concrete. The owner should have listened to you and run new lines overhead. Still, good work.
ive seen licensed plumbers who cant sweat copper...I don't think this has anything to do with "licensed" or not.
just stupid people.
ive never used that bendable copper before?
What does having a license have to do with shity or good work?
Why I don't like slab foundations.
I don't know who in the right mind would ever put copper in concrete definitely not a good idea now PEX I would feel comfortable with
That originally piping gives me a heart attack, what the fuck was that?
wont the concrete eat away the copper?
Yes. 100%. It should have been sleeved.
Who thought: “you know what let’s lay the piping down and then pour concrete over it.” That’s brilliant Bob. I mean come on so stupid.
Having license don't deter the outcome of the job it just permit you To
Get a repipe .. that’s it
Copper in concrete - good one.
That whole pipe will be a sieve.
Copper will not last in concrete
Who in the heck put the piping in the slab...
Hopefully is gives out so you can go back and charge more
I ❤ sharkbite
Looks like a hot and cold feed someone added in the past and never deleted so if that's the case you just soldered a hot line to a cold line ???
That wasnt too much solder? Seemed like the last one he used like 2" and it looks like a 1/2" pipe. I was always told to use around the pipe diameter amount
With the pipe in the condition that it was in I wasn’t going to take chances
I would of went with option 3 run a water line from one valve to the other valve
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why is there cement in contact with the copper pipe
Options saves your ass
Flipper
Lol smh I just did a big plumbing job today u don't have to have license to do plumbing 😅😢good day
Why the hell would anyone run copper pipe DIRECTLY INSIDE A CONCRETE SLAB?!?!
No idea. Should have been sleeved,
Bro why are acting like sharkbite is sub-standard . I agree that copper professional installed is superior. Pex is my personal preference for now.
They went with the cheapest option which means they probably went with the cheap guy previously which explains the shit work
Where is the dov?
Why so much copper pipe in concrete? Bad idea
Wtf kind of copper pipe comes up from concrete floor?
What a fuster cluck
Says it wasn't done by a license contractor and then. Mentions the fact that it's because there were shark bites laying everywhere..... Every contractor I know uses those now.
The key word in that sentence is “contractor”
corrosion for surw
Because a "license" means good work lolol.. some of themmost skilled people dont have government bribes aka license lol
But 😂 a licensed guy chose to put it in concrete
you mean to tell me you need an licensed plumber to do that pfft
In Texas (legally) you need a licensed plumber to do any plumbing unless it’s your own home that you are working on or it’s a maintenance man for an apartment, hotel, etc.
You can only do your best on what you’re being paid for man . Good job 👍
Old guy showed me ball up some bread to stop water dripping. It worked. What you think?
It all so clogs up in screens. In a pinch it might work. Best is an open port ball valve and jet sweats.
You should know if that existing pipe is going to hold and if you even thought it was banged up enough not to work you should have said so and offerd to chip uo a little more concrete so it wouldn't have been all banged up or the next guy will be complaining about your work like you 😊
I provided an option to reroute the line completely and they chose this route.
@theplumbersplunger like i said you should know because if you rerouted it it still would have leaked where you capped if it was bad
A licensed plumber did my remodel… cussed him weekly for ten years… then I ran across his childhood story, that made national headlines, & figured I could bear all these minor inconveniences.
Wht was it ?
I think, you can't fix dumb people. It only takes 1 microscopic dot of weakness in the copper pipe. They are probably doing a remodel to sell it. So if it breaks in a year, it isn’t my problem.
I wouldn't of touched it some jobs u just pass up
Americans plumbing is so far behind soft solder is weak copper should be silver soldered
A child could of done a better job. Meth is a hellava drug.
Concrete doesn't corrode copper or all the Latin America homes will be damaged at this moment, what could happen is in some sismeic or sirt of movement the concrete will snap the copper
It's not whenever it's when learn how to talk
Appreciate the view and comment👌🏼