The WORST Mistake When Soldering Copper Pipe (Not Deburring) | GOT2LEARN

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  • Here's why deburring your pipes is so important! (3D animation)
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  • @thecripplingestofdepressio2686
    @thecripplingestofdepressio2686 3 года назад +306

    I guess youtube recommended decided it was time for me to learn something.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад +12

      Always time for learning ;)

    • @postingid3214
      @postingid3214 3 года назад +4

      Great comment. Same thing happened to me. It was magically suggested on the side panel. The producer of this video did an outstanding job explaining things. I'm 53-years-old and have done some DIY plumbing. This video answered some questions that I've had and some that I haven't even thought of. Again, great job to Got2Learn!! Thank you.

    • @Lord_Of_The_Muta_Crackhouse
      @Lord_Of_The_Muta_Crackhouse 3 года назад

      Yeah for real 😂

    • @oscarcalderonbarquero5755
      @oscarcalderonbarquero5755 3 года назад

      To see something actually productive 😂

    • @sniperdragon3345
      @sniperdragon3345 3 года назад +1

      Yea sure, why not 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @thomasmeyer5004
    @thomasmeyer5004 4 года назад +73

    While I have always included deburring , one great incentive for everyone to follow a rule, is understanding why it is necessary, nice illustration Got2Learn

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +1

      Thank you very much Thomas!

  • @doublej5171
    @doublej5171 3 года назад +102

    I’m a plumber but it’s been two and half years that I haven’t been able to do any work due to being paralyzed from the waist down. Watching this video makes me miss it even more. I’m ready to get healed and get back out there!

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад +8

      Hope for the best for you, just be careful!

    • @doublej5171
      @doublej5171 3 года назад +5

      @@Got2Learn definitely and thank you very much. For now I’ll watch your videos and feel like I’m out there working.

    • @postingid3214
      @postingid3214 3 года назад +10

      Double J, I'm just a random dude on the internet, but your comment makes me want to wish you the best. I hope you heal up quickly and get back to doing things that you're not able to do right now. Always throw positive energy out into the universe and it will answer in kind. Best of luck to you!

    • @doublej5171
      @doublej5171 3 года назад +7

      @@postingid3214 thank you very much for your kind and uplifting words! I really appreciate it! It’s been a rough time so far and I don’t know how much longer it will be or if I’ll ever get back to normal. I’m keeping my spirits up though and hoping/working to get back to walking. Thanks again and wish the best of luck to you as well my friend!

    • @RingingResonance
      @RingingResonance 3 года назад +2

      @@doublej5171 May I ask, what happened?

  • @johnkrim8377
    @johnkrim8377 4 года назад +110

    When I started my plumbing training 61 years ago, one of the first things we learned was iron pipe work. There are what's known as the 5 steps for iron pipe. Measure, mark, cut, ream ( DEBUR ) , thread. 55 year retired plumber

    • @BalgaBear
      @BalgaBear 3 года назад +3

      You've been retired for 55 years!? DAM BOI

    • @bennorwood5181
      @bennorwood5181 2 года назад

      Sounds like you didn’t work very long because I doubt you are I’ve 100 years old

    • @puyopop3085
      @puyopop3085 2 года назад +1

      @@BalgaBear i assume he means he was a plumber for 55 years. And is currently retired.

    • @kceros
      @kceros 2 года назад

      Wait, you only worked 14 years?

    • @puyopop3085
      @puyopop3085 2 года назад +2

      @@kceros I started as an electrician at 18, im 31 now and so I've been working for 13 years and I still have a long time to put in... so I dont get what you're saying.

  • @G5Hohn
    @G5Hohn 3 года назад +46

    The closeups and demonstrations on these Got2learn plumbing videos is as good as it gets

  • @RPRosen-ki2fk
    @RPRosen-ki2fk 4 года назад +16

    I love how travel that fine line of being totally clear and simple, without ... dumbing thing down.

  • @eazyrat
    @eazyrat 4 года назад +18

    Dude, the editing in these videos is awesome. I can actually pay attention and listen the whole way without losing interest. Thanks. Make more please!

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      I appreciate you watching my videos!! Thank you

    • @Layarion
      @Layarion 4 года назад +1

      @@Got2Learn what program do you use for the visual aids? like of the waterflow in the metal pipe.

  • @NightmareBlade10
    @NightmareBlade10 2 года назад +6

    I'm not a plumber, but I do love how you explained this scientifically and used a turbulence model to explain why it's important to deburr pipes. I learned a lot in this video, so thanks!

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  2 года назад +1

      Glad it was helpful!!!

  • @pattognozzi
    @pattognozzi 4 года назад +16

    Loved seeing the water turbulence graphics and the clear plastic pipe connections. Especially the example showing the glue being pushed up to the front.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +2

      Yes, those were the most important aspects I needed to show, thank you so much Patrick T ;)

    • @maradona-xf4mc
      @maradona-xf4mc 4 года назад

      Can you please guide me how to send a school or community college for plumbing so I can get training for a month or two?

  • @treeguyable
    @treeguyable 3 года назад +16

    Just a homeowner, but re did a lot of plumbing on my 3 houses. I use the cone type inner/ outer deburrer. Plumbing is not something I care to re visit. Doesn't take much longer at all to do it right.

  • @danmidtdal4358
    @danmidtdal4358 2 года назад +2

    I worked for a plumber friend for a day doing some copper piping. He saw me deburing the inside of copper pipe and said he had never heard of that before. Glad to know I was right in the first place, thanks.

  • @1200sbeemer
    @1200sbeemer 3 года назад +8

    42+ year plumber here and I couldn’t agree more. Great explanation.
    I just repaired a pinhole in a 3/4”copper pipe (type L) in a wall behind a water heater last week because of this.

  • @grselectronicshobbytutoring
    @grselectronicshobbytutoring 3 года назад +4

    Basic simple in-depth information for all the plumber to know to enhance their quality of work.👍❤️

  • @codymoncrief8478
    @codymoncrief8478 4 года назад +54

    If you flip a pencil reamer 180, you can use it on the outside of pipe. Held correctly, the little bump on the tip of the blade actually rides on the end of the pipe and allows you to ream the outside equally well as the inside.

    • @johnbull5394
      @johnbull5394 3 года назад +1

      What do you mean flip it 180º? This sounds like a great tip, but I'm haing trouble following you. Do you mean reverse the direction of travel? I tend to use mine clockwise around the bore, are you suggesting to use it anti-clockwise on the outside?

    • @bennyd8471
      @bennyd8471 3 года назад

      Have you actually tried it? Damn near impossible! Not for deburring od anyways, the cutter geometry isn't meant for it.

    • @johnbull5394
      @johnbull5394 3 года назад

      @@bennyd8471 I've tried, but not persevered. Not currently in possession of one else I'd try again.
      @Cody Moncrief Have you tried this with success, personally?

    • @kinzieconrad105
      @kinzieconrad105 3 года назад +2

      Pulls out a knife and gets it done. More often than not it’s what you have on hand!

    • @johnbull5394
      @johnbull5394 3 года назад +2

      @@kinzieconrad105 But when you're a professional, learning the quickest and easiest ways mean you get the job done faster and the customers are happier. And you always have the correct tools to hand if you're organised. For DIY, a knife is fine and does a good job.

  • @tedspens
    @tedspens 4 года назад +37

    I always deburr only because I was taught that the burr will restrict flow. I never knew about the turbulence causing pinhole leaks.

    • @plaid11
      @plaid11 3 года назад +4

      Yep, that’s the main downside to copper pipes. Even a little piece of sand that gets stuck somewhere will cause pitting that leads to the pin holes. That’s also why it’s not a good idea to use copper pipes for any kind of drain piping. As long as there’s constant flow, copper pipes can last as long as any house.

    • @bernardkinsky1637
      @bernardkinsky1637 3 года назад +3

      I learned that at Caterpillar as a apprentice 1978

  • @fiolds350
    @fiolds350 4 года назад +32

    I was a union plumber steamfitter. And this is 100% accurate.

  • @harrytinker2328
    @harrytinker2328 4 года назад +8

    The presence of excellence is usually found in the details!

  • @Drunkmex319
    @Drunkmex319 3 года назад +3

    You are absolutely correct, deburring is necessary for any project with a long lifespan. In a pinch, and for short term projects, a pocket knife can suffice.

  • @carneeki
    @carneeki 3 года назад +7

    Nice animations and close ups! As a machinist, we deburr almost everything out of habit for our own safety so we don't cut ourselves while handling parts between setups (and also so a bur doesn't skew the work in a setup). All round best practice, thanks for sharing :)

  • @newkingd0m
    @newkingd0m 2 года назад +2

    This is literally the reason I always deburred and reamed all my pipes as well and I knew I was right. Glad to see others think so as well.

  • @tonyhemingway7980
    @tonyhemingway7980 4 года назад +8

    Thank you, for adding the plastic pipe section. Another thing that, some, people don't realize is that plastic pipe needs to be cleaned before you glue it. It's just my preference, but I like to use cleaner, rather than primer, because it's easier to see that the pipe has been thoroughly cleaned. I have had people tell me that new plastic doesn't need cleaning and I've, also, seen their fittings leak.

    • @xenuno
      @xenuno 3 года назад

      Silicone seal, applied in same manner (both pipe and socket) as cement, works well for decently supported non pressure pipe. Still need to rough up both surfaces but joint is quite strong.

    • @tomrogers9467
      @tomrogers9467 3 года назад

      @@xenuno I’ve used silicone on TEMPORARY drain lines. Works fine and easier to strip and re-use. The silicone really doesn’t bond to the plastic, acts more as a gasket. Would never consider using on a pressure line or for a permanent install.

    • @xenuno
      @xenuno 3 года назад

      @@tomrogers9467Right .. which is why I said "decently supported non pressure pipe". If roughed up it bonds better than you think.

  • @ilikewaffles3689
    @ilikewaffles3689 2 года назад +5

    As an engineer, I imagined it was because of turbulence and flow losses but I never imagined pinhole corrosion was a problem. Thank you!

    • @TimeSurfer206
      @TimeSurfer206 Год назад

      Copper is a lot softer than we think. Brass isn't that much better.
      It IS better, but...

  • @joeysane416
    @joeysane416 3 года назад +37

    I'm not a plumber by trade but I do alot of plumbing from time to time, when I was taught how to sweat copper, the old guy said you never ever sweat pipe without deburring! Pride and craftsmanship is a rare thing these days

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад +1

      🙏🙏🙏

    • @joeysane416
      @joeysane416 3 года назад +3

      @Deon Denis totally agree, whenever I walk into a newly remodeled restaurant or a new one, the tiles are always crooked and uneven, I've yet to see caulking done properly, trim work is horrible, it's just sad that things are like that now

    • @robertgarrett7007
      @robertgarrett7007 3 года назад +2

      I’m betting the word “Craftsmanship” will be removed from the dictionary within 20 years because it will be unheard of.

    • @buzzsaw301
      @buzzsaw301 3 года назад

      When I first got into the trades over 20yrs ago, i knew this old drunk plumber, he deburred every pipe. That guy was drunk when by the time he got to work and sipped on beer all day at work, but he was a great plumber

    • @joeysane416
      @joeysane416 3 года назад

      @@buzzsaw301 yea that's how alot of them old timers were back in the day, I've worked with quite a few, drank through out the day but took work very serious as hard to believe as that is, they took pride in what they did, also they could get away with drinking because things were different back then, you didn't have to tie off and wear a hard hat just to fart like you do today

  • @sziltner
    @sziltner 4 года назад +6

    This video needs to be sent to a bunch of the RUclips video plumbers that never deburr their copper cuts. And you know who you are plumbers and now your customers will be watching!

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +1

      Absolute must hehe!

  • @Kadranos
    @Kadranos 3 года назад +3

    In home appliance repair we tend to deburr with sandpaper when working on sealed systems. Sandpaper tends to take most of the particles with it, which helps keeps them from getting in and clogging the capillary tube.

  • @SantaNMS
    @SantaNMS 4 года назад +7

    Thank you for this video, GTL! I like your teaching style! You are very thorough, kind and patient in your approach!

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      That's so kind of you, thank you so much Steve, your the best!

  • @GremlinsVillage
    @GremlinsVillage 4 года назад +1

    Excellent presentation. Not a plumber but found out the whys of reaming all pipe. I use Shark Bite fittings whenever possible and now understand why it's critical to debur. Thanks

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      You are most welcome, please share this video if you can, thanks! :)

  • @robpet4424
    @robpet4424 4 года назад +2

    Best plumbing tips channel on RUclips !

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Thank you so much Robert, I really appreciate it, share if you can, it helps so much!

  • @jtbtabimono
    @jtbtabimono 4 года назад +12

    Thank you for another excellent presentation.
    Important subject which doesn't get discussed enough, which you've covered it extremely well. Not only the methods and consequences but also tips on tools and their usage were very helpful.
    Thank you so much once again, you've done another great deed to the rest of the world!

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +1

      Awesome comment, thank you so much !!!

  • @abuanihas3pazg149
    @abuanihas3pazg149 3 года назад +3

    This is why I love this channel shows great visuals,
    Best wishes for all in these troubled times. Take care.

  • @ScottWConvid19
    @ScottWConvid19 2 года назад +1

    I was taught to deburr the pipe. I only knew that it was the best way to mate the pipe to the fittings and never understood why the inside of the pipe needed it also. I didn't know that excess solder could cause erosive corrosion either. Thanks. I just found your channel and appreciate your work

  • @tunafish3216
    @tunafish3216 4 года назад +29

    I’m a retired machinist deburring was my life very important.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +2

      Great to hear some good, real feedback, thanks Tuna fish!!

    • @tunafish3216
      @tunafish3216 4 года назад +1

      Thanks

    • @ajwilson605
      @ajwilson605 3 года назад +5

      Walking through the shop you could tell the guy who didn't deburr his parts...by the band-aids on multiple fingers.....

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @jasonsmith6408
    @jasonsmith6408 4 года назад +3

    I have done many service calls of pinholes near a fitting. After running black iron for hydronics and fire protection I always deburred. It was easy on the 300 and it just became a good habit.

  • @1diggitech
    @1diggitech 4 года назад +5

    Yes learned the hard way didn't debur and one of the burrs after soldering and the shut off valves had a plastic ball (home depot shut off vs actual plumbing shop valve with a steel ball) put a hole in the ball water damaged a brand new rehab, in the middle of the winter valve failed due to my mistake and it cost me, alot.Good info.👍

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +2

      Ouchhhh...that sucks.

  • @HighlanderNorth1
    @HighlanderNorth1 4 года назад +1

    Great information. I'm no plumber, but I decided to take on the task of replacing poorly placed pipes leading up into my kitchen sink from the basement below, and running hot and cold water pipes about 10 feet over to a sink that had been installed in the basement by previous owners, who had never gotten around to actually doing it.
    I decided to use a copper-to-PVC adapter, and to do the new plumbing in PVC. I bought a DIY manual and asked advice. I was told that, should I eventually sell the house, the home inspectors would specifically look for purple PVC primer on all the joints, and may fail it if it wasn't there, despite the fact that modern PVC cement actually precluded the need for the purple primer. So I made sure to slop on the purple stuff before cementing everything together, so that it would be VERY easy to see, just in case! I lived there for 6 more years, and never had any leaks or problems with my first-ever plumbing job...

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Good job bud, yeah...a lot of inspectors have that as a requirement or they don't let it pass.

    • @HighlanderNorth1
      @HighlanderNorth1 4 года назад +1

      @@Got2Learn Thanks. That was the quickest response I've ever gotten to a post! There were a few copper pipe joints I had to solder before adapting them to PVC the rest of the way, and I remember being impressed by what I guess would be referred to as the "capillary action" of how the solder was automatically "sucked" into and throughout the joint, requiring almost no effort from me...

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Yes capillary action always impressed me, even to this day, it's such a cool phenomenon. I am glad you were able to get it done man ;)

  • @dariuskohler251
    @dariuskohler251 3 года назад +1

    I only watched soldering videos to change my guitar pickups, now youtube decided that i shall install new pipes for my bathroom. I can't argue with that.

  • @ralanham76
    @ralanham76 4 года назад +13

    I almost never do plumbing, but I will remember this

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Yes of course, share it with your friends too cuz it's really important.

  • @mikehickey420
    @mikehickey420 4 года назад +6

    this video is very well made, just learning how to do some simple plumbing and i see people ignoring this simple step all the time!

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Yes, it's a very frequent mistake unfortunately.

  • @toastydevil
    @toastydevil 2 года назад +1

    Yes, this video clarified to me, a 16 year old highschool student who never wants to do plumbing, why this is very important, thank you

  • @etprecisionmachine2379
    @etprecisionmachine2379 4 года назад +1

    Thank You, Thank You, Thank You.,
    I am a machinist so I deal with deburring parts every day. I also have to deal with hydraulic systems, mostly the repair of them after somebody with no clue has already messed things up. Plumbing for water is no different. Free flow is very important for the reasons you show in your video. Whenever I plumb something I make sure there will be nothing to negatively affect the flow. Burrs and excess solder cause all sorts of problems and conscientious plumbers will not leave burrs on pipe cuts, will not use too much solder, and will clean joints of flux after soldering.
    Eric

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Very well said, thanks eric!

  • @TwinShards
    @TwinShards 3 года назад +3

    I've alway grind the outside edge (deburr) to make it easy to insert but only limed away the inside lip made by my cuts, never made any deep "correct" deburr
    I didn't know this could have this much of an impact. Very informative channel! :)
    I learned a lot in a short time.

  • @RadioactiveCereal
    @RadioactiveCereal 4 года назад +7

    Awesome video, it really demonstrates how important it is. I imagine that for a push connect fitting for water filter or sharkbite this is absolutely imperative, no matter if copper or plastic.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +1

      Exactly!!

    • @smarshall110988
      @smarshall110988 4 года назад +1

      The difference it really makes is minuscule

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      It's more of a long term thing.

  • @borealmat1889
    @borealmat1889 4 года назад +2

    it's amazing how detailed your videos are made, thanks dude

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Thank you VERY much man, really appreciate it!!!

  • @ksoiha
    @ksoiha 3 года назад +1

    I know nothing about plumbing but it looks like RUclips decided it was time for me to learn about deburring. It was interesting. Thanks!

  • @enriquecastellon6524
    @enriquecastellon6524 4 года назад +9

    This was all explained to me by an in house engineer at work 20 years ago. Just like this.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +1

      Awesome man, thanks Enrique!

  • @hussssshie
    @hussssshie 4 года назад +39

    Had to redo all the main pipes in a house I was living in because of it. Take it seriously, installers. It seemed like someone was playing a trumpet somewhere in the house whenever a faucet was being used. Even the neighbors next to me could hear it.

    • @jgt5642
      @jgt5642 3 года назад +2

      wow

    • @charlesstidham2788
      @charlesstidham2788 3 года назад

      Bored? It didnt make a difference unless there was metering device the pipe was going to. The corrosion crap is just that... crap. Haha been doing heat and air for forever and it does matter on refrigerant lines because of the metering devices. Water pipes are unaffected. This video acts like all piping is copper but most pipes that handle the tasks they are talking about are pvc and it doesn't burr like copper piping so it doesnt require reaming. Just more trade security. Lol

    • @hussssshie
      @hussssshie 3 года назад +3

      @@charlesstidham2788 I dont know about you, but we use copper pipes. Not PVC, not multilayer, or anything like that. It totally made the difference and there was no more rattling, vibrations and banging.
      All the clamps became loose because of the vibrations, but tightening it didn't make any difference at all, just gave more bass to that noise.
      Burrs will never benefit your installation in any way, in any kind of installation, so why leave em? It only takes 5 seconds to deburr a pipe, and if you're soldering it is supposed to be a permanent installation. Unless you're after callbacks it doesn't make any sense

  • @crobinson6065
    @crobinson6065 2 года назад +1

    Thank you! I've been looking at a few of your videos and they are concise and well-explained. Your animations/demonstrations really help to prove your point and helps us to understand. Very informative and well done! Much appreciated.

    • @VexxitYT
      @VexxitYT 2 года назад

      hi mr robinson

  • @georgemacdonald5282
    @georgemacdonald5282 6 месяцев назад +1

    Good video, I'm not a professional but do a lot of this and that and i always debur the inside and outside of all different pipes, but its good to know the problems that it can cause if you dont, as a lot of us do things by the book not realising why were doing it, really appreciate the video.

  • @mikejones6791
    @mikejones6791 3 года назад +4

    I know for a fact that im the only Technician where i work that reams my copper tubing before installation which is crazy! Same goes for using an inspection mirror. Also having 2 containers of flux, one to solder and one to clean after soldering as you should never use one for both because it melts the brush and makes the flux dirty which causes leaks. These 3 reasons are why i have less than 10 callbacks a year and havent had a callback for a leaky solder joint in 5 years!

    • @andrewalexander9492
      @andrewalexander9492 2 года назад +1

      Unfortunately, workmanship and taking pride in your craft is becoming uncommon.

  • @YZFR1mart
    @YZFR1mart 4 года назад +31

    Absolutely correct. . But at the same time pipe turbulence is everywhere in your home. From water passing by a tee to a gate valve to a reducer. . Water is a pain in the ass basically. That's why I wash with sand 🤣

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +2

      LOLLLLL

    • @NOFX0890
      @NOFX0890 4 года назад

      Have you met Emma...

    • @NOFX0890
      @NOFX0890 4 года назад

      I am more into flinging Sir Harington.

    • @NOFX0890
      @NOFX0890 4 года назад

      I undertsand this is not about me though.

  • @sarowie
    @sarowie 2 года назад +1

    that is awesome. The tool you are using does the job nicely and clean and your examples of why it is important are simple, clear and easy to understand.

  • @NOFX0890
    @NOFX0890 4 года назад +1

    I thought clickbait, but it was good.. Thanks man...very informative.

  • @Milosz_Ostrow
    @Milosz_Ostrow 3 года назад +3

    Conventional pipe cutters don't leave a burr on the outside of metal pipes, because they incorporate a roller that smooths the burr down as the tool is rotated about the pipe. Only the inside burr needs to be removed.

  • @shawnkittle5406
    @shawnkittle5406 4 года назад +3

    Dude, good job! Ive ben watchin every vid u put out an their geting better an better. Ur a pro man, keep up the good work!

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Thank you so much Shawn, I really appreciate it man, don't forget to share if you can ;)))

  • @chrisprobert6
    @chrisprobert6 3 года назад +1

    I'm only DIY but assumed that the cutter type you rotate around, closing in the cutter as you go, left a perfectly clean enough edge. Thank you now I know better

  • @rvvrn
    @rvvrn 2 года назад +1

    I kinda thought I knew the importance of deburring but just thought it was to ensure a solid union. Never would have thought the burrs could ultimately cause pins holes due to turbulence. great video!

  • @jamespeyton9144
    @jamespeyton9144 4 года назад +5

    Learned some very important info thanks to this video.

  • @chimera11bxl
    @chimera11bxl 3 года назад +13

    Something I’d never done and I’m sure I’ll have pinholes before long. Dad taught me most things but didn’t get this one sadly.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад +1

      👌

    • @joshwokojance3790
      @joshwokojance3790 2 года назад +1

      Get a piece of pipe and some elbows and a cap. Then a torch and some solder and flux. Practice by making a J shape with two elbows and cap the short part. Place it in a bucket of water and blow into the pipe and look for bubbles. It’s not as hard as you think to teach yourself a new skill.

    • @lantrick
      @lantrick 2 года назад +1

      Same here. I plumbed my upstairs bath without deburring anything about 20 years ago. I guess it's a ticking time bomb now...

  • @vincentlok8894
    @vincentlok8894 4 года назад +2

    Hey Got2Learn, I really appreciate your helpful videos and I must say they are filmed very expertly! The closeups are useful and clear!

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Hey Vincent, glad you appreciated it, I have a lot more to come, stay tuned!

  • @cereberum7866
    @cereberum7866 3 года назад +2

    Learned something new today and can chill for the rest of day. Thank you

  • @hashiramasenju6058
    @hashiramasenju6058 4 года назад +5

    Im a commercial new build plumber and I propress copper a lot and Im not going to lie, most of the time i dont debur the pipe but im going to buy the tool for it.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      When doing propress, the pipe needs to be deburred both on the outside and inside, very important :)

    • @hashiramasenju6058
      @hashiramasenju6058 4 года назад +1

      Yeah we always use grit cloth on the outside whether you are sweating or propressing but most of us didnt realize it was bad to not debur the inside

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Yeah, that's the problem, it kind of disappeared but it still needs to be done.

  • @charlesmooreiii9649
    @charlesmooreiii9649 4 года назад +3

    this explains a lot of questions thx for sharing.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Glad it did, thanks for the comment Charles :)

  • @acemechanical275
    @acemechanical275 2 года назад +1

    Been plumbing for 30 years, been in business 15 years. Sweated literally tens of thousands of joints, have never “deburred” copper tubing. Never had a problem.

  • @RAD6150
    @RAD6150 3 года назад +1

    I am never going to do my own plumbing, but this was incredibly informative. I like the idea of knowing what a contractor is or should be doing.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад +1

      Glad it was helpful Robb, thanks!

  • @jeffm2787
    @jeffm2787 3 года назад +3

    I completely agree with this, I have to wonder how long the burr will last vs it's impact on the pipe. i.e. the burr itself will get worn away over time.

    • @robertopics
      @robertopics 3 года назад +2

      the way i picture in my head is a sportscar (water) going full speed over a speed bump (burr) and the car's front bumper scraping the pavement (the pipe wall). the wear on the burr will be minimal compared to the damage to the wall.

  • @thinklikeido
    @thinklikeido 4 года назад +3

    Bernoulli would be proud of you! Good video.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +1

      Hehe thanks man ;)

  • @samwoo9993
    @samwoo9993 2 года назад +1

    Very well explained and great visual simulations too. Great job

  • @johnvgig
    @johnvgig 2 года назад

    EXCELLENT explanation! Thank you!

  • @arturgukasi8730
    @arturgukasi8730 4 года назад +4

    Great video and great information!

  • @NakataQenKByo
    @NakataQenKByo 4 года назад +4

    Como siempre, un excelente video, con muy buena informacion y con los ejemplos perfectos para cada punto que estas explicando. Muchas Gracias.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Gracias!!

    • @NakataQenKByo
      @NakataQenKByo 4 года назад +1

      @@Got2Learn no se si comprendes español o no, pero videos como los que haces en tu canal hacen falta en mi idioma. Yo hablo y comprendo bien ingles pero aqui en California hay muchos que estan en el oficio que no lo hacen y al momento de que les enseño tus videos no comprenden todo lo que explicas en ellos por la barrera del idioma. Maybe creating a channel like the one you have but in Spanish would help a lot. Let me know what you think.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +1

      Me encantaría hablar español pero no sé cómo, ¿me ayudarían los subtítulos? Si es así, alguien tendría que hacerlos por mí :(

  • @Doctrtony
    @Doctrtony 3 года назад +1

    I always learn a lot from this channel. I always just cut the pipe with little half turns at a time. Always cuts slower but usually leaves just a bit behind I usually hit with some sand paper

  • @pulporock
    @pulporock 4 года назад +1

    I do a lot of copper pipe fittings, almost no plumbers seem to do deburring.
    I saw one plumber deburring the pipe, however when checking the inside pipe the lip was not completely removed.
    I use a metal counter sink drill bit in the drill. Helps when doing a lot and larger diameters.
    Once again great content.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Thanks, yeah unfortunately, it's not seen enough :(

  • @con6951
    @con6951 4 года назад +3

    Great video, I now carry a reamer pen next to my pencils in my pocket and I can’t go without it 💪

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Good job Con ;)

    • @tomrogers9467
      @tomrogers9467 3 года назад +1

      @@Got2Learn (But he still shreds the paper he’s writing on most of the time. Wrong ‘pencil”!

  • @beotheguitarist
    @beotheguitarist 4 года назад +3

    Great video as usual!

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +1

      Thanks so much :) don't forget to share :)

  • @teh60
    @teh60 4 года назад +2

    Great illustrations and explanations. Awesome video.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Thank you so much teh60, really appreciate it :)

  • @misterlarryb
    @misterlarryb 4 года назад +1

    G2L- Your videos are the best, and so far, this one on deburring is the best of the best! This is professional instruction! Narration is paced nicely, demos are great, comparisons of good and bad, before and after, cutaway views, animations, and explanations - just crazy excellent! And kept to a reasonable time.
    So I didn't try the file, but I tried the built-in reamer on my Reed TC1Q and that seemed small and hard to manipulate on 1/2" copper. Next I tried a pencil reamer, and without much practice it didn't work anywhere close as nice as in your video, maybe I can do better with a lot more practice. Then I tried a Husky inner/outer (barrel) reamer, and immediately got great results on the inside. But for the outside, the barrel didn't stay centered for me turning the barrel. What did work for me was to put the barrel tool on the floor (held between my shoes) and rotate the pipe (like a basic pencil sharpener), although not possible if the pipe is very long or already installed. Thanks again!

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Wow, thank you so much for your great comment, I really appreciate it. Some people prefer a pemcil reamer some a cone reamer, it all comes down to preference and then practicing with it, good job Larry!

  • @jeremyscott6641
    @jeremyscott6641 3 года назад +3

    I see the results of this all the time on recirculating lines, absolutely frustrating. Been changing the lines to pex with plastic fittings on the upstream edge to minimize erosion.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад

      🤘

    • @tomrogers9467
      @tomrogers9467 3 года назад

      Recirc lines are the worst - hot water running 24. - 7. Had lots of erosion and corrosion in my commercial units. Especially when the contractor cheats and runs schedule M instead of K. (The M has the thinnest wall, K the thickest.).

  • @tcmtech7515
    @tcmtech7515 4 года назад +29

    Too often hiring a contractor is just paying out the ass to have someone to do it wrong for you. 😢

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +7

      Sad but true, it happens very often. A good, trust-worthy contractor is very hard to come by nowadays :(

    • @garrygraves3848
      @garrygraves3848 2 года назад +1

      How very true. I work at an apartment complex and we contract work out quite a bit and they are more trouble than they are worth!

    • @littlejackalo5326
      @littlejackalo5326 2 года назад +1

      It's really not a problem nowadays with the internet. The only time it really happens in any appreciable amount is when people are too cheap. They want to hire someone off Facebook marketplace or a neighborhood app, and find some random person's cousin's boyfriend that will do it for a 6 pack. Or the person doesn't take the time to vet a contractor online.

    • @jbaker8871
      @jbaker8871 2 года назад

      Lol really, isnt it more likely the owner went with the cheapest price they could find then amazed when corners were cut.

  • @ForeverAGh0st
    @ForeverAGh0st 4 года назад +1

    Great video, why you ream/deburr along chamfering the pipe are literally one of the first things I was studious about and learned right when I started plumbing. Of course as well as establing the habbit,I've only been at it a year and a half,have met plenty ignorant people who don't know why or even do it.
    I actually even got made fun for chamfering my 4" pvc,haha.
    I own that reed chamfering tool as well,along with the ridgid bottle reamers,they are amazing.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Most people think it's a waste of time, but it's not haha :)

    • @ForeverAGh0st
      @ForeverAGh0st 4 года назад +2

      @@Got2Learn Defintely what I was told ,or I can quote by some of the ignorant plumbers I have met. I just responded, if they want to do half ass work,then so be it.
      Also great visualizations.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Thank you Ethan, really appreciate it :)

  • @ZoruaZorroark
    @ZoruaZorroark 4 года назад +2

    when i was helping with cleanup at a construction site, i have always seen the workers use deburring tools on pipes and now i know

  • @HoneyBadgerVideos
    @HoneyBadgerVideos 3 года назад +5

    You never know when you will need to correct your plumber :)

  • @redmunchkin
    @redmunchkin 4 года назад +8

    I use a Dremel with a sanding drum, super fast.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Yep, that's a good alternative :) Thanks redmunchkin :)

    • @MyGreenNest
      @MyGreenNest 3 года назад +1

      Great idea

  • @julian11able
    @julian11able 3 года назад +1

    This man is doing the Lord work

  • @briansd2772
    @briansd2772 3 года назад

    Best explanation and rationale yet. Bravo!

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад

      Thank you so much Brian, please share if you can, cheers!!

  • @sindento1942
    @sindento1942 4 года назад +3

    While they're at it clean the flux off after soldering,it turns the area around the joints green,look in your own house,it's a good bet you'll find green joints,they will rot eventually.Another annoyance is seeing copper pipes running through walls without being sleeved or wrapped,another point where corrosion can strike.It's all done for speed,many can't be bothered to do a good job.

  • @WillPower311
    @WillPower311 4 года назад +3

    It has shown me why deburring is important

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      It is, very, as once the pipe is assembled, it can't be undone after.

  • @johnluniewski1791
    @johnluniewski1791 2 года назад +1

    Extremely well done and educational. Thank you

  • @geof2001
    @geof2001 3 года назад +1

    Well explained and easy to understand! Thanks for this

  • @billb.950
    @billb.950 4 года назад +8

    I had all my copper pipe extrude polished to a 10 micro finish. I'm hoping to increase my pressure and flow as it passes through the pipe. I should get over 50 years of life out of it. I will be eating a dirt sandwich by then but at least water will be flowing nice and smooth through those pipes!

    • @robertgarrett7007
      @robertgarrett7007 3 года назад

      Great job. You have went the extra mile. One point on the increased pressure and flow. I have read that pressure and flow do not increase on a horizontal pipe because of the friction of the liquid rubbing on the walls of the pipe as it is flowing (this would not be noticeable except on a very long run of pipe). On the other hand, flow and pressure of the liquid will increase on a pipe that is dropping in elevation because of gravity or head pressure. I understand that the pressure will increase .433 PSI per 12” of elevation drop. Or 4.33 PSI per 10’ of drop or 43.3 PSI per 100’ of elevation drop and so on. Just some info I’ve read about piping from years ago.

  • @guguigugu
    @guguigugu 4 года назад +12

    you should see the HVAC "experts" in my country. none of them know anything about copper piping, and will try to convince you that it is perfectly normal for a split air conditioner to lose most of its coolant (and therefore capacity) within 5-6 years. of course, they will offer to refill it for a "small" fee. a very nice customer scam and enviromental damage combo.

    • @bobbytafoya13
      @bobbytafoya13 3 года назад

      How do you ream existing copper tubing after it’s been cut, when it’s in a vertical position?

    • @bobbytafoya13
      @bobbytafoya13 3 года назад

      I’m just afraid of small shavings going back down the tubing

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад

      Hold the shard with one hand, team with the other.

    • @bobbytafoya13
      @bobbytafoya13 3 года назад

      @@Got2Learn yea but the pipe is coming up out the roof and it’s only 3/8” copper tubing

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад

      @@bobbytafoya13 what's the problem?

  • @ralphpomm4943
    @ralphpomm4943 3 года назад +2

    I did not know this. Thank very much for all your videos. It all totally makes sense

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад

      👌👌👌🤗🤗🤗

  • @nightrazer85
    @nightrazer85 2 года назад +1

    Thanks. Hopefully I will find an application for this in the near future. Less noise = happy me. Less problems down the line, even better 👍.
    Could be useful in several applications from cars, radiators, plumbing and more. Quick and dirty fixes becomes a headache later on.

  • @ozoneswiftak
    @ozoneswiftak 3 года назад +20

    All those sewer pipes I laid, so much toilet paper hung up. Dammit. I thought I did a good job.

    • @valpanig
      @valpanig 3 года назад +3

      you created good job for the next guy, plumbers need to survive somehow too

    • @Wolfrich666
      @Wolfrich666 3 года назад

      you whole life was a lie ;A;

    • @richardcagle5475
      @richardcagle5475 3 года назад

      dude. same. Im actually kind of worried now after watching this. I also have a theory on why some of my stores get seemingly random holes in the pipes. One in particular has spent thousands chasing tiny holes all over the place.

  • @SteveRogers461
    @SteveRogers461 3 года назад +8

    In over 20 years of working with contractors I've never seen a plumber debur ...

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад +5

      20 years later, people complaining about pinholes LOLLL

    • @manit77
      @manit77 3 года назад +3

      Common sense to have a clean edge.

    • @jonesjones7057
      @jonesjones7057 3 года назад +3

      @@manit77 Hence the reason so few do it.

    • @gregberry1812
      @gregberry1812 3 года назад +4

      I was working for a residential contractor in California years ago and we had hired a frind of one of the guys that worked there that had been a plumber in South Carolina and a building inspector asked him what he used to ream pipe. He said "what do you mean ream?" It was a small apartment building maybe only 8 units, 10 at the most. They made us take every inch of pipe out and pile it in the garage before we could re pipe it.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 3 года назад +1

      @@Got2Learn job security.

  • @Mountain_Paladin
    @Mountain_Paladin 3 года назад +1

    I fought tooth and nail on a 1/2 inch section of copper pipe going to a spigot under my bedroom floor that had two 90° angles leading out through foundation. 4 times I wiggled my fat butt down under there due to pin hole leaks . And each time lasted about a month . I gave up and used a section of pex pipe and fittings. Granted it has not failed yet but I was sure it was due to acidic or alkaline water chemically eroding the copper. We do have very hard water but only this section consistently failed.
    Now that I've seen this video it explains it .
    I fixed it 4 times and then by a professional plumber twice. He said it was due to freeze burst . But right around the pinhole it was thin not cracked or bulged.
    Anyways I really learned something here . I only wish I had seen this sooner 😪
    Great video !

  • @MrAcacio
    @MrAcacio 3 года назад +1

    You are the best brother. May God bless you

  • @chaosordeal294
    @chaosordeal294 4 года назад +8

    Yes, you need to de-burr, but when you cut a pipe only a tiny bit of the material is displaced inward or outward -- mostly it's just parted.

    • @littlejackalo5326
      @littlejackalo5326 2 года назад

      Annnnd? The material is displaced inward, evident by the burr. Who cares how much.

  • @sarssars-hm2ox
    @sarssars-hm2ox 3 года назад +5

    I like seeing different tools for educational purposes 🤔👍 I'm no plumber

  • @rec0n3r
    @rec0n3r 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for sharing. Now i know why my old copper pipes have pin hole leaks. Luckily, as all my pipes were outside and visible, I was able to fix it with some soldering.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад

      Glad to help man, thanks for commenting!

  • @tomthompson7400
    @tomthompson7400 4 года назад +2

    look inside the knob on the annular combo cutter , the internal de burr tool is often built in there.