THE AUTISM WORLD TOUR SEASON 2 Ep. 1 The Netherlands | ft. Berry Van Der Linden (w/ Dutch Subtitles)

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  • Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2024

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  • @madberry
    @madberry Год назад +17

    Thanks everyone for watching liking and commenting. Claire, I and Al(the algorithm) love you for it. I’m glad the video is well received.
    En voor de Nederlanders heb je een opmerking of heb ik iets verkeerd laat het vooral weten hieronder. Btw ik weet inmiddels van Kees Momma die documentaire heb ik na de opname van Claire en mij gezien.

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +4

      Thanks Berry! You were so patient!

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +4

      @@WoodshedTheory You’re awesome don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

  • @ghill8587
    @ghill8587 Год назад +9

    Great discussion! It was nice to “meet” Berry. 👋🏼

  • @T.T.M.60
    @T.T.M.60 Год назад +6

    I was the person who had the biggest woodshed theory mug collection in the world. It was fun, if only for a minute!
    Great interview!

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +3

      Cool and thanks.

    • @T.T.M.60
      @T.T.M.60 Год назад +3

      @@madberry nice to meet you !

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +3

      @@T.T.M.60nice to meet you too.

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +2

      You where that person! I think now the biggest order is three - I feel like that’s a lot of mugs lol

    • @T.T.M.60
      @T.T.M.60 Год назад +1

      @@WoodshedTheory well, maybe the person with 3 has a large family or wanted to give sone as gifts☕️☕️☕️

  • @FirstmaninRome
    @FirstmaninRome Год назад +5

    very nice claire love the subtitles, professional like

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +2

      glad you liked them berry worked hard on them

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +2

      Thanks for the support.

  • @whitneymason406
    @whitneymason406 Год назад +6

    Thanks, Berry and Claire, for sharing this chat with us! As a late diagnosed autistic who parents a nonspeaking autistic child with high support needs, it warmed my heart to hear that they have group homes over there! I would love to take care of my son forever, but I know at some point I may physically not be able to. I should look into whether or not they do something like that here. Also, I appreciate that the Netherlands allows autistics to immigrate there. There are several countries that don't which is unfortunate. I'm looking forward to more tours! Take care, friends!💞

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +3

      Oh I never really thought about immigration policies - I will look more into it thanks

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +3

      That’s actually what the first documentary with Kees Momma was about. He is an autist who has lived with his parents for most of his life. In the documentary his parents asked the question “what will happen to Kees if we are gone”. And Kees himself was really worried about this as well. You have to think so many years ahead of you have an autistic child.

  • @Catlily5
    @Catlily5 Год назад +5

    Thanks Barry and Claire!

  • @Kristoss01
    @Kristoss01 Год назад +4

    God bless you Claire

  • @niekvanderlinden
    @niekvanderlinden Год назад +3

    Hi Berry, very interesting and it is great to know you and how it is to live your life. You are still young. I started to live my life at 55. 😊👍🐌🐌🐌

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +3

      Yeah true. The more you get to live your life on your own terms the easier life seems to become.

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +2

      Snails unite

  • @erynmorgan1717
    @erynmorgan1717 Год назад +9

    This was just so lovely to watch. It is so interesting to hear. My family is so accepting of my young niece who is autistic but is so dismissive of adult who display behviours of autism, that they really ought to know better by then, despite knowing and talking about the fact that my niece may never be able to live completely independently. (UK btw!) And Claire and Berry, I too share a love of plants and crochet, and now autism has become a bit of a special interest atm. Was at the Garden centre yesterday and couldn't resist coming away with a couple of plant babies, Sage and a beautiful succulent that I had never seen before and have to go research today!!

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +5

      Thank you I appreciate it. I can’t walk into a garden center without bringing something home if there is a plant from my wishlist or a plant they have abused at the garden center it has to come home with me. I love succulents too have quite a few of them. And I happen to have sage in the garden.

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +3

      So happy to have you here! I wonder what your family will do when your niece grows up? At what age is she supposed to not be autistic anymore? I think about this a lot

    • @erynmorgan1717
      @erynmorgan1717 Год назад +2

      @@WoodshedTheory I know, it worries me too about my niece
      , or will they always infantilise her and will that hold her back from finding her own eye sparkle? I worry about this for her. I am looking at getting info together for my 19yr daughter to get diagnosed but she is so concerned what our wider family will say but she is at Uni and needs the support living away from home. I wish I had realised sooner that all of us are autisitc - me, my hubby, my 19 and 17 yr old. We just didn't know enough or see it. Our kids behaviours seemed perfectly usual or typical to us. I am now 43, been married for 20yrs and still worried about my parents reactions!

    • @erynmorgan1717
      @erynmorgan1717 Год назад +1

      @@madberry I know, weak or sick ones, I am a sucker for them. I love my plants. The grocers on the corner of the road have a few plants, cheap too and it is soooo hard not to come back with one every time you go!

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +2

      @@erynmorgan1717 Out grocer has the plants right by the door as you walk in so your walking by to wall of plants.
      It’s of course up to our digression who we disclose too. If we don’t want to we do t have to. I think especially in Uni having accommodations can be really important. For me accommodations when doing exams would have really helped a lot with the anxiety the exams caused.

  • @kellyschroeder7437
    @kellyschroeder7437 Год назад +4

    Indeed. He/she is okay ….. Thanks to both of you 💞💙👊

  • @Catlily5
    @Catlily5 Год назад +4

    I got diagnosed at age 47 as well. My mom was angry I was going for a diagnosis and didn't remember much anyway so I didn't bring her. I brought school records. I also had a neuropsych exam from 2007 where they had interviewed my mom and sister. I am not married but I am in a 12 year relationship. My boyfriend was interviewed as well.

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +3

      Thank you for sharing

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +1

      Interestingly they only mentioned marriage in the research I quoted the statistic of. Not long term commit relationships. So the percentage could be higher if they took that into account as well.

    • @Catlily5
      @Catlily5 Год назад +1

      @@madberry If someone is on disability in the USA the government penalizes them heavily for getting married. My boyfriend is against marriage anyway as well. But many disabled people who want to marry here do not because they will take away or extremely cut that person's disability check.

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +1

      @@Catlily5 Ah yeah over here they do that for moving in together doesn’t matter if your married or not.

    • @Catlily5
      @Catlily5 Год назад

      @@madberry I am not sure if living together causes problems here. But I don't live with my boyfriend. We live a 5 min. drive apart.

  • @courtney9212
    @courtney9212 Год назад +5

    Nice to hangout with you guys and get to know you both a bit more😊 thanks

  • @kellyschroeder7437
    @kellyschroeder7437 Год назад +4

    Overwhelmed all the time before diagnosis 💞👊

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +5

      Yeah doing your own research, because before the diagnosis researching ASD becomes a special interest.

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +2

      Yes! Overwhelmed all. The. Time.

  • @edukien8210
    @edukien8210 Год назад +4

    Goed dat jullie als ervaringsdeskundigen jullie ervaringen en informatie met anderen delen. Top! Marga

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +3

      Het is inmiddels erg belangrijk voor me geworden om ervaring te delen online. Zeker als ik weer een vraag of een noodkreet van iemand lees die net er achter komt dat zei mogelijk ook op het spectrum zitten.

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +2

      Thanks for visiting

  • @heedmydemands
    @heedmydemands Год назад +6

    O wow so great to see you guys both. This was my first episode i watched of the autism world tour, I'll have to watch the other ones too. I always wanted to get a parrot, I've never had any type of bird other than laying hens and roosters, which i adored. I also struggled with learning my times table, i was the very last one in my class to finish which i was embarassed about. Then i did really well on a math contest, which may have been related to probability. And when i started into algebra i knew i was going to b just fine. It came easily for all of high school. Math is a safe thing for me. I like how black and white it is, you are right or wrong, simple

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +3

      Love that African grey but he is definitely a commitment they can easily live for up to 80 years. I think if they would have taught me math with a purpose I would have grown to love it. I studied to become an electrician and that math I didn’t have a problem with.

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +2

      Thank you for your support - birds are a huge commitment but they are so cool. My dream is to have a tortoise 🐢 and they are also a commitment

    • @heedmydemands
      @heedmydemands Год назад +1

      @@WoodshedTheory yeah that would b an interesting pet too, I had a snake for a while, she was a nice little corn snake, sweet

    • @heedmydemands
      @heedmydemands Год назад +1

      @@madberry what kind of math is that? Is it like physics? I remember taking electronics and the last year I took it, it was too hard. I still want to come back to it. I loved making circuit boards and stuff

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +1

      @@heedmydemands It’s Ohms law and stuff like that V = I•R. I love electronics I taught myself to solder SMD circuits in 2019. I’ve been building circuits since I was 12 or something. Making my own PCBs. Now you just order the PCBs from a prototyping place no need to mess with dangerous chemicals anymore.

  • @kdcraft89
    @kdcraft89 Год назад +4

    Lovely interview! It can be so relaxing to hear conversations like these. I like plants, too. Even more, my "eccentric" (in olden days, autistic people were called this). grandmother's special interest was definitely plants, she learned all the science and scientific names, etc. My mother got some of that from her, and I got it from both of them. If you take walks with kids and point out plants, talk about them, etc., those kids will know a lot about plants without school. All my siblings are the same. The psychologist, Howard (?) Gardner talked about different types of intelligences, going beyond IQ. Plants/nature intelligence is one. Math intelligence is another one. I can't remember all of them, but it's an interesting theory.

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +3

      I definitely agree on the different IQ’s. I’ve loved plants since I was a little kid I would come home with propagated plants from the elementary school on the regular. It’s always fun to teach kids especially if they thing vegetables grow in the supermarket.

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +2

      Yeah If I’m sitting in silence with my spouse I will start talking about plants 🪴 like what even is that? I catch myself everytime - like talk about something else Claire 😂

    • @kdcraft89
      @kdcraft89 Год назад

      @@WoodshedTheory I don't watch or read the news, it's just sensationalism and annoying, most tv is boring to me. So, talking about plants would be better than those things, but then, I'm a plant person 😁.

  • @kellyschroeder7437
    @kellyschroeder7437 Год назад +6

    Relate so much to mask mask mask then crash and burn. “Lives they lived”. Exactly - who am I ??? 💞💙👊

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +4

      As you become older the burns become longer and longer. I had to seek a diagnosis because I was so exhausted I just couldn’t anymore.

    • @kellyschroeder7437
      @kellyschroeder7437 Год назад +3

      @@madberry Yes, indeed Berry I am F58 and just dx. After so many physical ailments and def a big crash. Still trying to come to terms w dx. Sometimes still feels unreal. Really appreciated your conversation w Claire. All the best to you both 💞💙👊

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +6

      @@kellyschroeder7437 Thats recognizable, after the diagnosis a period of working through the past and self acceptance is needed.

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +3

      Kelly so happy to have you hear it sounds like we all have a lot of common experiences

  • @BCSchmerker
    @BCSchmerker Год назад +6

    +woodshedtheory *The **_Koningrijk Nederlande_** (NLD) is in a quagmire as of July 2023* - Bruxelles (BEL) imposed two judgments in recent court cases that complicate things for (1) the Farmers of Holland (witness the Machiavellian bureaucrats in the Realm that intend to clear the way for Project Tri-State City), and (2) neurodivergent medical clients.

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +2

      Interesting thanks for sharing

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +4

      Hey BC, I don’t remember if I’ve said this before but I do always enjoy you’re comments on the videos. It’s quite a pickle we are in the with problems we have in government over here atm. The EU thinks we are going to slow with the energy transition. But the EU also forgets that we have large datacenters over here for amongst others Google and Meta(Facebook). The farmer problem has stagnated because of the current problems with the fallen kabinet at the moment.

    • @courtney9212
      @courtney9212 Год назад +1

      ​@@madberryvery interesting, we don't hear much about the current events in the Netherlands here in the US.

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +1

      @@courtney9212 Nope not unless you watch Fox News lol. Every once in a while there is a, let’s call her person, from over here that thinks they are an expert on government over here. The last time she was on she said we have bug factories appearing everywhere and we’d all be eating bugs soon over here. Which isn’t true at all.

    • @courtney9212
      @courtney9212 Год назад +1

      @@madberry 🤣 I probably have the Netherlands jumbled up in my mind with Sweden and your other neighbors but the only thing I've seen in the media about y'all is you are very happy and have phenomenal school systems with highly paid teachers.😉 Take that with a grain of salt too because I really don't watch much TV, mainly RUclips, don't know if that's any better🤪

  • @1997Jeep
    @1997Jeep Год назад +6

    @madberry great interview, I was diagnosed ASD at 47 years old myself (Dyslexia & ADHD as a child.)
    How are you dealing with close family that don't belive you have ASD?
    As a Dyslexic AuDHD myself, people would try to hear my concerns & work with me before knowing I was Autistic.
    After an ASD diagnosis, family members are less patient when I struggle, & are more likely to say something like, "You know this is a problem for Autistic people, why aren't you working harder?"

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +5

      I educate them in the hopes they want to listen. Some people how are stuck in the mode of telling you “all people have X” and you can’t really get them to not do that sometimes. The context is also important if someone is saying it just to be mean then I probably will just let them stew in their own bubble. Both sides of the family, paternal and maternal, have autism and other spectrums in them so extend family is usually fine. It’s also a matter of acceptance for close family members which can be hard. Especially if they now recognize they might also be on the spectrum.

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +3

      Thanks for the support!

  • @mariuszwisla3230
    @mariuszwisla3230 Год назад +1

    37th minute of video
    to that I say:
    Inclusivity has 3 levels actually: Tolerance, Acceptance, Understanding. 95% of people are at 1st. I met only 5 (4 male, 1 female) in total I would say they're at 3rd.

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +1

      I agree with you. I believe that for understanding more knowledge is needed and an allistic usually needs a reason to gain this knowledge.

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +1

      Thanks for your comment

  • @heedmydemands
    @heedmydemands Год назад +4

    O and i was curious, what type of support did u get early on school Claire? I got speech therapy for a while and i remember being given a huge box of books over a summer that i was to read out loud, much to the dismay of my 2 younger siblings lol

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +3

      I’ve always loved books growing up. I had a library card at a very young age because internet wasn’t an option yet.

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +2

      Speech therapy and I think I went to special reading class as well

    • @heedmydemands
      @heedmydemands Год назад

      @@madberry fiction/nonfiction

    • @heedmydemands
      @heedmydemands Год назад

      @@WoodshedTheory yeah we probably got similar help. I am a slow reader, I don't skim. I'm pretty sure I read about the same speed in my head as I would if I was saying the words out loud.

  • @Dayglodaydreams
    @Dayglodaydreams Год назад +2

    I am jealous of people with good friends sometimes, I don’t know why.

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +1

      Friendships are hard they take some extra work for us.

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +1

      I agree with Berry - they do take a lot of effort for us

  • @lidylindgreen
    @lidylindgreen Год назад +2

    Hoi Berry, ik heb het hele interview gezien. Zoals ik je via whatsapp liet weten ben ik onder de indruk van jullie openheid. Ik besef dat je je binnen de familie erg alleen moet hebben gevoeld en 'niet begrepen' Sta je open voor een of meer gesprekken om het daar eens over te hebben? Zo ja, stuur je me dan een privé berichtje. Sowieso vind ik het supercool dat jullie opkomen voor jullie zelf en de autistische medemens en ook dat jullie via het forum proberen te werken aan een 'betere toekomst'. Succes met dit mooie initiatief.

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +2

      Ja ik stuur even een berichtje. Het is inmiddels belangrijk geworden voor me om mijn ervaringen en zo de wat jongere generatie vooruit te helpen.

    • @WoodshedTheory
      @WoodshedTheory  Год назад +1

      Thanks for your support

  • @mariuszwisla3230
    @mariuszwisla3230 Год назад +2

    Supported housing - amazing idea - you grow up with your own kind, without constant feeling of alienness, and learn life skills,.
    I wasn't thought anything in regard to social skills, or organising life, work, partnerships, friendships, and it was massive shock for me when I hit 18, to find out
    I was thought only house chpres, grandad planned for me to take over farm, I would love it, but he didn't write will, and I was 11y.o.
    after my granddad died my family didn't know what to do about me , except preventing public from learning about me being different, since it would mean ostracising whole family, my sisters wouldn't date or marry for sure, previous century in Poland shortly after fall of comunism was full of prejudice fueled by catholic priests

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +1

      Yeah most people thought that with the fall of communism in Poland stuff would change fast. But it really became worse not better. A lot of your country men are over here earning way more money then they could in Poland. Running a farm would be pretty fun to do. But not for an 11 year old of course.

    • @mariuszwisla3230
      @mariuszwisla3230 Год назад +2

      @@madberry
      Yes better pay, or any pay is powerful initial motivation. But many decides to stay. Among those I know, majority of those still here in UK after brexit do not plan to go back to living in Poland.
      I mentioned to point out, that being a farmer is one of those jobs that are good for autistic in my opinion.
      I suspect my grandad, and his daughter, mty mom to be autistic. But there is no talking with my mom. She only believes in the versions sold by church.

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +2

      @@mariuszwisla3230 Yeah it’s sometimes hard for parents to accept anyway. Even harder for the religious ones.

    • @mariuszwisla3230
      @mariuszwisla3230 Год назад +2

      @@madberry Especially if church implies it's a curse, or punishment sent by god.
      In polish there is a saying: "You do not re-plant old trees", applicable to this situation. I know I won't make her change her views. But, what makes it difficult talking to my mom is that she won't stop reminding me of how my life should look like. As if I had a choice in the matter. Wife? I can't even get girls to date me. Good job? I can't even get any job, except when special circumstances apply, e.g. collegue's referral. Making babies? Unless I clone myself. LOL

    • @madberry
      @madberry Год назад +3

      @@mariuszwisla3230 They don’t realize they push you away with that kind of stuff.

  • @krugerfuchs
    @krugerfuchs 2 месяца назад

    Can you get on with what its like