I’ve been a professional editor for about 12 years, working mostly in TV, and I have to say that this is a really great and well explained video about what this kind of work is like. It’s a fun job, and I consider myself very lucky! Something worth adding is that when I tell people about what I do, people are often surprised about how much an editor also does the sound design, sound mixing, and chooses music (if the music isn’t being scored, the editor often cuts with temp music). Not to mention basic graphic design, color correction, and working with and understanding visual effects workflows. Another thing worth adding is that even though the director is a major creative force during the edit, the editor also has to deal with lots of other cooks in the kitchen. This includes producers and execs who work for the studio or network (or whoever is paying for the production). These notes can often work against a lot of the creative choices that have already been carried out in the rough/fine cut stages. It can be a very frustrating process. So another major task for an editor is to find creative ways to carry out network/studio notes while maintaining the integrity of the film/show.
I’ve never understood why these people don’t get more credit, publicly. I’m sure they get a lot of respect and admiration in the industry but they’re practically unknown to the outside world. The only editor i know by name is thelma schoonmaker. A good musical analogy is the mix engineer of an album. He takes all the stuff that the producers, artist and engineers laid down and with absolute mountains of musical knowledge and experience, turns it into the product you hear. Yet how many listeners know the name chris lord alge, bob clearmountain or brendan obrien? These men are geniuses through and through. There’s no other word for it...but no one knows who they are. It’s quite a career.
THANK YOU! As an editor I can tell you that we have to sometimes work really hard to make sure our actors, directors, and DPs look as good as they do. You never see the bad takes, and if there are any, we do a lot to play with the psychology of the edit so you never know it was bad.
I think it is related to what is general knowledge of common people . I just like other viewers knew that director makes a movie , so he decides everything and other people like editor and cinematographers( cameramans :) ) just do techniqal stuff . But just i now came to know that what 'Editor' actually do and how important and influencial their work is for a movie , I will always conciously think about editors of movies I like .
HI, I'm a 30 year vet of editing...I am an introvert. I do not want to be known its what lead me to the editing room after a 6 year forced indentured journey as a rockstar.
FYI: "In the early years of film, editing was considered a technical job; editors were expected to "cut out the bad bits" and string the film together. Indeed, when the Motion Picture Editors Guild was formed, they chose to be "below the line", that is, not a creative guild, but a technical one. This was very helpful to women. Women were not usually able to break into the "creative" positions; directors, cinematographers, producers, and executives were almost always men. Editing afforded creative women a place to assert their mark on the film making process." - Wikipedia
I do this 5 days a week in my mass media class for our news show. No matter how much I get taken for granted, I love editing!! It's more work than outsiders think, but you do what you enjoy.
I've been an editor for decades. Started on Flatbed and was the first gen Avid User back in '93. This is a great job of explaining the critical role of editing. You should add something about the very critical sound editing process bc THAT is so overlooked by the public but so significant. Also the role of editor in documentary films is more like a director/writer as well. but great job.
Writing novels works the same way, but the author is the editor through most of the first draft and the next few drafts before it is sent to a professional editor for publication. I enjoy the editing process very much. It's nice to see how this process is done for movies. Thank you.
This is what I aspire to be! Thanks for this series. It's been very useful, and I've used it to show other people at my level what the job they're wanting to do entails. I look forward to the marketing installment!
Ahhh!! How did I miss this episode? I've been waiting for it for sooo long. I want to become an editor some day 💙 Thank you so much CrashCourse! I've learned so much throughout this whole course
Even after all this time I am in sheer wonder watching the classic Warner Brothers cartoons of the 40's and 50's. Because of the limitations of time and money nearly all the editing was done before a single cell was drawn.
The editor made both versions. What gets released in theaters is most often the Studio's Cut. The director has his vision, and then the studio executives consult with marketing and distribution and order the film to be altered for various business reasons.
Domdrok I disagree (though I agree that most people think that way)... I find directors cuts often are too long and add unnecessary scenes, ruining the rhythm, pace and impact a lot of the time. I think having someone else involved in editing helps the director look beyond what they want and see new opportunities for what's best for the film
Domdrok oh I like getting more lore too (which is why I always do every side mission in video games :p) but I find some directors cuts DONT add more lore or really anything but time... if it does, then it could be worth it (though there's always the question of if you can add too much info, like in Blade Runner)
To me, editing is an omnipresent task that an artist have to perform be it anything from editing a research paper to editing a big budget film. In terms of filmmaking, editing sounds more like the name of a monster because how over the course of history, great pieces of art were edit out just because they were a little to sharp. After this video, I found how important an editor is. I came to know their value as what they can do to enhance the film. For example, the editor, Dylan Tichenor, Paul Thomar Anderson and co. would drink Vodka and eat Steak to edit. Their objective was to get into the mind of Daniel Plainview. A thing I found about editing is that how the studio heads have an army of their own when the filmmaker's army cross the boss. Usually, people are unaware of the editors and then there are some puppets who would destroy everything. Take alien 3. It's the best when it comes to neutering a great movie. All I would say, is, appreciate them.
I'm taking an editing class right now, and you did a really good job of summing-up what I think the professor's been trying to say all semester, but hasn't quite made clear!
Kevin D Automated Dialogue Replacement, some times called ADR, is the process in which dialogue from a scene will be re recorded to match the visuals of the scene. It will be done if say there is an issue with sound quality or the audio was not picked up. After the actor re records their lines others will go in an make it so that it doesn't sound like it was recorded in a studio and fits in with the scene.
Imagine shooting a scene by a busy highway or airport. In one OTS you have a lot of traffic, and in the other traffic is dead. If you were to cut between the two shots you'd hear "WOOOOOOOSH.... (silence)... WOOOOOOOOSH... (silence)" as each cut happens. With ADR we can replace the background noise with environment sounds (ie. consistant traffic), and then add the dialogue (caputured in studio to SOUND like it was live) and the audience will never know...
it's funny watching an educational video and a company my dad used to work for pops up, avid sports was his division, same concept just for sports film editing so he was dealing with NBA and NFL teams and they would use their technology for film sessions during practice and such. We would get tickets from his work a few times a year and once I got to go to the NBA finals the year the Celtics won so that was pretty amazing
Assistant Editors take charge of the day-to-day running edit suite, leaving the Editor free to concentrate on the work of editing the film. The first task is to communicate with other relevant departments (production, camera, sound, etc.) to understand and analyse the work flow, and to pass this information on to the Editor. During the shoot, while the Editor starts to work on a rough assembly of selected rushes, Assistant Editors check the camera sheets when the rushes arrive, noting any technical problems. Assistant Editors often work in a different room to the Editor and, on low budget films, may be required to sync rushes early in the morning or late at night when the editing machine is not being used by the Editor. Consequently, the traditional apprenticeship model for Assistant Editors has changed, as less time is now spent watching and learning from the Editor. Assistant Editors must therefore be more proactive in monitoring how the edit is progressing. Depending on the workload, and providing the Editor trusts the Assistant, whole segments of the assembly edit may be given over to Assistant Editors, who can use this opportunity to demonstrate their flair and ability. When picture lock is achieved, one of the Assistant Editors' last tasks is to compile an Edit Decision List, which provides a record of all the edit points. Assistant Editors are usually recommended to Producers by Editors, who prefer to work with the same Assistant. Assistant Editors are normally employed on a freelance basis, from the first day of principal photography and see the film through to picture lock (when the Director and/or Executive Producer give final approval of the picture edit). They work long hours and are the first to arrive in the morning, setting the cutting room up for the day, and usually the last to leave in the evenings when the cutting room has been tidied and prepared for the next day. Jobs last between six months and eight months on average.
Ok so if I was looking for colleges for editing (movies) bc that’s what I want to do what would the career job be called so that I’m not applying for a different job in film making
I disagree. I tell my students (I'm an editor, btw) that they must protect the actors, director, and cinematographer. When you watch a completed film you'll see the BEST of what was captured. What you don't see are the blocking and camera mistakes, the bad lighting because an actor missed their mark, or focus issues. Sometimes the editor is pulling off some awesome magic to make sure the DP has an amazing shot. I've always thought that every Oscar that goes to the DP, Director, and actor should have a little oscar that screws out of the base to give to the editor.
thank you very much my sister I like it how to suggest this lesson your honest person so thank you a lot my sister and i will commitment in your lessons
Editors don't integrate special effects. Special effects are done ON SET. What you're looking to say is VISUAL effects, which is done in the computer, after production. (ie. Real explosion with pyro, firetrucks, and people protecting their eyebrows vs. Houdini, Maya, or other Dynamics software).
Eisenstein often did everything, directing, editing, filming and went out in the streets to recruits random people as he didn't like to employ professional actors.
If you're looking for a good (free/inexpensive) video editing package, check out VSDC. No time limits on free version, and pay version is cheap for the advanced functionality.
I honestly felt like it was over used? I saw it in so many different videos and wanted to showcase that it appears in other places :) - Nick J (Producer)
I’ve been a professional editor for about 12 years, working mostly in TV, and I have to say that this is a really great and well explained video about what this kind of work is like. It’s a fun job, and I consider myself very lucky!
Something worth adding is that when I tell people about what I do, people are often surprised about how much an editor also does the sound design, sound mixing, and chooses music (if the music isn’t being scored, the editor often cuts with temp music). Not to mention basic graphic design, color correction, and working with and understanding visual effects workflows.
Another thing worth adding is that even though the director is a major creative force during the edit, the editor also has to deal with lots of other cooks in the kitchen. This includes producers and execs who work for the studio or network (or whoever is paying for the production). These notes can often work against a lot of the creative choices that have already been carried out in the rough/fine cut stages. It can be a very frustrating process. So another major task for an editor is to find creative ways to carry out network/studio notes while maintaining the integrity of the film/show.
This is so well done. You guys are one of the only youtubers that’ve maintained their content quality. Thank you
Butros Nayan they’re a professional outfit, not some guys and a webcam in a bedroom.
AnimeOtaku2 a very talented professional outfit at that.
I’ve never understood why these people don’t get more credit, publicly. I’m sure they get a lot of respect and admiration in the industry but they’re practically unknown to the outside world. The only editor i know by name is thelma schoonmaker.
A good musical analogy is the mix engineer of an album. He takes all the stuff that the producers, artist and engineers laid down and with absolute mountains of musical knowledge and experience, turns it into the product you hear. Yet how many listeners know the name chris lord alge, bob clearmountain or brendan obrien? These men are geniuses through and through. There’s no other word for it...but no one knows who they are. It’s quite a career.
THANK YOU! As an editor I can tell you that we have to sometimes work really hard to make sure our actors, directors, and DPs look as good as they do. You never see the bad takes, and if there are any, we do a lot to play with the psychology of the edit so you never know it was bad.
I think it is related to what is general knowledge of common people . I just like other viewers knew that director makes a movie , so he decides everything and other people like editor and cinematographers( cameramans :) ) just do techniqal stuff . But just i now came to know that what 'Editor' actually do and how important and influencial their work is for a movie , I will always conciously think about editors of movies I like .
They dont get credit because great editing is always invisible to the viewers
HI,
I'm a 30 year vet of editing...I am an introvert. I do not want to be known its what lead me to the editing room after a 6 year forced indentured journey as a rockstar.
FYI: "In the early years of film, editing was considered a technical job; editors were expected to "cut out the bad bits" and string the film together. Indeed, when the Motion Picture Editors Guild was formed, they chose to be "below the line", that is, not a creative guild, but a technical one. This was very helpful to women. Women were not usually able to break into the "creative" positions; directors, cinematographers, producers, and executives were almost always men. Editing afforded creative women a place to assert their mark on the film making process." - Wikipedia
Ssgt Griggs 👌 😄
Good work, to the editor who edited this video.
I do this 5 days a week in my mass media class for our news show. No matter how much I get taken for granted, I love editing!! It's more work than outsiders think, but you do what you enjoy.
I've been an editor for decades. Started on Flatbed and was the first gen Avid User back in '93. This is a great job of explaining the critical role of editing. You should add something about the very critical sound editing process bc THAT is so overlooked by the public but so significant. Also the role of editor in documentary films is more like a director/writer as well. but great job.
I wonder if the editors of this video ever realized they had a 103% pie chart...
Editors create magic!
It reflects the importance and need for editing :P
Writing novels works the same way, but the author is the editor through most of the first draft and the next few drafts before it is sent to a professional editor for publication. I enjoy the editing process very much. It's nice to see how this process is done for movies. Thank you.
I just saw killer of the flower moon. Grat work lily ❤️
Fantastic video. You managed to cover all the key editing concepts in a short amount of time, without making it seem like an overload of info.
This is what I aspire to be! Thanks for this series. It's been very useful, and I've used it to show other people at my level what the job they're wanting to do entails. I look forward to the marketing installment!
Thank you Crash Course video editors.. you're the magicians..
Ahhh!! How did I miss this episode? I've been waiting for it for sooo long. I want to become an editor some day 💙 Thank you so much CrashCourse! I've learned so much throughout this whole course
This is my thing❤
Both are my things. 😏
Same, I make amvs ouo
Even after all this time I am in sheer wonder watching the classic Warner Brothers cartoons of the 40's and 50's. Because of the limitations of time and money nearly all the editing was done before a single cell was drawn.
I, and probably other people, sometimes see the “Director’s Cut” as the ultimate version of a film. How does that make editors feel?
The editor made both versions. What gets released in theaters is most often the Studio's Cut. The director has his vision, and then the studio executives consult with marketing and distribution and order the film to be altered for various business reasons.
Domdrok I disagree (though I agree that most people think that way)... I find directors cuts often are too long and add unnecessary scenes, ruining the rhythm, pace and impact a lot of the time. I think having someone else involved in editing helps the director look beyond what they want and see new opportunities for what's best for the film
Ksenia H Yeah, it’s not for everybody. I’m the type of person who will sit through some drawn out stuff for more story/lore.
TheJaredtheJaredlong Ok, thanks. Didn’t know.
Domdrok oh I like getting more lore too (which is why I always do every side mission in video games :p) but I find some directors cuts DONT add more lore or really anything but time... if it does, then it could be worth it (though there's always the question of if you can add too much info, like in Blade Runner)
Thanks!
For vloggers though being the editor and the director of your movie its a fun collaboration to make it exciting at all times!
I love editing. Thank you for this video. It's so informative and well edited.
To me, editing is an omnipresent task that an artist have to perform be it anything from editing a research paper to editing a big budget film. In terms of filmmaking, editing sounds more like the name of a monster because how over the course of history, great pieces of art were edit out just because they were a little to sharp. After this video, I found how important an editor is. I came to know their value as what they can do to enhance the film. For example, the editor, Dylan Tichenor, Paul Thomar Anderson and co. would drink Vodka and eat Steak to edit. Their objective was to get into the mind of Daniel Plainview. A thing I found about editing is that how the studio heads have an army of their own when the filmmaker's army cross the boss. Usually, people are unaware of the editors and then there are some puppets who would destroy everything. Take alien 3. It's the best when it comes to neutering a great movie. All I would say, is, appreciate them.
The last time I was this early, editors still used razors and tape.
i love it
Have a lot of respect for editors
Good shoutout to the soviet montage video, man!! I miss those times...like..early this year.
I still like this new videos
Great video, informative and easy to digest. Thanks!
Fine cut -> Final Cut… one thing I’ve learned in this series is that there are so many common terms with film origins
cool lesson and also a book recommendation??? very nice♥
Yay Keep This series going Im Loving It Yes Marketing seems to fate of Films These days
Top 3 Crash Course hosts - Lily, Mike, and Nicole!
I want more of these!!!!!!
I'm taking an editing class right now, and you did a really good job of summing-up what I think the professor's been trying to say all semester, but hasn't quite made clear!
5:02, RIP Sharknado.
Who’s here for tv class in Livingston 🥰🥰
I am a simple man. I see Wai's movies, i press like
Really my fav crash curse at the time, at one of the best in the channel.
Oh, look! Today's episode is about me :D
What's their pay grade? Relative to the other artistic leads we've discussed?
They're below the line, so not as much as Above. Typically editors are hourly, which can range from $40+.
it helps me a lot, thank you very much.
Just exactly what is "Automated Dialogue Replacement" and how does it work?
Kevin D Automated Dialogue Replacement, some times called ADR, is the process in which dialogue from a scene will be re recorded to match the visuals of the scene. It will be done if say there is an issue with sound quality or the audio was not picked up. After the actor re records their lines others will go in an make it so that it doesn't sound like it was recorded in a studio and fits in with the scene.
Imagine shooting a scene by a busy highway or airport. In one OTS you have a lot of traffic, and in the other traffic is dead. If you were to cut between the two shots you'd hear "WOOOOOOOSH.... (silence)... WOOOOOOOOSH... (silence)" as each cut happens. With ADR we can replace the background noise with environment sounds (ie. consistant traffic), and then add the dialogue (caputured in studio to SOUND like it was live) and the audience will never know...
The way this video covered everything makes my currently building film degree seem less intimidating.
Don't be intimidated, just shoot. Shoot. Shoot shoot shoot shoot shoot and shoot some more. Good luck!
it's funny watching an educational video and a company my dad used to work for pops up, avid sports was his division, same concept just for sports film editing so he was dealing with NBA and NFL teams and they would use their technology for film sessions during practice and such. We would get tickets from his work a few times a year and once I got to go to the NBA finals the year the Celtics won so that was pretty amazing
Loved this video! Can you do one on assistant editors? That's what my job is :)
Can you explain your job? I really want to learn more. Thanks!
Assistant Editors take charge of the day-to-day running edit suite, leaving the Editor free to concentrate on the work of editing the film.
The first task is to communicate with other relevant departments (production, camera, sound, etc.) to understand and analyse the work flow, and to pass this information on to the Editor.
During the shoot, while the Editor starts to work on a rough assembly of selected rushes, Assistant Editors check the camera sheets when the rushes arrive, noting any technical problems.
Assistant Editors often work in a different room to the Editor and, on low budget films, may be required to sync rushes early in the morning or late at night when the editing machine is not being used by the Editor. Consequently, the traditional apprenticeship model for Assistant Editors has changed, as less time is now spent watching and learning from the Editor. Assistant Editors must therefore be more proactive in monitoring how the edit is progressing.
Depending on the workload, and providing the Editor trusts the Assistant, whole segments of the assembly edit may be given over to Assistant Editors, who can use this opportunity to demonstrate their flair and ability.
When picture lock is achieved, one of the Assistant Editors' last tasks is to compile an Edit Decision List, which provides a record of all the edit points.
Assistant Editors are usually recommended to Producers by Editors, who prefer to work with the same Assistant. Assistant Editors are normally employed on a freelance basis, from the first day of principal photography and see the film through to picture lock (when the Director and/or Executive Producer give final approval of the picture edit).
They work long hours and are the first to arrive in the morning, setting the cutting room up for the day, and usually the last to leave in the evenings when the cutting room has been tidied and prepared for the next day. Jobs last between six months and eight months on average.
Educational!
Ok so if I was looking for colleges for editing (movies) bc that’s what I want to do what would the career job be called so that I’m not applying for a different job in film making
I feel like this series needs an episode on score, soundtrack, sound effects and foley. This course is awesome though.
Guess Fast and Furious movies is where editors start their career from.
The most difficult part of cinematography in my opinion.
this isn't a part of cinematography
I disagree. I tell my students (I'm an editor, btw) that they must protect the actors, director, and cinematographer. When you watch a completed film you'll see the BEST of what was captured. What you don't see are the blocking and camera mistakes, the bad lighting because an actor missed their mark, or focus issues. Sometimes the editor is pulling off some awesome magic to make sure the DP has an amazing shot. I've always thought that every Oscar that goes to the DP, Director, and actor should have a little oscar that screws out of the base to give to the editor.
Thomas yeah but you're still editing not doing cinematography
thank you very much my sister I like it how to suggest this lesson your honest person so thank you a lot my sister and i will commitment in your lessons
What do you mean the difference between Jaws and Sharknado? It's not Sharknado but Jaws is still a good movie!
Damn boy she's pretty 😍😍😍
Where is the Walter 'Murch' Link?
Aahhh this is so cool ! :D
Sounds like hard work but so cool ^^
TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS!!!!
hi
Editors don't integrate special effects. Special effects are done ON SET. What you're looking to say is VISUAL effects, which is done in the computer, after production. (ie. Real explosion with pyro, firetrucks, and people protecting their eyebrows vs. Houdini, Maya, or other Dynamics software).
The editor also doesn't integrate the visual effects, the Compositor does. ;)
All of those points on the chart are the same thing...... Emotion is rhythm is 3d space is eye trace and 2d plane and is the story.
Eisenstein often did everything, directing, editing, filming and went out in the streets to recruits random people as he didn't like to employ professional actors.
Thanks for collaborating with me
If you're looking for a good (free/inexpensive) video editing package, check out VSDC. No time limits on free version, and pay version is cheap for the advanced functionality.
1+2=3 (only real ones know what I'm talking about here)
Can anyone think of a film besides "Grosse Pointe Blank" that used two takes of the same scene instead of picking just one?
It would be awesome if you guys could add an episode of film scoring to this series!
Is this Lilly Gladstone?
editors love cinematographers who cut on "cut" (thats sarcasm).
There’s like a dozen people who were first here
Not using Mad Max Fury Road for an example of eye tracing? Come *on*, Crash Course.
I honestly felt like it was over used? I saw it in so many different videos and wanted to showcase that it appears in other places :)
- Nick J (Producer)
The Iron Giant (although with animation it's easier to create eyetrace)
right because there's only one example to use *eyeroll*
Good gosh, don‘t remind me of the work I have to do for my Universities Paris Workshop trip!
it's really great content, but the talking speed could be slower to let audience absorb knowledge easier
Take a shot every time she says "shot"
Not first but pretty early
window movie maker
Thanks for commenting on my video
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Just wanted to say that Sharknado is a good film.
unless it's lucas... he can't get his hands off...
Ahh crash course - the only thing keeping my brain from falling into uselessness.
If a movie is as said "a sequence of shots" than i've made a lot of movies ... and lots to come .... prrost
So speed. Speak slow. Slow and study win the race.
I dont understand what you said about it?
idiot
i am the 8th like
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wait, so whats an editor? i went to the bathroom. whose that chick? is that the editor? dont shush me! whats a cinematographer then?
sush
She's hot
So, with modern editing software available, there's no excuse for those teeth?
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