The Skillshare ad was worked in well, but the pop up youtube ads bothered me... it bothers me on other videos too, but on an editing video it's particularly jarring when an ad pops up in the middle of a sentence/thought. I know there is a way to control how many ads are on a video, but is there a way to control exactly where they pop up so you can space them more like you would TV commercials, where there is a natural pause?
It's not that there are ads though, it's that they aren't placed well. Why can't they give you an exact point to add it, for instance, in this video, between points?
It does work! Never disregard it, until you look into it. When I am stuck, I can usually find SOME answer, or even just re-listen to the type of advice in this video. Even if a concrete answer to my issue isn't floating around online, remembering what the process is and what it does can amp me up to get back to it and tackle my projects.
yeah it is true tho, i taught myself to edit from youtube when i was pretty young, this website is great for learning new skills and you'd be pretty surprised at how easy it is with a little research
Great video! Here's a breakdown of what I took from each lesson, 1. Know when NOT to cut. Be present and keep your ego in check. 2. Edit to what YOU want. The director will come later and make changes. 3. Trust the process, your changes will be addressed if the film requires. 4. Be a collaborator. 5. Editing is a process of REVISION. You'll need to go back and edit what you edit. 6. Organization = editing. Compartmentalize the smaller chunks. 7. How do you make it as an editor? JUST START EDITING. Cut what you can, as often as possible. 8. Ask yourself, how does your scene affect the overall story? Make adjustments to keep it cohesive. 9. Use reaction shots wisely. Usually it's more interesting to show who's listening rather than who's speaking. 10. Study the why during editing. Make choices intuitively but know the analytical reason why you cut it that way in the first place.
I'd add another one just from that magnificent intro. Pay attention ... See how Ejiofor's feet dug a hole. (Maybe from reshooting and all ...) A man really trying to survive, would shovel dirt from the curvature of the hole he created back into the crator (This also intensifies the whole length of the rope detail. Just enough to stay alive, not enough to stay alive after digging a hole.). Now instead of majestic, which it is, it becomes a matter of life and death. Some might say this is stepping on the director's toes. I say it's a collaborative medium. You notice something. You talk. The director tells you to f off? You comply and you don't feel like betraying the art.
I'd add that 9 was about how showing who is listening (the reaction) is commonly known to be better, but sometimes you have to break that rule and show the full line being delievered when it's important and you want it to stick.
The added vfx in Arrival to make the dream sequence work was genius! It’s such a mundane scene but then the addition of the alien makes it so trippy and surreal.
Reaction shots are a HUGE factor in almost every scene in Mindhunter. When interrogating or interviewing prospective and certain serial killers, seeing their subject's reaction tells you much about the man. The second season Bill Tench communicates with Holden almost entirely through his facial expressions. David Fincher really is an intelligent Director and his editor is incredible.
Yeah, it was a bit confusing. He said he interviewed a bunch of people so I assumed it was them? But they alternate between who's talking and come with small comments and then a skillshare ad? It honestly feels like this originally was a podcast that then got made into a video.
@@kristofermens It isn't uncommon for actors to get different pages. It's totally possible Holden's lines as written on the pages given to the local cops was a boilerplate interview. Of course, there's no way these were the first reaction shots, but planting that seed of authentic reactions to the unexpected becomes a tool for the actor(s) to return to in subsequent takes.
I think another important part for any person in this industry (including editors) is to always have an answer to the question of "WHY?". If somebody asks why did you cut there or why you shot like that, you shouldn't answer "because I felt that was needed", you should always have a clear (sometimes analytical answer) explaining WHY. Always be prepared to have answers to that question as you start your day and you'll do fine.
I completely disagree. If you listen to most of the greates editors(and artists) most of them go with their gut feeling. So much of art is impossible to put into words. Analytical answers are for the studio bosses to ruin movies and feel better about themselves. If we analysed ever cut alot of great classical cuts wouldn't have been made.
I am sure professionals do have their reasons as to why they do something (editing, getting certain shots, etc.). It's not uncommon for them to find it hard explaining the reasoning behind their own action. Also, remember that they are mostly learning by doing, trial and error, see what fits and what doesn't. It takes time to put everything they have learned into words that everyone, even the most clueless ones, can understand.
@kshamwhizzle and generally speaking, you're not going to be sitting in the editor's seat without already first having built up a repertoire with the director to where they trust your judgement. If you're an assistant trying to bank on your "gut feeling" yeah, that's not going to wash. Trust me, directors can spot a good editor who understands rhythm and timing in where they choose to make their edit and they can spot a bs-er who doesn't know squat about shot composition and continuity.
I absolutely agree. It is an important aspect of-in my case-being a graphic designer. If you can explain why you've done something a certain way or speak your case, the client is more likely to see it from your side if your arguments are sound. Telling someone that you did something because you just felt like it is going to convince very few people.
Im kinda new into editing and have watched TONS of tutorials on how editing works. I've learned a few technical tricks here and there. However, this video right here gave me a completely different depth and approach to how to actually get the storytelling, emotions and reactions on the audience side of the story. Thanks! Subscribed.
either you're a storyteller or you aren't. That's the difference. Tutorials don't teach you discernment of video---that is learned through the doing of editing and studying under professionals.
I'm not an editor and I enjoy watching analytical videos that teach me storytelling. Those storytelling skills I'm then using for communication and games that I'm making.
Really love that comment on just getting out there shooting with what you have and where you are ability wise. As you do your brain begins to recognise the process of whatever you are doing eventually progressing.
13:30 - I think this one is possibly my favorite lesson from this. I've always thought of how quick you cut in a conversation contradicts the pacing but then I never thought of using lines on or off camera to create an emotion or give information. Love it.
I really should be doing my stuff right now, but I thought it would be nice to leave some insights here. TIMELINE: 1. 2:21 Keep your ego in check 2. 4:18 Trust the process - accepting that learning takes time 3. 5:58 Bad ideas lead to good ideas - experimenting with absurd ideas 4. 8:05 Editing is editing - having dynamics in rhythm 5. 9:46 Organization - figuring out what can be ignored 6. 10:53 Just edit 7. 11:23 Beware of how edits affect the story 8. 13:09 Beware of reactions *13:51 Line delivery: Over = information Off = emotion 9. 15:48 Study the process - not intuition but accumulation of experience and objective ideas 10. When not to cut *some of the titles here were too vague so I included paraphrases and explanations Most important part here is #8 imo. This video is more like the philosophy of film than a textbook to guide you through fairly specific details of editing. Also, the way they made a podcast and edited it into a narrative of editing was brilliant.
I always enjoyed the editing process when I was in film class in school, more than filming and certainly more than writing. I had a transition between shots that I was really excited about, and when I showed my film to the class, the teacher complimented that transition while the film was playing. Probably my proudest moment in college. Well, getting a diploma was nice, too, I guess.
I'm an editor here in the Philippines, I learned a lot from this video. Editing is a skill that everyone can just have, you have to have that feel and creativity, an eye for perfection and details. Just my 2 cents worth. Thank you.
I loved that she did that. What an eye opening moment for an actor to give flowers to the editor. There was something about that moment that stick with me too.
Thank you so much for doing things like this and making them accessible to regular peeps like me who are just starting out or making films as a hobby. Alot of us cant go to Film School or buy every book that comes out. So thank you again. I hope that teaching others gives you great satisfaction
Thank you for putting this video together and thank you Steve for taking the time to chat. 'Art of the Cut' is a book you can never have read enough times.
Love videos like these. They help me speculate my philosophy on taking my self-educated states of stasis and give me new external ideas to exfoliate in ideology. I'm a professional actor, but I don't market professionally as my braces just came off. However, I've been learning and studying my craft in detail for about 8 years now and I'm consistently improving still to this day. It's rather nice to know that no matter how much you learn, you can always use your educated guesses to acquire different types of new. I love the process of using mediums cohesively in film because they allow for a synergy out of exponentiating art uniformly. I can add details from my life and add speculation to it while I'm immersed in the genius of ingenuity from multiple minds who specialize in perfecting their "one thing" to make one story told for real in reel form. It's the modern symphony to tell a movie in its tale told form.
I am in strange feelings... All my life I've admired some great movies and its film directors... And after this video, I realized that perhaps a significant part of the admiration should belong to the EDITORS of these great films!!?
This is fantastic information ahhhhhh thank you so much. Just about to cut together a music video, pretty forgiving work compared to these films but still, this will help so much thank you thank you thank you
God Bless you Sven. As a RUclipsr from Ghana, Your content is my opportunity to get exposed to ideas and people which I would otherwise not have. Thanks 🙏🏽 for all the lessons you teach us on Cutting.
Comming from a student cinematographer/editor; this is some real solid advice. The art of the cut is actually one of the books I am going to be studying in an upcoming course. I am looking forward to it more now.
the section explaining how showing the reaction to a line gives emotion and showing the character saying the line gives information is probably the greatest advice i've ever heard thus far
Can I just say how much i love your channel, you've come so sooo sooo far. Congrats! Learned a ton from you that I put to use when telling visual stories for my clients and editing them myself. :)
I enjoy watching videos on filmmaking and story telling, but I'm not in the industry and do not do so for a hobby. It just helps me be more conscious when watching films, understanding how they are put together, the hard work that is involved and the way a story comes to birth.
It would be nice to have a visual indicator when the interview is speaking, or some clear audible cue, especially since you cut them in so smooth and there is not a video of them speaking, at least in this video. Vox has these little click sounds (tape recorder like), or even waveforms. Anyway, my two cents, love this
Great video and i will join your class..I love editing..An your 10 lesson tips was right on time for me..Was trying to explain editing to someone and they said editing dont take that long..I just laughed and walked away.When we just tape 3 hours of interviews and 4 personal musical sections.So again thank for making this video.Truly needed to watch it to help me stay into editing and dont quite.
I'm a BA Editing Student in the UK. Loved this video, I religiously quote the Art of the cut when writing up my process. It is a truly fantastic book and would recommend it to anybody interested in editing.
I wrote, directed, and produced my first feature film. Everyone kept telling me to find an editor. I did it for months, but every editor I interviewed told me they could easily cut my movie into 90 minutes. I kept wondering, how do they know it will be 90 minutes? I was pleasantly surprised that the first lesson you discussed was the editor's ego.
They should have told you, "You and I will be able to get this to the perfect length for the story you're trying to tell..." 90 minutes is a great goal though for most films... :-)
even as an editor working in the industry for many years its great watching your tutorials. You can never stop learning and I like seeing other editors doing their job. Thanks for sharing these videos.
I have worked as a broadcast engineer for around 20 years with half of that being an editor. I am now working on making the transition into film. I have worked on a 24Hr. film fest project and a 48 hr. one. In a sense I am just starting out but have been in the industry a long time. I found this video very helpful.
Right now i'm learning editing and this is truly inspirational. I learn most of cinematography on youtube. I know all this thanks to channels like you. I started to do film school and now i'm more confident for all my projects
"editing is a process of revision".. I love that.. the word "Re Vision." Always a beautiful thing to remember you are re visiting, or re visioning an idea or concept of someone else. someone gives you a ball, give them back a shiny ball, or a smaller ball, or a different colored ball. don't give them a box and tell them people want to see edges.
Very interesting Thanks you guys. My fav tip is the On and Off voice if information or emotion. It never occure to me like that. That's the kind of stuff you do without thinking I guess but it's always good to summurize it so you can share it with other peeps :D
To be fair, that happens a lot when you don't do a master of your dialogue between scenes and, if you don't watch your settings, one small cut can overlap two different layers of audio and when you see it in the timeline you think " that wasn't like that" and you cut the audio without hearing it. Rest to say you always double check the final product.
@@joshhayes8240 How is it 'judgement and negativity' when the whole video is about how to edit correctly! - Its right that someone (sarcastically) highlights their flaws so that they can continue to improve. Only a male Karen would have an issue with this!
I had to comment here. So I got lucky working at a University and be friended a guy who is our main video editor, along with a few others, I’m not shy about that kinda stuff. I remember opening Premiere and being like “WTF!?!?” I was beyond overwhelmed and confused. Operating the camera, same. But the more and more I did it the easier it became and the better I got. Watching videos is also helpful. Great video man!!!
This is why i love the film business. Every single soul in a production has to keep their ego in check to make beautiful art and there's nothing more refreshing than that.
This is very educational for me. Because before i always admire actors that can act really well, i give them all the credits. But now that i am starting to create my own film, i get to dive deep into filmmaking and I'm able to see the important roll that the editor play, as well as the people behind the camera. Such talented people.
I have learned an incredible amount of information through these kind of RUclips videos. It has been really inspiring and I'm really grateful. And I have been trying to apply these techniques in my own videos.
I have honestly been watching a lot of your videos, i see a lot of growth each time you post, there is also relevance, i mean you pay attention and take your time. This comes out in your videos that you put time into them and they are doing well for all of us. Thank You. Well, i actually can attest to the fact that watching a lot of videos on various subjects does really help. I am a living testimony of that, being in Africa, comes with a lot of challenges in many ways. Watching these videos, i do not only learn but also with time get to develop a unique new ideas and understanding out of all the material. You read a lot, thanks for doing that because it kind of re-directs us to where the juice is comes from. Video can also seem like a shortcut for those who don't really like reading and spending time there in.
Hi, This Guy -- another great video. One suggestion: a card with a brief warning about violence in the first clips. 12 Years a Slave is startling and upsetting -- and rightly so.
You should probably give up giving advice on the internet if you want to be listened to. I realize it was well-meant though. Speaking of which, I meant that it's not fair to viewers looking for film editing tips to be suddenly confronted with bloody violence, without a warning first. The most positive thing about the internet is free choice.
Man, you've got to put some warning on here, it was really painful to just see that with no clue beforehand. Like even two second warning at first, or even just something in the description.
I'm absorbing all of this film content on RUclips specifically because I need it for upcoming projects. There's no better way to learn and retain then when you actually need to kinesthetically implement it in a couple of weeks!
Excellent short video on editing. This is what I do for my small business, and listening to this conversation points me in a direction that I never thought possible.
Why? They never made movies about blacks enslaving whites even though that event was far more brutal and worse, modern blacks don't even know their own history, their own sins. So why should any self respecting individual care about this?
This has to be the stupidest comment I have ever read. Slavery should be hard to watch at any point in time. Humanity has enslaved each other since we could walk and the point of movies are to reflect our own humanity back to us good and bad, slavery is part of that. I don't understand why it would be harder to watch given the political climate of America.
Is the Boy in the striped pajamas only hard for you to watch when neo nazis are in the news? History has happened and it can be awful but modern day politics or culture can change the context of our history.
Oh my beloved God,, I finally found my favourite channel in RUclips,, It brought tears to my eyes.. Thank you so muchhhhhh,,, God knows how long Im looking for a good editing channel.. I love this job so much... *Heart*
Thanks for this video. Yes, I have learned a lot about making films by watching a ton of RUclips videos. I’ve written a 24 page script for a short film and have almost got a cast and crew together to shoot it. All from just watching RUclips videos like yours, over the last three months! I love the editing side of things the most. Learning about the art of the cut is what I am most interested in. I can’t wait to get stuck in to post production and turn my vision into a reality!
This is one of the best videos you ever made Sven...thank you very much. I´ll keep with this: you, practicing (learning and doing), are going to improve...and develop your talent on this...and start to make right choices more oftenly in your editing...developing your own method...choices and method wich you´re going to explain others when you suceed! 👊😄
Really great tips! As a guerilla director/editor, often my client's opinion ends up serving as my "director," in terms of delivering what they want. In order to get there, my opinion as an editor is the key to coaxing that out of the client, always better to cut and present than to try to describe. I want to create something that will engage the audience. So when I edit, their experience with the material is more important than my desire to show off, or even to try to tailor something to what I think my client thinks they're after. The end result is key, and all of the tips in this video are important toward helping any project reach its potential. One thing: A lot of vlogs end up with this same issue: I didn't like the level the music was mixed in at. It was distracting, or sometimes just in the way. Your voiceover is 1000% more important than your stock music. The music helps to keep me engaged, except when it plain bowls over this video, overpowering both the voiceover and even the images. Other than that, the content is outstanding!
I hope that didn't sound petty, like I think my opinion is "all seeing/all knowing." HUGE thanks for these videos! Watching them, and more like it, or just a quick click-through review, are one of my favourite ways to start a day of editing. That said... Time for me to get back to work... Cheers
I love the bit about Arrival. While a lot of editing advice is focused on cutting and dwindling the scene down, sometimes the best thing to do for the story is to extend or even create a moment in the edit. The "Film School" mentality is often to try to make things shorter and shorter, but there's a reason that Slow-Motion exists - sometimes the best thing to do is to slow down.
I learned by getting thrown into the fire. The truth is the story is created in the edit room. We editors rearrange scenes all the time from the directors cut especially when music is involved. Editing creates a rhythm and a motion between scenes and by extending a scene a few extra frames I can draw the viewers eye into the spot needed for the next scene.
I've watched a few of your videos. I both edit and shoot. New subscriber - even though Ive been doing this 10 years now, I'm a fiend for continuously learning. Great content my man.
....I came across this video purely by chance....and its the best one i have ever seen....i am learning editting and now i know where to take myself in this world of the Cut....thank you....
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The Skillshare ad was worked in well, but the pop up youtube ads bothered me... it bothers me on other videos too, but on an editing video it's particularly jarring when an ad pops up in the middle of a sentence/thought. I know there is a way to control how many ads are on a video, but is there a way to control exactly where they pop up so you can space them more like you would TV commercials, where there is a natural pause?
i hear you. unfortunately without the ads, youtube has very little incentive to recommend the video and views fizzle fast.
It's not that there are ads though, it's that they aren't placed well. Why can't they give you an exact point to add it, for instance, in this video, between points?
Your videos makes me better and better every time, thank you, I surely get this book
i went back in and reconfigured the ad placements. so they are now in between lessons. thank you for pointing that out.
I don't do any editing, nor do I plan to! But watching this channel really helps you to appreciate films more, thanks!
I don't edit, but love it as a window into the creative process of professionals in general
Me too!
The amazing thing is that when the editing is good, you don't even realize its happened.
I don't edit either. My friend is a brilliant editor. I rarely need to do it. But these videos give me some intellectual kicks! 🥂
Same for me. Thank you! :)
Hearing him say that learning through RUclips works really keeps my hopes up.
It does work! Never disregard it, until you look into it. When I am stuck, I can usually find SOME answer, or even just re-listen to the type of advice in this video. Even if a concrete answer to my issue isn't floating around online, remembering what the process is and what it does can amp me up to get back to it and tackle my projects.
Nothing beats actually doing it. Experience is king.
@Dixit Dominus, I love your profile photo. Year Walk is one of my favourite games ever.
Doesn't matter what source you're learning from nearly as much as how you implement what you're learning.
yeah it is true tho, i taught myself to edit from youtube when i was pretty young, this website is great for learning new skills and you'd be pretty surprised at how easy it is with a little research
Great video! Here's a breakdown of what I took from each lesson,
1. Know when NOT to cut. Be present and keep your ego in check.
2. Edit to what YOU want. The director will come later and make changes.
3. Trust the process, your changes will be addressed if the film requires.
4. Be a collaborator.
5. Editing is a process of REVISION. You'll need to go back and edit what you edit.
6. Organization = editing. Compartmentalize the smaller chunks.
7. How do you make it as an editor? JUST START EDITING. Cut what you can, as often as possible.
8. Ask yourself, how does your scene affect the overall story? Make adjustments to keep it cohesive.
9. Use reaction shots wisely. Usually it's more interesting to show who's listening rather than who's speaking.
10. Study the why during editing. Make choices intuitively but know the analytical reason why you cut it that way in the first place.
Thanks for the summary.
Thanks, was just trying to go back for the 2nd and couldn't find the place in the vid.
Thank you for your service.
I'd add another one just from that magnificent intro. Pay attention ... See how Ejiofor's feet dug a hole. (Maybe from reshooting and all ...) A man really trying to survive, would shovel dirt from the curvature of the hole he created back into the crator (This also intensifies the whole length of the rope detail. Just enough to stay alive, not enough to stay alive after digging a hole.). Now instead of majestic, which it is, it becomes a matter of life and death. Some might say this is stepping on the director's toes. I say it's a collaborative medium. You notice something. You talk. The director tells you to f off? You comply and you don't feel like betraying the art.
I'd add that 9 was about how showing who is listening (the reaction) is commonly known to be better, but sometimes you have to break that rule and show the full line being delievered when it's important and you want it to stick.
The added vfx in Arrival to make the dream sequence work was genius! It’s such a mundane scene but then the addition of the alien makes it so trippy and surreal.
The director seems to like having surreal multi-limbed creatures in small rooms shown in his films.
"You gotta keep your ego in check."
"Houston, we got a problem."
Thanks for this both informative, fantastic and sometimes hilarious edit. You da man.
I liked the Don't try, do it" while showing Yoda telling Luke "do it or do not, there is no try".
That was incredibly interesting! Nicely done mate 👍
Didn't expect to see you down in the comments!
The mindhunter scene really made me understand the importance of reaction shots and their effects on emotion. Quality content.
Reaction shots are a HUGE factor in almost every scene in Mindhunter. When interrogating or interviewing prospective and certain serial killers, seeing their subject's reaction tells you much about the man. The second season Bill Tench communicates with Holden almost entirely through his facial expressions. David Fincher really is an intelligent Director and his editor is incredible.
Great video. One criticism: it's not clear to me who the two people speaking throughout the video are.
Yeah, it was a bit confusing. He said he interviewed a bunch of people so I assumed it was them? But they alternate between who's talking and come with small comments and then a skillshare ad? It honestly feels like this originally was a podcast that then got made into a video.
It was such a great editing😂😂😂
sound designer is important too...🤣😂😂😂😂
I had to put on subtitles to understand who's being interviewed and who's the youtuber.
Ah...listen to the accent, guys.
Nice video.
Damn that Mindhunter scene is brilliant
On the other hand, I can't really imagine it wasn't in the script. You can't just pull off a twist like that in a story, the reactions are vital. No?
@@kristofermens It isn't uncommon for actors to get different pages. It's totally possible Holden's lines as written on the pages given to the local cops was a boilerplate interview. Of course, there's no way these were the first reaction shots, but planting that seed of authentic reactions to the unexpected becomes a tool for the actor(s) to return to in subsequent takes.
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Can’t believe I watched this for free
This is nothing compared to what professional editors have learned.
It's merely the tip of the iceberg.
But it is pretty inspiring and I'm amazed I get to take notes from history's greatests.
Yup. True pros, especially in Hollywood never give up thier top secrets, unless those secrets and tricks are already outdated by atleast a decade.
"the invisible performer in the editing room"... I love it!
I think another important part for any person in this industry (including editors) is to always have an answer to the question of "WHY?". If somebody asks why did you cut there or why you shot like that, you shouldn't answer "because I felt that was needed", you should always have a clear (sometimes analytical answer) explaining WHY. Always be prepared to have answers to that question as you start your day and you'll do fine.
I completely disagree.
If you listen to most of the greates editors(and artists) most of them go with their gut feeling.
So much of art is impossible to put into words.
Analytical answers are for the studio bosses to ruin movies and feel better about themselves.
If we analysed ever cut alot of great classical cuts wouldn't have been made.
I am sure professionals do have their reasons as to why they do something (editing, getting certain shots, etc.). It's not uncommon for them to find it hard explaining the reasoning behind their own action. Also, remember that they are mostly learning by doing, trial and error, see what fits and what doesn't. It takes time to put everything they have learned into words that everyone, even the most clueless ones, can understand.
15:49 in this video
@kshamwhizzle and generally speaking, you're not going to be sitting in the editor's seat without already first having built up a repertoire with the director to where they trust your judgement. If you're an assistant trying to bank on your "gut feeling" yeah, that's not going to wash. Trust me, directors can spot a good editor who understands rhythm and timing in where they choose to make their edit and they can spot a bs-er who doesn't know squat about shot composition and continuity.
I absolutely agree. It is an important aspect of-in my case-being a graphic designer. If you can explain why you've done something a certain way or speak your case, the client is more likely to see it from your side if your arguments are sound. Telling someone that you did something because you just felt like it is going to convince very few people.
Im kinda new into editing and have watched TONS of tutorials on how editing works. I've learned a few technical tricks here and there. However, this video right here gave me a completely different depth and approach to how to actually get the storytelling, emotions and reactions on the audience side of the story. Thanks! Subscribed.
either you're a storyteller or you aren't. That's the difference. Tutorials don't teach you discernment of video---that is learned through the doing of editing and studying under professionals.
Jakob, are you still editing? how is it going now?
read "in the blink of an eye"
You must be pro now in editing
Nice interview with lots of great insight. I'm in the editing process now on a doc film and this was helpful.
Same! :D
I'm not an editor and I enjoy watching analytical videos that teach me storytelling. Those storytelling skills I'm then using for communication and games that I'm making.
Really love that comment on just getting out there shooting with what you have and where you are ability wise. As you do your brain begins to recognise the process of whatever you are doing eventually progressing.
Maybe.
I’m a feature film editor and I love this video. It makes me feel: “Yes, it’s exactly like this!” Thanks!
13:30 - I think this one is possibly my favorite lesson from this. I've always thought of how quick you cut in a conversation contradicts the pacing but then I never thought of using lines on or off camera to create an emotion or give information. Love it.
I really should be doing my stuff right now, but I thought it would be nice to leave some insights here.
TIMELINE:
1. 2:21 Keep your ego in check
2. 4:18 Trust the process - accepting that learning takes time
3. 5:58 Bad ideas lead to good ideas - experimenting with absurd ideas
4. 8:05 Editing is editing - having dynamics in rhythm
5. 9:46 Organization - figuring out what can be ignored
6. 10:53 Just edit
7. 11:23 Beware of how edits affect the story
8. 13:09 Beware of reactions
*13:51
Line delivery:
Over = information
Off = emotion
9. 15:48 Study the process - not intuition but accumulation of experience and objective ideas
10. When not to cut
*some of the titles here were too vague so I included paraphrases and explanations
Most important part here is #8 imo. This video is more like the philosophy of film than a textbook to guide you through fairly specific details of editing. Also, the way they made a podcast and edited it into a narrative of editing was brilliant.
This is what I mean by "textbook" -> ruclips.net/video/XXwwn-palUQ/видео.html
One of the things I have come to appreciate are TV. commercials. They tell a complete story and/or communicate an idea is a short period of time.
I always enjoyed the editing process when I was in film class in school, more than filming and certainly more than writing. I had a transition between shots that I was really excited about, and when I showed my film to the class, the teacher complimented that transition while the film was playing. Probably my proudest moment in college. Well, getting a diploma was nice, too, I guess.
I'm an editor here in the Philippines, I learned a lot from this video. Editing is a skill that everyone can just have, you have to have that feel and creativity, an eye for perfection and details. Just my 2 cents worth. Thank you.
A Superb Editing Masterclass! 👌
I loved that she did that. What an eye opening moment for an actor to give flowers to the editor. There was something about that moment that stick with me too.
Thank you so much for doing things like this and making them accessible to regular peeps like me who are just starting out or making films as a hobby. Alot of us cant go to Film School or buy every book that comes out. So thank you again. I hope that teaching others gives you great satisfaction
Thank you for putting this video together and thank you Steve for taking the time to chat. 'Art of the Cut' is a book you can never have read enough times.
Please give the book a review on Amazon for me! I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
Always good to hear from Steve Hullfish. He has such a breadth of knowledge.
Love videos like these. They help me speculate my philosophy on taking my self-educated states of stasis and give me new external ideas to exfoliate in ideology. I'm a professional actor, but I don't market professionally as my braces just came off. However, I've been learning and studying my craft in detail for about 8 years now and I'm consistently improving still to this day. It's rather nice to know that no matter how much you learn, you can always use your educated guesses to acquire different types of new. I love the process of using mediums cohesively in film because they allow for a synergy out of exponentiating art uniformly. I can add details from my life and add speculation to it while I'm immersed in the genius of ingenuity from multiple minds who specialize in perfecting their "one thing" to make one story told for real in reel form. It's the modern symphony to tell a movie in its tale told form.
Essential watching for directors as well as editors.
nah, not so much....
I am in strange feelings... All my life I've admired some great movies and its film directors... And after this video, I realized that perhaps a significant part of the admiration should belong to the EDITORS of these great films!!?
This is fantastic information ahhhhhh thank you so much. Just about to cut together a music video, pretty forgiving work compared to these films but still, this will help so much thank you thank you thank you
Howard Wimshurst hey Howard haha
a familiar face!
God Bless you Sven. As a RUclipsr from Ghana, Your content is my opportunity to get exposed to ideas and people which I would otherwise not have. Thanks 🙏🏽 for all the lessons you teach us on Cutting.
wow i love the idea of saying a line on camera or off camera, that is powerful
Love the simple effect of the cut on the gunshot and a cowboy getting hit with an arrow. Great channel. Helps me grow as a shooter.
Comming from a student cinematographer/editor; this is some real solid advice. The art of the cut is actually one of the books I am going to be studying in an upcoming course. I am looking forward to it more now.
The way you even edited this video was wow, the way you grabbed our attention immediately with the scene you started this video with
I'm only on the beginning cusps of editing but I'm a huge nerd about it. Thank you so much for making this fantastic video! I learned a lot.
the section explaining how showing the reaction to a line gives emotion and showing the character saying the line gives information is probably the greatest advice i've ever heard thus far
Can I just say how much i love your channel, you've come so sooo sooo far. Congrats! Learned a ton from you that I put to use when telling visual stories for my clients and editing them myself. :)
I enjoy watching videos on filmmaking and story telling, but I'm not in the industry and do not do so for a hobby. It just helps me be more conscious when watching films, understanding how they are put together, the hard work that is involved and the way a story comes to birth.
It would be nice to have a visual indicator when the interview is speaking, or some clear audible cue, especially since you cut them in so smooth and there is not a video of them speaking, at least in this video. Vox has these little click sounds (tape recorder like), or even waveforms. Anyway, my two cents, love this
I’ve never done editing nor do I plan on. But videos like these make you realise how important it is & the amount of work & thought that goes into it
Great video and i will join your class..I love editing..An your 10 lesson tips was right on time for me..Was trying to explain editing to someone and they said editing dont take that long..I just laughed and walked away.When we just tape 3 hours of interviews and 4 personal musical sections.So again thank for making this video.Truly needed to watch it to help me stay into editing and dont quite.
I'm a BA Editing Student in the UK. Loved this video, I religiously quote the Art of the cut when writing up my process. It is a truly fantastic book and would recommend it to anybody interested in editing.
I wrote, directed, and produced my first feature film. Everyone kept telling me to find an editor. I did it for months, but every editor I interviewed told me they could easily cut my movie into 90 minutes. I kept wondering, how do they know it will be 90 minutes? I was pleasantly surprised that the first lesson you discussed was the editor's ego.
They should have told you, "You and I will be able to get this to the perfect length for the story you're trying to tell..." 90 minutes is a great goal though for most films... :-)
even as an editor working in the industry for many years its great watching your tutorials. You can never stop learning and I like seeing other editors doing their job. Thanks for sharing these videos.
"Editing is like a puzzle"-my quote
I have worked as a broadcast engineer for around 20 years with half of that being an editor. I am now working on making the transition into film. I have worked on a 24Hr. film fest project and a 48 hr. one. In a sense I am just starting out but have been in the industry a long time. I found this video very helpful.
Trust the Process - " Learn it. Know it. Live it." ~ Brad Hamilton
Love how you lead all your interviews, and the quality of information you are bringing to RUclips man. That was great!!
I salute those editor's who responsible for great movie
Right now i'm learning editing and this is truly inspirational. I learn most of cinematography on youtube. I know all this thanks to channels like you. I started to do film school and now i'm more confident for all my projects
Thanks man!
Woah Pierre, Crazy to see your comment here.
@@tttamas yeah yeah ikr
"editing is a process of revision".. I love that.. the word "Re Vision." Always a beautiful thing to remember you are re visiting, or re visioning an idea or concept of someone else. someone gives you a ball, give them back a shiny ball, or a smaller ball, or a different colored ball. don't give them a box and tell them people want to see edges.
Very interesting
Thanks you guys. My fav tip is the On and Off voice if information or emotion. It never occure to me like that. That's the kind of stuff you do without thinking I guess but it's always good to summurize it so you can share it with other peeps :D
Your channel doing something that non of the channel on RUclips does. Thanks man.
11:27 great editing
Lmao, that was brutal
To be fair, that happens a lot when you don't do a master of your dialogue between scenes and, if you don't watch your settings, one small cut can overlap two different layers of audio and when you see it in the timeline you think " that wasn't like that" and you cut the audio without hearing it.
Rest to say you always double check the final product.
someone spends a ton of time on a video, provides insight, etc... and the only thing you have to add to the conversation is judgement and negativity.
@@joshhayes8240 How is it 'judgement and negativity' when the whole video is about how to edit correctly! - Its right that someone (sarcastically) highlights their flaws so that they can continue to improve. Only a male Karen would have an issue with this!
dude, not necessary
I like what you said: “storytelling is a muscle”. I feel that’s what i need at the moment, is to be a better storyteller. Thank you 🙏🏼
There is a misspelling in the thumbnail. There is 'Editng' without the second 'i'.
I'm curious if you actually never noticed :P
I didn't. 🙂
@@ethanhester2603 That's the first thing that I noticed when I saw the thumbnail. And then I realized the video is 2 years old lol
Honestly the most valuable video i’ve seen on editing, great things are coming.
Great edit!
This is gold! An editing masterclass in less than 20mins. Thank you for posting videos like this. 👌👌👌
This was so good!
I had to comment here. So I got lucky working at a University and be friended a guy who is our main video editor, along with a few others, I’m not shy about that kinda stuff. I remember opening Premiere and being like “WTF!?!?” I was beyond overwhelmed and confused. Operating the camera, same. But the more and more I did it the easier it became and the better I got. Watching videos is also helpful. Great video man!!!
I make RUclips vids on writing stories. The same principles to editing the writing apply. Fantastic vid!🤓
Check out one of my videos if your interested in writing.
you're just self advertising
@@ChallengeMonsters Yep. Hollywood advertise their movies themselves, so I thought I'd follow their lead.
This is why i love the film business. Every single soul in a production has to keep their ego in check to make beautiful art and there's nothing more refreshing than that.
I am happy I've found you
I'm equally happy :)
Instantly my fav channel now. Thanks, man. Keep up.
Seeing roy scheider at the end of the video was great!! All that jazz is a masterpiece that is kinda missing from our libraries. Thank you for that
such a pity I could not watch this video to the end and now had to miss Roy Scheider. Shall I watch this video after all till the end? Hell no.
What if you are a filmmaker who is the Director and also an editor too? I want to advance my editing skills.
pick one and develop it. Don't be a jack of all trades--because you'll never be good at all of them.
This is very educational for me. Because before i always admire actors that can act really well, i give them all the credits. But now that i am starting to create my own film, i get to dive deep into filmmaking and I'm able to see the important roll that the editor play, as well as the people behind the camera. Such talented people.
What a great channel! I can't say enough. Thanks for all the amazing info to help us get better at what we want to do. - FresYES Lawn Dude
I have learned an incredible amount of information through these kind of RUclips videos. It has been really inspiring and I'm really grateful.
And I have been trying to apply these techniques in my own videos.
so, does any wanna work together on a film? im willing to just work for experience
Where you from bud, shoot me an email. avizephyra@azuniverse.studio
Lets do it. Seriously
@@avizephyra can I join?
I want to join too
HaydenApplePie Im 100% up for this
I have honestly been watching a lot of your videos, i see a lot of growth each time you post, there is also relevance, i mean you pay attention and take your time. This comes out in your videos that you put time into them and they are doing well for all of us. Thank You. Well, i actually can attest to the fact that watching a lot of videos on various subjects does really help. I am a living testimony of that, being in Africa, comes with a lot of challenges in many ways. Watching these videos, i do not only learn but also with time get to develop a unique new ideas and understanding out of all the material. You read a lot, thanks for doing that because it kind of re-directs us to where the juice is comes from. Video can also seem like a shortcut for those who don't really like reading and spending time there in.
Hi, This Guy -- another great video.
One suggestion: a card with a brief warning about violence in the first clips. 12 Years a Slave is startling and upsetting -- and rightly so.
You should probably get off the internet if you don't want to see stuff that makes you uncomfortable
You should probably give up giving advice on the internet if you want to be listened to. I realize it was well-meant though.
Speaking of which, I meant that it's not fair to viewers looking for film editing tips to be suddenly confronted with bloody violence, without a warning first. The most positive thing about the internet is free choice.
@@floraposteschild4184 You should probably stop being a baby if you don't want people to think you're a baby
The video is called "10 Lessons from the Top Film Editors" not "Callous Torture of a Human Being"
@@floraposteschild4184 Agreed
The interrogation scene with the detective shots is genius!! He was the scene’s “straight man” and it works really well
Man, you've got to put some warning on here, it was really painful to just see that with no clue beforehand. Like even two second warning at first, or even just something in the description.
Brilliant! Your intro gave me chills....really enjoyed watching, and learning all about editing!
*Results may vary.. Hahaha
I'm absorbing all of this film content on RUclips specifically because I need it for upcoming projects. There's no better way to learn and retain then when you actually need to kinesthetically implement it in a couple of weeks!
could you edit out all these ads
I could, but then you wouldn't have seen this video, because without ads RUclips has zero incentive to recommend it to you.
In the age of Netflixes and HBOs it 's easy to forget that free streaming services need money as well.
Excellent short video on editing. This is what I do for my small business, and listening to this conversation points me in a direction that I never thought possible.
oof, the opening is a hard watch given current events.
I don't think it could ever not be a hard watch.
What happened two months ago?
Why? They never made movies about blacks enslaving whites even though that event was far more brutal and worse, modern blacks don't even know their own history, their own sins. So why should any self respecting individual care about this?
This has to be the stupidest comment I have ever read. Slavery should be hard to watch at any point in time. Humanity has enslaved each other since we could walk and the point of movies are to reflect our own humanity back to us good and bad, slavery is part of that. I don't understand why it would be harder to watch given the political climate of America.
Is the Boy in the striped pajamas only hard for you to watch when neo nazis are in the news? History has happened and it can be awful but modern day politics or culture can change the context of our history.
Oh my beloved God,, I finally found my favourite channel in RUclips,, It brought tears to my eyes.. Thank you so muchhhhhh,,, God knows how long Im looking for a good editing channel.. I love this job so much... *Heart*
Thanks for taking the time to put this together, loved it!
Standing ovation for this video and this channel.
Thanks for this video. Yes, I have learned a lot about making films by watching a ton of RUclips videos. I’ve written a 24 page script for a short film and have almost got a cast and crew together to shoot it. All from just watching RUclips videos like yours, over the last three months! I love the editing side of things the most. Learning about the art of the cut is what I am most interested in. I can’t wait to get stuck in to post production and turn my vision into a reality!
This has to be one of my favorite RUclips videos of all time
This is one of the best videos you ever made Sven...thank you very much. I´ll keep with this: you, practicing (learning and doing), are going to improve...and develop your talent on this...and start to make right choices more oftenly in your editing...developing your own method...choices and method wich you´re going to explain others when you suceed! 👊😄
Really great tips! As a guerilla director/editor, often my client's opinion ends up serving as my "director," in terms of delivering what they want. In order to get there, my opinion as an editor is the key to coaxing that out of the client, always better to cut and present than to try to describe. I want to create something that will engage the audience. So when I edit, their experience with the material is more important than my desire to show off, or even to try to tailor something to what I think my client thinks they're after. The end result is key, and all of the tips in this video are important toward helping any project reach its potential.
One thing: A lot of vlogs end up with this same issue: I didn't like the level the music was mixed in at. It was distracting, or sometimes just in the way. Your voiceover is 1000% more important than your stock music. The music helps to keep me engaged, except when it plain bowls over this video, overpowering both the voiceover and even the images.
Other than that, the content is outstanding!
I hope that didn't sound petty, like I think my opinion is "all seeing/all knowing." HUGE thanks for these videos! Watching them, and more like it, or just a quick click-through review, are one of my favourite ways to start a day of editing. That said... Time for me to get back to work... Cheers
I love the bit about Arrival. While a lot of editing advice is focused on cutting and dwindling the scene down, sometimes the best thing to do for the story is to extend or even create a moment in the edit. The "Film School" mentality is often to try to make things shorter and shorter, but there's a reason that Slow-Motion exists - sometimes the best thing to do is to slow down.
I’ve been editing since ‘05 but i still learn alot from this. Great stuff👌👍
I mentor my actor/students on "the importance of bringing gifts for the editor". This was a great vid. THANK you.
OMG this is by far the best youtube place for editors and solo directors too!
I learned by getting thrown into the fire. The truth is the story is created in the edit room. We editors rearrange scenes all the time from the directors cut especially when music is involved. Editing creates a rhythm and a motion between scenes and by extending a scene a few extra frames I can draw the viewers eye into the spot needed for the next scene.
I've watched a few of your videos. I both edit and shoot. New subscriber - even though Ive been doing this 10 years now, I'm a fiend for continuously learning. Great content my man.
❤️I started as a mobile editor to make my own short films... I'm a kid that needs to learn along... Thank you guys... Very well done❤️
....I came across this video purely by chance....and its the best one i have ever seen....i am learning editting and now i know where to take myself in this world of the Cut....thank you....
I love the observation you make about the importance of keeping an open mindset in the editing process!