My mom used to work for a local news station. She did all that video tape editing stuff, and she finds it really cool how things are done these days. My, how times change.
The first practical video tape recorder actually marketed to networks and television stations was released in 1956 by Ampex corporation. This format became the world standard for videotape for nearly 30 years. One of these machines is shown at 4:14 in this video. It used 2" wide tape and employed a headwheel spinning at over 14,000 rpm to record the TV picture in 17 (scan) line segments across the width of the tape from top to bottom (shown at 4:24), therefore making it possible to do cut and splice editing (nearly analogous to film editing) by cutting between the right tracks as described.
Oh so just the days before dvr. Yeah my childhood was pretty much just mainly vhs tapes and then spongebob and such as I got older. I still remember when we got our first dvr I thought it was so cool lol
+bobtheman1y Hahaha wtf is that sound even lmao. Aahhh just hearing it makes me laugh what a stupid sound it is hahaha. It sounds a bit like a baby not not completely. Like a baby without context..
Great breakdown. Only one thing missing: In the 50s and 60s, they would often time reserve a monitor just for a film camera that would film the video on the screen. That is how we have at least SOME of what was aired live available for the archives now.
@@rty1955 Oh absolutely! I have a film degree and we worked in 16mm. Totally agreed. Just sad that that is all we have left. Thanks for reminding me of the name.
I got to use Avid while in college and during an internship at Montana PBS, and I loved it. I have to use Velocity ESX at work, and while it gets the job done, it leaves a lot to be desired.
+Woo Yay G is one letter from the word graphic. It's not GrIF it's gif and there are many ways you can pronounce a G so it's not wrong to pronounce it as jif. Sounds better too.
More about the splicing. You can't see the splices on professional films. They made edit lists and perhaps cut the negatives and made positives. Would like to see a little more detail on that. I've made some Super 8 films and the splices, while clear, tend to attract dust and dirt, and sometimes don't go smoothly through the projector. So I'm curious how the pros did it.
Cool quick history of moving pics. Thanks. In 1987 in Santa Barbara CA I produced a network TV series on 1 inch and 3/4 inch videotape which could only be edited a few generations down. VHS 1/2 inch tape can only be edited about 3 generations down before it is all washed out (a copy from the original is one generation, then a copy from that copy is the second generation etc). BUT, in 1987 the studio switched to digital editing and then we could edit an unlimited number of generations and never loose any quality since it was all digital. The copies came out as good as the original. Awesome technology that allowed editors to now do things that were impossible before (massive multiple layered effects etc).
If you're interested in the history of filmography. You've got to watch the film "Hugo". The Lumiere brothers is mentioned and George Melies is a striking plot protagonist.
I think this video could have added the significance of things such as Apple, modems, internet, all the way to youtube to show how the video industry really exploded. The series of products and factors are what made video editing such a crucial tool nowadays.
+Because I'm Batman! Overlays. Quite literally. Hence the term like cutting used to mean literally cutting the clip. I bet it was fun being an editor back then. Screw it up and bye bye original negative! Back to the soundstage!
The amount of space required to harbor "cutting room floors" must have gotten quite out of hand. I love hearing how quickly mankind finds "innovative solutions" to problems that resonate in inconvenience.
+NIKHIL PANDEY - HOW TO & GFX Starring: Jay Paul Linus Kyle Also Starring: Gif guy Gif woman Jif guy Jif woman Judge Innocent Boy 1 Innocent Boy 2 Innocent Girl 1 Innocent Girl 2 Pilot Captain
+Blair Burton (0rgoner) how ever a very large majority of people say GIF (Hard G) so there for it would be hard G sound considering that. also it stands for Graphics interchange Format so why would it be Jif?
Actually, there was a way of saving live-broadcast TV shows for later use. If you were alive and aware in the early/mid 1950's and had a TV set and watched it. You would sometimes hear, at the end of a program "This has been a Kinescope recording". This was used to save and rebroadcast live shows in a different timezone. Nowadays, if you want to buy some of the classic TV shows like SPACE PATROL or TOM CORBETT: SPACE CADET that were broadcast live, you can, These shows were Kinescoped and saved and then some smart enterpeneur, like "Cadet" Bruce David (Swapsale) put them on VHS cand sells them. These shows are making their way to digital media as well. We owe all of this to Kinescope This was done by training a film camera on a video monitor that was receiving a feed from the video cameras and recording. RUclips has shows that were live-broadcast as early as 1948, such as HOWDY DOODY and a roller derby game. SPACE PATROL won several industry awards for choreography and in-camera special effects. It helped that they inheritied a huge stage and 3 video cameras. I am a rock keyboardist going back to the days of the Vox and Farfisa "empires" of the late 1960's, and in 2003, the Star of SP, Ed Kemmer, and I had a discussion about the facts of life of the electic/electronic stage
Television images WERE recorded be for the advent of video tape. The process was known as "kinescope" about basically it involved aiming a motion picture film camera synchronized to the frame rate of the television image. Of course the end product was "film" not "video" but it did allow later broadcast of the video content. (by aiming a video camera at a motion picture film screen)
AHhh, you beat me to it! I was just about to make that same observation and point out that Kinescope films were used to record live-television back in the fifties, till tape took over. Thumbs up!
HArd drives don't store data in binary. The smallest recorded unit is a sector. complex signal processing is then used to approximate bits with error correction code. Bit patterned recording is part of what will actually make hard drives go up to 100TB in capacity eventually.
Thankfully Linus gives the creator credit for naming his work GIF and pronouncing it properly. Whenever someone says it with a "hard" G, it sounds like they were going to say something longer but then hiccuped halfway through. Choosy moms choose GIF.
Actually the first "non-linear" editing system was known as the Montage. It had system in which drove 14 VHS machines with identical footage on each VHS tape. The software would select the VHS machine that had the timecode nearest to the timecode wanted for the next edit. It was very cumbersome and costly. The Avid came after that. We had one of the first Avid machines in the country in Boston (Avid is located outside of Boston) as at post house I worked at during the late 80s/early 90s.
Don't forget the EditDroid. Unlike the Montage Lucasfilm and their subsidiary Droid Works used consumer grade Betamax machines. I installed a "loaner" EditDroid at Burbank California post house Rock Solid Productions in the late 1980s. Like other systems attempting to use Betamax, VHS, or tape based systems as random access sources it was a very inelegant and unsatisfactory system. Further these systems were strictly limited to offline editing.
Muybridge probably isn't the first to animate pictures. Back in ancient China, they have already been drawing "frames" on rotating lanterns powered by rising hot air from the candle inside, called 走马灯 (Literal translation: Walking Horse Landern) in nobilities and royalties' homes for entertainment and decoration.
Question for Techquickie. Obviously cutting the videotape would result a sound edit .7 of a second later than the vision cut, which would be unacceptable, so how did we manage to mix the sound over the edit point all those years ago? We didn’t have erase delay back then either, so how did we also make sure there wasn’t a hole in the sound?
Many shows were physically cute. I used to edit 2" tape by cutting. No shows were completely recorded on disks like you suggestb rarher ONLY edot sections were placed on disk (and only in b&w) this was the CMX-600 system (i wirked on that) the result was an 8" floppy that contained the Edit Decision List (EDL) I worked at the largest post facility in the east coast. Ask me anything about the quad tape machines
OMG OMFG OMFG YOU JUST DID A TECHQUICKIE ABOUT ASPECT RATIO THE WEEK EARLIER !! THE FUCKING WEEK EARLIER!!! AND YOU HAVE STUFF HERE WITH THE wrong ASPECT RATIO!!!!! WHAT THE GODDAMN DAG-GUM BY GOLLY!!! DanRant done.
***** It would be awesome if he they include "GeForce, Quadro, Tesla and Tegra" for Nvidia and "Radeon, FirePro" and whatever they have in their respective video.
That NLE computer sounds very interresting,well yeah but the resolution and frame rate had to be cut down into halve ,but even then anno 2016,the original frames can be retrieved trough motion interpolation,the original color range can be retrieved trough color blending while the original resolution can be retrieved trough sharpening & HD scaling,so edited films from 1989 should be remastered that way for release on blue ray.
My mom used to work for a local news station. She did all that video tape editing stuff, and she finds it really cool how things are done these days. My, how times change.
:D Time flies by like a bullet to the eye
+SquidPlays I am now afraid to be hit by time.
+Christian Ernst I'm now eager to make time bullets
+LazerLord10 Have you shown her how premiere works?
+LazerLord10 There'll be some cool kids in the future laughing at the Core i7 6700K on your Desk :-D
Imagine editing a RUclips video the old school way :-/
nearly impossible
:)
id like be about to kill myself if i had to do it the old way
didn't expect you hear
Taran wouldn't need so many macros
it's like film school all over again
Which film school did you attend?
@@mylesbell2398 homie the comment was 5 yrs ago
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@@francislancero69420bro now it's 7yrs 😢
How much bridge? Muybridge.
HOAX HOTEL!!!!
How long bridge? Lumbridge.
+The Hoax Hotel Muchpuente
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The video editors did an amazing job editing this video.
Underrated.
The first practical video tape recorder actually marketed to networks and television stations was released in 1956 by Ampex corporation. This format became the world standard for videotape for nearly 30 years. One of these machines is shown at 4:14 in this video. It used 2" wide tape and employed a headwheel spinning at over 14,000 rpm to record the TV picture in 17 (scan) line segments across the width of the tape from top to bottom (shown at 4:24), therefore making it possible to do cut and splice editing (nearly analogous to film editing) by cutting between the right tracks as described.
This is the best video (editing wise) that has been made on this channel.
Of course. A few million subs combined on Linus Media Group= Awesome vids
+SquidPlays they have better vids on their main channek
Jibblly Jams You DON'T say.
+SquidPlays... Shush
Montage wise* editing still lacks color correction, and the motion graphics/effects are really crappy, even by quickie standards.
This was pretty cool.
Wow, I wonder how big your channel was 5 years ago!
Thank you for this, Linus! Very well done! And Merry Christmas from the Philippines!
Im so amazed on how far we have came, I honestly respect the old school methods alot💯
3:47 to 3:53, story of my childhood.
+Ganaram Inukshuk wat...
+CapitaL couldn't record tv shows back then
+Ganaram Inukshuk How old are you?
Oh so just the days before dvr. Yeah my childhood was pretty much just mainly vhs tapes and then spongebob and such as I got older. I still remember when we got our first dvr I thought it was so cool lol
+CapitaL Dvr, or VHS. Or beta-max. Or Laserdisk. Or videocassette.
That squeaking sound effect at 0:15 is my Facebook notification sound. I thought I was popular for a second.
+bobtheman1y I thought of MLP when I heard it .
+bobtheman1y Hahaha wtf is that sound even lmao. Aahhh just hearing it makes me laugh what a stupid sound it is hahaha.
It sounds a bit like a baby not not completely. Like a baby without context..
mhuizingh92 ruclips.net/video/UndAZAdASwQ/видео.html
+bobtheman1y Maybe that's why you're unpopular. Change yo damn sound.
Do you still use Facebook?
Great breakdown. Only one thing missing: In the 50s and 60s, they would often time reserve a monitor just for a film camera that would film the video on the screen. That is how we have at least SOME of what was aired live available for the archives now.
They are called kinescope and VERY inferior to original film
@@rty1955 Oh absolutely! I have a film degree and we worked in 16mm. Totally agreed. Just sad that that is all we have left. Thanks for reminding me of the name.
I got to use Avid while in college and during an internship at Montana PBS, and I loved it. I have to use Velocity ESX at work, and while it gets the job done, it leaves a lot to be desired.
Wait........ did you just say JIF??????
OMG! What shall we do?
SquidPlays Take that nasty peanut butter away from him ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
The creator himself of this format called it "jif"...
My friends, that's the correct pronunce.
+Woo Yay G is one letter from the word graphic. It's not GrIF it's gif and there are many ways you can pronounce a G so it's not wrong to pronounce it as jif. Sounds better too.
Oh man, I heard that too... And sounds awful.
More about the splicing. You can't see the splices on professional films. They made edit lists and perhaps cut the negatives and made positives. Would like to see a little more detail on that. I've made some Super 8 films and the splices, while clear, tend to attract dust and dirt, and sometimes don't go smoothly through the projector. So I'm curious how the pros did it.
Cool quick history of moving pics. Thanks. In 1987 in Santa Barbara CA I produced a network TV series on 1 inch and 3/4 inch videotape which could only be edited a few generations down. VHS 1/2 inch tape can only be edited about 3 generations down before it is all washed out (a copy from the original is one generation, then a copy from that copy is the second generation etc). BUT, in 1987 the studio switched to digital editing and then we could edit an unlimited number of generations and never loose any quality since it was all digital. The copies came out as good as the original. Awesome technology that allowed editors to now do things that were impossible before (massive multiple layered effects etc).
SuperSaf TV sent me here, and I am not disappointed. GREAT VIDEO!
If you're interested in the history of filmography. You've got to watch the film "Hugo". The Lumiere brothers is mentioned and George Melies is a striking plot protagonist.
I think this video could have added the significance of things such as Apple, modems, internet, all the way to youtube to show how the video industry really exploded. The series of products and factors are what made video editing such a crucial tool nowadays.
I like your presentation of film and video works because your show is very comprehensive enough to give me an interest in sight and sound.
I've been waiting for this. Thanks, Linus
This was fun to watch only because when I started editing videos I used multiple vcr's and my Panasonic A/V mixer.
Who thinks Linus should do a retro gaming PC and by retro i mean Pentium 3 and voodoo SLI or something like it
I remember my dad telling me that a voodoo was great and could run quake or some game like that
+bassblaster505 Gaming With a duel Pentium 3 CPU motherboard with two Pentium 3s
Great topic, great video!
Can you do a video on how graphics (like titles, names etc.) were added back in the old days on the films?
+Because I'm Batman! Overlays. Quite literally. Hence the term like cutting used to mean literally cutting the clip. I bet it was fun being an editor back then. Screw it up and bye bye original negative! Back to the soundstage!
Who edited this, 'expensively' totally is a word, don't ever doubt Linus ;)
I would absolutely love a segment on old school media broadcasting. :)
Videos on Christmas? What a nice present
Damn, we've come such a long way
The Taran editing is gold on this video
The amount of space required to harbor "cutting room floors" must have gotten quite out of hand. I love hearing how quickly mankind finds "innovative solutions" to problems that resonate in inconvenience.
did you just say jif
+NIKHIL PANDEY - HOW TO & GFX
Starring:
Jay
Paul
Linus
Kyle
Also Starring:
Gif guy
Gif woman
Jif guy
Jif woman
Judge
Innocent Boy 1
Innocent Boy 2
Innocent Girl 1
Innocent Girl 2
Pilot
Captain
+NIKHIL PANDEY - HOW TO & GFX xDDD
spelt GIF meant to be pronounced JIF... He said it right
+Blair Burton (0rgoner) how ever a very large majority of people say GIF (Hard G) so there for it would be hard G sound considering that. also it stands for Graphics interchange Format so why would it be Jif?
+Dave Chai HE SAID YIFF
You should have mentioned the Video Toaster and also made mention of 3/4" tape, Beta Cam and a few other tape formats.
Well he did use a shot of V2000.
Linus is the Bill Nye of technology.
Video FX as fast as possible
crazy how we take these things for granted
Dude, you forget the Video Toaster! No really, that's what really launched the affordable video editing revolution.
Actually, there was a way of saving live-broadcast TV shows for later use. If you were alive and aware in the early/mid 1950's and had a TV set and watched it. You would sometimes hear, at the end of a program "This has been a Kinescope recording". This was used to save and rebroadcast live shows in a different timezone. Nowadays, if you want to buy some of the classic TV shows like SPACE PATROL or TOM CORBETT: SPACE CADET that were broadcast live, you can, These shows were Kinescoped and saved and then some smart enterpeneur, like "Cadet" Bruce David (Swapsale) put them on VHS cand sells them. These shows are making their way to digital media as well. We owe all of this to Kinescope
This was done by training a film camera on a video monitor that was receiving a feed from the video cameras and recording. RUclips has shows that were live-broadcast as early as 1948, such as HOWDY DOODY and a roller derby game. SPACE PATROL won several industry awards for choreography and in-camera special effects. It helped that they inheritied a huge stage and 3 video cameras. I am a rock keyboardist going back to the days of the Vox and Farfisa "empires" of the late 1960's, and in 2003, the Star of SP, Ed Kemmer, and I had a discussion about the facts of life of the electic/electronic stage
Linus Media as fast as possible. Seriously, where did these guys come from and why are they so good?
Canadian? Big and long history? No? (Probs not canadian part doe xD)
Welp, they never heard of the Kinescope.
Your videos are so useful unlike Marques and Unbox therapy
Television images WERE recorded be for the advent of video tape. The process was known as "kinescope" about basically it involved aiming a motion picture film camera synchronized to the frame rate of the television image. Of course the end product was "film" not "video" but it did allow later broadcast of the video content. (by aiming a video camera at a motion picture film screen)
AHhh, you beat me to it! I was just about to make that same observation and point out that Kinescope films were used to record live-television back in the fifties, till tape took over. Thumbs up!
All that progress on the path of "on demand" content, and now we back to live broadcasting.
Glad to see real Linus is back
Achievement unlocked: Make a video about the history of video editing without mentioning D. W. Griffith.
Glossed over the CMX era. Incredibly important time
History of fast as possible as fast as possible next?
Taran's going to have a blast doing this one
Nice summation!
wow, the web needs more content like this!
HArd drives don't store data in binary. The smallest recorded unit is a sector. complex signal processing is then used to approximate bits with error correction code. Bit patterned recording is part of what will actually make hard drives go up to 100TB in capacity eventually.
I love how the sponsorship ad is at the end xD
This was high quality as fuck. Great work. Perfect explanations and very informative and covers a wide range of the topic.
Interesting... Thanks linus!!
I WANTED TO KNOW HOW THEY DID IT BETWEEN THE FILM AND COMPUTER ERA, FINALLY! Thanks for explaining :D
Thankfully Linus gives the creator credit for naming his work GIF and pronouncing it properly. Whenever someone says it with a "hard" G, it sounds like they were going to say something longer but then hiccuped halfway through. Choosy moms choose GIF.
I know I'm not the only one who skips through the sponsored ADs on every youtubers channel .. right ?? Lol
Imagine,making RUclips videos using film, the old school. You edit/cut it like back in the very days of movie editing. That must be very challenging!
That Media offline screen will haunt my dreams
Those pronunciations made me die a little Haha, BUT you showed a lot of my favourite old movies journey to the moon was groundbreaking!!!! :D
I just love this video
i have been watching your fast as possible and this was the best video
You said JIF, that's unforgivable.
The movie Star Wars in 1977... Quite an achievement comparing something like Avid 1 became to be in 1989, and then Matrix ten years later.
I looooooooooooooooooooooooooove the edits.
They still haven't done a tech quicky on IPC even though Luke kind of promised it in april
Actually the first "non-linear" editing system was known as the Montage. It had system in which drove 14 VHS machines with identical footage on each VHS tape. The software would select the VHS machine that had the timecode nearest to the timecode wanted for the next edit. It was very cumbersome and costly. The Avid came after that. We had one of the first Avid machines in the country in Boston (Avid is located outside of Boston) as at post house I worked at during the late 80s/early 90s.
Don't forget the EditDroid. Unlike the Montage Lucasfilm and their subsidiary Droid Works used consumer grade Betamax machines. I installed a "loaner" EditDroid at Burbank California post house Rock Solid Productions in the late 1980s. Like other systems attempting to use Betamax, VHS, or tape based systems as random access sources it was a very inelegant and unsatisfactory system. Further these systems were strictly limited to offline editing.
Why the video is not in 4K. Just asking
+Jose Manuel Early viewing. Later RUclips will make the 4k version available. If they uploaded it like that.
+Jose Manuel because you eyes can't see beyond 360P
+Jose Manuel I checked no 4K it only goes to 1080p
+Jose Manuel It doesn't matter, since they don't edit in 4k anyways. They only render in 4k.
Because of RUclips's weird upscaling and rendering thingy.
Muybridge probably isn't the first to animate pictures. Back in ancient China, they have already been drawing "frames" on rotating lanterns powered by rising hot air from the candle inside, called 走马灯 (Literal translation: Walking Horse Landern) in nobilities and royalties' homes for entertainment and decoration.
4min 15 is Ron Bowman at BBC cutting tape, he was my manager at TVC
Question for Techquickie. Obviously cutting the videotape would result a sound edit .7 of a second later than the vision cut, which would be unacceptable, so how did we manage to mix the sound over the edit point all those years ago? We didn’t have erase delay back then either, so how did we also make sure there wasn’t a hole in the sound?
This Is a Very Very Useful Video, Bro! :)
Omg it’s called movie cause it moves
.GIF? you've just opened up Pandora's Box, Linus.
The Avid/1 was not the first in non-linear editing. It was Lucasfilm and their EditDroid in the early 1980s
But Avid was the first *fully-digital* non-linear editing system (which is what he said in the video). EditDroid was still on Laserdiscs.
If you think Premiere has is unreliable, try using Vegas pro.
Many shows were physically cute. I used to edit 2" tape by cutting.
No shows were completely recorded on disks like you suggestb rarher ONLY edot sections were placed on disk (and only in b&w) this was the CMX-600 system (i wirked on that) the result was an 8" floppy that contained the Edit Decision List (EDL)
I worked at the largest post facility in the east coast.
Ask me anything about the quad tape machines
How copies were made at the beginning of last century?
OMG OMFG OMFG YOU JUST DID A TECHQUICKIE ABOUT ASPECT RATIO THE WEEK EARLIER !! THE FUCKING WEEK EARLIER!!! AND YOU HAVE STUFF HERE WITH THE wrong ASPECT RATIO!!!!! WHAT THE GODDAMN DAG-GUM BY GOLLY!!! DanRant done.
history is on video now
*Linus History Tips*
As someone that uses Premier Pro I really felt it when they put the media offline picture in there.
I laughed a little too hard at the Adobe Premiere Pro joke.
Final cut 10 is bae
6:01 "mostly" LOL
Has anyone suggested a video for Nvidia and Radeon? If not then they need to make one like they did for intel and amd.
Yes Please!
SquidPlays Yeah a brief history in nvdia and radeon gpus would be awesome.
***** It would be awesome if he they include "GeForce, Quadro, Tesla and Tegra" for Nvidia and "Radeon, FirePro" and whatever they have in their respective video.
Very good!!
videoblocks,place to be
I laughed so hard when the Premiere error message popped up the first time! Great video!
Cutting your Video with a pair of scissors sounds quite cool.
Hey Linus, do you have any idea how "Films/Video" made Intros, or, Special effects without computers back in those days?
2:18 cameras in 1902
2:21 cameras in 1900
thats a huge improvement
That NLE computer sounds very interresting,well yeah but the resolution and frame rate had to be cut down into halve ,but even then anno 2016,the original frames can be retrieved trough motion interpolation,the original color range can be retrieved trough color blending while the original resolution can be retrieved trough sharpening & HD scaling,so edited films from 1989 should be remastered that way for release on blue ray.
Lord Linus speaks again
May His Words Be A Guidance To All
It's amazing how little we know
0:24 I was struggling at the Eadward part
This is the most meta video ever.
Nice editing on this one, like the effects
I love this video
It's amazing how far we've come with editing/movie making in not much more than 100 years.
We've come a looong way in a short time.