Film Editing | Magpie | Children's TV | 1977

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
  • Thames TV's educational programmes 'Finding out' takes a peek behind the scenes of 'Magpie' In this clip Mick Robertson explains how film shot on location is edited.
    First shown: 13/06/1977
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    archive@fremantlemedia.com
    Quote: VT13973

Комментарии • 171

  • @joshu6394
    @joshu6394 3 года назад +615

    All these can be done with just a few clicks in Adobe Premiere while sipping coffee. Massive respect to the film editors that made the timeless films we're enjoying now.

    • @l21n18
      @l21n18 2 года назад +11

      Imagine those people who hd to make the transition though

    • @gersoneduardojimenezbarret9086
      @gersoneduardojimenezbarret9086 2 года назад +33

      now we have all kind of tools but films are decreasing their quality

    • @maximf.5537
      @maximf.5537 2 года назад +11

      But why is it less interesting, film looks better... Digital always looks cheap to me

    • @Da.Liar-Pig
      @Da.Liar-Pig Год назад +5

      Especially there is no watermark back in the old days of film editing

    • @print-master
      @print-master Год назад

      and it shows its done with a few clicks on adobe premiere

  • @qzcancel
    @qzcancel 4 года назад +537

    I’ll never complain about editing iMovie videos again

  • @ResakuMaatsuda
    @ResakuMaatsuda 3 года назад +252

    It's amazing how they used to edit films back in the 70s.

    • @Keithbarber
      @Keithbarber 3 года назад +6

      And this was cutting edge in the day (and I *DO NOT* mean cutting the edge of the film) - if anybody mistakes that for a silly pun

    • @print-master
      @print-master Год назад

      @@Keithbarber all the way to the mid 90's

    • @nathanventura548
      @nathanventura548 11 месяцев назад

      Well into the 2000s

    • @realmynameshiro
      @realmynameshiro 3 месяца назад +1

      You physically edit yourself, you can touch your media, literally feel it. I bet it is beautiful once you know what you're doing. I love this so much!

  • @LeonithOneil
    @LeonithOneil 4 года назад +172

    Back in the days when we need a whole room to edit videos

    • @blitzen5038
      @blitzen5038 3 года назад +28

      now video editors just work from their beds lol

    • @HistoryandReviews
      @HistoryandReviews Год назад +3

      @@blitzen5038 cell phones or mac minis

    • @realmynameshiro
      @realmynameshiro 3 месяца назад

      You physically edit yourself, you can touch your media, literally feel it. I bet it is beautiful once you know what you're doing. I love this so much!

  • @BBT609
    @BBT609 4 года назад +148

    Now THATS why the director clap board was made!

  • @realmynameshiro
    @realmynameshiro 3 месяца назад +9

    You physically edit yourself, you can touch your media, literally feel it. I bet it is beautiful once you know what you're doing. I love this so much!

  • @EditScribe
    @EditScribe Год назад +13

    This video made me increase in editing passion. Thank god i hope i finally found the origin of ‘editing’

  • @givemethevalium
    @givemethevalium 7 лет назад +111

    Fascinating; actually makes my head throb to see how hard it used to be. Lacing the tape up in that telecine machine looks so complicatedly ridiculous. I wonder what year this sort of thing was finally ditched for cassette tapes?

    • @ChristopherSobieniak
      @ChristopherSobieniak 7 лет назад +8

      Givemethevalium Givemethevalium Some stations kept these going into the 80's.

    • @Gameboy-Unboxings
      @Gameboy-Unboxings Год назад +1

      I said that video editor must have been a genius. He made it look so easy.

    • @nathanventura548
      @nathanventura548 11 месяцев назад +2

      Tape still requires editing too in a process that's very similar.

  • @jaylendavis4840
    @jaylendavis4840 2 года назад +33

    I been wondering how they did this since I was like 15 I watched this whole video with a smile on my face. Dope!

    • @Gameboy-Unboxings
      @Gameboy-Unboxings Год назад

      Yeah, I just decided to look it up because I make videos on here. I'm just a novice but once I started learning how to cut & trim parts of videos, it really made me wonder how they used to do it.

  • @antoniusyoutube
    @antoniusyoutube 19 дней назад

    Thank you for this. It's truly astounding how films were put together all those years and decades ago.

  • @booshkoosh7994
    @booshkoosh7994 7 месяцев назад +4

    That's an art that should never be abandoned. Very insightful indeed. Thank you!

  • @Zygecks
    @Zygecks 3 года назад +43

    and here we are, paying for a premiere pro subscription and editing

    • @blitzen5038
      @blitzen5038 3 года назад +6

      you pay for it !?

    • @ThrowbackGames_
      @ThrowbackGames_ 3 года назад +1

      @@blitzen5038 yes, premiere costs money. It’s way worth it rather than editing like this fucking video, lmao

    • @blitzen5038
      @blitzen5038 3 года назад +2

      @@ThrowbackGames_ have you heard of pirating software? I was joking because Adobe products are expensive and a lot of people pirate them, I don't doubt people use the program lol

    • @ThrowbackGames_
      @ThrowbackGames_ 3 года назад

      @@blitzen5038 I’m not really comfortable with pirating, plus, I have the one where you suits pay a couple hundred dollars so you don’t have to pay every month

    • @yk_zeus
      @yk_zeus 2 года назад

      @@blitzen5038 i also have pirated it🙂

  • @ChristopherSobieniak
    @ChristopherSobieniak 7 лет назад +19

    I still have one of those 16mm tape splicers shown here!

  • @myhmbrand
    @myhmbrand Месяц назад +1

    All respect to these guys🤙🏿

  • @Snugglepaw
    @Snugglepaw 4 года назад +70

    Imagine you mess up, now you have to go back and cut out one or two frames, tape it back up, and run it back the telecine

    • @joehiggs100
      @joehiggs100 4 года назад +15

      Been there, done that and worse. I haven't seen examples of dubbing charts on the internet from the rock n roll dubbing suites they had then. Could be works of art.

    • @AndrewDoom
      @AndrewDoom 4 года назад +22

      And i used to think Final Cut Pro was a pain...we live in very luxurious times

    • @T0ra99
      @T0ra99 3 года назад +6

      @@AndrewDoom No I think it's very justified, with tools getting better expectations of quality also went up, so in a way the challenge factor never changed, only became more accessible.

    • @AndrewDoom
      @AndrewDoom 3 года назад +1

      @@T0ra99 true. That’s a good way of looking at it!

    • @arfansthename
      @arfansthename 2 года назад

      Well, if you're very experienced, that's highly unlikely.

  • @cjkalandek996
    @cjkalandek996 3 года назад +27

    Shooting on film may be better for sure, but no one can disagree that editing digitally is easier.

    • @l21n18
      @l21n18 2 года назад +8

      You can do both

    • @foco5657
      @foco5657 Год назад +1

      even tape editing is easier

  • @onyx050
    @onyx050 4 месяца назад +1

    Much respect to the editors andirectors and everyone involved in film woww

  • @B1PFilms
    @B1PFilms 3 года назад +8

    wow...
    I guess I got it easy...
    I'll never taking video editing for granted ever again.

  • @fraserkatie
    @fraserkatie 7 лет назад +17

    Another interesting clip of how they edit film and sound! Thanks!

  • @ianhand5006
    @ianhand5006 7 лет назад +3

    That brought back some happy childhood memories!

  • @DavidBrocekArt
    @DavidBrocekArt Год назад +2

    It's so funny how he just slapped that ducktape on the tape haha. Love this.

  • @jaflischannel
    @jaflischannel 3 года назад +7

    Fun fact: the editor edited a video of Thames while watching himself edit, probably, idk

  • @jhjhjhjhjhjhify
    @jhjhjhjhjhjhify 2 года назад +7

    Funny how some directors pine for the days where everything was shot on film, and yet no editor ever complains about editing on computers.

  • @singlelit0
    @singlelit0 Год назад +1

    So precise! Great video

  • @janvincentrodriguez257
    @janvincentrodriguez257 3 года назад +9

    imagine editing clips like this just to post in Instragram stories lol

  • @MadameSomnambule
    @MadameSomnambule 3 года назад +12

    So that explains the markings I'd see on old films once in a while. They're for syncing audio.

  • @joehiggs100
    @joehiggs100 4 года назад +7

    Ah,. the good old days! ''The man who cuts the film''.

  • @shawaizobaid591
    @shawaizobaid591 Год назад

    The fact that this video was prolly edited the same way amazes me

  • @Pizzalaser
    @Pizzalaser 3 месяца назад

    I wanna go back and see the analogs! #analog

  • @PlanetImo
    @PlanetImo 2 года назад

    Woweeeee! That was hard work compared to these days!!! I feel so lucky.

  • @realmynameshiro
    @realmynameshiro 3 месяца назад +1

    Omg this looks so amazing and interesting. He was physically cutting the footage, not press C to cut. I love this so much

    • @Alpha8713
      @Alpha8713 22 дня назад

      The sync block is a Pic-Sync. The flatbed is a Steenbeck.

  • @PedroManX
    @PedroManX Год назад

    Amazing.

  • @wayneqjr
    @wayneqjr Год назад

    And here I was using two VCRs one plugged into the other to make my edits back in the early 90s.

  • @321riah_
    @321riah_ Год назад

    thank you ive always wondered this

  • @人生は痛み
    @人生は痛み Год назад

    imagine someone making a fancam with these machines

  • @thanhnamle6725
    @thanhnamle6725 2 года назад +1

    I want to ask the news reporters with 16mm film cameras

  • @JittFrom305
    @JittFrom305 Год назад

    AMAZING

  • @asphaltandtacos
    @asphaltandtacos 10 месяцев назад +1

    I would love to shoot on film, edit in Resolve and print back to film. Titles and transitions would be done in Resolve with effects done in camera.

  • @DD-fs9xt
    @DD-fs9xt Год назад +3

    0:16 who else thought he had a giant nose for a second ☠️

  • @ksteiger
    @ksteiger Год назад +1

    Why do the Brits have such a fascination with the words "bits"? Everything is bits.

    • @ihateducks4500
      @ihateducks4500 11 месяцев назад

      @@thomsboys77 yeah, couldn't they just keep calling it "British America". It just had such a nice ring to it

  • @ranashahbaz4504
    @ranashahbaz4504 5 месяцев назад

    i still used this method for editing

  • @miniroo612
    @miniroo612 8 месяцев назад +1

    This is where the term Directors CUT came from 😂

  • @Noe-ev8ng
    @Noe-ev8ng 4 месяца назад

    I was reading a lightnovel where the main lead regressed on the 80's so I got curious how they edit a movie before digital era 😅😅😅

  • @ManjunathCV
    @ManjunathCV 8 месяцев назад

    Audio and Video till happens today in a digital age and it's still confusing.

  • @alvarohigino
    @alvarohigino 2 года назад +1

    How they put letters in the film? Just writting in the piece of film?!

    • @Mark_TDD
      @Mark_TDD Год назад

      Usually they would print the text onto transparent material (glass or plastic), then film it. After, it would be put into an optical printer, where the video and the text would be printed together onto one piece of film.

  • @accel1231
    @accel1231 Год назад

    This was a PHYSICAL edit from hardware

  • @northernplacecorporation
    @northernplacecorporation Год назад

    The film editor seen here must've taped the film (separate picture and sound rolls of 16mm film) together on both sides.

    • @Alpha8713
      @Alpha8713 22 дня назад

      Magnetic film only gets tape on the base (non-oxide) side; otherwise, you would hear the splices go through the reader. The cuts are also normally made diagnoally (which is why the splicer has both types of blades) on the mag film, for the same reason. Not sure why he used clear tape for the sound splice. Normally, it is white and stickier than the clear tape used for picture.

    • @northernplacecorporation
      @northernplacecorporation 22 дня назад

      @@Alpha8713 Oh... right.

  • @ellis_playz4907
    @ellis_playz4907 2 года назад +1

    Now you can you just get your "hand sized computer" and press a few buttons and have a fully edited video

  • @revemb4653
    @revemb4653 3 года назад

    Giving me some Black ops 1 vibes real hard now

  • @garyhunt8067
    @garyhunt8067 3 года назад

    Interesting this

  • @raitshots
    @raitshots 10 месяцев назад

    👍😎💯🤙

  • @gersoneduardojimenezbarret9086
    @gersoneduardojimenezbarret9086 2 года назад +1

    how is the film already colored?

    • @arfansthename
      @arfansthename 2 года назад +1

      Color film has been around since the 50s. (I'm talking Kodak film, not Technicolor)

    • @gersoneduardojimenezbarret9086
      @gersoneduardojimenezbarret9086 2 года назад

      @@arfansthename I mean.... How do they put colour to the film

  • @NetvoTV
    @NetvoTV 2 года назад

    The film was shaking while he is making it, how is that be any accurate?

  • @ShaanBlog
    @ShaanBlog 4 года назад +1

    Very tough to edit a flim

  • @brett_fitz4569
    @brett_fitz4569 3 года назад +2

    i think i’ll stick to premier pro

  • @zampiangel3871
    @zampiangel3871 Год назад

    Now I use DA VINCI 18

  • @bobcat420
    @bobcat420 3 месяца назад

    Oh that’s what all those numbers are lol

  • @NastiMarvasti
    @NastiMarvasti 2 года назад +2

    A lot less frame fucking (as we editors call it) back in those days. Nowadays, you have to try not to over-tweak your content.

  • @chanderprakash3159
    @chanderprakash3159 3 года назад

    Can Someone Please Tell Me That How At That Time Film Countdown Leaders (Both Head & Tails) Were Prepared & Added To The Film ?

  • @wilddrum78
    @wilddrum78 2 года назад

    Actually the guy sounds like Davy Jones from The Monkees

  • @JandyElijahYT
    @JandyElijahYT 8 месяцев назад

    old machine something idk name to Laptop timeline

  • @johnjackson7045
    @johnjackson7045 3 года назад +1

    when i make films i like to use digital.i use digital in a different way.when i make a film the same m=amount of hardwork they did back then applies to the project im working on.i know because i visited film sets when i was younger and saw how many times they had to take retake choosed different places for the camera the cinematography.all f that took long time for a 2- 3 minute clip.and the same thing applies to my filmaking.i use digital but still have the old values

  • @M_Sonata
    @M_Sonata 5 месяцев назад

    Female narrator sounds like Florence Pugh.

  • @LeatherShoes-ef1pb
    @LeatherShoes-ef1pb 3 месяца назад

    I can see why they don't do this anymore considering the ease of digital editing. That said, this method seems more..."artistic" to me. Like, Quentin Tarantino once said that when you watch movies, you're not watching motion, you're watching an *illusion* of motion created by 24 still pictures per second. So to see all those still images being literally handled and modified by human hands--as opposed to computer code being handled by software and algorithms--it just strikes me as being closer to "art."

  • @bluu6452
    @bluu6452 Год назад

    the lil men behind my screen when i edit

  • @johanexxxx
    @johanexxxx 3 года назад

    Tf is the pilot saying?

  • @codewarrior145
    @codewarrior145 Год назад

    This is the mechanical way to edit videos it's the old before computers.

  • @45asunder1
    @45asunder1 7 лет назад +1

    the bad bits....

  • @Ramysunray
    @Ramysunray 3 года назад

    Me sitting here with my latest or version and complain its not fast enough f@#k me ,

  • @davutsakalli
    @davutsakalli 2 года назад

    He should have used hand gloves.

  • @aliabbass8049
    @aliabbass8049 Год назад

    Who’s here in 2023 watching this because of Oppenheimer

  • @adarshpk59
    @adarshpk59 3 месяца назад

    Ctr + Z 🤔

  • @EddyGameVlogBoy
    @EddyGameVlogBoy 2 года назад +7

    To be honest, editing back then looked a lot more fun to do. Nowadays, it's just too easy and boring.

  • @pnnytx
    @pnnytx 3 года назад +5

    Unlike Premiere, this is way more stable.

  • @filmsforallnations
    @filmsforallnations 3 года назад +13

    I used to love Magpie, when I was a child. Magpie was ITV's answer to Blue Peter. Both shows were amazing and educational to young audiences. Editing a television programmes used to be so intricate (unlike today on digital computers).

  • @Stalking-jw6ip
    @Stalking-jw6ip 3 года назад +4

    And here i'm editing videos on my phone in rhe comfort of my couch

  • @kyizarthin9522
    @kyizarthin9522 Год назад +2

    2:35 This is so manual of cut and trim😅

  • @GreatGizmo74
    @GreatGizmo74 Год назад +26

    As someone that was born in 2008, I really want to do this. Just analogue editing seems really cool to me, all the really cool techonogly and you had hole rooms and teams to produces a pieces of media. Now some twat in their bedroom can just made a video on a device about as small as a pocket book. I just wish there is somewhere in the UK that still has all this old equipment and still editing like this day.

    • @BodoqueHavelange6483
      @BodoqueHavelange6483 10 месяцев назад

      Hey you poser kid you don't know what are you saying. You couldn't survive one mouth in a analog world

  • @andyvan5692
    @andyvan5692 2 года назад +4

    wow, that interlude brought me back to my teens, as in Australia, all the abc (Australian broadcasting commission) programs, esp. the british content had this, and I am now 41! beautiful program, as no one holds film anymore, it's all digital magnetic signals, so what a refreshing experience.

  • @nokrimchimarak1246
    @nokrimchimarak1246 4 года назад +3

    thats some complicated editing software

  • @torpedoboy4
    @torpedoboy4 3 года назад +1

    This guy sounds like Al Stewart “Time Passages”

  • @parsaakbari2381
    @parsaakbari2381 8 месяцев назад

    Not informative! But voice of the narrator was rather lovely!

  • @josaicmosaic
    @josaicmosaic 7 месяцев назад

    its just really weird to think that people used to just cut film and drew on it with pencils

  • @thelegendRohulAmin
    @thelegendRohulAmin Год назад

    I came here when I learnt that microprocessors were invented in 1971. My question was: How did they made films before 1971? (I know invention of microprocessor is not for film)

  • @arfansthename
    @arfansthename 2 года назад

    A telecine may look and sound sophisticated, but in reality it's just a television camera facing the lens of a run-of-the-mill film projector.

  • @gamer-yc6zd
    @gamer-yc6zd 2 года назад

    my first video editing was restoring vhs tapes and converting old vhs to dvd

  • @realDannyBoi111
    @realDannyBoi111 Год назад

    Very Informational

  • @alibehrouzi761
    @alibehrouzi761 3 года назад

    That was interesting

  • @nomad4k
    @nomad4k 2 года назад +2

    Wow. The amount of work it took them.. I open up my FCPX, drag my media in there and boom 💥!!! Infinite possibilities right there on my computer.