@@fishstks9677I mean yasuo hasn't been nearly as aids to play against as he used to be. I'm pretty cool with him as he stands, there are MANY more 300 years champs that we gotta watch for now...
Nasus is also one that super relies on sheen. Early game he can proc it off cd when ulting and his armor shred makes it more efficient. But the true reason why nasus needs sheen is because earlygame when his stacks are still 150-250 he struggles to deal enough damage and heal enough without sheen. So if sheen was removed nasus would probably lose 1v1s way way way more
@@Jiroscopio_ yes at 20 minutes maybe, before that sheen is basically a 40-25% dmg boost. With trinity its even more because the dmg is doubled so lets bump that up to 30 minutes. No item can replace trinity because even if you get one extra tank item you will still be more squishy due to lack of lifesteal and difficulty killing enemies
she can build either ad or ap and some times even tank so i dont think removing one item would affect her that much unless riot removed every item she uses
Idk about the rest but among champions I play Anivia and Zyra stand out the most. Anivia is lowkey impossible to play without Archangel's scepter, her ult costs an absurd amount of 45 mana per second. Zyra simply deals no damage without liyandri.
@bltelysian I think she is one of the best mages to otp in game, she has nice burst, nice dps, best mage in terms of area control. Lack of mobility is normal when it comes to mages I guess, she is very squishy, it probably has to be that way due to her passive but she still feels pretty safe to me. I usually buy tear at the start, idk if you have tried that and I stopped building RoA in most games and went for black fire torch because it takes awfully long for her to scale anyway. With most mages I can feel significant powerspike on first item but with Anivia I need 3 like an ADC. Also the thing I haye about RoA is that it also takes long to scale so you either rush it or never buy it. Might be better if they make some other passive instead of level gain and just reduce time it needs to stack.
A lot of auto attack based champs would be devasted if berserkers greaves were to be removed. They are such a good power spike for master yi, yasuo, yone etc. and before lethal tempo was removed, paired berserkers, these champs insane attack speed equivalent to an item.
That's probably they cannot balance lt if they just add some mechanic about extra as from other items so berserks couldn''t give you so much in early game but would probably strong as new boots now.
Ez+Smolder with their Q work with sheen too good. Don''t forget that almost every adc depend on IE for extra crit dmg. Vein and guinso also kog bc they have strong on-hit effect and they need to hit as fast as they can but after lt was removed they can only get more than 2.5 as with this item.
From what I try for quite a while, Ezreal without sheen, especially tri force has severely damage drop. I still can't find any other way to solve this problem, if you know, pls tell.
Unironically, the removal of rabadon might bring more characters tò build magic resistance instead of decreasing It, and then void staff or cryptobloom would be mandatory tò counter that even more
Two significant nerfs would be the removal of Liandrys for brand bc he already has burn in his kit and this just increases it. And shoes (which are special items i know) but the swiftys for jhin just bc he needs ms haha and berserkers Shoes even more after removal of lethal tempo on adcs or expecially for the inting brothers bc of their Q.
Blackfire torch / Liandrys torment reliant: Brand, Malzahar, Zyra, Heimerdinger, Lillia, Swain, Asol. Maybe Morgana, Anivia, Velkoz and others I'm forgetting Those champs have absurd synergy with burn items, so their power budget needs to be compensated elsewhere. I think it is dumb that 1 dmg can proc a burn that deals 300
Can you do a video on Jack of all Trades? At 10 stacks is gives 25 Adaptive force + 10 haste = over 1000gold value At the moment i see 2 Interesting builds/champs using it: 1. Dblade->ROA -> Flickerblade Volibear 2. Dblade(3)->Stridebreaker(1)->Frozen Heart(3)+ Mercs(3) Nocturne The fastest Way to get it would be rush Dblade(3) + Glacial Buckler(3) + Mercs(3) + 1 More stat, either Dagger or Reejuv Beed are cheapest This build would require a champ who can start dblade doesnt need to rush a specific first item to function and can build tank. So mabye nasus would work well with this, he used to rush frozen heart in the past, he could build Triforce after
For Nasus, it will be D Ring (2) (Dblade on Nasus is trolling) + Mercs (3) + Trinity Force (3). Then, one 300 item armor will be enough. That's basically a standard Nasus build. Edit: Or you can also delay Trinity for D ring (2) + Sheen (1) + Hearthbound (2) + Mercs (3) + cloth armor and mana crystal (2). That also works, I guess.
Nobody is safe since Riot removed Gunblade, ruining Akali and Katarina but Kata at least got some recompensation while Akali was left dead for very long time
Ryze kinda needs archangels to be an ap champion. It gives him self looping mana to ap conversion that not only gives giant amounts of ap/mana as the game goes on for itself (supplying 200-300 ap on its own) but also makes Deathcap and Blackfire even stronger items due to the looping. Also because of his giant mana pool it gives him about 1000ish extra hp in shielding. (Its last disappearance was a pretty significant factor in ryze being dead for a few years alongside roa and the rune changes.
And that's literally what they've done. I mean, they killed essence reaver by removing sheen effect and now, GP and Ezreal are dead. Trinity is not an option for me, sry
@@nimrodszocs2795 You are completely wrong. AD Shaco can build on-hit but he just doesn't because crit and lethality have better synergy and it's what most players are use to. The issue with his assassin build is that you don't do damage until you're supremely fed (10-15+ kills). Botrk alone gives you enough damage output to not worry about damage. Then you can opt into tank items. On-hit build makes the most use of his passive as you survive long enough to get plenty of Backstabs.
Id put ezreal here because champ is literally meta depending on whether or not he has/his items are broken, for example hes complete dogshit now since they removed essence reaver passive
Maybe Swain and Mordekaiser would suffer a lot without Rylai's, the lack of mobility they have is payed out by the slow of this item and if it were to get removed, there is a 95% chance enemies just kite them while they struggle to get close to them cuz the lack of slows.
Игры
Yasuo will be dead without the mastery emote
And now it's gone
gg
So… we won? He’s gone? LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO!!!!!
@@fishstks9677I mean yasuo hasn't been nearly as aids to play against as he used to be.
I'm pretty cool with him as he stands, there are MANY more 300 years champs that we gotta watch for now...
He is already nerfed with the new mastery look)
Funnily enough, BORK on Irelia wasn't that popular before the item rework. Her core was Trinity into Titanic/Sterak's
Nah irelia was already buying bork first item when bork was buffed to 12% max heath damage on melee champions
Yeah but trinity back then gave like 1k more value than current trinity. Also sterak used to amplify its damage because it gave bonus base AD
Draven + Zeal
Draven + mobi boots and 5 zeals
you forgot 1 tear of goddess
"If BORK was removed, then Irelia would be severely nerfed" Oh no... anyway
Good riddance
I'm sure if you remove chat, Draven players would become useless
nah, just everyone in general
Veigar Rabadon 💀
Nasus is also one that super relies on sheen. Early game he can proc it off cd when ulting and his armor shred makes it more efficient. But the true reason why nasus needs sheen is because earlygame when his stacks are still 150-250 he struggles to deal enough damage and heal enough without sheen. So if sheen was removed nasus would probably lose 1v1s way way way more
Also, nasus don't have any AD scaling, making sheen his only source of scaling from an usual build.
So does Ezreal...
Its worse. Without sheen Nasus can't stai in line securely bcs can't heal enough from minions with his passive.
Nasus can do well without sheen though, at some point his stacks provide much more than Sheen does. Definitely a great item but not 100% needed
@@Jiroscopio_ yes at 20 minutes maybe, before that sheen is basically a 40-25% dmg boost. With trinity its even more because the dmg is doubled so lets bump that up to 30 minutes. No item can replace trinity because even if you get one extra tank item you will still be more squishy due to lack of lifesteal and difficulty killing enemies
Y'all forgot how ezreal winrate went to 45 percent when essence reaver sheen got removed
What about Katarina?? The champ where item dmg is more than her own kit.
she can build either ad or ap and some times even tank so i dont think removing one item would affect her that much unless riot removed every item she uses
Yes but to make her suffer from item loss you'd have to remove all items from the game as everything is viable on her xD
@@nightcorechords5705 Yeap, that's what I'd think the actual outcome should be as per title. But dang, its actually talking about ITEM SPIKES.
Idk about the rest but among champions I play Anivia and Zyra stand out the most. Anivia is lowkey impossible to play without Archangel's scepter, her ult costs an absurd amount of 45 mana per second. Zyra simply deals no damage without liyandri.
Zyra is one of the most easiest and most annoying champs to play against alongside brand
@bltelysian I think she is one of the best mages to otp in game, she has nice burst, nice dps, best mage in terms of area control. Lack of mobility is normal when it comes to mages I guess, she is very squishy, it probably has to be that way due to her passive but she still feels pretty safe to me. I usually buy tear at the start, idk if you have tried that and I stopped building RoA in most games and went for black fire torch because it takes awfully long for her to scale anyway. With most mages I can feel significant powerspike on first item but with Anivia I need 3 like an ADC. Also the thing I haye about RoA is that it also takes long to scale so you either rush it or never buy it. Might be better if they make some other passive instead of level gain and just reduce time it needs to stack.
Kassadin and any tear item bc his ult cost much much more after 2 casts.
Yone and Yasuo are extremely reliant on Infinity edge
There were lots of more tank and on hit oriented builds on especially yone that didn't build crit until maybe the 4th item
Not really, idk about Yasuo but Yone is totally fine without IE
I still remember the pd triforce mallet yasuo build. But i think both will be fine without IE, most traditional adc are damage if IE will be remove
You forgot archangels staff and ryze
Nasus without Devine- oh wait
That's sad
A lot of auto attack based champs would be devasted if berserkers greaves were to be removed. They are such a good power spike for master yi, yasuo, yone etc. and before lethal tempo was removed, paired berserkers, these champs insane attack speed equivalent to an item.
That's probably they cannot balance lt if they just add some mechanic about extra as from other items so berserks couldn''t give you so much in early game but would probably strong as new boots now.
Ez+Smolder with their Q work with sheen too good. Don''t forget that almost every adc depend on IE for extra crit dmg. Vein and guinso also kog bc they have strong on-hit effect and they need to hit as fast as they can but after lt was removed they can only get more than 2.5 as with this item.
From what I try for quite a while, Ezreal without sheen, especially tri force has severely damage drop.
I still can't find any other way to solve this problem, if you know, pls tell.
Irelia botrk= full build
Literally 90% of mages would be unplayable without rabadon
nah when u get too mid/high elo some mages don t eaven buy it
Definitely not in S14, plenty of other options
Unironically, the removal of rabadon might bring more characters tò build magic resistance instead of decreasing It, and then void staff or cryptobloom would be mandatory tò counter that even more
@simoneonofri3440 how does rabadon make people not want to buy magic resist?
Not if you managed to end the game before 25 mins
Good video! then Which champions can still function without Items? (Low economy champions)
That's a great idea for a video ! Thank you
Basically every support haha
Riven would suck without Conqueror. Look at her rune pages. Theres literally only 2 conqueror pages
Sheen also is almost a core to nasus or poppy, since sunderer removal poppy doesn't build it aways tho, no mr variation of it...
Can add Ezreal to Sheen
Nah Ezreal can build crit ap and lethality
Two significant nerfs would be the removal of Liandrys for brand bc he already has burn in his kit and this just increases it. And shoes (which are special items i know) but the swiftys for jhin just bc he needs ms haha and berserkers Shoes even more after removal of lethal tempo on adcs or expecially for the inting brothers bc of their Q.
If Blade of Ruined King is no more, so is The King😢
Moonstone soraka
Trundle without Hydra 💀
Jungle Trundle doesn't need Hydra.
But yeah Top Trundle does need it
Singed. Liandry. Or maybe rylai.
Riot will balance champions to compensate
fun fact is that the champion which have the best synergy with the trinity is gnar, but no one builds it on him
Removing thornmail would really make all tanks inexistent, it wouldn't just affect Rammus
Not at all, sunfire is built on literally every tank if they don’t need anti heal, or hollow radiance for ap….
@@nimrodszocs2795 without anti heal, ALL tanks would lose to champs with lifesteal items.
Blackfire torch / Liandrys torment reliant:
Brand, Malzahar, Zyra, Heimerdinger, Lillia, Swain, Asol.
Maybe Morgana, Anivia, Velkoz and others I'm forgetting
Those champs have absurd synergy with burn items, so their power budget needs to be compensated elsewhere.
I think it is dumb that 1 dmg can proc a burn that deals 300
Singed
Do the passive of velkoz stays with liandry ? Is that th3 synergy u're talking about ?
@@blablou7196 no he just means the 2 items, regardless of champions
Teemo
Can you do a video on Jack of all Trades? At 10 stacks is gives 25 Adaptive force + 10 haste = over 1000gold value
At the moment i see 2 Interesting builds/champs using it:
1. Dblade->ROA -> Flickerblade Volibear
2. Dblade(3)->Stridebreaker(1)->Frozen Heart(3)+ Mercs(3) Nocturne
The fastest Way to get it would be rush Dblade(3) + Glacial Buckler(3) + Mercs(3) + 1 More stat, either Dagger or Reejuv Beed are cheapest
This build would require a champ who can start dblade doesnt need to rush a specific first item to function and can build tank. So mabye nasus would work well with this, he used to rush frozen heart in the past, he could build Triforce after
For Nasus, it will be D Ring (2) (Dblade on Nasus is trolling) + Mercs (3) + Trinity Force (3). Then, one 300 item armor will be enough. That's basically a standard Nasus build.
Edit: Or you can also delay Trinity for D ring (2) + Sheen (1) + Hearthbound (2) + Mercs (3) + cloth armor and mana crystal (2). That also works, I guess.
What is Dblade? I play league on other language
@@kuala3840 D blade: Doran's Blade
D shield: Doran's Shield
You get the idea
@@mypersonalaccount4934 Ah, thanks
its only 1025g value of stats if you believe riot’s new idea that 5 haste is worth 250g LOL
if bork was removed most on hit champs will suffer
Sett without stridebreaker
Irelia when she needs to wait 1,5 second to oneshot caster with sheen😤
i agree with everything mr. havoc
If rylai get removed, aurelion sol will be worse than his pre rework
Mundo heartsteel?
Gangplank and essence reaver...
JAXXXXX - Sheen
Irelia really is just a bork delivery system
Fiora wouldn’t be able to crash a wave without ravenous
Any tiamat item is good for her in dif situations
Any marksmen and infinity edge
Yas/Yone without Zerkers
Yasuo and Yone with crit items (IE especially) and Botrk
Tear of goddess with high mana usage champs
U got one wrong, gp doesn't need sheen, he can totally go crit and still 1hit people
GP without Sheen doesn't 1hit anyone 💀
no Ezreal or Nasus mentioned in sheen category? 0/10
Nasus is definitely the Sheen paragon
So many champs relies on specific items yet they made this vid rip
Brand liandry's
This is how i feel about Vayne and Statikk Shiv
Veigar and deathcap
Old Sion with Prowler's Claw
babus
Old Sion with 10+ deaths 💀
Jinx and the kraken slayer
Yea it was the galeforce not super old item but it was the default atleast for my jhin
I think Wukong is another sheen abuser
Nobody is safe since Riot removed Gunblade, ruining Akali and Katarina but Kata at least got some recompensation while Akali was left dead for very long time
I miss the old akali. Had my first penta on her. My first multi kill (3 or 4) was with tryndamere innold twisted treelinr. All hail green buff
well at least akali is the most tankiest assassin to compesate it
@@olarpower3815 true, but I don't like it :q I would 100% prefer her to be squishy and have better burst like normal assassin should
God I miss gunblade and the old akali
toplaner moment
Ryze kinda needs archangels to be an ap champion. It gives him self looping mana to ap conversion that not only gives giant amounts of ap/mana as the game goes on for itself (supplying 200-300 ap on its own) but also makes Deathcap and Blackfire even stronger items due to the looping.
Also because of his giant mana pool it gives him about 1000ish extra hp in shielding. (Its last disappearance was a pretty significant factor in ryze being dead for a few years alongside roa and the rune changes.
Nasus and Sheen lol
And that's literally what they've done. I mean, they killed essence reaver by removing sheen effect and now, GP and Ezreal are dead. Trinity is not an option for me, sry
Essence reaver was way too overhyped on Ezreal ngl
Sheen is also Ezreal bread.
Runaans on kalista.
Nah, Kalista is more popular with her lethality build these days
Rip to nasus
Fiora without tiamat...
Asol without Rylai is not a character
Ezreal and sheen too
RYZE AND ARCHANGELS??
True, I could have included that
Really ? Camille ? Not Ezreal , not Nasus, not GP, but Camille ?
Did you not watch the full video ? I did talk about GP💀and I believe they are more dependent on Sheen than Ezreal and Nasus
Botrk is the only thing keeping AD Shaco alive at this point. That and Tiamat.
I dknt think it is, ad shaco doesn’t build on hit, he doesnt have atk speed, he builds crit, ad and lethality maybe but not much else
@@nimrodszocs2795 You are completely wrong. AD Shaco can build on-hit but he just doesn't because crit and lethality have better synergy and it's what most players are use to. The issue with his assassin build is that you don't do damage until you're supremely fed (10-15+ kills). Botrk alone gives you enough damage output to not worry about damage. Then you can opt into tank items. On-hit build makes the most use of his passive as you survive long enough to get plenty of Backstabs.
Nasus Sheen, Yorick and sheen, Jax ans sheen
I lnew gp and sheen would be here
rip essence reaver for gp
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Id put ezreal here because champ is literally meta depending on whether or not he has/his items are broken, for example hes complete dogshit now since they removed essence reaver passive
Blue Kayn Q with Profane Hydra, ah right Riot removed it..
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Mundo and heartsteel
Bork is so versatile that it would hurt a lot of champions not just Irelia
cuz it's the only AD item with %max health damage
Eclipse does deal %max health damage
Singed and rylai
Mord & Rylai Urgot & Hullbreaker
Urgot doesn't build Hullbreaker every single game
Actually Irelia’s core item is Vamp Septre.
True
Bro gave us every reason to remove botrk out of irelia xddd
Pls no I am an Irelia player 😭
Viego and kraken/bork
Viego would still work, even as a tank he could be useful.
Maybe Swain and Mordekaiser would suffer a lot without Rylai's, the lack of mobility they have is payed out by the slow of this item and if it were to get removed, there is a 95% chance enemies just kite them while they struggle to get close to them cuz the lack of slows.
katarina and nashors tooth
Katarina can build so many items
@@lolhavoc that's true but ap katarina is so dependent on nashors tooth
Cool video idea but not everything you said is a fact. Arguable points at best
True
"Skill expression" Why do I have a feeling an AI wrote all this? 🤔
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Now gp doesnt even need sheen item lmfao, what an ass champion
I was surprised about Irelia being metioned with BotrK when Master Yi builds it since forever.
Master Yi could still go Guinsoo or Kraken slayer and be fine.
@@arminarlelt7471 I rather say first one in bulid since forever like 2013 when it was lamp that give you that effect after stacking it.
Crit champions without Infinity Edge and AP champions without Rabadon
ok now remove IE and see what happens
Half of adcs would die at spot
OK 👍
ok
Mundo and warmog’s armor and/or spirit visage
Warwick without tiamat just farms too slow
Unless you play Warwick top 👍
Mundo needs heartsteel to be useful at all
His Q have current % hp dmg he would be useful even without any item